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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: MirinHeight on October 23, 2017, 11:42:21 PM

Title: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: MirinHeight on October 23, 2017, 11:42:21 PM
I have narrowed down to these two surgeons to go to for LL.

Please help me reach a decision. Will be going to either one of them in 1-2 years.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: Bander72 on October 23, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
I don't see the difficult decision in choosing between Italy and India.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: google42 on October 24, 2017, 12:28:59 AM
If you can pay to go to Italy then go there.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: KiloKAHN on October 24, 2017, 04:26:31 AM
There's no doubt you will be getting a grade A surgeon with Dr Parihar. Dr Pili seems to have a good track record, too. The difference really comes down to whether or not you'd find it worthwhile to spend at least an additional $8,000 with Pili simply for the benefit of being in a nicer looking hospital for 10 days tops. That's important for some people, but many did just fine with the level of cleanliness in the Beijing clinic, and according to at least 1 former Beijing patient, Dr Parihar's patient ward looks on par with what they had, and his hospital's bathrooms are certainly better
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: MirinHeight on October 24, 2017, 07:06:36 AM
There's no doubt you will be getting a grade A surgeon with Dr Parihar. Dr Pili seems to have a good track record, too. The difference really comes down to whether or not you'd find it worthwhile to spend at least an additional $8,000 with Pili simply for the benefit of being in a nicer looking hospital for 10 days tops. That's important for some people, but many did just fine with the level of cleanliness in the Beijing clinic, and according to at least 1 former Beijing patient, Dr Parihar's patient ward looks on par with what they had, and his hospital's bathrooms are certainly better

Thanks man. I know Dr. Parihar is one of the best, if not the best ll surgeon in the world. I've seen him take care of some very very gruesome injuries on his site and is recommended by Dr. Paley as well. And he doesn't promote the surgery at all

I am also Indian. So there will be no communication issue with nurses, etc as well.

The only downside to Parihar is the hospital imo. Thats the only thing I am worried about.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: KiloKAHN on October 24, 2017, 11:48:08 AM
What exactly are you worried about though as far as his hospital is concerned?
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: 0184946 on October 24, 2017, 09:57:03 PM
What exactly are you worried about though as far as his hospital is concerned?

Mirin is probably worried about the lack of luxury since in that one diary (forgot the name) but the user posted pictures and it didn't look promising or secure. It was a small hospital and a bit run down. Not that it takes away from Dr. Parihar's knowledge cause I'd feel secure to be operated on by him but personally to me it makes me feel paranoid deep inside. I'd still let parihar perform on me but thats probably what mirin means.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: fivetenneeded2016 on October 25, 2017, 09:05:16 AM
There's no doubt you will be getting a grade A surgeon with Dr Parihar. Dr Pili seems to have a good track record, too. The difference really comes down to whether or not you'd find it worthwhile to spend at least an additional $8,000 with Pili simply for the benefit of being in a nicer looking hospital for 10 days tops. That's important for some people, but many did just fine with the level of cleanliness in the Beijing clinic, and according to at least 1 former Beijing patient, Dr Parihar's patient ward looks on par with what they had, and his hospital's bathrooms are certainly better
Not just a better hospital but you would be using HEF. But again you might have to do ATL with him(but, people who have done under him, have no complaints). Plus I feel you could lengthen more under Pili after ATL.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: fivetenneeded2016 on October 25, 2017, 09:06:46 AM
Not just a better hospital but you would be using HEF. But again you might have to do ATL with him(but, people who have done under him, have no complaints). Plus I feel you could lengthen more under Pili after ATL.
I could be wrong, but thats just how i look into it.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: MirinHeight on October 25, 2017, 10:18:54 AM
Thank you for everyone that has responded.
I have decided to get the ll surgery done with Dr. Pilli.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: Bander72 on October 25, 2017, 11:26:09 AM
Not just a better hospital but you would be using HEF. But again you might have to do ATL with him(but, people who have done under him, have no complaints). Plus I feel you could lengthen more under Pili after ATL.

Highly unlikely he does atl if he really does just 3 cm.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: MirinHeight on October 25, 2017, 12:20:53 PM
Highly unlikely he does atl if he really does just 3 cm.

goal is 3.5 cm

to reach 182.5; 6 feet

That will be a great gain for me
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: Bander72 on October 25, 2017, 01:59:40 PM
goal is 3.5 cm

to reach 182.5; 6 feet

That will be a great gain for me

Yeah you will not be likely to need atl at that amount, just be consistent with streching.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: KiloKAHN on October 25, 2017, 07:33:55 PM
Both the HEF fixator and the 3-ring Ilizarov use a pin and wire combo and the healing time would be the same using either of them. Dr Parihar would use hexapod struts at the end of lengthening if necessary, however, essentially turning the fixator into a Taylor Spatial Frame and ensuring the most precise alignment possible.

So it still boils down to paying more to be in a nicer hospital for a week.

Not just a better hospital but you would be using HEF. But again you might have to do ATL with him(but, people who have done under him, have no complaints). Plus I feel you could lengthen more under Pili after ATL.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: Bander72 on October 26, 2017, 04:34:55 AM
Both the HEF fixator and the 3-ring Ilizarov use a pin and wire combo and the healing time would be the same using either of them. Dr Parihar would use hexapod struts at the end of lengthening if necessary, however, essentially turning the fixator into a Taylor Spatial Frame and ensuring the most precise alignment possible.

So it still boils down to paying more to be in a nicer hospital for a week.

But parihar will want you to stay in India for lengthening. It might not be a problem for him since he's Indian but as a foreigner you probably had experienced people trying to con you there. Not to mention unsanitary streets and food that can give you food poison.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: Android on October 26, 2017, 06:02:30 AM
But parihar will want you to stay in India for lengthening. It might not be a problem for him since he's Indian but as a foreigner you probably had experienced people trying to con you there. Not to mention unsanitary streets and food that can give you food poison.

Been to India twice, it's not much of a concern since you'd be staying at a hotel during lengthening anyway. I never got food poisoning either, and boy was the food good (if you like spicy anyway).

There's no denying that Lecco is a nicer place overall, but you're only going to be in these locations for a few months. In the end I'd place more emphasis on which doctor you want and how much you're willing to pay.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: KiloKAHN on October 26, 2017, 12:33:45 PM
But parihar will want you to stay in India for lengthening. It might not be a problem for him since he's Indian but as a foreigner you probably had experienced people trying to con you there. Not to mention unsanitary streets and food that can give you food poison.

I did get a stomach bug for a few days from eating some ice cream from an outdoor freezer that wasn't fully frozen, which was stupid of me. But nothing I had delivered to me or prepped by the hotel caused me any problems. The butter naan was particularly amazing. You probably get some people who try to charge you a little extra, but it's still very small change compared to what you'd be paying elsewhere. Maybe I got lucky with the people I ran into, but everyone was particularly helpful and honest. A cab driver even returned my Macbook Pro to me in the first hotel I stayed in after I had mistakenly left it in the trunk.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: Android on October 26, 2017, 04:51:49 PM
A cab driver even returned my Macbook Pro to me in the first hotel I stayed in after I had mistakenly left it in the trunk.

That's a great story since the odds of them finding you again is so low.

I left my passport in the hotel room safe once, realized this hours into an eight hour car ride (cyclone destroyed destination airport). Got it back no problem, but I must admit Novotel was an awesome hotel, so I wouldn't expect anything less. Five-star for $99/night was a great splurge; wouldn't pick them for long-stay, but it'd be nice for the first few days.
Title: Re: Dr. Pilli or Dr. Parihar for external tibias?
Post by: 419 on November 01, 2017, 09:36:40 PM
That's a great story since the odds of them finding you again is so low.

I left my passport in the hotel room safe once, realized this hours into an eight hour car ride (cyclone destroyed destination airport). Got it back no problem, but I must admit Novotel was an awesome hotel, so I wouldn't expect anything less. Five-star for $99/night was a great splurge; wouldn't pick them for long-stay, but it'd be nice for the first few days.

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