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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: Coffeepotlover on August 03, 2023, 01:08:51 AM
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I recently completed my LL Journey with the above company, and even though I found some aspects positive, there were mostly negative aspects. The positive is the doctor; I believe he is very professional, good at what he does, and cares about his patients, but the bad comes after when you have to spend your time at the hotel. From the start, you are blatantly lied to by saying they have a 24/7 gym and pool, which is just not true; they haven't had a gym in over 6 months at least but will still post and advertise pictures saying that they do, I assume so they can get customers in the door, which is really dishonest. Same with the pool; it's closed, and even when it's open, it's not even wheelchair-friendly, so just another lie you are told is that hydrotherapy is offered. The physio room is so small, it's a hazard; you are always tripping over something, from walkers to wheelchairs. There is no equipment; the very few things they do have, such as a massage gun and exercise bike, are broken and have been broken for many months. Again, no one seems to care at all; it's like they are living in some fantasy. The beds where physiotherapy is carried out are broken; I think only one bed works at the moment. No AC I think it may finally be working at the moment. The hotel staff is rude and disrespectful when bringing up problems with the hotel. For a new hotel, it looks like it's been open for 150 years. Its property management is horrible, and the food quality is not so good. Maggots in the food at breakfast are common, and only 5% of the menu at dinner is available, and again, the hotel staff doesn't care. For the price you pay, you don't get much in return; you are basically trapped alone in your room for months at a time as they have no rec room for the patients or nothing to do. I met some great Turkish people, but again, some Turkish people within this company won't even talk to you unless you speak Turkish; you are basically invisible, and again, if you bring it up to anyone, you are just gaslighted for telling the truth. I have also seen some pretty bad stuff with this company, such as female patients being sexually assaulted and harassed. And a male patient was stabbed and nearly died, and the company—all they could think about was money and how the company looked—tried to sweep it under the rug and delete evidence. No support was offered. I recommend to anyone that they go somewhere else for the hotel because it's double the price and you get nothing where other places are half the price. For example, Livelifetaller has really good equipment and actually does have a gym and pool made for people using wheel chairs, and they seem a lot friendlier there.
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Another disinformation campaign is being run by god knows who, claiming that 'female patients were sexually assaulted and harassed, and a male patient was stabbed.' The capacity for ugliness in humans is truly profound. I have been watching criminal investigations over the past few days to improve my English, and I am fully convinced that a substantial number of people have personality disorders, lacking empathy entirely. The only claim you might be truthful about is the pool and physio room; apart from that, everything else is likely a blatant lie.
However, I'm intrigued by the story. Could you provide more information about the female patient who was sexually assaulted and the male patient who was stabbed? Please give as much detail as possible, while respecting the identities of the patients. Who stabbed the patient, and why? Who assaulted the female patient? Which hotel did you stay in? Can you share the photos you took? Most people would have taken many pictures. I certainly captured a lot of images during my stay there
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The video was taken on January 15th at 12:06 AM in the Marin Princess Hotel while I was undergoing a limb-lengthening procedure under the care of WannaBeTaller. This location served as the venue for all the physical therapy sessions. Due to the reflection, it's not visible in the video, but the sea was directly in front of us.
I believe they relocated somewhere else a few months ago I don't know. Hopefully, you will inundate us with lots of photos in this thread, considering the severity of your accusations. Or perhaps you think like 'throw mud, some will stick.' We have a similar phrase in Turkish; I'm not sure if the English idiom is quite the same.
https://vimeo.com/851166813?share=copy
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Another disinformation campaign is being run by god knows who, claiming that 'female patients were sxxually assaulted and harassed, and a male patient was stabbed.' The capacity for ugliness in humans is truly profound. I have been watching criminal investigations over the past few days to improve my English, and I am fully convinced that a substantial number of people have personality disorders, lacking empathy entirely. The only claim you might be truthful about is the pool and physio room; apart from that, everything else is likely a blatant lie.
However, I'm intrigued by the story. Could you provide more information about the female patient who was sxxually assaulted and the male patient who was stabbed? Please give as much detail as possible, while respecting the identities of the patients. Who stabbed the patient, and why? Who assaulted the female patient? Which hotel did you stay in? Can you share the photos you took? Most people would have taken many pictures. I certainly captured a lot of images during my stay there
I hate to say it but it’s all true. I’m with WBT right now, we’re staying in the Days Inn Hotel. The male patient was stabbed while we were still at the Princess Marin Kumburgaz hotel and there have been two SA incidents I am aware of. There’s a lot of pretty unfortunate shenanigans going on here with this company and many times they can be unprofessional. I personally had a relatively neutral experience but I know that wasn’t the case for many people here.
And no, we’re not gonna tell you names of who the girl was or who the guy was who got stabbed. That’s their private information and they’ve been through enough. The company was at fault for pretty much all of it. They knew people here were in danger and neglected to act on it. In fact they even had to fire one of the staff workers here because he was sxxually harassing some of the women. You can read my diary and see my story. I’m a real patient here. But you can’t go around saying that anyone who tries to expose the negative aspects of WBT is a liar.
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I am a patient there too and can confirm it is true sadly. The hotel is just plain dog **** if this was my country the hotel would be fined and I would be refunded.
Just to clarify overall I have actually enjoyed my time here despite a few problems.
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I recently completed my LL Journey with the above company, and even though I found some aspects positive, there were mostly negative aspects. The positive is the doctor; I believe he is very professional, good at what he does, and cares about his patients, but the bad comes after when you have to spend your time at the hotel. From the start, you are blatantly lied to by saying they have a 24/7 gym and pool, which is just not true; they haven't had a gym in over 6 months at least but will still post and advertise pictures saying that they do, I assume so they can get customers in the door, which is really dishonest. Same with the pool; it's closed, and even when it's open, it's not even wheelchair-friendly, so just another lie you are told is that hydrotherapy is offered. The physio room is so small, it's a hazard; you are always tripping over something, from walkers to wheelchairs. There is no equipment; the very few things they do have, such as a massage gun and exercise bike, are broken and have been broken for many months. Again, no one seems to care at all; it's like they are living in some fantasy. The beds where physiotherapy is carried out are broken; I think only one bed works at the moment. No AC I think it may finally be working at the moment. The hotel staff is rude and disrespectful when bringing up problems with the hotel. For a new hotel, it looks like it's been open for 150 years. Its property management is horrible, and the food quality is not so good. Maggots in the food at breakfast are common, and only 5% of the menu at dinner is available, and again, the hotel staff doesn't care. For the price you pay, you don't get much in return; you are basically trapped alone in your room for months at a time as they have no rec room for the patients or nothing to do. I met some great Turkish people, but again, some Turkish people within this company won't even talk to you unless you speak Turkish; you are basically invisible, and again, if you bring it up to anyone, you are just gaslighted for telling the truth. I have also seen some pretty bad stuff with this company, such as female patients being sxxually assaulted and harassed. And a male patient was stabbed and nearly died, and the company—all they could think about was money and how the company looked—tried to sweep it under the rug and delete evidence. No support was offered. I recommend to anyone that they go somewhere else for the hotel because it's double the price and you get nothing where other places are half the price. For example, Livelifetaller has really good equipment and actually does have a gym and pool made for people using wheel chairs, and they seem a lot friendlier there.
Hello, I am the quality control manager of the company. It is my responsibility to ensure that all services provided to patients, from transfers to accommodations, from physical therapy to medical dressing, are carried out according to the company's quality policy. Therefore, I will try to respond to each claim made by the patient in a detailed manner, without compromising honesty and transparency. In fact, forums are places where competitors criticize each other, and real patient reviews get mixed with fictitious ones, creating a risk of falling into the trap of manipulated information while trying to access accurate information. For this reason, as a principle, I prefer not to engage in discussions on forums. However, this time, I want to intervene because I feel a responsibility toward the company, the employees, and all our patients who return home with fulfilled dreams.
1- The patient stated that the doctor’s professionalism is a positive aspect of the company. Yes, our doctor and hospital team are indeed very good at their jobs. However, we also expected him to mention how excellent and professional the physical therapy and dressing services, which are part of the hotel-like amenities for patients, are. If we speak based on the statement of the doctor, in which the patient stated that he was professional, "A successful limb lengthening surgery journey is only 30%, the remaining 70% depends on successful physical therapy, the patient's commitment to the therapy, and dressing services." From what I observed, despite the patient's complaints about the pool, food, price, and many other things, they did not have any complaints about the current health of their legs. No infection or any leg issues at all. This alone should be enough to show that the company's professionalism is not limited to just the doctor.
2- I also have to agree with the patient's criticisms regarding the pool and gym facilities. The patient is right in this matter. However, there are some points that I cannot help but explain. Our company moved to an affiliate of the international brand Wyndham, a hotel, about two months ago to provide better service to our patients. During the relocation negotiations, the hotel was still making arrangements for the pool and gym, according to the information provided to us. We relied on this information and decided to move with the expectation that the pool and gym would be operational shortly. Unfortunately, due to various reasons, the hotel could not fulfill its commitment, and the pool and gym did not become operational during the two months after our move. (Based on the information given to me, the pool is currently operational and will be made accessible for disabled individuals.) The patient's accusation of deception by the company to deceive customers is either due to their malice or ignorance. Patients are not obliged to stay at the hotel, which is our company's business partner. Accommodation is just one of the options offered by the company and is not mandatory. After seeing the hotel, we refunded the accommodation packages to those who did not wish to stay there, and they stayed at their preferred homes or other hotels. This patient could have also chosen to cancel their accommodation package and stay at a hotel with a pool or even a jacuzzi. In fact, dozens of our patients stayed in other places during this two-month period, not at this hotel, and we continued to provide all the services to them with utmost care.
3- The physiotherapy room is designed to accommodate the treatment services of four patients simultaneously, according to the standards set by doctors and physiotherapy specialists. Assuming our patients adhere to their physiotherapy appointments, it is presumed they will achieve the maximum benefit from each session. The excellent success rate in our patients' physiotherapy treatments demonstrates that this assumption is being met accordingly.
4- The inadequacy of equipment has been a longstanding issue raised by patients. Equipment purchases are determined based on the recommendations of doctors and physical therapy specialists. Our company has empowered experts to identify and purchase all kinds of equipment that will help patients continue their physical therapies in an optimal manner. Our specialists believe that many fancy devices are merely part of a commercial marketing tactic, intended to impress but lacking substantial benefits. When I conveyed the complaints about equipment diversity to our physical therapy specialists, they responded as follows: "Many devices used by rival companies are actually just for show. If they had any real benefits, we would demand their purchase based on the authority granted to us. This way, our work would be easier, and we wouldn't have to exert so much effort. Success in physical therapy depends on a diligent physical therapist and the patient's personal effort in harmony with the physical therapy specialist.
5- When it comes to the devices that are reported as faulty, despite warnings, some of our patients are taking the functioning massage guns to their rooms. When we notice this, we order new ones, just like we did the other day. A new bicycle has also been purchased, but it is not being effectively used either due to improper usage or tampering with the pedals and seat pins. As soon as the malfunction is noticed, we intervene, and if it cannot be repaired, we immediately order a replacement. In the physical therapy room, we have four beds - three fixed and one with a movable system. One of the beds with a movable system malfunctioned, and due to the delay in obtaining the spare part and repairing it, it was temporarily used as a fixed bed. (According to the last information I received, all that remains is to install the supplied spare part in the system.) In essence, whether a bed has a movable or fixed system has little significance on the success of the applied physical therapy, and since the patient mentioned a problem with the bed and not with their legs, it seems that he has had a successful physical therapy process.
As for the ventilation of the physical therapy room, it is true that there was a problem caused by the central air conditioning system in the hotel's property, specifically in the ventilation ducts providing air to some rooms. Unfortunately, this has caused discomfort for the patients in hot weather. We have consistently made efforts with the hotel to resolve this issue, as it falls under the hotel's ownership and responsibility. Additionally, we purchased a portable air conditioner to try to alleviate the problem to some extent. (Based on the latest information I have, the ventilation issue in the physical therapy room has been resolved six days ago.)
6- While the direct criticisms related to the hotel should perhaps be addressed by the hotel itself, I still want to share my observations from the times I visited the hotel. A- As I mentioned before, the hotel operates as a subsidiary of the world-renowned international hotel chain, Wyndham, and it is relatively new in service. I must admit that being a newly established hotel comes with some challenges. However, among these issues, there is no problem with the hotel staff being rude and disrespectful. Undoubtedly, there are dozens of staff members in this hotel, and it's possible that a few of them might be rude or impolite. But the same issue applies to our patients as well. While some patients are praised for their politeness by the hotel staff, there are also patients who are claimed to be rude and disrespectful by the hotel staff. This patient is probably one of them 😊 I guess expecting people from different nationalities to exhibit high standards of conduct and ethics in a world where even people of the same nation fight with each other would be unrealistic. B- The quality of the hotel's food can certainly be debatable, but I cannot give an opinion on that since I haven't had lunch or dinner there yet. However, I was quite surprised by the patient's claims of finding worms in the breakfast. Because I have had breakfast at this hotel at least 15 times and have never encountered such a situation. To be honest, the variety and quality were satisfying from my perspective. Not only me but also six of the company's employees who have been having their breakfast here from the beginning haven't mentioned anything about their breakfast being spiced up by worms. I wish the patient had taken photos of these adorable worms visiting them during breakfast and informed us immediately, so we wouldn't have to learn about this worm story from a forum now. C- Actually, it shouldn't be a problem for the patient even if the evening menu of the hotel is just 1% of the total options available. There are hundreds of establishments around the hotel that provide services and accept online orders, and this option is one of the reasons why we chose this hotel. Well, the patient could have used this option to order the desired food, and we have a staff member entirely dedicated to handling these orders from the patients. D- (Although it is almost finished,) it would be harsh to criticize the patient's claim of being confined to their room for months due to ongoing renovations in the hotel's pool, terrace, and gym. However, the situation is not as dire as the patient suggests. The hotel has a lobby and an integrated common sitting area. Furthermore, the hotel rooms have a one-bedroom suite concept, which offers a more spacious arrangement compared to standard hotel rooms. As previously mentioned, patients are not obligated to stay in this hotel, and we already provide services to many patients who choose to stay elsewhere according to their preferences. Patients are not obliged to consider either the patient's complaints or my defense when deciding whether to stay in this hotel. After personally seeing the hotel, they can make their decision freely. E- We didn't know that we had fascist staff who spoke Turkish with the patient even though he or she didn't speak Turkish 😊 If the patient shares the names of these staff members with us and if we find any intention behind their behavior, I guarantee that we will terminate their employment immediately. Currently, our staff has an accepted level of English to provide the services promised by the company in the contracts, in case the patient doesn't wish to engage in philosophical discussions about Jean-Jacques Rousseau or Hegel with them.
Until now, I have preferred to respond to the patient's criticisms by occasionally acknowledging their perspective and sometimes using humor. However, in this final point, there will be no humor, and I will not agree with the patient in any way. This is because, considering that the patient has neither directly nor indirectly suffered any harm in the incident they mentioned and is not one of the parties involved, I believe their intention is not to offer constructive criticism but rather to maliciously discredit the company and trap forum members into biases against the company.
7- All the individuals involved in the harassment and injury incident mentioned by the patient are our patients. As a company, we strictly adhere to the principle of impartiality in resolving any issues that may arise between patients, with the sole priority of calming the situation and preventing further harm to our patients. In this particular case, we have advised each party involved to seek their rights through independent legal channels by offering to provide them with lawyers. This is because each patient has denied the other party's claims and put forth their own. Regarding the injury incident, the patient who suffered a leg injury claimed that he was attacked without reason, while the other patient who caused the injury claimed that he was forced to defend himself in response to an attack against him. As for the aspect of harassment, the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions. In such a complex situation, it was not up to us but the judicial authorities to determine who was right and who was wrong. Therefore, we encouraged the parties to seek their rights through legal means, and during this process, our company did its best. The party accused of harassment and assault is seeking his rights through legal means and hired a Turkish lawyer. The legal process is currently ongoing, and it would be inappropriate for me to comment further, as sharing more information could violate legal confidentiality. As I am not in a legal position to provide an opinion, I refrain from making any comments. Currently, all the patients involved in the incident have completed their processes and returned to their countries. If the serious events mentioned by the patient on the forum, such as near-death experiences or assault, had actually occurred, Turkish Criminal Law would have imposed precautionary measures and the accused person would not have been allowed to leave the country. Hence, the claim that 'the company disregarded the incident and provided no support to the patients involved, solely focusing on money and prestige' is highly unethical and baseless. Moreover, even if such an incident had occurred, why would our female patient, who claims to have been harassed, refuse to accept the offer of being relocated to another hotel for her safety and insist on staying at our company's hotel on her own will? This alone should be enough to demonstrate her trust in our company. Furthermore, why would the same patient convey her request to stay at the same hotel for her second surgery? Despite our insistence on recommending other hotels with concealed addresses for patients involved in the incident due to various security concerns, why did this female patient insist on staying at our hotel? And why did she want to complete her second surgery process here?
If we were thinking about money, would we recommend this patient we are worried about to have her second surgery done somewhere else? We kindly recommended her to do the second surgery somewhere else.
The long and the short, it is unacceptable persecution for a patient who was not involved in the incident and did not suffer any harm from the events, to adopt an unfair and unjust attitude that exceeds the boundaries of constructive criticism towards our company based on an event he is not familiar with.
For example, if this patient, who displays this unacceptable behavior, were friends with another patient of ours and later his friend whom he befriended stole his money and caused harm, would our company be held responsible for his/her wrongdoing? If we did not encourage or assist that patient in stealing the other patient's money and causing harm, which is already unthinkable, can the company be held accountable for its actions? We embrace all of our patients, regardless of their religion, language, race, or color, and strive to do our best to help them achieve their dreams. We do not possess a miraculous ability to determine who is a saint and who is a devil. If we did, we would identify and never allow such ungrateful and malicious patients to approach our company, despite all our dedication, efforts, closeness, and the successful treatment we have provided.
We have confidence in ourselves. We do not shy away from our mistakes and deficiencies but confront them and try to overcome them. We will continue to strive to do better and achieve the best.
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The video was taken on January 15th at 12:06 AM in the Marin Princess Hotel while I was undergoing a limb-lengthening procedure under the care of WannaBeTaller. This location served as the venue for all the physical therapy sessions. Due to the reflection, it's not visible in the video, but the sea was directly in front of us.
I believe they relocated somewhere else a few months ago I don't know. Hopefully, you will inundate us with lots of photos in this thread, considering the severity of your accusations. Or perhaps you think like 'throw mud, some will stick.' We have a similar phrase in Turkish; I'm not sure if the English idiom is quite the same.
https://vimeo.com/851166813?share=copy
Dear valued patient,
First and foremost, we want to express our gratitude for your trust and understanding in handling this sensitive matter. We are aware of the unfortunate incident that occurred between some of our patients. It resulted from a disagreement between four patients of the same nationality.
The incident involved a female patient who claimed to have been harassed, another patient accused of harassment, and two other patients who supported the woman's claim. Following her accusation, a physical altercation broke out between the alleged abuser and the two supporting patients, leading to one of them being injured by a knife.
As soon as we were made aware of the situation, we took immediate action to ensure the safety of all our patients. We provided unbiased support to all parties involved in the incident. Rather than taking sides or determining the truth of the claims, we felt it was best to bring the situation under control and involve the appropriate legal authorities to resolve the matter.
If you wish to obtain more detailed information about the events and our company's dedicated response, please don't hesitate to contact us.
Once again, we appreciate your trust and cooperation as we strive to maintain a safe and supportive environment for all our patients.
Regards,
WBT
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Yes, I am a patient here, and I can confirm that this kind of thing really happened, and the attitude of the company is also ridiculous. If you would rather trust the company than us as patients, I have nothing to say. The girl was not raped, but she was sxxually harassed and attempted rape. Forcing a girl who is still in a disability, and moving a girl who has experienced this kind of thing to live alone in another hotel without any staff, and she is isolated and helpless if anything happens. Is this how your company handles it? It's hard not to make people suspect that your motive is to throw her to a non-cooperative hotel, so that no matter what happens in the future, you can get rid of the relationship. Please stop gaslighting, she doesn't pursue the responsibility for the time being because she still doesn't know how to face this kind of thing, he is only an 18-year-old girl, please don't stand on the side of the perpetrator and hurt her again. This girl was only two years older than her rapist's daughter. How could he did such a thing?But not surprised. He immigrant to the UK, in order to obtain legal status quickly, let his wife drop out of school at the age of 16 to conceive and have children, won't be a normal guy😂all the parents know that patients were stabbed by the rapist because of the evidence. If it wasn't for the fact that the company is full of lies trying to cover up the truth, I wouldn't post these.Finally, I would like to paraphrase the words of the victimized 18 year old girl: Lies written in pen and ink cannot cover up facts written in blood.
The link below is videos of the rapist's confession
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132 (https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132)
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851907268 (https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851907268)
Scene of bloodshed
https://imgur.com/a/68yMn7a (https://imgur.com/a/68yMn7a)
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Scene of bloodshed
https://imgur.com/a/68yMn7a
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I hate to say it but it’s all true. I’m with WBT right now, we’re staying in the Days Inn Hotel. The male patient was stabbed while we were still at the Princess Marin Kumburgaz hotel and there have been two SA incidents I am aware of. There’s a lot of pretty unfortunate shenanigans going on here with this company and many times they can be unprofessional. I personally had a relatively neutral experience but I know that wasn’t the case for many people here.
And no, we’re not gonna tell you names of who the girl was or who the guy was who got stabbed. That’s their private information and they’ve been through enough. The company was at fault for pretty much all of it. They knew people here were in danger and neglected to act on it. In fact they even had to fire one of the staff workers here because he was sxxually harassing some of the women. You can read my diary and see my story. I’m a real patient here. But you can’t go around saying that anyone who tries to expose the negative aspects of WBT is a liar.
As the Quality Control Manager of WBT, I regret to point out that you're echoing the same mistake made by a patient known as Francesco1 in this forum. The points I raised while addressing Francesco1, specifically about the dispute between patients, are equally applicable to your case. You're unfairly suggesting that "the company knew the individuals here were at risk and failed to act appropriately." We are not a security or intelligence firm. Therefore, we may not recognize the danger facing people unless they explicitly communicate this to us. When incidents occurred, we swiftly took all necessary steps.
Frankly, the fact that both the patient who was involved in the stabbing incident and the woman who allegedly experienced harassment remained in our hotel until their departure from the country is a testament to the trust in our company. Moreover, despite our repeated recommendations for these two patients to switch hotels, they declined our offer. Intriguingly, even though the man involved in the fight and the woman who claimed to have been harassed did not accuse the company, some of our patients, who were not directly involved in the incidents and didn't experience any harm, continue to level persistent accusations against the company!
The individual you mentioned as being dismissed by the company was not an employee of ours. He was a caretaker provided by one of our partnered companies for such services. As he was not on our payroll, the notion of him being dismissed is inapplicable. We simply informed his affiliate company that we no longer wished to work with him. The real reason for this was not because of allegations that he harassed one of our female patients. This companion had clearly violated the terms of the contract signed between him and our company, prompting us to end our association with him. This decision was put into effect by myself and the human resources department, on the same day we received notification of his alleged misconduct. He was questioned about this claim but vehemently denied it. In such situations, all we can do is recommend that the involved parties seek legal recourse. Harassment is reprehensible, regardless of the perpetrator, be it a patient, a staff member, or anyone else! However, without solid evidence, we are unable to take decisive action and can only advise the aggrieved parties to turn to the judicial authorities. For instance, just two weeks ago, one of our female staff members claimed she was repeatedly harassed by a patient and subsequently resigned. If I had substantial proof, I would have been more than willing to inform this abusive patient that all services to him have been terminated, as our contract includes a clause to this effect. Unfortunately, with nothing but the claims of our staff, we could only encourage her to seek legal recourse.
As for the numerous unfortunate mishaps associated with the company that you've mentioned, should they extend beyond the pool or gym-related issues, I encourage you to reach out to us directly. As Quality Control Manager, I have recently held one-on-one meetings with many of our patients and plan to meet the remainder as soon as possible. I'm presuming you're not among those I've interviewed, as none of the patients have brought up any unfortunate mishaps thus far. There have been mentions of certain shortcomings, which I have acknowledged and meticulously documented.
Being a patient of WBT does not entitle you to blame the personal failings of individuals. Especially when the company took immediate and necessary action. You came to us for a limb-lengthening operation. If we were not professional in our approach, the discussion in this forum would revolve around postoperative complications like infections, rather than hotel issues, fights, and harassment. Please refrain from reminding me here that accommodation is also part of our responsibility! We are aware of this and strive to address any issues that arise. If our efforts fall short of your expectations, we can refund your accommodation fees and allow you to continue receiving our services while staying at a place of your choosing.
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I am a patient there too and can confirm it is true sadly. The hotel is just plain dog **** if this was my country the hotel would be fined and I would be refunded.
Just to clarify overall I have actually enjoyed my time here despite a few problems.
We are aware of the issues related to the hotel and understand your concerns. We will continue to do our best to ensure your comfort and for you to proceed and conclude your process in the best possible way.
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Yes, I am a patient here, and I can confirm that this kind of thing really happened, and the attitude of the company is also ridiculous. If you would rather trust the company than us as patients, I have nothing to say. The girl was not raped, but she was sxxually harassed and attempted rape. Forcing a girl who is still in a disability, and moving a girl who has experienced this kind of thing to live alone in another hotel without any staff, and she is isolated and helpless if anything happens. Is this how your company handles it? It's hard not to make people suspect that your motive is to throw her to a non-cooperative hotel, so that no matter what happens in the future, you can get rid of the relationship. Please stop gaslighting, she doesn't pursue the responsibility for the time being because she still doesn't know how to face this kind of thing, he is only an 18-year-old girl, please don't stand on the side of the perpetrator and hurt her again. This girl was only two years older than her rapist's daughter. How could he did such a thing?But not surprised. He immigrant to the UK, in order to obtain legal status quickly, let his wife drop out of school at the age of 16 to conceive and have children, won't be a normal guy😂all the parents know that patients were stabbed by the rapist because of the evidence. If it wasn't for the fact that the company is full of lies trying to cover up the truth, I wouldn't post these.Finally, I would like to paraphrase the words of the victimized 18 year old girl: Lies written in pen and ink cannot cover up facts written in blood.
The link below is videos of the rapist's confession
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132 (https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132)
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851907268 (https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851907268)
Scene of bloodshed
https://imgur.com/a/68yMn7a (https://imgur.com/a/68yMn7a)
I firmly believe that our company's actions have been the most humane, safest, and most lawful. We are being unfairly victimized in a fight between patients within our company, and our reputation is under attack. However, we will not stand by and let this happen. Despite our company's altruistic and humane actions, we won't tolerate any accusations of us taking a side in this incident.
The tone of this article suggests that it was written by one of the patients involved in the fight. Phrases such as "Taking the female patient to another hotel alone, to a place without staff, etc." hint at this. I suspect you are the patient who insisted we keep the female patient at the hotel for her second surgery, threatening to defame us if we did not comply. If you reveal your identity, I will personally share our correspondence with any of our patients who harbor doubts about our company.
We have extensive communication with this female patient, demonstrating our concern for her safety and the precautions we took. We won't hesitate to share this when necessary and with her permission, ensuring legality.
When we transferred the female patient to another hotel, we ensured all safety requirements were met. My area of expertise is security, and I have substantial experience in it. How our company handles this incident is our business, not the public's.
If you have a video or evidence, why haven't you shared it with a lawyer instead of on this forum, considering the case has gone to court? There is no need for you to speak on behalf of the alleged 18-year-old victim. She can express her thoughts here freely. As I mentioned, we have records of how we tried to manage this situation, and we will share them with our company's lawyer when necessary to counter this smear campaign.
It's unfortunate that I'm spending valuable time that could be used to address our current patients' genuine complaints and make improvements, responding to individuals intent on tarnishing our company's reputation. I leave this matter to the conscience of those in the forum who are reading what each side has written. Conscience will make the right decision.
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I'm just stating the facts. Why are you in such a hurry? That's so funny :D :D :D :D
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I firmly believe that our company's actions have been the most humane, safest, and most lawful. We are being unfairly victimized in a fight between patients within our company, and our reputation is under attack. However, we will not stand by and let this happen. Despite our company's altruistic and humane actions, we won't tolerate any accusations of us taking a side in this incident.
The tone of this article suggests that it was written by one of the patients involved in the fight. Phrases such as "Taking the female patient to another hotel alone, to a place without staff, etc." hint at this. I suspect you are the patient who insisted we keep the female patient at the hotel for her second surgery, threatening to defame us if we did not comply. If you reveal your identity, I will personally share our correspondence with any of our patients who harbor doubts about our company.
We have extensive communication with this female patient, demonstrating our concern for her safety and the precautions we took. We won't hesitate to share this when necessary and with her permission, ensuring legality.
When we transferred the female patient to another hotel, we ensured all safety requirements were met. My area of expertise is security, and I have substantial experience in it. How our company handles this incident is our business, not the public's.
If you have a video or evidence, why haven't you shared it with a lawyer instead of on this forum, considering the case has gone to court? There is no need for you to speak on behalf of the alleged 18-year-old victim. She can express her thoughts here freely. As I mentioned, we have records of how we tried to manage this situation, and we will share them with our company's lawyer when necessary to counter this smear campaign.
It's unfortunate that I'm spending valuable time that could be used to address our current patients' genuine complaints and make improvements, responding to individuals intent on tarnishing our company's reputation. I leave this matter to the conscience of those in the forum who are reading what each side has written. Conscience will make the right decision.
I'm just stating the facts. Why are you in such a hurry? That's so funny :D :D :D :D. I want to say:
It is her freedom and right for the girl to sue or not sue the person who hurt her. She also clearly told all patients that she does not want to keep recalling that she was almost violated, so she will not pursue legal responsibility for the time being(It doesn't mean that there won't be,She needs time to face this psychological shadow）There is no such case as you mentioned”The party accused of harassment is seeking his rights through legal means and hired a Turkish lawyer . The legal process is currently ongoing’’, but not sue yet does not mean she has not been harmed. I was refuting your point that the rapist denies sexual assault. All the patients know and are discussing these shocking things, is it slandering your company if the patients put forward their thoughts?
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Turkish victims unite, don't let the increase of broken bones in Turkey, black intermediaries increase step by step, Wannabetaller feel that the dissolution of wechat group victims can't take them! Don't because of the silence of the victim, let Turkey broken bone increase the black intermediary have the opportunity to make up the black patient hard wash white black intermediary themselves!
I am a patient from China with chronic nonunion caused by wannarbetaller.
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I'm just stating the facts. Why are you in such a hurry? That's so funny :D :D :D :D. I want to say:
It is her freedom and right for the girl to sue or not sue the person who hurt her. She also clearly told all patients that she does not want to keep recalling that she was almost violated, so she will not pursue legal responsibility for the time being(It doesn't mean that there won't be,She needs time to face this psychological shadow）There is no such case as you mentioned”The party accused of harassment is seeking his rights through legal means and hired a Turkish lawyer . The legal process is currently ongoing’’, but not sue yet does not mean she has not been harmed. I was refuting your point that the rapist denies sxxual assault. All the patients know and are discussing these shocking things, is it slandering your company if the patients put forward their thoughts?
This is a serious matter and I'm not laughing. No, you didn't tell the truth, you distorted it and you're using it to smear the company. Moreover, the place for these facts should have been a trial file before a forum. Instead of sharing any information or evidence you have with the relevant lawyers and taking it to court, you're here just making statements as if you're caring for the female patient. Yet, you are in the wrong place.
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The rise of the black intermediary Wannabetaller in Turkey has really made the medical and aesthetic channel into a palace drama, the maker of palace drama, and the harvester of brain-less fans. I have been in Turkey for a year and a half to see w staff including patients attacking other two institutions, afa and fetaller, as well as their own victims have been smearged and attacked, whoever is exposed to attack! Some patients rely on kneeling to please W bo people's eye! At that time, it was because W's victims had withdrawn from the circle, and only the officials and patients were left there to wash their white, which would make them successful and attract us! Rights protection has long been expected, W is not the kind of channel with a bottom line, I know them too well, not only will not admit their mistakes, and in turn fabricated lies, bite the victim! I just stood up as the experience victim of w, and the brainless fans said I was an employee of afa! He has not yet had surgery, he began to kneel and lick W! If I want to make a lot of money, it's easy, but I don't want other people to be disabled like me and be smeared and threatened by w's boss! One of my same group of patients had four precise operations on the thigh and nearly died. w asked her to pull a rebate when the compensation was rejected by her. After the operation, she was threatened and verbally abused by w and brainless fans, and cried her face every day. And that 83, too, was attacked by w and the brainless fan. Only W is happy! This circle is not suitable for good people to live!
Overseas friends can use translation software to see my share, exposing wannarbetaller's crimes in real time.
https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/643724331 (https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/643724331)
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This is a serious matter and I'm not laughing. No, you didn't tell the truth, you distorted it and you're using it to smear the company. Moreover, the place for these facts should have been a trial file before a forum. Instead of sharing any information or evidence you have with the relevant lawyers and taking it to court, you're here just making statements as if you're caring for the female patient. Yet, you are in the wrong place.
Awesome, you stay in office seem to know more about the facts than patients whom stay in hotel.I distort the truth? Are you trying to imply that the girl was not sxxually assaulted? He himself admitted that what he did, and you are so eager to clear the charges for the rapist, remember to ask him for the public relations fee🤭
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https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132 (https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132)
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All I have to say is fk Turkey that hole is not to be trusted for CLL. You are not safe. Pure plan and simple.
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Awesome, you stay in office seem to know more about the facts than patients whom stay in hotel.I distort the truth? Are you trying to imply that the girl was not sxxually assaulted? He himself admitted that what he did, and you are so eager to clear the charges for the rapist, remember to ask him for the public relations fee🤭
again
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132 (https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132)
Boyo, women lie about being 'raped' all the time, it's an epidemic. Plenty of women who willingly had sex and then regretted it AFTER, only to turn around and cry rape when it was nothing of the sort.
So yes, allegations are just allegations, not proof, and the correct term is 'alleged'. The company signed a legal contract with presumably both patients to provide them limb lengthening services, and they're still bound by said contract to both patients as until a judgement is handed down by a court the guy is completely innocent. So yes, they have to care for both of the patients and provide the services which they're legally obligated to, this is nothing more than an internal dispute between 2 patients and is actually nothing to do with the company who seem to have taken the step to separate the patients by having one of them move hotels as a token of good will anyway.
I'm not in Turkey, didn't do my leg lengthening in Turkey, and since I'm only going to lengthen one segment, I'll never be doing LL in Turkey as I've got it done already elsewhere. I'm well aware of the shady reputation of some Turkish places, and there's plenty of actual problems once could bring up about various clinics in that country. But 2 patients having a dispute, no matter the severity of that dispute, isn't anything to do with the company providing limb lengthening services.
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Boyo, women lie about being 'raped' all the time, it's an epidemic. Plenty of women who willingly had sxx and then regretted it AFTER, only to turn around and cry rape when it was nothing of the sort.
So yes, allegations are just allegations, not proof, and the correct term is 'alleged'. The company signed a legal contract with presumably both patients to provide them limb lengthening services, and they're still bound by said contract to both patients as until a judgement is handed down by a court the guy is completely innocent. So yes, they have to care for both of the patients and provide the services which they're legally obligated to, this is nothing more than an internal dispute between 2 patients and is actually nothing to do with the company who seem to have taken the step to separate the patients by having one of them move hotels as a token of good will anyway.
I'm not in Turkey, didn't do my leg lengthening in Turkey, and since I'm only going to lengthen one segment, I'll never be doing LL in Turkey as I've got it done already elsewhere. I'm well aware of the shady reputation of some Turkish places, and there's plenty of actual problems once could bring up about various clinics in that country. But 2 patients having a dispute, no matter the severity of that dispute, isn't anything to do with the company providing limb lengthening services.
Are you a wannabetaller's big son? Otherwise I can only say that your country is too backward, is a garbage country that does not respect the rights of women!! I wish your daughter was almost raped by a fat old man 20 years of age and it was consensual. And I hope your mother was raped and you say the same thing. Inferior dog who discriminate against women!!! :P
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Boyo, women lie about being 'raped' all the time, it's an epidemic. Plenty of women who willingly had sxx and then regretted it AFTER, only to turn around and cry rape when it was nothing of the sort.
So yes, allegations are just allegations, not proof, and the correct term is 'alleged'. The company signed a legal contract with presumably both patients to provide them limb lengthening services, and they're still bound by said contract to both patients as until a judgement is handed down by a court the guy is completely innocent. So yes, they have to care for both of the patients and provide the services which they're legally obligated to, this is nothing more than an internal dispute between 2 patients and is actually nothing to do with the company who seem to have taken the step to separate the patients by having one of them move hotels as a token of good will anyway.
I'm not in Turkey, didn't do my leg lengthening in Turkey, and since I'm only going to lengthen one segment, I'll never be doing LL in Turkey as I've got it done already elsewhere. I'm well aware of the shady reputation of some Turkish places, and there's plenty of actual problems one could bring up about various clinics in that country. But 2 patients having a dispute, no matter the severity of that dispute, have anything to do with the company providing limb lengthening services.
Your approach is reasonable. Let me point out that we did not have conclusive evidence to refute or confirm our female patient's claims at that time. For this reason, we encouraged the parties to apply to the judicial authorities and stated that we would provide all kinds of support.
We have already dealt with the female patient as closely as we can during the process. So much so that when she said that she wanted to have her second surgery, we even told her that it would be better to calm things down a little more and get herself together for the new surgery. Would a company that thinks about money and allegedly doesn't care about its patients, would ever delay an operation that would make money for the sake of its patient?
We are also aware that Turkey's success in the health tourism sector is overshadowed by the fact that some under-the-stairs health institutions do not meet the basic standards. However, our company is accredited by many health institutions, including the Ministry of Health, and the relevant documents can be accessed on our website. We respect your decision not to want to have your surgery in Turkey. But we would like you to make your decision after seeing it with your own eyes, without looking at any comments for or against us here.
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Are you a wannabetaller's big son? Otherwise I can only say that your country is too backward, is a garbage country that does not respect the rights of women!! I wish your daughter was almost raped by a fat old man 20 years of age and it was consensual. And I hope your mother was raped and you say the same thing. Inferior dog who discriminate against women!!! :P
Why are you choosing to share the videos concerning the female patient here, instead of presenting them to the court? This approach is not correct. Such videos should be presented to a lawyer or prosecutor.
"In fact, forums are places where competitors criticize each other, and real patient reviews get mixed with fictitious ones, creating a risk of falling into the trap of manipulated information while trying to access accurate information. For this reason, as a principle, I prefer not to engage in discussions on forums. However, this time, I want to intervene because I feel a responsibility toward the company, the employees, and all our patients who return home with fulfilled dreams."
Things are unfolding just as I predicted, aren't they? Unidentified individuals, who may not even be patients, allegations unrelated to the company, and mutual finger-pointing, are all set in the intricate landscape of a forum where loyalties and affiliations remain ambiguous. It's quite a labyrinth, isn't it?
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Turkish victims unite, don't let the increase of broken bones in Turkey, black intermediaries increase step by step, Wannabetaller feel that the dissolution of wechat group victims can't take them! Don't because of the silence of the victim, let Turkey broken bone increase the black intermediary have the opportunity to make up the black patient hard wash white black intermediary themselves!
I am a patient from China with chronic nonunion caused by wannarbetaller.
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I got to know you, S. You are the patient who was advised by doctors and physical therapists to stop at 6.5 cm. However, you were the patient who continued the distraction despite all the warnings until the next X-ray, in secret from the experts. As a quality control, I personally warned you four times at separate times to strictly follow the guidelines for your health by visiting you in your room. Again, you didn't listen to us, and we took the extension key from you and tried to stop you from stopping the distraction.
Your second problem was that you wanted to stay in a private house with your boyfriend persistently, despite our insistence on keeping you under our watch. When you didn't give up on your decision to move house, we recommended that you at least stayed in touch with us so that we could follow up on your situation at home. But you were never in touch with us and did not let us know your situation till your infection problem worsened over the months and there wasn't much time left for us to reverse the situation. We still continued to do our best for you. But you had done nothing but continued to target us in all forums. We even advised you to seek your rights through legal means if you thought the company or the doctor were unfair and at fault. You could hire a lawyer you hire, even in your home country, and they could do it for you with ease. If the problem was caused by the company or the doctor, (dr.yurttas), you could even get serious compensation. I'm surprised you're wasting your time slandering the company on the forums instead of doing that. I'll come back here to answer each of your claims as needed if it will be necessary.
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Are you a wannabetaller's big son? Otherwise I can only say that your country is too backward, is a garbage country that does not respect the rights of women!! I wish your daughter was almost raped by a fat old man 20 years of age and it was consensual. And I hope your mother was raped and you say the same thing. Inferior dog who discriminate against women!!! :P
Yep, soy paladin riding in on his white horse defending m'lady, because no women would ever lie would they, tons of you losers out there, get fked. I'll wait for the guy to be convicted by a real court instead of some metoo believe all women male feminist soyboy, thanks. Until then, he's innocent. No complaint appears to have been lodged, white knights like you will convince yourselves it's because of 'trauma', but it could also easily be because she's a liar (just like many women in this exact scenario) and has no intention of having the court go over her pack of lies and find them out.
Either way, it's got fk all to do with the company whether the woman is a liar, or the guy is a rapist. They're a leg lengthening company, not a court or a mediation service.
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Why are you choosing to share the videos concerning the female patient here, instead of presenting them to the court? This approach is not correct. Such videos should be presented to a lawyer or prosecutor.
"In fact, forums are places where competitors criticize each other, and real patient reviews get mixed with fictitious ones, creating a risk of falling into the trap of manipulated information while trying to access accurate information. For this reason, as a principle, I prefer not to engage in discussions on forums. However, this time, I want to intervene because I feel a responsibility toward the company, the employees, and all our patients who return home with fulfilled dreams."
Things are unfolding just as I predicted, aren't they? Unidentified individuals, who may not even be patients, allegations unrelated to the company, and mutual finger-pointing, are all set in the intricate landscape of a forum where loyalties and affiliations remain ambiguous. It's quite a labyrinth, isn't it?
I can post wherever I want. Who do you think you are? Please don't teach me to do anything, I just love to expose the truth here, to expose some people's ugly faces !! :P :P :P
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What I find curious about wannabetaller, livelifetaller, and the like is that if the criticisms against them on the forum are false, why don't they take legal action against the posters or LL Forum?
Are the posts by LL Forum fully anonymized, making it impossible to legally penalize them?
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What I find curious about wannabetaller, livelifetaller, and the like is that if the criticisms against them on the forum are false, why don't they take legal action against the posters or LL Forum?
Are the posts by LL Forum fully anonymized, making it impossible to legally penalize them?
Firstly, no one wants anyone to know they've had limb lengthening surgery, Secondly, a foreigner filing a lawsuit abroad requires a lot of time and money.
I am so sorry, I dont see it carefully.....
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Another patient with swollen and infected leg after surgery in Turkey! It was also the doctor recommended by the agent of wannabetaller in Turkey who developed swelling and infection after the operation. Fortunately, I returned to China when the infection occurred, and the treatment was not delayed. Swelling immediately went to complete the debridement surgery, but the dressing change process was painfully painful!
https://video.weibo.com/show?fid=1034:4819521735950386 (https://video.weibo.com/show?fid=1034:4819521735950386)
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Turkey broken bone increased intermediary Wannabetaller (because of more incidents now renamed bubuzenggao, real bull forced registered good company and website said to change the name), they have a lot of support! When you make money and when you need after-sales service is two face! Never give medical records do not give receipts do not give contracts do not want to after-sales accidents like to kick the ball!
W often treats people's legs as nerve damage, as well as infection, delays treatment, misleads treatment, causes people to become chronic osteomyelitis, and then ignores it. He often kicks the ball in order to pass the responsibility, and insists that it is the patient's own problem and has nothing to do with them. He also says that it is unfair to other patients treated by him if he treats patients or pays for treatment. Kicking the ball and passing the buck is disgusting!
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Firstly, no one wants anyone to know they've had limb lengthening surgery, Secondly, a foreigner filing a lawsuit abroad requires a lot of time and money. Is everyone like you donnt have work to do?
I believe there's a misunderstanding. My question is, if patients are lying, why don't the medical institutions take legal action against these patients?
I support you.
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I believe there's a misunderstanding. My question is, if patients are lying, why don't the medical institutions take legal action against these patients?
I am so sorry, I dont see it carefully....
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I am so sorry, I dont see it carefully....
Don't worry about it. However, I cannot access the following image in my environment. I'm not sure about other users, but if possible, please upload it to another platform.
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Don't worry about it. However, I cannot access the following image in my environment. I'm not sure about other users, but if possible, please upload it to another platform.
ok, you can see them from my ins
https://www.instagram.com/wannabetaller_victim/
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Boyo, women lie about being 'raped' all the time, it's an epidemic. Plenty of women who willingly had sxx and then regretted it AFTER, only to turn around and cry rape when it was nothing of the sort.
So yes, allegations are just allegations, not proof, and the correct term is 'alleged'. The company signed a legal contract with presumably both patients to provide them limb lengthening services, and they're still bound by said contract to both patients as until a judgement is handed down by a court the guy is completely innocent. So yes, they have to care for both of the patients and provide the services which they're legally obligated to, this is nothing more than an internal dispute between 2 patients and is actually nothing to do with the company who seem to have taken the step to separate the patients by having one of them move hotels as a token of good will anyway.
I'm not in Turkey, didn't do my leg lengthening in Turkey, and since I'm only going to lengthen one segment, I'll never be doing LL in Turkey as I've got it done already elsewhere. I'm well aware of the shady reputation of some Turkish places, and there's plenty of actual problems once could bring up about various clinics in that country. But 2 patients having a dispute, no matter the severity of that dispute, isn't anything to do with the company providing limb lengthening services.
So I wasn't going to say anything, but this is horrible. I saw the company communicate about what happened with this patient, because she showed me the texts. Whether the company is at fault is irrelevant, and I refuse to comment on that, but she was assaulted TWICE by two different people and multiple of us were either there to confirm it happened or saw the aftermath of the texts. One of these people also assaulted me - In my case the company directly intervened and dealt with the situation, and the employee was fired. This doesn't change the fact it disgusted me and left me feeling unsafe. I appreciate them firing him and taking action, but this is a traumatic event that is entirely separate from everything else you are going through recovery wise. Some of you need to stop gaslighting victims.
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Yes, I am a patient here, and I can confirm that this kind of thing really happened, and the attitude of the company is also ridiculous. If you would rather trust the company than us as patients, I have nothing to say. The girl was not raped, but she was sxxually harassed and attempted rape. Forcing a girl who is still in a disability, and moving a girl who has experienced this kind of thing to live alone in another hotel without any staff, and she is isolated and helpless if anything happens. Is this how your company handles it? It's hard not to make people suspect that your motive is to throw her to a non-cooperative hotel, so that no matter what happens in the future, you can get rid of the relationship. Please stop gaslighting, she doesn't pursue the responsibility for the time being because she still doesn't know how to face this kind of thing, he is only an 18-year-old girl, please don't stand on the side of the perpetrator and hurt her again. This girl was only two years older than her rapist's daughter. How could he did such a thing?But not surprised. He immigrant to the UK, in order to obtain legal status quickly, let his wife drop out of school at the age of 16 to conceive and have children, won't be a normal guy😂all the parents know that patients were stabbed by the rapist because of the evidence. If it wasn't for the fact that the company is full of lies trying to cover up the truth, I wouldn't post these.Finally, I would like to paraphrase the words of the victimized 18 year old girl: Lies written in pen and ink cannot cover up facts written in blood.
The link below is videos of the rapist's confession
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132 (https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132)
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851907268 (https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851907268)
Scene of bloodshed
https://imgur.com/a/68yMn7a (https://imgur.com/a/68yMn7a)
During my stay, all the other patients were delightful; it seems I left just in time. Based on your initial post, I assumed an employee of Wannabetaller was involved and all of their employees are great people. You didn't specify that it was actually a patient behind these actions.
For sexual assault, he could face 5-10 years; for attempted homicide or intentional injury, potentially 5+ years. Additional charges like threats, intimidation, and unlawful detention, as mentioned in the video, could lead to an overall sentence of easily 15+ years in prison. I hope no one let this one go unpunished. This individual should not be allowed to return to his country after what he did to that poor woman.
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So I wasn't going to say anything, but this is horrible. I saw the company communicate about what happened with this patient, because she showed me the texts. Whether the company is at fault is irrelevant, and I refuse to comment on that, but she was assaulted TWICE by two different people and multiple of us were either there to confirm it happened or saw the aftermath of the texts. One of these people also assaulted me - In my case the company directly intervened and dealt with the situation, and the employee was fired. This doesn't change the fact it disgusted me and left me feeling unsafe. I appreciate them firing him and taking action, but this is a traumatic event that is entirely separate from everything else you are going through recovery wise. Some of you need to stop gaslighting victims.
No buddy, you weren't sat in the room observing it happen, so you don't actually know what happened. The ALLEGED victim should make a complaint to the police, until that happens then nothing happened at all in the eyes if the law.
During my stay, all the other patients were delightful; it seems I left just in time. Based on your initial post, I assumed an employee of Wannabetaller was involved and all of their employees are great people. You didn't specify that it was actually a patient behind these actions.
For sxxual assault, he could face 5-10 years; for attempted homicide or intentional injury, potentially 5+ years. Additional charges like threats, intimidation, and unlawful detention, as mentioned in the video, could lead to an overall sentence of easily 15+ years in prison. I hope no one let this one go unpunished. This individual should not be allowed to return to his country after what he did to that poor woman.
The fact it wasn't reported and the guy presumably WAS allowed to return home inspite of these allegations casts serious doubt on the women's credibility. Why jump to believe her over him? Women are always lying about this.
No police report and no charges = there is no reason the guy can't go home. And a major reason there'd be no police report is the story was rubbish from the start.
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So I wasn't going to say anything, but this is horrible. I saw the company communicate about what happened with this patient, because she showed me the texts. Whether the company is at fault is irrelevant, and I refuse to comment on that, but she was assaulted TWICE by two different people and multiple of us were either there to confirm it happened or saw the aftermath of the texts. One of these people also assaulted me - In my case the company directly intervened and dealt with the situation, and the employee was fired. This doesn't change the fact it disgusted me and left me feeling unsafe. I appreciate them firing him and taking action, but this is a traumatic event that is entirely separate from everything else you are going through recovery wise. Some of you need to stop gaslighting victims.
Wow, I am deeply sorry for what you've experienced. It's unbelievable how some people can be so cruel/sick, especially during your most vulnerable moments. You mentioned an employee was involved; may I ask who that was? If you'd rather not disclose publicly, you can PM me. I've always believed in the decency of all their employees. I could even vouch for them.
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No buddy, you weren't sat in the room observing it happen, so you don't actually know what happened. The ALLEGED victim should make a complaint to the police, until that happens then nothing happened at all in the eyes if the law.
The fact it wasn't reported and the guy presumably WAS allowed to return home inspite of these allegations casts serious doubt on the women's credibility. Why jump to believe her over him? Women are always lying about this.
No police report and no charges = there is no reason the guy can't go home. And a major reason there'd be no police report is the story was rubbish from the start.
While there are a lot of instances where women lie about sexual assault, there's a video of him apparently confessing. I don't speak Chinese, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of the subtitles. I also don't know if he's a patient or not, but given the evidence, including a photo of her with significant bleeding, it seems quite convincing
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No buddy, you weren't sat in the room observing it happen, so you don't actually know what happened. The ALLEGED victim should make a complaint to the police, until that happens then nothing happened at all in the eyes if the law.
The fact it wasn't reported and the guy presumably WAS allowed to return home inspite of these allegations casts serious doubt on the women's credibility. Why jump to believe her over him? Women are always lying about this.
No police report and no charges = there is no reason the guy can't go home. And a major reason there'd be no police report is the story was rubbish from the start.
No - I only saw the correspondence between her and the company, and for me that was enough to draw a conclusion, along with Seven's confession being posted right here in this thread. I'm not sure what more you'd like. Nothing is alleged, it's all plain for everyone to see here. This is an 18 year old girl whose parents have no idea she's even in Turkey doing this surgery, and you're suggesting she just go to Turkish court to pursue someone while in the middle of a major operation - how laughable is this? I would love for the company to post the entire thread of their responses to and from her, because I read through them. I personally don't blame the company for this happening to her (I wasn't even at the hotel at this time) but to deny it even happened? You disgust me.
There were two separate instances in her case. I was personally involved in the second and was there myself to experience it first hand (he assaulted both her and me). This person abused his authority, and I was led to believe he was punished for it. I'm disheartened to hear from the Quality Control Manager it was only a coincidence he was let go the day the complaints were levied, because I was actually going to give the company props for defending the two of us from him and keeping him out of the hotel. You're either a misogynist, brain dead or both.
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No - I only saw the correspondence between her and the company, and for me that was enough to draw a conclusion, along with Seven's confession being posted right here in this thread. I'm not sure what more you'd like. Nothing is alleged, it's all plain for everyone to see here. This is an 18 year old girl whose parents have no idea she's even in Turkey doing this surgery, and you're suggesting she just go to Turkish court to pursue someone while in the middle of a major operation - how laughable is this? I would love for the company to post the entire thread of their responses to and from her, because I read through them. I personally don't blame the company for this happening to her (I wasn't even at the hotel at this time) but to deny it even happened? You disgust me.
There were two separate instances in her case. I was personally involved in the second and was there myself to experience it first hand (he assaulted both her and me). This person abused his authority, and I was led to believe he was punished for it. I'm disheartened to hear from the Quality Control Manager it was only a coincidence he was let go the day the complaints were levied, because I was actually going to give the company props for defending the two of us from him and keeping him out of the hotel. You're either a misogynist, brain dead or both.
Could you let us know which employee assaulted you and was subsequently fired?
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Wow, I am deeply sorry for what you've experienced. It's unbelievable how some people can be so cruel/sick, especially during your most vulnerable moments. You mentioned an employee was involved; may I ask who that was? If you'd rather not disclose publicly, you can PM me. I've always believed in the decency of all their employees. I could even vouch for them.
He was one of the hospital caretakers originally - he was assigned Rabia's job when she quit and started at the hotel. It's totally possible you didn't interact with him at all, but he was the tall lanky guy with glasses from Iran. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to give out his name, but with that description hopefully you can pinpoint it. Most of the staff are lovely, and I never had any issues at all with anyone else. I trust their physio team and doctor immensely and will probably post my own review shortly. But this is obviously a huge blemish on my experience there.
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No - I only saw the correspondence between her and the company, and for me that was enough to draw a conclusion, along with Seven's confession being posted right here in this thread. I'm not sure what more you'd like. Nothing is alleged, it's all plain for everyone to see here. This is an 18 year old girl whose parents have no idea she's even in Turkey doing this surgery, and you're suggesting she just go to Turkish court to pursue someone while in the middle of a major operation - how laughable is this? I would love for the company to post the entire thread of their responses to and from her, because I read through them. I personally don't blame the company for this happening to her (I wasn't even at the hotel at this time) but to deny it even happened? You disgust me.
There were two separate instances in her case, and I WAS involved in the second and was there myself to experience it first hand. This person abused his authority, and I was led to believe he was punished for it. I'm disheartened to hear from the Quality Control Manager it was only a coincidence he was let go the day the complaints were levied, because I was actually going to give the company props for defending the two of us from him and keeping him out of the hotel. You're either a misogynist, brain dead or both.
Thankfully, the "evidence" being enough to convince you (a video with language you don't understand, made under conditions you also don't understand, and some text messages) doesn't particularly matter, this is why we have courts and laws.
Yes, I do suggest she go to the police. No, it's not "laughable", foreigners report crimes in countries all the time especially serious allegations like this. What else would you suggest, the police just lock the guy up because you personally deem the one-sided story you've been given to be compelling? (Have you spoken to the guy to ask his side? Have you hell!). Of course the guy returned home - he's done nothing wrong.
If it happened in a hotel there'd presumably be CCTV evidence in the lobbies and outside the rooms, so start by checking that out. Was the alleged victim being nice and receptive to the alleged perpetrator beforehand? Did she willingly let him in her room alone at the time of the alleged incident, or was there a struggle? If there was no struggle, again it's doubtful - every girl and guy knows what it means when you go to someone else's room alone in a hotel.
She's an adult, not a kid, and all this would take is a couple if hours down at a police station to report this alongside your evidence if it was true. Disabled or not, there's no reason that couldn't be done - if it was true of course.
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He was one of the hospital caretakers originally - he was assigned Rabia's job when she quit and started at the hotel. It's totally possible you didn't interact with him at all, but he was the tall lanky guy with glasses from Iran. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to give out his name, but with that description hopefully you can pinpoint it. Most of the staff are lovely, and I never had any issues at all with anyone else. I trust their physio team and doctor immensely and will probably post my own review shortly. But this is obviously a huge blemish on my experience there.
Oh, I'm not familiar with him. It would be shocking if it were someone I knew. I recall discussing the issue of sexual assaults with Rabia; she mentioned that similar incidents had happened a few times before. She had suggested that Wannabetaller should implement precautions. One idea was distributing a brochure to patients, ensuring they comprehend the severity of sexual assault. In Turkey, it's considered as grave as intentional injury and can result in a 5-10 year prison sentence, potentially longer with additional charges as I mentioned above.
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No buddy, you weren't sat in the room observing it happen, so you don't actually know what happened. The ALLEGED victim should make a complaint to the police, until that happens then nothing happened at all in the eyes if the law.
The fact it wasn't reported and the guy presumably WAS allowed to return home inspite of these allegations casts serious doubt on the women's credibility. Why jump to believe her over him? Women are always lying about this.
No police report and no charges = there is no reason the guy can't go home. And a major reason there'd be no police report is the story was rubbish from the start.
Don't you know that it is very difficult to defend rights in a foreign country when you are disabled and cannot speak the language? I can fully understand the helplessness of that girl, because I also experienced it last year. The company, for its own reputation, I will put all the blame on the patient, spread rumors about the patient, and even ask the local police to arrest the patient, because the patient cannot speak the native language, so they can spread rumors with the police. Fortunately, I found a Turkish friend and explained everything to the police.
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Yep, soy paladin riding in on his white horse defending m'lady, because no women would ever lie would they, tons of you losers out there, get fked. I'll wait for the guy to be convicted by a real court instead of some metoo believe all women male feminist soyboy, thanks. Until then, he's innocent. No complaint appears to have been lodged, white knights like you will convince yourselves it's because of 'trauma', but it could also easily be because she's a liar (just like many women in this exact scenario) and has no intention of having the court go over her pack of lies and find them out.
Either way, it's got fk all to do with the company whether the woman is a liar, or the guy is a rapist. They're a leg lengthening company, not a court or a mediation service.
A big welcome for the rapist himself :D :D :D
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Thankfully, the "evidence" being enough to convince you (a video with language you don't understand, made under conditions you also don't understand, and some text messages) doesn't particularly matter, this is why we have courts and laws.
Yes, I do suggest she go to the police. No, it's not "laughable", foreigners report crimes in countries all the time especially serious allegations like this. What else would you suggest, the police just lock the guy up because you personally deem the one-sided story you've been given to be compelling? (Have you spoken to the guy to ask his side? Have you hell!). Of course the guy returned home - he's done nothing wrong.
If it happened in a hotel there'd presumably be CCTV evidence in the lobbies and outside the rooms, so start by checking that out. Was the alleged victim being nice and receptive to the alleged perpetrator beforehand? Did she willingly let him in her room alone at the time of the alleged incident, or was there a struggle? If there was no struggle, again it's doubtful - every girl and guy knows what it means when you go to someone else's room alone in a hotel.
She's an adult, not a kid, and all this would take is a couple if hours down at a police station to report this alongside your evidence if it was true. Disabled or not, there's no reason that couldn't be done - if it was true of course.
From your words, I can judge that you are also a rapist, and you are well-trained. You know how to use women's weaknesses to escape legal sanctions. You are just a garbage man from a garbage country.
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Don't you know that it is very difficult to defend rights in a foreign country when you are disabled and cannot speak the language? I can fully understand the helplessness of that girl, because I also experienced it last year. The company, for its own reputation, I will put all the blame on the patient, spread rumors about the patient, and even ask the local police to arrest the patient, because the patient cannot speak the native language, so they can spread rumors with the police. Fortunately, I found a Turkish friend and explained everything to the police.
I'm sorry, but your statements seem biased and rather extreme. Do you realize how serious "defamation" is? It could tarnish your reputation, making it difficult to secure a decent job, and could lead to a prison sentence of 2+ years. No employee would risk lying to the police for a salary of $1k. None of the Wannabetaller employees would engage in such ugly behavior.
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There are so many ty things happening in this dog company, and it is improving year by year. I am looking forward to what will happen next year.......
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Don't you know that it is very difficult to defend rights in a foreign country when you are disabled and cannot speak the language? I can fully understand the helplessness of that girl, because I also experienced it last year. The company, for its own reputation, I will put all the blame on the patient, spread rumors about the patient, and even ask the local police to arrest the patient, because the patient cannot speak the native language, so they can spread rumors with the police. Fortunately, I found a Turkish friend and explained everything to the police.
No, I don't 'know that it's very difficult' and neither do you, since you've never made a police report of this severity either. One thing I'm sure Turkey does have in common with every other nation on the planet however is that you don't need a big expensive lawyer to report a crime - you just go to the police station or ring the equivalent of 911 in Turkey and they'll send someone out. No, being disabled isn't much of an excuse, all patients, weightbearing and non-weightbearing, possess the ability to get in a taxi and go to the police station - most of them even possess the ability to board a plane and fly home! Not speaking the language - again, I'm pretty sure in Istanbul they'll have English/Turkish translation services available, whether at the police station itself or available for a small hourly fee.
If you maintain that making a police report is somehow impossible, are you seriously suggesting that WBT illegally detain the guy in a basement or something to prevent him flying home? That the police lock him up without trial (or even a report!)? WBT to cut the guy off to services that he paid for and that they're contractually obligated to perform because of an unproven allegation? What exactly do you expect to happen in a situation where the alleged victim doesn't make a police report?
From your words, I can judge that you are also a rapist, and you are well-trained. You know how to use women's weaknesses to escape legal sanctions. You are just a garbage man from a garbage country.
- Man asks for actual evidence and due process before throwing the book at someone.
- WAAAAAAH, BUT MUH WOMENZ RIGHTS.
Kill yourself, unironically.
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I'm sorry, but your statements seem biased and rather extreme. Do you realize how serious "defamation" is? It could tarnish your reputation, making it difficult to secure a decent job, and could lead to a prison sentence of 2+ years. No employee would risk lying to the police for a salary of $1k. None of the Wannabetaller employees would engage in such ugly behavior.
Is slander a crime? I don't think that if slander is a crime, the first person to go to jail is the owner of the company
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Look at the face of the Turkish medical illiterate black intermediary who treated me into chronic osteomyelitis!
I really should thank you for treating me in the least harmful way to my body, which has caused a huge price now!
If the barefoot doctors and nurses in the black intermediary in Turkey understand the importance of debridement, my leg can be healed when the broken bone is still infected in the soft tissue in the early stage, and I don’t need to take intramedullary needles, and I won’t get osteomyelitis, let alone chronic bone marrow inflammation. But when I told the Turkish agency for the first time that my broken bone was bulging, painful and had a fever, all of them didn't know to debride the wound! I just told me to take antibiotics and carry it until pus, osteomyelitis was diagnosed and chronic osteomyelitis was diagnosed. The black intermediary in Turkey still said that I was not serious and did not need debridement and refused to change doctors other than yunus to treat me, so they gave up. I don't care!
They call infection, osteomyelitis, and chronic osteomyelitis serious surgical complications! Most people can only accept the complications of bending the knees and hanging the feet, which can recover on their own with time. Who can accept that osteomyelitis is also a complication? The complications are fine, but you have treated the complications into a serious and terminal illness, and you still don’t admit it or reflect on it?
What's more ridiculous is that they also said that if the patient is treated, it will cause losses to the company, but the patient's leg amputation will not cause losses to the company, so you chose to let the patient survive, right?
It is also weird to say that treating me will be unfair to other patients who spend their own money for treatment. What kind of logic is this? Most patients help each other, which is not as narrow as your black intermediary! Taking the matter of human life at stake is more fair than the black intermediary's idea! The main reason is that the barefoot doctors of black intermediaries have done too many bad things to patients, so they simply put them badly, and even brainwash patients with complications, which should be treated by the patients themselves! If I hadn’t returned to China for treatment at that time, I would have stayed in Turkey to popularize the division of medical responsibilities with you legal illiterates. Even if there are 10 patients who have problems due to surgery with you, you have to be responsible to the end, which is reasonable and legal!
Originally, even if the barefoot doctors of black intermediaries in Turkey have rich clinical experience in medicine, no matter how to avoid all possible emergencies during and after surgery, patients can suffer a lot less! They can also reduce after-sales costs! But those medically illiterate barefoot doctors and nurses simply don't know how to avoid and treat potential risks! They will only rush to end their after-sales service in a way of shirking blame! They don't care what consequences chronic osteomyelitis will bring to the patient, anyway, not to let the company lose is more important than curing the patient's leg! I think they took advantage of the Chinese people's inability to stay in Turkey for a long time to protect their rights, so they have no fear!
I suggest to black intermediaries in Turkey that if your service ends when the patient leaves your hotel, please inform the patient when you charge the operation fee. Don’t make excuses saying that the patient cannot be tracked after leaving your hotel. It is your mobile phone that can only fool you. Can't customers return to old customers? The patient contacted you in the early stage because you lacked medical knowledge and even did not know how to debride the wound, and said that there is no need to cause the infection to deteriorate into osteomyelitis or chronic osteomyelitis. After all, this is not an operation that means success after an extension, nor is it an operation that can be recovered smoothly after an extension of 3 or 6 months! This is an operation that requires professional medical personnel to support and ensure that the patient can walk smoothly in the end, but the black intermediary in Turkey has successfully made it a one-shot deal with zero guarantee and zero rights protection after retail sale! Then how to maintain the business, it all depends on whitewashing and fooling around!
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Is slander a crime? I don't think that if slander is a crime, the first person to go to jail is the owner of the company
I'm truly sorry for what happened to you and hope you recover soon. Yes, defamation/slander are considered crimes around the world, especially in Turkey. Depending on the severity, it can lead to several years in prison
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Wannabetaller, a dark intermediary for heightening bones in Turkey, has really turned the medical beauty channel into a Gongdou drama, a producer of Gongdou drama, and a harvester for brain-dead fans. I have been in Turkey for a year and a half every day, and I can see w's staff, including patients, attack the other two institutions, afa and Livelifetaller, as well as their own victims who have been smeared and attacked. Anyone who is exposed will be attacked! Some patients in W kneel and lick to please the attention of W bloggers! At that time, it was because all the victims of W quit the circle, and only the officials and patients were left there to clean up, so they successfully cleansed up and attracted our group of people! Rights protection has long been abandoned. W is not the kind of channel with a bottom line. I know them too well. Not only will they not admit their mistakes, but they will conversely fabricate lies and bite the victims! I just stood up as a victim of w's experience, but the brainless fans said that I was an employee of afa! Before I had surgery, I started to kneel and lick W! If I want to blackmail and make a lot of money, it's easy, but I don't want others to be crippled like me and be smeared and threatened by w's boss! In the same batch, a patient had 4 precise operations on her thigh and almost died. W asked her to get people to rebate as compensation, but she refused. After the operation, she was threatened and abused by w and brain-dead fans. She washed her face with tears every day, and was forced by w. Depression was still hospitalized a few days ago! There is also that 83, who was also attacked by w and brain-dead fans and became mentally disturbed. Only W can be happy!
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No, I don't 'know that it's very difficult' and neither do you, since you've never made a police report of this severity either. One thing I'm sure Turkey does have in common with every other nation on the planet however is that you don't need a big expensive lawyer to report a crime - you just go to the police station or ring the equivalent of 911 in Turkey and they'll send someone out. No, being disabled isn't much of an excuse, all patients, weightbearing and non-weightbearing, possess the ability to get in a taxi and go to the police station - most of them even possess the ability to board a plane and fly home! Not speaking the language - again, I'm pretty sure in Istanbul they'll have English/Turkish translation services available, whether at the police station itself or available for a small hourly fee.
If you maintain that making a police report is somehow impossible, are you seriously suggesting that WBT illegally detain the guy in a basement or something to prevent him flying home? That the police lock him up without trial (or even a report!)? WBT to cut the guy off to services that he paid for and that they're contractually obligated to perform because of an unproven allegation? What exactly do you expect to happen in a situation where the alleged victim doesn't make a police report?
- Man asks for actual evidence and due process before throwing the book at someone.
- WAAAAAAH, BUT MUH WOMENZ RIGHTS.
Kill yourself, unironically.
Hello, Mr. rapist, I have provided evidence. It's time for you to present the evidence.
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Hello, Mr. rapist, I have provided evidence. It's time for you to present the evidence.
Hello soyboy virgin, you've provided absolutely nothing. A link to a video that no one can watch unless they're 'logged in' (and I'm certainly not making an account on an unknown website to do so), and a picture of some blood on a lobby floor that could have been for any reason (plus, if this attack happened in the lobby, they'll be CCTV evidence of it, so should be an easy case, get the records and get yourself down to the police station then).
I don't need to present any evidence since the one making the allegations is the one who needs to provide the proof.
My advice remains the same: kill yourself.
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Hello soyboy virgin, you've provided absolutely nothing. A link to a video that no one can watch unless they're 'logged in' (and I'm certainly not making an account on an unknown website to do so), and a picture of some blood on a lobby floor that could have been for any reason (plus, if this attack happened in the lobby, they'll be CCTV evidence of it, so should be an easy case, get the records and get yourself down to the police station then).
I don't need to present any evidence since the one making the allegations is the one who needs to provide the proof.
My advice remains the same: kill yourself.
Hello soyboy virgin, you've provided absolutely nothing. A link to a video that no one can watch unless they're 'logged in' (and I'm certainly not making an account on an unknown website to do so), and a picture of some blood on a lobby floor that could have been for any reason (plus, if this attack happened in the lobby, they'll be CCTV evidence of it, so should be an easy case, get the records and get yourself down to the police station then).
I don't need to present any evidence since the one making the allegations is the one who needs to provide the proof.
My advice remains the same: kill yourself.
Hello, Mr. Rapist, your suggestion, your wife and daughter can consider it.
A dog from an inferior dog country doesn’t even know how to register an account. If you can’t see it, it doesn’t exist. This is very humorous. Is this the theory of dogs? ;D ;D ;D
You can take a pee and take a picture of yourself. You are fat, old, and ugly. Why do you say an 18-year-old girl seduces a pig like you? If I looked like you, I would kill myself. :'( :'( :'(
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It's so funny that corporations have started working with rapists for their own benefit. … :D :D :D
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I am going to turkey to undergo to my surgery, I do not care about the risks, I'm already dead with my currently height.
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Thankfully, the "evidence" being enough to convince you (a video with language you don't understand, made under conditions you also don't understand, and some text messages) doesn't particularly matter, this is why we have courts and laws.
Yes, I do suggest she go to the police. No, it's not "laughable", foreigners report crimes in countries all the time especially serious allegations like this. What else would you suggest, the police just lock the guy up because you personally deem the one-sided story you've been given to be compelling? (Have you spoken to the guy to ask his side? Have you hell!). Of course the guy returned home - he's done nothing wrong.
If it happened in a hotel there'd presumably be CCTV evidence in the lobbies and outside the rooms, so start by checking that out. Was the alleged victim being nice and receptive to the alleged perpetrator beforehand? Did she willingly let him in her room alone at the time of the alleged incident, or was there a struggle? If there was no struggle, again it's doubtful - every girl and guy knows what it means when you go to someone else's room alone in a hotel.
She's an adult, not a kid, and all this would take is a couple if hours down at a police station to report this alongside your evidence if it was true. Disabled or not, there's no reason that couldn't be done - if it was true of course.
In our country, the definition of an adult is 19 years old. Are you from the dog country, did you become an adult when you were a fertilized egg?
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I am going to turkey to undergo to my surgery, I do not care about the risks, I'm already dead with my currently height.
You'll prob regret saying that when you permanently cant walk. Why not go for South Africa, which is much cheaper than the States but still pretty safe.
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Hello, Mr. Rapist, your suggestion, your wife and daughter can consider it.
A dog from an inferior dog country doesn’t even know how to register an account. If you can’t see it, it doesn’t exist. This is very humorous. Is this the theory of dogs? ;D ;D ;D
You can take a pee and take a picture of yourself. You are fat, old, and ugly. Why do you say an 18-year-old girl seduces a pig like you? If I looked like you, I would kill myself. :'( :'( :'(
Hello soyboy virgin, I don't feel the need to create an account to see someone's video. It's your job to make the evidence easily accessible if you want us to take you seriously.
I'm taller than you, more handsome than you, and get more women than you (which isn't hard, as you've never had sex in your life). Keep flying the flag for your queens in the hope one will reward you with a crumb of pussy one day.
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It's so interesting that a male animal who claims to be tall and handsome appeared on this forum ;D ;D ;D
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Hello soyboy virgin, I don't feel the need to create an account to see someone's video. It's your job to make the evidence easily accessible if you want us to take you seriously.
I'm taller than you, more handsome than you, and get more women than you (which isn't hard, as you've never had sxx in your life). Keep flying the flag for your queens in the hope one will reward you with a crumb of pussy one day.
Animals can indeed mate with more members of the opposite sxx ;D ;D ;D
Mating with countless opposite sxxes is the task of an animal, and as a human being, I have a lot of work to do.
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You'll prob regret saying that when you permanently cant walk. Why not go for South Africa, which is much cheaper than the States but still pretty safe.
Turkey ranks fifth globally in cosmetic surgeries. To get into a medical school there, students must ace the entrance test taken by 2 million people annually. This test is like ten times harder than the SAT; in comparison, the SAT seems trivial. You can easily find these test questions with a quick online search. The correlation coefficient between the SAT and IQ is 0.82, suggesting a strong correlation between the university entrance exam and IQ. This means that these medical doctors have a really high IQs. It's unfair to defame Turkish doctors; they are highly skilled, nearly on par with American doctors. If they had stopped offering the LON method, the risk of infections would be nearly zero, but then the majority wouldn't have access to this procedure.
If the infection occurred during the operation, the patient would be justified in accusing the doctor and Wannabetaller. But as far as I understand, the Chinese patient developed an infection weeks after the surgery. She was Dr. Yuksel Yurttas's patient and didn't even stay at Wannabetaller's facility. When Dr. Yurttas refused to treat her, Dr. Yunus agreed to see her, even though she wasn't originally his patient. The lower leg is susceptible to infection due to its thin tissue. I've personally witnessed someone touch and poke the pin sites with bare fingers. Imagine if that person blamed the company or nurse for an infection. Fortunately, he didn't contract one, but he frequently fiddled with his wounds. Once, he even removed the bandages and waited a day.
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Turkey ranks fifth globally in cosmetic surgeries. To get into a medical school there, students must ace the entrance test taken by 2 million people annually. This test is like ten times harder than the SAT; in comparison, the SAT seems trivial. You can easily find these test questions with a quick online search. The correlation coefficient between the SAT and IQ is 0.82, suggesting a strong correlation between the university entrance exam and IQ. This means that these medical doctors have a really high IQs. It's unfair to defame Turkish doctors; they are highly skilled, nearly on par with American doctors. If they had stopped offering the LON method, the risk of infections would be nearly zero, but then the majority wouldn't have access to this procedure.
If the infection occurred during the operation, the patient would be justified in accusing the doctor and Wannabetaller. But as far as I understand, the Chinese patient developed an infection weeks after the surgery. She was Dr. Yuksel Yurttas's patient and didn't even stay at Wannabetaller's facility. When Dr. Yurttas refused to treat her, Dr. Yunus agreed to see her, even though she wasn't originally his patient. The lower leg is susceptible to infection due to its thin tissue. I've personally witnessed someone touch and poke the pin sites with bare fingers. Imagine if that person blamed the company or nurse for an infection. Fortunately, he didn't contract one, but he frequently fiddled with his wounds. Once, he even removed the bandages and waited a day.
I admit that yunus is a good doctor and the physiotherapists are friendly, but the management of the company is a bunch of rubbish.
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Animals can indeed mate with more members of the opposite sxx ;D ;D ;D
Mating with countless opposite sxxes is the task of an animal, and as a human being, I need to manage many companies. 8)
Yep, you're a cubiclecuck beta grinding for paper tokens while genetically superior men like myself impregnate the women you wish you could get. Makes sense.
Here's my diagnosis: you, as a sexually frustrated loser, were trying to get into this girls pants. She obviously rejected you like every other woman you've ever spoke to has. Later, she hooked up with this guy, and willingly let him fk her. However he didn't wanna commit to her (see, your sweetheart queen, is just another hole for this guy), and so she came crying to you, her nice beta 'friend' (and that's all you'll ever be) and then you came here flying the flag for her on this forum like a good cuck.
See, male feminists and soyboys like you, get absolutely 0 pussy wet. Keep seething in loneliness.
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Yep, you're a cubiclecuck beta grinding for paper tokens while genetically superior men like myself impregnate the women you wish you could get. Makes sense.
Here's my diagnosis: you, as a sxxually frustrated loser, were trying to get into this girls pants. She obviously rejected you like every other woman you've ever spoke to has. Later, she hooked up with this guy, and willingly let him fk her. However he didn't wanna commit to her (see, your sweetheart queen, is just another hole for this guy), and so she came crying to you, her nice beta 'friend' (and that's all you'll ever be) and then you came here flying the flag for her on this forum like a good cuck.
See, male feminists and soyboys like you, get absolutely 0 pussy wet. Keep seething in loneliness.
The brains of animals are very active. When I feel bored, there are always animals who say non-human words and make me laugh out loud. ;D ;D . My son has started soy sauce, the animals are still mating,Don't get AIDS, Mr. Rapist ;) ;)
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Why turkey is not safe?
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This dude did his surgery on turkey and he is very happy, I talked with him and he seeems to be a honest person, so I go to turkey, lets see what is going to happen.
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It's so interesting that a male animal who claims to be tall and handsome appeared on this forum ;D ;D ;D
Let me tell you a joke, a man who claimed to be tall and handsome came to the limb lengthening surgery forum, is he too tall and wants to shorten it? Or can someone smart tell me why?
Why would a dog take pride in its ability to own a lower animal? Can someone smart break it down for me?
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This is my conversation with two other Turkish Wannabetaller (step by step) patients. All three of us developed pain and infection at the broken bone after the frame was removed. A boy patient was removed on the same day as me on April 4, 2022, and another girl patient was removed a month later. I had swelling, pain and infection at the broken bone on July 8, 2022. The boy had swelling and pain on August 7, and the girl had swelling and pain at the broken bone on August 26. They stayed in the black intermediary hotel for 3 months before returning to China. , because the boy's leg was extremely painful after the frame was disassembled, and the girl was severely suspended with knee valgus and foot varus, because the physiotherapist of the Turkish black intermediary was poor and did not improve, so she had to stay in the hotel for surgery to correct it! Fortunately, they returned to China when they became infected. Domestic doctors knew that debridement was needed at first glance. They were all diagnosed with soft tissue infections, and the debridement was completed before osteomyelitis occurred. The doctors all thought that we were infected from the inside because we were not sterilized well during the operation. On August 28, I was infected for almost 2 months. The girl wanted to help me very much. She kept reminding me to persuade the Turkish black intermediary doctor yunus to debride me, or change doctors for treatment, and the doctor yunus of Wannabetaller (step by step) has always been Think I'm not serious and don't need debridement! Until September 1, 2022, the last time I saw Yunus, he still said my wound was fine, even though it had not healed, he still said that there was no need for treatment, but my diagnosis became chronic osteomyelitis! The black intermediary also said that chronic osteomyelitis is fine, and there will be no problems in the future! Unexpectedly, after another 2 months, I changed positions and relapsed, slapping my face! I have suffered in vain in Turkey, and I will continue to suffer when I return home. I have suffered for the past year! Wear a ring too! This medically illiterate black intermediary does not compensate and is not responsible, but still makes up black me behind my back.
https://pica.zhimg.com/80/v2-7e7b5bb36eed20f3629af8c63e04de49_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b (https://pica.zhimg.com/80/v2-7e7b5bb36eed20f3629af8c63e04de49_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b)
https://picx.zhimg.com/80/v2-37119944866e122116418d1e404f01d7_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b (https://picx.zhimg.com/80/v2-37119944866e122116418d1e404f01d7_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b)
https://picx.zhimg.com/80/v2-baf3881726786e52c965b9c70b86f837_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b (https://picx.zhimg.com/80/v2-baf3881726786e52c965b9c70b86f837_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b)
https://picx.zhimg.com/v2-a302baf4074ba885b9e6bb10640b6858_720w.jpg?source=d16d100b (https://picx.zhimg.com/v2-a302baf4074ba885b9e6bb10640b6858_720w.jpg?source=d16d100b)
https://pic1.zhimg.com/80/v2-d3d50fa599a8072b8d5c29b3690eb186_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b (https://pic1.zhimg.com/80/v2-d3d50fa599a8072b8d5c29b3690eb186_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b)
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This is my conversation with two other Turkish Wannabetaller (step by step) patients. All three of us developed pain and infection at the broken bone after the frame was removed. A boy patient was removed on the same day as me on April 4, 2022, and another girl patient was removed a month later. I had swelling, pain and infection at the broken bone on July 8, 2022. The boy had swelling and pain on August 7, and the girl had swelling and pain at the broken bone on August 26. They stayed in the black intermediary hotel for 3 months before returning to China. , because the boy's leg was extremely painful after the frame was disassembled, and the girl was severely suspended with knee valgus and foot varus, because the physiotherapist of the Turkish black intermediary was poor and did not improve, so she had to stay in the hotel for surgery to correct it! Fortunately, they returned to China when they became infected. Domestic doctors knew that debridement was needed at first glance. They were all diagnosed with soft tissue infections, and the debridement was completed before osteomyelitis occurred. The doctors all thought that we were infected from the inside because we were not sterilized well during the operation. On August 28, I was infected for almost 2 months. The girl wanted to help me very much. She kept reminding me to persuade the Turkish black intermediary doctor yunus to debride me, or change doctors for treatment, and the doctor yunus of Wannabetaller (step by step) has always been Think I'm not serious and don't need debridement! Until September 1, 2022, the last time I saw Yunus, he still said my wound was fine, even though it had not healed, he still said that there was no need for treatment, but my diagnosis became chronic osteomyelitis! The black intermediary also said that chronic osteomyelitis is fine, and there will be no problems in the future! Unexpectedly, after another 2 months, I changed positions and relapsed, slapping my face! I have suffered in vain in Turkey, and I will continue to suffer when I return home. I have suffered for the past year! Wear a ring too! This medically illiterate black intermediary does not compensate and is not responsible, but still makes up black me behind my back.
https://pica.zhimg.com/80/v2-7e7b5bb36eed20f3629af8c63e04de49_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b (https://pica.zhimg.com/80/v2-7e7b5bb36eed20f3629af8c63e04de49_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b)
https://picx.zhimg.com/80/v2-37119944866e122116418d1e404f01d7_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b (https://picx.zhimg.com/80/v2-37119944866e122116418d1e404f01d7_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b)
https://picx.zhimg.com/80/v2-baf3881726786e52c965b9c70b86f837_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b (https://picx.zhimg.com/80/v2-baf3881726786e52c965b9c70b86f837_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b)
https://picx.zhimg.com/v2-a302baf4074ba885b9e6bb10640b6858_720w.jpg?source=d16d100b (https://picx.zhimg.com/v2-a302baf4074ba885b9e6bb10640b6858_720w.jpg?source=d16d100b)
https://pic1.zhimg.com/80/v2-d3d50fa599a8072b8d5c29b3690eb186_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b (https://pic1.zhimg.com/80/v2-d3d50fa599a8072b8d5c29b3690eb186_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b)
What Do you think about live life taller?
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the most part of gripes about operations on turkey are about infections. I have seen many x-ray from livelifetaller and I like the position of the screws and the alignment of the nails. It is not possible that they cripple everyone who made a surgery there.
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What Do you think about live life taller?
There are also failure cases, but it is much better than wannabetaller
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It's so interesting that a male animal who claims to be tall and handsome appeared on this forum ;D ;D ;D
Let me tell you a joke, a man who claimed to be tall and handsome came to the limb lengthening surgery forum, is he too tall and wants to shorten it? Or can someone smart tell me why?
Why would a dog take pride in its ability to own a lower animal? Can someone smart break it down for me?
This is the quality of the idiot fans who maintain wannabetaller.
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It's so interesting that a male animal who claims to be tall and handsome appeared on this forum ;D ;D ;D
Let me tell you a joke, a man who claimed to be tall and handsome came to the limb lengthening surgery forum, is he too tall and wants to shorten it? Or can someone smart tell me why?
Why would a dog take pride in its ability to own a lower animal? Can someone smart break it down for me?
Here's the reason you soyboy virgin: I've already done LL, and so now I am tall, well reasonably so in any case. My specific claim was that I was taller than you: again, not so difficult, given you're a manlet, ugly, feminist, soy paladin white knighting for a girl who won't fk you.
This is the quality of the idiot fans who maintain wannabetaller.
I'm not a fan of any of these clinics, I certainly didn't do my LL in any of them and have no doubt there's a lot of botched surgeries given the sheer volume of patients they get through each year. Plenty of horror stories on this forum of stuff that is ACTUALLY concerning like bone infections, non unions etc.
What I am saying though - and it's ONLY this - a dispute between two patients, who happen to be getting LL with the same company, is not that company's problem.
Let me try break it down for those who aren't following one last time: lets say you go to Walmart, and buy a laptop computer. There's another guy in the same shop, also buying a laptop computer. You later, on the street, get into an argument with this guy and end up in a fight. Is that Walmart's problem? Is that a stain on their reputation? Should they be playing judge and jury and deciding that one of you doesn't get your laptop because of your bad behaviour despite that's it's already paid for and they don't know who is at fault?
Obviously not - they'd deliver both laptops and advise you to discuss this altercation on the street with the police if you feel so inclined. Which is exactly what's happened here - WBT has delivered the services to both patients they're contractually obligated to and told both of them to discuss the matter with the police if they want to pursue the complaint. End of story, WBT isn't a court or mediation service, it's a limb lengthening clinic in the business of selling limb lengthening surgeries.
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Sorry, Mr. Rapist, first of all, I am not interested in the natural abilities of animals. Secondly, it is also very interesting that some beasts equate sexual assault with shopping, thanks to the brain circuits of lower animals, Wonderful!!!
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Here's the reason you soyboy virgin: I've already done LL, and so now I am tall, well reasonably so in any case. My specific claim was that I was taller than you: again, not so difficult, given you're a manlet, ugly, feminist, soy paladin white knighting for a girl who won't fk you.
I'm not a fan of any of these clinics, I certainly didn't do my LL in any of them and have no doubt there's a lot of botched surgeries given the sheer volume of patients they get through each year. Plenty of horror stories on this forum of stuff that is ACTUALLY concerning like bone infections, non unions etc.
What I am saying though - and it's ONLY this - a dispute between two patients, who happen to be getting LL with the same company, is not that company's problem.
Let me try break it down for those who aren't following one last time: lets say you go to Walmart, and buy a laptop computer. There's another guy in the same shop, also buying a laptop computer. You later, on the street, get into an argument with this guy and end up in a fight. Is that Walmart's problem? Is that a stain on their reputation? Should they be playing judge and jury and deciding that one of you doesn't get your laptop because of your bad behaviour despite that's it's already paid for and they don't know who is at fault?
Obviously not - they'd deliver both laptops and advise you to discuss this altercation on the street with the police if you feel so inclined. Which is exactly what's happened here - WBT has delivered the services to both patients they're contractually obligated to and told both of them to discuss the matter with the police if they want to pursue the complaint. End of story, WBT isn't a court or mediation service, it's a limb lengthening clinic in the business of selling limb lengthening surgeries.
That's okay, I'll expose mine, you guys continue..
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"First of al :), I'm not...a fan" ;D, "I'm a neutral person" ;),"i'm rational", it's too classic, a classic term for a fan of brains :) ;) :D
https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132
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It was not until 2 years later that she found out that her bones were not united. This kind of P-nails mostly happened in WannaBeTaller....
https://picx.zhimg.com/80/v2-cac749f974d973eef9782fbbb60530a0_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b (https://picx.zhimg.com/80/v2-cac749f974d973eef9782fbbb60530a0_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b)
I found that most of the parties felt that it was useless to speak out, so they considered themselves unlucky and treated them silently. As far as I know, the 20 patients who had problems after WBT surgery in Turkey must be just the tip of the iceberg. Don't listen to those Turk hospital scalper Survivor Deviation hype, I can't wait to shoot THEM!
https://picx.zhimg.com/80/v2-125c1731b587ed1629f3ea7031c1e08e_1440w.webp?source=d16d100b
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https://www.instagram.com/wannabetaller_victim/
https://www.instagram.com/wannabetaller_disabled_me/
www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=79700.0
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There is one thing I want to emphasize : It's attemped rape and indecent assault. Some dog don't say that girl sex with the rapist on purpose plz. https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132
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There is one thing I want to emphasize : It's attemped rape and indecent assault. Some dog don't say that girl sxx with the rapist on purpose plz. https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/851901132
She's not going to fk you, soyboy, no matter how long you white knight on here for.
The overwhelming majority of patients on this forum and for LL in general are male and so this simply isn't a big concern regardless.
Wah wah wah, muh rape, keep crying. Think you're just bitter the guy fked the pussy that you wanted, lol.
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Yep, you're a cubiclecuck beta grinding for paper tokens while genetically superior men like myself impregnate the women you wish you could get. Makes sense.
Here's my diagnosis: you, as a sxxually frustrated loser, were trying to get into this girls pants. She obviously rejected you like every other woman you've ever spoke to has. Later, she hooked up with this guy, and willingly let him fk her. However he didn't wanna commit to her (see, your sweetheart queen, is just another hole for this guy), and so she came crying to you, her nice beta 'friend' (and that's all you'll ever be) and then you came here flying the flag for her on this forum like a good cuck.
See, male feminists and soyboys like you, get absolutely 0 pussy wet. Keep seething in loneliness.
Dude, My appreciation is beyond expression. you're so smart, she really came to seduce me, after all I have a big dck,around 3 cm, I posted a picture, expecting you to attach yours🤜🏻🤛🏻Doubtlessly,girls like mature men like me, more attractive
(https://i.imgur.com/rO117YN.jpg)
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Dude, My appreciation is beyond expression. you're so smart, she really came to seduce me, after all I have a big dck,around 3 cm, I posted a picture, expecting you to attach yours🤜🏻🤛🏻Doubtlessly,girls like mature men like me, more attractive
(https://i.imgur.com/rO117YN.jpg)
Really good handsome ah, that I really can't compare you, I admit that in front of you I am a clown, ashamed
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This dude did his surgery on turkey and he is very happy, I talked with him and he seeems to be a honest person, so I go to turkey, lets see what is going to happen.
I think overall turkey is safe. I trust some doctors and for the most part the Turkish people are kind it's all about picking the right LL company. Choose the right one and your time here will be fantastic but choose a bad company you probably still get your height gain but will be really boring and a lot harder due to many issues constantly coming up.
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This forum is getting very rotten
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This forum is getting very rotten
Yes it is getting off topic a little. Just wanted to warn people stay away from WBT as it is a very poorly run and dishonest company.
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Yes it is getting off topic a little. Just wanted to warn people stay away from WBT as it is a very poorly run and dishonest company.
I believe on WBT because these dude did two surgeries there, and he approves WBT, I spoke with him with no complaints about turkey clinics. So to me in this forum there is much financial interest involve with people who obtain a lot of money with this kind of expensive surgery, that is my guess, take a mind that all surgery has theirs risks, so even Paley can make someone cripple or dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7_hmt8mvic&t=6s
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I have meet that guy at the hotel nice guy impressive journey. I agree with you if you want to come to turkey for surgery use the doctor with WBT as I trust him 100% with my legs but I just wouldn't use the hotel service as currently is very poor but in saying that maybe in like 6 months could be good if the hotel and WBT puts in some investment things could get a lot better.
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Why are you choosing to share the videos concerning the female patient here, instead of presenting them to the court? This approach is not correct. Such videos should be presented to a lawyer or prosecutor.
"In fact, forums are places where competitors criticize each other, and real patient reviews get mixed with fictitious ones, creating a risk of falling into the trap of manipulated information while trying to access accurate information. For this reason, as a principle, I prefer not to engage in discussions on forums. However, this time, I want to intervene because I feel a responsibility toward the company, the employees, and all our patients who return home with fulfilled dreams."
Things are unfolding just as I predicted, aren't they? Unidentified individuals, who may not even be patients, allegations unrelated to the company, and mutual finger-pointing, are all set in the intricate landscape of a forum where loyalties and affiliations remain ambiguous. It's quite a labyrinth, isn't it?
We, the British Empire, want to give our people a chance to mend their ways, but if you are dishonest and distort the truth, don't blame me for exposing your ugly face
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKCI6zY0wFs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji_JhuAZwkQ
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Stay away from the black intermediary Wanabetaller in Türkiye. It can only be said that Turkey is a place outside the law, and it has saved these Xinjiang people hiding in foreign countries time and time again. Let you help Turkey's unscrupulous bosses harm so many Chinese people to smear victims in the past three years, and you can continue to post Turkey's broken bones and heightened advertisements on major post bars to attract traffic! As long as the legal system can punish these bad guys, I'm too lazy to go online!
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Hello soyboy virgin, I don't feel the need to create an account to see someone's video. It's your job to make the evidence easily accessible if you want us to take you seriously.
I'm taller than you, more handsome than you, and get more women than you (which isn't hard, as you've never had sxx in your life). Keep flying the flag for your queens in the hope one will reward you with a crumb of pussy one day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOd5aG34z_8
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOd5aG34z_8
Boy, you only played my head and covered up 90% of my charisma, a man like me with a tall, handsome, big penis. Isn't it worth girls to seduce me? Let me tell you, I have such a gene Excellent man, the number of girls who have seduced me is more than the salt you have ever eaten...
(https://i.imgur.com/rO117YN.jpg)
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Hello, I am the quality control manager of the company. It is my responsibility to ensure that all services provided to patients, from transfers to accommodations, from physical therapy to medical dressing, are carried out according to the company's quality policy. Therefore, I will try to respond to each claim made by the patient in a detailed manner, without compromising honesty and transparency. In fact, forums are places where competitors criticize each other, and real patient reviews get mixed with fictitious ones, creating a risk of falling into the trap of manipulated information while trying to access accurate information. For this reason, as a principle, I prefer not to engage in discussions on forums. However, this time, I want to intervene because I feel a responsibility toward the company, the employees, and all our patients who return home with fulfilled dreams.
1- The patient stated that the doctor’s professionalism is a positive aspect of the company. Yes, our doctor and hospital team are indeed very good at their jobs. However, we also expected him to mention how excellent and professional the physical therapy and dressing services, which are part of the hotel-like amenities for patients, are. If we speak based on the statement of the doctor, in which the patient stated that he was professional, "A successful limb lengthening surgery journey is only 30%, the remaining 70% depends on successful physical therapy, the patient's commitment to the therapy, and dressing services." From what I observed, despite the patient's complaints about the pool, food, price, and many other things, they did not have any complaints about the current health of their legs. No infection or any leg issues at all. This alone should be enough to show that the company's professionalism is not limited to just the doctor.
2- I also have to agree with the patient's criticisms regarding the pool and gym facilities. The patient is right in this matter. However, there are some points that I cannot help but explain. Our company moved to an affiliate of the international brand Wyndham, a hotel, about two months ago to provide better service to our patients. During the relocation negotiations, the hotel was still making arrangements for the pool and gym, according to the information provided to us. We relied on this information and decided to move with the expectation that the pool and gym would be operational shortly. Unfortunately, due to various reasons, the hotel could not fulfill its commitment, and the pool and gym did not become operational during the two months after our move. (Based on the information given to me, the pool is currently operational and will be made accessible for disabled individuals.) The patient's accusation of deception by the company to deceive customers is either due to their malice or ignorance. Patients are not obliged to stay at the hotel, which is our company's business partner. Accommodation is just one of the options offered by the company and is not mandatory. After seeing the hotel, we refunded the accommodation packages to those who did not wish to stay there, and they stayed at their preferred homes or other hotels. This patient could have also chosen to cancel their accommodation package and stay at a hotel with a pool or even a jacuzzi. In fact, dozens of our patients stayed in other places during this two-month period, not at this hotel, and we continued to provide all the services to them with utmost care.
3- The physiotherapy room is designed to accommodate the treatment services of four patients simultaneously, according to the standards set by doctors and physiotherapy specialists. Assuming our patients adhere to their physiotherapy appointments, it is presumed they will achieve the maximum benefit from each session. The excellent success rate in our patients' physiotherapy treatments demonstrates that this assumption is being met accordingly.
4- The inadequacy of equipment has been a longstanding issue raised by patients. Equipment purchases are determined based on the recommendations of doctors and physical therapy specialists. Our company has empowered experts to identify and purchase all kinds of equipment that will help patients continue their physical therapies in an optimal manner. Our specialists believe that many fancy devices are merely part of a commercial marketing tactic, intended to impress but lacking substantial benefits. When I conveyed the complaints about equipment diversity to our physical therapy specialists, they responded as follows: "Many devices used by rival companies are actually just for show. If they had any real benefits, we would demand their purchase based on the authority granted to us. This way, our work would be easier, and we wouldn't have to exert so much effort. Success in physical therapy depends on a diligent physical therapist and the patient's personal effort in harmony with the physical therapy specialist.
5- When it comes to the devices that are reported as faulty, despite warnings, some of our patients are taking the functioning massage guns to their rooms. When we notice this, we order new ones, just like we did the other day. A new bicycle has also been purchased, but it is not being effectively used either due to improper usage or tampering with the pedals and seat pins. As soon as the malfunction is noticed, we intervene, and if it cannot be repaired, we immediately order a replacement. In the physical therapy room, we have four beds - three fixed and one with a movable system. One of the beds with a movable system malfunctioned, and due to the delay in obtaining the spare part and repairing it, it was temporarily used as a fixed bed. (According to the last information I received, all that remains is to install the supplied spare part in the system.) In essence, whether a bed has a movable or fixed system has little significance on the success of the applied physical therapy, and since the patient mentioned a problem with the bed and not with their legs, it seems that he has had a successful physical therapy process.
As for the ventilation of the physical therapy room, it is true that there was a problem caused by the central air conditioning system in the hotel's property, specifically in the ventilation ducts providing air to some rooms. Unfortunately, this has caused discomfort for the patients in hot weather. We have consistently made efforts with the hotel to resolve this issue, as it falls under the hotel's ownership and responsibility. Additionally, we purchased a portable air conditioner to try to alleviate the problem to some extent. (Based on the latest information I have, the ventilation issue in the physical therapy room has been resolved six days ago.)
6- While the direct criticisms related to the hotel should perhaps be addressed by the hotel itself, I still want to share my observations from the times I visited the hotel. A- As I mentioned before, the hotel operates as a subsidiary of the world-renowned international hotel chain, Wyndham, and it is relatively new in service. I must admit that being a newly established hotel comes with some challenges. However, among these issues, there is no problem with the hotel staff being rude and disrespectful. Undoubtedly, there are dozens of staff members in this hotel, and it's possible that a few of them might be rude or impolite. But the same issue applies to our patients as well. While some patients are praised for their politeness by the hotel staff, there are also patients who are claimed to be rude and disrespectful by the hotel staff. This patient is probably one of them 😊 I guess expecting people from different nationalities to exhibit high standards of conduct and ethics in a world where even people of the same nation fight with each other would be unrealistic. B- The quality of the hotel's food can certainly be debatable, but I cannot give an opinion on that since I haven't had lunch or dinner there yet. However, I was quite surprised by the patient's claims of finding worms in the breakfast. Because I have had breakfast at this hotel at least 15 times and have never encountered such a situation. To be honest, the variety and quality were satisfying from my perspective. Not only me but also six of the company's employees who have been having their breakfast here from the beginning haven't mentioned anything about their breakfast being spiced up by worms. I wish the patient had taken photos of these adorable worms visiting them during breakfast and informed us immediately, so we wouldn't have to learn about this worm story from a forum now. C- Actually, it shouldn't be a problem for the patient even if the evening menu of the hotel is just 1% of the total options available. There are hundreds of establishments around the hotel that provide services and accept online orders, and this option is one of the reasons why we chose this hotel. Well, the patient could have used this option to order the desired food, and we have a staff member entirely dedicated to handling these orders from the patients. D- (Although it is almost finished,) it would be harsh to criticize the patient's claim of being confined to their room for months due to ongoing renovations in the hotel's pool, terrace, and gym. However, the situation is not as dire as the patient suggests. The hotel has a lobby and an integrated common sitting area. Furthermore, the hotel rooms have a one-bedroom suite concept, which offers a more spacious arrangement compared to standard hotel rooms. As previously mentioned, patients are not obligated to stay in this hotel, and we already provide services to many patients who choose to stay elsewhere according to their preferences. Patients are not obliged to consider either the patient's complaints or my defense when deciding whether to stay in this hotel. After personally seeing the hotel, they can make their decision freely. E- We didn't know that we had fascist staff who spoke Turkish with the patient even though he or she didn't speak Turkish 😊 If the patient shares the names of these staff members with us and if we find any intention behind their behavior, I guarantee that we will terminate their employment immediately. Currently, our staff has an accepted level of English to provide the services promised by the company in the contracts, in case the patient doesn't wish to engage in philosophical discussions about Jean-Jacques Rousseau or Hegel with them.
Until now, I have preferred to respond to the patient's criticisms by occasionally acknowledging their perspective and sometimes using humor. However, in this final point, there will be no humor, and I will not agree with the patient in any way. This is because, considering that the patient has neither directly nor indirectly suffered any harm in the incident they mentioned and is not one of the parties involved, I believe their intention is not to offer constructive criticism but rather to maliciously discredit the company and trap forum members into biases against the company.
7- All the individuals involved in the harassment and injury incident mentioned by the patient are our patients. As a company, we strictly adhere to the principle of impartiality in resolving any issues that may arise between patients, with the sole priority of calming the situation and preventing further harm to our patients. In this particular case, we have advised each party involved to seek their rights through independent legal channels by offering to provide them with lawyers. This is because each patient has denied the other party's claims and put forth their own. Regarding the injury incident, the patient who suffered a leg injury claimed that he was attacked without reason, while the other patient who caused the injury claimed that he was forced to defend himself in response to an attack against him. As for the aspect of harassment, the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions. In such a complex situation, it was not up to us but the judicial authorities to determine who was right and who was wrong. Therefore, we encouraged the parties to seek their rights through legal means, and during this process, our company did its best. The party accused of harassment and assault is seeking his rights through legal means and hired a Turkish lawyer. The legal process is currently ongoing, and it would be inappropriate for me to comment further, as sharing more information could violate legal confidentiality. As I am not in a legal position to provide an opinion, I refrain from making any comments. Currently, all the patients involved in the incident have completed their processes and returned to their countries. If the serious events mentioned by the patient on the forum, such as near-death experiences or assault, had actually occurred, Turkish Criminal Law would have imposed precautionary measures and the accused person would not have been allowed to leave the country. Hence, the claim that 'the company disregarded the incident and provided no support to the patients involved, solely focusing on money and prestige' is highly unethical and baseless. Moreover, even if such an incident had occurred, why would our female patient, who claims to have been harassed, refuse to accept the offer of being relocated to another hotel for her safety and insist on staying at our company's hotel on her own will? This alone should be enough to demonstrate her trust in our company. Furthermore, why would the same patient convey her request to stay at the same hotel for her second surgery? Despite our insistence on recommending other hotels with concealed addresses for patients involved in the incident due to various security concerns, why did this female patient insist on staying at our hotel? And why did she want to complete her second surgery process here?
If we were thinking about money, would we recommend this patient we are worried about to have her second surgery done somewhere else? We kindly recommended her to do the second surgery somewhere else.
The long and the short, it is unacceptable persecution for a patient who was not involved in the incident and did not suffer any harm from the events, to adopt an unfair and unjust attitude that exceeds the boundaries of constructive criticism towards our company based on an event he is not familiar with.
For example, if this patient, who displays this unacceptable behavior, were friends with another patient of ours and later his friend whom he befriended stole his money and caused harm, would our company be held responsible for his/her wrongdoing? If we did not encourage or assist that patient in stealing the other patient's money and causing harm, which is already unthinkable, can the company be held accountable for its actions? We embrace all of our patients, regardless of their religion, language, race, or color, and strive to do our best to help them achieve their dreams. We do not possess a miraculous ability to determine who is a saint and who is a devil. If we did, we would identify and never allow such ungrateful and malicious patients to approach our company, despite all our dedication, efforts, closeness, and the successful treatment we have provided.
We have confidence in ourselves. We do not shy away from our mistakes and deficiencies but confront them and try to overcome them. We will continue to strive to do better and achieve the best.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOd5aG34z_8
Wannabetaller : ”the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions.’’ He denied ? hahaha? then who’s this on the video ?hahahahahaha remember your company is wannabetaller not wannabeliar :P :P :P
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So I wasn't going to say anything, but this is horrible. I saw the company communicate about what happened with this patient, because she showed me the texts. Whether the company is at fault is irrelevant, and I refuse to comment on that, but she was assaulted TWICE by two different people and multiple of us were either there to confirm it happened or saw the aftermath of the texts. One of these people also assaulted me - In my case the company directly intervened and dealt with the situation, and the employee was fired. This doesn't change the fact it disgusted me and left me feeling unsafe. I appreciate them firing him and taking action, but this is a traumatic event that is entirely separate from everything else you are going through recovery wise. Some of you need to stop gaslighting victims.
Dear patient
Even though I can't meet you in person, I know you. From the beginning to the end, I followed your treatment process and the developments related to the other event very closely through your consultant. Let me clear up a few minor misunderstandings.
First of all, the personnel we broke off has never been officially an employee of the company. We just wanted our patients to meet their needs until the new staff member starts to fill the gap left by the sudden resignation of our female staff member. While doing this, our aim was to prevent disruptions in the services of patients.
Secondly, as I said before, we received the information that he harassed you from your consultant just before we communicated the decision that we have cut off all relations with him. We had tangible and professional evidence of his faults that led us to break with him, and he already could not deny it. We also asked him about the "allegation" that he abused you, but he entirely denied it. At that time, we did not have any "legal" and "professional" data to substantiate this "allegation". There was not enough time to verify this claim and take action on this claim in accordance with labor law.So we couldn't make that an official reason to break up with him. Otherwise, he could even sue both us and the intermediary company he was affiliated with, for illegal dismissal. Our characterization of your harassment claim as "a claim" is entirely related to the official position of the company and the law. The fact that we describe this as a legal and professional claim does not of course mean that you are lying. We never thought you were lying, but it wouldn't have gained you or us anything if we made a move against the employee on a claim that could not be officially verified. Your and our goal was to keep it away from us, and we did so in full compliance with the law. I hope you understand what I mean on this sensitive subject. Thank you.
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What I find curious about wannabetaller, livelifetaller, and the like is that if the criticisms against them on the forum are false, why don't they take legal action against the posters or LL Forum?
Are the posts by LL Forum fully anonymized, making it impossible to legally penalize them?
The answer to your last question sheds light on the situation. Legally penalizing an anonymous forum is nearly impossible. As a company, we prefer such forums to continue, as untold and unmanipulated experiences hold value and can guide many people. However, we find ourselves in a challenging position due to a smear campaign against our company, where we are unjustly held responsible for issues between patients. The person behind this campaign is not even a patient with health problems and is about to complete their process successfully. It is unacceptable for someone outside the events to defame our company in this manner.
I personally witnessed and actively managed the process to ensure the best possible outcome, working tirelessly for the peace and trust of our patients. I must admit that the actions of those trying to defame the company over the harassment incident are far more distasteful than what "Victims on Turkey" did. While I understand the difficulties "Victims on Turkey" went through, we had close contact with them throughout, and the infection cases in the videos they shared did not occur under our supervision. Infections do not develop suddenly, and if they were under our responsibility, we would have noticed and intervened before it reached such a severe point, as our nurses perform regular bandage changes and dressings every two or three days.
In essence, forums like this can be instructive when based on impartial observations from "real" and "impartial" patients. However, a significant problem arises as it becomes exceedingly difficult to distinguish between genuine patients and those with malicious intent. To address this issue, our advice to everyone here is to visit our company and see for themselves before making any judgments.
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I am going to turkey to undergo to my surgery, I do not care about the risks, I'm already dead with my currently height.
You don't have to die to get taller. Just carefully follow the guidelines of professionals (doctors, physiotherapists, and nurses) throughout the process. That's it! We recommend that you leave aside what is written for or against us in this or any forum and visit us. Then you can decide to do what.
Let me warn you from the start. As some of our patients have complained, we still have a gym problem, and sometimes lost Wi-Fi connection. Regards, WBT.
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Dear patient
Even though I can't meet you in person, I know you. From the beginning to the end, I followed your treatment process and the developments related to the other event very closely through your consultant. Let me clear up a few minor misunderstandings.
First of all, the personnel we broke off has never been officially an employee of the company. We just wanted our patients to meet their needs until the new staff member starts to fill the gap left by the sudden resignation of our female staff member. While doing this, our aim was to prevent disruptions in the services of patients.
Secondly, as I said before, we received the information that he harassed you from your consultant just before we communicated the decision that we have cut off all relations with him. We had tangible and professional evidence of his faults that led us to break with him, and he already could not deny it. We also asked him about the "allegation" that he abused you, but he entirely denied it. At that time, we did not have any "legal" and "professional" data to substantiate this "allegation". There was not enough time to verify this claim and take action on this claim in accordance with labor law.So we couldn't make that an official reason to break up with him. Otherwise, he could even sue both us and the intermediary company he was affiliated with, for illegal dismissal. Our characterization of your harassment claim as "a claim" is entirely related to the official position of the company and the law. The fact that we describe this as a legal and professional claim does not of course mean that you are lying. We never thought you were lying, but it wouldn't have gained you or us anything if we made a move against the employee on a claim that could not be officially verified. Your and our goal was to keep it away from us, and we did so in full compliance with the law. I hope you understand what I mean on this sensitive subject. Thank you.
There is an idiot who asks a sexual person in the way of questioning, will he admit it? We need justice partners like us to help rapists admit their crimes. In Turkey, the police and the law are useless!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOd5aG34z_8
Wannabetaller : ”the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions.’’ He denied ? hahaha? then who’s this on the video ?hahahahahaha remember your company is wannabetaller not wannabeliar :P :P :P
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There is an idiot who asks a sxxual person in the way of questioning, will he admit it? We need justice partners like us to help rapists admit their crimes. In Turkey, the police and the law are useless!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOd5aG34z_8
Wannabetaller : ”the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions.’’ He denied ? hahaha? then who’s this on the video ?hahahahahaha remember your company is wannabetaller not wannabeliar :P :P :P
fk you, Again, please show me all my good qualities.
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fk you, Again, please show me all my good qualities.
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Is he LL patient or worker there?
He raped the female patient? not arrested at all???
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOd5aG34z_8
Wannabetaller : ”the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions.’’ He denied ? hahaha? then who’s this on the video ?hahahahahaha remember your company is wannabetaller not wannabeliar :P :P :P
I could answer better if I knew which of the two patients involved—G or S—was. But it doesn't really matter who you are here. Why didn't you show this video while the parties testified at the police station? Even submitting this video to a forum and not to legal authorities shows your true intentions. Laws in Turkey are very strict, especially when it comes to women's rights and harassment cases, and judges in the courts are strictly affirmative in favor of women. In fact, this positive discrimination sometimes even causes them to make wrong decisions against men. This will be my final answer, taking it seriously. I leave the decision to the readers of this forum.
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I could answer better if I knew which of the two patients involved—G or S—was. But it doesn't really matter who you are here. Why didn't you show this video while the parties testified at the police station? Even submitting this video to a forum and not to legal authorities shows your true intentions. Laws in Turkey are very strict, especially when it comes to women's rights and harassment cases, and judges in the courts are strictly affirmative in favor of women. In fact, this positive discrimination sometimes even causes them to make wrong decisions against men. This will be my final answer, taking it seriously. I leave the decision to the readers of this forum.
Don't teach me how to do, ok? Whether we Sue him or not is none of your business. You said that the rapist didn't admit it, that the victim was guilty, and the video is here, you Professionally lies. You has been professionally helping rapists get away with their crimes. After being exposed by me, you are still full of sophistry, changing the subject. What we're questioning is that you said the rapist denied,the fact that he admitted , just directly answer, don't change the subject and try to gaslight the victim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOd5aG34z_8
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Is he LL patient or worker there?
He raped the female patient? not arrested at all???
NOT RAPE, it is attempted rape and indecent assault!!!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOd5aG34z_8
Looks very likely this was all said under duress which makes it worthless of course. A defence lawyer would have a field day:
1) Let's first have someone who speaks Chinese verify your subtitles are true and accurate.
2) This guy is shirtless, perhaps nked, and is sat on the floor while at least 2 people are filming him, asking leading questions. Not exactly hard to imagine he's been threatened or feels fear in this scenario. Especially by a group calling themselves 'justice partners' (another term used could be 'vigilantes'). Why wasn't this interview conducted in a public place like the hotel lobby, or even better, down at the police station if he was ready to freely confess? Why would he just tell you all this of his own free will - keep in mind, a confession under duress isn't evidence of anything.
Those are questions any competent defence lawyer will be asking and it's probably why you haven't rushed down to the police station with your video - it'd be thrown out of court. Just like I'm about to do here, absent any proof that this interview was 1) accurately subtitled, and 2) Not done under threats of violence, blackmail etc.
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Looks very likely this was all said under duress which makes it worthless of course. A defence lawyer would have a field day:
1) Let's first have someone who speaks Chinese verify your subtitles are true and accurate.
2) This guy is shirtless, perhaps nked, and is sat on the floor while at least 2 people are filming him, asking leading questions. Not exactly hard to imagine he's been threatened or feels fear in this scenario. Especially by a group calling themselves 'justice partners' (another term used could be 'vigilantes'). Why wasn't this interview conducted in a public place like the hotel lobby, or even better, down at the police station if he was ready to freely confess? Why would he just tell you all this of his own free will - keep in mind, a confession under duress isn't evidence of anything.
Those are questions any competent defence lawyer will be asking and it's probably why you haven't rushed down to the police station with your video - it'd be thrown out of court. Just like I'm about to do here, absent any proof that this interview was 1) accurately subtitled, and 2) Not done under threats of violence, blackmail etc.
Yes..it was strange that he was nked to give confession....
Was he a LL patient too? What happened to him now?
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Looks very likely this was all said under duress which makes it worthless of course. A defence lawyer would have a field day:
1) Let's first have someone who speaks Chinese verify your subtitles are true and accurate.
2) This guy is shirtless, perhaps nked, and is sat on the floor while at least 2 people are filming him, asking leading questions. Not exactly hard to imagine he's been threatened or feels fear in this scenario. Especially by a group calling themselves 'justice partners' (another term used could be 'vigilantes'). Why wasn't this interview conducted in a public place like the hotel lobby, or even better, down at the police station if he was ready to freely confess? Why would he just tell you all this of his own free will - keep in mind, a confession under duress isn't evidence of anything.
Those are questions any competent defence lawyer will be asking and it's probably why you haven't rushed down to the police station with your video - it'd be thrown out of court. Just like I'm about to do here, absent any proof that this interview was 1) accurately subtitled, and 2) Not done under threats of violence, blackmail etc.
You, as the rapist, invited us into your room and said to us you like to be nked in your room and the video is here and it doesn't matter to me your lawyer trust it or not, it is what it is. I'm going to post these videos on the world's social media platforms for everyone to judge, not your defense lawyer. Why wasn't this interview conducted in a public place like the hotel lobby, or at the police station. As a rapist yourself, don't you know why?
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Yes..it was strange that he was nked to give confession....
Was he a LL patient too? What happened to him now?
My good dude, thank you for defending me. I am fine now, every day a new girl seduces me, after all I have good genes, tall body, handsome face, and most of all I have a big penis 8) 8) 8)
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You, as the rapist, invited us into your room and said to us you like to be nked in your room and the video is here and it doesn't matter to me your lawyer trust it or not, it is what it is. I'm going to post these videos on the world's social media platforms for everyone to judge, not your defense lawyer. Why wasn't this interview conducted in a public place like the hotel lobby, or at the police station. As a rapist yourself, don't you know why?
You need to hurry up, I can't wait for the world to realize how good I am. Promote my handsome face, tall figure, and excellent genes to all over the world, so that more girls will come to seduce me.
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Yes..it was strange that he was nked to give confession....
Was he a LL patient too? What happened to him now?
I am fine now, every day a new girl seduces me, after all I have good genes, tall body, handsome face, and most of all I have a big penis 8) 8) 8)
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Looks very likely this was all said under duress which makes it worthless of course. A defence lawyer would have a field day:
1) Let's first have someone who speaks Chinese verify your subtitles are true and accurate.
2) This guy is shirtless, perhaps nked, and is sat on the floor while at least 2 people are filming him, asking leading questions. Not exactly hard to imagine he's been threatened or feels fear in this scenario. Especially by a group calling themselves 'justice partners' (another term used could be 'vigilantes'). Why wasn't this interview conducted in a public place like the hotel lobby, or even better, down at the police station if he was ready to freely confess? Why would he just tell you all this of his own free will - keep in mind, a confession under duress isn't evidence of anything.
Those are questions any competent defence lawyer will be asking and it's probably why you haven't rushed down to the police station with your video - it'd be thrown out of court. Just like I'm about to do here, absent any proof that this interview was 1) accurately subtitled, and 2) Not done under threats of violence, blackmail etc.
Except for her, there are all males here, she does not seduce other handsome guy, she only seduces and wrongs me,do you know why?because I am the most attractive here. My cutie tummy like pregnant, b cup boobs and 3cm dck, can prove my charm.Doubtlessly,any girl will be fascinated by me.
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During this period of time, there were only two female patients, you and the girl, so the female patients all claimed to have been harassed during the company's stay, and the female employee Rabia also claimed to have been harassed by the male patient. How could it be such a coincidence matter. That girl at least has a video to testify, but you and Rabia have not provided any evidence. Let’s deduce it logically, maybe the girl’s accusation was true, and then you and rabia took the opportunity to lie and accuse yourself of being harassed, so as to make potential patient to think that all girls in wbt will be sexually harassed, how much did livelifetaller pay you?
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No - I only saw the correspondence between her and the company, and for me that was enough to draw a conclusion, along with Seven's confession being posted right here in this thread. I'm not sure what more you'd like. Nothing is alleged, it's all plain for everyone to see here. This is an 18 year old girl whose parents have no idea she's even in Turkey doing this surgery, and you're suggesting she just go to Turkish court to pursue someone while in the middle of a major operation - how laughable is this? I would love for the company to post the entire thread of their responses to and from her, because I read through them. I personally don't blame the company for this happening to her (I wasn't even at the hotel at this time) but to deny it even happened? You disgust me.
There were two separate instances in her case. I was personally involved in the second and was there myself to experience it first hand (he assaulted both her and me). This person abused his authority, and I was led to believe he was punished for it. I'm disheartened to hear from the Quality Control Manager it was only a coincidence he was let go the day the complaints were levied, because I was actually going to give the company props for defending the two of us from him and keeping him out of the hotel. You're either a misogynist, brain dead or both.
During this period of time, there were only two female patients, you and the girl, so the female patients all claimed to have been harassed during the company's stay, and the female employee Rabia also claimed to have been harassed by the male patient. How could it be such a coincidence matter. That girl at least has a video to testify, but you and Rabia have not provided any evidence. Let’s deduce it logically, maybe the girl’s accusation was true, and then you took the opportunity to lie and accuse yourself of being harassed, so as to create the goal that all girls in wbt will be sxxually harassed, how much did livelifetaller pay you? If Rabia is really sexually harassed in the workplace, she can sue. Turkey has perfect laws to protect local women in the workplace. She is not a foreigner, so she should be very clear about the laws of her own country. If she does not sue, it proves that she has no evidence to prove She knows how to use her status as a weak person to manipulate public opinion. You so-called envoys of justice are actually being treated as fools, and many former wbt staff have also jumped to livelifetaller
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I originally planned to go back to Turkey after treating chronic osteomyelitis in China to sue the black intermediary Wannabetaller for delaying and mishandling intramedullary infection, which led me to prevent the recurrence of chronic osteomyelitis for the rest of my life! When I knew that the statute of limitations for a lawsuit in Turkey is ten years, and I saw a news that "a man in Turkey spent ten years in a lawsuit to prove that he was not dead", is it so difficult for local Turkish people to defend their rights? Litigation efficiency is so low! Then I went to Turkey as a Chinese to sue the Turks, is there any hope? N years after the execution link, right? Is there any hope for a country like Türkiye? No wonder black intermediaries have no fear! The domestic police and doctors said that what I did was a medical malpractice, and the lawyer also said that it would be easier if the intermediary agency and doctors were in China. But in China, I will definitely not get chronic osteomyelitis, because every doctor knows that debridement is necessary!
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Because WBT is a good company, all employees want to leave???
Wrong, because WBT is a cesspit, even its own employees can't stand it anymore, for the sake of their own conscience, they don't want to continue working for these robbers!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOd5aG34z_8
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I originally planned to go back to Turkey after treating chronic osteomyelitis in China to sue the black intermediary Wannabetaller for delaying and mishandling intramedullary infection, which led me to prevent the recurrence of chronic osteomyelitis for the rest of my life! When I knew that the statute of limitations for a lawsuit in Turkey is ten years, and I saw a news that "a man in Turkey spent ten years in a lawsuit to prove that he was not dead", is it so difficult for local Turkish people to defend their rights? Litigation efficiency is so low! Then I went to Turkey as a Chinese to sue the Turks, is there any hope? N years after the execution link, right? Is there any hope for a country like Türkiye? No wonder black intermediaries have no fear! The domestic police and doctors said that what I did was a medical malpractice, and the lawyer also said that it would be easier if the intermediary agency and doctors were in China. But in China, I will definitely not get chronic osteomyelitis, because every doctor knows that debridement is necessary!
This answer is for all posts you published in this forum
I think you opened another post where you made some claims similar to yours here. We had given a general answer to your claims there.
Frankly, I don't want to light the fuse of a new but useless discussion with you here. Whatever we discuss here, we will not be able to change anything. But if you had paid attention to what we -me(as a quality control)- stated to you in the past, maybe we wouldn't have talked about any of your problems. As far as I observed, you had three basic errors along your process:
1- To keep lengthening secretly when doctor and physiotherapists told you to stop lengthening due to some concerns about your leg health. Please remember that I visited you in your room as soon as this information forwarded to me and I told you that the experts stated that you should stop lengthening for the sake of your legs health. Your gain already wasn't bad at all. I think it was 6.5 or 7 cm. Soon after I came back to you and warned you about that again. You told me that you stopped the extension. But on your next X-ray, it turned out you didn't stop the extension. I came again and warned you once again, and even instructed that the extension key would be taken from you in case you would not pay attention to what I said to you again.
2- After continuing the extension dangerously contrary to all warnings, you pressured us too much for removal surgery as soon as possible. Whereas the doctors and therapists recommended a removal surgery after a week or two after your body was better adapted to the lengthening you did secretly. When we accepted your request for urgent removal surgery due to your intensive pressure, we could not perform the surgery right away because there was the intensity in the operating rooms in the hospital due to some planned surgeries.( I even told you that I was surprised when you said that the delay in the removal surgery was due to the intensity in the operating room rather than the doctor's advice. Then I stated to you that I did not know that this was the real reason, and I would have started the interventions more quickly if I had known.) That's why we couldn't make a suitable removal surgery program for you, so we asked you to be a little more patient. Even,you remember, I kindly asked you that personally. Consequently, when you kept insisting on that, we spent a lot of time trying to make this arrangement with our teammates throughout the night.
3- Your last mistake was that you preferred to share private information, including some private photos, related to some of our staff members, with insults on many Chinese platforms, instead of helping us to keep in touch with us and follow up on your situation while staying outside, although there was no problem that would require you to do that. On top of that, when your osteomyelitis developed, you wasted a lot of time instead of informing it at the first stage. This made it difficult for us to take effective measures.
If I wasn't one of the personnel who was actively in contact with you in all the processes, I could even blame the company based on what you wrote. But you also know that we have experienced all of the above. In your other post, "Don't think that I don't love my legs so much, don't think you are medical experts, if you are I will not have chronic osteomyelitis!" you said. I think if you really loved your legs, you wouldn't have ignored the many warnings about the need to stop extension and not continue to do that in secret. If you really loved your legs, you would have listened to advice not to rush removal surgery. If you really loved your legs, you might be better able to take care of your legs rather than expose them on the platforms after the surgery to remove the staff who did nothing but try to do the best for your health. What you're going through is really tough stuff. I understand you. I even understand that you blame us. In my personal opinion, it would be both pointless and non-emphatic to condemn you for accusing us. What you did deserves more respect than if one of our patients just wanted to defame the company on an issue he has never been a victim of by using invalid,unethical and wrong claims.You have suffered greatly and you hold us accountable. As I said, if it were not for the conversations and correspondence we had with you, even I would have given you the right. But it is not fair for you to completely blame us for the consequences of your own negligence. Maybe the company has experienced some quality problems in services such as accommodation or transfer. However, the company has never compromised on quality standards in doctor, physical therapy and nurse services. We did not hesitate to part ways with anyone ( physiotherapist, consultant, caretaker, field staff, office staff, nurse, doctor, intermediary companies or else) who violated the quality policies that we have secured with contracts. Of course, not compromising these quality standards does not mean that no problems will arise. No matter how good you are, when you perform any operation anywhere in the world, there are many possibilities, including death. We don't have a magic wand to reset these possibilities. But the company informs patients frankly about possible complications/risks. Our contracts provide very detailed, concrete, and honest information. We tell patients that if they follow the instructions of the specialists (doctor, physiotherapist, nurse), they can stay away from possible complications in the best manner. Unfortunately, you have a lot of personal negligence in your private complications. I know this because I actively participated in your process and I personally gave you some warnings. I don't know, maybe the problem was due to the wrong procedure by the experts, as you claim. However, at this point, neither I nor the company can discuss a medical/technical issue with a doctor and must be limited to the doctor's information. At this stage, oddsmans/experts could have made the best decision in a legal case, and you did not resort to this. (Interestingly, while I was preparing my answer, you wrote that you were considering returning to Turkey to sue, but you gave up on this due to the weakness of the justice system in Turkey. You also claimed that your local police and your doctor were talking about medical negligence. It's normal for the local police and your doctor to mention medical negligence. Because you told them your story and they were horrified to think how a doctor didn't notice and intervene until the leg became like that. Therefore, in such cases, a decision should not be reached without hearing both parties. However, where there are two opposing views, we have to rely on the decision of an independent authority, namely the courts. The slow functioning of the justice system is a problem for all of us, I accept that too. But as I said, an impartial and independent council like a court needs to make a decision on behalf of both sides. Also, these types of cases have high-compensation cases. So if an international lawyer sees a light in your story, they will be eager to bring the case to the court.)
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During this period of time, there were only two female patients, you and the girl, so the female patients all claimed to have been harassed during the company's stay, and the female employee Rabia also claimed to have been harassed by the male patient. How could it be such a coincidence matter. That girl at least has a video to testify, but you and Rabia have not provided any evidence. Let’s deduce it logically, maybe the girl’s accusation was true, and then you and rabia took the opportunity to lie and accuse yourself of being harassed, so as to make potential patient to think that all girls in wbt will be sxxually harassed, how much did livelifetaller pay you?
The other Chinese girl was also harassed by the Iranian man, it was not just me. She had two separate encounters, while I had one. Rabia's complaint is about a patient that is completely separate from mine, and I have not talked with her about her complaint beyond what I heard while staying there. You made an account just to say this? The better question is which company are you working for? Do you suggest I have a hidden camera set up in my room so I could catch his behavior secretly? Who stole your last working brain cell? The only company that has offered me any kind of compensation is WBT for telling my honest feedback, which I did in my own thread, complete with the good and bad parts of my experience there. I'm actually jeopardizing my own position by explaining what happened to me and coming forward about it. For many women, this is something we dread doing because of people like you. Despite this situation, I have no problem working with WBT and recommending them. I think they have a good doctor, and there are benefits to having surgery with them if they improve upon the things I complained about. Their prices are also not as hiked as LLT with a lot less fake marketing hype. I believe in complete transparency when it comes to my association with WBT in order to adhere legally to the ad standards guidelines and the FTC. So kindly f*k off. :)
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During this period of time, there were only two female patients, you and the girl, so the female patients all claimed to have been harassed during the company's stay, and the female employee Rabia also claimed to have been harassed by the male patient. How could it be such a coincidence matter. That girl at least has a video to testify, but you and Rabia have not provided any evidence. Let’s deduce it logically, maybe the girl’s accusation was true, and then you took the opportunity to lie and accuse yourself of being harassed, so as to create the goal that all girls in wbt will be sxxually harassed, how much did livelifetaller pay you? If Rabia is really sxxually harassed in the workplace, she can sue. Turkey has perfect laws to protect local women in the workplace. She is not a foreigner, so she should be very clear about the laws of her own country. If she does not sue, it proves that she has no evidence to prove She knows how to use her status as a weak person to manipulate public opinion. You so-called envoys of justice are actually being treated as fools, and many former wbt staff have also jumped to livelifetaller
Haha, what did you come out of? You must be that Iranian. I saw it with my own eyes. You even dared to smoke in the room of the patient who pointed out your sexual assault. You are really disgusting?
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Haha, what did you come out of? You must be that Iranian. I saw it with my own eyes. You even dared to smoke in the room of the patient who pointed out your sxxual assault. You are really disgusting?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOd5aG34z_8
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This answer is for all posts you published in this forum
I think you opened another post where you made some claims similar to yours here. We had given a general answer to your claims there.
Frankly, I don't want to light the fuse of a new but useless discussion with you here. Whatever we discuss here, we will not be able to change anything. But if you had paid attention to what we -me(as a quality control)- stated to you in the past, maybe we wouldn't have talked about any of your problems. As far as I observed, you had three basic errors along your process:
1- To keep lengthening secretly when doctor and physiotherapists told you to stop lengthening due to some concerns about your leg health. Please remember that I visited you in your room as soon as this information forwarded to me and I told you that the experts stated that you should stop lengthening for the sake of your legs health. Your gain already wasn't bad at all. I think it was 6.5 or 7 cm. Soon after I came back to you and warned you about that again. You told me that you stopped the extension. But on your next X-ray, it turned out you didn't stop the extension. I came again and warned you once again, and even instructed that the extension key would be taken from you in case you would not pay attention to what I said to you again.
2- After continuing the extension dangerously contrary to all warnings, you pressured us too much for removal surgery as soon as possible. Whereas the doctors and therapists recommended a removal surgery after a week or two after your body was better adapted to the lengthening you did secretly. When we accepted your request for urgent removal surgery due to your intensive pressure, we could not perform the surgery right away because there was the intensity in the operating rooms in the hospital due to some planned surgeries.( I even told you that I was surprised when you said that the delay in the removal surgery was due to the intensity in the operating room rather than the doctor's advice. Then I stated to you that I did not know that this was the real reason, and I would have started the interventions more quickly if I had known.) That's why we couldn't make a suitable removal surgery program for you, so we asked you to be a little more patient. Even,you remember, I kindly asked you that personally. Consequently, when you kept insisting on that, we spent a lot of time trying to make this arrangement with our teammates throughout the night.
3- Your last mistake was that you preferred to share private information, including some private photos, related to some of our staff members, with insults on many Chinese platforms, instead of helping us to keep in touch with us and follow up on your situation while staying outside, although there was no problem that would require you to do that. On top of that, when your osteomyelitis developed, you wasted a lot of time instead of informing it at the first stage. This made it difficult for us to take effective measures.
If I wasn't one of the personnel who was actively in contact with you in all the processes, I could even blame the company based on what you wrote. But you also know that we have experienced all of the above. In your other post, "Don't think that I don't love my legs so much, don't think you are medical experts, if you are I will not have chronic osteomyelitis!" you said. I think if you really loved your legs, you wouldn't have ignored the many warnings about the need to stop extension and not continue to do that in secret. If you really loved your legs, you would have listened to advice not to rush removal surgery. If you really loved your legs, you might be better able to take care of your legs rather than expose them on the platforms after the surgery to remove the staff who did nothing but try to do the best for your health. What you're going through is really tough stuff. I understand you. I even understand that you blame us. In my personal opinion, it would be both pointless and non-emphatic to condemn you for accusing us. What you did deserves more respect than if one of our patients just wanted to defame the company on an issue he has never been a victim of by using invalid,unethical and wrong claims.You have suffered greatly and you hold us accountable. As I said, if it were not for the conversations and correspondence we had with you, even I would have given you the right. But it is not fair for you to completely blame us for the consequences of your own negligence. Maybe the company has experienced some quality problems in services such as accommodation or transfer. However, the company has never compromised on quality standards in doctor, physical therapy and nurse services. We did not hesitate to part ways with anyone ( physiotherapist, consultant, caretaker, field staff, office staff, nurse, doctor, intermediary companies or else) who violated the quality policies that we have secured with contracts. Of course, not compromising these quality standards does not mean that no problems will arise. No matter how good you are, when you perform any operation anywhere in the world, there are many possibilities, including death. We don't have a magic wand to reset these possibilities. But the company informs patients frankly about possible complications/risks. Our contracts provide very detailed, concrete, and honest information. We tell patients that if they follow the instructions of the specialists (doctor, physiotherapist, nurse), they can stay away from possible complications in the best manner. Unfortunately, you have a lot of personal negligence in your private complications. I know this because I actively participated in your process and I personally gave you some warnings. I don't know, maybe the problem was due to the wrong procedure by the experts, as you claim. However, at this point, neither I nor the company can discuss a medical/technical issue with a doctor and must be limited to the doctor's information. At this stage, oddsmans/experts could have made the best decision in a legal case, and you did not resort to this. (Interestingly, while I was preparing my answer, you wrote that you were considering returning to Turkey to sue, but you gave up on this due to the weakness of the justice system in Turkey. You also claimed that your local police and your doctor were talking about medical negligence. It's normal for the local police and your doctor to mention medical negligence. Because you told them your story and they were horrified to think how a doctor didn't notice and intervene until the leg became like that. Therefore, in such cases, a decision should not be reached without hearing both parties. However, where there are two opposing views, we have to rely on the decision of an independent authority, namely the courts. The slow functioning of the justice system is a problem for all of us, I accept that too. But as I said, an impartial and independent council like a court needs to make a decision on behalf of both sides. Also, these types of cases have high-compensation cases. So if an international lawyer sees a light in your story, they will be eager to bring the case to the court.)
Just keep smearing the victims. Stigmatizing patients, stigmatizing girls who have been sxxually abused. Your WBT is a company formed by hooligans and gangsters, which would have been destroyed by the police and army in China!!!
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is anyone understanding what this schizophrenic is on about with the whining about muh rape
what rape?
it became clear numerous times that the chink went and copped a tiddie and that was it, what are you babbling about 500 times about muh rape and muh police report
such a weird thread
5 pages of shyte because of this autist
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is anyone understanding what this schizophrenic is on about with the whining about muh rape
what rape?
it became clear numerous times that the chink went and copped a tiddie and that was it, what are you babbling about 500 times about muh rape and muh police report
such a weird thread
5 pages of shyte because of this autist
rape? I raped your mother, your sister, your daughter, your grandma, all the women in your family. I have said it several times, it were the girls who seduced me, your whole family was raped by me, fk you,fk all your family!!! I'm so handsome, so tall, with such good genes, and such a big penis, do I need to be raped? The number of girls who seduced me is more salt than you have ever eaten.
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is anyone understanding what this schizophrenic is on about with the whining about muh rape
what rape?
it became clear numerous times that the chink went and copped a tiddie and that was it, what are you babbling about 500 times about muh rape and muh police report
such a weird thread
5 pages of shyte because of this autist
And, I'm not fking Chinese, I'm an English, a noble Londoner, you smelly bumpkin, dont shouted like a dog ok? I rape you whole family? so you shouted like a dog ? MY NAME IS ZHIXIANG CHEN, Do you dare to say your name? Tell me the location of your home and I will rape your whole family right now.
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hey buddy boyo can you circle back to the beginning and let us know what exactly are you trying to accomplish here with these schizo posts
are you the guy from the photo with the micro peenus?
did anyone actually raped the chinese girl or just went to her room and was all creepy and tried to kiss her but she slapped him away and he ran off like a beaten dog?
what rape is that exactly? id say it was a quite unsuccessful rape
do you know what rape is? have you seen the rape scene in the movie "irreversible"? now thats rape
trying to kiss some disabled chink girl with a smelly breath and getting slapped away isnt rape and the guy does not deserve to be given the death penalty like you want as far as i understand
it doesnt even warrant any police action honestly, are you nuts?
just separate them and have her room locked and thats it, whats wrong with you?
wasting everyone's bandwidth for like 5 days now with your schizo rants and ugly nude pics
shape up buddy boyo
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hey buddy boyo can you circle back to the beginning and let us know what exactly are you trying to accomplish here with these schizo posts
are you the guy from the photo with the micro peenus?
did anyone actually raped the chinese girl or just went to her room and was all creepy and tried to kiss her but she slapped him away and he ran off like a beaten dog?
what rape is that exactly? id say it was a quite unsuccessful rape
do you know what rape is? have you seen the rape scene in the movie "irreversible"? now thats rape
trying to kiss some disabled chink girl with a smelly breath and getting slapped away isnt rape and the guy does not deserve to be given the death penalty like you want as far as i understand
it doesnt even warrant any police action honestly, are you nuts?
just separate them and have her room locked and thats it, whats wrong with you?
wasting everyone's bandwidth for like 5 days now with your schizo rants and ugly nude pics
shape up buddy boyo
I am ZHIXIANG CHEN, a man who is tall, handsome, noble Londoner with good genes. Doubtlessly,girls like mature men like me, more attractive. Are you a Bosnian hillbilly, dare to show your penis for comparison? Coward~!
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hey buddy boyo can you circle back to the beginning and let us know what exactly are you trying to accomplish here with these schizo posts
are you the guy from the photo with the micro peenus?
did anyone actually raped the chinese girl or just went to her room and was all creepy and tried to kiss her but she slapped him away and he ran off like a beaten dog?
what rape is that exactly? id say it was a quite unsuccessful rape
do you know what rape is? have you seen the rape scene in the movie "irreversible"? now thats rape
trying to kiss some disabled chink girl with a smelly breath and getting slapped away isnt rape and the guy does not deserve to be given the death penalty like you want as far as i understand
it doesnt even warrant any police action honestly, are you nuts?
just separate them and have her room locked and thats it, whats wrong with you?
wasting everyone's bandwidth for like 5 days now with your schizo rants and ugly nude pics
shape up buddy boyo
I am ZHIXIANG CHEN, a man who is tall, handsome, noble Londoner with good genes. Doubtlessly,girls like mature men like me, more attractive. Are you a Bosnian hillbilly, dare to show your penis for comparison? Coward~!I raped your mother, your grandma, your sister, your aunt, your daughter, wasted 5 days, my dear son.
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Just keep smearing the victims. Stigmatizing patients, stigmatizing girls who have been sxxually abused. Your WBT is a company formed by hooligans and gangsters, which would have been destroyed by the police and army in China!!!
(https://i.imgur.com/TY6UgNV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/brwShcq.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UwldszH.jpg)
Smearing and stigmatizing patients!!? I have never smeared and stigmatized you or any abused patient. "If I wasn't one of the personnel who was actively in contact with you in all the processes, I could even blame the company based on what you wrote." "What you're going through is really tough stuff. I understand you. I even understand that you blame us. In my personal opinion, it would be both pointless and nonemphatic to condemn you for accusing us." "You have suffered greatly and you hold us accountable. As I said, if it were not for the conversation and correspondence we had with you, even I would have given you the right." Would someone whose purpose is to defame and stigmatize a patient ever write these sentences?
"I don't know, maybe the problem was due to the wrong procedure by the experts, as you claim." I even wrote this. What I did when I tried to answer you was to tell you what I witnessed during your process and that your misfortunes could be related to your negligence which more than once happened during the process. But even if you think your misfortunes are due to the mistakes of the company or the experts, I told you that I thought it would be best to bring the matter into a lawsuit. Because neither -officially- the company nor -personally- I am in a position to argue with experts whether they have done anything wrong in a medical matter. This should be decided by the justice authority, taking the opinion of impartial experts. Rest assured, no matter where in the world, justice will want to punish "a company of gangsters and hooligans". I don't understand why you're suggesting that even the abused women don't accuse us - me - of stigmatizing them.
I think you should free yourself from these fights that are no longer helping you and focus on your full recovery. Leave the case to your lawyer and he will fight for you and for justice.
(I also know the patient who had to undergo four surgeries in the screenshots you shared. I was one of those who followed her process closely from the beginning to the end, and she already referred to me as "number two". Since she is not personally involved in the matter yet, I will not comment on her case. It is not appropriate for me to do it now. If I see any comment that I can understand is her, I will defend the company's position on her case if necessary.)
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and she already referred to me as "number two".
number two? what? Is your mother the "number two" person to be raped by a rapist?
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I came back here because I saw the post about Wannabetaller's patient being sexually assaulted at the W hotel . That patient mentioned me, so W's boss thought I participated in the comments on that post, and slandered and attacked me again, which made me very angry! I was crippled by w, but I don't want to be smeared by them! Just because I told the truth online! They have been slandering and attacking patients who have come forward and told the truth. Some Chinese were involved in this, just as they were involved in attacking previous victims of w. We will be tricked into going to w for surgery, just because w's actors tout w so well! Accidents made by w in 2020 made their ex-employee a scapegoat! But their management is still chaotic, and the boss still doesn't take the patient's life and health seriously! Not only do I hate Wannabetallers, I also hate some Chinese patients. I can understand that you didn't have the money to choose the United States and chose Türkiye.But not for money, compensation, and to compliment w, to trick other Chinese people into having surgeries to please murderer and get compensation!
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The reason why we get osteomyelitis is because doctors brought bacteria into the operating room! It will appear 3 months to a year after removal！It’s called delayed-onset osteomyelitis! That's what other doctors explained!If W and yunus had debrided and removed the nail in time, it would not have turned into chronic osteomyelitis!
A large amount of clinical experience in China has confirmed the existence of delayed osteomyelitis, which generally occurs at fractures and has internal fixation. Three of us were infected inside the fracture! I have tons of chats with other patients! I'm not the only victim!
When bacteria lurk on the nails, the number is small at first, also the resistance is good , as the number of bacteria multiplies, the resistance decreases, then the infection will occur.
However, it can be controlled through debridement in the early stage! But only Wannabetaller, a bunch of medical illiterates, said that osteomyelitis is not serious and does not require debridement.
They have no ability to treat complications. W'boss lied the three of us did not know how to disinfect and caused osteomyelitis! Described us like idiots who will watch our legs rot!The wound at the fracture was supposed to be taken care of for us during the extension period, but they made it infected internally! !Even though other two patients stayed in W’s hotel for another 3 months after their nails were removed before leaving Turkey , but they still had intramedullary infection in the fracture site!
When the two of them were undergoing treatment at own country, I discovered that I had been deceived by W’s boss and Yunus! But it was too late, even with chronic osteomyelitis they still didn’t think I needed debridement and nail removal!
W’s boss lied and said that when I told them, the infection was so serious that it couldn’t be treated! Even acute osteomyelitis will not develop into chronic osteomyelitis as long as it is treated promptly and correctly! They keep using lies to clean their mistakes and ignorance!
W and yunus misled and delayed, causing me to deteriorate from an ordinary intramedullary infection that could be cured become a lifelong disease! And you can see how bad attitude to me after I got chronic osteomyelitis!
Before I left W’s hotel to recover nearby them , W's all people knew it and told me that if I needed help just contact with them they would help me!This was a scam!
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But when I contacted them for the first time when my leg was swollen, they started to delay my treatment, and then promised to heal my leg, using only antibiotics without debridement, and told me not to trust other doctors, but I believed them! But when it turned into chronic osteomyelitis, they continued to promise that they would help me switch to other doctors in Turkey, and I believed them.
However, in the end they told me that they could not give me surgery or change doctors, which would be not fair for patients who were treating by themselves in China ! That was because other patients knew that they were not at Turkey , it was even less likely that W, the robber, would be responsible.
Even other patients thought that W should treat me, but W and Yunus ignored me! Its employees told me that the boss had abandoned me, and I had no choice but to return to China. At that time, everything was very difficult due to the epidemic, but I survived!
If I don't stand up and tell the truth, W will continue to lie to the world. They are the first, most experienced, and best-service limb extension agency! I think this is an extremely ironic and fraudulent lie! They specialize in marketing CLL and have an alarming number of marketing accounts.
They falsify the number of cases and decorative doctor yunus, but when faced with complications, they persist in many of their stupid and ignorant ideas!
We know that complications from CLL are inevitable, but I hope that when it occurs, the agency we trust will take it seriously and respond in kindly, instead of lying to attack the patient!
Yunus have violated original intention as medical staff. He forgot that behind every case is a life and a family. From their actions and language attitude so far, you can clearly feel that they only care about their profits!
W'boss used lies to attack me to shut up and disappear like the other victims, of course there will always be patients who have no money to go to USA then go to such black intermediary for CLL.
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As for delaying my 20-day removal surgery , I don’t know how he had the nerve to use it as a reason to attack me! Originally, they made a mistake in their work, so they apologized to me and I forgave them!
Frame removal surgery in Türkiye is always fast! But on March 15, 2022, WBT lied to me and the doctor said that bending my knees could not dismantle the frame. I did not bend my knees. On March 23, WBT lied to me and the doctor said that I had no callus and could not dismantle the frame. The date of surgery is to be determined! And when I asked Yuksel in person, he told me that it was just the operating room too busy, but WBT had been lying to me! W’s boss began to apologize to me and promised to arrange surgery as soon as possible!
2022 March 23 ,I went to the hospital and made an appointment with yuksel for surgery on April 2 ,the most fast time. However, after I went to have my blood drawn on April 1, WBT informed me that the surgery had been cancelled. Yuksel’s assistant told me that the reason was that w had canceled the surgery because he did not prepare the materials, but w lied to me and said that Yüksel canceled the surgery!
It turns out that WBT arranged for me with another patient J to have the scaffold removed on the same day on April 4 for convenience, and he only waited for 2 days!
At WBT,no one told me that I need to make an appointment 20 days in advance to dismantle the frame! This goes against the previous rules of rapid demolition!What's shameful is that they lied many times to deceive patients and maliciously delay the removal time!Their actual operations are extremely contradictory!
J developed an internal infection at the fracture site just like me on August 7th! There is also another girl Q. It is obvious that the doctor recommended by WBT introduced bacteria during surgery.
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They once extended a calf by 7.5 cm to a patient who waited 6 months for the frame to be removed! Some patients were also delayed and dismantled, and they were so angry that they wanted to commit suicide! These broken things about W can't be finished for three days and three nights! w has become unscrupulous in order to earn more accommodation fees! And use the inability to earn the patient's accommodation fee as an excuse for not wanting to be responsible for the patient's life and health!
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The reason why I extended it by 7 centimeters is
1. Before the operation, they advertised that it could be lengthened to 7 centimeters, and I was in good condition at the time!
2.WBT had patient calf lengthened by more than 7.5 centimeters, but w didn’t mentoin them. Now they use this to attack me.
3. Some patients told me that if I lengthen it by 7 centimeters, the actual height is only 6 centimeters or 5 centimeters, especially there is a 1 centimeter gap between the lon scale line and the actual bone distance, and it will be compressed and shortened later! And I wanted to make sure I got 6cm of height, so I decided to extend it by 7cm. In fact, it is popular in China to extend the calf by 8 or even 15 centimeters, I have seen Chinese patients whose calves were lengthened by 15 centimeters and could still run and climb mountains. . My thighs precise were done at Livelifetaller in May 2021. The actors at w told me that wbt’s service and technology were more good than livelifetallar so I went to w for calf ! My calves now look shorter than my thighs and the proportions are very ugly! And it gets really thick!
4. WBT clearly have other patients whose calves have been lengthened by more than 7.5 centimeters, which is even more than mine, even had the thighs to be lengthened by 10 centimeters. When Yuksel saw that my calf was lengthened by 7 centimeters and he was not angry! The responsibility lies with W's staff who are medically illiterate and cannot explain clearly the consequences of excessive extension!If WBT told me that extending it by 7 centimeters would make me disabled, I would definitely only extend it by 5 centimeters!
5. They use this incident to attack and want to prove that extending by 7 cm can cause osteomyelitis! They just wanted to use this incident to attack me as an independent patient. Wouldn't independent patients disinfect themselves? In China, South Korea, the United States, and Germany, they all rent their own houses for extended periods and disinfect themselves. It is not so easy to get osteomyelitis due to needle tract infection! Remember that the wound at the fracture site should have been taken care of by their nurse at the hotel long ago! Because of their stupidity and ignorance, three of us had internal infections in our fractures! The scariest thing is w and yunus have no complication management skills but they are extremel arrogant!
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They're trying to use this to smear me as an idiot who doesn't love my legs, doesn't how to sanitize, and watches them rot and die with no fear!My leg wound didn't touch water until 2 months after the frame was removed! While patients in other countries take a shower in 15 days! Why I chose to stay in Türkiye to recover? Because I must make sure I can walk normal back to China !I was afraid of infection,so I stayed in their hotel for 4 months. Even though w said they provide rental services! Even they told me that there are patients who returned to the UK with Lon for lengthening ！Even if their physical therapy is like ! Even if their hotel is pitifully small, windows can't be opened, can't cook, can only eat junk takeaway!When I left their hotel to rent a house nearby to recover, they happily came to my room said that they would send me off and promised to contact them if I need help! I thought their after sales service and professionalism was as good as they promised!
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WBT say it's all because of Yüksel, they have changed to yunus !Exactly the same marketing rhetoric!Before I went to w its cast told me that they have changed translators, changed physiotherapists changed physician assistants, Tragedies like before would never happen again, I really believed it! But the tragedy actually kept happening again and again! In fact, my tragedy was mainly caused by Wannabetaller and Yunus' moral corruption, stupidity and arrogance! This was originally an infection that could be cured by debridement, and I told them at the first when I had swelling and pain at the fracture site and a high fever! But Yunus cured it into chronic osteomyelitis at last ! Even like this W refused to change doctor who specialized in bone infection treatment and refused to accept the advice of doctors in other countries about nail removal! They don't care if I die of sepsis or lose a leg when the CRP is as high as 329! They always told me that osteomyelitis is not serious, does not require debridement, and can be cured with just antibiotics! Even when the wound has not healed yet, Yunus told me that I can give it a bath! This dangerous suggestion was strongly protested by doctors in other countries! I left Türkiye after being abandoned by W and yunus! They distorted the facts and discredited me! They betrayed their patients' trust in them and broke their promises!
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This is the advantage of being an intermediary! The doctor recommended by the intermediary, the money collected by the intermediary, also earns your accommodation fee! But he can say he has no responsibility! In China, such intermediaries will go to jail! When 83's nerves were severed, he said the physiotherapist didn't discover the problem in time! When Zian's nerves were severely damaged, he said that the doctor's assistant pressed hard on his knee! When Kerr's precise nail broke, he said that the patient did not exercise properly! They said those employees had been fired and there would be no future problems, but when another nerve damage incident occurred, W's marketing kicked her out of the pre-surgery group! There are so many, I don’t think I can even describe the evils of WBT in three days and three nights! When the victim made a claim, W’s boss said to the victim: You did the surgery after reading the patient Yue Yue’s sharing. If you have any questions, go to Yue Yue! It has nothing to do with them! They are just intermediaries! You can choose to refer new patients to them to get compensation! If you refuse and dare to expose them, you will be attacked and smeared just like me now!
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W’s boss feels that his lies to smear me are no longer tenable, and now he is blaming the employees who once helped him and Yunus deliver information! Look at him masquerading as an innocent idiot in my comment section! Next time he will tell the world that he has fired the employee who delivered the news,ask people continue to believe him!
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The doctor once WBT praised and recommended not only caused me to suffer from chronic osteomyelitis, but also caused my lower limbs to be unequal in length, my knees to be valgus, my fibula to be dislocated, and the instep of my right foot to have nerve pain since the fixation was installed.
Fortunately, I can still hook my foot.
WBT used the inability to earn the patient’s accommodation fee as a reason to shirk responsibility.
I know of at least 20 Chinese patients who suffered severe nerve damage, tendon necrosis, nonunion, bone infection, genu valgus, precise nail fractures and infections after Wannabetaller surgery, as well as the poor quality precise materials purchased by W’s boss,R had 4 surgeries and almost died in Turkey, everyone had dislocated fibulas! Many patients are still being treated in China!
The only way the victim can get compensation is to introduce new patients to WBT! Anyone who dares to expose will be threatened, attacked and smeared by Boss of WBT!
Including former employees who were once W's scapegoats, they were also threatened, attacked and smeared by W's boss! I still keep some videos, X-rays and WeChat chat records of some patients!I'm tired of repeating these things now！
Because the silence of the Chinese victims time and time again made WBT’s boss think that Chinese patients ’s money is easy to cheat, the important is Chinese people are always too timid to tell the truth. W‘boss provoke patients to sue them through international lawsuits that are unlikely to succeed!
They are a leather bag company that can be canceled at any time! And the finance goes through a third-party account! W’s boss always threatens patients with his Turkish lawyer! Going to Türkiye for surgery is a gamble on your life!
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I just suggest that patients who are keen on CLL should not be brainwashed by agents who specialize in marketing CLL! Choose an ethical doctor with the ability to manage complications! An unprofessional and arrogant butcher, even if you reason with him, it's like playing the piano to a cow! Then don’t choose an intermediary!
These chat records reflect the attitude of domestic doctors towards problems. After surgery, all patients rent a room to lengthening by themselves, disinfect it themselves, and receive no physical therapy, but almost all of them recover very well!
There was a patient who had a needle tract infection and the alignment was not straight. The patient scolded the doctor, but the doctor took the initiative to admit his mistake and apologize! No one word of shirk of responsibility! No one word to irritate the patient!
But in the past three years of incidents involving the Turkish black agency Wannabetaller, the boss of WBT has not once admitted his mistake or apologized.
Every time W has made excuses, and every time W has passed the responsibility to patients, former employees, and former doctors, and every time he has guaranteed They changed doctors, staff and no more problems!
When the problem arises again, the boss will only say: We are just an intermediary! This is not our responsibility!
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Your post is very long and it is difficult to understand the whole thing, but from this image it is clear that Yunus misjudged your osteomyelitis.
Is your main purpose to warn everyone that WBT is a terrible institution?
If so, you should keep your post short and clear and include an English explanation in the screenshot.
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The onset time of osteomyelitis depends on the number of bacteria on the internal fixation and your resistance. The internal fixation is lifeless and cannot eliminate bacteria by itself. But doctors who have the ability to manage complications know how to reduce the recurrence rate and prevent osteomyelitis from developing into chronic osteomyelitis!
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Wannabetaller has always promoted that they are a legitimate health travel agency. I would like to say that it is a piece of and does nothing to protect the interests of patients!
According to Chinese law, it is impossible for their companies to be successfully registered.
Look at their company slogans that seriously violate Chinese advertising laws!
Even I asked many times at Turkey,They didn't give me the surgery contract, invoice, or nail certificate!
W only acted as a translator throughout the entire process, and their docking process was also very confusing and slow.
When something went wrong, they would shirk responsibility from each other and kick the patient around li ke a ball!
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In China ,in order to ensure the fairness and safety of the medical order , medical intermediaries are prohibited from interfering with the medical order!
Because intermediary have no professional medical knowledge and cannot bear the corresponding legal responsibility! We call them shameful "yi tuo"!
The medical institution practice licenses of hospitals that employ "yi tuo" are also will revoked! “Yi tuo” are usually sentenced for fraud!
This was also true,when accident occurred , WBT would only say that we were an intermediary when faced with irrefutable facts.
Be cautious about leaving your home country for surgery.Be especially careful with intermediary that recruit a large number of temporary workers and only market CLL surgery.
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This screenshot is about WBT purchased junk materials, which caused patient R to undergo 4 times precise surgeries on his thigh. After R returned to China, he exposed WBT in the WeChat group, and immediately received a court threat from WBT.
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What patient who have undergone precise 4 times thigh surgeries think about Wannabetaller
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Wannabetaller was founded 3 years ago, that time W’boss was a patient of Yuksel ! Where does the ten years of experience come from? I know his thighs were made 7 years ago, so 3 plus 7 equals 10 years? I think there may be something wrong with your math! And does his time represent the doctor's experience?Why, despite your 10 years of experience, I still went from a common infection to chronic osteomyelitis? Why would you with 10 years of experience say treating me would be unfair to other patients?
Actually I see W’boss running like an 80-year-old man with O-shaped legs. Are you sure his knees won’t be disabled in 10 years?Will he tell us truth if his knees are disabled?
We know in the past 3 years, WBT has had countless failure cases, so how about 10 years? 700➕cases ? I can’t imagine how many failures there are!So the average is 70 patients a year, and the average is 6 patients a month?But from November 2021 to April 2022, I saw only 10 Chinese patients in W’s Hotel, but W lied that they had 100 Chinese patients in 3 months!
W wanted to use false data to prove that they were very experienced, but he didn’t know how many bad doctors they had used, and every doctor had been highly recommended by them before ! He didn’t know how many patients were undergoing repair treatment behind these data, and there were family members behind each patient who WBT had never thought about!
In fact, 100% of patients can complete the extension! However, complications such as nerve damage, nonunion, delayed infection, broken nails, genu valgus, arthritis, etc. potential risks do not stop!
WBT chooses to deceive themselves as a marketing method. Because they think they are only intermediary!
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Come out! Wannabetaller official.
If something goes wrong, WBT only have to change employees and doctors, right? No wonder so many of your employees have "voluntarily left". It turns out they are just the scapegoat?
I fk your momomomomo, family..
change this, change that
I'll change your mother for you. WBT!!! fk you.
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Did they reuse precice nails from a different patient. Am I understanding this correctly?
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Did they reuse precice nails from a different patient. Am I understanding this correctly?
Yes we did its a good money saver. I can use the spare money to buy cute dresses for myself. Who cares about patient health when you look cute in front of the mirror.
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Did they reuse precice nails from a different patient. Am I understanding this correctly?
Yes it's something they have done. Someone told me the same thing.
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August 19, 2023,the boss of Wannabetaller pretended to be patients and wrote diaries. The contents of the diaries were copied from those written by other actors of wannabetaller more than a year ago. That diary of the account had been written by 2 different patients of WBT in April 2022.
The reason why I went to W before was because I unconditionally trust such Chinese diarists. I admit that this way of sharing the surgical diary helps the institution get customers very well and quickly!
But everyone’s moral bottom line is different!Some victims refused to be accomplices in exchange for compensation! But some Chinese can use the most vicious language to threaten and attack other Chinese!
Before returning to China on October 2, 2022, I exposed that Chinese diary writer of WBT and thought he should not help an irresponsible agency to write such promotional diary, and then i was quickly threatened by this writer's personal safety! He threatened to find my address, break my legs, and post the video of the beating me on the Internet! He threaten me that he can still find me, including my family, even if I return to China! I keep all the chat records and videos that he threaten me!
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Yes, those who use such language to encourage healthy people to undergo CLL surgery end up causing the patients to pay an extremely huge price and become disabled. In the end, you ran away!
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Yes we did its a good money saver. I can use the spare money to buy cute dresses for myself. Who cares about patient health when you look cute in front of the mirror.
Yes, those who use such language to encourage healthy people to undergo CLL surgery end up causing the patients to pay an extremely huge price and become disabled. In the end, you ran away!
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Yes we did its a good money saver. I can use the spare money to buy cute dresses for myself. Who cares about patient health when you look cute in front of the mirror.
You must be a girl, I'm ashamed that you work for a murderer like WBT, I can also see that you are cold-blooded and evil at heart! WBT must really like employees like you!
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These conversations about Q with me was from August 26, 2022( when she was being treated for an infection in her country)to February 2023.
Fortunately, when the infection first occurred, experienced Chinese doctors in her country used emergency debridement to prevent the infection from developing into chronic osteomyelitis!
She went through a month of extremely painful treatment! She also developed 2 abscesses during treatment! Although her infection was finally controlled by the treating doctor, her treating doctor still reminded her to be careful that the infection might recur!
But after all, her debridement was early and thorough, and she didn't suffer from chronic osteomyelitis, which was gratifying and lucky for her.
Her last words in the group were: If I had known that growing 4 centimeters taller would bring so many complications and cost so much. At the huge cost of pain, she would rather not have this surgery!
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Wannabetaller destroyed 2 of my YouTube accounts, this is the third one! They shamelessly say bad things about others every day, shamelessly say good things about themselves, and do not allow others to tell the truth.
Use this link in YouTube.com:
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I would like to mention that a patient named “83 ”.On August 3, 2020, “83”’s nerves were severed by doctors recommended by WBT, and the tendon became necrotic! She no longer believed in W and decided to return to China for treatment!
W's official statement was issued in February 2021, attacking 83 for being unwilling to stay in Turkey to receive treatment from their doctor and insisting on returning to China for treatment. WBT’boss believed that Chinese doctors had no experience in limb lengthening surgery, as “83” sought treatment from Chinese doctors, which became an excuse for WBT to completely shirk its responsibility!
In April 2021, W's official said that the physical therapist did not discover 83's problem in time, which caused her to become serious! So the physiotherapist and the Chinese translator became the scapegoats, they left WBT !
Because W's boss smeared 83, 83 was attacked and ridiculed.by all the people . Then she shut up ! Several other victims also shut up! Then WBT’boss told everyone he had fired the translator, physical therapist, and medical assistant,re-disseminate seductive promises. Of course, no victim received compensation or apology!They were gradually forgotten.
In May 2021, one of WBT patients,her name was Moon ,she helped WBT write a diary online to promote WBT's services and Yuksel's experience. She told everyone Yuksel ‘s medical skills are much better than before. I really believed her when she told me that there was no one infection with Lon at WBT, this struck me!
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Many tragedies will eventually be forgotten by people, which is what the boss of WBT hopes to see. When he said in April 2021 that those who had suffered tragedies had recovered, people believed him! When tragedy happened to me, I realized how costly failure is! So big that it has become a nightmare of my life! I'm thankful that I still have the money, the time, and the family to be with me through the tough times. To WBT, to this circle, and to the Internet, maybe every tragic story is just something to talk about after dinner.
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I think the potential risks start to kick in after the CLL extension ends.
Doctors in developed countries have been working hard to avoid these possible long-term complications and sequelae.
Even the doctors who are good at complication management will not say that this is a surgery whose benefits outweigh the risks, nor will they only market CLL.
The boss of WBT recruits a large number of temporary workers and diarists to specialize in marketing CLL, making it extremely easy to obtain world-class traffic.
When you search for LLS on Google, you can see their advertisements and contact .
Look at what their propaganda, if no patients insisted on exposing them, I think the boss of WBT would even dare to say that Paley is his student!
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One year and nine months after the calf surgery, my left ankle, which did not have osteomyelitis, often started to hurt after getting up and I could not walk. I had to use pain relief patches. I guess it's the symptoms of ankle arthritis due to the lack of nails in the ankle.
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I've been following this forum as a guest for a while. I have focused more on this forum, especially after the posts made regarding WBT in recent weeks. Because in March last year, I received a consultation from WBT for a 5 cm lengthening and I said that I was thinking of having surgery in December 2023. They mentioned that it would be advantageous for me to pay the deposit in advance in order to benefit from the affordable prices, but my mother had some illnesses and I did not know exactly when she would recover, so I did not feel the need to do this.
Frankly, the osteomyelitis case and the allegations of harassment greatly affected and frightened me as a woman. I'm not sure if I'll go to WBT anymore. If I am not saying that I will never go and that I have definitely given up, there are several reasons for this.
--- For some reason, allegations of harassment regarding WBT started to be made through new accounts that were opened almost at the same time. The language and mode used also raises suspicion that they are governed by a single focus. What is more interesting is that although many new accounts flagged this harassment claim, the Chinese female patient who was the subject of harassment did not post a single post about the harassment. Unlike this Chinese girl, 'user Ahri' openly shared her experiences with the harassment against her, and as far as I understand, she did not seem to blame the company for this harassment attempt.
Judging by what is written in this forum, there are many witnesses to this harassment, and there is also a video with the harasser's confession. So, despite this, it is truly surprising how this harasser was able to return to his country even though the incident was brought to court. If the purpose of those posting here is to punish the harasser and protect the girl who was harassed, I have a hard time understanding why they didn't do this while the harasser and the victim were in front of the judicial authorities.
--- Interestingly, as WBT's official account responds to the allegations, those accusing the company increasingly use insulting and profane language and move away from the focus of the issue. I also accept that there are weak points in the company's defense. But especially the correspondence between some users (like Maison, Ahri etc.)and WBT was respectful and civilized and had a certain logic.
--- What Victim of Wannabetaller went through is really sad. I can empathize with her. But in a very interesting way, she really dispersed and complicated the subject a lot. Although 'user Maison' warned her that it would be better for herself and her cause not to follow such a complicated path, she did the same thing again in the latest series. If I were her, I'd take Maison's advice ( "If you have any messages from around September 1, 2022, please feel free to upload them when you have more time.")
Besides, if there were correspondence throughout her own surgery wholly process,between her and the person who wrote on behalf of WBT official accounts, it would be great if she published them here. Because this person seems confident enough to openly challenge her to publish these correspondences.
--- Finally, the hurtful attitudes towards 'user StubbornKnucklead' made me suspect that there was a clear grudge against WBT. This person was targeted with unfair words in an interesting way, even though a lot of X-ray images and photos throughout his entire process showed that he had grown 9 cm. Moreover, even though he was one of the users that criticized WBT at some points in his previous posts.
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I think you are trying to convince yourself to go with WBT with this long-winded, somewhat pointless message of yours. No offense. The reason why there is a grudge towards them, as you say, is because they have negatively impacted many people. Just look at all these personal experiences about them. If you want to go to Turkey, consider AFA or even LLT before considering WBT. They are just not good people, end of story. About 30+ patients who went with WBT agree with the statement above. Just look at how this WBT official guy responds to some of the posts; that should be enough to discourage you from choosing them."
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I've been following this forum as a guest for a while. I have focused more on this forum, especially after the posts made regarding WBT in recent weeks. Because in March last year, I received a consultation from WBT for a 5 cm lengthening and I said that I was thinking of having surgery in December 2023. They mentioned that it would be advantageous for me to pay the deposit in advance in order to benefit from the affordable prices, but my mother had some illnesses and I did not know exactly when she would recover, so I did not feel the need to do this.
Frankly, the osteomyelitis case and the allegations of harassment greatly affected and frightened me as a woman. I'm not sure if I'll go to WBT anymore. If I am not saying that I will never go and that I have definitely given up, there are several reasons for this.
--- For some reason, allegations of harassment regarding WBT started to be made through new accounts that were opened almost at the same time. The language and mode used also raises suspicion that they are governed by a single focus. What is more interesting is that although many new accounts flagged this harassment claim, the Chinese female patient who was the subject of harassment did not post a single post about the harassment. Unlike this Chinese girl, 'user Ahri' openly shared her experiences with the harassment against her, and as far as I understand, she did not seem to blame the company for this harassment attempt.
Judging by what is written in this forum, there are many witnesses to this harassment, and there is also a video with the harasser's confession. So, despite this, it is truly surprising how this harasser was able to return to his country even though the incident was brought to court. If the purpose of those posting here is to punish the harasser and protect the girl who was harassed, I have a hard time understanding why they didn't do this while the harasser and the victim were in front of the judicial authorities.
--- Interestingly, as WBT's official account responds to the allegations, those accusing the company increasingly use insulting and profane language and move away from the focus of the issue. I also accept that there are weak points in the company's defense. But especially the correspondence between some users (like Maison, Ahri etc.)and WBT was respectful and civilized and had a certain logic.
--- What Victim of Wannabetaller went through is really sad. I can empathize with her. But in a very interesting way, she really dispersed and complicated the subject a lot. Although 'user Maison' warned her that it would be better for herself and her cause not to follow such a complicated path, she did the same thing again in the latest series. If I were her, I'd take Maison's advice ( "If you have any messages from around September 1, 2022, please feel free to upload them when you have more time.")
Besides, if there were correspondence throughout her own surgery wholly process,between her and the person who wrote on behalf of WBT official accounts, it would be great if she published them here. Because this person seems confident enough to openly challenge her to publish these correspondences.
--- Finally, the hurtful attitudes towards 'user StubbornKnucklead' made me suspect that there was a clear grudge against WBT. This person was targeted with unfair words in an interesting way, even though a lot of X-ray images and photos throughout his entire process showed that he had grown 9 cm. Moreover, even though he was one of the users that criticized WBT at some points in his previous posts.
What's wrong with the insult? Do you need to speak human language to the beast?
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I've been following this forum as a guest for a while. I have focused more on this forum, especially after the posts made regarding WBT in recent weeks. Because in March last year, I received a consultation from WBT for a 5 cm lengthening and I said that I was thinking of having surgery in December 2023. They mentioned that it would be advantageous for me to pay the deposit in advance in order to benefit from the affordable prices, but my mother had some illnesses and I did not know exactly when she would recover, so I did not feel the need to do this.
Frankly, the osteomyelitis case and the allegations of harassment greatly affected and frightened me as a woman. I'm not sure if I'll go to WBT anymore. If I am not saying that I will never go and that I have definitely given up, there are several reasons for this.
--- For some reason, allegations of harassment regarding WBT started to be made through new accounts that were opened almost at the same time. The language and mode used also raises suspicion that they are governed by a single focus. What is more interesting is that although many new accounts flagged this harassment claim, the Chinese female patient who was the subject of harassment did not post a single post about the harassment. Unlike this Chinese girl, 'user Ahri' openly shared her experiences with the harassment against her, and as far as I understand, she did not seem to blame the company for this harassment attempt.
Judging by what is written in this forum, there are many witnesses to this harassment, and there is also a video with the harasser's confession. So, despite this, it is truly surprising how this harasser was able to return to his country even though the incident was brought to court. If the purpose of those posting here is to punish the harasser and protect the girl who was harassed, I have a hard time understanding why they didn't do this while the harasser and the victim were in front of the judicial authorities.
--- Interestingly, as WBT's official account responds to the allegations, those accusing the company increasingly use insulting and profane language and move away from the focus of the issue. I also accept that there are weak points in the company's defense. But especially the correspondence between some users (like Maison, Ahri etc.)and WBT was respectful and civilized and had a certain logic.
--- What Victim of Wannabetaller went through is really sad. I can empathize with her. But in a very interesting way, she really dispersed and complicated the subject a lot. Although 'user Maison' warned her that it would be better for herself and her cause not to follow such a complicated path, she did the same thing again in the latest series. If I were her, I'd take Maison's advice ( "If you have any messages from around September 1, 2022, please feel free to upload them when you have more time.")
Besides, if there were correspondence throughout her own surgery wholly process,between her and the person who wrote on behalf of WBT official accounts, it would be great if she published them here. Because this person seems confident enough to openly challenge her to publish these correspondences.
--- Finally, the hurtful attitudes towards 'user StubbornKnucklead' made me suspect that there was a clear grudge against WBT. This person was targeted with unfair words in an interesting way, even though a lot of X-ray images and photos throughout his entire process showed that he had grown 9 cm. Moreover, even though he was one of the users that criticized WBT at some points in his previous posts.
You must be the official of WBT or the shill of them. Because what you said is very similar to them, you are total exposed.
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WBT is not the only lengthening company in the world. They also are not the only company I have talked to and consulted to. Hence I don't need to convince myself of WBT. I'm studying my master's degree in philosophy. Philosophy teaches us to look critically. I also look at the issue critically.
If approximately 30+ patients who went to WBT agreed with the above statements, I would not need to look at the issue critically, because if more than 30 people say the same thing, they are probably telling the truth. But as far as I can see, in the posts about WBT, the number of patients who are obviously real WBT patients does not exceed five. (Sanfranciso1-you-, Ahri, StubbornKnucklead, Shadowhawk, Qwerdbf) The common feature of these patients is that none of them mention a health problem. They appear to be more involved in the matter regarding hotel issues and harassment allegations. (I keep 'victim of wannabetaller' separately. I think she's a former patient. Moreover, her problem is separate and more important than everything else.)
I read the posts of the WBT official and all other users. Which responds of the WBT official do you mean?
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What's wrong with the insult? Do you need to speak human language to the beast?
Insults can't stop beasts, they only turn you into a beast. Of course this is just my personal opinion. You are free to choose whatever you want.
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You must be the official of WBT or the shill of them. Because what you said is very similar to them, you are total exposed.
Don't try to involve me in your personal conflicts with the WBT official. I don't have to take his side or your side. Some of my views are also similar to Madonna's. But that doesn't make me Madonna.
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I've been following this forum as a guest for a while. I have focused more on this forum, especially after the posts made regarding WBT in recent weeks. Because in March last year, I received a consultation from WBT for a 5 cm lengthening and I said that I was thinking of having surgery in December 2023. They mentioned that it would be advantageous for me to pay the deposit in advance in order to benefit from the affordable prices, but my mother had some illnesses and I did not know exactly when she would recover, so I did not feel the need to do this.
Frankly, the osteomyelitis case and the allegations of harassment greatly affected and frightened me as a woman. I'm not sure if I'll go to WBT anymore. If I am not saying that I will never go and that I have definitely given up, there are several reasons for this.
--- For some reason, allegations of harassment regarding WBT started to be made through new accounts that were opened almost at the same time. The language and mode used also raises suspicion that they are governed by a single focus. What is more interesting is that although many new accounts flagged this harassment claim, the Chinese female patient who was the subject of harassment did not post a single post about the harassment. Unlike this Chinese girl, 'user Ahri' openly shared her experiences with the harassment against her, and as far as I understand, she did not seem to blame the company for this harassment attempt.
Judging by what is written in this forum, there are many witnesses to this harassment, and there is also a video with the harasser's confession. So, despite this, it is truly surprising how this harasser was able to return to his country even though the incident was brought to court. If the purpose of those posting here is to punish the harasser and protect the girl who was harassed, I have a hard time understanding why they didn't do this while the harasser and the victim were in front of the judicial authorities.
--- Interestingly, as WBT's official account responds to the allegations, those accusing the company increasingly use insulting and profane language and move away from the focus of the issue. I also accept that there are weak points in the company's defense. But especially the correspondence between some users (like Maison, Ahri etc.)and WBT was respectful and civilized and had a certain logic.
--- What Victim of Wannabetaller went through is really sad. I can empathize with her. But in a very interesting way, she really dispersed and complicated the subject a lot. Although 'user Maison' warned her that it would be better for herself and her cause not to follow such a complicated path, she did the same thing again in the latest series. If I were her, I'd take Maison's advice ( "If you have any messages from around September 1, 2022, please feel free to upload them when you have more time.")
Besides, if there were correspondence throughout her own surgery wholly process,between her and the person who wrote on behalf of WBT official accounts, it would be great if she published them here. Because this person seems confident enough to openly challenge her to publish these correspondences.
--- Finally, the hurtful attitudes towards 'user StubbornKnucklead' made me suspect that there was a clear grudge against WBT. This person was targeted with unfair words in an interesting way, even though a lot of X-ray images and photos throughout his entire process showed that he had grown 9 cm. Moreover, even though he was one of the users that criticized WBT at some points in his previous posts.
From April 2021 to May 2022, one of WBT’s patients actor named “Moon”attacked WBT’s competitors Livelifetaller and Afa in order to help promote WBT.
She also used the excuse of discussing CLL surgery to charge 200 yuan to join her group, which helped WBT collect a large number of new patient resources.
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I've been following this forum as a guest for a while. I have focused more on this forum, especially after the posts made regarding WBT in recent weeks. Because in March last year, I received a consultation from WBT for a 5 cm lengthening and I said that I was thinking of having surgery in December 2023. They mentioned that it would be advantageous for me to pay the deposit in advance in order to benefit from the affordable prices, but my mother had some illnesses and I did not know exactly when she would recover, so I did not feel the need to do this.
Frankly, the osteomyelitis case and the allegations of harassment greatly affected and frightened me as a woman. I'm not sure if I'll go to WBT anymore. If I am not saying that I will never go and that I have definitely given up, there are several reasons for this.
--- For some reason, allegations of harassment regarding WBT started to be made through new accounts that were opened almost at the same time. The language and mode used also raises suspicion that they are governed by a single focus. What is more interesting is that although many new accounts flagged this harassment claim, the Chinese female patient who was the subject of harassment did not post a single post about the harassment. Unlike this Chinese girl, 'user Ahri' openly shared her experiences with the harassment against her, and as far as I understand, she did not seem to blame the company for this harassment attempt.
Judging by what is written in this forum, there are many witnesses to this harassment, and there is also a video with the harasser's confession. So, despite this, it is truly surprising how this harasser was able to return to his country even though the incident was brought to court. If the purpose of those posting here is to punish the harasser and protect the girl who was harassed, I have a hard time understanding why they didn't do this while the harasser and the victim were in front of the judicial authorities.
--- Interestingly, as WBT's official account responds to the allegations, those accusing the company increasingly use insulting and profane language and move away from the focus of the issue. I also accept that there are weak points in the company's defense. But especially the correspondence between some users (like Maison, Ahri etc.)and WBT was respectful and civilized and had a certain logic.
--- What Victim of Wannabetaller went through is really sad. I can empathize with her. But in a very interesting way, she really dispersed and complicated the subject a lot. Although 'user Maison' warned her that it would be better for herself and her cause not to follow such a complicated path, she did the same thing again in the latest series. If I were her, I'd take Maison's advice ( "If you have any messages from around September 1, 2022, please feel free to upload them when you have more time.")
Besides, if there were correspondence throughout her own surgery wholly process,between her and the person who wrote on behalf of WBT official accounts, it would be great if she published them here. Because this person seems confident enough to openly challenge her to publish these correspondences.
--- Finally, the hurtful attitudes towards 'user StubbornKnucklead' made me suspect that there was a clear grudge against WBT. This person was targeted with unfair words in an interesting way, even though a lot of X-ray images and photos throughout his entire process showed that he had grown 9 cm. Moreover, even though he was one of the users that criticized WBT at some points in his previous posts.
I don't care if you go to WBT for surgery! That's your legs and your money! I just want to tell the truth! If you really haven’t had surgery yet, I advise you not to compliment WBT so early! I have seen many patients like you in the past 3 years. In the end, they became victims, and then they saw the true face of WBT. R used to be a patient who would help WBT attack afa. You can go there with a translator. Check out the chat log I uploaded about what she went through in WBT!
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Insults can't stop beasts, they only turn you into a beast. Of course this is just my personal opinion. You are free to choose whatever you want.
Yes !Even insults can't make murderer go to hell, but it can at least vent anger. You have the freedom to choose a doctor and we have the freedom to vent our emotions! I hope you can still remain graceful when tragedy happens to you!
It is useless to reason with WBT, it is useless to insult them, and also can’t sue them. If someone tells the truth here, will be laughed at by people like you.
This is why those victims are hate to come here ! Many patients around me who are undergoing restorative treatment even hate to discuss this topic online. They think that doing so is very tiring and affects their mood, and it does not have any benefit to their own treatment!
I guess you can’t read Chinese or are too lazy to use a translator to read the conversations I uploaded with WBT and other patients! But I don’t care about these, because the large number of chat records I uploaded have already shown that WBT is a group of intermediaries and murderers without complications management capabilities and ethics! You can freely choose to become a partner with an immoral murderer!
Actually I used to be very like you who only believed in WBT officials. Even though their past patients reminded me not to go, I still believed in the officials and actors!Now I will respect everyone's destiny!
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I am currently with WBT and everything said is the absolute truth. I think you must be a WBT bot because why would you discredit peoples personal experiences where they have spent months with them. There is a history of bad service with this company dating back 4-5 years even if only half is true its enough to go with an other company that has no bad reviews about them for example AFA. How can you just from a consultation with them come to an honest opinion that everyone is lying hence you sound like a WBT shill. And also there has been some health problems but you have to remember people are scared to tell a company that has no professional standards and act like children when intrusting there legs to them and WBT is known to write fake dairies in the past and been exposed for it. Why do you think places like AFA/LLT has like 30+ patients at the moment and WBT can't even get one person in the door without lying to them about everything says a lot about the business being conducted there and the standards being uphold.
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--- Finally, the hurtful attitudes towards 'user StubbornKnucklead' made me suspect that there was a clear grudge against WBT. This person was targeted with unfair words in an interesting way, even though a lot of X-ray images and photos throughout his entire process showed that he had grown 9 cm. Moreover, even though he was one of the users that criticized WBT at some points in his previous posts.
I think you are an intelligent and calm conversationalist.
Just to point this out, I did not intend to be slanderous in his topic.
The premise is that many patients do not know that x-ray images are magnified a few percent more than the real thing.
If a ruler is x-rayed along with the bone, there will be errors in length if the ruler is not in the proper position.
Some LL clinics do not explain image magnification to patients.
The WBT official did not give a clear answer about the magnification correction of X-ray images after all.
As a result, I cannot rule out the possibility that his actual lengthening amount did not exactly reach 9 cm.
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Don't try to involve me in your personal conflicts with the WBT official. I don't have to take his side or your side. Some of my views are also similar to Madonna's. But that doesn't make me Madonna.
The Shill of WannaBeTaller. Stop pretending, you have already been exposed!!! The Shill of WannaBeTaller. Stop pretending, you have already been exposed.
In my eyes, your are more despicable than the company official. Get out of here before I insult you. Please!!!!
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I think you are an intelligent and calm conversationalist.
Just to point this out, I did not intend to be slanderous in his topic.
The premise is that many patients do not know that x-ray images are magnified a few percent more than the real thing.
If a ruler is x-rayed along with the bone, there will be errors in length if the ruler is not in the proper position.
Some LL clinics do not explain image magnification to patients.
The WBT official did not give a clear answer about the magnification correction of X-ray images after all.
As a result, I cannot rule out the possibility that his actual lengthening amount did not exactly reach 9 cm.
I never thought you were slandering on this matter. What I wrote was not for you. I meant those who upset the patient for no reason. You are one of the few users I follow carefully on this forum from the very beginning and I really value your opinions. Your perspective seems very scientific and analytical to me. Thank you...
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"I was reminded that he was chatting with a scammer, so I ran to ask the scammer: Are you a scammer?
The scammer said, 'I'm not.'
Then I replied, 'Okay.'
And as a result, I was deceived"
I found many people in the forum to be as foolish as "me"............
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Just remember when you slander someone. It means making false statements. The facts presented are truthful and has plenty of evidence to back them up. So it's not slander if it's the truth remember that.
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I never thought you were slandering on this matter. What I wrote was not for you. I meant those who upset the patient for no reason. You are one of the few users I follow carefully on this forum from the very beginning and I really value your opinions. Your perspective seems very scientific and analytical to me. Thank you...
Those who upset the patient for no reason are just the dog shill like you, and the black hearted boss, and his subordinates of WBT. The most despicable of all is someone like you who is shameless shill.
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I am currently with WBT and everything said is the absolute truth. I think you must be a WBT bot because why would you discredit peoples personal experiences where they have spent months with them. There is a history of bad service with this company dating back 4-5 years even if only half is true its enough to go with an other company that has no bad reviews about them for example AFA. How can you just from a consultation with them come to an honest opinion that everyone is lying hence you sound like a WBT shill. And also there has been some health problems but you have to remember people are scared to tell a company that has no professional standards and act like children when intrusting there legs to them and WBT is known to write fake dairies in the past and been exposed for it. Why do you think places like AFA/LLT has like 30+ patients at the moment and WBT can't even get one person in the door without lying to them about everything says a lot about the business being conducted there and the standards being uphold.
I have no intention of being either a WBT bot or an antiWBT. Maybe you are a bot of Afa/llt or another company! I cannot see a single element that proves that you are currently in WBT. As I said before, in my opinion, there are only five patients who are clearly on WBT here. Far from devaluing their experiences, I can say that I learned a lot from these experiences. A reasonable person will immediately notice the contradiction between what you say and what they say. Either they weren't in WBT or you aren't.
I also read your post. I'm not sure how I can believe someone who chose to stay in WBT's $4000 garbage hotel when there are $1300 hotels of the same or better standards. Moreover, you say that you drank coffee at the hotel for 40-50 dollars. I don't understand what you are trying to do by staying in a terrible hotel you paid 4000 dollars for and paying 40-50 dollars for a coffee in it, instead of staying in a better or same standart hotel for 1300 dollars.
Some of you say so such illogical things that I think they are a WBT bot. Because a lot of such irrationality only benefits WBT. I said that I came to the forum to say that I was already undecided whether to go to WBT or not and that to understand some points better. But now you are provoking me to become WBT's lawyer! This is really funny!
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I have no intention of being either a WBT bot or an antiWBT. Maybe you are a bot of Afa/llt or another company! I cannot see a single element that proves that you are currently in WBT. As I said before, in my opinion, there are only five patients who are clearly on WBT here. Far from devaluing their experiences, I can say that I learned a lot from these experiences. A reasonable person will immediately notice the contradiction between what you say and what they say. Either they weren't in WBT or you aren't.
I also read your post. I'm not sure how I can believe someone who chose to stay in WBT's $4000 garbage hotel when there are $1300 hotels of the same or better standards. Moreover, you say that you drank coffee at the hotel for 40-50 dollars. I don't understand what you are trying to do by staying in a terrible hotel you paid 4000 dollars for and paying 40-50 dollars for a coffee in it, instead of staying in a better or same standart hotel for 1300 dollars.
Some of you say so such illogical things that I think they are a WBT bot. Because a lot of such irrationality only benefits WBT. I said that I came to the forum to say that I was already undecided whether to go to WBT or not and that to understand some points better. But now you are provoking me to become WBT's lawyer! This is really funny!
I am a patient in 2020, and I hate WBT very much. It is not for you to judge me. You are fkING shill/official of WBT
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I have no intention of being either a WBT bot or an antiWBT. Maybe you are a bot of Afa/llt or another company! I cannot see a single element that proves that you are currently in WBT. As I said before, in my opinion, there are only five patients who are clearly on WBT here. Far from devaluing their experiences, I can say that I learned a lot from these experiences. A reasonable person will immediately notice the contradiction between what you say and what they say. Either they weren't in WBT or you aren't.
I also read your post. I'm not sure how I can believe someone who chose to stay in WBT's $4000 garbage hotel when there are $1300 hotels of the same or better standards. Moreover, you say that you drank coffee at the hotel for 40-50 dollars. I don't understand what you are trying to do by staying in a terrible hotel you paid 4000 dollars for and paying 40-50 dollars for a coffee in it, instead of staying in a better or same standart hotel for 1300 dollars.
Some of you say so such illogical things that I think they are a WBT bot. Because a lot of such irrationality only benefits WBT. I said that I came to the forum to say that I was already undecided whether to go to WBT or not and that to understand some points better. But now you are provoking me to become WBT's lawyer! This is really funny!
No, you are the shill and official of WBT, Stop pretending, fking dog!!!!
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I am a patient in 2020, and I hate WBT very much. It is not for you to judge me. You are fkING shill/official of WBT
You posted your first post on August 19th. You have posted 38 posts so far. And right now, do you say you are one of the WBT's patients!? Ok, this is persuasive!
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Previously, there was WBT defending rapists/murderers,
Later, there were unscrupulous lawyers defending WBT,
This kind of lawyer is even more detestable than criminals
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You posted your first post on August 19th. You have posted 38 posts so far. And right now, do you say you are one of the WBT's patients!? Ok, this is persuasive!
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64740.0 You can ask the owner of this post,who am I.
YOU fkING, I want to find you, and slap your mouth, fking dog shill/ official of fking WBT
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Why would individuals engage in slander like this on the forum? It's quite evident that this is simply an honest opinion about the company, and it appears that the company struggles to handle criticism.The thing is, also, the only good thing about the hotel is that you have friends you made through the experience, and it's better to put up with the bad situation than move. Also, understand when you have broken legs and are in pain 24/7, do you really want to get up and move and navigate a country that doesn't speak Arabic or English and end up alone in some room somewhere and still down the money you spent on the other accommodation package paying more for things like physio ? Also, telling someone, 'If you don't like it, f off basically, that's so childish and unprofessional on a business standpoint.
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You posted your first post on August 19th. You have posted 38 posts so far. And right now, do you say you are one of the WBT's patients!? Ok, this is persuasive!
Wannabefked and their Shills, all familly boom
Please take a look at my avatar. Do you like it?
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Yes !Even insults can't make murderer go to hell, but it can at least vent anger. You have the freedom to choose a doctor and we have the freedom to vent our emotions! I hope you can still remain graceful when tragedy happens to you!
It is useless to reason with WBT, it is useless to insult them, and also can’t sue them. If someone tells the truth here, will be laughed at by people like you.
This is why those victims are hate to come here ! Many patients around me who are undergoing restorative treatment even hate to discuss this topic online. They think that doing so is very tiring and affects their mood, and it does not have any benefit to their own treatment!
I guess you can’t read Chinese or are too lazy to use a translator to read the conversations I uploaded with WBT and other patients! But I don’t care about these, because the large number of chat records I uploaded have already shown that WBT is a group of intermediaries and murderers without complications management capabilities and ethics! You can freely choose to become a partner with an immoral murderer!
Actually I used to be very like you who only believed in WBT officials. Even though their past patients reminded me not to go, I still believed in the officials and actors!Now I will respect everyone's destiny!
By revealing feelings, do you mean to curse towards mothers, who have nothing to do with the events? By the same logic, if a Chinese kills an American here, should Americans kill all Chinese? When any tragedy strikes me, I will not use your method and I just will fight against whoever is responsible. I lost my father seven years ago and now my mother is struggling with many diseases. I think this fact makes me a little more sensitive.
To laugh at him that tells the truth!? Where, how and what am I laughing at? I have put your situation separately from all discussions here. Despite this, I couldn't make sense of why you accused me of laughing.
Yes, I can't read Chinese, but I translated and read all your previous images one by one. I also read the answers given to these. But you sent the same ones again, making it even more complicated. I'm just curious, why don't you include your correspondence with WBT official staff? He openly challenges you on this issue.
You may think you are like me. Maybe so. But you believed in WBT, on the contrary I am still questioning them. I keep in mind that WBT is not the only option, it may even be the worst option. I guess that's a lot different than partnering with a depraved murderer.
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By revealing feelings, do you mean to curse towards mothers, who have nothing to do with the events? By the same logic, if a Chinese kills an American here, should Americans kill all Chinese? When any tragedy strikes me, I will not use your method and I just will fight against whoever is responsible. I lost my father seven years ago and now my mother is struggling with many diseases. I think this fact makes me a little more sensitive.
To laugh at him that tells the truth!? Where, how and what am I laughing at? I have put your situation separately from all discussions here. Despite this, I couldn't make sense of why you accused me of laughing.
Yes, I can't read Chinese, but I translated and read all your previous images one by one. I also read the answers given to these. But you sent the same ones again, making it even more complicated. I'm just curious, why don't you include your correspondence with WBT official staff? He openly challenges you on this issue.
You may think you are like me. Maybe so. But you believed in WBT, on the contrary I am still questioning them. I keep in mind that WBT is not the only option, it may even be the worst option. I guess that's a lot different than partnering with a depraved murderer.
You are number 2 of WBT, right? You are here to shift the topic and cover up the sins you have created
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Why would individuals engage in slander like this on the forum? It's quite evident that this is simply an honest opinion about the company, and it appears that the company struggles to handle criticism.The thing is, also, the only good thing about the hotel is that you have friends you made through the experience, and it's better to put up with the bad situation than move. Also, understand when you have broken legs and are in pain 24/7, do you really want to get up and move and navigate a country that doesn't speak Arabic or English and end up alone in some room somewhere and still down the money you spent on the other accommodation package paying more for things like physio ? Also, telling someone, 'If you don't like it, f off basically, that's so childish and unprofessional on a business standpoint.
Maybe you're right, but it doesn't help your cause when you make everyone who doesn't think like you a WBT bot. This is very provocative and unhelpful.
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But you sent the same ones again, making it even more complicated.
Only allow you to repeatedly destroy patients, and not allow others to repeatedly send photos?
YOU fking double-standard dog-shill ,all family boom boom boom!!!
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Maybe you're right, but it doesn't help your cause when you make everyone who doesn't think like you a WBT bot. This is very provocative and unhelpful.
Number TWO of WBT, dont pretending anymore
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WannaBeTaller-Official is NiloDelphi3
NiloDelphi3 is WannaBeTaller-Official
Their responses are surprisingly similar, and they both like to reply to everyone who questions them, just like kindergarten children.
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Only allow you to repeatedly destroy patients, and not allow others to repeatedly send photos?
YOU fking double-standard dog-shill ,all family boom boom boom!!!
Number two did the best thing for someone like you who slobbers dirtyly from his mouth instead of words and he never answered you again. I will do the same thing. I guess that turns me into number two for a moment.
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I have no intention of being either a WBT bot or an antiWBT. Maybe you are a bot of Afa/llt or another company! I cannot see a single element that proves that you are currently in WBT. As I said before, in my opinion, there are only five patients who are clearly on WBT here. Far from devaluing their experiences, I can say that I learned a lot from these experiences. A reasonable person will immediately notice the contradiction between what you say and what they say. Either they weren't in WBT or you aren't.
I also read your post. I'm not sure how I can believe someone who chose to stay in WBT's $4000 garbage hotel when there are $1300 hotels of the same or better standards. Moreover, you say that you drank coffee at the hotel for 40-50 dollars. I don't understand what you are trying to do by staying in a terrible hotel you paid 4000 dollars for and paying 40-50 dollars for a coffee in it, instead of staying in a better or same standart hotel for 1300 dollars.
Some of you say so such illogical things that I think they are a WBT bot. Because a lot of such irrationality only benefits WBT. I said that I came to the forum to say that I was already undecided whether to go to WBT or not and that to understand some points better. But now you are provoking me to become WBT's lawyer! This is really funny!
There are countless temporary workers at WBT, whether you are one or not! I want to tell you if he leaves WBT's hotel, if something goes wrong with his leg, WBT will not be responsible as they not being able to earn his accommodation fee! In fact, even if the patient is in their hotel they always have an excuse to pass the buck! Because they are medically illiterate and hooligans! I've gotten to know these scammers very well!
There are so many such despicable methods in WBT, I don’t think I can finish expose all in one week ! This is not the first time WBT’s confusing billing has been complained by patients!
For example, the 5,500 US dollars that Q had recharged was quickly deducted! There are also many people who gave WBT their residence permit money, ranging from US$350 to US$750, but they finally told you that the person who issued the certificate had a car accident on the road and the money haven’t refunded to the patient! The next month, they used the same reason to swallow up the money spent by other patients to apply for residence permits!
Many WBT patients paid the fine and left Türkiye! There is also Q’s achilles tendon surgery. Other patients before were treated for free, but she was charged 1,250 euros! In fact, there was no need for her to cut Achilles tendon at all, she was only lengthened by 4 centimeters, but Yunus recommended that she cut achilles tendon!
Moreover, I want to say that you cannot hire a lawyer in Turkey without legal residence, although it is impossible for you to stay in Turkey to litigate with scammers!
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No matter what I say, the boss of WBT will have an excuse to quibble! This is the most disgusting part about being a gangster to me! When I asked his Chinese consultant why lied to other patients to smear me? He didn't answer me, and the next day WBT started publicly lying and making statements on social platforms to smear me!
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Number two did the best thing for someone like you who slobbers dirtyly from his mouth instead of words and he never answered you again. I will do the same thing. I guess that turns me into number two for a moment.
That's the same sentence, for animals, I don't need to speak human language to them.
fkING is the best processing method to you who like cover up rapists/murderers, slander victims, just like you slandered me and my friend-seriouslyinjured in 2020.
WannaBeTaller-Official is NiloDelphi3
NiloDelphi3 is WannaBeTaller-Official
Their responses are surprisingly similar, and they both like to reply to everyone who questions them, just like kindergarten children.
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Number two did the best thing for someone like you who slobbers dirtyly from his mouth instead of words and he never answered you again. I will do the same thing. I guess that turns me into number two for a moment.
Wait for me, I will gather more victims to expose your ugly mouths. This is the best civilized language I can use before fking your mother
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I have no intention of being either a WBT bot or an antiWBT. Maybe you are a bot of Afa/llt or another company! I cannot see a single element that proves that you are currently in WBT. As I said before, in my opinion, there are only five patients who are clearly on WBT here. Far from devaluing their experiences, I can say that I learned a lot from these experiences. A reasonable person will immediately notice the contradiction between what you say and what they say. Either they weren't in WBT or you aren't.
I also read your post. I'm not sure how I can believe someone who chose to stay in WBT's $4000 garbage hotel when there are $1300 hotels of the same or better standards. Moreover, you say that you drank coffee at the hotel for 40-50 dollars. I don't understand what you are trying to do by staying in a terrible hotel you paid 4000 dollars for and paying 40-50 dollars for a coffee in it, instead of staying in a better or same standart hotel for 1300 dollars.
Some of you say so such illogical things that I think they are a WBT bot. Because a lot of such irrationality only benefits WBT. I said that I came to the forum to say that I was already undecided whether to go to WBT or not and that to understand some points better. But now you are provoking me to become WBT's lawyer! This is really funny!
Of course, these are minor issues for you, as are the agency's arbitrary charges, because they are not medical malpractice. Even if they are medical malpractice, you think the number of victims speaking on the forum is not enough to convince you that WBT is a bad agency. . You don't think an agency with bad ethics and bad management can cripple patients! In fact, my tragedy was caused by my excessive trust in stupid and arrogant murderers! I also understand that different patients have different morals, otherwise why would there be sexual assault incidents in WBT!
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WBT is crazy about making money. Yunus is definitely a complication management idiot. He once recommended that a patient whose Achilles tendon was only lengthened by 4 centimeters should be thinned! This is not necessary at all! Another of his patients had ballet syndrome from the first day of surgery, and she later went to another facility for rehabilitation! If she continues to stay in WBT, her Achilles tendon will also definitely be chopped into pieces by Yunus!
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This conversation comes from a patient named Z.
He and" 83 "are the same time patients who underwent surgery by Dr. Yüksel who recommended by W in August 2020.
His problem was a dislocated fibula and nerve damage.
He suffered severe nerve damage to his lower leg after the external frame was removed.
However, WBT and their cooperating doctor at the time, Yuksel, did not admitted the diagnosis of other doctors and shifted the responsibility to Patient Z himself ,said because Z wanted to remove the frame !
This made Z very angry!
In an official statement from W in February 2021, W's boss made physician assistant Anuo became a scapegoat ,sai he pressed Z's knees too hard while removing the shelf, and that he had fired Anuo! After this, I would like to say that the nerve damage still does not stop in WBT.
Also ,Z's girlfriend who underwent calf precise at WBT has nonunion. Doctors in China said her periosteum was too severely damaged!
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Why Osteomyelitis Can’t be Cure with Antibiotics Alone?
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https://youtu.be/rOd5aG34z_8
Wannabetaller : ”the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions.’’ He denied ? hahaha? then who’s this on the video ?hahahahahaha remember your company is wannabetaller not wannabeliar :P :P :P
For the sake of their company's reputation and continuing to make money, they will keep lying and even help criminals fight back against their victims. What a ridiculous company
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The victim theory of guilt is beautifully presented here at WBT.
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I've been following this forum as a guest for a while. I have focused more on this forum, especially after the posts made regarding WBT in recent weeks. Because in March last year, I received a consultation from WBT for a 5 cm lengthening and I said that I was thinking of having surgery in December 2023. They mentioned that it would be advantageous for me to pay the deposit in advance in order to benefit from the affordable prices, but my mother had some illnesses and I did not know exactly when she would recover, so I did not feel the need to do this.
Frankly, the osteomyelitis case and the allegations of harassment greatly affected and frightened me as a woman. I'm not sure if I'll go to WBT anymore. If I am not saying that I will never go and that I have definitely given up, there are several reasons for this.
--- For some reason, allegations of harassment regarding WBT started to be made through new accounts that were opened almost at the same time. The language and mode used also raises suspicion that they are governed by a single focus. What is more interesting is that although many new accounts flagged this harassment claim, the Chinese female patient who was the subject of harassment did not post a single post about the harassment. Unlike this Chinese girl, 'user Ahri' openly shared her experiences with the harassment against her, and as far as I understand, she did not seem to blame the company for this harassment attempt.
Judging by what is written in this forum, there are many witnesses to this harassment, and there is also a video with the harasser's confession. So, despite this, it is truly surprising how this harasser was able to return to his country even though the incident was brought to court. If the purpose of those posting here is to punish the harasser and protect the girl who was harassed, I have a hard time understanding why they didn't do this while the harasser and the victim were in front of the judicial authorities.
--- Interestingly, as WBT's official account responds to the allegations, those accusing the company increasingly use insulting and profane language and move away from the focus of the issue. I also accept that there are weak points in the company's defense. But especially the correspondence between some users (like Maison, Ahri etc.)and WBT was respectful and civilized and had a certain logic.
--- What Victim of Wannabetaller went through is really sad. I can empathize with her. But in a very interesting way, she really dispersed and complicated the subject a lot. Although 'user Maison' warned her that it would be better for herself and her cause not to follow such a complicated path, she did the same thing again in the latest series. If I were her, I'd take Maison's advice ( "If you have any messages from around September 1, 2022, please feel free to upload them when you have more time.")
Besides, if there were correspondence throughout her own surgery wholly process,between her and the person who wrote on behalf of WBT official accounts, it would be great if she published them here. Because this person seems confident enough to openly challenge her to publish these correspondences.
--- Finally, the hurtful attitudes towards 'user StubbornKnucklead' made me suspect that there was a clear grudge against WBT. This person was targeted with unfair words in an interesting way, even though a lot of X-ray images and photos throughout his entire process showed that he had grown 9 cm. Moreover, even though he was one of the users that criticized WBT at some points in his previous posts.
Excellent!!! It's good to see that somebody is inquisitive. By all appearances, instead of explaining the points you touched upon, the same accounts gave the same empty responses again.
Let me add to the points you touched on: How come the victim girl, who was allegedly harassed, wanted to have her second surgery at WBT and stay at the company's hotel, even though she was left alone by the company, even though we are officially strongly against this and advised her to postpone the second surgery for her own safety!? Although she was not an official patient of the company, she had her second surgery with the help of the company's doctor in the company's hospital and is currently staying at the company's hotel.
In my opinion, the only account worth responding to is still "the victim of wannabetaller." But unfortunately, as usual, she has been relying on manipulations, falses and reduced-adjusted screenshots. Interestingly, she even shares screenshots of many correspondences that don't even belong to her/they belong to someone else. But she never shares all of her correspondence with Dr. Yunus, her consultant, and me. Where are the correspondes around September between her and Dr. Yunus. Did she forget that Maison requested herself to share them?
My investigation into the smear campaign against the company continues and is nearing an end. As I said previously, due to this investigation, I may not be active on this forum for a while. But I will be back again soon to show which things are manipulations and wrongs.
Meantime you stated that WBT official's defence has some weaknesses. What are they in your opinion? I hope I will be able to dissipate them as much as I can.
Lastly, I strongly advise you to stay away from discussions on the forum. If you have any questions/confusions, please contact our consultant who you have spoken to before. Thus, you can learn some truths more clearly and concretely.
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Excellent!!! It's good to see that somebody is inquisitive. By all appearances, instead of explaining the points you touched upon, the same accounts gave the same empty responses again.
Let me add to the points you touched on: How come the victim girl, who was allegedly harassed, wanted to have her second surgery at WBT and stay at the company's hotel, even though she was left alone by the company, even though we are officially strongly against this and advised her to postpone the second surgery for her own safety!? Although she was not an official patient of the company, she had her second surgery with the help of the company's doctor in the company's hospital and is currently staying at the company's hotel.
In my opinion, the only account worth responding to is still "the victim of wannabetaller." But unfortunately, as usual, she has been relying on manipulations, falses and reduced-adjusted screenshots. Interestingly, she even shares screenshots of many correspondences that don't even belong to her/they belong to someone else. But she never shares all of her correspondence with Dr. Yunus, her consultant, and me. Where are the correspondes around September between her and Dr. Yunus. Did she forget that Maison requested herself to share them?
My investigation into the smear campaign against the company continues and is nearing an end. As I said previously, due to this investigation, I may not be active on this forum for a while. But I will be back again soon to show which things are manipulations and wrongs.
Meantime you stated that WBT official's defence has some weaknesses. What are they in your opinion? I hope I will be able to dissipate them as much as I can.
Lastly, I strongly advise you to stay away from discussions on the forum. If you have any questions/confusions, please contact our consultant who you have spoken to before. Thus, you can learn some truths more clearly and concretely.
WannaBeTaller-Official is NiloDelphi3
NiloDelphi3 is WannaBeTaller-Official
Their responses are surprisingly similar, and they both like to reply to everyone who questions them, just like kindergarten children.
Now, he's started directing and acting himself.He reply himself, its so interesting. What a fkING WBT!!!
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I really got irritated by how immune to substantiated opprobriums WBT is in this post.
Money really creates demons.
We LL patients are not fking your guys' generators of money. We are human beings. I really wish justice will come and your dogcrap company can be bankrupted.
I also laugh at anyone who is still planning to do LL in WBT.
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Excellent!!! It's good to see that somebody is inquisitive. By all appearances, instead of explaining the points you touched upon, the same accounts gave the same empty responses again.
Let me add to the points you touched on: How come the victim girl, who was allegedly harassed, wanted to have her second surgery at WBT and stay at the company's hotel, even though she was left alone by the company, even though we are officially strongly against this and advised her to postpone the second surgery for her own safety!? Although she was not an official patient of the company, she had her second surgery with the help of the company's doctor in the company's hospital and is currently staying at the company's hotel.
In my opinion, the only account worth responding to is still "the victim of wannabetaller." But unfortunately, as usual, she has been relying on manipulations, falses and reduced-adjusted screenshots. Interestingly, she even shares screenshots of many correspondences that don't even belong to her/they belong to someone else. But she never shares all of her correspondence with Dr. Yunus, her consultant, and me. Where are the correspondes around September between her and Dr. Yunus. Did she forget that Maison requested herself to share them?
My investigation into the smear campaign against the company continues and is nearing an end. As I said previously, due to this investigation, I may not be active on this forum for a while. But I will be back again soon to show which things are manipulations and wrongs.
Meantime you stated that WBT official's defence has some weaknesses. What are they in your opinion? I hope I will be able to dissipate them as much as I can.
Lastly, I strongly advise you to stay away from discussions on the forum. If you have any questions/confusions, please contact our consultant who you have spoken to before. Thus, you can learn some truths more clearly and concretely.
"The reason why we don't send screenshots is for conservative patients" ×
The reason why we don't send screenshots is that there are no screenshots that are beneficial to us. √
WannaBeTall - Shameless as ever, continue to pretend and lie.
To such a shameless person, I want to say, can I fk your mother? after all, you like to shelter prisoners, stigmatizing victims, so can you come to shelter me who fk your mother to death.
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Hello, I am the quality control manager of the company. It is my responsibility to ensure that all services provided to patients, from transfers to accommodations, from physical therapy to medical dressing, are carried out according to the company's quality policy. Therefore, I will try to respond to each claim made by the patient in a detailed manner, without compromising honesty and transparency. In fact, forums are places where competitors criticize each other, and real patient reviews get mixed with fictitious ones, creating a risk of falling into the trap of manipulated information while trying to access accurate information. For this reason, as a principle, I prefer not to engage in discussions on forums. However, this time, I want to intervene because I feel a responsibility toward the company, the employees, and all our patients who return home with fulfilled dreams.
1- The patient stated that the doctor’s professionalism is a positive aspect of the company. Yes, our doctor and hospital team are indeed very good at their jobs. However, we also expected him to mention how excellent and professional the physical therapy and dressing services, which are part of the hotel-like amenities for patients, are. If we speak based on the statement of the doctor, in which the patient stated that he was professional, "A successful limb lengthening surgery journey is only 30%, the remaining 70% depends on successful physical therapy, the patient's commitment to the therapy, and dressing services." From what I observed, despite the patient's complaints about the pool, food, price, and many other things, they did not have any complaints about the current health of their legs. No infection or any leg issues at all. This alone should be enough to show that the company's professionalism is not limited to just the doctor.
2- I also have to agree with the patient's criticisms regarding the pool and gym facilities. The patient is right in this matter. However, there are some points that I cannot help but explain. Our company moved to an affiliate of the international brand Wyndham, a hotel, about two months ago to provide better service to our patients. During the relocation negotiations, the hotel was still making arrangements for the pool and gym, according to the information provided to us. We relied on this information and decided to move with the expectation that the pool and gym would be operational shortly. Unfortunately, due to various reasons, the hotel could not fulfill its commitment, and the pool and gym did not become operational during the two months after our move. (Based on the information given to me, the pool is currently operational and will be made accessible for disabled individuals.) The patient's accusation of deception by the company to deceive customers is either due to their malice or ignorance. Patients are not obliged to stay at the hotel, which is our company's business partner. Accommodation is just one of the options offered by the company and is not mandatory. After seeing the hotel, we refunded the accommodation packages to those who did not wish to stay there, and they stayed at their preferred homes or other hotels. This patient could have also chosen to cancel their accommodation package and stay at a hotel with a pool or even a jacuzzi. In fact, dozens of our patients stayed in other places during this two-month period, not at this hotel, and we continued to provide all the services to them with utmost care.
3- The physiotherapy room is designed to accommodate the treatment services of four patients simultaneously, according to the standards set by doctors and physiotherapy specialists. Assuming our patients adhere to their physiotherapy appointments, it is presumed they will achieve the maximum benefit from each session. The excellent success rate in our patients' physiotherapy treatments demonstrates that this assumption is being met accordingly.
4- The inadequacy of equipment has been a longstanding issue raised by patients. Equipment purchases are determined based on the recommendations of doctors and physical therapy specialists. Our company has empowered experts to identify and purchase all kinds of equipment that will help patients continue their physical therapies in an optimal manner. Our specialists believe that many fancy devices are merely part of a commercial marketing tactic, intended to impress but lacking substantial benefits. When I conveyed the complaints about equipment diversity to our physical therapy specialists, they responded as follows: "Many devices used by rival companies are actually just for show. If they had any real benefits, we would demand their purchase based on the authority granted to us. This way, our work would be easier, and we wouldn't have to exert so much effort. Success in physical therapy depends on a diligent physical therapist and the patient's personal effort in harmony with the physical therapy specialist.
5- When it comes to the devices that are reported as faulty, despite warnings, some of our patients are taking the functioning massage guns to their rooms. When we notice this, we order new ones, just like we did the other day. A new bicycle has also been purchased, but it is not being effectively used either due to improper usage or tampering with the pedals and seat pins. As soon as the malfunction is noticed, we intervene, and if it cannot be repaired, we immediately order a replacement. In the physical therapy room, we have four beds - three fixed and one with a movable system. One of the beds with a movable system malfunctioned, and due to the delay in obtaining the spare part and repairing it, it was temporarily used as a fixed bed. (According to the last information I received, all that remains is to install the supplied spare part in the system.) In essence, whether a bed has a movable or fixed system has little significance on the success of the applied physical therapy, and since the patient mentioned a problem with the bed and not with their legs, it seems that he has had a successful physical therapy process.
As for the ventilation of the physical therapy room, it is true that there was a problem caused by the central air conditioning system in the hotel's property, specifically in the ventilation ducts providing air to some rooms. Unfortunately, this has caused discomfort for the patients in hot weather. We have consistently made efforts with the hotel to resolve this issue, as it falls under the hotel's ownership and responsibility. Additionally, we purchased a portable air conditioner to try to alleviate the problem to some extent. (Based on the latest information I have, the ventilation issue in the physical therapy room has been resolved six days ago.)
6- While the direct criticisms related to the hotel should perhaps be addressed by the hotel itself, I still want to share my observations from the times I visited the hotel. A- As I mentioned before, the hotel operates as a subsidiary of the world-renowned international hotel chain, Wyndham, and it is relatively new in service. I must admit that being a newly established hotel comes with some challenges. However, among these issues, there is no problem with the hotel staff being rude and disrespectful. Undoubtedly, there are dozens of staff members in this hotel, and it's possible that a few of them might be rude or impolite. But the same issue applies to our patients as well. While some patients are praised for their politeness by the hotel staff, there are also patients who are claimed to be rude and disrespectful by the hotel staff. This patient is probably one of them 😊 I guess expecting people from different nationalities to exhibit high standards of conduct and ethics in a world where even people of the same nation fight with each other would be unrealistic. B- The quality of the hotel's food can certainly be debatable, but I cannot give an opinion on that since I haven't had lunch or dinner there yet. However, I was quite surprised by the patient's claims of finding worms in the breakfast. Because I have had breakfast at this hotel at least 15 times and have never encountered such a situation. To be honest, the variety and quality were satisfying from my perspective. Not only me but also six of the company's employees who have been having their breakfast here from the beginning haven't mentioned anything about their breakfast being spiced up by worms. I wish the patient had taken photos of these adorable worms visiting them during breakfast and informed us immediately, so we wouldn't have to learn about this worm story from a forum now. C- Actually, it shouldn't be a problem for the patient even if the evening menu of the hotel is just 1% of the total options available. There are hundreds of establishments around the hotel that provide services and accept online orders, and this option is one of the reasons why we chose this hotel. Well, the patient could have used this option to order the desired food, and we have a staff member entirely dedicated to handling these orders from the patients. D- (Although it is almost finished,) it would be harsh to criticize the patient's claim of being confined to their room for months due to ongoing renovations in the hotel's pool, terrace, and gym. However, the situation is not as dire as the patient suggests. The hotel has a lobby and an integrated common sitting area. Furthermore, the hotel rooms have a one-bedroom suite concept, which offers a more spacious arrangement compared to standard hotel rooms. As previously mentioned, patients are not obligated to stay in this hotel, and we already provide services to many patients who choose to stay elsewhere according to their preferences. Patients are not obliged to consider either the patient's complaints or my defense when deciding whether to stay in this hotel. After personally seeing the hotel, they can make their decision freely. E- We didn't know that we had fascist staff who spoke Turkish with the patient even though he or she didn't speak Turkish 😊 If the patient shares the names of these staff members with us and if we find any intention behind their behavior, I guarantee that we will terminate their employment immediately. Currently, our staff has an accepted level of English to provide the services promised by the company in the contracts, in case the patient doesn't wish to engage in philosophical discussions about Jean-Jacques Rousseau or Hegel with them.
Until now, I have preferred to respond to the patient's criticisms by occasionally acknowledging their perspective and sometimes using humor. However, in this final point, there will be no humor, and I will not agree with the patient in any way. This is because, considering that the patient has neither directly nor indirectly suffered any harm in the incident they mentioned and is not one of the parties involved, I believe their intention is not to offer constructive criticism but rather to maliciously discredit the company and trap forum members into biases against the company.
7- All the individuals involved in the harassment and injury incident mentioned by the patient are our patients. As a company, we strictly adhere to the principle of impartiality in resolving any issues that may arise between patients, with the sole priority of calming the situation and preventing further harm to our patients. In this particular case, we have advised each party involved to seek their rights through independent legal channels by offering to provide them with lawyers. This is because each patient has denied the other party's claims and put forth their own. Regarding the injury incident, the patient who suffered a leg injury claimed that he was attacked without reason, while the other patient who caused the injury claimed that he was forced to defend himself in response to an attack against him. As for the aspect of harassment, the female patient who experienced it accused the other patient of the act, while the accused patient denied such actions. In such a complex situation, it was not up to us but the judicial authorities to determine who was right and who was wrong. Therefore, we encouraged the parties to seek their rights through legal means, and during this process, our company did its best. The party accused of harassment and assault is seeking his rights through legal means and hired a Turkish lawyer. The legal process is currently ongoing, and it would be inappropriate for me to comment further, as sharing more information could violate legal confidentiality. As I am not in a legal position to provide an opinion, I refrain from making any comments. Currently, all the patients involved in the incident have completed their processes and returned to their countries. If the serious events mentioned by the patient on the forum, such as near-death experiences or assault, had actually occurred, Turkish Criminal Law would have imposed precautionary measures and the accused person would not have been allowed to leave the country. Hence, the claim that 'the company disregarded the incident and provided no support to the patients involved, solely focusing on money and prestige' is highly unethical and baseless. Moreover, even if such an incident had occurred, why would our female patient, who claims to have been harassed, refuse to accept the offer of being relocated to another hotel for her safety and insist on staying at our company's hotel on her own will? This alone should be enough to demonstrate her trust in our company. Furthermore, why would the same patient convey her request to stay at the same hotel for her second surgery? Despite our insistence on recommending other hotels with concealed addresses for patients involved in the incident due to various security concerns, why did this female patient insist on staying at our hotel? And why did she want to complete her second surgery process here?
If we were thinking about money, would we recommend this patient we are worried about to have her second surgery done somewhere else? We kindly recommended her to do the second surgery somewhere else.
The long and the short, it is unacceptable persecution for a patient who was not involved in the incident and did not suffer any harm from the events, to adopt an unfair and unjust attitude that exceeds the boundaries of constructive criticism towards our company based on an event he is not familiar with.
For example, if this patient, who displays this unacceptable behavior, were friends with another patient of ours and later his friend whom he befriended stole his money and caused harm, would our company be held responsible for his/her wrongdoing? If we did not encourage or assist that patient in stealing the other patient's money and causing harm, which is already unthinkable, can the company be held accountable for its actions? We embrace all of our patients, regardless of their religion, language, race, or color, and strive to do our best to help them achieve their dreams. We do not possess a miraculous ability to determine who is a saint and who is a devil. If we did, we would identify and never allow such ungrateful and malicious patients to approach our company, despite all our dedication, efforts, closeness, and the successful treatment we have provided.
We have confidence in ourselves. We do not shy away from our mistakes and deficiencies but confront them and try to overcome them. We will continue to strive to do better and achieve the best.
In front of multiple evidence-supported opprobriums but still shameless and unconcerned... Emm... I really hope guys can realize how much of a horrible devil WBT is and stop thinking about doing LL there. You guys really teach me how shameless a person can be. I am really feeling sorry for my pathetic Chinese comrades.
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In front of multiple evidence-supported opprobriums but still shameless and unconcerned... Emm... I really hope guys can realize how much of a horrible devil WBT is and stop thinking about doing LL there. You guys really teach me how shameless a person can be. I am really feeling sorry for my pathetic Chinese comrades.
WannaBeTaller not only destroyed many patients, but also ruined this forum. Originally, this forum was a place for patients to share surgical experiences, recommend good doctors, and avoid bad doctors. Now it has become a venue for WBT's sophistry I am very sad.
Also, I wouldn't believe that a poor victim would slander WBT for no reason. What benefits would it gain?
However, I can believe that WBT will slander and spread rumors about a victim for the sake of reputation, because it continues to make dirty money.
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Boyo, women lie about being 'raped' all the time, it's an epidemic. Plenty of women who willingly had sxx and then regretted it AFTER, only to turn around and cry rape when it was nothing of the sort.
So yes, allegations are just allegations, not proof, and the correct term is 'alleged'. The company signed a legal contract with presumably both patients to provide them limb lengthening services, and they're still bound by said contract to both patients as until a judgement is handed down by a court the guy is completely innocent. So yes, they have to care for both of the patients and provide the services which they're legally obligated to, this is nothing more than an internal dispute between 2 patients and is actually nothing to do with the company who seem to have taken the step to separate the patients by having one of them move hotels as a token of good will anyway.
I'm not in Turkey, didn't do my leg lengthening in Turkey, and since I'm only going to lengthen one segment, I'll never be doing LL in Turkey as I've got it done already elsewhere. I'm well aware of the shady reputation of some Turkish places, and there's plenty of actual problems once could bring up about various clinics in that country. But 2 patients having a dispute, no matter the severity of that dispute, isn't anything to do with the company providing limb lengthening services.
What a ridiculously retarded point you've made ;D. You are saying that woman fell for a guy there but regretted ml with him so that she was smearing that guy as a rapist? What do you think of women as? Retards like you who would like to convict men into prisons just for no reason? This washing-up of yours is really one of the biggest laughable jokes I've ever seen.
Also you are saying about proof. What about your proof that can substantiate your retarded point that women always lie about being raped by guys with who they regret ml? Do you have any data? No. Did you reason soundly? No. You shills of WBT and WBT are really biggest shameless demons over the human history.
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WannaBeTaller not only destroyed many patients, but also ruined this forum. Originally, this forum was a place for patients to share surgical experiences, recommend good doctors, and avoid bad doctors. Now it has become a venue for WBT's sophistry I am very sad.
Also, I wouldn't believe that a poor victim would slander WBT for no reason. What benefits would it gain?
However, I can believe that WBT will slander and spread rumors about a victim for the sake of reputation, because it continues to make dirty money.
The mods were really dead because even with a zero IQ you can def tell how horrible WBT is but the mods are still standing by and have yet to take any action against WBT. I really wish at least LLers here can give up thinking about doing LL there. You can't really save money on LL. LL is a deadly serious surgery and until you have enough moeny for you to go to West to do this surgery is it *highly* suggested that you guys just not go to anywhere else including this dogcrap WBT to do this surgery, unless you want your body to be tortured.
The moral of the story: Just don't go to WBT to do this surgery to save your money and go to better places. Your body is really not a joke.
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The mods were really dead because even with a zero IQ you can def tell how horrible WBT is but the mods are still standing by and have yet to take any action against WBT. I really wish at least LLers here can give up thinking about doing LL there. You can't really save money on LL. LL is a deadly serious surgery and until you have enough moeny for you to go to West to do this surgery is it *highly* suggested that you guys just do not go to anywhere else including this dogcrap WBT to do this surgery, unless you want your body to be tortured.
Their advertising and marketing are doing too well. I hope at least the people on this forum can give up their plan to go to WBT for surgery.
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WBT is not the only lengthening company in the world. They also are not the only company I have talked to and consulted to. Hence I don't need to convince myself of WBT. I'm studying my master's degree in philosophy. Philosophy teaches us to look critically. I also look at the issue critically.
If approximately 30+ patients who went to WBT agreed with the above statements, I would not need to look at the issue critically, because if more than 30 people say the same thing, they are probably telling the truth. But as far as I can see, in the posts about WBT, the number of patients who are obviously real WBT patients does not exceed five. (Sanfranciso1-you-, Ahri, StubbornKnucklead, Shadowhawk, Qwerdbf) The common feature of these patients is that none of them mention a health problem. They appear to be more involved in the matter regarding hotel issues and harassment allegations. (I keep 'victim of wannabetaller' separately. I think she's a former patient. Moreover, her problem is separate and more important than everything else.)
I read the posts of the WBT official and all other users. Which responds of the WBT official do you mean?
“Philosophy teaches us to look critically”
LOL you are really funny. What I looked critically was the fact that this account of yours was created and right after that your first post was your washing-up. Do you think anyone will believe in it? And please don't say you majored in Philosophy because you are offending Philosophy students! ;D
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Their advertising and marketing are doing too well. I hope at least the people on this forum can give up their plan to go to WBT for surgery.
Yeah. This post deserves to be bumped persistently. The more people who see this post there are, the more people who will benefit from seeing this post there are.
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Yes, it's really weird!! A "philosophy student" comes along and touches some great points by looking critically. Then, I intensify the challenge by stating that these points are well established. Later!!!? Suddenly, a "sorcerer" who has never ever been involved in the matter before comes and tries to destroy these well-established points and the intensified challenge with his "sorcerous stick"!!! So meaningful!!!
Man, whether you accept it or not, Turkey is still one of the most popular destinations for health tourism and WBT is a part of this popularity.
https://medfort2023izmir.com/tr/3806-bilimsel-program
Do you see this? Just three days ago, it was a well-attended congress related to orthopedics and lengthening with important names such as Donghoon Lee, Peter Thaller, Metin Küçükkaya attending. This is an important indicator showing the importance of Turkey in health tourism and WBT is an important part of that. Our doctor was also there and had the opportunity to meet and exchange ideas with many doctors, including Donghoon.
The words of a highly-starred sir member will not be able to turn the manipulations into a reality, even if this member is a "sorcerer"!! I guess you need to be a more qualified "sorcerer" to be able to make manipulations into a reality!! Try again!!
Keep laughing at those who prefer WBT. Let us also smile with the happiness of having sent more than 30 patients home in just three months, having achieved their goals.
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Firstly, no one wants anyone to know they've had limb lengthening surgery, Secondly, a foreigner filing a lawsuit abroad requires a lot of time and money.
I am so sorry, I dont see it carefully.....
Chinese lawyers and police said it should go back to Turkey, where the incident occurred, to file a lawsuit and collect evidence, but Turkish law does not recognize WeChat chat records as evidence except in China.
If these intermediaries were in China, they would be sentenced for fraud! Medical intermediaries are not allowed to exist in China!
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Yes, it's really weird!! A "philosophy student" comes along and touches some great points by looking critically. Then, I intensify the challenge by stating that these points are well established. Later!!!? Suddenly, a "sorcerer" who has never ever been involved in the matter before comes and tries to destroy these well-established points and the intensified challenge with his "sorcerous stick"!!! So meaningful!!!
Man, whether you accept it or not, Turkey is still one of the most popular destinations for health tourism and WBT is a part of this popularity.
https://medfort2023izmir.com/tr/3806-bilimsel-program
Do you see this? Just three days ago, it was a well-attended congress related to orthopedics and lengthening with important names such as Donghoon Lee, Peter Thaller, Metin Küçükkaya attending. This is an important indicator showing the importance of Turkey in health tourism and WBT is an important part of that. Our doctor was also there and had the opportunity to meet and exchange ideas with many doctors, including Donghoon.
The words of a highly-starred sir member will not be able to turn the manipulations into a reality, even if this member is a "sorcerer"!! I guess you need to be a more qualified "sorcerer" to be able to make manipulations into a reality!! Try again!!
Keep laughing at those who prefer WBT. Let us also smile with the happiness of having sent more than 30 patients home in just three months, having achieved their goals.
Because he is a smart person who can distinguish right from wrong. And your actions, such as harboring criminals, defaming victims, and destroying the legs of patients, have already caused public outrage. How can people like you change, no change, only can be killed.
To such a shameless person, I want to say, can I fk your mother? can you come to shelter me who fk your mother to death.
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Yes, it's really weird!! A "philosophy student" comes along and touches some great points by looking critically. Then, I intensify the challenge by stating that these points are well established. Later!!!? Suddenly, a "sorcerer" who has never ever been involved in the matter before comes and tries to destroy these well-established points and the intensified challenge with his "sorcerous stick"!!! So meaningful!!!
Man, whether you accept it or not, Turkey is still one of the most popular destinations for health tourism and WBT is a part of this popularity.
https://medfort2023izmir.com/tr/3806-bilimsel-program
Do you see this? Just three days ago, it was a well-attended congress related to orthopedics and lengthening with important names such as Donghoon Lee, Peter Thaller, Metin Küçükkaya attending. This is an important indicator showing the importance of Turkey in health tourism and WBT is an important part of that. Our doctor was also there and had the opportunity to meet and exchange ideas with many doctors, including Donghoon.
The words of a highly-starred sir member will not be able to turn the manipulations into a reality, even if this member is a "sorcerer"!! I guess you need to be a more qualified "sorcerer" to be able to make manipulations into a reality!! Try again!!
Keep laughing at those who prefer WBT. Let us also smile with the happiness of having sent more than 30 patients home in just three months, having achieved their goals.
The way you used the extended finish to show off as a surgical success is silly!
If lengthening finish is something worth showing off, then it has been 2 and a half years since I completed thigh precision at Livelifetaller. But I never showed off it!
Also, don’t be naive and think that just because you took a photo with Lee Dong-hoon as a marketing gimmick, you can gain his abilities! He said that his skills will only be passed on to his successor!
When I sent my video photos to his assistant last year, he was shocked!
He said that many doctors who are not capable of managing complications are still doing CLL. When problems arise, the doctors shift the responsibility to the patients, and the patients cannot get compensation from the hospital. In the end, it is the patients who suffer!
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Yes, it's really weird!! A "philosophy student" comes along and touches some great points by looking critically. Then, I intensify the challenge by stating that these points are well established. Later!!!? Suddenly, a "sorcerer" who has never ever been involved in the matter before comes and tries to destroy these well-established points and the intensified challenge with his "sorcerous stick"!!! So meaningful!!!
Man, whether you accept it or not, Turkey is still one of the most popular destinations for health tourism and WBT is a part of this popularity.
https://medfort2023izmir.com/tr/3806-bilimsel-program
Do you see this? Just three days ago, it was a well-attended congress related to orthopedics and lengthening with important names such as Donghoon Lee, Peter Thaller, Metin Küçükkaya attending. This is an important indicator showing the importance of Turkey in health tourism and WBT is an important part of that. Our doctor was also there and had the opportunity to meet and exchange ideas with many doctors, including Donghoon.
The words of a highly-starred sir member will not be able to turn the manipulations into a reality, even if this member is a "sorcerer"!! I guess you need to be a more qualified "sorcerer" to be able to make manipulations into a reality!! Try again!!
Keep laughing at those who prefer WBT. Let us also smile with the happiness of having sent more than 30 patients home in just three months, having achieved their goals.
There are many patients who don’t have money to go to the United States, Korea, and Germany for surgery. I can’t stop them from going to Turkey to gamble! But I will not give Türkiye WBT any chance to discredit me!
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There are many victims of WBT on the forum. They must have painful experiences at WBT. We don’t know each other, but I can feel that they hate WBT as much as I do!
If you think I’m the only victim of WBT, that’s ridiculous!
Most victims will choose to remain silent and hide themselves.
I will also return to my own life. I cannot live in hatred forever. This will affect my mood and the family who love me!
But if you see WBT slandering me again, please send it to my email address and I will come up with evidence to refute him!
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I admit that yunus is a good doctor and the physiotherapists are friendly, but the management of the company is a bunch of rubbish.
Mabey......... after all I once thought the same thing as you!
Until he suggested that Q, who had only lengthened 4 centimeters, cut the Achilles tendon by yunus, Until he made the patient's calf precise became genu valgus and fibula dislocation, until he caused me chronic osteomyelitis! Another patient said that he started to suffer from ballet syndrome on the first day after Yunus performed the surgery. He had to go to Afa physiotherapy, otherwise he would also have his Achilles tendon sliced by Yunus!
August 14, 2023, someone said in the comment area that my post saved a patient like me at WBT. When the pus from the wound sprayed everywhere in the physical therapy room, the nurse said it was normal, and the patient had to call an ambulance to go to the hospital alone. . However, W’s boss believed that the infection was caused by the uncleanness of the room, so he chose to clean the hotel room as a way to deal with it!
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Turkey ranks fifth globally in cosmetic surgeries. To get into a medical school there, students must ace the entrance test taken by 2 million people annually. This test is like ten times harder than the SAT; in comparison, the SAT seems trivial. You can easily find these test questions with a quick online search. The correlation coefficient between the SAT and IQ is 0.82, suggesting a strong correlation between the university entrance exam and IQ. This means that these medical doctors have a really high IQs. It's unfair to defame Turkish doctors; they are highly skilled, nearly on par with American doctors. If they had stopped offering the LON method, the risk of infections would be nearly zero, but then the majority wouldn't have access to this procedure.
If the infection occurred during the operation, the patient would be justified in accusing the doctor and Wannabetaller. But as far as I understand, the Chinese patient developed an infection weeks after the surgery. She was Dr. Yuksel Yurttas's patient and didn't even stay at Wannabetaller's facility. When Dr. Yurttas refused to treat her, Dr. Yunus agreed to see her, even though she wasn't originally his patient. The lower leg is susceptible to infection due to its thin tissue. I've personally witnessed someone touch and poke the pin sites with bare fingers. Imagine if that person blamed the company or nurse for an infection. Fortunately, he didn't contract one, but he frequently fiddled with his wounds. Once, he even removed the bandages and waited a day.
Please stop your publicity, it sounds so fake! When I read the content of your post and the tone of praise, I can infer that you are a staff member of Wannabetaller, a diary writer, and an actor!We were deceived by patients like you in the past!WBT’s boss’ daily job is also to keep a diary and attack and smear victims!
Anyway, what I want to say is that in the X-ray of your thigh, the line of force is distorted, the leg is O-shaped, and the bone callus is not straight. This angle will cause uneven stress on the bones! I have seen a callus like yours grow very well but fracture, she is in China for the 3rd year of treatment!
WBT also has a patient who had a posterior thigh O-shaped leg surgery just like you. He has already undergone Ilizarov repair surgery in China!
Of course there are infections in China, but no patient has developed osteomyelitis due to pinhole infection, let alone chronic osteomyelitis!
The most important thing is that Chinese doctors treat patients with an attitude of bearing responsibility to the end! No argument when patients scold, there is no such thing as attacking, slandering or threatening patients!
In short, there is no example of anyone in China being treated with such a bad attitude by WBT like me!
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Turkey ranks fifth globally in cosmetic surgeries. To get into a medical school there, students must ace the entrance test taken by 2 million people annually. This test is like ten times harder than the SAT; in comparison, the SAT seems trivial. You can easily find these test questions with a quick online search. The correlation coefficient between the SAT and IQ is 0.82, suggesting a strong correlation between the university entrance exam and IQ. This means that these medical doctors have a really high IQs. It's unfair to defame Turkish doctors; they are highly skilled, nearly on par with American doctors. If they had stopped offering the LON method, the risk of infections would be nearly zero, but then the majority wouldn't have access to this procedure.
If the infection occurred during the operation, the patient would be justified in accusing the doctor and Wannabetaller. But as far as I understand, the Chinese patient developed an infection weeks after the surgery. She was Dr. Yuksel Yurttas's patient and didn't even stay at Wannabetaller's facility. When Dr. Yurttas refused to treat her, Dr. Yunus agreed to see her, even though she wasn't originally his patient. The lower leg is susceptible to infection due to its thin tissue. I've personally witnessed someone touch and poke the pin sites with bare fingers. Imagine if that person blamed the company or nurse for an infection. Fortunately, he didn't contract one, but he frequently fiddled with his wounds. Once, he even removed the bandages and waited a day.
I have never stayed in your hotel? Really? You always have no ability to manage complications and only lying and smearing the patients!
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Turkey ranks fifth globally in cosmetic surgeries. To get into a medical school there, students must ace the entrance test taken by 2 million people annually. This test is like ten times harder than the SAT; in comparison, the SAT seems trivial. You can easily find these test questions with a quick online search. The correlation coefficient between the SAT and IQ is 0.82, suggesting a strong correlation between the university entrance exam and IQ. This means that these medical doctors have a really high IQs. It's unfair to defame Turkish doctors; they are highly skilled, nearly on par with American doctors. If they had stopped offering the LON method, the risk of infections would be nearly zero, but then the majority wouldn't have access to this procedure.
If the infection occurred during the operation, the patient would be justified in accusing the doctor and Wannabetaller. But as far as I understand, the Chinese patient developed an infection weeks after the surgery. She was Dr. Yuksel Yurttas's patient and didn't even stay at Wannabetaller's facility. When Dr. Yurttas refused to treat her, Dr. Yunus agreed to see her, even though she wasn't originally his patient. The lower leg is susceptible to infection due to its thin tissue. I've personally witnessed someone touch and poke the pin sites with bare fingers. Imagine if that person blamed the company or nurse for an infection. Fortunately, he didn't contract one, but he frequently fiddled with his wounds. Once, he even removed the bandages and waited a day.
I don’t want to mention Yüksel, I am a patient of WBT, all my expenses are paid to WBT! If I need to contact the doctor myself, what is your role?Don’t try to throw me to Yüksel! Yuksel is a doctor that WBT has highly recommended to me before! The actor hired by WBT have done a very good job of promoting Yüksel everywhere. You have been promoting Yüksel before, but when there are many problems, you want to put all the blame on Yüksel alone as the scapegoat! And you just find another doctor and continue your business! Loopholes in international law saved you!
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If the infection occurred during the operation, the patient would be justified in accusing the doctor and Wannabetaller.
Ignorance of medical skills is not a bargaining chip for you to evade responsibility! I paid a heavy price for trusting someone like you who doesn't know medical skills! Do you know what late-onset osteomyelitis is? Your Yunus must not understand either! There is no need to explain medical knowledge to a rogue illiterate. The cause of the infection always is not focus point , focus point is that it could have been controlled through debridement earlier!The focus is on your barbaric attitude !
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Turkey ranks fifth globally in cosmetic surgeries. To get into a medical school there, students must ace the entrance test taken by 2 million people annually. This test is like ten times harder than the SAT; in comparison, the SAT seems trivial. You can easily find these test questions with a quick online search. The correlation coefficient between the SAT and IQ is 0.82, suggesting a strong correlation between the university entrance exam and IQ. This means that these medical doctors have a really high IQs. It's unfair to defame Turkish doctors; they are highly skilled, nearly on par with American doctors. If they had stopped offering the LON method, the risk of infections would be nearly zero, but then the majority wouldn't have access to this procedure.
If the infection occurred during the operation, the patient would be justified in accusing the doctor and Wannabetaller. But as far as I understand, the Chinese patient developed an infection weeks after the surgery. She was Dr. Yuksel Yurttas's patient and didn't even stay at Wannabetaller's facility. When Dr. Yurttas refused to treat her, Dr. Yunus agreed to see her, even though she wasn't originally his patient. The lower leg is susceptible to infection due to its thin tissue. I've personally witnessed someone touch and poke the pin sites with bare fingers. Imagine if that person blamed the company or nurse for an infection. Fortunately, he didn't contract one, but he frequently fiddled with his wounds. Once, he even removed the bandages and waited a day.
I am really wondering whether u r making a sesquipedalian big joke or you are really being serious. Talk about IQ??? When did we say these doctors had low IQs? The issue is their attitudes towards patients' feedbacks which are however not related to IQ. And I am majoring in Quantitative Psychology and seeing from what I've learned difficulty does not speak neither the correlation between one test and IQ nor the 'g-loading' of it(search it if you don't know what is 'g-loading'). I ask you to flip over in the air for thousands of times within one second and would you say this test has 0.999999 g-loading or correlation with IQ?
And what is the point defaming a surgeon for a patient?
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Turkish doctors; they are highly skilled, nearly on par with American doctors. If they had stopped offering the LON method, the risk of infections would be nearly zero, but then the majority wouldn't have access to this procedure.
Stop using your ignorance to act like a medical expert on this forum!! I have seen precise osteomyelitis accidents with my own eyes! And WBT had precise case osteomyelitis in 2020, and the patient was treated with Ilizarov in China! Even though I am exposing them, they still insist to publicity that they have no failures case !
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I'm curious, isn't this a place for patients to share their experiences? Why are there intermediaries here cunningly arguing and shirking responsibility? Why not spend money and time on treating and compensating victims, and hire useless sophists to waste their time here in public relations?
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In July, I came to WBT for inquiry, and in just a few days, I lost thousands of dollars, which I kept in the safe box. When I went to find WBT, they were perfunctory and the monitoring was always useless at critical moments. WBT is really a paradise for criminals, with thieves, robbers, and rapists everywhere
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In July, I came to WBT for inquiry, and in just a few days, I lost thousands of dollars, which I kept in the safe box. When I went to find WBT, they were perfunctory and the monitoring was always useless at critical moments. WBT is really a paradise for criminals, with thieves, robbers, and rapists everywhere
Too bad, a travel agency frequented by the police!
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Evidence? Im trying to determine how much of this is true. I believe that something happened to a chinese patients years ago but besides that its just frivolous stuff and non of it has evidence... I also wonder why youd bring thosands of dollars in cash? Seems like a braindead move...
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Evidence? Im trying to determine how much of this is true. I believe that something happened to a chinese patients years ago but besides that its just frivolous stuff and non of it has evidence... I also wonder why youd bring thosands of dollars in cash? Seems like a braindead move...
You can just be like the boss of WBT and say that even I have paid them rent for 4 months, but he lies everywhere and says that I have never stayed in their institution! I uploaded my transaction records and the scammer still had reasons to quibble! But I don't care! There are other patients in China and former Chinese employees of WBT who know everything. I hope the boss of WBT can come to China to sue me. WeChat chat records are one of the court evidence in China.
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I’m just a dude in the states collecting information on behalf of America for if wbt is as described. I highly doubt they could afford another case like this so I wonder if anyone else has actual evidence of anything. Because anyone can just make a statement.
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I’m just a dude in the states collecting information on behalf of America for if wbt is as described. I highly doubt they could afford another case like this so I wonder if anyone else has actual evidence of anything. Because anyone can just make a statement.
If you want to go to WBT, I won’t stop you! that is your freedom! They are happy and no one can do anything to them! The first thing I did when I returned to China was to consult a lawyer every day. The lawyer told me that a large number of international lawsuits were extremely costly, had long statutes of limitations, and could not successfully complete the compensation process! The leather bag company can immediately cancel its registration, change its name and disappear! Other victims are unwilling to come here. The Chinese are afraid of trouble and do not know English. Typing is too tiring. They have to buy a VPN and use English. The content of the translation software is always incorrect. And with family and friends accompanying me every day, there is no benefit in wasting time here! I think Türkiye is a piece of ! In the past three years, I have seen too many Chinese people massacred by Türkiye. Not a single case was successful in safeguarding rights! As long as you dare to expose it, you will only get public slander from WBT! If I hadn’t seen the smear campaign about my post on x, I would have never come here again! I have to type out, translate and adjust every paragraph of text here, which wastes a lot of my time and energy!
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Evidence? Im trying to determine how much of this is true. I believe that something happened to a chinese patients years ago but besides that its just frivolous stuff and non of it has evidence... I also wonder why youd bring thosands of dollars in cash? Seems like a braindead move...
WBT can insult defamation victims without evidence, but when I asked for surveillance, they said it was useless, can you tell me why?The double standards are clear to you, which made me laugh to death. You are very smart to destroy the evidence and ask me to show it at the same time. Next time I come to Türkiye, I will confront you face to face and make a video.
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Evidence? Im trying to determine how much of this is true. I believe that something happened to a chinese patients years ago but besides that its just frivolous stuff and non of it has evidence... I also wonder why youd bring thosands of dollars in cash? Seems like a braindead move...
Please provide evidence to prove that you represent the United States. Instead of another account for WBT.
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Despite so much EVIDENCE indicating the guilt of WannarBeTeller, they still insult and defame the victims without any EVIDENCE, with double standards that make people laugh.
I think we should provide evidence of WBT, otherwise it will be difficult to persuade potential patients to go there for surgery.
WBT loves to make money so much, and will definitely provide evidence to prove its innocence,if they have. Without providing evidence, we can only say that they are at fault
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Umm. Biden fking sucks and we hate it here?
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Despite so much EVIDENCE indicating the guilt of WannarBeTeller, they still insult and defame the victims without any EVIDENCE, with double standards that make people laugh.
I think we should provide evidence of WBT, otherwise it will be difficult to persuade potential patients to go there for surgery.
WBT loves to make money so much, and will definitely provide evidence to prove its innocence,if they have. Without providing evidence, we can only say that they are at fault
He doesn't need to provide evidence, he is confident that he can trick people into having surgery through his lies! They have a large number of marketing accounts that only sell CLL. When people around the world search for CLL, they will be the first to see WBT CLL advertisements and contact information!
Twenty of their so-called 20 employees are salespeople. The main job of the so-called quality administrator is to discredit every exposer and attack comments that are unfavorable to WBT online and pretend that patients write surgical diaries!
Yesterday, WBT were proudly showing off his three-month business performance here!
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Yes, it's really weird!! A "philosophy student" comes along and touches some great points by looking critically. Then, I intensify the challenge by stating that these points are well established. Later!!!? Suddenly, a "sorcerer" who has never ever been involved in the matter before comes and tries to destroy these well-established points and the intensified challenge with his "sorcerous stick"!!! So meaningful!!!
Man, whether you accept it or not, Turkey is still one of the most popular destinations for health tourism and WBT is a part of this popularity.
https://medfort2023izmir.com/tr/3806-bilimsel-program
Do you see this? Just three days ago, it was a well-attended congress related to orthopedics and lengthening with important names such as Donghoon Lee, Peter Thaller, Metin Küçükkaya attending. This is an important indicator showing the importance of Turkey in health tourism and WBT is an important part of that. Our doctor was also there and had the opportunity to meet and exchange ideas with many doctors, including Donghoon.
The words of a highly-starred sir member will not be able to turn the manipulations into a reality, even if this member is a "sorcerer"!! I guess you need to be a more qualified "sorcerer" to be able to make manipulations into a reality!! Try again!!
Keep laughing at those who prefer WBT. Let us also smile with the happiness of having sent more than 30 patients home in just three months, having achieved their goals.
So why can it unsubstantiate your bad attitudes towards post-op issues and ostentations? Turkey has a highly starred congress in which multiple reputed orthopedists partake, yeah, so can it change the fact that you are irresponsible and pretentious? ;D
And yeah, I am a sorcerer, who can manipulate your mom's orgasm. Last time I did the magic to make her pussy wet and horny so that she could not help intercoursing with me she was even exclaiming 'WBT is an ashole' while being ejaculated by me ;D ;D ;D
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And a male patient was stabbed and nearly died, and the company—all they could think about was money and how the company looked—tried to sweep it under the rug and delete evidence. No support was offered.
Yes, I am a rapist and murderer. My name is Chen ZhiXiang. Because this fking brat sabotaged my rape plan, I tricked him into my room and prepared to stab him to death. I have made a thorough plan that is sufficient to deal with the police's interrogation. As long as the police inquire, I can say that this man entered my room for robbery and was stabbed to death by me on the spot. The dead person will not argue, and the hotel surveillance is just a decoration. It's very perfect. Am I very smart? But not stabbing that man to death was my biggest mistake.fk!! !But this bastard stayed in the hospital for a month, and I am still very happy. Anyone who sabotages my rape plan will have to die.
Secondly, I am very grateful to WBT for sheltering me and helping me. If any of you dare to speak bad words of WBT again, I will also stab you to death.
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So why can it unsubstantiate your bad attitudes towards post-op issues and ostentations? Turkey has a highly starred congress in which multiple reputed orthopedists partake, yeah, so can it change the fact that you are irresponsible and pretentious? ;D
And yeah, I am a sorcerer, who can manipulate your mom's orgasm. Last time I did the magic to make her pussy wet and horny so that she could not help intercoursing with me she was even exclaiming 'WBT is an ashole' while being ejaculated by me ;D ;D ;D
Another piggy who resorts to insults when desperate! The easiest way is to insult! But I'm not such a vile devil to involve your mother in an argument!!
This is last answer to you!!
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT guarded the alleged rapist and left alone the alleged victim.
WBT: If it happened so, the allegedly harassment victim girl, why did want to have second surgery at WBT? Though we did not officially accept her second surgery for herself, why did she still choose our doctor, our hospital and our hotel for second surgery and is still currently in our hotel as an unrecorded patient?
They: Ha, ho, hebele, hübele, WBT is rapist, communist, machinist, victim, santim, rape, grape, bla, bla, bla, vkmdfkskfd,hgdkkgdkgd,sıeıwqreıurıur, etc......
WBT: Ok, then why didn't you share information you have with the juridical as the case is moving to the prosecution office? You can even do it right now because the case is still ongoing.
They: Lol, mol, kol, rape, shape, cape, rapist, modernist, positivist, capitalist, hebele, hübele, WBT, PKK, KGB, FARC, we are anti rapist, we are spiderman, no! no! we think we are batman, ashskskdksakakaahkskskd, bla, bla, bla, etc.......
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They: The hotel is very bad. A coffee costs 30-40 dollars. (Of course, this is a simple lie.) No gym, no pool. (Of course this is another simple lie too. Maybe it was right a month ago. But the hotel have both anymore.) I paid 4000 dollars for this place, but there are better hotels for 1300 dollars. (If this is real, he'd be in the Guinness Book of World Records for wasting his money.)
WBT: Ok, this hotel is a new and famous hotel that is a subsidiary of the international brand Wyndham. But if you don't like it, you can stay anywhere else you want. Many of our patients already stay either in their own homes (those who have a home) or in hotels of their choice, and we continue to offer all services to them.
They: Hebele, hübele, askaksaka, askaskaskask, the hotel is very bad, the thieves come at night, even Hallowen came at one point, and he was about to kill me, but I kicked him. At the very moment, the Jigsaw man also just arrived! Just as he was about to destroy my fixator with the huge saw in his hand. I threw the extension key in my hand and blinded him, then he got so scared and ran away. WBT is affiliated with Hallowen and Jigsaw! Don't come! It's so scary, bla, bla, bla.......
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They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
They: WBT is lying, smearing her.
WBT: Instead of sharing irrelevant, manipulated, edited, reduced, adjusted screenshots, please let herself share in full all correspondences she has with the doctor, her consultant and me here, especially the belonging date of September, already Maison requested her to share the belonging date of September.
They: If WBT comes to China, they will be arrested...Chinese Police are waiting for them.... All certificates they have is invalid in China.... WBT takes patients' money...... WBT is WBT.... WBT is USA... WBT is TBW.... WBT is BTW ....WBT is WTB, WBT is CIA, WBT is FBI, bla, bla, bla, etc.........
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They: WBT destroyed many patients.
WBT: Who are these many patients? Can you present any information?
They: Hebele, hübele, ashkashkashka, xashaxashahaca, We can't do this, they prefer to stay silent, but we won't stay silent, bla, bla, bla...
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Philosophy student: Why is everyone else speaking on her behalf, except for the girl who is said to have been abused? If they thought so much about her, why didn't they testify in favor of the girl by sharing the information they had when the case was brought to the judicial authorities?
Why does the osteomyelitis girl digress by sharing the same complicated screenshots rather than responding to the open challenge of WBT officials?
They: Haaarr, vaaarrr, hir, gur, hebele, hübele, you are number two, you are official! You are special! you are financial! no! no! you are lawyer!, akasashfhdhs, aksaısadweuwwdh, ashkhakakaksassksh, bla, bla, bla, etc....
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But I'm not such a vile devil to involve your mother in an argument!!
" I'm not such a vile devil" ;D ;D ;D
A dead pig is not afraid of hot water!!!
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
Ha, ho, hebele, hübele, WBT is rapist, communist, machinist, victim, santim, rape, grape, bla, bla, bla, vkmdfkskfd,hgdkkgdkgd,sıeıwqreıurıur, etc......
Lol, mol, kol, rape, shape, cape, rapist, modernist, positivist, capitalist, hebele, hübele, WBT, PKK, KGB, FARC, we are anti rapist, we are spiderman, no! no! we think we are batman, ashskskdksakakaahkskskd, bla, bla, bla, etc.......
Hebele, hübele, askaksaka, askaskaskask, the hotel is very bad, the thieves come at night, even Hallowen came at one point, and he was about to kill me, but I kicked him. At the very moment, the Jigsaw man also just arrived! Just as he was about to destroy my fixator with the huge saw in his hand. I threw the extension key in my hand and blinded him, then he got so scared and ran away. WBT is affiliated with Hallowen and Jigsaw! Don't come! It's so scary, bla, bla, bla.......
If WBT comes to China, they will be arrested...Chinese Police are waiting for them.... All certificates they have is invalid in China.... WBT takes patients' money...... WBT is WBT.... WBT is USA... WBT is TBW.... WBT is BTW ....WBT is WTB, WBT is CIA, WBT is FBI, bla, bla, bla, etc.........
ebele, hübele, ashkashkashka, xashaxashahaca, We can't do this, they prefer to stay silent, but we won't stay silent, bla, bla, bla...
They: Haaarr, vaaarrr, hir, gur, hebele, hübele, you are number two, you are official! You are special! you are financial! no! no! you are lawyer!, akasashfhdhs, aksaısadweuwwdh, ashkhakakaksassksh, bla, bla, bla, etc....
Got Mad cow disease? WannaBeMentally ill. :D :D :D
Ugly pig cannot speak human language!!!
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The real professional background and moral quality of the patients in Türkiye's WBT black intermediary are uneven! When the patient's personal safety is threatened, WBT responds: We are a limb extension agent, not a security company! Why does Boss WBT always deserve such a beating every time he receives an official response!
A tour guide in Türkiye who worked as a CLL himself did not have any medical knowledge. From the beginning, he earned kickbacks for his chief surgeon, to the beginning, he changed the travel agency into an international health travel agency. Even if he was hooked on medical treatment, he recruited countless temporary workers to specialize in marketing CLL surgery! After the incident, they only say that we are just intermediaries! In China, this type of medical care trafficker has already been imprisoned, and loopholes in international law have saved these butchers time and time again!
WBT's patients have the most conflicts. Since 2020, a group of people in WBT's preoperative group did not know what medication WBT had given them, and the group brawl caused damage and cursed W's 83! Force her to shut up and retreat! The same group of patients attacking the exposed individuals who have done harm! W's patient diary writer once threatened my personal safety! The other two patients have never been so outrageous!
Because WBT invites patients to do care, patients who do care often have no bottom line for their own interests. When something happens, WBT throws the blame at the care. When the victim points the finger at the care, it looks like it's just a quarrel between patients. In fact, the culprit is still WBT, and every time there is an argument, the black agent clearly favors the care! I even witnessed Xu Shuiying bully new people with my own eyes. WBT sat there and praised Xu Shuiying for her bullying. Xu Shuiying posted chat records everywhere to show off that she had been treated specially by WBT. Angry, the new patient left W wearing a shelf during the extended period
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In China, the limb extension forum has been permanently banned due to the existence of WBT, and WBT's WeChat account has also been officially blocked, which is the best evidence of WBT's guilt. I think I should be grateful to the thief for stealing my money, which allowed me to see the true face of WBT and avoid being disabled by it.
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If the infection occurred during the operation, the patient would be justified in accusing the doctor and Wannabetaller. But as far as I understand, the Chinese patient developed an infection weeks after the surgery. She was Dr. Yuksel Yurttas's patient and didn't even stay at Wannabetaller's facility. When Dr. Yurttas refused to treat her, Dr. Yunus agreed to see her, even though she wasn't originally his patient. The lower leg is susceptible to infection due to its thin tissue. I've personally witnessed someone touch and poke the pin sites with bare fingers. Imagine if that person blamed the company or nurse for an infection. Fortunately, he didn't contract one, but he frequently fiddled with his wounds. Once, he even removed the bandages and waited a day.
Did you put a monitor on my leg? If I touch the wound at the fracture site with my hand and get an infection from the wound, shouldn't it start to rot from the outside?
Why did it start to rot from the inside?
Idiot, the wound at the fracture site should be taken care of by your nurse when we were in the hotel!
So I can say that poor care by your nurses gave us osteomyelitis?
Also I want to ask why the surgery you recommended to me left me with rheumatism in my left leg.
It always hurts a year after the operation! Especially it hurts every time when it rains.
I have to touch it to relieve the pain.
Why is it not infected when I touch it?
Why doesn't it still cause osteomyelitis? I obviously touched it! Medical experts, tell me why?
I have been wearing an Ilizarov fixator on my right leg for 10 months.
Why are the pinholes of me and many other patients not covered with gauze and not disinfected for more than 10 days?
Why are none of our pinholes infected?
Tell me why pinholes don’t get infected even if they are exposed without disinfection?
Why do those patients in China wear external frames for 2 to 3 years and have an extension of more than 18 centimeters, but they are not infected with osteomyelitis?
When there is an infection, the patients go to the hospital and the doctor will debridement them, why doesn't the doctor tell them that because you left the hospital so I have no responsibility to you and I can't treat your complications!
Why without nurse or physiotherapy, some chinese patients can run 10 kilometers after lengthening the thighs by 11 centimeters. Can you run?
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I am very disappointed with WBT's style of excuses and evasion of responsibility after patients' accidents.
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
Wait, I will translate all the evidence to refute your four lies into English and upload them.
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
The reason why I lengtened by 7cm is :
1. Before the operation, they advertised that the calf could be lengthened to 7 cm.
2. WBT clearly has a precedent of calf length exceeding 7.5 cm,more than me
3. A ex- patient of W told me that the length would be shortened 1-2 cm after surgery to remove.Many patients tell me they are 1 cm shorter after one year.In order to ensure that I could grow 6 cm taller, I chosed to lengthen it by 7 cm.
4. When yuksel saw that my x ray was lengtened by 7 cm, he didn’t say anything about it !Even though it had length difference doctor and WBT told me it doesn't matter.
5.Now my calves are still much shorter than my thighs, and the proportions are very ugly.
6.There are many patients in China whose calves were lengthened by 8 to 15 centimeters. They took care of their wounds by themselves also without physical therapy. But they recovered very well. No one got osteomyelitis, and the lengthening was not the cause of osteomyelitis. Don’t change the subject!
7.WBT used this excuse to attack me, with the purpose of me as a disobedient patient who doesn’t love me legs, and then making others believe that I am a patient who will infect my fracture site with osteomyelitis by myself!
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
<<About delaying my 20-days dismantling incident>>
On March 15, 2022, I told W in advance that I wanted to dismantle the fixator. W lied to me many times with reasons that the surgeon had never said: 1. At the beginning, he said that bending the knee could not be removed, but I did not bend the knee! 2. A few days later, they told me that there was no callus and they couldn’t remove it. Couldn’t give me a specific time for removal! But I obviously have a callus! And they used to remove it very fast!
I asked the surgeon what was going on. The doctor said there was nothing wrong with my callus, just because the operating room was busy these past two weeks! I showed WBT a screenshot of what the doctor said, and W boss immediately apologized to me. He promised that he would not allow to delay the removal surgery because the operating room was busy, and he promised to ask the doctor to remove it for me as soon as possible! In fact, they were really procrastinating!
So I gone to the hospital to make an appointment with the doctor. The doctor said that the earliest date would be April 2. On April 1, I went to the hospital for a blood test to prepare for the removal surgery next day. On the evening of April 1, I was notified that I was fasting, and then I was notified that the removal surgery was cancelled! What's the excuse this time? Just to ensure that my wound can be sewn more perfectly, I was explode to these dishonest liars !
I went to ask the doctor’s Chinese assistant, what happened? His assistant said: It was W’s boss who canceled the removal surgery himself. They have not prepare surgical materials. The surgical materials always have been purchased by W . The doctor was only responsible for performing the surgery! In the end, the operation was postponed to 2 days later. 2 days later, I saw patient J who had the removal surgery on the same day with me. When I asked him, he had only waited 2 days! WBT just in order to arrange for us to removal on the same day, WBT maliciously delayed my removal surgery for 20 days!
I tolerated this matter and did not pursue it further! W’s boss and other staff members were all involved in the group! They clearly know what happened! And he has already apologized to me for this matter! I don’t know how they had the nerve to come up with this story and fabricate it into another version, saying that I insisted on removal it as soon as possible, they went to great lengths to distort the facts, just to make uninformed people believe I was a patient who didn’t listen to them, so I was a patient who would make myself suffer from osteomyelitis!
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
After I left the hotel i have not insulted anyone! Even if the housekeeper deleted me and has not help me apply for accommodation certificate, I did not insult him! WBT apologized to me in the group for this incident! I'm too lazy to pursue it! If you need this screenshot, I can publish it!You are so stingy with your patients and staffs, and you blame me for them leaving! How outrageous!
That Xinjiang employee slandered me behind my back with unsuspecting people, which caused other patients to scold me" I deserved it! "He clearly knew the development of the entire incident, but he chose to be an accomplice of WBT and smear me without telling the truth! You illiterate, I never insulted him!And I didn’t reveal his privacy ! Don't try to frame me!By the way, if you care about your privacy so much, why do you want to spread your photos around the world? You are simply narrow-minded, dark, and contradictory!
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
Xinjiang employees made slanderous comments about me to other patients:
''We have had several postoperative complications cases , we usually strongly recommend that patients stay with us after surgery and receive the necessary post- operative care services(physiotherapy,regular wound cleaning and dressing change). One patient did not want to live with us after surgery and rented a house outside.Then he did not take good care of the wound, which led to infection.After the infection occurred,he did not come to us in time and only came to us when the infection became serious.Although we did The treatment is not complete yet and is still under treatment.We told the patient before the operation that there would be complications and that he would have to stay with us for at least three months after the operation, but he didnt listen and blamed us when he encountered problems.There was nothing we could do about it.''
Xinjiang employees made slanderous comments about me to other patients :
''This patient's infection was not cured despite treatment.We recommended that the patient live with us for three months after the operation, but the patient did not want to live with us and rented a house outside.Then he did not take good care of the wound, which led to infection, and he did not come to us in time. He haven’t come to us in time.It would be easier to treat if he came to us in time.''
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
Lost contact? Really? I didn’t delete any of you. You said before the operation that you would contact the patients regularly, but why did you never contact me?When my legs suddenly swelled and I had a fever, I nervously asked all of you what it was. Do you remember what you said to me?
From July 8 to September 1, 2022,Xinjiang employee and another Chinese employee F delivered news to me for the boss of WBT and Yunus. You told me that purulent osteomyelitis can be cured with antibiotics alone. After treatment there would be no any problems, told me that Yunus was a very professional doctor and asked me to believe him, and I did it!
As a result, the osteomyelitis turned into chronic osteomyelitis, and Yunus still insisted on denying the internationally recognized method of treating osteomyelitis! At the same time, Q and J also developed osteomyelitis problems. Fortunately, they have returned to their home countries! Because the boss of WBT saw that they were treating in their own country paid by themselves, he told me that if he continued to treat me, it would be unfair to other patients who were treated at their own expense. WBT thought that they have paid for my medicine ( not the infusion fee )was kind to me enough! After that, the WBT boss abandoned me!
Chinese employee F tried to persuade his boss to change anther doctor for me. I did not trust them anymore and I had already purchased a ticket to return China! Sure enough, F told me that WBT boss had completely abandoned me! Because the boss thinks they are just intermediaries!
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
September 4, 2022, WBT official response about I hope other doctors can replace yunus to remove nail and debridement:
''I have already reported your situation to my boss. He said that when complications occur, we will try our best to treat the patient, but the cost should be borne by the patient. When you came to us after complications occur, we have reimbursed your medication, consultation fees, transportation expenses . What we can do for you, we have already done.
If you needed surgery when you went to Dr. Yunus, Dr. Yunus would definitely perform surgery on you. The surgery was also a very painful process. You were still very young, so he treated you in a way that would cause the least harm to your body. .
The doctor you went to for consultation said that the treatment fee is really too high. The cost of treating osteomyelitis in Turkey is not that high. Dr. Yunus is a very professional doctor, but you feel that his treatment method is wrong and choose to go to another doctor. This is of course no problem and we respect your choice.
As a company we cannot bear the cost of the surgery, which causes serious losses to us. And it’s unfair to other patients who have to bear the cost of treatment if complications arise.
You left us not long after the stent removal surgery, and we were unable to follow up on your condition, and then your condition developed to this point. You go to your own surgeon (Yüksel Yurttas), and he doesn’t pay much attention to you, and you know it yourself. Although Dr. Yunus is not the chief surgeon who performs the surgery on you, he has been caring about your situation and has done everything he can for you.
If you want to go to another doctor for surgery, we respect your choice. But we cannot reimburse the surgery fee. if you want to pass law If the law solves the problem, you can sue.''
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Other patients who have complications treated at their own expense in their own country,condemned WBT’s irresponsibility for me
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
September 10, 2022,Yunus continues to deny the internationally recognized method of treating osteomyelitis. I decided to return to China for treatment!
"We are not joking about your legs at all. Complications may occur during any surgery, and patients are aware of the possibility of complications before surgery. The most effective treatment for your condition and the least harmful to your body right now is the yunus's treatment.
There are very few doctors who understand heightening surgery and can perform heightening surgery, and not every orthopedic surgeon understands this surgery. The doctors you visited told you to take out the needle first, fill it with antibiotics and then insert the needle into the bone cavity. There is a 50-60% risk of nonunion if you do this.
Of course, you have the right to choose another doctor to treat you, but the company cannot reimburse the treatment costs. According to the company's many years of experience, patients who keep changing doctors to see them do not get very good results. But you have the right to choose to have other doctors treat you, and we respect your choice. "
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
WBT China employee tried to persuade their boss to change my treating doctor, but WBT's boss refused because they thought they were just intermediary！
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
They: WBT is a terrible company. They weren't interested in her and caused to have osteomyelitis. Dr. Yunus applied the wrong treatment and caused her osteomyelitis to increase.
WBT: 1-We have warned her four times that she has to stop your extension immediately. We even had to take the extension key from her hand in the end.
2- Since she continues to lengthen her legs secretly, we said that let's postpone the removal surgery to measure the reaction of your legs, so that maybe it will be necessary to undo the extra extension you made. (Later, we were told that the operating rooms were full due to planned surgeries. When we learned this, we worked hard to create a gap for removal. When she still insisted on surgery, we asked her to wait for the operating room to become suitable, but she still insisted so much.)
3- We asked her to stay in touch with us even if she is leaving the hotel. But she tooks a hostile attitude by revealing the private information of Xinjiangian staff and insulting them without any reason, broke off ties with us and did not establish right communication with us.
4- She applied to us when osteomyelitis symptoms started exactly four months later. Doctor Yunus started a treatment for her using methods he deemed appropriate. But by constantly questioning the treatment, she sets aside the doctor's instructions and dictated her own instructions to the doctor. Finally, she continued in other ways without completing your treatment.
I paid them hotel fees for 4 months and they actually said I had never stayed in their establishment! How could they lie and smear me like this! After making our money, do you treat us like garbage and throw it away?
Before the surgery and before leaving their hotel, WBT’boss always smiled and told us every day that if we had any questions, just tell him! Regardless of whether the patient is in their hotel or not, they can find various excuses to shirk responsibility! Shift the responsibility to the former doctors, former employees, and former patients, change employees change doctors, and continue to spread the most beautiful and attractive promises!
I will say i am always be a patient of WBT! It was the doctors that WBT and their patient actors who strongly recommended to me crippled me, and then they all ran away!l!
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WTfkKK!! WannaBeTaller is capable of doing things that are inferior to animals. I almost got fooled by them too, thanks for sharing, hope you get well soon.
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" I'm not such a vile devil" ;D ;D ;D
I'm devil's devil !
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Yeah now that I can read more clearly, I'd only do this if they cut their prices by half or so. Then risk to reward is manageable. It seems WBT sadly isnt run very well and every time they say it changes it isnt changing
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I can't thank the people on the forum enough for sharing their experiences with WBT. Fortunately they are there to dissuade people from going there and risking losing their legs.
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The reason why I lengtened by 7cm is :
1. Before the operation, they advertised that the calf could be lengthened to 7 cm.
2. WBT clearly has a precedent of calf length exceeding 7.5 cm,more than me
3. A ex- patient of W told me that the length would be shortened 1-2 cm after surgery to remove.Many patients tell me they are 1 cm shorter after one year.In order to ensure that I could grow 6 cm taller, I chosed to lengthen it by 7 cm.
4. When yuksel saw that my x ray was lengtened by 7 cm, he didn’t say anything about it !Even though it had length difference doctor and WBT told me it doesn't matter.
5.Now my calves are still much shorter than my thighs, and the proportions are very ugly.
6.There are many patients in China whose calves were lengthened by 8 to 15 centimeters. They took care of their wounds by themselves also without physical therapy. But they recovered very well. No one got osteomyelitis, and the lengthening was not the cause of osteomyelitis. Don’t change the subject!
7.WBT used this excuse to attack me, with the purpose of me as a disobedient patient who doesn’t love me legs, and then making others believe that I am a patient who will infect my fracture site with osteomyelitis by myself!
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1-What is said is "could be/can be" not "definitely will". When the doctor looks at your bone, joint, nerve and muscle structure and tells you that you need to stop, you should stop.
2-There were also patients who reached 9 or 10 cm on 2-WBT. But this is not a goal that can be achieved for every patient. It is done under the supervision and approval of a doctor.
3- 1 cm shorter or 1 cm taller is not more important than your health. You have been told that you must stop for your health and well-being. I was one of those who warned you about this in your room four times.
4- What I told you exactly four times (that you have to stop the lengthening immediately for your health) was already what the doctor and WBT said. If the doctor or another staff member of WBT did not tell you how dangerous what you were doing was, it is because I said there was no need for it because I had already warned you four times and we took your extension key from you.
5-As I said before, elongation rates are entirely related to the response of your body. While in some patients it becomes dangerous even after 4 cm, some patients can lengthen 7 or more cm. The doctor decides this.
6- Continuing to lengthening contrary to instructions is of course not a direct cause of osteomyelitis. However, the patient's failure to act in accordance with the instructions on such an important issue is an obvious indicator that she may not follow the instructions on other issues as well.
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<<About delaying my 20-days dismantling incident>>
On March 15, 2022, I told W in advance that I wanted to dismantle the fixator. W lied to me many times with reasons that the surgeon had never said: 1. At the beginning, he said that bending the knee could not be removed, but I did not bend the knee! 2. A few days later, they told me that there was no callus and they couldn’t remove it. Couldn’t give me a specific time for removal! But I obviously have a callus! And they used to remove it very fast!
I asked the surgeon what was going on. The doctor said there was nothing wrong with my callus, just because the operating room was busy these past two weeks! I showed WBT a screenshot of what the doctor said, and W boss immediately apologized to me. He promised that he would not allow to delay the removal surgery because the operating room was busy, and he promised to ask the doctor to remove it for me as soon as possible! In fact, they were really procrastinating!
So I gone to the hospital to make an appointment with the doctor. The doctor said that the earliest date would be April 2. On April 1, I went to the hospital for a blood test to prepare for the removal surgery next day. On the evening of April 1, I was notified that I was fasting, and then I was notified that the removal surgery was cancelled! What's the excuse this time? Just to ensure that my wound can be sewn more perfectly, I was explode to these dishonest liars !
I went to ask the doctor’s Chinese assistant, what happened? His assistant said: It was W’s boss who canceled the removal surgery himself. They have not prepare surgical materials. The surgical materials always have been purchased by W . The doctor was only responsible for performing the surgery! In the end, the operation was postponed to 2 days later. 2 days later, I saw patient J who had the removal surgery on the same day as me. When I asked him, he had only waited 2 days! WBT just in order to arrange for us to removal on the same day, WBT maliciously delayed my removal surgery for 20 days!
I tolerated this matter and did not pursue it further! W’s boss and other staff members were all involved in the group! They clearly know what happened! And he has already apologized to me for this matter! I don’t know how they had the nerve to come up with this story and fabricate it into another version, saying that I insisted on removal it as soon as possible, they went to great lengths to distort the facts, just to make uninformed people believe I was a patient who didn’t listen to them, so I was a patient who would make myself suffer from osteomyelitis!
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Either the information the doctor/assistant gave you is incorrect or the information they gave us. It was conveyed to us as a medical necessity for the fixator to remain on your leg for a while. We immediately took the initiative when you said that the problem was due to the density of the operating room, just as you said. But we could not achieve this all at once due to many pre-planned surgeries. Because the operating rooms in the hospital are not only for one patient but also for many patients like you. The same goes for the materials needed for surgery. They are sourced from a supplier and supply issues are always likely to arise. For example, due to supply problems caused by the manufacturer of the precice nail, we could not perform precice surgery for exactly three months. What I mean is that there is nothing wrong in explaining to you that surgeries may be postponed due to many possibilities, both medical and technical, and politely asking for more time. As you know, I was one of the people who corresponded with you the most about this issue, and I was really tired trying to make arrangements for you. Frankly, I am surprised that you portray the delays that have occurred and are likely to occur due to either equipment or the doctor's schedule or the operating room schedule or the current health situation, as malicious behavior.
Removal surgery is also a medical intervention and is performed after all conditions are met, not within the time period requested and determined by the patient.
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After I left the hotel i have not insulted anyone! Even if the housekeeper deleted me and has not help me apply for accommodation certificate, I did not insult him! WBT apologized to me in the group for this incident! I'm too lazy to pursue it! If you need this screenshot, I can publish it!You are so stingy with your patients and staff, and you blame me for them leaving! How outrageous!
That Xinjiang employee slandered me behind my back with unsuspecting people, which caused other patients to scold me" I deserved it! "He clearly knew the development of the entire incident, but he chose to be an accomplice of WBT and smear me without telling the truth! You illiterate, I never insulted him!And I didn’t reveal his privacy ! Don't try to frame me!By the way, if you care about your privacy so much, why do you want to spread your photos around the world? You are simply narrow-minded, dark, and contradictory!
Yes, I was directly involved in the accommodation document issue. As I told you at that time, he was rightfully angry with you for sharing the picture of himself and the child of the Xinjiang staff on Chinese platforms without blurring. Because the people of Xinjiang had obvious sensitivity on such issues due to the political problems between them and the Chinese State.You know what I wrote to you about this and you can share it if you want.
However, when I instructed the staff to fulfill your request as soon as possible, I was the one who disciplined them for not being quick enough to do so. Because they did not comply with my instructions on time, they received an official-written warning and this was recorded in their working register. Even though it wasn't even my duty, I personally took the initiative to obtain your accommodation document and focused on solving the problem.
If you had told me that the Xinjiang staff told you "you deserve it", I would have made sure he was punished for that too. Because whatever the reason, this is not a professional and humane attitude.
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Lost contact? Really? I didn’t delete any of you. You said before the operation that you would contact the patients regularly, but why did you never contact me?When my legs suddenly swelled and I had a fever, I nervously asked all of you what it was. Do you remember what you said to me?
From July 8 to September 1, 2022,Xinjiang employee and another Chinese employee F delivered news to me for the boss of WBT and Yunus. You told me that purulent osteomyelitis can be cured with antibiotics alone. After treatment there would be no any problems, told me that Yunus was a very professional doctor and asked me to believe him, and I did it!
As a result, the osteomyelitis turned into chronic osteomyelitis, and Yunus still insisted on denying the internationally recognized method of treating osteomyelitis! At the same time, Q and J also developed osteomyelitis problems. Fortunately, they have returned to their home countries! Because the boss of WBT saw that they were treating in their own country paid by themselves, he told me that if he continued to treat me, it would be unfair to other patients who were treated at their own expense. WBT thought that they have paid for my medicine ( not the infusion fee )was kind to me enough! After that, the WBT boss abandoned me!
Chinese employee F tried to persuade his boss to change anther doctor for me. I did not trust them anymore and I had already purchased a ticket to return China! Sure enough, F told me that WBT boss had completely abandoned me! Because the boss thinks they are just intermediaries!
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Communication is not one-sided. It is bilateral. When we send the patients home or when they stay away from us in another place, we are informed about how to walk or how to treat their wounds, and they are asked to share with us visual confirmations of the stages they have gone through.
It was not stated to you that purulent osteomyelitis will be treated only with antibiotics, it was stated to you that the first stage of treatment is to dry the pus in the wound with antibiotics and that performing debridement in the first stage may cause serious damage to the bone tissue. In fact, when you persistently requested debridement at the very first stage and your consultant seems to have conveyed the situation to your doctor. In his response, the doctor clearly stated that this should not be done without first-stage antibiotic treatment.
Therefore, Dr. There is no indication that what Yunus did was a rejection of internationally accepted treatment for osteomyelitis. On the contrary, it seems that he wanted to act in accordance with the standards of this treatment. One way or another, this is a medical issue and neither you nor we can tell the doctor what to do. But maybe because of your insecurity, you constantly told the doctor how to do the treatment. The doctor started antibiotic treatment as the first step, but you said debridement. The doctor performed a culture test for the bacteria causing the infection and determined the type of bacteria. But you requested another culture test. But since there was no spread, he did not see the need to perform a second culture test.
As a result, after the first stage treatment, that is, as of September, you have decided to continue your treatment in another way without waiting for the appropriate treatment to be determined and applied for your current situation.
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Y'all are making jokes, and playing games with peoples lives right now. FYI. I Dont know what occurred, what I do know is business, and if these accusations are not 100% truthful then you could potentially be ruining a business whom provides a service to change lives like it changed yours. I had my surgery done elsewhere in Turkey but damnnnn like what the **** I couldn't believe what I was reading
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September 4, 2022, WBT official response about I hope other doctors can replace yunus to remove nail and debridement:
''I have already reported your situation to my boss. He said that when complications occur, we will try our best to treat the patient, but the cost should be borne by the patient. When you came to us after complications occur, we have reimbursed your medication, consultation fees, transportation expenses . What we can do for you, we have already done.
If you needed surgery when you went to Dr. Yunus, Dr. Yunus would definitely perform surgery on you. The surgery was also a very painful process. You were still very young, so he treated you in a way that would cause the least harm to your body. .
The doctor you went to for consultation said that the treatment fee is really too high. The cost of treating osteomyelitis in Turkey is not that high. Dr. Yunus is a very professional doctor, but you feel that his treatment method is wrong and choose to go to another doctor. This is of course no problem and we respect your choice.
As a company we cannot bear the cost of the surgery, which causes serious losses to us. And it’s unfair to other patients who have to bear the cost of treatment if complications arise.
You left us not long after the stent removal surgery, and we were unable to follow up on your condition, and then your condition developed to this point. You go to your own surgeon (Yüksel Yurttas), and he doesn’t pay much attention to you, and you know it yourself. Although Dr. Yunus is not the chief surgeon who performs the surgery on you, he has been caring about your situation and has done everything he can for you.
If you want to go to another doctor for surgery, we respect your choice. But we cannot reimburse the surgery fee. if you want to pass law If the law solves the problem, you can sue.''
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Other patients who have complications treated at their own expense in their own country,condemned WBT’s irresponsibility for me
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What is stated here are the standard conditions that will be put front of you wherever you go in the world. No organization, whether in America, Europe or Asia, will act differently against a complication that has not been legally proven to be caused by itself. These conditions are already clearly stated in the contracts. In such cases, the problem is that the doctor does not see anything missing in the treatment protocol he applies. If the patient says that he sees a deficiency in the protocol, he must justify this officially and with the opinion of an expert. Otherwise, the doctor will be inclined not to accept his mistake, even if he is already wrong. That's why we encourage parties to seek advice from independent third party experts.
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I paid them hotel fees for 4 months and they actually said I had never stayed in their establishment! How could they lie and smear me like this! After making our money, do you treat us like garbage and throw it away?
Before the surgery and before leaving their hotel, WBT’boss always smiled and told us every day that if we had any questions, just tell him! Regardless of whether the patient is in their hotel or not, they can find various excuses to shirk responsibility! Shift the responsibility to the former doctors, former employees, and former patients, change employees change doctors, and continue to spread the most beautiful and attractive promises!
I will say i am always be a patient of WBT! It was the doctors that WBT and their patient actors who strongly recommended to me crippled me, and then they all ran away!l!
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Which of our staff members would be unreasonable enough to say that they are not staying at our hotel despite millions of evidence showing that you are staying at our hotel?
What is being said is not that you did not stay at our hotel, but that you had a case that you noticed developing exactly four months after you left our hotel.
And contrary to your claims, we always smiled at you. Even if no one smiles -you, I and God know- that I always smiled at you and do nothing but strive for your good.
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This forum having no moderation has gotten totally out of control.
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Yes, I was directly involved in the accommodation document issue. As I told you at that time, he was rightfully angry with you for sharing the picture of himself and the child of the Xinjiang staff on Chinese platforms without blurring. Because the people of Xinjiang had obvious sensitivity on such issues due to the political problems between them and the Chinese State.You know what I wrote to you about this and you can share it if you want.
However, when I instructed the staff to fulfill your request as soon as possible, I was the one who disciplined them for not being quick enough to do so. Because they did not comply with my instructions on time, they received an official-written warning and this was recorded in their working register. Even though it wasn't even my duty, I personally took the initiative to obtain your accommodation document and focused on solving the problem.
If you had told me that the Xinjiang staff told you "you deserve it", I would have made sure he was punished for that too. Because whatever the reason, this is not a professional and humane attitude.
Because you lied many times and maliciously delayed the removal surgery for 20 days,canceled surgery at short notice ！ I just too angry and accidentally took a screenshot of his profile picture and posted it in W’s pre-surgery group! And that pre-surgery group was disbanded last year! If you mentioned that his profile picture is related to sensitive political issues, how could I, as a patient, know this in advance! Before I left W, he kept complaining that you only gave him 400 US dollars a month, which was not enough to support his family! He's going to look for a job with a higher salary, what's wrong with that! There is no conflict between he and me. Is it all my fault that your employees always change frequently?And he not only deleted me, he deleted every patient who left the WBT hotel. Other patients told me this.Why didn't you mention he forced a new patient into leaving the hotel ?
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Which of our staff members would be unreasonable enough to say that they are not staying at our hotel despite millions of evidence showing that you are staying at our hotel?
What is being said is not that you did not stay at our hotel, but that you had a case that you noticed developing exactly four months after you left our hotel.
And contrary to your claims, we always smiled at you. Even if no one smiles -you, I and God know- that I always smiled at you and do nothing but strive for your good.
Less than 3 months ! Your bad memory is no excuse for you to slander me!
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Because you lied many times and maliciously delayed the removal surgery for 20 days,canceled surgery at short notice ！ I just too angry and accidentally took a screenshot of his profile picture and posted it in W’s pre-surgery group! And that pre-surgery group was disbanded last year! If you mentioned that his profile picture is related to sensitive political issues, how could I, as a patient, know this in advance! Before I left W, he kept complaining that you only gave him 400 US dollars a month, which was not enough to support his family! He's going to look for a job with a higher salary, what's wrong with that! There is no conflict between he and me. Is it all my fault that your employees always change frequently?And he not only deleted me, he deleted every patient who left the WBT hotel. Other patients told me this.Why didn't you mention he forced a new patient into leaving the hotel ?
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If you see the obstruction of many technical and medical details as malicious delay, there is nothing I can do. But if my intentions were personally bad, I wouldn't try so hard for you, and rest assured, in this case the delay could even be up to a month.
What makes you think I blame you for procedures of changing employees? There are always two main reasons why our employees change, and these reasons do not change: 1- Self-request 2- Professional obligations.
Salaries of personnel are a matter for the accounting department and are subject to financial confidentiality. If it were not so, I could share evidence that would show that our personnel salaries are not bad at all under Turkey's conditions. I can say that we are better than many large-scale companies in this regard.
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Less than 3 months ! Your bad memory is no excuse for you to slander me!
Records are carefully kept by the accounting unit. However, it is always possible that there may be some errors due to human factors. We either notice it during regular/standard/independent checks or the patients themselves warn us. Then we make the necessary corrections immediately. If you had let me know there was a mistake I would have been happy to help you.
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The last fig leaf of WBT has been removed, leaving only the ugly body. But they are still arguing that even poor memory has become the reason for them to stigmatize patients.
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No wonder so many people want to fk the mother of WBT boss, who deserves to be fked for raising such a brute son.
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If it happened so, the allegedly harassment victim girl, why did want to have second surgery at WBT? Though we did not officially accept her second surgery for herself, why did she still choose our doctor, our hospital and our hotel for second surgery and is still currently in our hotel as an unrecorded patient?
Her trust in doctors does not mean she trusts your company. The reason why she stays in a hotel is simply to prove that even if you don't let her stay, she can continue to stay. Everything she does is to prove that you have no right to interfere with her decision. Also, it's not that you didn't accept the girl's request for a second surgery, but that the girl didn't accept your additional conditions. I'm sure I'll know this girl better than you do.
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Her trust in doctors does not mean she trusts your company. The reason why she stays in a hotel is simply to prove that even if you don't let her stay, she can continue to stay. Everything she does is to prove that you have no right to interfere with her decision. Also, it's not that you didn't accept the girl's request for a second surgery, but that the girl didn't accept your additional conditions. I'm sure I'll know this girl better than you do.
What the company did was not to interfere with his/her decision, but to determine a strategy for his well-being and security with the advice of the Security Office of the state. We know what we recommend to his/her and why, and he/she knows it too. If this were not the case, why would the company avoid an action that would make money!!? If the company cares about the patient enough to put aside even financial gain, this is not a fault but a virtue.
Security is not something that people would ignore to prove something to each other. At the end of the day, the patient is already free to make and implement the decision he/she wants.
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Both the doctor he/she trusts and the hotel he/she chooses to stay in are part of our company as solution partners, and we have a protocol that officially binds the parties. Therefore, his/her choice to continue with the company's solution partners in/directly proves that the company can create a reliable basis.
What the company did was not to interfere with his/her decision, but to determine a strategy for his well-being and security with the advice of the Security Office of the state. We know what we recommend to his/her and why, and he/she knows it too. If this were not the case, why would the company avoid an action that would make money!!? If the company cares about the patient enough to put aside even financial gain, this is not a fault but a virtue.
Security is not something that people would ignore to prove something to each other. At the end of the day, the patient is already free to make and implement the decision he/she wants.
You are cheeky. She cooperates with the doctor just because she believes in the doctor’s skills and has nothing to do with the company. She does not cooperate with the company and stays in a hotel that you won’t let her stay in. This proves that she don’t give a to you and your company.
She has nothing to do with your company now, has not used any of your company's services, and is not a patient of your company. Please stop consuming her. If you really wanted to protect her, you wouldn't expose her for a second surgery here. Let those who want to harm her know her whereabouts.
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What the company did was not to interfere with his/her decision, but to determine a strategy for his well-being and security with the advice of the Security Office of the state. We know what we recommend to his/her and why, and he/she knows it too. If this were not the case, why would the company avoid an action that would make money!!? If the company cares about the patient enough to put aside even financial gain, this is not a fault but a virtue.
Security is not something that people would ignore to prove something to each other. At the end of the day, the patient is already free to make and implement the decision he/she wants.
You kept talking about protecting the patient, but exposed her whereabouts on the forum You only care about the reputation of your own company, regardless of the lives of patients.You casually expose the patient's privacy, what a dirty company.
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What the company did was not to interfere with his/her decision, but to determine a strategy for his well-being and security with the advice of the Security Office of the state. We know what we recommend to his/her and why, and he/she knows it too. If this were not the case, why would the company avoid an action that would make money!!? If the company cares about the patient enough to put aside even financial gain, this is not a fault but a virtue.
Security is not something that people would ignore to prove something to each other. At the end of the day, the patient is already free to make and implement the decision he/she wants.
And you did this even though you knew someone who had hurt her was coming to Turkey.
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:))))))) Our real effort is outside of this forum and is being recorded. With support our lawyers and other officials...
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Y'all are making jokes, and playing games with peoples lives right now. FYI. I Dont know what occurred, what I do know is business, and if these accusations are not 100% truthful then you could potentially be ruining a business whom provides a service to change lives like it changed yours. I had my surgery done elsewhere in Turkey but damnnnn like what the **** I couldn't believe what I was reading
Yes it's all true that's why we are getting the word out there. Do not come to this company either go AFA or LLT. Unfortunately you might know business but this WBT is an absolute bell end and know nothing of business and this person behide this WBT official is shameless when it comes to lying. Hides behide a computer screen instead actually visiting patients because he knows he will get beaten in argument and run away like a beaten dog. He knows the problems are real that why he posts rubbish about patients/company on here something no legitimate company would ever do. He's allowing himself to be bullied on this forum. is this a grown man or a child? Would you trust your legs to him? No way.
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The mission of the WBT is to speak out against those who question them and against those patient who have been harmed. Make people think that it is the patient who does not cherish their own legs and causes their own legs to be disabled, We--WBT love patients very much, it's not our business, we are just intermediaries, etc
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SIMPLE SUMMARY
WBT: But if you don't like it, you can stay anywhere else you want. Many of our patients already stay either in their own homes (those who have a home) or in hotels of their choice, and we continue to offer all services to them.
I want to know if they don't stay at your designated hotel and get infected. What will you do? You will use this as an excuse to transfer all responsibility to this patient. WBT：He/she is infected entirely because he/she did not stay in our hotel, and we are not responsible.
Just like you treated that infected girl, Sarah.
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I want to know if they don't stay at your designated hotel and get infected. What will you do? You will use this as an excuse to transfer all responsibility to this patient. WBT：He/she is infected entirely because he/she did not stay in our hotel, and we are not responsible.
Just like you treated that infected girl, Sarah.
YES, I was also confused that AT FIRST,WBT official said that they SUPPORT patients staying at other hotels. BUT, when the patient's infection occurred, they said they have strongly OPPOSED the patient staying at other hotels.
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And I don't understand what's the relationship between an infection and continuing to lengthen limbs.
Continuing to lengthen limbs can lead to infection? It's impossible, isn't it? So why did the WBT official shift the topic. If a doctor says that continuing to lengthen limbs can lead to infection, then the doctor is definitely a quack, and such a doctor cannot guarantee that your legs are safe. My suggestion is staying away!!! Please.
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:))))))) Our real effort is outside of this forum and is being recorded. With support our lawyers and other officials...
Voluntarily surrender yourself to officials?
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play the trick of a thief crying "Stop thief!"
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Yes, I am a rapist and murderer. My name is Chen ZhiXiang. Because this fking brat sabotaged my rape plan, I tricked him into my room and prepared to stab him to death. I have made a thorough plan that is sufficient to deal with the police's interrogation. As long as the police inquire, I can say that this man entered my room for robbery and was stabbed to death by me on the spot. The dead person will not argue, and the hotel surveillance is just a decoration. It's very perfect. Am I very smart? But not stabbing that man to death was my biggest mistake.fk!! !But this bastard stayed in the hospital for a month, and I am still very happy. Anyone who sabotages my rape plan will have to die.
Secondly, I am very grateful to WBT for sheltering me and helping me. If any of you dare to speak bad words of WBT again, I will also stab you to death.
I had a neutral attitude towards this matter before, but after I saw the girl in person, I knew everything she said was right. She is a very beautiful child. When you open your eyes and see what the rapist looks like, it's pretty much Beauty and the Beast. Are you trying to convince me that the beautiful woman takes the initiative to seduce the beast? Stop dreaming, bro😂 Trying to confuse the public, Embellish the attempted rape as her took the initiative to have sex with you. Do you want others to misunderstand that you successfully had sex with a beautiful little girl ? Let’s not talk about the video first. The comparison between her beauty and the beast as ugly as a big elephant has already told me that everything she said is true.
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Ha, ho, hebele, hübele, WBT is rapist, communist, machinist, victim, santim, rape, grape, bla, bla, bla, vkmdfkskfd,hgdkkgdkgd,sıeıwqreıurıur, etc......
Lol, mol, kol, rape, shape, cape, rapist, modernist, positivist, capitalist, hebele, hübele, WBT, PKK, KGB, FARC, we are anti rapist, we are spiderman, no! no! we think we are batman, ashskskdksakakaahkskskd, bla, bla, bla, etc.......
Hebele, hübele, askaksaka, askaskaskask, the hotel is very bad, the thieves come at night, even Hallowen came at one point, and he was about to kill me, but I kicked him. At the very moment, the Jigsaw man also just arrived! Just as he was about to destroy my fixator with the huge saw in his hand. I threw the extension key in my hand and blinded him, then he got so scared and ran away. WBT is affiliated with Hallowen and Jigsaw! Don't come! It's so scary, bla, bla, bla.......
WBT is WBT.... WBT is USA... WBT is TBW.... WBT is BTW ....WBT is WTB, WBT is CIA, WBT is FBI, bla, bla, bla, etc.........
They: Hebele, hübele, ashkashkashka, xashaxashahaca, We can't do this, they prefer to stay silent, but we won't stay silent, bla, bla, bla...Haaarr, vaaarrr, hir, gur, hebele, hübele, you are number two, you are official! You are special! you are financial! no! no! you are lawyer!, akasashfhdhs, aksaısadweuwwdh, ashkhakakaksassksh, bla, bla, bla, etc....
What's this? Dog language? WannaBeDog? hhh.
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They: WBT destroyed many patients.
WBT: Who are these many patients? Can you present any information?
The first victim can be traced back to the first Chinese patient in 2020. The surgery took place on August 3rd, but after the operation, the foot cannot be hooked due to damage to the peroneal nerve. Subsequent repairs required multiple surgeries and were full of difficulties.
The second victim, known as Zian online, documented the lengthening process through live broadcasts in the group. The lengthening process went well, but during the removal of the external fixator, the foot's nerve was injured, causing constant pain. This victim holds a deep resentment towards Wannabetaller.
The third victim had a procedure done by the W team in Turkey. Due to issues with the intramedullary needle and the doctor's skills, the lengthening process failed multiple times, leading to repeated surgeries and replacement of the intramedullary needle. The victim underwent four surgeries in Turkey, resulting in non-union of bones. They also faced threats from the team. Even after returning to China, the victim is still undergoing repairs.
The fourth victim's case has been documented on various platforms, and it is widely known. Due to delays from Wannabetaller in treating the wound, the victim eventually developed bone marrow infection. She have undergone multiple surgeries and are still in the process of recovery, using an external fixator. The whole experience has been extremely tragic.
Come from v5 at another post.
WBT:
Hebele, hübele, You are the same person, slandering us,Hebele, and you are despicable, deliberate, and false,ashkashkashka, xashaxashahaca, We can't do this, they prefer to stay silent, but we won't stay silent, bla, bla, bla...Haaarr, vaaarrr, hir, gur, hebele, hübele, I am number two, I am official! I am special! I virtuous! no! no! lawyer!, akasashfhdhs, aksaısadweuwwdh, ashkhakakaksassksh, bla, bla, bla, etc....
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What the company did was not to interfere with his/her decision, but to determine a strategy for his well-being and security with the advice of the Security Office of the state. We know what we recommend to his/her and why, and he/she knows it too. If this were not the case, why would the company avoid an action that would make money!!? If the company cares about the patient enough to put aside even financial gain, this is not a fault but a virtue.
Security is not something that people would ignore to prove something to each other. At the end of the day, the patient is already free to make and implement the decision he/she wants.
That girl can live wherever she likes, she can have a second surgery if she wants . Why should she listen to your instructions? You're so funny. You didn't pay for her surgery and accommodation, and also you're not her father. Who gave you the right to make irresponsible remarks? Please don't be so thick-skinned. Saying that you are doing it for her own good but exposing her whereabouts,you are as funny as a monkey in a circus. You look more like an old goat tho.Please shut your mouth up.You and your staff stop ordering her to do what you want her to do. Please realize that you have no such right at all.I think if she really shouldn't be staying at this hotel the police will tell her themselves, it's not your turn. You and your staff are so hypocritical that it makes me feel disgusted . :-[
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This thread is absolute madness