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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: Victims of the Wannabetaller2 on December 25, 2022, 11:53:06 AM
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Hi I’m one of the victims of limb lengthening surgery in Wannabetaller in Turkey, they do not have professional medical knowledge and do not pay enough attention to bone infection including their doctors Yuksel and yunus, but they are engaged in medical consulting work, they are not qualified to do this work! Don't be deceived by their overwhelming advertisements and superficial services. If there is an accident in their operation, they will only shirk the responsibility to the patient themselves. They don't know how to deal with osteomyelitis and call it a complication, but in surgery Did not tell any risks and how to prevent them, how to deal with them! Unscrupulous agencies just because they are not professional and do not intend to be responsible! They advertised that they provided renting services for patients, but they used the excuse that I suffered from osteomyelitis when I left their hotel after removing the stents as an excuse to shirk responsibility! My leg wasn't actually a trauma infection, it was a swollen infection starting to develop inside the nail! X-rays can't see the problem in the early stage! In addition, 2 patients who had surgery at a similar time to mine continued to live in Wannabetaller's hotel for 3 months after removing the stents, and after returning home, they also developed osteomyelitis symptoms of swelling at the broken bone! Because their domestic doctors performed debridement surgery for them in the fastest time, and they recovered. I was more unfortunate than them. I didn’t get the fastest debridement surgery because I was still in Turkey, and there were not enough professionals around me at that time. People, although I told Wannabetaller early on that my leg was swollen and had a fever and even pus, they didn't do anything! I originally planned to return to my country when I recovered to be able to walk, and I thought that if I had problems with my legs in Turkey, I could find an intermediary and a doctor! Unfortunately, it turns out how unprofessional and irresponsible Wannabetaller is, which has caused me to be treated for chronic osteomyelitis for 6 months now! I will continue to wear the external fixator for half a year! Because now I have removed my nails and put on an external fixator. I have been hospitalized for 28 days and have not been discharged. I am taking antibiotics every day. Chronic osteomyelitis will be difficult to cure. It may be a disease that will accompany me all my life! All this is caused by Wannabetaller's unprofessional and irresponsible! On July 8, 2022 I told the Wannabetaller staff that my broken bone in my leg suddenly swelled up and they didn't know what to do! I waited until 15 days after the pus was drained and was diagnosed with osteomyelitis by their doctor Yunus. They still lied to me that it was not serious and no debridement surgery was needed. Their wrong and ignorant decision made me miss the best and most important surgery to completely remove bacteria Over time, the bacteria formed a biofilm on the nails and could not be killed by antibiotics, so my wounds healed very slowly, and on October 24, redness, swelling and suppuration appeared on the knees of my legs, and chronic osteomyelitis recurred! All the orthopedic surgeons I interviewed suggested that the nail must be removed for treatment, and because the bacteria spread to the entire medullary cavity, the treatment was difficult and the cycle was very long. It has been 6 months since the infection occurred in July 2022 to now on December 25th, and I am still treating this chronic osteomyelitis! Because of the irresponsibility of the Wannabetaller agency and the unprofessionalism of their doctors, the delay in treatment and improper treatment finally caused me to suffer from chronic osteomyelitis. After that, they still shamelessly shirk responsibility and say that I caused chronic osteomyelitis! These medical illiterates are really rascals! Remember that Wannabetaller and the doctors they work with have poor medical skills and poor ethics. If there is an accident, they will only pass the responsibility to the patient and not give them a complete cure or compensation for the treatment fee! They don't give me surgery contracts, medical records, and invoices. They not only want to evade taxes, but also want to evade the responsibility of compensating the victims! Do not believe their overwhelming false advertising! Everything they advertise is hypocritical and deceptive for the sake of patients!
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Hi I’m one of the victims of limb lengthening surgery in Wannabetaller in Turkey, they do not have professional medical knowledge and do not pay enough attention to bone infection including their doctors Yuksel and yunus, but they are engaged in medical consulting work, they are not qualified to do this work! Don't be deceived by their overwhelming advertisements and superficial services. If there is an accident in their operation, they will only shirk the responsibility to the patient themselves. They don't know how to deal with osteomyelitis and call it a complication, but in surgery Did not tell any risks and how to prevent them, how to deal with them! Unscrupulous agencies just because they are not professional and do not intend to be responsible! They advertised that they provided renting services for patients, but they used the excuse that I suffered from osteomyelitis when I left their hotel after removing the stents as an excuse to shirk responsibility! My leg wasn't actually a trauma infection, it was a swollen infection starting to develop inside the nail! X-rays can't see the problem in the early stage! In addition, 2 patients who had surgery at a similar time to mine continued to live in Wannabetaller's hotel for 3 months after removing the stents, and after returning home, they also developed osteomyelitis symptoms of swelling at the broken bone! Because their domestic doctors performed debridement surgery for them in the fastest time, and they recovered. I was more unfortunate than them. I didn’t get the fastest debridement surgery because I was still in Turkey, and there were not enough professionals around me at that time. People, although I told Wannabetaller early on that my leg was swollen and had a fever and even pus, they didn't do anything! I originally planned to return to my country when I recovered to be able to walk, and I thought that if I had problems with my legs in Turkey, I could find an intermediary and a doctor! Unfortunately, it turns out how unprofessional and irresponsible Wannabetaller is, which has caused me to be treated for chronic osteomyelitis for 6 months now! I will continue to wear the external fixator for half a year! Because now I have removed my nails and put on an external fixator. I have been hospitalized for 28 days and have not been discharged. I am taking antibiotics every day. Chronic osteomyelitis will be difficult to cure. It may be a disease that will accompany me all my life! All this is caused by Wannabetaller's unprofessional and irresponsible! On July 8, 2022 I told the Wannabetaller staff that my broken bone in my leg suddenly swelled up and they didn't know what to do! I waited until 15 days after the pus was drained and was diagnosed with osteomyelitis by their doctor Yunus. They still lied to me that it was not serious and no debridement surgery was needed. Their wrong and ignorant decision made me miss the best and most important surgery to completely remove bacteria Over time, the bacteria formed a biofilm on the nails and could not be killed by antibiotics, so my wounds healed very slowly, and on October 24, redness, swelling and suppuration appeared on the knees of my legs, and chronic osteomyelitis recurred! All the orthopedic surgeons I interviewed suggested that the nail must be removed for treatment, and because the bacteria spread to the entire medullary cavity, the treatment was difficult and the cycle was very long. It has been 6 months since the infection occurred in July 2022 to now on December 25th, and I am still treating this chronic osteomyelitis! Because of the irresponsibility of the Wannabetaller agency and the unprofessionalism of their doctors, the delay in treatment and improper treatment finally caused me to suffer from chronic osteomyelitis. After that, they still shamelessly shirk responsibility and say that I caused chronic osteomyelitis! These medical illiterates are really rascals! Remember that Wannabetaller and the doctors they work with have poor medical skills and poor ethics. If there is an accident, they will only pass the responsibility to the patient and not give them a complete cure or compensation for the treatment fee! They don't give me surgery contracts, medical records, and invoices. They not only want to evade taxes, but also want to evade the responsibility of compensating the victims! Do not believe their overwhelming false advertising! Everything they advertise is hypocritical and deceptive for the sake of patients!
That's my biggest fear, osteomyelitis. I've been religiously blow drying all my pin sites after any contact with the bathroom. Hope you get better soon.
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Hi I’m one of the victims of limb lengthening surgery in Wannabetaller in Turkey, they do not have professional medical knowledge and do not pay enough attention to bone infection including their doctors Yuksel and yunus, but they are engaged in medical consulting work, they are not qualified to do this work! Don't be deceived by their overwhelming advertisements and superficial services. If there is an accident in their operation, they will only shirk the responsibility to the patient themselves. They don't know how to deal with osteomyelitis and call it a complication, but in surgery Did not tell any risks and how to prevent them, how to deal with them! Unscrupulous agencies just because they are not professional and do not intend to be responsible! They advertised that they provided renting services for patients, but they used the excuse that I suffered from osteomyelitis when I left their hotel after removing the stents as an excuse to shirk responsibility! My leg wasn't actually a trauma infection, it was a swollen infection starting to develop inside the nail! X-rays can't see the problem in the early stage! In addition, 2 patients who had surgery at a similar time to mine continued to live in Wannabetaller's hotel for 3 months after removing the stents, and after returning home, they also developed osteomyelitis symptoms of swelling at the broken bone! Because their domestic doctors performed debridement surgery for them in the fastest time, and they recovered. I was more unfortunate than them. I didn’t get the fastest debridement surgery because I was still in Turkey, and there were not enough professionals around me at that time. People, although I told Wannabetaller early on that my leg was swollen and had a fever and even pus, they didn't do anything! I originally planned to return to my country when I recovered to be able to walk, and I thought that if I had problems with my legs in Turkey, I could find an intermediary and a doctor! Unfortunately, it turns out how unprofessional and irresponsible Wannabetaller is, which has caused me to be treated for chronic osteomyelitis for 6 months now! I will continue to wear the external fixator for half a year! Because now I have removed my nails and put on an external fixator. I have been hospitalized for 28 days and have not been discharged. I am taking antibiotics every day. Chronic osteomyelitis will be difficult to cure. It may be a disease that will accompany me all my life! All this is caused by Wannabetaller's unprofessional and irresponsible! On July 8, 2022 I told the Wannabetaller staff that my broken bone in my leg suddenly swelled up and they didn't know what to do! I waited until 15 days after the pus was drained and was diagnosed with osteomyelitis by their doctor Yunus. They still lied to me that it was not serious and no debridement surgery was needed. Their wrong and ignorant decision made me miss the best and most important surgery to completely remove bacteria Over time, the bacteria formed a biofilm on the nails and could not be killed by antibiotics, so my wounds healed very slowly, and on October 24, redness, swelling and suppuration appeared on the knees of my legs, and chronic osteomyelitis recurred! All the orthopedic surgeons I interviewed suggested that the nail must be removed for treatment, and because the bacteria spread to the entire medullary cavity, the treatment was difficult and the cycle was very long. It has been 6 months since the infection occurred in July 2022 to now on December 25th, and I am still treating this chronic osteomyelitis! Because of the irresponsibility of the Wannabetaller agency and the unprofessionalism of their doctors, the delay in treatment and improper treatment finally caused me to suffer from chronic osteomyelitis. After that, they still shamelessly shirk responsibility and say that I caused chronic osteomyelitis! These medical illiterates are really rascals! Remember that Wannabetaller and the doctors they work with have poor medical skills and poor ethics. If there is an accident, they will only pass the responsibility to the patient and not give them a complete cure or compensation for the treatment fee! They don't give me surgery contracts, medical records, and invoices. They not only want to evade taxes, but also want to evade the responsibility of compensating the victims! Do not believe their overwhelming false advertising! Everything they advertise is hypocritical and deceptive for the sake of patients!
Very sad to hear all of this. Who did your surgery exactly? Dr Yunus or Dr Yuksel? Can you share photos? Or Xrays? Because they will deny it right away obviously.
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I cannot say it often enough: LON is the worst method you can choose for LL since the outer world is directly connected to your bone marrow!
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Yuksel
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I was operated by Yuksel, when my leg was swollen I contacted wannabetaller and they told me they are not working with Yuksel anymore. And gave me contact information to contact Yuksel myself, I contacted Yuksel and he said he was back after 5 days vacation. After waiting for 2 days my leg swelled and started to burst pus and bleed profusely, I contacted Yuksel again and he told me to go to the emergency department of his hospital where I waited for 2 hours before an intern came and dug it with a spoon The wound was bandaged after a few strokes, and the next day my wound festered even bigger! Then I contacted Wannabetaller and took me to see their yunus. He said that I was not serious and did not need debridement surgery, but only needed antibiotics. Even though I told them that the hole can lead to the intramedullary needle, and the pus may enter the medullary cavity, they insisted that I don't need debridement surgery. This wrong decision made me miss the best and most important treatment.
My x-rays can't show obvious problems yet because I have been taking antibiotics, but Staphylococcus aureus was detected on the removed nails
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I was operated by Yuksel, when my leg was swollen I contacted wannabetaller and they told me they are not working with Yuksel anymore. And gave me contact information to contact Yuksel myself, I contacted Yuksel and he said he was back after 5 days vacation. After waiting for 2 days my leg swelled and started to burst pus and bleed profusely, I contacted Yuksel again and he told me to go to the emergency department of his hospital where I waited for 2 hours before an intern came and dug it with a spoon The wound was bandaged after a few strokes, and the next day my wound festered even bigger! Then I contacted Wannabetaller and took me to see their yunus. He said that I was not serious and did not need debridement surgery, but only needed antibiotics. Even though I told them that the hole can lead to the intramedullary needle, and the pus may enter the medullary cavity, they insisted that I don't need debridement surgery. This wrong decision made me miss the best and most important treatment.
My x-rays can't show obvious problems yet because I have been taking antibiotics, but Staphylococcus aureus was detected on the removed nails
Were you taking antibiotics everyday during lengthening and during consolidation? Sorry I'm trying to see the best way I can also avoid this mess.
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Hi I’m one of the victims of limb lengthening surgery in Wannabetaller in Turkey, they do not have professional medical knowledge and do not pay enough attention to bone infection including their doctors Yuksel and yunus, but they are engaged in medical consulting work, they are not qualified to do this work! Don't be deceived by their overwhelming advertisements and superficial services. If there is an accident in their operation, they will only shirk the responsibility to the patient themselves. They don't know how to deal with osteomyelitis and call it a complication, but in surgery Did not tell any risks and how to prevent them, how to deal with them! Unscrupulous agencies just because they are not professional and do not intend to be responsible! They advertised that they provided renting services for patients, but they used the excuse that I suffered from osteomyelitis when I left their hotel after removing the stents as an excuse to shirk responsibility! My leg wasn't actually a trauma infection, it was a swollen infection starting to develop inside the nail! X-rays can't see the problem in the early stage! In addition, 2 patients who had surgery at a similar time to mine continued to live in Wannabetaller's hotel for 3 months after removing the stents, and after returning home, they also developed osteomyelitis symptoms of swelling at the broken bone! Because their domestic doctors performed debridement surgery for them in the fastest time, and they recovered. I was more unfortunate than them. I didn’t get the fastest debridement surgery because I was still in Turkey, and there were not enough professionals around me at that time. People, although I told Wannabetaller early on that my leg was swollen and had a fever and even pus, they didn't do anything! I originally planned to return to my country when I recovered to be able to walk, and I thought that if I had problems with my legs in Turkey, I could find an intermediary and a doctor! Unfortunately, it turns out how unprofessional and irresponsible Wannabetaller is, which has caused me to be treated for chronic osteomyelitis for 6 months now! I will continue to wear the external fixator for half a year! Because now I have removed my nails and put on an external fixator. I have been hospitalized for 28 days and have not been discharged. I am taking antibiotics every day. Chronic osteomyelitis will be difficult to cure. It may be a disease that will accompany me all my life! All this is caused by Wannabetaller's unprofessional and irresponsible! On July 8, 2022 I told the Wannabetaller staff that my broken bone in my leg suddenly swelled up and they didn't know what to do! I waited until 15 days after the pus was drained and was diagnosed with osteomyelitis by their doctor Yunus. They still lied to me that it was not serious and no debridement surgery was needed. Their wrong and ignorant decision made me miss the best and most important surgery to completely remove bacteria Over time, the bacteria formed a biofilm on the nails and could not be killed by antibiotics, so my wounds healed very slowly, and on October 24, redness, swelling and suppuration appeared on the knees of my legs, and chronic osteomyelitis recurred! All the orthopedic surgeons I interviewed suggested that the nail must be removed for treatment, and because the bacteria spread to the entire medullary cavity, the treatment was difficult and the cycle was very long. It has been 6 months since the infection occurred in July 2022 to now on December 25th, and I am still treating this chronic osteomyelitis! Because of the irresponsibility of the Wannabetaller agency and the unprofessionalism of their doctors, the delay in treatment and improper treatment finally caused me to suffer from chronic osteomyelitis. After that, they still shamelessly shirk responsibility and say that I caused chronic osteomyelitis! These medical illiterates are really rascals! Remember that Wannabetaller and the doctors they work with have poor medical skills and poor ethics. If there is an accident, they will only pass the responsibility to the patient and not give them a complete cure or compensation for the treatment fee! They don't give me surgery contracts, medical records, and invoices. They not only want to evade taxes, but also want to evade the responsibility of compensating the victims! Do not believe their overwhelming false advertising! Everything they advertise is hypocritical and deceptive for the sake of patients!
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I'm sorry to hear. How do you know it's chronic and not acute?
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This is so sad to read I hope you are okay, are you still in Turkey?
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Omg. And some people still plan to do LL with these clowns.
Congratulations for your post and for sharing your tragic experience with these butchers. Anyone who will go to them for LL after your post will be comoletely responsible for ruining himself.
Continue your antibiotics and do what your doctors say. Biofilms are bery hard to get rid of but with some combination of strong antibiotics for a long time I am sure you'll be ok.
Keep strong mate.
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I'm sorry to hear. How do you know it's chronic and not acute?
If it was acute he could fix it with at max 2 weeks of antibiotics.
By taking them for a long time it means it is chronic. That doesn't mean he can't be cured burmt it is mire difficult and needs much more time.
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OMG! I'm sorry to hear that, so sad.
I really hope you get it well soon!
Do you think doing pure TSF externals has the same risk? Or it's just a thing with LON method?
Stay strong man.
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this post should be sticky so everyone should see what kind of people these people are.
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This is also Yuksel’s patient. She underwent surgery a month later than me. She lived in Wannabetaler’s hotel for 3 months after removing the stent and returned home. She suddenly found that the broken bone was as red, swollen and painful as mine. Fortunately, the domestic doctors A debridement operation was quickly performed on her. Although the process was painful, she has been discharged from the hospital. I am more unfortunate than her. I am still in Turkey. I have a high fever and cannot return home and need to be quarantined for 14 days and cannot seek medical treatment. Although I told Wannabetaller and doctor Yuksel at the early stage of swelling at the broken bone, I did not receive professional and timely treatment from them. Wannabetaller asked their new doctor yunus to prescribe antibiotic IV for me after 15 days of pus and let me go home and infuse. But because they said that I am not serious and do not need to do debridement, they said that the pus will not flow into the bone cavity, and finally the infusion did not completely kill the bacteria, 2 months have passed and my wound has not fully healed, and there is still fluid coming out , yunus said it’s okay, I can take a shower, and promised that there will be no more problems in the future. After less than 2 months, my knees began to be red, swollen and painful. I consulted many doctors and they suggested that I remove the nails. They thought it was Nails carry bacteria, and the bacteria have formed a biofilm on the nails, and antibiotics are useless without removing the nails. I asked the doctor why me and 2 other patients had swelling three months after removing the stent, why other patients can not have their nails removed and I have to remove the nails, the doctor explained that it depends on the number of bacteria, the type of bacteria, and The strength of the resistance, and whether the treatment time is fast.
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My calf touched the water very late,about after 2 months after I removed the bracket. I was always careful, just very afraid of infection, but I did not expect it to appear in a swollen manner!It was swollen suddenly, I had never been infected, and all this happened with almost no sign.
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This is the calf of 2 patients operated by Dr. Yuksel of Wannabetaller at the same time as me. All three of us had the same redness and internal infection at the broken bone at about the same time after the brace was removed. The two of them have returned to China, have been cured quickly and have been discharged from the hospital. And I'm still in Turkey, wasted precious time by Wannabetaler's unprofessional and irresponsible, from the beginning of the infection to the 6th month I'm still in treatment! Although I contacted the Wannabetaller team at the beginning of the swelling, I ended up with chronic osteomyelitis because of their delay in treatment and refusal to debride. Even though I have been using antibiotics for a long time, my legs are still red, swollen and suppurated repeatedly in different places. The Wannabetaller team refused to change doctors other than yunus to treat me, and yunus thought that I would have no problems and said that there was no more in my legs bacteria! I went to Yuksel and he didn't think I needed to have my nails removed. I spent 20 days in Turkey for this test before I finished the white blood cell bone scan. And the inspection fee Yuksel did not remove the nails for me. If an experienced doctor does not need any inspection, he can know that the bacteria must still be on the nail, just like the two patients who encountered the same situation as me, they gave debridement surgery in the fastest time, but I did not, this is The reason why my legs would be repeatedly red, swollen and suppurated, I had to go back to China to remove the nails for treatment!
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Before I went to Wannabetaller to do calf Lon, one of Wannabetaller's patients who also did calf Lon was called the “moon”. The “moon ”told me that no patient had ever been infected in the Wannabetaller team. I don't know if she lied to me because at least 3 of us had internal swelling infections. This probability is high.
I have been very careful to prevent my wound from getting infected from the beginning of the stent operation. I do n’t smoke and drink, I do n’t eat chili, and I have never exposed the wound. I did n’t expose the wound to touch the water until my calf touched the water until 2 months after the stent was removed. The other patient's therapist (she was treated in Singapore) thought that our infection was more likely to be brought into bacteria due to surgery.
I asked Chinese doctor if the infection rate of the external stent is very high? He told me that even if the outer frame was not so easy to be infected, some of the racks they wore to the orthopedic patients were children. When the children returned from the countryside, There was mud on the bracket very dirty, but their wounds were still not infected. Unless bacteria are brought during surgery, because blood and antibiotics cannot reach the nails to remove bacteria, the infection erupts from the inside over time. If the infection does not clean up the pus and bacteria as fast as possible , it will form a biofilm on the nails. It will not kill by only antibiotics. Remove necrotic infectious tissue and remove the nails is one of the measures to avoid recurrence. However, even taken out the nails now and used antibiotics to clean the marrow cavity, and now the test results are negative. These tests still cannot indicate that the bacteria are completely cleared. It only means that the infection is controlled. In the future, must pay attention to improving immunity.If immunity decreases, chronic osteomyelitis maybe will recur. This makes me feel very sad!
When I worry about my epiphysis ,The Chinese doctors told me the epiphysis can grow in a low-toxic infected environment, and even stimulate bone hyperplasia,but it can’t be as strong as healthy bones. This may be the reason why the epiphysis of my right leg is fuller than the non-infected left leg. Chronic osteomyelitis cannot be completely cured. It may become my lifelong disease.
Yuksel was unwilling to accept the diagnosis of other doctors. He did not accept other doctors to diagnose myelitis. He saw my X-rays to judge that my legs had no problem. He said that our operation had ended for a few months. He also said that throat urinary tract infections would also cause osteomyelitis. Unfortunately, I did not have these diseases, and the other infected girl said she also did not have these diseases. I found a type of osteomyelitis called delayed osteomyelitis on the Internet:Some patients developed osteomyelitis a few months after fracture surgery, which was called delayed osteomyelitis. I don't know if Wannabetaller's doctors understand these medical knowledge.
Before I said that I contacted the wannabetaller team in the early days of my right leg was swollen but they told me that because they ended the cooperation with Yuksel, that Yuksel never responded to their messages so they could not reach Yuksel so they thought that was not their problem. And they have asked me to visit their new doctor Yunus. My right leg was purulent osteomyelitis, but yunus said that I did not need debridement surgery, just told me could use antibiotics 6weeks,he thought my osteomyelitis was not serious, and when I finished 6weeks antibiotic IV my osteomyelitis became chronic myelitis!But Yunus still insisted that my legs do not need any surgery, and he thought I could stop antibiotics and also my wound could touch water , even though he saw my wound was still a small hole with liquid flowing out.
Chinese doctors said that if my leg was pus at the first time, the doctor of Wannabetaller took out my nails and used antibiotics , I might not get chronic osteomyelitis. The facts also prove that after Yunus's no need to remove the nails thoroughly cleans only the treatment of antibiotics , Chronic osteomyelitis recurred within 2 months, and redness and swelling and pus appeared in the position of knee and lock nails. In the end I had to take out my nails and put on an outer holder.
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In addition, the nerve in my right foot has been numb for a year after the operation, and I don't know if it will return to normal. Also Yuksel didn't lock my fibula, which caused my fibula to move down after lengthening, and it didn't even lock at the ankle. Almost every patient we operate at Wannabetaller has different problems. But chronic osteomyelitis is perhaps the most serious problem.
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how to connect with you? WeChat?whatapp?I want to talk with you about this terrible case.i was interested in Dr.yuksel,but after reading your case,I should really think wtf!!, what happened with Dr.yuksel.i know his assistant last year,and I have a lot of chatting with his assistant,but she quit this year early,after that ,I can't get real information about Dr.yuksel.please connect with me.my email: neoniubi@yahoo.com,send me your WeChat or whatapp with this email address, thanks
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What surprised me the most was not the problem of infection, but when the infection occurred, the doctors and the intermediary team ignored the problem and delayed the treatment, resulting in severe osteomyelitis. This attitude of ignoring the patient is the reason the biggest problem
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Wow this is insane, I’m very sorry for what’s happening to you. From my own experience with LON femur and the people I’ve met, at least 50% of the people get infections. Any doctor who performs external femur LON is a butcher
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Also, did you take antibiotics during lengthening and during consolidation?
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Omg its my first time here on the forum and reading this is pretty scary, are complications like this common?
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Also, did you take antibiotics during lengthening and during consolidation?
The team gived us only 1 box of antibiotics for 1 week after LL
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The team gived us only 1 box of antibiotics for 1 week after LL
Ahh this is your issue. I'm doing LL with Doctor Yukksels own separate LL team currently, and I'm taking antibiotics 2 times a day every single day for the entire lengthening. I hope you definitely get better, and I hope nothing like that happens to me.
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Omg its my first time here on the forum and reading this is pretty scary, are complications like this common?
Of course it's still common. I hope you will never meet such a doctor and team as me
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The team gived us only 1 box of antibiotics for 1 week after LL
Also, how often did you get your bandages changed? I'm currently getting them changed every 2 days. So MWF
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Ahh this is your issue. I'm doing LL with Doctor Yukksels own separate LL team currently, and I'm taking antibiotics 2 times a day every single day for the entire lengthening. I hope you definitely get better, and I hope nothing like that happens to me.
Maybe because after my accident dr. Yuksel become more carefully to patients. Before he told to team give us only 1 box of antibiotics. And when I get this sick, he told me it's not serious and he let me wait until he come back from holiday
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Also, how often did you get your bandages changed? I'm currently getting them changed every 2 days. So MWF
Wannabetaller's nurse sometimes changed bandages every 2 days, when she was busy she changed bandages every 5 days or every week
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Wannabetaller's nurse sometimes changed bandages every 2 days, when she was busy she changed bandages every 5 days or every week
Ahh, I feel sorry for your experience man and I hope you get better. Hopefully nothing like that happens to me.
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Maybe because after my accident dr. Yuksel become more carefully to patients. Before he told to team give us only 1 box of antibiotics. And when I get this sick, he told me it's not serious and he let me wait until he come back from holiday
It looks like he did surgery for cheap prices to chinese patients like you to gain experience. Simply we can say he used you as guinea pig. So unfortunate.. :-\ Will you going to sue Dr Yuksel? Or WannaBeTaller?
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Hi I’m one of the victims of limb lengthening surgery in Wannabetaller in Turkey, they do not have professional medical knowledge and do not pay enough attention to bone infection including their doctors Yuksel and yunus, but they are engaged in medical consulting work, they are not qualified to do this work! Don't be deceived by their overwhelming advertisements and superficial services. If there is an accident in their operation, they will only shirk the responsibility to the patient themselves. They don't know how to deal with osteomyelitis and call it a complication, but in surgery Did not tell any risks and how to prevent them, how to deal with them! Unscrupulous agencies just because they are not professional and do not intend to be responsible! They advertised that they provided renting services for patients, but they used the excuse that I suffered from osteomyelitis when I left their hotel after removing the stents as an excuse to shirk responsibility! My leg wasn't actually a trauma infection, it was a swollen infection starting to develop inside the nail! X-rays can't see the problem in the early stage! In addition, 2 patients who had surgery at a similar time to mine continued to live in Wannabetaller's hotel for 3 months after removing the stents, and after returning home, they also developed osteomyelitis symptoms of swelling at the broken bone! Because their domestic doctors performed debridement surgery for them in the fastest time, and they recovered. I was more unfortunate than them. I didn’t get the fastest debridement surgery because I was still in Turkey, and there were not enough professionals around me at that time. People, although I told Wannabetaller early on that my leg was swollen and had a fever and even pus, they didn't do anything! I originally planned to return to my country when I recovered to be able to walk, and I thought that if I had problems with my legs in Turkey, I could find an intermediary and a doctor! Unfortunately, it turns out how unprofessional and irresponsible Wannabetaller is, which has caused me to be treated for chronic osteomyelitis for 6 months now! I will continue to wear the external fixator for half a year! Because now I have removed my nails and put on an external fixator. I have been hospitalized for 28 days and have not been discharged. I am taking antibiotics every day. Chronic osteomyelitis will be difficult to cure. It may be a disease that will accompany me all my life! All this is caused by Wannabetaller's unprofessional and irresponsible! On July 8, 2022 I told the Wannabetaller staff that my broken bone in my leg suddenly swelled up and they didn't know what to do! I waited until 15 days after the pus was drained and was diagnosed with osteomyelitis by their doctor Yunus. They still lied to me that it was not serious and no debridement surgery was needed. Their wrong and ignorant decision made me miss the best and most important surgery to completely remove bacteria Over time, the bacteria formed a biofilm on the nails and could not be killed by antibiotics, so my wounds healed very slowly, and on October 24, redness, swelling and suppuration appeared on the knees of my legs, and chronic osteomyelitis recurred! All the orthopedic surgeons I interviewed suggested that the nail must be removed for treatment, and because the bacteria spread to the entire medullary cavity, the treatment was difficult and the cycle was very long. It has been 6 months since the infection occurred in July 2022 to now on December 25th, and I am still treating this chronic osteomyelitis! Because of the irresponsibility of the Wannabetaller agency and the unprofessionalism of their doctors, the delay in treatment and improper treatment finally caused me to suffer from chronic osteomyelitis. After that, they still shamelessly shirk responsibility and say that I caused chronic osteomyelitis! These medical illiterates are really rascals! Remember that Wannabetaller and the doctors they work with have poor medical skills and poor ethics. If there is an accident, they will only pass the responsibility to the patient and not give them a complete cure or compensation for the treatment fee! They don't give me surgery contracts, medical records, and invoices. They not only want to evade taxes, but also want to evade the responsibility of compensating the victims! Do not believe their overwhelming false advertising! Everything they advertise is hypocritical and deceptive for the sake of patients!
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Your post is much appreciated, but frankly, it is difficult to read.
It would be helpful if you could organize the events that occurred in chronological order.
Also, it would be great if we could know the date each photo was taken.
Osteomyelitis occurred in July 2022, when did you have your first surgery before that?
Also, when did you have your nail removal surgery?
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Wannabetaller's nurse sometimes changed bandages every 2 days, when she was busy she changed bandages every 5 days or every week
"when she was busy she changed bandages every 5 days or every week" what was her name? I's been almost 1.5 months for me staying at wannabetaller's rehab and I have never seen a single infection case. Also everyone's bandages are changed every 2 days. I don't want to call you a liar but saying that dressings were changed once a week sound straight a lie.
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"when she was busy she changed bandages every 5 days or every week" what was her name? I's been almost 1.5 months for me staying at wannabetaller's rehab and I have never seen a single infection case. Also everyone's bandages are changed every 2 days. I don't want to call you a liar but saying that dressings were changed once a week sound straight a lie.
You may not believe it, but that is the fact of my experience! But I don't think my osteomyelitis has anything to do with how often the nurse changes the gauze! Because my wound was not infected before the swollen osteomyelitis happened. Moreover, I saw other doctors in China perform corrective surgery. They did not wrap gauze after the wound healed, and no patient was infected. The doctor said that even if it is an external fixator, even if it is a traumatic infection, it is not easy to infect the bone marrow.
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It looks like he did surgery for cheap prices to chinese patients like you to gain experience. Simply we can say he used you as guinea pig. So unfortunate.. :-\ Will you going to sue Dr Yuksel? Or WannaBeTaller?
Our operation fee and accommodation fee are paid to wannabetaller, because many things happened, I admit that the boss of wannabetaller is not a person of high morals. But yuksel is a doctor, no matter how much money he makes, I think he should have professional ethics, it is impossible to make fun of a patient's leg! I went to see Yuksel before returning home, and although he didn't think it was necessary for me to remove the nails, his attitude was much better.
I want to sue Wannabetaller team, I have not been cured until now.Another patient who was repaired 4 times by Wannabetaller doctor Yuksel, her inner thigh surgery, she said she almost died on the operating table, and even though she went through 4 She was very dissatisfied with Wannabetaller's attitude towards her, and she also wanted to sue Wannabetaller, but Wannabetaller did not give us the operation contract and receipt, and we did not have enough evidence. Turkish law does not recognize Chinese WeChat chat records. I’m not sure if it can be successful.In fact, I am not the only victim of Wannabetaller, but others chose to remain silent.Originally, if my leg was cured, I didn't want to say anything. As a doctor, whether the operation is cheap or not should not be the reason to treat the patient as a guinea pig!
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Your post is much appreciated, but frankly, it is difficult to read.
It would be helpful if you could organize the events that occurred in chronological order.
Also, it would be great if we could know the date each photo was taken.
Osteomyelitis occurred in July 2022, when did you have your first surgery before that?
Also, when did you have your nail removal surgery?
Sorry, it's my first time using this software. Because I have been hospitalized and I don’t have a computer, I asked someone who are also unfamiliar with this software to post the pictures and edited text for me. If I can modify it when I go home after I leave the hospital, I will write the date or explanation after each picture, but this post does not seem to allow modification of the content, so I can only add new content by replying.
My first operation was on January 1, 2022, and the stent was removed on April 5. On the night of July 7, I suddenly felt cold and had a fever and my legs had no strength. When I woke up on July 8, I found that my leg was broken. The bone was bulging, I contacted Wannabetaller immediately, they asked me to contact Yuksel myself, Yuksel said he was on vacation and asked me to wait for him for 5 days to come back to see him, on July 10 the swelling burst and a lot of pus came out... …July 11 I went to Yuksel’s emergency department but got no useful treatment, July 14wannabetaller asked me to see yunus, July 20yunus told me the diagnosis was osteomyelitis, told me that I could use gentamicin for 6 weeks, I Intravenous infusion was chosen for faster infection control. However, because Yunus did not recommend debridement surgery, the pus bacteria in my wound were not completely killed by antibiotics. On September 1, I visited Yunus again, and he diagnosed chronic osteomyelitis. I asked Wannabetaller to replace me with a more experienced osteomyelitis doctor and asked for debridement, Wannabetaller refused. So I chose to return home for treatment. I visited Yuksel before returning home and he said my tests showed nothing wrong with my legs and no bacteria. Before going to visit Yuksel, he said that if it is necessary to remove the nails, he will remove them for me and clean the wound as long as I pay for the surgery, but in the end he said that there is no problem with my test and there is no need to remove the nails. So I went back to my country, but on the way back to my country, my knees started to be red, swollen and painful... I took antibiotics for a month, and after 3 days of stopping the antibiotics, the redness turned into pustules that were about to explode! On oct 24th my knees and lower lock nails started to be red, swollen and painful, i have been on antibiotics and have been to several doctors in different hospitals and they all think i need to have my nails removed because i still have bacteria in my legs and they Let my osteomyelitis relapse. I was hospitalized on the night of 11/28, had nails removed, external fixator was put on 11/29, and antibiotics were dripped through the opening in the knee to flush the bone, antibiotics were poured through the ankle, IV vancomycin, rinsed After 3 weeks, the doctor first removed the tube in the knee, and then removed the tube in the ankle a few days later. Now my knee wound is so painful that I can't walk.
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The doctor and the intermediary team did not pay much attention to the infection. From the beginning of the slight infection and inflammation, they felt that it was not a problem. The doctor did not want to be responsible, thinking that the intermediary team was responsible for the daily changing of gauze and disinfection. The intermediary team felt that it was the doctor’s job to deal with the infection and inflammation. Work. They pushed each other and were unwilling to deal with it, which eventually delayed the treatment, resulting in severe osteomyelitis, requiring amputation of necrotic bones and re-fixation of the external fixator.
The doctor and the business team only cooperate according to the order, and the doctor will stop asking the patient after the operation. The business team employs ordinary nurses to change gauze and take medicine for patients. But these nurses were lazy and changed the gauze of the patient once a week at most, leading to serious infections.
Because the business team receives the order, and then hires a doctor to perform the operation. After the operation is completed, the business team arranges the accommodation during the extended period, so that the business team can earn the accommodation fee. Since the accommodation is arranged by the business team, the nursing staff is also the business team. Employed, and these nurses basically know nothing about medical services.
The doctor only charged the money for the operation, he is not responsible for everything after the operation, the business team is responsible
In order to save money, the business team hires people with no medical care experience to take care of patients, and they are lazy, changing gauze only once every 5 days or a week, and giving patients anti-inflammatory drugs every 5 days.
The patient himself was inexperienced, completely unaware that there was a problem, and just waited, doing nothing, until a severe infection developed, leading to periostitis. In fact, if the patient realizes that the gauze and anti-inflammatory drugs should be changed every 2 days, he can change the gauze and take the medicine on time at home.
So, don't rely on the business team, don't trust any service they can give you, you are in charge of your legs and no one will care about your legs. If nursing staff is needed, let doctors hire nursing staff as much as possible, and let doctors earn this money, not business teams. In this way, the doctor is in charge, otherwise, the doctor will not be responsible for your infection during the extended period. If you feel that you live at home and change the gauze, dressing, and medication by yourself, then you should contact the doctor more and communicate with other patients, which is more useful than relying on the business team.
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The doctor and the intermediary team did not pay much attention to the infection. From the beginning of the slight infection and inflammation, they felt that it was not a problem. The doctor did not want to be responsible, thinking that the intermediary team was responsible for the daily changing of gauze and disinfection. The intermediary team felt that it was the doctor’s job to deal with the infection and inflammation. Work. They pushed each other and were unwilling to deal with it, which eventually delayed the treatment, resulting in severe osteomyelitis, requiring amputation of necrotic bones and re-fixation of the external fixator.
The doctor and the business team only cooperate according to the order, and the doctor will stop asking the patient after the operation. The business team employs ordinary nurses to change gauze and take medicine for patients. But these nurses were lazy and changed the gauze of the patient once a week at most, leading to serious infections.
Because the business team receives the order, and then hires a doctor to perform the operation. After the operation is completed, the business team arranges the accommodation during the extended period, so that the business team can earn the accommodation fee. Since the accommodation is arranged by the business team, the nursing staff is also the business team. Employed, and these nurses basically know nothing about medical services.
The doctor only charged the money for the operation, he is not responsible for everything after the operation, the business team is responsible
In order to save money, the business team hires people with no medical care experience to take care of patients, and they are lazy, changing gauze only once every 5 days or a week, and giving patients anti-inflammatory drugs every 5 days.
The patient himself was inexperienced, completely unaware that there was a problem, and just waited, doing nothing, until a severe infection developed, leading to periostitis. In fact, if the patient realizes that the gauze and anti-inflammatory drugs should be changed every 2 days, he can change the gauze and take the medicine on time at home.
So, don't rely on the business team, don't trust any service they can give you, you are in charge of your legs and no one will care about your legs. If nursing staff is needed, let doctors hire nursing staff as much as possible, and let doctors earn this money, not business teams. In this way, the doctor is in charge, otherwise, the doctor will not be responsible for your infection during the extended period. If you feel that you live at home and change the gauze, dressing, and medication by yourself, then you should contact the doctor more and communicate with other patients, which is more useful than relying on the business team.
"But these nurses were lazy and changed the gauze of the patient once a week at most, leading to serious infections" imagine believing this nonsense. People can throw random pictures and make up stories. She/he couldnt even tell us the nurse's name or any employees names.
Yesterday I went to PT room to strech my hip flexors . All the stretchers were full except the stretcher where the dressing was done. I lay down on that stretcher and dangled my feet then the nurse came and asked me if I want my bandages to be changed eventhough my dressing was changed the day before yesterday. So I don't buy the "the bandages were changed once a week at most" fairy tale. Even my sheets are changed every morning...
When you lie about one thing you completely lose your ground all together.
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"But these nurses were lazy and changed the gauze of the patient once a week at most, leading to serious infections" imagine believing this nonsense. People can throw random pictures and make up stories. She/he couldnt even tell us the nurse's name or any employees names.
Yesterday I went to PT room to strech my hip flexors . All the stretchers were full except the stretcher where the dressing was done. I lay down on that stretcher and dangled my feet then the nurse came and asked me if I want my bandages to be changed eventhough my dressing was changed the day before yesterday. So I don't buy the "the bandages were changed once a week at most" fairy tale. Even my sheets are changed every morning...
When you lie about one thing you completely lose your ground all together.
Is it possible the procedures regarding bandage changes were different during the time they were there?
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"But these nurses were lazy and changed the gauze of the patient once a week at most, leading to serious infections" imagine believing this nonsense. People can throw random pictures and make up stories. She/he couldnt even tell us the nurse's name or any employees names.
Yesterday I went to PT room to strech my hip flexors . All the stretchers were full except the stretcher where the dressing was done. I lay down on that stretcher and dangled my feet then the nurse came and asked me if I want my bandages to be changed eventhough my dressing was changed the day before yesterday. So I don't buy the "the bandages were changed once a week at most" fairy tale. Even my sheets are changed every morning...
When you lie about one thing you completely lose your ground all together.
I don't believe he is lying. My friend is crippled because of Yuksel. He literally cant walk, had an infection and his tibia broke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUIqLesujLU&t=8s
He was treated very poorly by Fatma nurse, it is not acceptable such behavior from their side. Please avoid these clowns.
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I don't believe he is lying. My friend is crippled because of Yuksel. He literally cant walk, had an infection and his tibia broke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUIqLesujLU&t=8s
He was treated very poorly by Fatma nurse, it is not acceptable such behavior from their side. Please avoid these clowns.
Hello, I am currently doing it with Yukksel and I have heard a lot about this patient from other patients who were with him and the nurses. I'm not going into details for sake of patient privacy but everything is not what it seems from the videos if you catch my drift...
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Hello, I am currently doing it with Yukksel and I have heard a lot about this patient from other patients who were with him and the nurses. I'm not going into details for sake of patient privacy but everything is not what it seems from the videos if you catch my drift...
Don't tease us like that, at least give some general info.
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The doctor and the intermediary team did not pay much attention to the infection. From the beginning of the slight infection and inflammation, they felt that it was not a problem. The doctor did not want to be responsible, thinking that the intermediary team was responsible for the daily changing of gauze and disinfection. The intermediary team felt that it was the doctor’s job to deal with the infection and inflammation. Work. They pushed each other and were unwilling to deal with it, which eventually delayed the treatment, resulting in severe osteomyelitis, requiring amputation of necrotic bones and re-fixation of the external fixator.
The doctor and the business team only cooperate according to the order, and the doctor will stop asking the patient after the operation. The business team employs ordinary nurses to change gauze and take medicine for patients. But these nurses were lazy and changed the gauze of the patient once a week at most, leading to serious infections.
Because the business team receives the order, and then hires a doctor to perform the operation. After the operation is completed, the business team arranges the accommodation during the extended period, so that the business team can earn the accommodation fee. Since the accommodation is arranged by the business team, the nursing staff is also the business team. Employed, and these nurses basically know nothing about medical services.
The doctor only charged the money for the operation, he is not responsible for everything after the operation, the business team is responsible
In order to save money, the business team hires people with no medical care experience to take care of patients, and they are lazy, changing gauze only once every 5 days or a week, and giving patients anti-inflammatory drugs every 5 days.
The patient himself was inexperienced, completely unaware that there was a problem, and just waited, doing nothing, until a severe infection developed, leading to periostitis. In fact, if the patient realizes that the gauze and anti-inflammatory drugs should be changed every 2 days, he can change the gauze and take the medicine on time at home.
So, don't rely on the business team, don't trust any service they can give you, you are in charge of your legs and no one will care about your legs. If nursing staff is needed, let doctors hire nursing staff as much as possible, and let doctors earn this money, not business teams. In this way, the doctor is in charge, otherwise, the doctor will not be responsible for your infection during the extended period. If you feel that you live at home and change the gauze, dressing, and medication by yourself, then you should contact the doctor more and communicate with other patients, which is more useful than relying on the business team.
you are right, thank you very much
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"But these nurses were lazy and changed the gauze of the patient once a week at most, leading to serious infections" imagine believing this nonsense. People can throw random pictures and make up stories. She/he couldnt even tell us the nurse's name or any employees names.
Yesterday I went to PT room to strech my hip flexors . All the stretchers were full except the stretcher where the dressing was done. I lay down on that stretcher and dangled my feet then the nurse came and asked me if I want my bandages to be changed eventhough my dressing was changed the day before yesterday. So I don't buy the "the bandages were changed once a week at most" fairy tale. Even my sheets are changed every morning...
When you lie about one thing you completely lose your ground all together.
My WeChat chat history is the WeChat of the Wannabetaler staff, don’t you have their WeChat? If you need, I can push their account number to you, and you can ask them yourself. And why do I have to mention the nurse name aylis Taşkın? What I meant was that the nurse sometimes did not come to the hotel ,for example, she was sick and had the flu. At that time, Wannabetaller’s employees often had the flu and asked for leave, and the time for us to change the gauze would be extended, and I didn’t think my osteomyelitis has anything to do with how often the nurse changes the gauze as I haven't had an external wound infection before my leg suddenly swollen.
Then I don’t think it’s necessary for you to worry about infection and the frequency of changing gauze, because the doctor I’m treating now has exposed the dry needle tract on my leg without gauze wrapping, and the doctor told me that I don’t need to use gauze until the outer bracket is removed. Wrapped the needle and told me not to use Iodine to wipe off the hard scab on the needle site, it is the best natural protection, I can keep it for a few months after the stent is removed, if I always Clean the wound, I may be more susceptible to infection. He told me that Among his patients were children who had mud in their wounds and were also uninfected. Even if there is a trauma infection, it is not so easy to cause osteomyelitis. And even if osteomyelitis is treated quickly and correctly, it is difficult to become chronic osteomyelitis. You may sound unbelievable, but it turns out that the doctors and nurses at Wannabetaller are not medically knowledgeable enough to deal with a sudden bone infection, from what I told the doctor in Turkey my leg was red and swollen, I was running a fever, it could be a symptom of osteomyelitis, It needs to be cut to remove the pus as soon as possible, these Wannabetaller nurses and its doctors don't understand or don't pay attention, and when I told the Wannabetaller doctor that our country's doctors recommend debridement, yunus said I don't need any debridement The operation was not serious for me, Wannabetaller said that the doctors in my country did not have yunus to understand my condition, and told me that yunus is an experienced doctor who can heal my leg. 2 months later when my condition turned into chronic osteomyelitis, my country doctor and the treating doctor of another Yuksel patient agreed that I need to remove the nail because I missed the best time to clear the bacteria, which was already in the A biofilm formed on my nails, bacteria that couldn't be killed by antibiotics, and would hide on my nails and wait to repopulate when my resistance weakened. But both yunus and Yuksel thought that I didn’t need to take out the nails, they both thought that there were no bacteria in my legs, and my legs would be fine. By just after another 2 months, the chronic osteomyelitis really came back, and caused redness, swelling, pain and suppuration of the new site.
I was diagnosed in my country with nail infection osteomyelitis. What I am complaining here is that the owner of Wannabetaller and his doctor did not deal with it in time and correctly when they knew that I had early symptoms of osteomyelitis. There was a problem with their treatment methods. Draining pus and taking out the nails, only told me to use antibiotics, which caused me to miss the best time to completely clear the bacteria, and finally the bacteria remained in the legs before it became chronic osteomyelitis. If Wannabetaller and its doctors could be more professional when the early symptoms of osteomyelitis just appeared, and cleaned up the pus and nails for me in time, I might not become chronic osteomyelitis, this is my country The doctor said that my chronic osteomyelitis was due to my first infection not being treated quickly and correctly.
Wannabetaller's doctor believes that suppurative osteomyelitis without debridement and nail removal can only use antibiotics to remove all bacteria without recurrence. This is a adventurous treatment. Wannabetaller and it's doctors have been very clear on my journey from the initial leg swelling to festering pus to being diagnosed with Osteomyelitis and becoming Chronic Osteomyelitis. They confidently told me that my legs would not have any problems in the future, probably because they didn't know enough about chronic osteomyelitis.
I hope you can return to normal walking smoothly and then evaluate those intermediaries. I also thankfully thought my leg would be fine after the brace was removed until 3 months later my leg suddenly swelled up.
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I don't believe he is lying. My friend is crippled because of Yuksel. He literally cant walk, had an infection and his tibia broke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUIqLesujLU&t=8s
He was treated very poorly by Fatma nurse, it is not acceptable such behavior from their side. Please avoid these clowns.
Hi, how is he at the moment? Does he still have problems with walking and infection?
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Don't you understand that risks with Lon monorail are higher? especially infection?,why did you choose him ? Marketing?
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If you say that the infection is not caused by the frequency of gauze changes, when did the virus enter your legs? Is the intramedullary nail used during the operation contaminated by bacteria? Or is the pins of the external fixator used during the operation contaminated by bacteria? Or did your wound become infected with bacteria during the lengthening period? To clarify this issue, this is the most critical issue
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Hi, how is he at the moment? Does he still have problems with walking and infection?
he is crippled. cannot walk what so ever.
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Where is he, perhaps we can find hom a better surgeon to look at his case?
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Don't you understand that risks with Lon monorail are higher? especially infection?,why did you choose him ? Marketing?
Because before I went to the Wannabetaller team, I didn’t know that Wannabetaller would let patients promote the team on social platforms by reducing surgery fees and accommodation fees and giving patients rebates. Before I went to Wannabetaller, I met one of their patients named Moon through China’s Sina Weibo platform. She posted her recovery process diary in Wannabetaller’s WeChat group and social platforms every day and told me that Wannabetaller has no one be infected .Now I don’t think so! I sent the WeChat chat records with her before I went to Wannabetaller, I don’t know if you can understand. When I arrived at Wannabetaller's hotel, she showed me her calf Lon. She told me that Wannabetaller is a very good service team, so I did the surgery with confidence. After the operation, I found that Yuksel did not fulfill the promise before the operation, such as three extra needles in the knee but before operation he sail only two in the knee , the suture of the wound was rough, and I was delayed for 20 days when removing the stent, because Yuksel said that the boss of Wannabetaller did not make an appointment with him time and the operating room is busy. When I was in the extended period, several patients had a dispute with patient Moon in Wannabetaller’s WeChat group because of surgery problems, accusing her of making false publicity for the team, and one of the patients named Regina’s inner thigh had been repaired 4 times by Yuksel, she said She almost died on the operating table...and Moon lied about the Wannabetaller surgery in order to deceive the patient that the surgery was not painful, in fact the surgery was very painful, and at that time Wannabetaller lacked tramadol, a strong painkiller, which made it unbearable Painful patient is outraged, and Wannabetaller lied to patient about Yuksel's thigh Lon surgery was done from the knee which caused a girl named Mia to have sore knees that couldn't bend, and Moon got infected with Omicron after removing the stent Instead of staying in the hotel, go to the door of Mia's room to quarrel with him about infecting the patients who are in the extended period of the virus. In short, at that time, several patients had a fierce argument with the moon. Some patient told me she saw on wannabetaller's computer that Patient Moon earned 1,400 euros from my surgery, and moon’s surgery and accommodation costs were half that of other patients.The patient named regina was repaired 4 times because of the inferior materials purchased by Wannabetaller. She hoped that the team could compensate her, but the team not only did not compensate her, but also broke into her room in the middle of the night and demanded that she continue to pay the accommodation fee, otherwise it would be confiscated. Her extension tool, Wannabetaller's bosses tried to convince her to bring in new patients for Wannabetaller, bringing in one patient and giving her 1000 euros as compensation for her surgical mistakes. Regina said she rejected this ridiculous way of compensation! That night regina called the police because the extension tool was robbed by Wannabetaller's staff, and the next day regina moved out of the suffocatingly small and expensive hotel in Wannabetaller. If you need, I can recommend Regina's Wechat to you, and you can ask her about her experience in Wannabetaller. This is my Weibo: https://weibo.com/u/7384185539
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If you say that the infection is not caused by the frequency of gauze changes, when did the virus enter your legs? Is the intramedullary nail used during the operation contaminated by bacteria? Or is the pins of the external fixator used during the operation contaminated by bacteria? Or did your wound become infected with bacteria during the lengthening period? To clarify this issue, this is the most critical issue
My leg had no symptoms of trauma infection until the swelling appeared at the broken bone at July 8. Physicians other than yunus and Yuksel thought the nails were carrying bacteria that caused the infection. Because of the small number of bacteria, the role of my resistance, it did not attack early.
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Because before I went to the Wannabetaller team, I didn’t know that Wannabetaller would let patients promote the team on social platforms by reducing surgery fees and accommodation fees and giving patients rebates. Before I went to Wannabetaller, I met one of their patients named Moon through China’s Sina Weibo platform. She posted her recovery process diary in Wannabetaller’s WeChat group and social platforms every day and told me that Wannabetaller has no one be infected .Now I don’t think so! I sent the WeChat chat records with her before I went to Wannabetaller, I don’t know if you can understand. When I arrived at Wannabetaller's hotel, she showed me her calf Lon. She told me that Wannabetaller is a very good service team, so I did the surgery with confidence. After the operation, I found that Yuksel did not fulfill the promise before the operation, such as three extra needles in the knee but before operation he sail only two in the knee , the suture of the wound was rough, and I was delayed for 20 days when removing the stent, because Yuksel said that the boss of Wannabetaller did not make an appointment with him time and the operating room is busy. When I was in the extended period, several patients had a dispute with patient Moon in Wannabetaller’s WeChat group because of surgery problems, accusing her of making false publicity for the team, and one of the patients named Regina’s inner thigh had been repaired 4 times by Yuksel, she said She almost died on the operating table...and Moon lied about the Wannabetaller surgery in order to deceive the patient that the surgery was not painful, in fact the surgery was very painful, and at that time Wannabetaller lacked tramadol, a strong painkiller, which made it unbearable Painful patient is outraged, and Wannabetaller lied to patient about Yuksel's thigh Lon surgery was done from the knee which caused a girl named Mia to have sore knees that couldn't bend, and Moon got infected with Omicron after removing the stent Instead of staying in the hotel, go to the door of Mia's room to quarrel with him about infecting the patients who are in the extended period of the virus. In short, at that time, several patients had a fierce argument with the moon. Some patient told me she saw on wannabetaller's computer that Patient Moon earned 1,400 euros from my surgery, and moon’s surgery and accommodation costs were half that of other patients.The patient named regina was repaired 4 times because of the inferior materials purchased by Wannabetaller. She hoped that the team could compensate her, but the team not only did not compensate her, but also broke into her room in the middle of the night and demanded that she continue to pay the accommodation fee, otherwise it would be confiscated. Her extension tool, Wannabetaller's bosses tried to convince her to bring in new patients for Wannabetaller, bringing in one patient and giving her 1000 euros as compensation for her surgical mistakes. Regina said she rejected this ridiculous way of compensation! That night regina called the police because the extension tool was robbed by Wannabetaller's staff, and the next day regina moved out of the suffocatingly small and expensive hotel in Wannabetaller. If you need, I can recommend Regina's Wechat to you, and you can ask her about her experience in Wannabetaller. This is my Weibo: https://weibo.com/u/7384185539
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Send me Regina'wechat,I want to talk with her,I was planning to Turkey,but your story made me think about it again
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Sorry, it's my first time using this software. Because I have been hospitalized and I don’t have a computer, I asked someone who are also unfamiliar with this software to post the pictures and edited text for me. If I can modify it when I go home after I leave the hospital, I will write the date or explanation after each picture, but this post does not seem to allow modification of the content, so I can only add new content by replying.
My first operation was on January 1, 2022, and the stent was removed on April 5. On the night of July 7, I suddenly felt cold and had a fever and my legs had no strength. When I woke up on July 8, I found that my leg was broken. The bone was bulging, I contacted Wannabetaller immediately, they asked me to contact Yuksel myself, Yuksel said he was on vacation and asked me to wait for him for 5 days to come back to see him, on July 10 the swelling burst and a lot of pus came out... …July 11 I went to Yuksel’s emergency department but got no useful treatment, July 14wannabetaller asked me to see yunus, July 20yunus told me the diagnosis was osteomyelitis, told me that I could use gentamicin for 6 weeks, I Intravenous infusion was chosen for faster infection control. However, because Yunus did not recommend debridement surgery, the pus bacteria in my wound were not completely killed by antibiotics. On September 1, I visited Yunus again, and he diagnosed chronic osteomyelitis. I asked Wannabetaller to replace me with a more experienced osteomyelitis doctor and asked for debridement, Wannabetaller refused. So I chose to return home for treatment. I visited Yuksel before returning home and he said my tests showed nothing wrong with my legs and no bacteria. Before going to visit Yuksel, he said that if it is necessary to remove the nails, he will remove them for me and clean the wound as long as I pay for the surgery, but in the end he said that there is no problem with my test and there is no need to remove the nails. So I went back to my country, but on the way back to my country, my knees started to be red, swollen and painful... I took antibiotics for a month, and after 3 days of stopping the antibiotics, the redness turned into pustules that were about to explode! On oct 24th my knees and lower lock nails started to be red, swollen and painful, i have been on antibiotics and have been to several doctors in different hospitals and they all think i need to have my nails removed because i still have bacteria in my legs and they Let my osteomyelitis relapse. I was hospitalized on the night of 11/28, had nails removed, external fixator was put on 11/29, and antibiotics were dripped through the opening in the knee to flush the bone, antibiotics were poured through the ankle, IV vancomycin, rinsed After 3 weeks, the doctor first removed the tube in the knee, and then removed the tube in the ankle a few days later. Now my knee wound is so painful that I can't walk.
Thanks for your reply.
Your post has a mix of Dr. Yuksel and Dr. Yunus and I would like to know the doctor responsible for each surgery.
Perhaps Dr. Yuksel is the doctor for the first surgery in Jan 2022?
Secondly, which doctor removed the external fixator in April 2022, Dr. Yuksel or Yunus?
Which doctor examined you from July 11 until you returned to your country, Dr. Yuksel or Yunus?
Or did you see both doctors?
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Thanks for your reply.
Your post has a mix of Dr. Yuksel and Dr. Yunus and I would like to know the doctor responsible for each surgery.
Perhaps Dr. Yuksel is the doctor for the first surgery in Jan 2022?
Secondly, which doctor removed the external fixator in April 2022, Dr. Yuksel or Yunus?
Which doctor examined you from July 11 until you returned to your country, Dr. Yuksel or Yunus?
Or did you see both doctors?
From January 1 to April 5, 2022, my surgery and removal of external fixation doctors were Yuksel. When the infection occurred on July 8th, the doctor who had returned and exploited to the sputum prescription from September 1st was Yunus. They are doctors working with Wannabetaller, Yuksel actually terminates cooperation during my first operation, Yunus is a new working doctor in Wannabetaller. These two doctors are very clear about my infection process. My first surgery was on January 1, 2022, and the outer holder was removed by Yuksel on April 5, 2022. When I first surgically, Wannabetaller concealed them and Yuksel has terminated the facts of cooperation, deceiving me, they will have been working together, I should have removed the outer fixtures on March 15, because they communicated out problems, resulting in delaying 20 days to remove my outer fixtures. On July 8, I told Wannabetaller my bone position swollen and had a fever. They told me because they and Yuksel had already terminated their cooperation, I need to contact Yuksel, when I contact Yuksel Speaking of me waiting for him to visit him on July 13th holiday. Wannabetaller said their new doctors Yunus is also on holiday. On July 10, the swelling broke out of a large amount of pus. I went to the Turkish doctor in the emergency department and didn't matter. They told me that this should go to my surgeon to handle it, then they only call me to buy antibiotics. On July 11th, I went to the emergency department of Yuksel's hospital. I waited for 2 hours, an internship doctor digging my wound with and then bandage, which led to the next day my wound become big, I also paid 600 Lira for this. If I need to be hospitalized, I have to pay 3000 lira one day, and they didn't tell me any treatment plan. They used the pus to flow into the bone chamber in the way if they were wounded in the mouth. This is very stupid! YUKSEL did not arrange a professional duty doctor to deal with the wound, so I was very disappointed with Yuksel! On July 14th, Wannabetaller's housekeeper called the driver to send me to visit Yunus, Yunus sticking my wound pus to make bacteria cultivation, call me 5 days later, I will go back to find him. During this period, I can continue oral antibiotics. On July 20, I saw Yunus again. I was confirmed to have osteomyelitis. He told me to use 2 antibiotics for 6 weeks, a gentamicin injection, one It is dripped in the wound surface to the rifamycin injection. But he said that I am not serious, don't need a wound cleanup, he didn't do the most important thing, this is a wrong treatment decision, because the bacteria on the nails cannot be completely killed by antibiotics, but Yunus said I will not have problems. However, 2 months have passed. When I went to Yunus on September 1, I was diagnosed with chronic osteomyelitis. Even so, he still said that I don't need to take out the nails, I don't need to clean the wound. Bacteria, do not need to use antibiotics, he said that the bacteria did not spread, he said that I will not have problems in the future, even if my wound is still a small hole exudates liquid, he said that I can take a shower for the wound. I asked Wannabetaller to replace other doctors who were good at treating osteomyelitis, but they refused. Wannabetaller and Yunus will no longer reply to my news! I went to Yuksel in August. He said that I don't need to clean my leg, and at this time, the other 2 patients of Yuksel qiang Tang and JIN GE The legs are infected, and they have a purulent in red, and fortunately they have left Turkey and have been rapid and effective treatment. It has been recovered. They showed the video of my leg pus to their treatment doctor. Their treatment doctor believes that you need to clean up the wound and remove the nails, because I missed the best cleaning of wound time, bacteria have spread in the nails, clean the wound is very Important, but yunus doesn't think so, so I hope that Yuksel can clean up the wound, but when I went to Yuksel in August, he didn't just clean the wound, but also covered it. I stopped using antibiotics, he said Yunus's inspection report is not accurate, it is not worthless, my situation is not so bad. Yunus think that I don't have to clean up my wound, but if I listen Yuksel, I think I will become chronic myelitis. Finally, my wound has not healed, Yuksel is facing reality, he told me to find him to check, he can take out the nails for me to clean up the wound, I only need to pay the operating fee. When I went to his hospital, he said that I didn't have to take out the nails, he thought that my leg did not infect. I have reviewed a lot of information. I believe that there is a bacteria in my leg. I will no longer believe in the level of the doctor of Wannabetaller, I don't believe they can treat my leg, so I decided to return to China. When I was returning to China, chronic myelitis was recurred. Finally, I listened to the advice of Chinese doctor had to take out the nails, with an antibiotic solution, I have already stayed in the hospital for 1 month 7 days. I hope that it doesn't relapse it after treatment.
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We in Wannabetaller Team would like to indicate that we are aware of the allegations that have been made and the identity of the patient spreading them, but in respect of the personal information protection confidentiality policy that we strictly follow towards all patients, we will remain committed to preserving the confidentiality and information of the patient making these allegations.
First of all, we would like to clarify that we are always committed to providing the same amount of medical care and a direct follow-up to all patients on an equal basis, in addition to frequent visits for the purpose of medical examination by the doctor supervising the case, and as a result, patients, in general, are obliged to allocate a period that lasts between five to six months for recovery, especially patients who prefer the LON device for lengthening, and whom we always recommend to stay under our supervision for at least three to four weeks after the end of their lengthening period
The reason for this is the presence of wounds that have not yet healed, which requires the patient to take extreme care while changing the dressings for these wounds periodically.
In addition to the significance of the patient's commitment to the necessary physical therapy sessions, which the patient must continue to obtain after the end of the lengthening period, as it is one of the most important factors in restoring the patient's ability to move and restoring the natural range of motion.
Unfortunately, our patient, who was previously mentioned above, and despite the fact that her lengthening period has not yet ended at the time, insisted on leaving the hotel ’’our official partner'' in which our patients reside, and insisted on staying in another residence separately and outside the scope of our follow-up of his health condition and development
And as a result of the patient's strong insistence on performing the operation to remove the external fixator at a time when hospital appointments, operating rooms, and doctor’s appointments were not appropriate and full of pre-booked operations, we informed the patient that in order for her surgery to be performed, she must wait for a short period in order to schedule the operation appropriately, but Our patient insisted on not waiting, which made us go above and beyond and do our best to provide a date for the operation that matches the patient's desire to perform it as soon as possible, and this is what was done.
But by virtue of the patient's return to his own residence of her own free will and outside the scope of our follow-up and his insistence on moving away from our direct care and the patient's failure to adhere to the basic conditions for sterilization, disinfection, and post-removal care, as explained, and despite our company's efforts to provide support and care to the patient, not forgetting to mention that the patient was not cooperative with us in this field.
This is what inevitably led to infections due to the reasons that were previously indicated and which were outside the scope of our company’s responsibility, powers, or realistic scope of effectiveness, in addition to the patient’s delay in informing us of the infection in its infancy, but on the contrary, we were informed after the infection had reached an advanced degree
In this regard, and as soon as we were informed of the patient’s condition at the time, our company did not hesitate to make any possible effort represented in securing medical follow-up, providing means of treatment, or supervising the condition in order to improve it, based on the work ethics followed and on which we build in our dealing with our patients.
It must be clearly and explicitly noted that bone infection of the degree that has been noticed cannot be produced overnight, on the contrary, any similar infection in the bone is generally caused by negligence, inaction, and non-compliance with the rules of medical sterilization of existing wound dressings. And it takes a period ranging from two to three months for a superficial infection to develop into osteomyelitis
By following up on the timeline of the incident, it can be observed clearly that the onset of infection occurred after the removal of the external fixator, with a period ranging from one month to a month and a half.
During that period, the patient did not receive any medical services from us
We hope that the patient would have understood the extent of the company's commitment to acting in favor of her best health interest and showed cooperation regarding the standards that have been set to maintain her health and well-being.
In addition, the patient, according to her personal decision and contrary to the medical instructions given to her clearly and explicitly by the doctor and physiotherapist, and despite her body reaching its maximum limits in lengthening by seven centimeters, and despite all of the aforementioned warnings, she continued the lengthening procedure, secretly and unannounced, as turned out later.
Our aim is not to prolong the polemic, but only to reflect the story from our side in a short and concise way.
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Wow, 😆,now this history is going to be interesting.go on ,man.
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What happened to the Looksmaxing guy?
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Send me Regina'wechat,I want to talk with her,I was planning to Turkey,but your story made me think about it again
She said her WeChat was private and didn't want to add too many strangers. But you can join her WeChat group of Turkish victims and chat with her. You add my WeChat pigggg0, and I pull you into the Turkish victim WeChat group she created, and you can chat with her in the group.
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From January 1 to April 5, 2022, my surgery and removal of external fixation doctors were Yuksel. When the infection occurred on July 8th, the doctor who had returned and exploited to the sputum prescription from September 1st was Yunus. They are doctors working with Wannabetaller, Yuksel actually terminates cooperation during my first operation, Yunus is a new working doctor in Wannabetaller. These two doctors are very clear about my infection process. My first surgery was on January 1, 2022, and the outer holder was removed by Yuksel on April 5, 2022. When I first surgically, Wannabetaller concealed them and Yuksel has terminated the facts of cooperation, deceiving me, they will have been working together, I should have removed the outer fixtures on March 15, because they communicated out problems, resulting in delaying 20 days to remove my outer fixtures. On July 8, I told Wannabetaller my bone position swollen and had a fever. They told me because they and Yuksel had already terminated their cooperation, I need to contact Yuksel, when I contact Yuksel Speaking of me waiting for him to visit him on July 13th holiday. Wannabetaller said their new doctors Yunus is also on holiday. On July 10, the swelling broke out of a large amount of pus. I went to the Turkish doctor in the emergency department and didn't matter. They told me that this should go to my surgeon to handle it, then they only call me to buy antibiotics. On July 11th, I went to the emergency department of Yuksel's hospital. I waited for 2 hours, an internship doctor digging my wound with and then bandage, which led to the next day my wound become big, I also paid 600 Lira for this. If I need to be hospitalized, I have to pay 3000 lira one day, and they didn't tell me any treatment plan. They used the pus to flow into the bone chamber in the way if they were wounded in the mouth. This is very stupid! YUKSEL did not arrange a professional duty doctor to deal with the wound, so I was very disappointed with Yuksel! On July 14th, Wannabetaller's housekeeper called the driver to send me to visit Yunus, Yunus sticking my wound pus to make bacteria cultivation, call me 5 days later, I will go back to find him. During this period, I can continue oral antibiotics. On July 20, I saw Yunus again. I was confirmed to have osteomyelitis. He told me to use 2 antibiotics for 6 weeks, a gentamicin injection, one It is dripped in the wound surface to the rifamycin injection. But he said that I am not serious, don't need a wound cleanup, he didn't do the most important thing, this is a wrong treatment decision, because the bacteria on the nails cannot be completely killed by antibiotics, but Yunus said I will not have problems. However, 2 months have passed. When I went to Yunus on September 1, I was diagnosed with chronic osteomyelitis. Even so, he still said that I don't need to take out the nails, I don't need to clean the wound. Bacteria, do not need to use antibiotics, he said that the bacteria did not spread, he said that I will not have problems in the future, even if my wound is still a small hole exudates liquid, he said that I can take a shower for the wound. I asked Wannabetaller to replace other doctors who were good at treating osteomyelitis, but they refused. Wannabetaller and Yunus will no longer reply to my news! I went to Yuksel in August. He said that I don't need to clean my leg, and at this time, the other 2 patients of Yuksel qiang Tang and JIN GE The legs are infected, and they have a purulent in red, and fortunately they have left Turkey and have been rapid and effective treatment. It has been recovered. They showed the video of my leg pus to their treatment doctor. Their treatment doctor believes that you need to clean up the wound and remove the nails, because I missed the best cleaning of wound time, bacteria have spread in the nails, clean the wound is very Important, but yunus doesn't think so, so I hope that Yuksel can clean up the wound, but when I went to Yuksel in August, he didn't just clean the wound, but also covered it. I stopped using antibiotics, he said Yunus's inspection report is not accurate, it is not worthless, my situation is not so bad. Yunus think that I don't have to clean up my wound, but if I listen Yuksel, I think I will become chronic myelitis. Finally, my wound has not healed, Yuksel is facing reality, he told me to find him to check, he can take out the nails for me to clean up the wound, I only need to pay the operating fee. When I went to his hospital, he said that I didn't have to take out the nails, he thought that my leg did not infect. I have reviewed a lot of information. I believe that there is a bacteria in my leg. I will no longer believe in the level of the doctor of Wannabetaller, I don't believe they can treat my leg, so I decided to return to China. When I was returning to China, chronic myelitis was recurred. Finally, I listened to the advice of Chinese doctor had to take out the nails, with an antibiotic solution, I have already stayed in the hospital for 1 month 7 days. I hope that it doesn't relapse it after treatment.
I understand that you failed to see Yuksel himself on July 11 and that you subsequently received inappropriate treatment from Yunus.
I also found out that you were not given an appropriate policy regarding chronic osteomyelitis by Yuksel in August.
So, if your story is true, then both Yuksel and Yunus are incompetent doctors.
I wish you a speedy recovery.
Below are additional questions.
(1) On March 15th, what was the problem you thought the external fixator should be removed?
(2) Did two other patients of Yuksel (qiang Tang and JIN GE) also have osteomyelitis?
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We in Wannabetaller Team would like to indicate that we are aware of the allegations that have been made and the identity of the patient spreading them, but in respect of the personal information protection confidentiality policy that we strictly follow towards all patients, we will remain committed to preserving the confidentiality and information of the patient making these allegations.
First of all, we would like to clarify that we are always committed to providing the same amount of medical care and a direct follow-up to all patients on an equal basis, in addition to frequent visits for the purpose of medical examination by the doctor supervising the case, and as a result, patients, in general, are obliged to allocate a period that lasts between five to six months for recovery, especially patients who prefer the LON device for lengthening, and whom we always recommend to stay under our supervision for at least three to four weeks after the end of their lengthening period
The reason for this is the presence of wounds that have not yet healed, which requires the patient to take extreme care while changing the dressings for these wounds periodically.
In addition to the significance of the patient's commitment to the necessary physical therapy sessions, which the patient must continue to obtain after the end of the lengthening period, as it is one of the most important factors in restoring the patient's ability to move and restoring the natural range of motion.
Unfortunately, our patient, who was previously mentioned above, and despite the fact that her lengthening period has not yet ended at the time, insisted on leaving the hotel ’’our official partner'' in which our patients reside, and insisted on staying in another residence separately and outside the scope of our follow-up of his health condition and development
And as a result of the patient's strong insistence on performing the operation to remove the external fixator at a time when hospital appointments, operating rooms, and doctor’s appointments were not appropriate and full of pre-booked operations, we informed the patient that in order for her surgery to be performed, she must wait for a short period in order to schedule the operation appropriately, but Our patient insisted on not waiting, which made us go above and beyond and do our best to provide a date for the operation that matches the patient's desire to perform it as soon as possible, and this is what was done.
But by virtue of the patient's return to his own residence of her own free will and outside the scope of our follow-up and his insistence on moving away from our direct care and the patient's failure to adhere to the basic conditions for sterilization, disinfection, and post-removal care, as explained, and despite our company's efforts to provide support and care to the patient, not forgetting to mention that the patient was not cooperative with us in this field.
This is what inevitably led to infections due to the reasons that were previously indicated and which were outside the scope of our company’s responsibility, powers, or realistic scope of effectiveness, in addition to the patient’s delay in informing us of the infection in its infancy, but on the contrary, we were informed after the infection had reached an advanced degree
In this regard, and as soon as we were informed of the patient’s condition at the time, our company did not hesitate to make any possible effort represented in securing medical follow-up, providing means of treatment, or supervising the condition in order to improve it, based on the work ethics followed and on which we build in our dealing with our patients.
It must be clearly and explicitly noted that bone infection of the degree that has been noticed cannot be produced overnight, on the contrary, any similar infection in the bone is generally caused by negligence, inaction, and non-compliance with the rules of medical sterilization of existing wound dressings. And it takes a period ranging from two to three months for a superficial infection to develop into osteomyelitis
By following up on the timeline of the incident, it can be observed clearly that the onset of infection occurred after the removal of the external fixator, with a period ranging from one month to a month and a half.
During that period, the patient did not receive any medical services from us
We hope that the patient would have understood the extent of the company's commitment to acting in favor of her best health interest and showed cooperation regarding the standards that have been set to maintain her health and well-being.
In addition, the patient, according to her personal decision and contrary to the medical instructions given to her clearly and explicitly by the doctor and physiotherapist, and despite her body reaching its maximum limits in lengthening by seven centimeters, and despite all of the aforementioned warnings, she continued the lengthening procedure, secretly and unannounced, as turned out later.
Our aim is not to prolong the polemic, but only to reflect the story from our side in a short and concise way.
When I was in their hotel to now, everything they said here had never told me, and now they are beginning to shape their hypocritical appearance again. I really tired of them always like this.If I haven’t return to the country for treatment, and if I had not been exposed to doctors other than Wannabetaller, I might believe these nonsense. Don't think that I don't love my legs so much, don't think you are medical experts, if you are I will not have chronic osteomyelitis! Every time the nurse changes the dressing, it is only wiped with iodophor and then wrapped with gauze ,who couldn’t do such job? The nurse didn't change the gauze when she got cold. I never said these. I will not ignorantly associate my osteomyelitis with a piece of gauze. I love my legs more than anyone else. Do you think I will wait for it to rot into the bones after a wound infection? It turns out that you do not understand the treatment of osteomyelitis or the cause of osteomyelitis and disguise you as a medical expert, just to get rid of your responsibility. I did n’t have a traumatic infection until my fracture swelled. I always wonder if Wannabetaller's doctors and doctors in other countries read the same books at college, because their medical views vary widely! The entrance of the external fixation rack installed by my current doctor has no gauze, and the junction of nails and skin is completely exposed. I uploaded a photo. The doctors here told me that they had a lot of orthopedic surgery. When the wound was dry, they no longer wrapped gauze and cleaned the wound, completely exposing the wound until the external fixing frame was removed. They thought that clean the natural protective layer of the wound would be more likely to cause infection. They told me that the needles for some child patients to return to the clinic were dust and dirt, but they were not infected. It is not so easy to infect the bones through a trauma. It can be stopped before the infection enters the bone. It can be cured even if osteomyelitis occurs. Chronic osteomyelitis is caused by improper treatment during acute osteomyelitis. Wannabetaller propaganda that they can provide rental services for patients. The lengthening time does not have to live in their hotel. When you leave their hotel, they will say nothing. When you have problems with your legs, they start to say that it is because you do not live in their hotel and have nothing to do with them.Do n’t you think this will be contradictory and cunning? If your responsibilities and services are terminated at the patient leaving your hotel, please tell them clearly before the money you collect from the patient. That’s why when the patient leaves the hotel, You never care about the recovery of the patient's legs because you think the patient who left the hotel has nothing to do with you. I suggest that the patients who are still at the hotel in Wannbetaller will leave their hotel 2 years later to ensure that your legs can walk normally before nail removal.
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They praised that they were the only legal and best intermediaries in Turkey for formal medical services. They didn’t give me contracts and invoices after the operation. They not only evaded taxes also never intended to bear the legal responsibility of the patient after the accident. Before I had the remove operation, they concealed that they had terminated the cooperative relationship with Yuksel. During my waiting for removal, I found that they had serious communication problems. I waited for 20 days ,before other patients only wait 3 to 7 days most . After my leg was swollen, they asked me to contact Yuksel myself. They hadn't taken me to Yuksel, and they hadn't communicated with Yuksel's condition. Wannabetaller were only willing to understand my condition through their Yunus and never wanted to check my legs in reality. I visited 4 times Yunus every time he would only say that my wound was Good, every time he told me that there was no need to clean the wound, and the bacteria would not spread ... Other doctors thought that my infection came from operation. Because of the small number bacterial and my resistance, they accumulated for a long time before they broke out. On July 8th, bones were swollen and painful. On July 10, a large amount of pus exploded from the complete skin. Even like this Yunus believed that there was no need to clean the wound and remove the nail and antibiotics could treat purulent osteomyelitis. This caused osteomyelitis to eventually become chronic osteomyelitis. They still thought that I did not need to remove the nail to clean the wound. In the end, I could only choose to return to China for treatment. From July 8th to November 29th, I have been using antibiotics to control my condition. On November 29th, when my knee was swollen and painful and the pus was about to flow, the local doctor took out my nails. During the operation, they cleaned up the pus in the bone marrow and the wound. Then the doctor rinsed my bone marrow cavity with antibiotics for 24hours every day until 4 weeks .And continued intravenous infusion vancomycin antibiotics and medicine to strengthen the bones .I hospitalized for 37 days and spent more than 10,000 euros for treat this chronic osteomyelitis, but the doctor still could not guarantee that it would not recur in the future because it was chronic osteomyelitis. I could only live carefully in the future.
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Here I attached the after-sales attitude of physical extensions in another country. When they saw in Chinese news that their patients were reported to be disabled, they immediately contacted the patients themselves. They would not think that the patients who had left their hospital and left their country had nothing to do with them. They think they should be responsible no matter where the patient is. When the patients who have left their country, they regularly contact each patient to ask about their legs and care about the recovery of their legs. I stayed in their hotel on November 25, 2021, removed the bracket on April 4, 2022, and left their hotel on April 10 to get a better living environment and diet, because their hotels were very small windows and could not be opened. This environment suffocated and suppressed me, and the wheelchairs could not move in the room. I could not cook .Only unhealthy takeaway junk food without nutrition. I always so carefully about my legs.I took a bath on my calf two months after removal surgery that was late enough .I did n’t smoke or eat peppers, and there was no urinary tract infection in my throat. Until July 8th, my fracture suddenly swelled and I had a fever. I contacted wannabetaller for the first time. You can look at the WeChat chat record I posted before. They told me that I could apply the sprained potion and wait for it to recover. Imagine if I stayed in their hotel after removing the outer holder, even if my legs were swollen and infected in the hotel, they would not deal with it, because no one knew it should be cut, so with their narrow medical knowledge and their ignorance of osteomyelitis and refusal to surgical wounds and remove nails, I can imagine even if I stayed in their hotel, I believe I will still have chronic osteomyelitis! I posted this post just to tell people: Wannabetaller and its doctors' medical knowledge is not enough to treat bone infections, and their medical knowledge is not enough to cope with the accident after this operation. In fact, this osteomyelitis is not incurable, but Wannabetaller and its doctors have made osteomyelitis develop into chronic osteomyelitis and still do not want to remove nails, which led to my legs. Repeated appearance of swelling, pain and pus. And getting rid of responsibility in Wannabetaller's service seems to be more important than healing patients' legs. They have always said that it was because I left their hotel that the fracture was swollen and pus. They never thought that actually my osteomyelitis could have been cured, but because of their ignorance and self-ambition, I became chronic osteomyelitis! I mentioned earlier that the other two patients who returned to China after removing the external fixation after 3 months of removal. They still had swelling and pain in the fracture. Their names are Qiangtang and Jin Ge, I hoped that Wannabetaller would explain, why did they still have internal infections after returning to the hotel for 3 months after removing the stent? Is the infection also because they left your hotel? Jin Ge On August 7th, Qiangtang had swelling and pain and Infection in the fracture like me on August 26. I would like to mention that they all lived in W's hotel after removing the stent for more than 3 months before returning to home . They only lengthened 5 cm, but their broken bones still had symptoms of swelling and pain like me .Fortunately, they did not receive yunus’s treatment. Their local doctor cleared the wound during the swelling period, and they were discharged from the hospital in September. I uploaded a picture of the legs of these two patients with redness and swelling. . I also uploaded a picture of qiangtang's wound after cleaning operation, which used to be a lot of pus in it. Her doctor told me that Yunus's method for treating my legs was not right,because she cleaned the wound very quickly and thoroughly, so she did not need to take out her nails can to be cured, and her doctor watched my wound and pus video and thought that Yunus should clean up the wound for me. It is best to take out the nails because I missed the most useful time to clean the wound, but Yunus still insisted that my leg do not need cleaning the wound, he said that I had squeezed out the pus and told me that the bacteria would not spread, they would be killed by antibiotics, and there would be no problems in the future. When my leg again was red and swollen on October 25, the pain prevented me from walking normally. The swelling at the day before I took out my nails became a pustule that was about to explode.
Think about Regina, Mia ,Edy, Shirly, Qiangtang, Jin Ge, and me, our legs. Only patients who have really seen the true face of Wannabetaller can have such a deep understanding. If I have experienced infection and healed 6 months ago ,you will not see this post. At last,even if my legs are eventually healed in China, I will never forget this experience, and I will not choose to be silent like other patients to forget these unpleasant experiences!
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I understand that you failed to see Yuksel himself on July 11 and that you subsequently received inappropriate treatment from Yunus.
I also found out that you were not given an appropriate policy regarding chronic osteomyelitis by Yuksel in August.
So, if your story is true, then both Yuksel and Yunus are incompetent doctors.
I wish you a speedy recovery.
Below are additional questions.
(1) On March 15th, what was the problem you thought the external fixator should be removed?
(2) Did two other patients of Yuksel (qiang Tang and JIN GE) also have osteomyelitis?
1. Because I didn't want to extend it at that time, I wanted to remove the external holder because it was not comfortable.
2. There was a bacterial infection in their legs. The local doctor quickly cut the swelled , cleared the pus and the infected tissue. I saw that the girl's wound was deep enough to see the bones and nail, but her doctor said that because the wound was cleaned quickly and thoroughly, she had not been infected with the bone, but she said that her ankle was red and swollen also during the hospitalization. The doctor treated it. In September, they said they were fine. I thought even if they were osteomyelitis, they have been cured not like me.
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Very sorry that happened to you and praying for your recovery !
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土耳其民族是个没有底线的民族，在加上中国同胞这些没有底线的low逼。。真的恶心到我
希望你能尽快恢复别留下什么残疾
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1. Because I didn't want to extend it at that time, I wanted to remove the external holder because it was not comfortable.
2. There was a bacterial infection in their legs. The local doctor quickly cut the swelled , cleared the pus and the infected tissue. I saw that the girl's wound was deep enough to see the bones and nail, but her doctor said that because the wound was cleaned quickly and thoroughly, she had not been infected with the bone, but she said that her ankle was red and swollen also during the hospitalization. The doctor treated it. In September, they said they were fine. I thought even if they were osteomyelitis, they have been cured not like me.
thank you for answering.
I understood that they also had a deep infection, but they were cured with debridement and other treatments.
I hope your osteomyelitis heals too.
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Wishing you a fast recovery and thank you for sharing. Happy new year!
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土耳其民族是个没有底线的民族，在加上中国同胞这些没有底线的low逼。。真的恶心到我
希望你能尽快恢复别留下什么残疾
谢谢我会积极治疗
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thank you for answering.
I understood that they also had a deep infection, but they were cured with debridement and other treatments.
I hope your osteomyelitis heals too.
Thank you, I also hope it will
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Wishing you a fast recovery and thank you for sharing. Happy new year!
Thank you, Happy New Year
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Very sorry that happened to you and praying for your recovery !
Thank you, I hope I will
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I hope you are well. This company needs to be shut down immediately >:( You will get through this.
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Is there any improvement about your condition?
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Is there any improvement about your condition?
I've been out of the hospital and now I'm waiting for the callus to heal to have the external fixator removed. The two places that were swollen and oozing pus before are still red and itchy. I hope there will be no recurrence in the future.
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Thank you for sharing the true face of this company. I hope it will be a lesson to people and they will become wiser. They are not deceived by fake accounts and diary. I hope you get well soon. I will wait for your recovery update.
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Get well soon :-[
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I don't understand how people still go to this company.
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I've been out of the hospital and now I'm waiting for the callus to heal to have the external fixator removed. The two places that were swollen and oozing pus before are still red and itchy. I hope there will be no recurrence in the future.
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Hey,
I have a question. Dr. Yuksel Yurtash doesn't work as a doctor at Wannabetaller, does he? He works in Esencan Hospital in Istanbul and when he operates his patients they come in a hotel called "MyHouse N5 Suites" in their own private room. In this hotel he has his own physiotherapy team and tools that are always there if something happens. You are in your own room with the physiotherapists for 3 months, 5 times a week, X-Rays every 14 days, Changing bandages regularly and all necessary medications etc.
In which hospital or in which hotel were you accommodated?
I'm really sorry for you. I hope you get well soon.
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anyone new informations?
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"when she was busy she changed bandages every 5 days or every week" what was her name? I's been almost 1.5 months for me staying at wannabetaller's rehab and I have never seen a single infection case. Also everyone's bandages are changed every 2 days. I don't want to call you a liar but saying that dressings were changed once a week sound straight a lie.
To someone with a bone infection! How can you write this to someone who is in this situation? You're the whore of the Wannabetaller ! You still shamelessly defend this company. I think you are the wife of Dr Yunus.
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To someone with a bone infection! How can you write this to someone who is in this situation? You're the whore of the Wannabetaller ! You still shamelessly defend this company. I think you are the wife of Dr Yunus.
Ok it is quite obvious he is wbt promoter judging from his response to defend them. His diary is obvious bs.
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I was hospitalized again for surgery because the way the medullary cavity was flushed three months ago did not clear up the chronic osteomyelitis. Spect detected I still have an infection in my leg! And the bone that osteomyelitis dissolves has not grown for more than 8 months.
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this is very disappointing and sad >:( >:(, i am so sorry for your failure with LL. I have been considering doing my surgery with Dr. Yurttas since from what I understand he had disassociated himself with WannaBeTaller, but faced with this situation, I am seriously considering discarding Yurttas and going with Becker to Germany.
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This time they removed the infected bone and soft tissue and put in artificial bone with antibiotics. Let's hope it works this time. I still want to say that the wannabetaller team, Yuksel and Yunus have disabled many of our Chinese patients because of their ignorance and irresponsibility, severe common peroneal nerve injury, tendon necrosis, nonunion, x and o deformed legs, and genu valgum,strephenopodia , long and short legs, internal infection, they made my two legs differ by 1.2cm in length, I saw a difference of 0.8cm in x-ray before removing the fixation in Turkey, but Wannabetaller and Yuksel said there is no problem ! I had numb nerves in my right foot for a year and 4 months. I also had genu valgus and right foot varus. They gave me chronic osteomyelitis in my right tibia. They are terrible at dealing with the complications of limb lengthening surgery, they have cost me dearly with their delays in dealing with infections and insisting that I am not serious and don't need to clean the wound, yet they are still making false claims, hiding victims, Threatening victims, smearing victims, and continuing their business as if nothing had happened!
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this is very disappointing and sad >:( >:(, i am so sorry for your failure with LL. I have been considering doing my surgery with Dr. Yurttas since from what I understand he had disassociated himself with WannaBeTaller, but faced with this situation, I am seriously considering discarding Yurttas and going with Becker to Germany.
Wish you all the best in Germany
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oh man im so sorry, is there a way you can dm me?
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do u still have numb nerves
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As the Turkish wannabetaller team and their doctors Yuksel and yunus insisted that there is no need to clean the wound, which caused me to not get timely and correct treatment in Turkey. An internal infection that could have been cured by debridement was delayed by them into suppurative osteomyelitis It was delayed by them and became chronic suppurative osteomyelitis. This disease will affect me for the rest of my life! My domestic diagnosis report showed that there was a large area of soft tissue necrosis in the broken bone of my right calf, and the bone was destroyed. It keeps me still in painful treatment can’t work and walk.This chronic osteomyelitis has cost me $14,000 so far and it has not ended.Turkey Wannabetaller team and their doctors thought they have no any responsibilities just continued their business .
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As the Turkish wannabetaller team and their doctors Yuksel and yunus insisted that there is no need to clean the wound, which caused me to not get timely and correct treatment in Turkey. An internal infection that could have been cured by debridement was delayed by them into suppurative osteomyelitis It was delayed by them and became chronic suppurative osteomyelitis. This disease will affect me for the rest of my life! My domestic diagnosis report showed that there was a large area of soft tissue necrosis in the broken bone of my right calf, and the bone was destroyed. It keeps me still in painful treatment can’t work and walk.This chronic osteomyelitis has cost me $14,000 so far and it has not ended.Turkey Wannabetaller team and their doctors thought they have no any responsibilities just continued their business .
The worst part is the excuses and everything is normal don't worry.
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but u still got numb nerves?
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but u still got numb nerves?
Yes, my right foot has numbness and tingling nerves from the first surgery, Wannabetaller team ‘s doctors told me that it was normal and the nerve damage would heal after one year, but now it's one year and 4 months ……Several other patients were more serious than me because they couldn't lift their feet, they couldn't lift their toes.
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Is there a way we can talk? Im also crippled with non union and nerve damage. Are u the one who made the youtube video?
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Turkey Wannabetaller team always deliberately disabled patients to continue making money from them. They promote that they can treat X or O deformities, but they actually make the patients malformed.
(https://s8d2.turboimg.net/t1/87963480_mmexport1681901092871.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/87963480/mmexport1681901092871.jpg.html) (https://s8d2.turboimg.net/t1/87963481_mmexport1681901099178.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/87963481/mmexport1681901099178.jpg.html) (https://s8d2.turboimg.net/t1/87963482_mmexport1681901100916.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/87963482/mmexport1681901100916.jpg.html)
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They did not fix the fibula, causing it to fall off, which would cause arthritis in the future but they never told us.
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I really wonder how there are still people that go to these butchers for LL and generally to Turkey for cosmetic procedures which is the most scam place in the world, full of crooks that ruin their patients.
I hope that all fellow LLers-victims from them will have a happy end with their problems. You should find respectable doctors and listen to their advice.
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The Turkish wannabertaller team broke my YouTube account and I can't log into it anymore. The Wannabetaller team is aware of every patient's leg problem, but they refuse to admit their mistakes and hide their victims for fear of affecting their business.
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I originally planned to go back to Turkey after treating chronic osteomyelitis in China to sue the black intermediary Wannabetaller for delaying and mishandling intramedullary infection, which made me have to be careful to prevent the recurrence of chronic osteomyelitis for the rest of my life! When I knew that the statute of limitations for a lawsuit in Turkey is ten years, and I saw a news that "a man in Turkey spent ten years in a lawsuit to prove that he was not dead", is it so difficult for local Turkish people to defend their rights? Litigation efficiency is so low! Then I went to Turkey as a Chinese to sue the Turks, is there any hope? N years after the execution link, right? Is there any hope for a country like Türkiye? No wonder black intermediaries have no fear! The domestic police and doctors said that my case was a medical malpractice, and the lawyer also said that it would be easier if the intermediary agency and doctors were in China. But if in China, I would definitely not get chronic osteomyelitis, because every doctor knows that debridement is necessary!
"Clearing the lesion is the basic principle of the treatment of suppurative infection and osteomyelitis, and it is also the key to the successful treatment of osteomyelitis owledge! And I have been telling me that osteomyelitis does not need debridement and can be cured with antibiotics and will not relapse! And it developed into chronic osteomyelitis and still did not agree with other doctors' suggestions for needle removal and debridement!
(https://s8d6.turboimg.net/t1/88699795_mmexport1683716101330.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/88699795/mmexport1683716101330.jpg.html)
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Their accommodation prices increase very frequently, and they know that most of the complications of this surgery will appear after the extension ends, so Wannabetaller only wants patients to stay in their hotel for 3 months, and after 3 months they will use the price increase to urge the patient as soon as possible Leave Turkey, to get rid of their responsibilities. They also advertise that they provide rental services, which will also become a trap for them to avoid responsibility. In short, these intermediaries are fully prepared to get rid of responsibility, including fabricating lies to slander the victims. You can know the credibility of Turks in international trade through various news.
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When you are attracted by their false advertisements and hypocritical services and decide to go to them for surgery, please make sure you can solve it yourself and bear all the consequences, Turkish law and here will not help you, I wish you good luck.
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They are crooks and thieves. I was also maimed and given crooked legs by Yuksel Yurttas and my opinion is that Yuksel Yurttas is a piece of shi/t scamming doctor. Please PM me your WhatsApp.
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When you are attracted by their false advertisements and hypocritical services and decide to go to them for surgery, please make sure you can solve it yourself and bear all the consequences, Turkish law and here will not help you, I wish you good luck.
I dun think it is limited to Turkish Law.It is applicable to all LL Surgery.
You will need to sign the surgery contract before operation.
The contract will protect the Surgeon from any legal allegation.
To date, we did not hear any successful legal case against LL Surgeons.
If you know any successful case, please share here in the Forum.
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They are crooks and thieves. I was also maimed and given crooked legs by Yuksel Yurttas and my opinion is that Yuksel Yurttas is a piece of shi/t scamming doctor. Please PM me your WhatsApp.
My WhatsApp: +90 546 712 92 98
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Turkey Wannabetaller team always deliberately disabled patients to continue making money from them. They promote that they can treat X or O deformities, but they actually make the patients malformed.
(https://s8d2.turboimg.net/t1/87963480_mmexport1681901092871.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/87963480/mmexport1681901092871.jpg.html) (https://s8d2.turboimg.net/t1/87963481_mmexport1681901099178.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/87963481/mmexport1681901099178.jpg.html) (https://s8d2.turboimg.net/t1/87963482_mmexport1681901100916.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/87963482/mmexport1681901100916.jpg.html)
How did the femur patient who did 6cm end up with valgus deformity? I have heard that 8cm femur can put people into valgus if they did Antegrade due to lengthening anatomical axis but this result is crazy for 6cm!
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Outcomes like this are discouraging.
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I dun think it is limited to Turkish Law.It is applicable to all LL Surgery.
You will need to sign the surgery contract before operation.
The contract will protect the Surgeon from any legal allegation.
To date, we did not hear any successful legal case against LL Surgeons.
If you know any successful case, please share here in the Forum.
Signing a surgical risk consent form in China does not mean that the hospital is exempt from all responsibilities, that would be crazy. Limb lengthening surgery should ensure that patients can walk normally instead of being disabled. In the past, there was a case in China where a patient successfully sued the doctor for limb lengthening surgery one year after the operation. In the end, the court ruled that the hospital and the doctor jointly compensated the patient almost 70,000 US dollars for treatment and mental damage. Below is the court verdict I uploaded, which is publicly available on the Internet in China. I'm also aware of several cases involving LL where damages settlements have been reached before even reaching court.
Chinese doctors are more worried that their career will be ended because of a complaint or lawsuit. Turkey's intermediary agencies and doctors are not afraid of anything, so they do business without conscience, and no one can punish them.
(https://s8d2.turboimg.net/t1/88778333_mmexport1683833930670.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/88778333/mmexport1683833930670.jpg.html) (https://s8d2.turboimg.net/t1/88778335_mmexport1683833932491.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/88778335/mmexport1683833932491.jpg.html) (https://s8d2.turboimg.net/t1/88778338_mmexport1683833935655.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/88778338/mmexport1683833935655.jpg.html) (https://s8d2.turboimg.net/t1/88778340_mmexport1683833939412.png) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/88778340/mmexport1683833939412.png.html)
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If you have recent imaging data please put it at this thread. Redact any information that could be used to dox you.
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I originally planned to go back to Turkey after treating chronic osteomyelitis in China to sue the black intermediary Wannabetaller for delaying and mishandling intramedullary infection, which made me have to be careful to prevent the recurrence of chronic osteomyelitis for the rest of my life! When I knew that the statute of limitations for a lawsuit in Turkey is ten years, and I saw a news that "a man in Turkey spent ten years in a lawsuit to prove that he was not dead", is it so difficult for local Turkish people to defend their rights? Litigation efficiency is so low! Then I went to Turkey as a Chinese to sue the Turks, is there any hope? N years after the execution link, right? Is there any hope for a country like Türkiye? No wonder black intermediaries have no fear! The domestic police and doctors said that my case was a medical malpractice, and the lawyer also said that it would be easier if the intermediary agency and doctors were in China. But if in China, I would definitely not get chronic osteomyelitis, because every doctor knows that debridement is necessary!
"Clearing the lesion is the basic principle of the treatment of suppurative infection and osteomyelitis, and it is also the key to the successful treatment of osteomyelitis owledge! And I have been telling me that osteomyelitis does not need debridement and can be cured with antibiotics and will not relapse! And it developed into chronic osteomyelitis and still did not agree with other doctors' suggestions for needle removal and debridement!
(https://s8d6.turboimg.net/t1/88699795_mmexport1683716101330.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/88699795/mmexport1683716101330.jpg.html)
Seeking justice is almost impossible in turkey :(
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And they don't charge cheap, it is very expensive, 35k euros for lon method is crazy, better go to greece and do it with precise for 43k euros.
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I think that livelifetaller is less worse than this clinic that occured this tragedy.
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Don't go and do the surgery from Yuksel. I've been to his hotel where his patients do the Physio. It's very unprofessional