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Community Hangout => Off Topic => Topic started by: Wannabegiant on June 05, 2014, 06:12:37 PM
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So in my lonely days during the consolidation period i have had way to much time to think about things, mostly depressing things to be honest, all my friends and other young people are out and having fun while i will spend majority of this summer in my house in isolation. Fortunately there have been a lot of rainy and gray days so far this summer.
Anyway one thing i came to realize that is a big deal in my life right now, is that no matter how much you like a girl or enjoy being with her, you should never accept the friendzone if you get there..
First of all she expects you to accept her terms while she refused your terms, and when you get down to it, regardless of what explanations or sugar coating they might say to make you want to be friends, she still thinks she is better than you, and too good for you. I personally would never want to hang out with someone who made it obvious that they think less of you.
I was debating wheter i was gonna get in touch with a girl i mentioned before who not only friendzoned me, but constantly made it very obvious that she thought she was "above" me. She got a bit humbled after i ditched her and she tried to get me back, and while i really wanted to see her in person with my new height, this thing simply takes way to long to get done so at this point i just hope i will run into her some day, just so i can put her down a notch.
So i guess id like to know if some of you guys still hang out as friends with girls who you liked but didnt want you? if you do, how does it feel? (im talking from a guys perspective but i realize that girls probably get friendzoned to once in a while)
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I have some female friends, but only ones I was never interested in in the first place. I never hang out with women who I have a thing for but only see me as a friend. If I want to be around women that I'm sexually attracted to but can't touch, I just go to the nudie bar.
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yes of course, i have female friends too that im not interested in, but also some that i would "do" if given the opportunity but i dont even go there because it would be akward and the friendship is good as it is.
However if i have tried to get someone i wanted and get refused, then i could never agree to hang out with that person anymore, its just humiliating to be honest.
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It's awkward and you're just tormenting yourself by still hanging out with the woman. It's very hard to be "just friends" with someone you're very attracted to, especially if the person has rejected you. I couldn't remain just friends after that and would distance myself.
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There's a simple thing : u want something go get it, u don't want it don't go for it, its even more successful when u are mysterious
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The thing that really sucks in my case, is that im fairly confident that this specific girl im referring to would have been very attracted to me if i had been:
1. taller
2. dressed better
3. more muscular
4. more "status" (measured from facebook and instagram likes i guess)
And the only reason i didnt dress impressively and work on my physique was because of my lack of height..and status/popularity would have been pretty easy to get if you had all of the other 3 + good looks. It would be much easier to talk to random people this way.
She already told me several times i was good looking and that she loved my eyes etc, but she didnt want to be intimate with me because when that happens usually you lose contact with that person pretty quickly (in her experience). But that was just sugar coating im almost certain of. Because as soon as a guy with more status and height appeared she went for it. But yeah she lost contact with him pretty quickly.
So the problem is that there is a good possibility that the "first impression" makes it impossible for me to get her even if i get all the other things i lacked when i met her, but there is a small possibility that she wouldnt be able to resist me if she saw the new me 8). But i dont know if it is worth trying unless i see her by chance when im out.
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A girl that dont have something with you because you arent tall is a girl that doesnt worth it
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You say you don't like being friends with a girl who put you in the friendzone, since it's them seeing themselves as better than you, but then you put females in the friendzone? What if one of those female friends is interested in you, would you cut them off?
Idk her, but it's not wrong having opposite sex friends. They're great for advice about the other gender and for opinions.
Anyway, if it makes you feel better, I spent 22/24 summers doing nothing too. And the 2 summers I did something were for a week at a time. I didn't even have a choice with the sucky life too, moving 13x as a kid and now living out in the middle of nowhere and work alone= my social life and opportunities have been cauterized.
Also, +1 to KirP1's post. If she friendzoned you cuz of your height then she's not worth being anything more than a friend anyway. Dun be bent up about this IMO.
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You say you don't like being friends with a girl who put you in the friendzone, since it's them seeing themselves as better than you, but then you put females in the friendzone? What if one of those female friends is interested in you, would you cut them off?
Idk her, but it's not wrong having opposite sex friends. They're great for advice about the other gender and for opinions.
Anyway, if it makes you feel better, I spent 22/24 summers doing nothing too. And the 2 summers I did something were for a week at a time. I didn't even have a choice with the sucky life too, moving 13x as a kid and now living out in the middle of nowhere and work alone= my social life and opportunities have been cauterized.
Also, +1 to KirP1's post. If she friendzoned you cuz of your height then she's not worth being anything more than a friend anyway. Dun be bent up about this IMO.
Well I have never put a girl in the friendzone, the only times i have "rejected" girls where at parties or random hangouts where i just had met the girl and they made some kind of advance on me, i didnt say right out that i wasnt interested but i usually make up some excuse and walk away. Girls i have known for a while, if some of them did like me, they didnt make a move or ask me out, so no way for me to put them in the friend zone. I wouldnt expect such a girl to want to hang out with me if i flat out rejected them though.
The thing is, im a very proud individual, and i would never take advice from a girl on how to pick up girls, partly because i dont need their help, i have pretty good success rate actually. The other reason is that just accepting help from a girl implicates that i need their help and that im not any good at it, so i wouldnt do it even if i needed help because of pride, especially not from a girl who rejected me.
And btw, i quite a lot of good summers, of course they could have been much better because i always had some problem in the back of my head, but i managed to ignore it at times and enjoy life. Socializing and seeing girls, but i never felt i was the person i wanted to be so of course i was depressed at the same time. Im sorry if you had so many unpleasant summers :-\
But this girl, she didnt necessarily reject me because of height (she is really short but possibly she has a height complex and only dates tall guys) but i noticed her giving more attention to the tall guys at parties compared to others and myself even though i had known her for a longer time.
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Ah crap.. seems this girl i mentioned has gotten a new boyfriend.. i dont know what he looks like but it annoys me that she seemingly is still enjoying life as much as ever while i cant do anything yet. Im starting to think that she wont care enough about losing me unless i get reallly high status at this point. Well at this new height its possible but maybe its to late and i dont think it will be worth all that effort. god dammit.
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I think you should view this as a new start to life. and focus on the future instead of the past.
im sure you will get all the status you want and all the girls you can handle when your back to 100% :)
good luck wannabegiant, and I wish you a speedy recovery :)
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oops I didn't realize this thread was a few months old lol my bad. this is probably ancient history by now.
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How much did you lengthen and what was your starting height?
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I think you should view this as a new start to life. and focus on the future instead of the past.
im sure you will get all the status you want and all the girls you can handle when your back to 100% :)
good luck wannabegiant, and I wish you a speedy recovery :)
Hey man thanks for the encouragement ;), youre right i should focus on the future instead. and yeah ure right, not ancient but a lot has changed since my last comment here.
it seems this girl wasnt in a relationship with that guy, and now she is doing some abroad study program in Bali with some friends, but interestingly, she hasnt uploaded any pictures on her fb or instagram despite having been there for over a month. Her two friends she traveled with have updated both of their fb and instagram with photos regulary, one of them do it several times a day.
This girl i like is tagged in a few of her friends photos which they uploaded of course, but i find it weird how she isnt uploading anything her self and not commenting on any picture. When i used to hang out with her she posted lots of photos all the time. She started to change around the time i ditched her, but honestly after all this time i thought for sure she should be back to normal, but as mentioned she is still not acting like she used to in regards to social media.
I cant help analyzing this stuff when im in my current condition, fortunately it seems i might be able to remove these frames within 2 weeks from now.
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How much did you lengthen and what was your starting height?
Why don't you read his diary? Anyways, he went from 175 to 179.
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fortunately it seems i might be able to remove these frames within 2 weeks from now.
That is awesome news! How is your walking at this point? Do you still feel especially attracted to this girl?
How do you plan on beginning to increase your social value now that you're taller? I am about your new height and I can tell you that a great social life doesn't happen automatically at 179. You've got to really work towards it. I think that's the case at any height though.
There's no doubt in my mind that it will be easier to get to where you want to be, socially, at 179 than 175, but having a plan of how to get there would still go a very long way.
How are you going to reintegrate into your old world?
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How much did you lengthen and what was your starting height?
I was 174-175 cm, now i am 178-179 cm. So its a decent gain, enough to be noticable but not so much that it will be obvious i did some surgical incision, only my close friends would realize the change immediately i think.
I live in Sweden though, so now i am close to average height here, and taller than ca 95% of women id say.
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That is awesome news! How is your walking at this point? Do you still feel especially attracted to this girl?
How do you plan on beginning to increase your social value now that you're taller? I am about your new height and I can tell you that a great social life doesn't happen automatically at 179. You've got to really work towards it. I think that's the case at any height though.
There's no doubt in my mind that it will be easier to get to where you want to be, socially, at 179 than 175, but having a plan of how to get there would still go a very long way.
How are you going to reintegrate into your old world?
My walking inside houses (floors) is very close to pre-surgery level, and i can make it look 100% normal with a little bit of extra effort, no pain and legs feel quite light despite having the frames on. Walking outside on sloping ground is still a bit tricky though, but its improving and im sure with the frames removed it will instantly get easier due to not having he ankle pins in the way.
About the girl...yes im very attracted to her physically, that hasnt changed a bit.., her personality is entertaining also, but unfortunately i have many negative thoughts about her after how she treated me like a loser at times. Its a dilemma, part of me still wants her despite knowing that she probably isnt the right girl for me, even though she appears to regret her behaviour..
Yeah true im aware that being average height wont give me any significant social value automatically, however i have a very unique appearance, and i plan to add lots of muscle and train mixed martial arts as soon as i am allowed to. I will look like a guy that you dont want to mess with since i have a masculine menacing looking face, i dont intend to act like bully or douche (i hate that sort of thing) but i know that if i look tough i will get respected even if the other guys have 3 times as many likes on their photos as i do.
Also i dont have any trouble talking to new people, its just that im to proud to initiate new conversations with new people sometimes and if i notice that i have to work harder to get noticed i usually stop trying, but im sure i wont have to work nearly as hard in that regard now, which will make me more motivated to meet new people.
Also with the height problem gone, i can finally focus on doing things i should have done many years ago if i wasnt depressed..things like getting a drivers license, finishing my university program, dress more nicely, add muscle mass as mentioned, stuff like that..
Also i dont necessarily care to be super popular, i doubt il ever get there but it doesnt bother me. Considering how ty most of my life has been in comparison to most people where i live (at least those i know) im sure il be able to appreciate being decently popular more than the average dude who didnt have to work for it at all.
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congrats on 2 weeks left, the finish line is in sight. :) I skimmed over you diary also. :)
it always surprises me how long it takes to start walking again even after consolidation :(
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You worry too much man , becarful don't let your mind drive you too much thinking about the past isn't good for you at all and you will gain nothing , how did you know she rejected you cuz of your height ? If I was you I would fouces on what I'm doing now think about the future get in shape imagin your self in 6 month from now how woul you look like how your life gonna be , and trust me you will be happy .
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Don't cnatact her after you go back just live your life man . U deserve it now
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congrats on 2 weeks left, the finish line is in sight. :) I skimmed over you diary also. :)
it always surprises me how long it takes to start walking again even after consolidation :(
Thank you man! Yeah true although it still doesnt feel like it is almost over due to the fact that i probably will have to be so careful the first weeks without frames (even if they tell me the risk is very low of anything happening i will still be paranoid about it). Also getting back into my normal life will probably be difficult at first, many questions from friends to deal with probably.
Yeah i agree everything about this surgery takes much longer than i initially expected, but i think 2-3 months from now i will be able to walk completely normal even outdoors.
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You worry too much man , becarful don't let your mind drive you too much thinking about the past isn't good for you at all and you will gain nothing , how did you know she rejected you cuz of your height ? If I was you I would fouces on what I'm doing now think about the future get in shape imagin your self in 6 month from now how woul you look like how your life gonna be , and trust me you will be happy .
Yeah i know but this girl is kind of a symbol of why my life has always been crap since my teens started.. all the bad luck i had back then made me lose so much in terms of life experience, and even up until now i am still affected by that, i lack the popularity of many guys including many who are substantially uglier than i am, and while status wasnt as important when i was younger now it is really important if you want a beautiful girlfriend and an eventful life.
But im not saying height was the primary reason she rejected me, to be honest i didnt have much of anything when she met me. I didnt dress well, i was skinny, i was shorter than average, i didnt take care of my skin as well as i should have, and i had barely any photos on facebook/social medias (and those i had where really bad and not really representative of how i look).
So im not surprised at all that she friendzoned me, in fact i wouldnt even have talked to her in normal circumstances but she actively started calling me and wanting to hang out, I acted confident around her most of the time but deep inside i just knew she wasnt interested in me in a sexual way, and i didnt take long for me to find out that it was true either.
She treated me without any respect at times, but im not sure it was intentional, but regardless if i had taken better care of my appearance before i met her im certain things would have been different (who knows height might still have been a dealbreaker).
She seems to regret it since she was desperate to get me back after i stopped hanging out with her, but eventually she gave up because i said something hurtful to her. She probably thinks i dont care at all about her anymore. Im curious if she would act different around me now though since by the time she started adulating me i had started to dress a bit better and took better care of my skin and hair, got some much better photos uploaded too and more likes (status lol). Im not popular but at least i dont seem like a total loner/loser anymore on social media.
I know that with my new height, and with some muscle and fancy clothes, im easily on her level in terms of physical appearance. I will probably never reach her level of popularity though, its to late for me for that, unless i become very successful in my career or something.
Im to proud to just call her out of the blue now since its been so long, but i hope i run into her some day. still im trying to focus on the future instead even if she wont be a part of it.
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im just curious. what were some of the disrespectful ways she treated you?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ula8oi_M4Ww
sorry I had to post the video LOL :) :)
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im just curious. what were some of the disrespectful ways she treated you?
lol dont worry about the video, i love south park so :D
Yeah, well she would text me last minute to come hang out with her at some club (she wasnt there yet either but she lived much closer) several times, too late for me to be able to realistically ask my own friends if they want to join in. So basically she expects me to drop everything and come se her, and i did several times.
But every time when i got there, she had other friends or acquaintances there and would often disappear go talk to them and sometimes come back to me when she was bored, she had to talk to everybody and be at the center of attention all the time. Sure she would introduce me to some of her friends there, but after the initial introduction they mostly start to talk about intergroup stuff since they know each other and its hard for me to take part of those conversations, and since i couldnt bring my own friends i was kind of left out, and i dont like to mingle when i have to work hard to get into someone elses group you know, i doubt many people do.
I told her straight out eventually that she should tell me earlier if she expects me to hang out with her, and also make it clear that she didnt want to go out to see me but rather have me as some kind of sidekick, she took me for granted.
Also she would make kind of harsh jokes but of course i played along most of the time.
When talking on the phone or texting, she was considerate, funny and caring most of the time, but almost every time i saw her and other people where there it was so obvious that she would rather talk to those other people who might have had more status that i did, even though she told me she didnt know them that well, and i was often in the background, of course she talked to me too, but its annoying having to work so hard for her attention when she was the one who asked me to come.
There are also some other details which i mentioned in some other thread i believe, to much to get into but basically she slept with a guy with more status than i had only 4 days after meeting him, and this guy was from the same town as me so i knew him a little bit. Even knowing that i liked her she asked me about him if he was a nice guy and when i told her i didnt know if i wanted to stay around anymore knowing she was with him, she begged me to stay as a friend. she managed to convince me but maybe after a few months something else happened, basically she was going to go away for a trip for a month, and we hadnt seen each other for a some weeks so i asked her if she wanted to come to a party my friend was having so i we could hang out before she leaves. She said that she might be able to come.
Then the day of the party, she doesnt call until the clock was like eleven at night, (apparantly she had went to the cinema with some friends and the movie ended late) then she told me that she was at the bus stop close to the party and that she time to chat for a few minutes only before leaving. I was disappointed but i went outside to see her, then after talking a bit i wonder why she cant stay and why she came so far if she was going to go home already. She didnt want to tell me but she knew that there was no way to hide it, I found out she was going to go home to that other guy and sleep at his house. Of course i took big offense to that but i played it cool, although of course i intentionally made it obvious that i was pissed, she realized that but she is to much of a coward to bring it up or admit she screwed up.
I told her to get moving and have a nice trip, she wanted a hug but i didnt give it to her. After that i never initiated a text or phonecall to her again, she knew i was angry and eventually started to write flattering stuff, i responded occasionally but very cold and made it clear i wasnt interested in seeing her again without saying it straight out.
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I FOUND SECRET VIDEO FOOTAGE OF WANNABEGIANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol this is you wannabegiant the last time you saw that girl. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tuqy_aYINrw
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xD
Anyway, i doubt after all that has happened this can be fixed into something good, but i still want her to see the "new" me someday, on social media sure, but also in person so she can tell that i aint small anymore.
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I don't want to be rude WBG but I think being put in the friendzone is mostly your own fault. If you want to sleep with her just make that clear, act flirtatious and see if she reciprocates your feelings. If she does - great you're good to go, if not -great now you know and can move on to the next girl.
Personally I find it really hard to be friends with girls, I've tried but it never worked and nowadays I feel like I don't want to anyway. Most girls aren't very fun to be friends with just annoying.
Anyway if you make it clear what you want and that you're fine with her deciding either way then she will respect you at some level, maybe she'll also call you up if later if she's feeling horny and are alone -or not. Don't expect every girl to jump into bed with you and to be honest you shouldn't just expect people to respect you either. If you are worthy of respect you will get it it's not a right and you won't get it from everyone - that's okay no one wins every time.
If most girls are "friendzoning" (A.K.A rejecting) you I'm sorry - you're not very attractive or at least not very sexual. Might be you're coming of in a friendly way, remember: sex is not for friends. Just make sure you know what you want, and that she knows, if she tries to be a pal don't act like she's one of your buddys back beacause then you are -you guessed it- friends.
Finally don't talk to that girl if she doesn't want sex and you don't want her as a friend you're done with each other. Going back to her just screems the same neediness that made her reject you in the first place.
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I don't want to be rude WBG but I think being put in the friendzone is mostly your own fault. If you want to sleep with her just make that clear, act flirtatious and see if she reciprocates your feelings. If she does - great you're good to go, if not -great now you know and can move on to the next girl.
Personally I find it really hard to be friends with girls, I've tried but it never worked and nowadays I feel like I don't want to anyway. Most girls aren't very fun to be friends with just annoying.
Anyway if you make it clear what you want and that you're fine with her deciding either way then she will respect you at some level, maybe she'll also call you up if later if she's feeling horny and are alone -or not. Don't expect every girl to jump into bed with you and to be honest you shouldn't just expect people to respect you either. If you are worthy of respect you will get it it's not a right and you won't get it from everyone - that's okay no one wins every time.
If most girls are "friendzoning" (A.K.A rejecting) you I'm sorry - you're not very attractive or at least not very sexual. Might be you're coming of in a friendly way, remember: sex is not for friends. Just make sure you know what you want, and that she knows, if she tries to be a pal don't act like she's one of your buddys back beacause then you are -you guessed it- friends.
Finally don't talk to that girl if she doesn't want sex and you don't want her as a friend you're done with each other. Going back to her just screems the same neediness that made her reject you in the first place.
I wouldnt say it is anybodys fault i was put into the friendzone, and being put into the friendzone is not the reason i was angry at her anyway, i did her a favor and tried to be her friend after that because she didnt want to lose me as a friend, even though i probably should have stopped hanging out with her immediately. I only had known her for like 2-3 months before i was friendzoned, and in that time i had met her in person maybe 5 times if i recall correctly, and i realize you have to make your intention clear from the beginning but im sure she would have rejected me anyway if i asked her from the beginning and then it would probably have ended right there. I did try to flirt with her occasionally but she would laugh it off and change subject.
I treated her the same way after i was friendzoned, although i stopped flirting for the most part.
Its completely understandable why she wasnt attracted to me in the first place, i assumed that was the case which is why i at first didnt make any move on her, she made an effort to hang out with me a lot and send lots of messages even though we just met in school, if she didnt do that its likely i would never had tried to get to know her better, since i wasnt happy with myself back then.
The reason i was lacking in so many areas prior to meeting her is technically not my own fault either, i had a series of bad events which i had no control over happen to me during my teens, which has affected my life in all areas. When you are depressed you often dont even try to work on yourself, but i tried anyway but it took me much longer to improve since i had so many things against me. Many things other than height.
Only now after this LL is done do i feel i can reach my full potential in terms of physical appearance, which many of my friends did by the time they where 18-20 years old.
She changed though for sure after i left, she changed the way she talked to me, and she is way less active on social media now. Now im not sure if she would be any different in person if i meet her, but its something i would like to find out. But at this point she is probably angry and sad because she thinks i dont care about her at all, so i expect her to be in defensive mode if i meet her. Part of me just wants to sleep with her since im attracted to her, part of me want to be with her because other than her superficial and arrogant traits she was very fun to talk to and made my boring life more enjoyable at times. But i cant really see it working out in anyway because of the bad experiences in the past with her.
I agree with you that it is difficult to be friends with girls since they for the most part dont do things i enjoy doing, and if you are attracted to them it can become akward at times.
I dont find myself being friendzoned alot since most girls i meet are at clubs, so i either get rejected or score, this girl was different though since i met her at school and she for some reason really wanted to hang out with me even though i didnt make an effort to talk to her in the beginning.
As for respect, i dont agree, there is a certain level of respect that you should be able to expect. If you notice someone treating you worse than others openly then there is a reason to make a deal out of it. If she expects me to go out and meet her last minute in some club in the city (she lives much closer as mentioned) then i at least expect her to want to actually hang out with me when i get there, not hang out with some other people and occasionally talk to me, since i wasnt able to bring my own friends.
And just to make it clear, i didnt show her any kind of neediness (if i did it must have been miniscule) when i met her and hanged out with her. As i mentioned she kept spamming me with texts and calls, i was laidback and made her laugh a lot with my jokes, we mostly talked random stuff, and i was acting confident when i was out with her. But as mentioned the only time i reacted "badly" was when it became clear that she just wanted me there as a sidekick, i mean i dont think anybody wants to be treated that way, she asked me to come out and see her, i did that, but then she barely hangs out with me and instead starts mingling with all the more popular dudes, i would be fine with it if i had someone i knew with me, but im not the type of guy to just start talking to random people in a bar when im basically alone and not drunk.
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I wouldnt say it is anybodys fault i was put into the friendzone, and being put into the friendzone is not the reason i was angry at her anyway, i did her a favor and tried to be her friend after that because she didnt want to lose me as a friend, even though i probably should have stopped hanging out with her immediately. I only had known her for like 2-3 months before i was friendzoned, and in that time i had met her in person maybe 5 times if i recall correctly, and i realize you have to make your intention clear from the beginning but im sure she would have rejected me anyway if i asked her from the beginning and then it would probably have ended right there. I did try to flirt with her occasionally but she would laugh it off and change subject.
I treated her the same way after i was friendzoned, although i stopped flirting for the most part.
Its completely understandable why she wasnt attracted to me in the first place, i assumed that was the case which is why i at first didnt make any move on her, she made an effort to hang out with me a lot and send lots of messages even though we just met in school, if she didnt do that its likely i would never had tried to get to know her better, since i wasnt happy with myself back then.
The reason i was lacking in so many areas prior to meeting her is technically not my own fault either, i had a series of bad events which i had no control over happen to me during my teens, which has affected my life in all areas. When you are depressed you often dont even try to work on yourself, but i tried anyway but it took me much longer to improve since i had so many things against me. Many things other than height.
Only now after this LL is done do i feel i can reach my full potential in terms of physical appearance, which many of my friends did by the time they where 18-20 years old.
She changed though for sure after i left, she changed the way she talked to me, and she is way less active on social media now. Now im not sure if she would be any different in person if i meet her, but its something i would like to find out. But at this point she is probably angry and sad because she thinks i dont care about her at all, so i expect her to be in defensive mode if i meet her. Part of me just wants to sleep with her since im attracted to her, part of me want to be with her because other than her superficial and arrogant traits she was very fun to talk to and made my boring life more enjoyable at times. But i cant really see it working out in anyway because of the bad experiences in the past with her.
I agree with you that it is difficult to be friends with girls since they for the most part dont do things i enjoy doing, and if you are attracted to them it can become akward at times.
I dont find myself being friendzoned alot since most girls i meet are at clubs, so i either get rejected or score, this girl was different though since i met her at school and she for some reason really wanted to hang out with me even though i didnt make an effort to talk to her in the beginning.
As for respect, i dont agree, there is a certain level of respect that you should be able to expect. If you notice someone treating you worse than others openly then there is a reason to make a deal out of it. If she expects me to go out and meet her last minute in some club in the city (she lives much closer as mentioned) then i at least expect her to want to actually hang out with me when i get there, not hang out with some other people and occasionally talk to me, since i wasnt able to bring my own friends.
And just to make it clear, i didnt show her any kind of neediness (if i did it must have been miniscule) when i met her and hanged out with her. As i mentioned she kept spamming me with texts and calls, i was laidback and made her laugh a lot with my jokes, we mostly talked random stuff, and i was acting confident when i was out with her. But as mentioned the only time i reacted "badly" was when it became clear that she just wanted me there as a sidekick, i mean i dont think anybody wants to be treated that way, she asked me to come out and see her, i did that, but then she barely hangs out with me and instead starts mingling with all the more popular dudes, i would be fine with it if i had someone i knew with me, but im not the type of guy to just start talking to random people in a bar when im basically alone and not drunk.
Okay man I didn't mean anything by it I'm sure you'll do even better with the chicks now that you're taller. Are you recovering well, when do you get the frames off?
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Okay man I didn't mean anything by it I'm sure you'll do even better with the chicks now that you're taller. Are you recovering well, when do you get the frames off?
Haha sorry for my wall of text, i didnt get offended but i always want to give the complete picture when discussing topics important to me, especially since i rarely talk about this in real life, i dont have those kind of friends that like to analyse girls that much.
Well yeah definitely, because with the height gain i finally feel like it is worth it to improve my other areas, so overall i will look like a very different person.
I tried walking outside yesterday and noticed huge improvements (i walk outdoors ca once a week for the last 2 months) and at this point i can walk and look almost normal even outside without aid. My frames will most likely be removed within 2 weeks from now, i will do another x-ray on monday to see if my left leg is healed, my right leg was done over a month ago.
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You are obsessed with this 1 biatch that you put on a pedestal and is constantly on your mind. Probably cuz you're still in frames and you only have her to think of.
As soon as you'll get a new gf, you'll mostly forget about the "ex", works every time!
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You are obsessed with this 1 biatch that you put on a pedestal and is constantly on your mind. Probably cuz you're still in frames and you only have her to think of.
As soon as you'll get a new gf, you'll mostly forget about the "ex", works every time!
Hey i assure you i never put her on a pedestal (well i really really liked her but i didnt make it nearly as obvious to her, i just told her that i like her and flirted a bit, i never treated her like she was better than me)
But youre right, the main reason she is on my mind is the fact that i have the frames on and cant meet new girls, also i kind of didnt want to finish it with her back then because i always wanted to meet her again after i was taller, but it took so long to do this that it might be to late and there is no point anymore.
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I hear you, you wanna stick it to her, normal. Its a battle in the back of your head that you have to win, self-accomplishment. But as soon as you'll be dating other chix, that challenge won't seem as important anymore.
If you ever pick her up let us know, a good comeback is always fun! ;)
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I hear you, you wanna stick it to her, normal. Its a battle in the back of your head that you have to win, self-accomplishment. But as soon as you'll be dating other chix, that challenge won't seem as important anymore.
If you ever pick her up let us know, a good comeback is always fun! ;)
Thank you man, thats exactly it, and in my mind the only thing i have to do to "win" is to become similarly popular to her (which will be worth more since im a guy) and gain muscle and dress good. Because those things where the only advantages she had over me. Im sure she will feel bad and maybe regret as well if she sees me like that.
I think LL taking so ridiculously long to complete destroyed my chances of ever getting with her, unless i run into her some years from now. But currently she probably thinks of me as a bitter douche who ditched her as some sort of revenge, even though i didnt really ever say anything insulting to her. I think at some point back then she wanted me, but height and LL held me back.
Im sure i will see her eventually, but i have no idea how she will react. I probably post it here because that will probably work as some sort of conclusion for me.
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Thank you man, thats exactly it, and in my mind the only thing i have to do to "win" is to become similarly popular to her (which will be worth more since im a guy) and gain muscle and dress good. Because those things where the only advantages she had over me. Im sure she will feel bad and maybe regret as well if she sees me like that.
I think LL taking so ridiculously long to complete destroyed my chances of ever getting with her, unless i run into her some years from now. But currently she probably thinks of me as a bitter douche who ditched her as some sort of revenge, even though i didnt really ever say anything insulting to her. I think at some point back then she wanted me, but height and LL held me back.
Im sure i will see her eventually, but i have no idea how she will react. I probably post it here because that will probably work as some sort of conclusion for me.
I like how you think her cuca dont smell like rotten fish just like every other girl out there, or that she looks like a male without make up on. You are putting her on a pedistal when she is NO different than other girls AT ALL.
Well nothing i say will change your mind you will find out yourself if you get this Queen of glory...shm
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that sounds really nasty when you say it like that slim tim LOL :) :)
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I like how you think her cuca dont smell like rotten fish just like every other girl out there, or that she looks like a male without make up on. You are putting her on a pedistal when she is NO different than other girls AT ALL.
Well nothing i say will change your mind you will find out yourself if you get this Queen of glory...shm
I dont really get your point here, im not actually trying to get her, i just want it to be obvious to her that she made a mistake, then if i run into her il see how her attitude is and after that i can finish this.
Im sure its much easier for her to get over the fact that i ditcher her now when it seems like i am doing nothing with my life on social media, while she is studying abroads.. while for me its very hard to think about something else when i cant really do anything right now.
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i cant really do anything right now.
You are consolidating now, this alone, is quite a feat!
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So in my lonely days during the consolidation period i have had way to much time to think about things, mostly depressing things to be honest, all my friends and other young people are out and having fun while i will spend majority of this summer in my house in isolation. Fortunately there have been a lot of rainy and gray days so far this summer.
Anyway one thing i came to realize that is a big deal in my life right now, is that no matter how much you like a girl or enjoy being with her, you should never accept the friendzone if you get there..
First of all she expects you to accept her terms while she refused your terms, and when you get down to it, regardless of what explanations or sugar coating they might say to make you want to be friends, she still thinks she is better than you, and too good for you. I personally would never want to hang out with someone who made it obvious that they think less of you.
I was debating wheter i was gonna get in touch with a girl i mentioned before who not only friendzoned me, but constantly made it very obvious that she thought she was "above" me. She got a bit humbled after i ditched her and she tried to get me back, and while i really wanted to see her in person with my new height, this thing simply takes way to long to get done so at this point i just hope i will run into her some day, just so i can put her down a notch.
So i guess id like to know if some of you guys still hang out as friends with girls who you liked but didnt want you? if you do, how does it feel? (im talking from a guys perspective but i realize that girls probably get friendzoned to once in a while)
Nope, fk them. I occasionally hang out with a girl who rejected me about five years ago, but not very often.
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what if someone will friendzone you not because the fact the you were short, but for the fact that you had LL?
I was rolling this question in my mind today, anyone has experience thing like that?
I've just told the guy that "we" plan to date about LL today, and frankly I didn't feel relief after that all I felt that I'm so exposed ..
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what if someone will friendzone you not because the fact the you were short, but for the fact that you had LL?
I would cringe because these are the same type of people that demand us to be tall in the first place, society is very messed up so there's gonna be people that do that but nobody has to know you did this to you, people deserve to be lied to (at least the superficial ones not the good ones).
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When I was at university 10 years back I was lucky enough to friendzone quiet a few. I am from India and at my height of 5.7 I was no.4 short guy of 14 guys and taller than all the 36 girls in my class( class of 50 ). All the taller guys were around 5.8 or 5.9 range and only one was 6 feet. Inspite of being short I was popular in my class due to my eccentric personality. Now after ten years I feel more short as the current generation in India is taller.
Now when it comes to friendzone I was physically attracted to them as were they but didn't only proceed openly but would have in private, as I used to feel to have higher status. By the time I got chance I was stuck with my girlfriend :). So the point is even though you are friendzoned I believe their must be some attraction from her towards you. Now with your increased height and confident personality approach her once again and try and make some aggressive move ;)(what ever feels comfortable to you). You might turn lucky if not atleast you will get rid of this guilty feeling of being in friendzone.
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I am from India and at my height of 5.7
Inspite of being short I was popular in my class due to my eccentric personality.
Average heights of Indian men and women are 5 ft 5 in (165 cm) and 5 ft (152 cm) respectively. This information is based on a 2006 study by National Institute of Nutrition (Indian Council of Medical Research).
166.3 cm (5 ft 5 1⁄2 in) for 20 year olds.
164.7 cm (5 ft 5 in) for 20-49 year olds
161.2 cm (5 ft 3 1⁄2 in) for 17+ rural
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height
its all in your head.
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Funny thing is somehow I missed participating in survey and nobody I new of in my 33 years of age. But height varies hugely in India between villages and cities. In village I might be 50 percentile but in city where I live I might be not even 15 percentile. This constant comparison when I go outside is killing me hence want to get LL done. Now 2015 and 10 years latter from whatever and where ever survey wiki got from, the current generation is really tall and I feel short for my height and just 4cm is enough for me feel normal
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2630164/table/T1/
I really doubt 5'7 is considered short in India.
Btw, generations don't grow instantly by 5 cm over the previous generation. It's usually 1 cm max, IF a secular trend exists. You can see on the table that men in Delphi (capital of India) grow -0.05 cm per decade. So the average height is actually decreasing.
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I can beyond any doubt say that the information provided is not credible. I never said a growth of 5 cm in between generation. But the growth chart is not linear. Probably after a certain height like in western countries it might increase by only 1cm. But if your initial height is short there is chance of increase by 5cm. For example all the friends I know are taller than their parents by at least 2 inches. My friends who is a professor 33 as me says all his students are taller than him and he has to be careful with them in a funny way and he is 5.8. My mom and dad are 5.3 both, my elder sister is 5.5 and me 5.7. Can you believe a lot of my friends and others asked me if my sister is taller than me :(. My sister herself commented few times that I am short, not that she is mean but she is concerned and wanted more of me. Girls generally look taller than their height. The current generation girls are taller I almost certainly see quiet a few girls daily taller than me without heels and they look perfectly normal not like what people on this forum say as weird or something . This really hurts my ego even though I am happily married to my lovely wife who is 5.2
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2630164/table/T1/
I really doubt 5'7 is considered short in India.
Btw, generations don't grow instantly by 5 cm over the previous generation. It's usually 1 cm max, IF a secular trend exists. You can see on the table that men in Delphi (capital of India) grow -0.05 cm per decade. So the average height is actually decreasing.
5'7 is objectively short. So ofcourse he is gonna be short and recieve short treatment.
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5'7 is objectively short. So ofcourse he is gonna be short and recieve short treatment.
Derp. You know height differs from population to population, right? 178 may be short in Netherlands, but it's tall in asian countries. I don't have to be saying that.
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Derp. You know height differs from population to population, right? 178 may be short in Netherlands, but it's tall in asian countries. I don't have to be saying that.
nopp. 5'7 is short no matter where you are. 5'9 is the cutoff.
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The amount of sheer stupidity thrown at me makes me want to abandon this place.
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The amount of sheer stupidity thrown at me makes me want to abandon this place.
Lol I know, right?
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Lol I know, right?
You are one of the few intelligent voices here. The search for intelligence continues..
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The amount of sheer stupidity thrown at me makes me want to abandon this place.
Don't worry. Some of them are on drugs or have mental issues. I just treat it with a pinch of salt.
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And the only reason i didnt dress impressively and work on my physique was because of my lack of height.
That sounds like an excuse, and if you posted that on any non-LL forum everyone would say it as well. Congrats on your new height, now you have no excuses :)
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Derp. You know height differs from population to population, right? 178 may be short in Netherlands, but it's tall in asian countries. I don't have to be saying that.
Asian is a minority where I live but their heights are about 5'8" max 5'10" this is the average of Chinese people I see on Chinese restaurants.
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Asian is a minority where I live but their heights are about 5'8" max 5'10" this is the average of Chinese people I see on Chinese restaurants.
Where do you live? Yes you're right, most are about that height. there are a few 5'11 and 6' also. maybe 6'1 is getting common too. In Singapore.
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Where do you live? Yes you're right, most are about that height. there are a few 5'11 and 6' also. maybe 6'1 is getting common too. In Singapore.
the average Singaporean height is like 5'7 for the 18-25 range.
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Where do you live? Yes you're right, most are about that height. there are a few 5'11 and 6' also. maybe 6'1 is getting common too. In Singapore.
I live in P.R. which is in the Caribbean. Because of the low encounter rate you will rarely see an Asian below average. An another oddity in here is many people who remove an inch from their height.
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the average Singaporean height is like 5'7 for the 18-25 range.
yes dude, that's the average, based on what I gather even from dating apps (took like 50 guys and averaged.. the height? 172 cm. that's constant for 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 year olds
Trouble is..... there are so many Singaporean who are 178cm it has become so damn common! 175 cm as well. 180 cm is also getting common, though not as common as 178. 183 cm +, yeah you can see them if you walk a few minutes in the university.
me and my friend's theory? the shorties are pulling the average down. ie, you get a lot of 175- 183 guys nowadays, but there are many 160-170 cm guys. And I think its true.
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that is why we have percentiles.
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You are one of the few intelligent voices here. The search for intelligence continues..
perhaps there is no intelligence here, just relative stupidity. perhaps in the land of the blind the 1 eyed man is king. :)
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The friendzone doesn't exist, it's just the individual not willing to have sex with the other person unless if something changes.
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The friendzone doesn't exist, it's just the individual not willing to have sex with the other person unless if something changes.
Yep, that is essentially just what the friendzone is; I prefer the term unrequited love.
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step 1: cry
step 2: get LL surgery
step 3: place every single girl in the friend zone
step 4: evil laugh :)
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The friendzone doesn't exist, it's just the individual not willing to have sex with the other person unless if something changes.
There doesn't have to be sex involved to get friendzoned it simply happens when you confess your love and they tell you that we can only be friends and you happen to be dumb enough to submit to her slavery.
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There doesn't have to be sex involved to get friendzoned it simply happens when you confess your love and they tell you that we can only be friends and you happen to be dumb enough to submit to her slavery.
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what if you do not love her?
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what if you do not love her?
I can't imagine a man in that position, the chances are so low that if they friendzone them then it means that woman must have been really ugly or being a drug addict.
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I can't imagine a man in that position, the chances are so low that if they friendzone them then it means that woman must have been really ugly or being a drug addict.
that's nonsense. I know many girls who are pretty and we don't love each other. well maybe she loves me abit. we just treat each other as good friends with some intimate moments (for some of them)
they are pretty but the thing is that firstly I am attached and secondly I don't want extra emotional baggage. so I friend-zoned them and they friend-zoned me...?
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that's nonsense. I know many girls who are pretty and we don't love each other. well maybe she loves me abit. we just treat each other as good friends with some intimate moments (for some of them)
they are pretty but the thing is that firstly I am attached and secondly I don't want extra emotional baggage. so I friend-zoned them and they friend-zoned me...?
There is no mutal friend-zoning.
Emotional baggage is not worse than being lonely and having no purpose.
At least you know some girls though, where I live people are not as social so even having them in Facebook means you will never get a message unless you send one first, you might be ignored either way.
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step 1: cry
step 2: get LL surgery
step 3: place every single girl in the friend zone
step 4: evil laugh :)
lol
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There is no mutal friend-zoning.
Emotional baggage is not worse than being lonely and having no purpose.
At least you know some girls though, where I live people are not as social so even having them in Facebook means you will never get a message unless you send one first, you might be ignored either way.
so its not called friend-zone but platonic ffriendship then
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so its not called friend-zone but platonic ffriendship then
Yes that's a good way to put it.
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I can't imagine a man in that position, the chances are so low that if they friendzone them then it means that woman must have been really ugly or being a drug addict.
This I do not agree. I had friendzoned few girls in my college days. They used to write assignments for me, carry my books for me etc..man those were the days :D. Those girls were pretty and I was physically attracted to them and so were they, but only that I wanted a more better looking girl. Latter I got stuck with my girlfriend who was better looking than them. I always fancied those girls and even today I feel my college life was limited to one girl was a shame.
But I believe there is no mutual friendzone, those girls I refused never talked to me nicely latter (I was still trying my chances secretly from my girlfriend ;D). All the girls latter got their own boyfrinds
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All the girls latter got their own boyfrinds
Women can summon men with the snapping of a finger so it's no surprise they eventually found boyfriends.
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There's a simple thing : u want something go get it, u don't want it don't go for it, its even more successful when u are mysterious
Exactly. Which is why i firmly believe all men should delete all forms of social media (maybe an exception like snapchat ;) ). Do guys honestly think they are more attractive showing they have nothing better to do than to post some random bull post on what they did that day on social media? You have your entire life on there like a fixed rubix cube and it makes it very god damn boring for the girl. You should always be to busy to waste even a second on trying to get others opinions on your specific life event if you do you do that in real life. Not through the internet. Social media is the least social thing you can do.