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Title: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 06, 2015, 08:47:10 PM
Go to sluthate.com, I've just read a couple of threads and this is the funniest I've got from there
- you need to be 6'4 in order to be attractive to women
- the idea that IQ can be measured by how a person talks
- beauty is measured by numbers
- Randy Orton is more attractive than Ian somerhalder
- Adrien Brody would score no woman according to many members




Reality
-legit 6'0 is more than enough to start your game
-IQ in poor words is memory,multitasking and fast intuition, hence why u can't detect it only by hear someone talking
-you can't apply logic to instinctive emotions, hence why a face doesn't need to follow numbers to be interesting
-9 women out of 10 would feel more attracted to Ian than Randy at first look
-Adrien Brody has an interesting face which is made even more interesting by his ugly nose
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 06, 2015, 08:52:45 PM
I brought this up because reading the old forum, sluthate, I saw people talking about LL and I also saw people here talking with the same vocabulary as from the old forum, like scoring a 9/10 or 8/10 and i see people here obsessed with numbers when the only thing in terms of proportions that u should be aware of is arm length and not having a big disproportion between tibia and femur is also something to consider
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: joax on January 07, 2015, 12:47:53 AM
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-legit 6'0 is more than enough to start your game

Some of the best pick up artists in the world are 5'8 or 5'7. If you are doing LL purely for dating women, you better believe that increasing your height will not help you that much.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: joax on January 07, 2015, 12:51:56 AM
It's a much better idea to improve your game and meet women who are not that shallow. Trust me, they are out there. It's kind of pathetic that men blame their height for not being able to date women when there are short men who are very attractive and date tons of women. It IS possible.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 07, 2015, 12:56:58 AM
Some of the best pick up artists in the world are 5'8 or 5'7. If you are doing LL purely for dating women, you better believe that increasing your height will not help you that much.

PUA is fraud. I've watched videos of in field training and even watched videos from PUA artists such as David Wygant(he's 6'2" but that not my point) and the videos they assemble " every single one of them" are from women they pay to go along with it. Let's face it guys, no one in the world does a perfect approach to women no matter how good of a ladies man they are.



Go to sluthate.com, I've just read a couple of threads and this is the funniest I've got from there
- you need to be 6'4 in order to be attractive to women
- the idea that IQ can be measured by how a person talks
- beauty is measured by numbers
- Randy Orton is more attractive than Ian somerhalder
- Adrien Brody would score no woman according to many members




Reality
-legit 6'0 is more than enough to start your game
-IQ in poor words is memory,multitasking and fast intuition, hence why u can't detect it only by hear someone talking
-you can't apply logic to instinctive emotions, hence why a face doesn't need to follow numbers to be interesting
-9 women out of 10 would feel more attracted to Ian than Randy at first look
-Adrien Brody has an interesting face which is made even more interesting by his ugly nose

Hmmm I actually agree with you this time around. I think I'm a bright individual actually
but I do try to use logic and reason rather than intuition with women. I do sometimes change the topic but I kinda ease away if I'm not interested. Something I'll apply in my life.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 07, 2015, 01:00:17 AM
It's a much better idea to improve your game and meet women who are not that shallow. Trust me, they are out there. It's kind of pathetic that men blame their height for not being able to date women when there are short men who are very attractive and date tons of women. It IS possible.

It is possible but chances are if your less than 5'9" and want a 5'10"+ model, she'll disqualify you based on your height. But if your not that tall, you can easily get quality women who are average to short in height.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: TomD on January 07, 2015, 01:35:42 AM
6ft to 6ft 2 is an ideal height for a man. Tall enough to command but small enough to still breathe the same air as the rest of the world.

If you are starting out 5ft 2 or 3 and can only get to 5ft8 or 9 then that is fine. At that height the discrimination against you isnt very much anymore.


If I was 5ft 10 I probably wouldnt worry about this surgery . I would bulk up and wear small lifts to give me 5 11 or 6ft in boots.

If we are going to do the surgery though, lets make it worth our while.I am doing 6 inches.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: joax on January 07, 2015, 01:52:17 AM
PUA is not a scam. The concepts are solid, but that's besides the point. Many factors attract women (status, physical appearance, wealth, etc...) and height is only one of those factors. There are many valid reasons to get cosmetic LL, but attracting women shouldn't be one of them IMO.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: joax on January 07, 2015, 01:53:42 AM
And I agree that 6' - 6'2 is an amazing height in Europe and the US. My personal aim is 5'11 which is great for my country. Remember, it's all relative guys.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 07, 2015, 02:30:31 AM
PUA is not a scam. The concepts are solid, but that's besides the point. Many factors attract women (status, physical appearance, wealth, etc...) and height is only one of those factors. There are many valid reasons to get cosmetic LL, but attracting women shouldn't be one of them IMO.

It's times like this that I hope people get ripped off just to learn a lesson. There is no proof of any PUA artists techniques working, not only that but name 1 guy who has a girl who's a 9 or 10 who isn't a PUA instructor but a student. There are none. All the PUA is is a man who hired some women to follow him around and pay them next to nothing just to have them boast about how many women they fked. And when you apply your technique and it doesn't work, they'll just use something on their stupid IOD list instead of actually watching what you do. Not every women will be interested in you and that's life. You can do the best approach and you'll still never get the girl of your dreams.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Taller on January 07, 2015, 02:48:21 AM
Nottallenough, I wish I was your height so badly lol.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 07, 2015, 02:59:35 AM
Nottallenough, I wish I was your height so badly lol.

It's nothing special. I even heard one of my co-workers say "the best height to be is 6'4". I was predicted to be that height and wear a 14 us. I was hoping to be 6'3" at the lowest. Just goes to show how stupid doctors are.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 07, 2015, 03:09:50 AM
It's nothing special. I even heard one of my co-workers say "the best height to be is 6'4". I was predicted to be that height and wear a 14 us. I was hoping to be 6'3" at the lowest. Just goes to show how stupid doctors are.
for a short/normal guy its special, for a guy who's been this height all life its normal to think there's better
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Taller on January 07, 2015, 03:10:05 AM
It's nothing special. I even heard one of my co-workers say "the best height to be is 6'4". I was predicted to be that height and wear a 14 us. I was hoping to be 6'3" at the lowest. Just goes to show how stupid doctors are.


Your reply and new username just show how relative and individual height neurosis is. If I got to your height via LL, I'd probably be content for life and never worry about height again. But, to you, your height is nothing special, even though you are the tallest person seeking LL on this forum. You are definitely entitled to go for it, though, and I respect your desire to do what you feel will improve yourself. Heck, I'd love to be 6'3-6'4 as well, but I don't think about it, since I know that it's impossible for me with current technology. A legit 6'0-6'2 will be more than enough for me, and I feel grateful to at least have the possibility of reaching that range with LL, because many members here couldn't do that realistically if they wanted to.


I think a lot of the satisfaction from LL comes from the confidence boost associated with changing something that you've always thought unchangeable and against your success (your height) rather than reaching a specific height. It's about winning a battle to gain what one wasn't supposed to have, but wouldn't accept not having. For example, I know that TRS /TheRisingShorty/FullMetalShorty would be much happier getting to 5'9 (his dream height) via LL than you are getting to 6'1 naturally. I got to 5'9-5'10 naturally and wish that I could appreciate that height as much as TRS and Medium Drink of Water do. But they've had to fight (and win) to obtain this height and I haven't. It's winning this battle that conquers height neurosis, not the height number itself.


What an interesting world we live in, huh?
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 07, 2015, 04:14:08 AM
It's nothing special. I even heard one of my co-workers say "the best height to be is 6'4". I was predicted to be that height and wear a 14 us. I was hoping to be 6'3" at the lowest. Just goes to show how stupid doctors are.
its best height for a man, because 9 out of 10 men don't know how female attraction works, and I see that quite a lot in men transferring their ego into sizes (whether it be dck or height)
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 07, 2015, 04:49:35 AM

Your reply and new username just show how relative and individual height neurosis is. If I got to your height via LL, I'd probably be content for life and never worry about height again. But, to you, your height is nothing special, even though you are the tallest person seeking LL on this forum. You are definitely entitled to go for it, though, and I respect your desire to do what you feel will improve yourself. Heck, I'd love to be 6'3-6'4 as well, but I don't think about it, since I know that it's impossible for me with current technology. A legit 6'0-6'2 will be more than enough for me, and I feel grateful to at least have the possibility of reaching that range with LL, because many members here couldn't do that realistically if they wanted to.




I think a lot of the satisfaction from LL comes from the confidence boost associated with changing something that you've always thought unchangeable and against your success (your height) rather than reaching a specific height. It's about winning a battle to gain what one wasn't supposed to have, but wouldn't accept not having. For example, I know that TRS /TheRisingShorty/FullMetalShorty would be much happier getting to 5'9 (his dream height) via LL than you are getting to 6'1 naturally. I got to 5'9-5'10 naturally and wish that I could appreciate that height as much as TRS and Medium Drink of Water do. But they've had to fight (and win) to obtain this height and I haven't. It's winning this battle that conquers height neurosis, not the height number itself.


What an interesting world we live in, huh?

Not denying I'm Ajax originally, just felt like I needed a change of username. Maybe 6'1" isn't the dream height I've wanted and am overreacting a bit for being much shorter than my predicted height. I think anyone 5'7" and taller on this site assuming they all have normal preportions can make it to 6'0". Me making it to 6'3" and 6'4" and even 6'5" and looking normal to people should still be no problem regardless. My only setback is finances.

its best height for a man, because 9 out of 10 men don't know how female attraction works, and I see that quite a lot in men transferring their ego into sizes (whether it be dck or height)

At the end of the day it comes down to chemistry. You do have to stand out to get her attention but that can only go far enough and if it's not a good fit it's not a good fit. I do get angry when women reject me but try not to take it personally. My only gripe is my friends kick back and criticize me in what I did wrong when they were too much of a pussy to approach the girl.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 07, 2015, 05:22:51 AM
I'm 177 at night, 6 cm will do for me, like I said where I live the average is 176, being 3 inches over the average and hitting the 6'0 mark should be enough for my liking
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: kunta kinte on January 07, 2015, 05:50:15 AM
the 6'0 mark sound so good, I guess it wasnt ment to be. being 5'11 is the worst height possible, so close yet so far.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: joax on January 07, 2015, 02:15:37 PM
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It's times like this that I hope people get ripped off just to learn a lesson.

It does work. It's the same as marketing. Approach more sets of women, and your chances of success increase. Say the right things, they increase even more. Improve the offer (yourself) and they increase even more. Basic marketing.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: joax on January 07, 2015, 02:20:46 PM
And I have zero desire to start an argument here. All I really want is for people not to even consider LL if they're doing it only to meet women. It's much easier to go out there, meet women and keep trying. There's always someone right out there for you who won't care about your height.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 07, 2015, 02:52:01 PM
I'm doing it because I'll feel better
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 07, 2015, 07:08:38 PM
It does work. It's the same as marketing. Approach more sets of women, and your chances of success increase. Say the right things, they increase even more. Improve the offer (yourself) and they increase even more. Basic marketing.

I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree with you. I've had friends who read mystery method and applied it every night we'd go out to bars. And they would end the night with 0 women and 0 numbers. I kept telling them that routines and pick up lines wouldnt work. But why do you need a routine? Your not a clown in the circus. Just do what you love, make friends with guys, get involved in activities and you'll meet women. You may not understand all of what I'm saying which is fine but you'll find someone regardless. Don't waste your money and time on some improvement course and get scammed like so many guys desperate to have sex.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Uppland on January 07, 2015, 07:29:40 PM
No I'm not going to "sluthate.com" and I don't think you should either -the name alone is a red flag. As for their ideas any normal-adjusted person would tell you that:

-You don't need to be tall at all but it helps.
-IQ is measured by an IQ-test
-Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder
-Randy who and Ian what?
-He already has.

As for -Nottallenough- (prev Ajax): I'm so fuking jealous 6'4 is literally my dream height I'd kill someone if I could be that tall but it's almost 1,5 decimeters off. If I could be 190CM at anytime during the day I would be extatic.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: endomorphisme on January 07, 2015, 07:46:23 PM
i'm 182.5 cm and i'm still hesitating.
i'm hesitating because it will takes 3 years  after i have competed my studies to save enough , and also because the more diaries i read, the more risks i feel i will have to cope, not during the surgery, but after, for the rest of my life, even if someone only do 4 or 5 cm in tibs, he has  chances to face problems after the surgery.
Many of you would like to be my height, but height is relative.Being 183 cm and living in the netherlands or the dinaric alps, doesn't feel the same as living in china or japan, i just mention the two tallest, east asian coutries, where new generation reach 174-175 cm, because in the rest of east asia, they are still short.
It's much better to be 183 cm when you're chinese .i believe that 183 cm in china equals to 188-189 cm in europe.
Maybe i will move to us, and there i may feel taller, so more confident since americans are not tall ( i read many comments from american people on celebgheight, pointing americans are stagnating, and they also said that 183 cm is quite tall)
Another, and my last point: some of you are too unrealistic:unrealistic goals, some will have to save for a decade.I remember someone who said he has no degree, but to afford the surgery with an expensive doctor, he will be an escort boy (lol).
There are also people like uppland who are 17-18 years olds, which means no degree, no studies competed, so no job, no money...and want to do 2 surgeries which means you have to save atleast 20 000 euros, if you go with the cheapest doctor.
There are also people who will take out a loan, and will fall into debt for decades
There are discrepencies between what you wish, and reality, and i feel that your height neurosis blind you
I'm sorry i'm in hurry, so sorry for the english, but it makes  3 weaks i have not been on this forum, and i just wanted to share my view
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Uppland on January 07, 2015, 08:09:13 PM
endomorphisme is right we're all dreamers here and 183CM isn't very tall in the west but it's not really short either although it might feel that way in northern europe.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 07, 2015, 08:42:02 PM
endomorphisme is right we're all dreamers here and 183CM isn't very tall in the west but it's not really short either although it might feel that way in northern europe.

183cms is above average in every country in Europe but Netherlands and Dinaric Alps. Even 5'10" is taller than most people on a worldwide scale. I'm doing 4-5cms on Tibias and maybe another 4-5cms on femurs. I'll end up with being 6'2.5-6'3" first surgery and 6'4.5'-6'5" on the next one. I have the same sitting height as most people 6'0"-6'3" but I don't think anyone other than Conan O'Brien who is 6'4" has the same sitting height as me.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Sean Connery on January 07, 2015, 09:02:51 PM
If you have good looks genetics, 5'10 can be a great height even in the taller nations. It isn't midget status anywhere in the world.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: endomorphisme on January 07, 2015, 09:24:41 PM
183cms is above average in every country in Europe but Netherlands and Dinaric Alps. Even 5'10" is taller than most people on a worldwide scale. I'm doing 4-5cms on Tibias and maybe another 4-5cms on femurs. I'll end up with being 6'2.5-6'3" first surgery and 6'4.5'-6'5" on the next one. I have the same sitting height as most people 6'0"-6'3" but I don't think anyone other than Conan O'Brien who is 6'4" has the same sitting height as me.

you're ajax?
I remember you have to pay off a loan, and you don't make a lot of money, plus you want to do two surgeries.
It's just what i was talking about, unrealistic goal, that will probably never be totally achieved.
I'm concerned too, because i 'm not rich, i will have a good job, but i will never be a millionar.
I will have to save money for 3 years and then consolidate for atleast 1 year...
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: KiloKAHN on January 07, 2015, 09:31:33 PM
If you're short on money and your credit is decent, you could save up 1/2 or 3/4ths of the price and then get a monthly loan from your bank to cover the rest.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 07, 2015, 10:14:36 PM
No I'm not going to "sluthate.com" and I don't think you should either -the name alone is a red flag. As for their ideas any normal-adjusted person would tell you that:

-You don't need to be tall at all but it helps.
-IQ is measured by an IQ-test
-Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder
-Randy who and Ian what?
-He already has.

As for -Nottallenough- (prev Ajax): I'm so fuking jealous 6'4 is literally my dream height I'd kill someone if I could be that tall but it's almost 1,5 decimeters off. If I could be 190CM at anytime during the day I would be extatic.
if u want a laugh tough u can always check
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 07, 2015, 10:34:38 PM
you're ajax?
I remember you have to pay off a loan, and you don't make a lot of money, plus you want to do two surgeries.
It's just what i was talking about, unrealistic goal, that will probably never be totally achieved.
I'm concerned too, because i 'm not rich, i will have a good job, but i will never be a millionar.
I will have to save money for 3 years and then consolidate for atleast 1 year...

If i can make $40 k per year and get a loan, I can probably do Precice with Shah or Birkholtz in no more than 2 years.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Uppland on January 08, 2015, 02:00:27 AM
If you have good looks genetics, 5'10 can be a great height even in the taller nations. It isn't midget status anywhere in the world.

That's true -it's liveable but it's still my dream to be taller. It doesn't help that I get towered regularly where I live.

I wish I could be 11CM taller and end up 189-190 but like endomorphisme says: who am I kidding?
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 08, 2015, 02:28:12 AM
That's true -it's liveable but it's still my dream to be taller. It doesn't help that I get towered regularly where I live.

I wish I could be 11CM taller and end up 189-190 but like endomorphisme says: who am I kidding?

I wouldn't get upset. You could probably make it to 6'1.5"(your Dads height) or 6'2" doing 2" each segment.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: TomD on January 08, 2015, 09:33:51 AM
I'm doing it because I'll feel better

This is the best answer I have heard yet. The most honest as well.  :D
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Shor7Guy on January 09, 2015, 02:33:40 AM
That's true -it's liveable but it's still my dream to be taller. It doesn't help that I get towered regularly where I live.

I wish I could be 11CM taller and end up 189-190 but like endomorphisme says: who am I kidding?

whats wrong with 5 tib and 6 internal femur?
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Uppland on January 09, 2015, 02:36:27 AM
whats wrong with 5 tib and 6 internal femur?

Don't you think it would wreck my proportions?

Other than that I'm not sure I could afford two surgeries and I don't know if I could handle it either but who knows I just might reach it.

Would you lenghten that much?
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Smallguy on January 09, 2015, 05:22:41 AM
I'm sorry but I'm gonna have to disagree with you. I've had friends who read mystery method and applied it every night we'd go out to bars. And they would end the night with 0 women and 0 numbers. I kept telling them that routines and pick up lines wouldnt work. But why do you need a routine? Your not a clown in the circus. Just do what you love, make friends with guys, get involved in activities and you'll meet women. You may not understand all of what I'm saying which is fine but you'll find someone regardless. Don't waste your money and time on some improvement course and get scammed like so many guys desperate to have sex.

I never read those crap either. But what you say, do, look and feel all make a difference. Unless you are already irresistibly hot, you can't expect to come up to a woman and be yourself, feel all goofy and awkward, and expects her to fall in love with you. In sales it's called a pitch. In war, it's call tactic. In chess, even if you have more pieces, you can't just move your pieces randomly and by how you feel and expect to win. Same with getting laid. There is an opening, comforting building stage and the closing stage. My friend who is a natural player just does it naturally. But I'm more of the analytic type so I'm typing this.

Joax I agree
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Shor7Guy on January 09, 2015, 03:05:20 PM
Don't you think it would wreck my proportions?

Other than that I'm not sure I could afford two surgeries and I don't know if I could handle it either but who knows I just might reach it.

Would you lenghten that much?

Im doing 10cm but my spine will be longer cus im gunna take glucosamine which keeps your morning height the same all day (to my understanding) and all that length is in the spine. gunna try glucosamine a try first and if it works do tibs then see if i feel like femur after. i recommend you try glucosamine here's the thread - http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=1522.0
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: endomorphisme on January 09, 2015, 03:09:18 PM
do you think a man who is 188 cm earns more than a man who is 183 cm?
I read that the taller a man is, the higher his salary is
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 09, 2015, 03:54:36 PM
I never read those crap either. But what you say, do, look and feel all make a difference. Unless you are already irresistibly hot, you can't expect to come up to a woman and be yourself, feel all goofy and awkward, and expects her to fall in love with you. In sales it's called a pitch. In war, it's call tactic. In chess, even if you have more pieces, you can't just move your pieces randomly and by how you feel and expect to win. Same with getting laid. There is an opening, comforting building stage and the closing stage. My friend who is a natural player just does it naturally. But I'm more of the analytic type so I'm typing this.

Joax I agree

I think it's more about your intention and how you say it. Depending on the context and if your joking you can get away with saying " I want to fk you". Not saying your gonna walk up to a girl and say that, just saying if the moment is right and your confident in the way you say it, it can work. My point is though sometimes your gonna say and do everything right but a girl is still not going to be interested sometimes. I go out and a lot of women do give me a chance but I don't get their number regardless. Maybe I don't go in for the # quick enough or am not their type or something. I really wish there was someone who could say what I'm doing wrong and not make up some stupid story like to follow the rules from the mystery method.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 09, 2015, 04:04:17 PM
do you think a man who is 188 cm earns more than a man who is 183 cm?
I read that the taller a man is, the higher his salary is
not sure if serious or just retarded, u earn according to your will/brain capabilities
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: ForcedPuberty on January 09, 2015, 04:25:45 PM
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not sure if serious or just retarded, u earn according to your will/brain capabilities

actually that's not true.

height equals social power. and social power gives you more resources in life.

in tribes they get more resources dished out to their taller counterparts also. in the west they are given more money.

people who are taller get more promotions and opportunities.

and there is statistical proof showing that the taller you become the more you earn.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Uppland on January 09, 2015, 04:53:31 PM
do you think a man who is 188 cm earns more than a man who is 183 cm?
I read that the taller a man is, the higher his salary is

It is statistically proven that taller men earn more but that advantage diminishes almost completely somewhere between 185-190 I think I read.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 09, 2015, 05:38:16 PM
actually that's not true.

height equals social power. and social power gives you more resources in life.

in tribes they get more resources dished out to their taller counterparts also. in the west they are given more money.

people who are taller get more promotions and opportunities.

and there is statistical proof showing that the taller you become the more you earn.
but not when 6'0 or 6'2, ideal height for most is 6'0 to 6'2, at this point ur skills are what will set u apart
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: ForcedPuberty on January 09, 2015, 06:51:20 PM
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but not when 6'0 or 6'2, ideal height for most is 6'0 to 6'2, at this point ur skills are what will set u apart

prove this claim with a graph. according to you when you get to 6"1 (aproximatly) your income will statistically not increase.


sorry but I don't believe you.

I honestly cant remember either.

you are making 1 huge mistake. at 6"1-6"2 you gain no extra social power with women if you go above this height(it comes down to individual other characteristic traits). but you mistakenly think that you stop gaining social power amongst other men. this is not the case for an extra few inches you continue to gain social power in a male to male peer environment.

but while you continue to gain social power in a peer to peer male to male social environment, you also loose sexual social power with women. specifically with the majority of women, the exception being that women of greater height (a minority compared to total population of girls) will be attracted to you.

the end result is more social power with other men, and taller women being more attracted to you, but the greater majority of women actually loosing interest in you due to your height.

Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 09, 2015, 07:09:04 PM
Want to be respected by men? Then get the women.
The power of boner is stronger, so my point is still valid
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 09, 2015, 08:36:04 PM
True. "Height equals social power, and social power gives you more resources in life (...). People who are taller get more promotions and opportunities, and there is statistical proof showing that the taller you become the more you earn". There is one thing which is called "erotic capital". According to some social scientists, erotic capital combines different elements of physical and social attractiveness: beauty, sexual attractiveness, social skills (grace, charm), liveliness, social presentation and sexuality itself. For men and women all six elements contribute to define someone's erotic capital, which is important both for professional and career success and private life. The relative importance of the six elements often differs for men and women, but it's universally accepted that height is one of the pre-requisites for sexual attractiveness, specially for men. People regularly perceive that good looks (which include height) indicate greater intellectual competence as well. That's why tall people tend to get more promotions and opportunities (specially in the case of men).
the difference in social power between a 6'0 and 6'2 is insignificant
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: endomorphisme on January 09, 2015, 09:08:28 PM
6'1-6"2 is enough with women, and i agree you won't gain any bonus with them if you're taller.
In the world of work, i think 6'1" is excellent too, but being taller would not be substantial.

http://www.jonathanrauch.com/jrauch_articles/height_discrimination_short_guys_finish_last/index.html

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Business. A survey in 1980 found that more than half the chief executives of America's Fortune 500 companies stood six feet tall or more. As a class, these wekepei were a good 2.5 inches taller than average; only 3% were peritsi, 5'7" or less. Other surveys suggest that about 90% of chief executives are of above-average height. Similarly for:

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Professional status. Looking at several professions, one study found that people in high-ranking jobs were about two inches taller than those down below, a pattern that held even when comparing men of like educational and socioeconomic status. Senior civil servants in Britain, for instance, tend to be taller than junior ones. Shorter people also have worse:

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Money. In 1994 James Sargent and David Blanchflower, of America's Dartmouth College, analysed a sample of about 6,000 male Britons whose progress was monitored from birth to early adulthood. Short teenaged boys made less money when they became young adults (aged 23) than their taller peers--even after other attributes, such as scores on ability tests or parents' social status, were factored out. For every four inches of height in adolescence, earnings went up more than 2% in early adulthood. Another survey, of graduates of the University of Pittsburgh, found that those who were 6'2" or taller received starting salaries 12% higher than those under six feet.

Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Uppland on January 10, 2015, 12:22:39 AM
the difference in social power between a 6'0 and 6'2 is insignificant

I don't think so actually. At least where I live 183CM is quite average while 188CM is kind of tall. I've said it before and I'll say it again: 190-195CM is the dream range according to me.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Smallguy on January 10, 2015, 05:42:27 AM
I think it's more about your intention and how you say it. Depending on the context and if your joking you can get away with saying " I want to fk you". Not saying your gonna walk up to a girl and say that, just saying if the moment is right and your confident in the way you say it, it can work. My point is though sometimes your gonna say and do everything right but a girl is still not going to be interested sometimes. I go out and a lot of women do give me a chance but I don't get their number regardless. Maybe I don't go in for the # quick enough or am not their type or something. I really wish there was someone who could say what I'm doing wrong and not make up some stupid story like to follow the rules from the mystery method.

Yeah, I don't follow the rules or PUA method neither. Most PUA are already good-looking anyway. If I had their looks, I wouldn't need to follow any method. Just be myself and succeed. I only admire successful PUA who is less than 5 feet tall, ugly and broke. If I meet a PUA like this, then maybe, I will watch his videos.

Based on your post, you seem like a sensible guy and don't seem awkward or anything. So I can't figure out why you don't get a gf of someone you like. Could it be the environment? The dating pool is small (fewer young people)? The type of women you are attracted to - they are married?

Well here... my city is like a tourist hub. There are many students visiting here from all over the world, especially from Europe and Asia. So I no longer pursue Canadian women. Canadian women are smart - they only go for guys who are equivalent in social benefit like themselves. But on the attractiveness scale, I probably rate as a 5 or a 6 (stretch). So it doesn't make sense for me to settle for a 5 Canadian girl whereas I can get a 7-8 foreign women.

Japanese women - you'll be surprised you may run into a very beautiful Japanese girl. The good thing about Japanese women is that the Japanese men are more interested in animation, video games and other kinky stuff. So when you hit on a Japanese women, they'll be surprised because they never get hit on before. Also in Japanese culture, the women don't usually say no to men. So when you pull off their pants, you can try to be polite and can say SuMiMaSen - meaning excuse me in Japan. And they will forgive you. Okay I feel like a jerk for saying this.

Korean women - are more street smart than Japanese. I like to watch Korean drama and music video so am really into Korean. I saw some really stunning ladies at the nightclub. Sometime you can try to be touchy with them and go for the kiss, and if they get offended, you can say that's how we do things here in my culture.

Swiss women - I meet some really stunning swiss students at hostel and bars. We became friends but nothing happen. I guess I'm more into asian.

To give you a sense of my rating scale, I would rate Kim Kadasian as a 1. I don't find Kim Kadasian attractive. Does anyone else feel the same way? Maybe my preference is really different from standard Americans. I find her very manly asthetically and her lips are very thick. I didn't know that thick lips are popular in America (and oversize boobs). And I may confuse her eyes for George Clooney. I would give Seulhyun, the girl below that a 10.

If you ever visit here, feel free to give me a shout and I can be your tour guide.

(http://i55.tinypic.com/312e7f8.jpg)

(http://i61.tinypic.com/ftpz5j.jpg)

Want to be respected by men? Then get the women.
The power of boner is stronger, so my point is still valid

I agree with you buddy. Being tall doesn't automatically give you more money or more women. Otherwise, most tall people would be wealthy and have many children, which is not the case.

The short guy who is horny and is driven enough will always win out to a tall guy who is shy, timid and possess no social prowess.

But what I find interesting about this forum and life in general is that people like to give themselves excuse for their failure... same as why one of my Chinese friend like to tell me that girls doesn't like him because of this ethnicity. But I also hang out with different Chinese guy who has success with women. Some short guys (or medium and tall on this forum) like to bring up data and stats to show why they can't be successful in life. But this doesn't apply to most of us even though we're in the similar height.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 10, 2015, 07:38:23 AM
Yeah, I don't follow the rules or PUA method neither. Most PUA are already good-looking anyway. If I had their looks, I wouldn't need to follow any method. Just be myself and succeed. I only admire successful PUA who is less than 5 feet tall, ugly and broke. If I meet a PUA like this, then maybe, I will watch his videos.

Based on your post, you seem like a sensible guy and don't seem awkward or anything. So I can't figure out why you don't get a gf of someone you like. Could it be the environment? The dating pool is small (fewer young people)? The type of women you are attracted to - they are married?

Well here... my city is like a tourist hub. There are many students visiting here from all over the world, especially from Europe and Asia. So I no longer pursue Canadian women. Canadian women are smart - they only go for guys who are equivalent in social benefit like themselves. But on the attractiveness scale, I probably rate as a 5 or a 6 (stretch). So it doesn't make sense for me to settle for a 5 Canadian girl whereas I can get a 7-8 foreign women.

Japanese women - you'll be surprised you may run into a very beautiful Japanese girl. The good thing about Japanese women is that the Japanese men are more interested in animation, video games and other kinky stuff. So when you hit on a Japanese women, they'll be surprised because they never get hit on before. Also in Japanese culture, the women don't usually say no to men. So when you pull off their pants, you can try to be polite and can say SuMiMaSen - meaning excuse me in Japan. And they will forgive you. Okay I feel like a jerk for saying this.

Korean women - are more street smart than Japanese. I like to watch Korean drama and music video so am really into Korean. I saw some really stunning ladies at the nightclub. Sometime you can try to be touchy with them and go for the kiss, and if they get offended, you can say that's how we do things here in my culture.

Swiss women - I meet some really stunning swiss students at hostel and bars. We became friends but nothing happen. I guess I'm more into asian.

To give you a sense of my rating scale, I would rate Kim Kadasian as a 1. I don't find Kim Kadasian attractive. Does anyone else feel the same way? Maybe my preference is really different from standard Americans. I find her very manly asthetically and her lips are very thick. I didn't know that thick lips are popular in America (and oversize boobs). And I may confuse her eyes for George Clooney. I would give Seulhyun, the girl below that a 10.

If you ever visit here, feel free to give me a shout and I can be your tour guide.

(http://i55.tinypic.com/312e7f8.jpg)

(http://i61.tinypic.com/ftpz5j.jpg)

I agree with you buddy. Being tall doesn't automatically give you more money or more women. Otherwise, most tall people would be wealthy and have many children, which is not the case.

The short guy who is horny and is driven enough will always win out to a tall guy who is shy, timid and possess no social prowess.

But what I find interesting about this forum and life in general is that people like to give themselves excuse for their failure... same as why one of my Chinese friend like to tell me that girls doesn't like him because of this ethnicity. But I also hang out with different Chinese guy who has success with women. Some short guys (or medium and tall on this forum) like to bring up data and stats to show why they can't be successful in life. But this doesn't apply to most of us even though we're in the similar height.

I have battled depression and anger in the past and sometimes do today. I think I'm just not getting enough opportunities. I think I should make some make friends, get some activities because my lifestyle and the way I'm living, my chances are slim to 0 of meeting someone.
I could go to a foreign country but it may be hard to have a connection with someone who doesn't
understand English well. So it would only be good for sex. I really want a Mexican girlfriend and am 28. Still look younger than I am and I believe I can still date women 21-27 if I wanted to.
I'm not right all the time but it would be nice if someone could tell me what I'm doing wrong and
how I can fix it?
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Uppland on January 10, 2015, 09:38:11 AM
I have battled depression and anger in the past and sometimes do today. I think I'm just not getting enough opportunities. I think I should make some make friends, get some activities because my lifestyle and the way I'm living, my chances are slim to 0 of meeting someone.
I could go to a foreign country but it may be hard to have a connection with someone who doesn't
understand English well. So it would only be good for sex. I really want a Mexican girlfriend and am 28. Still look younger than I am and I believe I can still date women 21-27 if I wanted to.
I'm not right all the time but it would be nice if someone could tell me what I'm doing wrong and
how I can fix it?

You could move to scandinavia everyone here speaks english and people think americans are somewhat exotic. Just make sure you get a job beforehand because it's expensive as hell -also if you feel short in the US you wil feel even shorter here.

We can't tell you what you are doing wrong you just need to figure it out by yourself. Let me say this though: your height isn't really your issue here.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 10, 2015, 04:08:57 PM
You could move to scandinavia everyone here speaks english and people think americans are somewhat exotic. Just make sure you get a job beforehand because it's expensive as hell -also if you feel short in the US you wil feel even shorter here.

We can't tell you what you are doing wrong you just need to figure it out by yourself. Let me say this though: your height isn't really your issue here.

It would be a best guess on what I'm doing wrong. One factor is im not getting enough opportunities. Maybe I'm fine, just not good at bars/clubs. I've tried online dating with little to no success. I'm still above average in Scandanavia so will probably feel average at the worst like I do in America. I have fallen for the PUAs deception Into believing their scams. Luckily I got my money back. Any way, I don't have the answers and wish I did so I don't know where to turn to at this moment in time.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Uppland on January 10, 2015, 07:00:41 PM
It would be a best guess on what I'm doing wrong. One factor is im not getting enough opportunities. Maybe I'm fine, just not good at bars/clubs. I've tried online dating with little to no success. I'm still above average in Scandanavia so will probably feel average at the worst like I do in America. I have fallen for the PUAs deception Into believing their scams. Luckily I got my money back. Any way, I don't have the answers and wish I did so I don't know where to turn to at this moment in time.

So your problem is that you're not getting any girls?

Well you're not alone millions of men have this problem and there can be a number of reasons why. However as long as you are sexual enough around women, know how to flirt and -of course- meet plenty of girls you want to sleep with that's really all you need.

You say you don't get enough oppertunities -meaning that you don't meet enough women?- Fortunately that's the easiest part there are a thousand and one ways you can go about it. Try hosting parties regularly for 2-3 months, join a community like a public speaking class or take dancing lessons, you can flirt with random women you meet during the day if you're somewhat brave, maybe ask your friends to set up a blind date or just hang out at your local bar with some friends and hit on girls.

Just remember to screen (for lack of a better word) for the kind of women you want: you like litterature? Go to the bookstore, the library or join a bookclub. If you rather just have casual sex start going to parties or if you're looking for a relationship just invite every cute girl you meet to a date and pick the one you like best.

It's not rocket science mate you're gonna be fine.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 10, 2015, 07:08:33 PM
So your problem is that you're not getting any girls?

Well you're not alone millions of men have this problem and there can be a number of reasons why. However as long as you are sexual enough around women, know how to flirt and -of course- meet plenty of girls you want to sleep with that's really all you need.

You say you don't get enough oppertunities -meaning that you don't meet enough women?- Fortunately that's the easiest part there are a thousand and one ways you can go about it. Try hosting parties regularly for 2-3 months, join a community like a public speaking class or take dancing lessons, you can flirt with random women you meet during the day if you're somewhat brave, maybe ask your friends to set up a blind date or just hang out at your local bar with some friends and hit on girls.

Just remember to screen (for lack of a better word) for the kind of women you want: you like litterature? Go to the bookstore, the library or join a bookclub. If you rather just have casual sex start going to parties or if you're looking for a relationship just invite every cute girl you meet to a date and pick the one you like best.

It's not rocket science mate you're gonna be fine.

I'm into Mexican and then Middle Eastern women mostly. I did like some asian women but I really don't understand why so many white men fiend after them so much? Anyway, probably salsa and spanish speaking classes will achieve that. I am joining crossfit since it's cheaper and more like a group exercise class than personal training. I like music such as listening and playing so can probably meet some women there.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: KiloKAHN on January 10, 2015, 09:39:13 PM
I'm into Mexican and then Middle Eastern women mostly. I did like some asian women but I really don't understand why so many white men fiend after them so much? Anyway, probably salsa and spanish speaking classes will achieve that. I am joining crossfit since it's cheaper and more like a group exercise class than personal training. I like music such as listening and playing so can probably meet some women there.

My philosophy is that as long as she has a nice butt, it doesn't matter where she's from :D
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Ajax2thousand20 on January 10, 2015, 11:32:31 PM
My philosophy is that as long as she has a nice butt, it doesn't matter where she's from :D

Mine is big tits! Then again I'm white and most white guys like tits more than ass.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Uppland on January 11, 2015, 12:57:54 AM
Mine is big tits! Then again I'm white and most white guys like tits more than ass.

No that's an american stereotype I love a well shaped ass -love big tits as well but more of an ass man.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Outgrown on January 11, 2015, 02:07:41 AM
Guess I'm the rare breed who digs personality
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Moubgf on January 12, 2015, 01:45:26 PM
Guess I'm the rare breed who digs personality


And girls with balls like a bull, not cky but truly confident in herself and not identifing with being a woman. That comes second, first and foremost she is "johanna" then she's a woman. That is a mega turn on aswell. When i find this women and i dont think i will. But if i do i will hold on to her for all im worth.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 12, 2015, 01:50:45 PM

And girls with balls like a bull, not cky but truly confident in herself and not identifing with being a woman. That comes second, first and foremost she is "johanna" then she's a woman. That is a mega turn on aswell. When i find this women and i dont think i will. But if i do i will hold on to her for all im worth.
Good thinking, but will u be the same for her?
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Moubgf on January 12, 2015, 01:51:57 PM
Good thinking, but will u be the same for her?

I already am, just need dat dere height to live 10/10 life.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: GeTs on January 12, 2015, 01:52:27 PM
I already am, just need dat dere height to live 10/10 life.
how much do u need?
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Moubgf on January 12, 2015, 01:55:29 PM
how much do u need?

7 cm and normal shoes putting me at around 10 cm taller. Boom done, ready to meet the world.

One more month, then im getting the fk out of here.
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Uppland on January 12, 2015, 08:07:08 PM
7 cm and normal shoes putting me at around 10 cm taller. Boom done, ready to meet the world.

One more month, then im getting the fk out of here.

Nice man good luck
Title: Re: Proof that 9men out of 10 have wrong ideas about female attraction
Post by: Outgrown on January 13, 2015, 12:15:08 AM
7 cm and normal shoes putting me at around 10 cm taller. Boom done, ready to meet the world.

One more month, then im getting the fk out of here.

What are your plans?