Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Height & Proportions => Topic started by: coppkillr on August 30, 2014, 10:26:41 PM
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Hello.
I am struggling if I should do tibia or femur lengthing.
I am 177cm tall. My femur to tibia ratio is 81.3%
Femur: 46cm
Tibia 37,6cm
wingspan 178cm
I would like to do only 5 cm as I think more is to risky and will destroy my proportions.
I wanted to go for femur as it is faster consolidating and less risky.
I have created mockups:
Original
http://image-upload.de/image/3fFIRq/940232ac5e.jpg
Femur 5cm
http://image-upload.de/image/goJV65/d597fddb3d.jpg
Tibia 5cm
http://image-upload.de/image/ruxdIa/3b8a4d879b.jpg
What do you guys think?
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another 5'10, those short guys must be mad now, btw do tibia, are u 177cm at your lowest?
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I think your femur image looks better, but when doing 5 cm, tibias is way cheaper and the risks arent significantly higher. either could work.
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You look like a tibia patient to me. They're kind of short in proportion to the rest of your body. And that slight bowing could be fixed also in the process.
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Why do you think my tibias are short? As far as I have googled .8 is the avarage femur/tibia ratio. Thus my tibia are little shorter than my femurs.
I want to go with internal nails. Also I am afraid of the scars. Thus I tend to do internal femur with e.g Betz.
I read that tibia with internal nails is risky and thus they recommend external methods with tibia. But there I will get lots of scars and have the risk of infections right?
Next problem I have is that I can only stay 6 monts away from my job.
I appreciate your input!
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Why do most prefer here tibia? In the old forum only femur seems to be done by the patients.
Can Someone Help me with descission.
Tibia seems to be only bc of money the right choise.
But Perhaps also bc of proportions? If I Do femur i would have 0.73 ratio. I not sure if this would look way off.
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Why do most prefer here tibia? In the old forum only femur seems to be done by the patients.
Can Someone Help me with descission.
Tibia seems to be only bc of money the right choise.
But Perhaps also bc of proportions? If I Do femur i would have 0.73 ratio. I not sure if this would look way off.
because they're externals, which if I remember correct avoids knee pain, because of budget is a huge reason also and because well tibs are normally shorter so doing them will have a better aesthetic view
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What are you suggesting?
Money is no problem for me.
With externals I am scared about risk and scars.
Femur I am little worried about proportions.
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Not sure really. Depends on what kind of walking stance you would like. You would have longer strides if you did your femurs. But either way, you won't be out of proportion
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Look at the femurs on male supermodel Andres Velencoso:
(http://www.mostbeautifulman.com/misc/andresvelencoso/images/pic09.jpg)
He is 6'4 or 193CM. This is a look I wouldn't mind having.
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I cannot say if he has long femur or tibia.
What do you think about 0.73 ratio?
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0.73 isn't that bad I don't think
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So you would also go for femur?
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His femurs are obviously much longer than his torso, but he doesn't look bad.
(http://www.mostbeautifulman.com/misc/andresvelencoso/images/pic09.jpg)
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http://www.mostbeautifulman.com/misc/andresvelencoso/images/pic09.jpg (http://www.mostbeautifulman.com/misc/andresvelencoso/images/pic09.jpg)
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In some of those photos it looks pretty bad to have such long femurs imo (like the one where he is sitting down), in others it looks good.
I guess since this guy is a model and have such good all around looks (no homo) and is fit, it doesnt really matter that his femurs are so long, but i have no doubt it would look a bit better if he had a slightly longer torso and a more balanced femur/tibia ratio.
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I say... wow. Andres Velosco either had LL, or he has a really short torso for a 6'4" guy. Well, the thing is people don't care about his proportions, they just know that he is very tall
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I say... wow. Andres Velosco either had LL, or he has a really short torso for a 6'4" guy. Well, the thing is people don't care about his proportions, they just know that he is very tall
Exactly. You nailed it. And he still makes millions each year as one of the world's top male models, in no small part due to his tallness.
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Exactly. You nailed it. And he still makes millions each year as one of the world's top male models, in no small part due to his tallness.
look at alexander ferrario's tibias :o
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It seems he has average 0.8 ratio.
I still would like to know if 0.73 ratio will be visible to others. I don't want anybody to know my lentghing.
I am afraid to be unhappier than before bc of unproportions
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I am still unsure what to do. Is there someone with 0.73 ratio or less. Does it look freaky? Do you think I can walk after 4 months without noticing that I did surgery?
I would go for 4-5 cm. It would be better with internal I think.
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There is very little difference between a .8 ratio and a .73 ratio, so don't worry about looking freaky. My ratio is 1 and I look fine.
You probably won't be walking completely normally after just 4 months no matter what type of surgery you get.
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So you would go for internal femur?
How long does it take to recover with 5cm?
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What would be the right choice. IT is so hard to decide.
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It looks great either way mate and I mean that (no homo eh?). Actually think longer legs would be nice, give off a sort of powerful impression and makes you appear more slim. Nothing too excessive though.
5 cm seems perfect maybe even 4 cm X 2 would look good. You're already taller than most on here so your proportions can take a little extra change before looking weird.
Remember to mind your arm lenght, don't wanna appear the T -rex.
Good luck.
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Thx for your words. My armlenght is only 178. But i am also quite slim. So no brought shoulders.
Would you go for femurs with betz?
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So What to do now? Precise 2 in USA? I live in germany so Betz would be easier for me. I am So afraid He leaves me crippled. Damn decision. A year ago He had the best nail. Whats wrong with this betznail? Does He not improve it?
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Don't know that much about different doctors, techniques or procedures but would you really sacrifice even a little bit of safety just because it's more comfortable not to go abroad, or more expensive. I would pay double and go to North Korea if it meant less risk or a better chance at full recovery nothing is more important to me and if you think about it I'm sure you feel the same way.
If you end up not being able to run for more than 15 minutes for the rest of your life just because you wanted to save money or get it done quicker you will hate yourself I guarantee it.
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Sure. The Point is that betz is one of the Most expensive doctors.
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Hi,
Dr. Betz is indeed not to be recommended. He has a high complication rate and is not trustworthy. He is always lying. German law also has no real patient protection.
Did you talk with Guichet? He seems to be more trustworthy.
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Gichuit requires this damn test.
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Gichuit requires this damn test.
Man, if you are serious about LL this should not be a problem. I am living in a world of regret that i went to Betz and got completely fked up. What's this flexibility test in comparison? Actually it shows Guichet is more serious. Or do you think those Photoshop mock-ups from Daniela have any real value other than selling you a dream?
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Did you Do femur or tibia? What problems you have?
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Man, if you are serious about LL this should not be a problem. I am living in a world of regret that i went to Betz and got completely f**ked up. What's this flexibility test in comparison? Actually it shows Guichet is more serious. Or do you think those Photoshop mock-ups from Daniela have any real value other than selling you a dream?
How are you fu**ed Mime and was it Betz fault or just bad luck?
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I won't give any personal details because of litigation.
Only so much: i still cannot walk unaided, i cannot go out alone, i have strong pain at every step and i cannot work. This is all due to Dr. Betz. He is a great 'risk taker' i.e. he is always willing to risk his patient's life and health.
It is hard to imagine a worse doctor.
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Why did it happen. How much did u lenghten?
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Too much hasle, if you think your Tibias look stumpy just go for them, if you have money then go for internal femurs, otherwise stick with external tibias
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if mime is going through litigation its best not to ask him questions until its over.
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Why are there no betz patients any more. I would like to Know how the betznail is. There are only diaries of albizzia nail. Damn i have to decide if i go now with him . I saved the money. And now everything is uncertain as here all ppl are warning about the betznail
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coppkilr. go visit the doctors on your consideration (guichet, betz, etc ) and see which one you feel most comfortable with. that will help your decision. gd luck
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if mime is going through litigation its best not to ask him questions until its over.
Why because Betz knows exactly who "mime" is? Seriously....
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if mime mentions specifics it would probably be easy to find out who he is.
hell if your not to careful you could track down someone and visit them at their house without them even giving you any information at all. (this happened to the original old forum apparently)
my point is you have no idea how easy it is to track who a person is. better safe than sorry.
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I had consultation with betz. He seemed to be the right one. Now i am struggling. I canceled my op appointment.
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Fitbone = iPhone 6 Plus
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He does Not use Fitbone. He is using the betz nail.
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Yes, the infamous Betzbone, sry my bad!
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Why do you think this. No Patient does reply here that something is wrong with betznail. There is only one guy telling that he has problems. But we do Not Know why and What happened.
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I personally never considered Betz so I don't really care about his nail. I've been regulary hearing for months and from different persons that the Betznail tends to bend a lot so unless they are all lying in some sort of conspiracy, there might be some truth to it that's worth investigating.
I prefer solid weight bearing methods so for me it'll be Guichet nail and/or Ilizarov.
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I have talked to someone working with betz. IT sounded all patients are doing well.
Also it was mentioned that there will be a New nail.
I will be provided also with contacts of current patients.
IT seems there is only one guy blaiming Betz and it could be the case it was his own fault.
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I've met people who have gone to betz- they saw many complications and had some themselves. proceed with caution.
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I have talked to someone working with betz. IT sounded all patients are doing well.
Also it was mentioned that there will be a New nail.
I will be provided also with contacts of current patients.
IT seems there is only one guy blaiming Betz and it could be the case it was his own fault.
If the nail is good why does he need a new one?
It's a well known fact that Dr. Guichet tested his nails with sheep first. Dr. Betz uses his patients to test his nails. Do you want to be his sheep?
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Go with dr guichet he is solid, no band releases, hard pt, he know what he is doing ;)
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It is really strange why you have hear so different opinion. The patients mostly stay at the same place. There was in the last Time not one problem regarding the nail.
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coppkillr:
your an interesting fellow. 90%+ of your posts are all on bets and nothing else.
in fact apart from a few posts on yourself you have done nothing on this forum except talk about bets.
im not saying you are a troll, I am sure you are a patient that is legitimate.
just go ahead and have surgery with bets instead of making 50 posts about him. you already said money is not an issue.
otherwise go ahead and have surgery with guitch.
but you making 50 posts on the same opinion is not going to change anything. if you refuse to think this forum's opinion on bets is accurate then go have surgery with bets and write a diary.
the forum currently has a better opinion in guitches nail. you have your answer. now make a decision.
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It is really strange why you have hear so different opinion. The patients mostly stay at the same place. There was in the last Time not one problem regarding the nail.
Which place do you mean? Saarschleife, Elke or Parkhotel?
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I want to go with betz thats why i Post Lot about him. You scared me little bit otherwise i would have been done already.
I cant See gichuit is better as there are Very less diaries about him.