Limb Lengthening Forum
Community Hangout => Off Topic => Topic started by: 6feet2isTooShort on March 20, 2017, 11:44:57 PM
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Hi there,
I have finally gathered the courage and money to go along with the procedure, but I need to know how much I can aim for. 6'4'' would be great, but 6'5'' would be godly for me. I don't want to push it though.
Anyone had experience lengthening at these heights?
Thank you
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I was waiting for another one of these posts.
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I was waiting for another one of these posts.
Sorry? Could you elaborate please?
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I'm no expert, but I think You could gain 3 inches on femurs and get to 6,5". However, 2 inches would probably be the safe limit so I think its better to do that considering your already at a really tall height.
May I ask what makes you want to go through this surgery at 6'2"? Your at a good height already and adding 2-3 may not make much of a difference .
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I'm no expert, but I think You could gain 3 inches on femurs and get to 6,5". However, 2 inches would probably be the safe limit so I think its better to do that considering your already at a really tall height.
I can do with 2 inches. 6'4'' is good as well, there are always insoles and boots to bring me to 6'6''.
May I ask what makes you want to go through this surgery at 6'2"? Your at a good height already and adding 2-3 may not make much of a difference .
1. This height is nothing special in Scandinavia, only little above average, which is not enough for hotter chicks
2. Hot girls want top 5% guys, not top 30%.
3. Average height is rising, since short guys are doing LL now and new generation of guys are taller due to nutrition and pickier females.
4. I have a plan to max out all of my stats including height.
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Well you can't please everyone in life and you'll never be perfect. I doubt girls over there care that much about height that they want someone who's 6'5". At 6'2" your at the 82.2 percentile for the Netherlands meaning your taller than or as tall as 82.2 percent of males and taller than 99.63 percent of females ( yes I used a height percentile calculator).
Don't fall into the trap of believing you need to be the tallest or the best at everything to be good enough for people. After all you can only marry one girl and if a girl says your too short at 6'2" then they're probably crazy.
Have you properly measured yourself? Are you actually 6'2" Or are you guessing based on estimates of others?
Have you considered doing therapy or talking to someone about this like a psychologist? Give therapy a try and see how it goes.
Anyways if you really think this surgery will help you in life and youve done your research then I can't stop you. Do whatever you want I guess.
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I can do with 2 inches. 6'4'' is good as well, there are always insoles and boots to bring me to 6'6''.
1. This height is nothing special in Scandinavia, only little above average, which is not enough for hotter chicks
2. Hot girls want top 5% guys, not top 30%.
3. Average height is rising, since short guys are doing LL now and new generation of guys are taller due to nutrition and pickier females.
4. I have a plan to max out all of my stats including height.
1. You are 3 inches above every Scandinavian country's average. There is no place in the world where 6'2 is considered short, even among the Dutch.
2. For every 1 woman who thinks 6'2 is too short, there's 1,000 who think that 1 woman is crazy. If you can't stand the thought that there's a woman out there somewhere who decides you don't fit her height fetish criteria, then talking to a therapist or something is a lot more safe and affordable than CLL.
3. The amount of people who do CLL around the world is not even a fraction of a percent of the male population in any country. It's a non-factor. Average height has peaked in developed Western countries.
4. Leg lengthening will noticeably diminish your athletic abilities when it comes to running and making swift movements, so professional sports will no longer be in the cards if you're interested in that. And as for gaining strength, your lengthened limbs will lose some strength building potential. The only stat you're gaining is height - every other physical stat will be reduced.
5. Is going from 6'2 - 6'5 really worth the possibility of - nerve damage causing constant numbness or tingling in the affected area, bone pain during cold weather or rain, exertional compartment syndrome that prevents you from running more than a few seconds, among other things?
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Why are you even trying to explain guys lol
Shame ballsack transplant isn't a thing.
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Why are you even trying to explain guys lol
Shame ballsack transplant isn't a thing.
I'm trying to be helpful even though there's a good chance this guy is just trolling.
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/fit/ says 6'0'' in 2017 is pretty much manlet status
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My initial impressions and still are that this post is a troll. End of story.
/fit/ says 6'0'' in 2017 is pretty much manlet status
There's no room for that nasty reddit virus here, sorry. They are a bunch of whinny brain dead wankers. You can keep that contagious bullshi* out from here.
Thank you
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/fit/ says 6'0'' in 2017 is pretty much manlet status
You mean on Reddit? Lots of people troll there and don't know what there talking about. People think 6 feet is short but in real life it's taller than people think. It's sad if you actually believe that kind of stuff people say on the internet.
Since your bringing Reddit in to this topic are you by any chance this guy who posted on r/short recently:
https://www.reddit.com/r/short/comments/60jck6/im_62_but_still_considering_leg_lengthening/
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https://www.reddit.com/r/short/comments/60k0su/first_time_i_realized_that_62_is_not_tall/
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>Reddit
>Serious discussion
Pick one.
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My initial impressions and still are that this post is a troll. End of story.
There's no room for that nasty reddit virus here, sorry. They are a bunch of whinny brain dead wankers. You can keep that contagious bullshi* out from here.
Thank you
I'm not talking about reddit, go read /fit/ if you want to be red pillet on manlet status in 2017.
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I wonder what you think about guys that are around 5'4 for example
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I'm not talking about reddit, go read /fit/ if you want to be red pillet on manlet status in 2017.
You've been exposed. Go troll Reddit some more. This is a serious forum so leave.
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You've been exposed. Go troll Reddit some more. This is a serious forum so leave.
I never said anything about reddit. Learn to read please.
I wonder what you think about guys that are around 5'4 for example
I don't think about them.
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I never said anything about reddit. Learn to read please.
Did you see my other post with the links from Reddit? There are so many similarities between those Reddit posts and your posts here. Stop trying to hide it.
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look at his username guys he can't be serious
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After 6.2 ft height becomes a drawback and no way a benefit.
Also, no normal woman would prefer a 6.4 compared to a 6.2 man, even in scandinavia.
Furthermore, so tall guys have skinny bodies and by doing LL at this heoght you'll have even skinnier legs and you'll look ridiculous.
Finally, no respectable doctor would do LL to a so tall man. Is like doing liposuction to a 40kg woman.
So if you are not a troll you better go to a psychologist because it is the only doctor you really need.
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Did you see my other post with the links from Reddit? There are so many similarities between those Reddit posts and your posts here. Stop trying to hide it.
damn he is the same person from reddit lol. and to op, if you are serious you probably have a ty personality or no aesthetics im just being honest. im almost 100% sure no woman told you "your too short for me." at 6'2 you can easily go out w/ cute tall 5'9 girls and still not get height mogged by them in heels. Hell, I'm a little over 5'2 and had my fair share of hot girls. There's literally no excuse.
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After 6.2 ft height becomes a drawback and no way a benefit.
Also, no normal woman would prefer a 6.4 compared to a 6.2 man, even in scandinavia.
Furthermore, so tall guys have skinny bodies and by doing LL at this heoght you'll have even skinnier legs and you'll look ridiculous.
Finally, no respectable doctor would do LL to a so tall man. Is like doing liposuction to a 40kg woman.
So if you are not a troll you better go to a psychologist because it is the only doctor you really need.
Wow. Even body builder agrees with us.
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I wish I were 6 2", dont destroy your legs.
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Absolutely foolish go see a therapist.
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Xd, I cant grow 6 inches, I guess I am f"'"""".
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Lol 😂 your gonna use memes to prove your points?
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Wow, guys. You are really saying I can't max out anymore?
Oh well, I will just stuff my socks and be 6'4'' with shoes. I guess that is OK!
I really need to figure out how to max out in other ways. Any ideas?
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Wow, guys. You are really saying I can't max out anymore?
Oh well, I will just stuff my socks and be 6'4'' with shoes. I guess that is OK!
I really need to figure out how to max out in other ways. Any ideas?
Max out your mental health first by going to a psychiatrist.
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Lol wtf max out are you in a video game. There people here who suffer from being shorter than girls and your at a height were you wont ever worry about it. Even in your country that is taller than most your above avarage. You wont ever be perfect anyway there will always be a flaw.
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Max out your mental health first by going to a psychiatrist.
To be honest, I'm already on that. I'm visiting my shrink on a monthly basis and taking Escilatopram for my depression.
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Utterly pointless getting surgery like this at 6-2. This surgery is not only the most brutal cosmetic surgery you can do it's one of the most painful surgerys full stop.
At 6-2 if you struggle to get women going to 6-4 will not make th slightestdifference. If you are not getting women it's highly likely to be som thing else it could be you are just not particularly attractive looks wise (good looking and tall are not the same thing even if height usually trumps looks anyway). You may lack good social skills which makes attracting women hard, tall guys usually just get stuff for simply being tall however if you get sussed and people realise 'this guy's got nothing going for him but his height' then the majority will not go with you.
It's easy to blame height on lack of success elsewhere as it's like you have no control over it so you blame it as it can't be fixed, it's easy to say 'I can't get women because I'm 'x' height' than to just say 'I can't get women because I have poor social skills and I'm not that attractive'
Good example is in The gym you repeatedly here tall skinny guys whining 'I can't gain muscle because I'm tall' they never say 'I can't gain muscle because I train like a sissy and eat like a catwalk model, I also drink every weekend and undo all my gym work through the week' or 'I'm just not a naturally physically strong guy' or 'I'm ectomorphic body type il never be mr olympia' they blame it on their height and pretend in it heir head that they'd be huge if they were shorter.
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I never said I can't get women. I can.
I just want the top 5% women.
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I never said I can't get women. I can.
I just want the top 5% women.
If your height can't give you this top 5% of women, then clearly your problem is something else.
And of course you have other problems if you want to become taller than 6.2. After all, becoming 6.4 will make you less attractive to women than 6.2 because this height is the border between being tall and being unattractively tall.
So dude, continue taking your pills and try to find something else to change in your appearance because your height can't be better. By doing LL you'll become less attractive.
If you want to change something to become really attractive, try to work out and have muscles because most people at your height, especially Scandinavians, are too skinny and look like boys with overlengthened bodies.
So get back to reality and try something to truly improve your body because you have a height that LL will only make you worse. You can't chase the top 5% of women, even if you are very good looking (which I doubt because you would have any woman you wanted with good looks at your height) because you are mentally unstable and with great insecurities but you can still find a woman if you try hard and get rid of your complexes.
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I never said I can't get women. I can.
I just want the top 5% women.
And you think being 6 4 would be more important than having alot of money? I dont think they would choose the 6 4 brooke guy over a 5 10 rich guy who can buy them what they want.
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I never said I can't get women. I can.
I just want the top 5% women.
Honestly, 6'2 is good enough even for the top 5% women. It's like a woman with 36DD bust saying: "I need breast enlargement to get the top 2% men or I need to lose weight even though I'm 45 kg." Improve other areas like personality which includes sense of humor and confidence, work out build more muscle if you haven't got, improve your health by taking a better diet, sleeping better and you'll look better overall (you'll have a more glowing fresher face), take care of your personal hygiene. For height increase, simply wear insoles or elevator shoes (they come even in 2-4 inch height gain) if you can't be satisfied being 6'2 by all means, you'll know what difference it would make if you go through the surgery.
Oh yea and almost forgot, top 5% women would also look at your status (i.e., whether you have a respectable career and how established you are) and dress well too if you already don't. I have nothing more to say.... good luck.
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I really cant understand why the hell are people still trying to explain something here.
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I really cant understand why the hell are people still trying to explain something here.
Yup, this troll is so obvious it hurts.
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If you read my diary, you'd know that I'm currently banging 9s and 10s at 5'8"-5'9". And girls have told me bluntly that my face is only a 7 on a scale of 1-10. And my body right now is 25 BMI (overweight), and by my judgment a 5 at most. I don't even have 2-pack abs, just one singular fat belly as an stomach. The fat belly is actually because of LL, because it made sit and not work out for months. Trust me, it's not your height that's the problem; it's something else.
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If your height can't give you this top 5% of women, then clearly your problem is something else.
And of course you have other problems if you want to become taller than 6.2. After all, becoming 6.4 will make you less attractive to women than 6.2 because this height is the border between being tall and being unattractively tall.
So dude, continue taking your pills and try to find something else to change in your appearance because your height can't be better. By doing LL you'll become less attractive.
If you want to change something to become really attractive, try to work out and have muscles because most people at your height, especially Scandinavians, are too skinny and look like boys with overlengthened bodies.
So get back to reality and try something to truly improve your body because you have a height that LL will only make you worse. You can't chase the top 5% of women, even if you are very good looking (which I doubt because you would have any woman you wanted with good looks at your height) because you are mentally unstable and with great insecurities but you can still find a woman if you try hard and get rid of your complexes.
About the muscles - I am already very fit and been working out for a decade.
You can't chase the top 5% of women, even if you are very good looking (which I doubt because you would have any woman you wanted with good looks at your height)
Why can't I chase top 5% of women? I have no problems getting a girl that is average or slightly above average, they are simply not interesting to me. I was in such a relationship and it sucked. It's not like I am some loser virgin, I just want the top crop.
And you think being 6 4 would be more important than having alot of money? I dont think they would choose the 6 4 brooke guy over a 5 10 rich guy who can buy them what they want.
Where did I say I am broke? I earn quite a lot of money and obviously can afford LL.
If you read my diary, you'd know that I'm currently banging 9s and 10s at 5'8"-5'9".
Cool lie. Everyone online is banging 10s.
Let us look at the facts: 9s and 10s are:
- International supermodels
- Maybe, just MAYBE national supermodels
- Victoria Secret models
- Hollywood actresses (leading roles)
So you are saying that you, as a guy who is registered on an LL forum is actually banging women of this caliber.
I know it feels good for your ego, but let's be real. The best you are getting is alright 7s and maybe a rare 8. That is the BEST scenario.
Unless you are secretly James Franco, Tom Cruise or something.
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Cool lie. Everyone online is banging 10s.
I totally agree with you. The same way I agree that everyone online is 6'2 and is dating girls above average:
Why can't I chase top 5% of women? I have no problems getting a girl that is average or slightly above average, they are simply not interesting to me. I was in such a relationship and it sucked. It's not like I am some loser virgin, I just want the top crop.
Anyways, at your height I'd only do this to get more proportional but if you feel short go for it. I wouldn't get past 2 inches though.
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Doing it for me said in his diary that some were models were in pagents so that fits your criteria that you wrote. And you don't need to earn a lot to do this surgery. There is good and bad doctors at affordable prices if you save a year or two.
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Doing it for me said in his diary that some were models were in pagents so that fits your criteria that you wrote. And you don't need to earn a lot to do this surgery. There is good and bad doctors at affordable prices if you save a year or two.
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About the muscles - I am already very fit and been working out for a decade.
Why can't I chase top 5% of women? I have no problems getting a girl that is average or slightly above average, they are simply not interesting to me. I was in such a relationship and it sucked. It's not like I am some loser virgin, I just want the top crop.
Where did I say I am broke? I earn quite a lot of money and obviously can afford LL.
Cool lie. Everyone online is banging 10s.
Let us look at the facts: 9s and 10s are:
- International supermodels
- Maybe, just MAYBE national supermodels
- Victoria Secret models
- Hollywood actresses (leading roles)
So you are saying that you, as a guy who is registered on an LL forum is actually banging women of this caliber.
I know it feels good for your ego, but let's be real. The best you are getting is alright 7s and maybe a rare 8. That is the BEST scenario.
Unless you are secretly James Franco, Tom Cruise or something.
So if you are as you say and you don't have the quality of women you want, then you won't have it either at 6.4.
Your feet would look ridiculously long at this height and you will be very unstable to do heavy work out and buff your so tall body so generally you'll be less attractive than you are now.
So to sum up, if you do LL your chances to have the women you want would be reduced, not increased like in the majority of us here.
I would really like to see a diary from you though. It would be very interesting and also I would like to see what doctor would do LL to you to get him out of my list.
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I believe you are a troll but lets assume you are not.
So you say you make good money,have a good,fit body and you can get women.And you are 6'2 which is 188 CM.And you want to get taller because of %5 percentile woman.
I would say you are a narcissistic maniac.
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the most thought after guys:
Brad Pitt: 5'11
Justin Biber: 5'9
Leo DiCaprio: 5'11
Mel Gibson: 5'10
Richard Gear: 5'11
Jamie Dornan: 5'11
Daniel Craig: 5'11
Tom Cruise: 5'9
Ryan Gosling: 6'0
Any more questions?
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yes guys ,you all have to know 6 ft 2 just slightly above average nowadays
in western countries its just weak average
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International supermodels
Maybe, just MAYBE national supermodels
Victoria Secret models
Hollywood actresses (leading roles)
It's matter of opinion on whether you class these women in the 'top5%' I've seen these women and no disrespect to some of them you look at them and wonder how they got the job as there's women walking down the street I see I'd sooner go with than them. It's highly subjective what you class as top 5%! Angelina Jolie I'm sure is classed as that but I and s good number of guys I know just don't get it!
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Why are we even having a serious discussion on a -posting thread lol
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Why are we even having a serious discussion on a crap-posting thread lol
Because apperantly, some people in this site are stupid.
Got to admit that a few users suprised me by giving serious answers.. I thought better of them
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yes guys ,you all have to know 6 ft 2 just slightly above average nowadays
in western countries its just weak average
I hope you are kidding because 6.2 is way above average even in west, except maybe scandinavia where it is more than average but maybe not much (just about 1-2 inches).
So I hope you are trolling this 6.2ft something mentally unstable guy otherwise you should go to the same doctor too.
Helloworld, Cruise is at max 5.7 and Bieber less than 5.8.
Also, the best looking man in the world (not only stars but either everyday men) are most of the times 5.10-6.1 ft.
People like 6.3-6.4 look like tall skeletons with skinny bodies.
After all, Scandinavia never considered to have good looking men.
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I leave this forum for a few days and the first thing I see is a user named "6feet2istooShort". Seriously mods, just ban this troll and move on, this forum is about a serious topic and trolling spergtards should not be tolerated.
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Of course I'm just kidding,6 ft 2 is solid tall everywhere
and yes cruise and bieber are same height which is 5 ft 7.5
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Of course I'm just kidding,6 ft 2 is solid tall everywhere
and yes cruise and bieber are same height which is 5 ft 7.5
Why is it always someone's opinion you do not agree with automatically rendered troll?
By the way, I will just wear higher cuban heels for now with insoles. I can pull it off with my style and body and nobody will accuse me of overcompensating with cuban heels, because:
a) They are obvious (short men wear clunky boots with hidden height);
b) They look cool
c) They fit my extravagant style
I will also focus on approaching more women and flirting more, since I already have everything else.
Literally can't improve any further physically.
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Why is it always someone's opinion you do not agree with automatically rendered troll?
By the way, I will just wear higher cuban heels for now with insoles. I can pull it off with my style and body and nobody will accuse me of overcompensating with cuban heels, because:
a) They are obvious (short men wear clunky boots with hidden height);
b) They look cool
c) They fit my extravagant style
I will also focus on approaching more women and flirting more, since I already have everything else.
Literally can't improve any further physically.
who cares
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Why are you so angry? Dude, calm down! No need to release all this hate on the world!
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Why is it always someone's opinion you do not agree with automatically rendered troll?
By the way, I will just wear higher cuban heels for now with insoles. I can pull it off with my style and body and nobody will accuse me of overcompensating with cuban heels, because:
a) They are obvious (short men wear clunky boots with hidden height);
b) They look cool
c) They fit my extravagant style
I will also focus on approaching more women and flirting more, since I already have everything else.
Literally can't improve any further physically.
LMFAO
If you had everything else you wouldn't be here talking this much crap
You're deluded and by the sounds of it you've got tall guy syndrome, you've been told the sun shines out your arse all your life because of your height and you believed the hype.
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LMFAO
If you had everything else you wouldn't be here talking this much crap
Common rookie mistake - assuming guys who are great can't from time to time go to low tier communities. This is the internet, I can be wherever I want.
You're deluded and by the sounds of it you've got tall guy syndrome, you've been told the sun shines out your arse all your life because of your height and you believed the hype.
But doesn't it? Why are you all so eager to get limb lengthening then? You guys say height is #1 thing women look for in a man. Your words, not mine.
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But doesn't it? Why are you all so eager to get limb lengthening then? You guys say height is #1 thing women look for in a man. Your words, not mine.
We've explained this so many times already and the thing is your at 6'2" considering this that's what's crazy. Your the one that's says height is number one.
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This guy is trolling you, I don´t really get why anybody takes him seriously :o
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I mean just look at his display picture, obvious troll.
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I mean just look at his display picture, obvious troll.
Ad hominem much?
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This guy is a troll and is obviously trying to make short men of this forum more depressed about their condition. I call for the moderators to IP ban him (I don't personally feel sad about his words though).
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This guy is a troll and is obviously trying to make short men of this forum more depressed about their condition. I call for the moderators to IP ban him (I don't personally feel sad about his words though).
Nice racism. How am I troll? Just because I have a different world view? You are no better than height discriminators, only you are discriminating me for my demeanour.
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Besides a troll a calling this site a low tier community.
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In the off-chance that this is not a troll or maybe someone else who is tall and have the same mentality as him is reading this, here's my response:
Cool lie. Everyone online is banging 10s.
Let us look at the facts: 9s and 10s are:
- International supermodels
- Maybe, just MAYBE national supermodels
- Victoria Secret models
- Hollywood actresses (leading roles)
So you are saying that you, as a guy who is registered on an LL forum is actually banging women of this caliber.
I know it feels good for your ego, but let's be real. The best you are getting is alright 7s and maybe a rare 8. That is the BEST scenario.
Unless you are secretly James Franco, Tom Cruise or something.
No, I'm not banging any of those occupations, because hot girls aren't always models/actresses. But I have dated models before. Some of the girls I sleep with are better looking than Alexis Ren. Obviously beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But the girls I sleep with are the ones where every guy and girl would turn their heads and check them out as they walk by. They're the ones who get hundreds/thousands of likes on Instagram when they post a selfie. They're the ones who would just sit around for a few minutes and some guy would come up to them and hit on her. And random girls would be complimenting her on how pretty she looks every time I've been out with her.
I'm not a movie star, but I am wealthier than most actors. To gain some perspective, the people in my wealth bracket are the ones who write the checks that pay the actors. And I'm pretty sure that my success has a lot to do with why I'm so attractive to women. And if you bother reading my diary, you'd know that the success of my online dating life comes from me posting luxurious/adventurous lifestyle photos. To get an idea of what I'm talking about, this video shows you what my life is like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOHDkIxyu2A Except I drive much better cars than a Gallardo, have multitudes more money than this guy, and date girls with a prettier face than Alexis Ren (the girl in the video). And guess what? That guy in the video is also shorter than 6'2".
But the point is that I'm not taller than 5'9", and I still sleep with girls as hot as the ones you are trying to sleep with. Of course you don't want to believe me, because you don't want to believe that there is something wrong with you besides your height. So whatever evidence that anyone on here provides, your brain will reject it. And that kind of attitude is probably a part of why girls don't want to date you. In my mind, you're like a large-breast girl asking if you should get breast implants to get even larger breasts. Any guy sane of mind would think that you have self-esteem issues at the point. And having self-esteem issues is very unattractive to both genders.
And there's no reason for me to lie about my dating life, because I have nothing to gain from lying. I'm just trying to give people a reality check when it comes to height. As a general rule, height is not super important as long as the girl is around the same height as you or shorter. And I'm not an idiot either. Girls do ask me about my height, so I know it's important. I'm just saying that you don't need to be 6'5" to bang 9s and 10s, especially when there are many guys shorter than 6' who are doing just that. Occasionally, there are girls who are shorter than you who want someone taller. But I find those to be rare, especially if you're not trying to date superficial girls.
I'm not the only one who can pull in these types of women around my height. Here's someone who's 172 cm and dating the kind of caliber of woman you mentioned: http://www.pajiba.com/celebrities_are_better_than_you/the-dating-history-of-wilmer-valderrama-is-bananas.php (http://www.pajiba.com/celebrities_are_better_than_you/the-dating-history-of-wilmer-valderrama-is-bananas.php)
At the end of the day, I still suggest that you lie about your height on your online dating profile and say that you're 6'5". I'm willing to bet that you will not gain any better quality girls. Research has shown that girls prefer guys around 5'11", and 6'3"+ is too tall: (http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-07-11/IdealHeights3-01-01.png)
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But the girls I sleep with are the ones where every guy and girl would turn their heads and check them out as they walk by. They're the ones who get hundreds/thousands of likes on Instagram when they post a selfie. They're the ones who would just sit around for a few minutes and some guy would come up to them and hit on her.
To get an idea of what I'm talking about, this video shows you what my life is like: (video omitted) Except I drive much better cars than a Gallardo, have multitudes more money than this guy, and date girls with a prettier face than Alexis Ren (the girl in the video).
Why do you always have to mention (extensively and intensively) that you have trillions of dollars, quadrillions of 10/10s, and drive uber-Lamborghinis, in every post you make? Assuming that you are really living the life you depict, your claims do not provide any support to your posts (which, by the way, are usually quite intelligent) but rather make you look like a douche. Like you said before, it is obvious that those girls are with you because of your money (don't get me wrong, I think it is a totally legit way of getting girls), so your height or lack of height is irrelevant. And considering that for 99.99% of people becoming a super-millionaire is virtually impossible, you can not consider yourself a role model to follow.
I would apologize for being off-topic, but this troll thread was born derailed.
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I'm not a movie star, but I am wealthier than most actors. To gain some perspective, the people in my wealth bracket are the ones who write the checks that pay the actors.
Ok, so you have 10+ million and just pay for female attention. Case closed.
Except I drive much better cars than a Gallardo
Now you are pushing it. There aren't "much better" cars than Gallardo, only slightly better.
You should better tell us how you made all of that dosh. So those who are ok with affording female attention by paying them can do the same and don't die alone.
Of course you don't want to believe me, because you don't want to believe that there is something wrong with you besides your height.
There isn't. I'm not a millionaire, but I earn above average income. One of my biggest life goals is to become a millionaire though. But you aren't posting anything new when you say money attracts girls. Most of us here don't want to be loved for money to be milked though.
And that kind of attitude is probably a part of why girls don't want to date you.
Yeah, because I totally talk about these things with girls IRL, right?
And there's no reason for me to lie about my dating life, because I have nothing to gain from lying.
I believe you once you started saying how much money you have. Everyone loves money, it is a cheat code of life. This is why I desperately want to eventually start making 1mil a year. Maybe you could share how you achieved this. Were you already given something by your parents?
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Actually, I don't pay girls I date any money. Most of the girls I date have money themselves and prefer to pay for themselves. It's impossible to talk to you if you just keep making assumptions about me instead of actually listening to what I'm saying. If your intention is to attract girls, then LL will not yield you better results if you're already above average height. Instead I would take that money and six months of my time to go travel the world and enjoy life. That is way more attractive than simply being three inches taller. Girls online have responded very well to pictures of me doing charity work and doing adventurous lifestyle things. They don't respond well to pictures of exotic cars. Only teenage boys respond well to that crap. That's why I posted that YouTube video. Hot girls want that kind of life (if you ignore that Gallardo part). And you don't need a ton of money to have a life like that. That guy in the video only has a net worth of $1 million. And you could probably do all those things in the video for less than $10,000. Look, I'm simply trying to save you from making a big mistake. But if you're going to act this way toward me, then well, I have nothing more to say, since this is a massive waste of my time.
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That guy in the video only has a net worth of $1 million.
That guy in the video only has a net worth of $1 million.
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Please don't do humblebrag. Ok, I get it, you have 10 million, but for normal people getting 1 million is a BIG achievement and it puts you in the "rich" category pretty much everywhere. Again, don't dispute this, it will be humblebragging, pretending that 1 million is not a lot of money.
So please help me out here. I am in the same line of work, I would appreciate ANY advice.
So far I have earned maybe 250k$. I need 4x that to make my first million and 10x times that to be getting into the "fk you money" territory.
I understand the importance of money and lifestyle you write about. Yes, I want that. I am willing to do whatever it takes.
Please give advice.
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Doingitforme, LL helps you to become attractive in appearance.
Having money make you ideal for many women but it can't make you better looking. So it is something different.
And as Ozymandias said (and I mentioned in some other of my posts at your diary too) almost noone can become so rich like you so it is ridiculous to advice someone to not become taller to have better chances with girls but to become a millionaire!
It is completely nonsense and almost impossible.
So we are talking about looks here and a good character. These are that anyone should improve to become successful with the other gender. Money will give you success but it is much more difficult to have (at least millions like you) and after all, you'll still don't know if the girls come for you or your money. Most of the times it is the money they want of course.
So i would easily prefer to have less success with women but the ones that I get to like me a lot for my appearance and my charming character than having models who like my lifestyle and want to be a part of it (like Dan Bilzerian's case).
But yes I completely agree with you that LL won't help if you are above average and you could use this money for much more interesting things that will help you with women and generally will help you to have a better lifestyle.
Especially if you are 6.2 where every extra inch will make you less attractive!
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Having money make you ideal for many women but it can't make you better looking. So it is something different.
It can.
Money buys plastic surgery, great skin care, anti aging treatments, LL, good clothes, good cars, etc...
almost noone can become so rich like you so it is ridiculous to advice someone to not become taller to have better chances with girls but to become a millionaire!
Very false belief. Everyone can become rich if they want it.
Especially if you are 6.2 where every extra inch will make you less attractive!
I don't think it is true in my country, but ok.
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I completely understand and agree with you - for you, I truly think this surgery would be worth it even with all the risks and reduced athleticism but I feel you are being too conservative in your goal. I think you should aim to become 6'10" to be honest, 6'5" is considered below average now and anything less just isn't worth it, 6'10" is in that 'ideal zone' where it's tall but not too tall - a user on the old forum lengthened 9 inches so I think you would breeze through it - longer initial bone length you see. This generations average is now around 6'6" and even taller in some places, 6'8" in the Netherlands if I recall correctly. Have you seen those teens towering over people of their parents generation by over a foot? It's pretty common. So at 6'10" you'd be in the 'taller than average' range. 6'2" is the new 5'5" where girls just don't really give you any attention. Good luck and please tell us how it goes.
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Doingitforme, LL helps you to become attractive in appearance.
Having money make you ideal for many women but it can't make you better looking. So it is something different.
And as Ozymandias said (and I mentioned in some other of my posts at your diary too) almost noone can become so rich like you so it is ridiculous to advice someone to not become taller to have better chances with girls but to become a millionaire!
It is completely nonsense and almost impossible.
Not really impossible. 6feet2isTooShort said he already saved $250k. So it sounds like he, too, is on the path to becoming a millionaire. If you invest in low-fee index funds, you can double your money in 5-10 years. I came from a poor family and have no greater advantage than the average person in America. All I needed to make my fortune was a computer and an internet connection.
So we are talking about looks here and a good character. These are that anyone should improve to become successful with the other gender. Money will give you success but it is much more difficult to have (at least millions like you) and after all, you'll still don't know if the girls come for you or your money. Most of the times it is the money they want of course.
So i would easily prefer to have less success with women but the ones that I get to like me a lot for my appearance and my charming character than having models who like my lifestyle and want to be a part of it (like Dan Bilzerian's case).
Yes, we already established that we have differing opinions on what paths to take to attract women. I already know if the girl is coming for me and not my money when the girls I date are financially independent themselves. Successful, attractive girls are attracted to successful men. For example, the girl I slept with earlier this month comes from a family wealthier than me. And she's an only child who will inherit it all.
I'm also saying that you don't need millions to get girls. I may have millions of dollars, but I don't spend it. It's sitting in stocks and real estate. As the saying goes, you don't end up a millionaire by spending money instead of saving it. I spend only tens of thousands of dollars per year despite making millions per year. LL is the most I've ever spent on something. You might think it's the cars and houses I own, but those are assets that retain its value and sometimes even rise in value. There's no resell value for LL, so you lose $100k right off the bat. That's why I think it's a bad investment, especially if money is tight. It doesn't cost much to live the lifestyle that I do or that guy in the video does. Everything that he did in that video could be done for less than $1,000. Every lifestyle picture in my online dating profile could be made with less than $1,000. You don't have to offer that lifestyle to the girls you date. Most are too busy at work/college to even do those things with you. You just have to look like a interesting person. There's a reason why girls talk to me for hours on end. I have a ton of interesting stories to tell. And I only have these stories because I travel the world and do adventurous things.
I actually have the opposite problem than you. I find it impossible for me to be super attractive, because I only have a 7 face. So at most, I'd be a 7 in terms of looks even if I were 5'11". Where as if I were broke today, I could probably make another million dollars within a year or two if you gave me a computer and an internet connection. So that's why we're butting heads. We each think the other way of attraction is impossible to do. Like you probably think getting six pack abs is really easy to do. Whereas, I find it really hard to do. It's pretty interesting.
But yes I completely agree with you that LL won't help if you are above average and you could use this money for much more interesting things that will help you with women and generally will help you to have a better lifestyle.
Especially if you are 6.2 where every extra inch will make you less attractive!
That's probably the most important part of what I said, and I'm glad that you agreed. Have an interesting life, and the girls will be attracted to it.
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Assuming this guy isn't just trolling, this thread is kind of fascinating. I mean, the "taller is better" mentality among men is so similar to the "thinner is better" mentality among women. Being 6'2" and wanting LL I can actually believe as a lot of tall men do feel like this, but it is still in very much the same territory as a 40 kilo woman wanting to lose more weight. You will not look better at 6'5" to anything but a minority of women who fetishise height and to most you will actually look worse. 6'2"-6'3" is generally seen as the highest ideal height. Please don't get LL!
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P.S. I think the fact that at 6'2" you have a problem with your height (!) speaks more volumes about your problems with women than anything else. Seriously, low self-esteem is unattractive to pretty much everyone, men and women alike.
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I don't have low self esteem. I know I'm a great guy, but you can always be better. Maxing out life is where it's at. Get laid & Get paid!
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If you want to break your legs at 6'2" to grow taller you have body image issues period.
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, if you want it at any height you have body image issues. But there is no excuse at 6'2".
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Plus, wtf is this about being "better"? If you want to be at a socially desired height, 6'2" is pretty much it in the first place. But your self-esteem should come from the inside, not what society thinks about you, anyway. If you are so hung up on the opinions of others that you think you need LL, can you legitimately say, "I have high self-esteem"?
In my view DoingItForMe hit the nail on the head in his diary when he said he wished he had never done LL. Even though I want LL I get exactly what he means. It's better to learn to accept your body as it is in any situation. Better for your happiness and self-respect- especially in your situation, where LL won't even improve your life, and might even just make it harder (!)
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If you want to break your legs at 6'2" to grow taller you have body image issues period.
In video games I always wanted to raise all of my skills to max cap.
Life is no different. Don't mistake ambitions for body issues.
But fine, you convinced me guys. 6'2'' is a great height and after all I can always wear insoles and go to 6'4''. So I'm fine with my height.
Now money is another issue. I NEED to be making 1 million a year ASAP! Currently I make only about 60-70k$ which is chump change. I absolutely need this and the mandatory Lambo in my Villa garage. Then I will be truly "maxed out" and there will be nothing stopping me.
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Plus, wtf is this about being "better"? If you want to be at a socially desired height, 6'2" is pretty much it in the first place. But your self-esteem should come from the inside, not what society thinks about you, anyway. If you are so hung up on the opinions of others that you think you need LL, can you legitimately say, "I have high self-esteem"?
In my view DoingItForMe hit the nail on the head in his diary when he said he wished he had never done LL. Even though I want LL I get exactly what he means. It's better to learn to accept your body as it is in any situation. Better for your happiness and self-respect- especially in your situation, where LL won't even improve your life, and might even just make it harder (!)
There is no reason to accept something that you don't like, unless this something is good and only in your mind is something that need to be changed.
For instance, a skinny guy who doesn't like himself has every right to work out very hard to change his appearance.
The same with an obese woman etc.
So, the vast majority of us here who don't like our heights is less than average height so we have every right to change it if we don't like it because it is not something on our minds but a real drawback that makes our lives worse in much aspects.
But a 6.2 ft dude who thinks his height is a problem yes, he has body image issues that can't be solved via LL but with a psychologist.
So I can't agree that all here who want to do LL have psychological issues but only a minority who is above average height and is desperate for more.
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Assuming this guy isn't just trolling, this thread is kind of fascinating. I mean, the "taller is better" mentality among men is so similar to the "thinner is better" mentality among women. Being 6'2" and wanting LL I can actually believe as a lot of tall men do feel like this, but it is still in very much the same territory as a 40 kilo woman wanting to lose more weight. You will not look better at 6'5" to anything but a minority of women who fetishise height and to most you will actually look worse. 6'2"-6'3" is generally seen as the highest ideal height. Please don't get LL!
In pop culture, there is a lot of talk about a "short guy's syndrome" that describes shorter men overcompensating and trying overly hard to be powerful, successful and confident because they are insecure. Regardless if this description is accurate or even fair, we can ask if there is something like a "tall guy's syndrome" that (not all but) a good number of tall men show. Is there something like this, a common trait among tall men? If there is one, I would say that tall guy's syndrome is extreme narcissism. Men who think they are the most handsome, most attractive men on the planet and who honestly can't believe that not every woman in the world would want them and say how they get off to degrading other men and also women. Granted, this is not an universal trait, but I've seen a good number of posters on Reddit (mostly on TheRedPill) who said they won the genetic lottery, had great looks, often claimed to be 6'2'', 6'3'' or 6'4'', had high income, were in top shape, and still hated women for sometimes rejecting them. I think some of them were hurt in the past, such as by being divorced by a woman. Their response to it is a narcissistic personality disorder.
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I agree with you, IwannaBeTaller. I think this is in the popular consciousness as well but it isn't talked about much- but I have heard other people say it before, women included.
Bodybuilder, the truth is that when it comes to being happy, it isn't something you "earn" when you arrive at the promised land of being tall/rich/successful or whatever, and you have to learn to be happy with what you've got first. If you are unhappy and short you will not end up happy when you are taller. There are a lot of people here who think like that and I think it's very unhealthy. This is precisely tying your self-esteem down to your body image. Which is what the narcissistic guys IwannaBeTaller was talking about do, too.
But you are right that being shorter than average isn't great and I also consider that a fat woman or a short man is justified in disliking this aspect of their appearance when society does discriminate against them (the height pay gap is more or less equal to the gender pay gap, and fat women also for example are paid a similar amount less than thin women).
6foot2, it does sound to me more and more like you are compensating, but whatever.
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6foot2, it does sound to me more and more like you are compensating, but whatever.
What is wrong with compensating?
Bums and lowlives are the only ones not "compensating".
If I want to earn money I'm compensating for lack of money.
If I want to be a millionaire I'm compensating for not being a millionaire.
If I want to get muscles, I'm compensating for having an average body.
Why is compensation a bad thing?
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I don't have low self esteem. I know I'm a great guy, but you can always be better. Maxing out life is where it's at. Get laid & Get paid!
You stated yourself you are suffering from mental health. Low self esteem is usual with depression, as is neurotic behavior.
To be honest, I'm already on that. I'm visiting my shrink on a monthly basis and taking Escilatopram for my depression.
After checking your Reddit profile that was linked earlier in this thread, you are the moderator of r/SmallPenisShaming - are you sure you don't have issues with self esteem?
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You stated yourself you are suffering from mental health. Low self esteem is usual with depression, as is neurotic behavior.
Yes, but I am taking drugs now and don't have low self esteem and depression anymore. Escilatopram is doing wonders.
After checking your Reddit profile that was linked earlier in this thread, you are the moderator of r/SmallPenisShaming - are you sure you don't have issues with self esteem?
Cool doxxing bro. No, that is my kink. Shaming beta males and so on. I get kicks out of that. My penis is average according to statistics. I'm jelqing to make it longer though, but I don't qualify as a small penis guy. Just a fetish thing.
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Cool doxxing bro. No, that is my kink. Shaming beta males and so on. I get kicks out of that. My penis is average according to statistics. I'm jelqing to make it longer though, but I don't qualify as a small penis guy. Just a fetish thing.
who cares
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And if you bother reading my diary, you'd know that the success of my online dating life comes from me posting luxurious/adventurous lifestyle photos. (http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/inlineimage/2014-07-11/IdealHeights3-01-01.png)
stopped reading at this point. seriously, your posting luxurious pics on dating site of course ur gonna pull a 8-9/10 hot gold digger chick. They'd bang u if u were 4'11 as long as u got steve jobs money. and the jump from 5'11 and 6'0 isnt noticeable
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stopped reading at this point. seriously, your posting luxurious pics on dating site of course ur gonna pull a 8-9/10 hot gold digger chick. They'd bang u if u were 4'11 as long as u got steve jobs money. and the jump from 5'11 and 6'0 isnt noticeable
I don't date gold diggers. The girls I date pay for themselves.
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I don't date gold diggers. The girls I date pay for themselves.
Do you think that these girls would have dated you if you weren't so rich?
If not, why are these girls less shallow than girls who wouldn't date a guy who is lets say less than 5.11 ?
Imo both girls are shallow but I can understand that many women can't be attracted to short, even average height, men sometimes. I can't be attracted to obese women too most of the times.
But a woman that don't like a man if he is not rich? This is the most shallow category imo.
So I would really prefer to have more women by becoming taller (and more attractive as a result) than by becoming rich and be the same as I am in my appearance.
After all, doing LL is much easier than becoming millionaire and heighr stays forever while with money you may always bankrupt and lose everything. :P
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Do you think that these girls would have dated you if you weren't so rich?
If not, why are these girls less shallow than girls who wouldn't date a guy who is lets say less than 5.11 ?
Imo both girls are shallow but I can understand that many women can't be attracted to short, even average height, men sometimes. I can't be attracted to obese women too most of the times.
But a woman that don't like a man if he is not rich? This is the most shallow category imo.
So I would really prefer to have more women by becoming taller (and more attractive as a result) than by becoming rich and be the same as I am in my appearance.
After all, doing LL is much easier than becoming millionaire and heighr stays forever while with money you may always bankrupt and lose everything. :P
I disagree. Height is something you were destined with that you could not naturally control. Wealth is something you can attain with intelligence and extremely hard work. So a woman being attracted to those qualities is no more shallow than a woman who is attracted to a man because of his height(something out of our control)
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After all, doing LL is much easier than becoming millionaire and heighr stays forever while with money you may always bankrupt and lose everything.
Right how dumb would you have to be to lose money that is invested in, let us say, classical 3 fund index portfolio?
I mean, it is just not real to lose that money.
You physically can't. If all those indexes fall to 0 it means humanity has been wiped out and money does not matter anyway.
So "losing all your money" is some poorfag myth literally. It just does not happen.
If you have a lot of money you get more by dividends and stock appreciation. The more money you have the more chances you will have even more in the future!
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I disagree. Height is something you were destined with that you could not naturally control. Wealth is something you can attain with intelligence and extremely hard work. So a woman being attracted to those qualities is no more shallow than a woman who is attracted to a man because of his height(something out of our control)
Maybe you are right.
But still attraction is most of the times something that we can't control so if a woman is attracted to someone tall, I don't think it is her fault or that she should have thought that height can't be changed naturally and all these.
On the other hand, I don't think that a woman who likes rich men do that because it is something from her nature but she just wants a good life, so in some way uses the man to have a better life while with height we talk about natural attraction.
So although I can't explain why women give so much importance on height (because a tall man has no real benefit in anything compared to a short man), I understand that it is in their nature most of the times to seek at least average height males, like we seek fit women compared to fat.
But with money, I don't believe that it is in the nature of a woman to be attracted to (very) rich men but it is a social choice to live a more luxury life.
So we have a natural choice (height-attractiveness) compared to a social choice (money) and thats why I thimk the second is more superficial.
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Do you think that these girls would have dated you if you weren't so rich?
If not, why are these girls less shallow than girls who wouldn't date a guy who is lets say less than 5.11 ?
Imo both girls are shallow but I can understand that many women can't be attracted to short, even average height, men sometimes. I can't be attracted to obese women too most of the times.
But a woman that don't like a man if he is not rich? This is the most shallow category imo.
So I would really prefer to have more women by becoming taller (and more attractive as a result) than by becoming rich and be the same as I am in my appearance.
After all, doing LL is much easier than becoming millionaire and heighr stays forever while with money you may always bankrupt and lose everything. :P
Yeah but if you have money you can afford the best doctor for the surgery. If he had been more conservative in his first surgery he could be 5 10 and millionaire.
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Bander we are comparing money vs looks and especially height. Not what can you get with money.
After all doing LL is not only a matter of money but much more important things like the will to risk your health, tolerance to pain, patience, determination and much more things that money can't buy.
So being rich doesn't mean that you can easily do LL.
The easier part of LL is to find the money to do it, although it is by far the most expensive cosmetic surgery.
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Bander we are comparing money vs looks and especially height. Not what can you get with money.
After all doing LL is not only a matter of money but much more important things like the will to risk your health, tolerance to pain, patience, determination and much more things that money can't buy.
So being rich doesn't mean that you can easily do LL.
The easier part of LL is to find the money to do it, although it is by far the most expensive cosmetic surgery.
Yes but those that don't have all the money in the world cant go to the top tier doctors Paley, the new york doctor. There is still some good ones but if you have a lot of money you could go for the best in everything and make the process easier.
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So although I can't explain why women give so much importance on height (because a tall man has no real benefit in anything compared to a short man), I understand that it is in their nature most of the times to seek at least average height males, like we seek fit women compared to fat.
But with money, I don't believe that it is in the nature of a woman to be attracted to (very) rich men but it is a social choice to live a more luxury life.
So we have a natural choice (height-attractiveness) compared to a social choice (money) and thats why I thimk the second is more superficial.
From what I understand of human nature, the purpose of living is to spread your genetics via children, and we select our mates based on how best the child would end up. Selecting the tallest male used to make sense because they were taller and faster, so they were better hunters and thus could have better chances of getting food or defending the tribe. It's still in girls instincts to do so, and at this point it's more of a social choice, because it stopped making sense to select a taller male for mating except for a social reason (i.e. being able to wear heels, not appearing shorter than your husband, etc.). However, in modern society, the richer male are the ones who can provide for the family and protect them. Why do girls and guys buy luxury items? Why buy a Bugatti when you can buy a VW that does the same functionality (get you from point A to B)? It's more attractive to girls to be in a higher status in society. And it always has been that. It used to be that the taller males were on the top of society. But with the information age, geeky people like the SnapChat co-founder are the ones marrying the Victoria Secret models.
And I'm attracted to mainly rich girls, too, even though I have a lot of money myself. Does that make me a gold digger? No. I just like girls who have the brains and ambitions to make something of themselves. I don't want to marry a "do nothing b*tch" who just sits around spending money and looking pretty. I rather date someone who I can talk to intellectually and hopefully have a sense of humor. But if the girl isn't rich, it doesn't matter to me, too, as long as they possess the same traits of a winner. That's why girls are willing to date guys who aren't rich but show potential of being rich. Like the girls who date musicians who haven't made it big yet. Or the girls who date guys in medical and law school. Or the girls who date Harvard guys - if you lie on you dating profile and say you've graduated from Harvard, you'd get more responses. And these guys aren't even rich, but they possess the potential and traits of being able to provide for their family. And that's what attracts girls.
The whole argument that only gold diggers date rich guys is shot down once you realize that I spend close to nothing on my dates. I take them to same not-too-cheap, not-too-expensive restaurants that I would have taken them if I were still middle-class. I take them to same museums and the same zoos and movies. All this stuff costs the same whether you are rich or poor. There is no real benefit to dating a rich guy, especially if I don't marry them and give them half my money. The real biggest difference is that I'm a very interesting person to date, because it takes a lot to get to where I am, and that's what girls (and guys) admire the most about me.
It's near impossible for me to become broke because my money makes money faster than I could spend it (i.e. if I just left my money in index funds my entire life and made no more income from a salary or business, I could live off the interest/dividends and still be growing my net worth each year). But in the off-chance that it does happen, I do not believe that girls will stop liking me. They like me for my personality, and my personality isn't going to change.
I think if a girl likes me for my looks instead, that would make more scared, because people shrink with age (look it up, you'll be an inch or two shorter as you get older), and people look uglier with age (wrinkles, weaker, flabbier, etc.). So I would actually be more scared if a girl likes me for my looks rather than for my money. At least I know my money isn't going anywhere, but I know my looks are declining each year.
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But with the information age, geeky people like the SnapChat co-founder are the ones marrying the Victoria Secret models.
Don't forget that she still cucked him despite his billions.
I agree with you that money and status go a long way though.
But you have to have the looks to go with the money and status to truly max it out.
How often do you see someone driving a Bentley / Ferrari / Bugatti to only look into window and realise he is a:
- Manlet
- Old
- Bald
- Fat
- Ugly
- Small frame
- Ethnic
It just ruins the whole illusion and the whole "prince in a white bentley" Disney fairytale.
You have to be the charming, beautiful, tall man who steps out of that car.
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It speaks volumes of the user base here that a thread like this will go on for 5 pages yet one on discussing limb lengthening research, safety and advancement will get a couple of replies. I don't even think the old forum was this bad with going over the same old subjects again and again and again...