Limb Lengthening Forum
Community Hangout => Off Topic => Topic started by: xenia123 on January 30, 2018, 09:15:32 AM
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Hello
I'm a girl who's 5'10, with shoes even 5'11. I absolutely hate my height. It's way too tall for a woman.
That's why I wanna do leg shortening.
I know that my body would be somehow disproportionate after shortening my legs. But I'd rather have short legs for a woman than being that tall for the rest of my life.
I'm looking for people who are also interested in this procedure or people who have already done it. Here in this forum I've only found one report (the one of olivetree).
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5'10 is short for a woman
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No, that's almost 180cm. That's freakishly tall for a woman. There are almost no women with that height.
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I dont know what country you live in. But in northern europe you would feel completely normal, although the average is shorter.
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I live in Switzerland.
Do you know of anyone who has done leg shortening surgery?
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We had some members here who said they'd do it, but they never returned to post if they went through it. Someone else may know of a member I don't know about.
As far as I have read (https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/002965.htm), limb shortening is easier and more complication free than limb lengthening, but do consider if that's what you really want in your life. I wish I knew more about it, but I don't even know what the prices look like.
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I live in Switzerland.
Do you know of anyone who has done leg shortening surgery?
Go to a psychologist.
Your height is not bad and many men will find it attractive. It is insane to ruin your legs for no reason.
After all the max you can shorten is about 1.5cm on tibias and 2 on femurs to not completely cripple yourself by loosening your soft tissues so it won't make any major dofference.
Forget about is, so simple.
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I really think being that tall as a woman is ugly af. I don't primarily think about my dating pool. It's me who thinks tall women are ugly.
I chatted with Dr. Sarin today (or one of his assistants) and he said he can shorten my femur OR tibia by 5cm. If I want 7cm, I'll have to shorten femur & tibia. (If I do it, I'd only do the femur.)
Do you think it will look weird if only my femur is 5 cm shorter?
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Sarin is a doctor who doesn't have a good reputation around here. I'd recommend discussing this matter with a good orthopedic surgeon from your country, and finding a better doctor to do the procedure (preferably in Western Europe), if you absolutely can't see yourself living without it. I also agree with Body Builder: try therapy first. I think everyone needs to give therapy a try before they decide on major surgeries like this, be they for lengthening or shortening. You don't want to go through something like this if you could live without it.
Definitely don't do surgeries like this in the hands of bad doctors in countries with poorer general medical standards.
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Find a taller guy you will feel short. A lot of models are your height or taller. I read a post from a girl whose height was 168cm she wanted limb lengthening to become a model.......
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that thread is most likely a troll
and that forum is plenty of troll
5-10 is uncommon -not as 6ft+- and absolutely not "too tall"
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I really want to be shorter. I've felt too tall for more than 10 years now. I AM too tall for a woman.
My wish is no different from wanting to be taller. I'm not happy with my height and I want to fix it.
I know of Dr. Betz in Germany. He's doing leg shortening too, but I guess he's too expensive for me. I don't wanna wait many years for the surgery anymore.
If anyone of you know affordable but still good surgeons who do leg shortening, please tell me.
I reckon that a simple femur reduction of 5cm isn't a very complicated surgery, that's why I thought it hasn't to be a world class surgeon to do that. If you've heard different stories, please let me know. Unfortunately there are not many reports on this type of surgery.
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that thread is most likely a troll
and that forum is plenty of troll
5-10 is uncommon -not as 6ft+- and absolutely not "too tall"
What?! I'm not a troll. 5'10 is very tall for a woman. Too tall.
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While being a tall woman isn't exactly comparable to being a short guy, there are plenty of reasons a woman at 5'10 would want to be shorter, and studies even support that being tall as a woman is less attractive than being short or average height. Plenty of tall girls (like my 5'11 sister) have felt that their height brings them unnecessary attention and makes them feel intimidating to people.
Avoid Sarin for leg shortening though, as even in India he's starting to get attention from other orthopedic surgeons as being a media hungry know-nothing. I'd talk to some doctors in the US first, like Rozbruch or Paley. Other good ones would be Mark Dahl (Saint Paul, MN) and John Herzenberg (Baltimore, MD).
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Find a taller guy you will feel short.
She said it doesn't have primarily to do with dating. It's like telling a short guy here to just date a short woman so he feels tall. He'll still keep feeling short in his daily life. While I agree with trying to avoid risky, elective surgeries if you can live without them as a general principle, she may just not want to live her whole life as a tall-ish woman. Like many here don't want to live their whole lives as short-ish men. It's personal. As I consider LL in the future myself, I don't feel I can tell her to just forget about this. However, like with LL, prospective patients should decide on it with a clear mind, and it should be a fully informed decision. Short men and tall women don't need these surgeries just to keep on living and have mostly normal lives, and this is a point I often try to stress here. If they fully understand the risks, consequences, aren't doing this because of a recent bad event (e.g. being dumped or heard mean comments), have tried to get psychological help about it before, and this is something they want for their life, however, then I don't feel like I can't tell them not to.
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I really want to be shorter. I've felt too tall for more than 10 years now. I AM too tall for a woman.
My wish is no different from wanting to be taller. I'm not happy with my height and I want to fix it.
I know of Dr. Betz in Germany. He's doing leg shortening too, but I guess he's too expensive for me. I don't wanna wait many years for the surgery anymore.
If anyone of you know affordable but still good surgeons who do leg shortening, please tell me.
I reckon that a simple femur reduction of 5cm isn't a very complicated surgery, that's why I thought it hasn't to be a world class surgeon to do that. If you've heard different stories, please let me know. Unfortunately there are not many reports on this type of surgery.
If you shorten anything more than 2cm your soft tissues will be completely ruined.
My achilles tendon was overlengthened for less than 2cm and I couldn't even stand without feeling unstable, with 5cm I dare if you could even walk.
If Sarin told you that thats another reason why he is called butcher.
If you took it out of your mind I suggest you to come to reality and listen to my words. Leg shortening for your height is insane but even if you do it don't exceed more than 2cm per segment or you'll completely cripple your legs.
The choice is yours.
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@KiloKAHN: Thanks for your understanding and your recommendations for better surgeons. I'm gonna check them out. I want to avoid Sarin if it's possible.
@myloginacct: THIS
@Body Builder: Thanks for this info. Where do you know from that one shouldn't shorten a bone more than 2cm because of the soft tissue? Did a surgeon tell you that? Won't the soft tissue adapt to the new circumstances? (I believe you, I just wanna see the research.)
Sarin REALLY told me he'd do 5cm on my femurs only (on whatsapp today) :-\
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I've found short girls sexy, I've found tall girls sexy. One thing that I don't think that is sexy is a girl that has short legs or/aka short torso.
I've said this before and I will say it again: this surgery, in female's case, is more important if you want to fix your proportions rather than fixing your height. Unless we are talking about a female who is insanely huge my opinion still stands. I've met many 5'10 girls and I do think it's tall(but not too tall) for a girl but even that is debatable. Look at Kate Middleton, Prince William's wife, she is 5'9 and she is not considered tall or at least not too tall (never seen a comment regarding her height tbh).
So you might want to reconsider this. Perhaps something other than your height is troubling you.
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@KiloKAHN: Thanks for your understanding and your recommendations for better surgeons. I'm gonna check them out. I want to avoid Sarin if it's possible.
@myloginacct: THIS
@Body Builder: Thanks for this info. Where do you know from that one shouldn't shorten a bone more than 2cm because of the soft tissue? Did a surgeon tell you that? Won't the soft tissue adapt to the new circumstances? (I believe you, I just wanna see the research.)
Sarin REALLY told me he'd do 5cm on my femurs only (on whatsapp today) :-\
I'm glad you agree, but I also said other things. If you don't know the risks to this surgery (as it seems to be the case), you shouldn't be looking into doing it. You need to try self-acceptance with a mental health professional. If that doesn't work, then you need to schedule an appointment with a good doctor so you can fully inform yourself about the risks and everything else there is to the procedure. Only after having tried solving how you see and feel about yourself, and having fully informed yourself about the procedure and its risks, is that I think height surgery becomes an option. Like someone else implied here, moving to a taller country is another option too.
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I wouldn't spend too much time talking to Dr. Sarin, he'll promise you the moon.
I'd spend that time consulting with surgeons like Dr. Paley and the like who have performed a variety of cases, just to get information at first. See if they'll share any past cases that you can learn from so that you can make an informed decision.
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I've been trying to accept my height for more than 10 years now. I can't. I don't think it will ever happen, to be honest.
I already live in a European country with a tall average height.
I've just found out about leg shortening surgery like 2 weeks ago. I'm still collecting information (research papers, reports, surgeons) about the possibilities and risks of such a surgery. That's why I'm in this forum.
It's not that I'm gonna decide on this surgery and a particular surgeon tomorrow ;D
I'm still at the very beginning of my journey.
But still, thanks for your warnings. I'll consider everything very carefully.
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@KiloKAHN: Thanks for your understanding and your recommendations for better surgeons. I'm gonna check them out. I want to avoid Sarin if it's possible.
@myloginacct: THIS
@Body Builder: Thanks for this info. Where do you know from that one shouldn't shorten a bone more than 2cm because of the soft tissue? Did a surgeon tell you that? Won't the soft tissue adapt to the new circumstances? (I believe you, I just wanna see the research.)
Sarin REALLY told me he'd do 5cm on my femurs only (on whatsapp today) :-\
Soft tissues can adapt to longer bones by stretching.
But to shorter bones they can't. They stay overstretched and can't function properly.
Search on google to find articles, I tell you what I know from my reading and my experiences.
It is your duty to search and don't listen to butchers who say that they can shorten your bones 5cm (!) without crippling tou completely.
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I believe you, but you're crazy to consider this especially if the reason is vanity. Have you seen the surgery scars?
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Soft tissues can adapt to longer bones by stretching.
But to shorter bones they can't. They stay overstretched and can't function properly.
Search on google to find articles, I tell you what I know from my reading and my experiences.
It is your duty to search and don't listen to butchers who say that they can shorten your bones 5cm (!) without crippling tou completely.
I found a presentation on Femoral Shortening (by the International Center for Limb Lengthening
Rubin Institute of Advanced Orthopaedics Sinai Hospital, Baltimore, MD) and I got these information:
-Indications: Skeletal maturity, LLD = 2 to 6 cm
-Potential advantages vs leg lengthening:
- Shorter hospitalization
- Faster mobilization
- Decreased risk of joint stiffness
- Faster healing
-Closed Femoral Shortening : Review of Literature
223 patients in 4 studies 1,2,3,5
• Union rate 97.5 – 100%
Most common complications:
• Rotational malunion
• ARDS
• Distraction at osteotomy site
• Delayed union
-Return of Muscle Strength:
“Long-term loss of muscle force should
be expected after a mid-shaft
shortening of the femur of more than
10%” Holm et al 1994
“after two years the quadriceps and
hamstrings had recovered to within
93% and 96% of their preoperative
values respectively, a change that was
not statistically significant”
Case Study 2 is a 20y/o female who shortened 4cm. She doesn't seem to have gotten complications.
This doesn't sound that bad to me. Also concerning muscle strength, it looks quite good if you don't shorten more than 10% of your femur length. 5 cm is just about 10% in my case.
But If you have contradictory studies, please show them to me.
paper: https://www.google.ch/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0ahUKEwi25O6vh4LZAhWDUhQKHZEAApgQFggnMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fllrs.org%2FPDFs%2FSpecialty%2520Day%2520Presentations%2F3_14_Specialty_Day%2FHerzenberg%2520FINAL.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1A3qOFbG5Jcvr0zeMB-9BH
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I believe you, but you're crazy to consider this especially if the reason is vanity. Have you seen the surgery scars?
Don't we all do it here for vanity?
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The most beautiful women in earth (Victoria's Secret Angels) are the same height as you.
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The most beautiful women in earth (Victoria's Secret Angels) are the same height as you.
Nope, most of them are between 5‘8 and 5‘9.
I‘d be their height if i did LS.
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Nope, most of them are between 5‘8 and 5‘9.
I‘d be their height if i did LS.
and Toni Gaarn who is 181 cm (listed by her agency) is one of the most famous model in the world
the same for Karlie Kloss who is about 6ft/6ft1 (that 6-2 claim is ridiculous)
and L'Wrenn Scott who is 6-3 ?
5-10 is a perfect height, many women would like to be that tall. After I could understand you feel too tall, but actually 5-9 is still tall for a woman. It's a waste of money and dangerous
I don't try to convince you, I don't want to be like all these people against LL. But if you are not a troll, then think carefully
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and Toni Gaarn who is 181 cm (listed by her agency) is one of the most famous model in the world
the same for Karlie Kloss who is about 6ft/6ft1 (that 6-2 claim is ridiculous)
and L'Wrenn Scott who is 6-3 ?
5-10 is a perfect height, many women would like to be that tall. After I could understand you feel too tall, but actually 5-9 is still tall for a woman. It's a waste of money and dangerous
I‘d still be tall, I know, but 5 cm makes a big difference. I‘d go from „too tall“ to just „tall“.
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I‘d still be tall, I know, but 5 cm makes a big difference. I‘d go from „too tall“ to just „tall“.
5-10 is not the too tall area for me
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Nope, most of them are between 5‘8 and 5‘9.
I‘d be their height if i did LS.
5'8 and 5'9 women are sometimes forgiven their short height in VS catwalk because they have incredibly beautiful faces, but they are considered 'short' for a model. In general terms the industry prefers 5'10 models. 178-180 is the perfect height for a catwalk model, no matter where you go.
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Thank you for your uplifting words. I know there are some models my height. But outside of the model world, I think 175cm+ women are too tall. That’s just my assessment. I know I will never be short, and that‘s ok. It‘s really these extra 5 cm that‘s bothering me.
update: I just got a response from the Betz Institute in Germany. They say they do 4-6 cm on the femur. They did 10 such surgeries in the past years.
They just recently did 6 cm on the femur with a celebrity (if you are German, you know her: Olivia Jones). Her story was all over the news and she‘s happy with the result.
The problem: It costs 32‘000€ with Dr. Betz. I can never afford that :'(
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I dont know the reason why you want to be shorter. But i can guarantee you that no man will consider a 5'10 girl to tall, unless he is shorter himself. But nowadays most guys are that height or taller. Height is attractive for both genders.
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I've found short girls sxxy, I've found tall girls sxxy. One thing that I don't think that is sxxy is a girl that has short legs or/aka long torso.
Just editing smth from my previous post that wasn't making any sense.
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I dont know the reason why you want to be shorter. But i can guarantee you that no man will consider a 5'10 girl to tall, unless he is shorter himself. But nowadays most guys are that height or taller. Height is attractive for both genders.
I can just repeat myself. I think 5‘10 is too tall for a woman. 5‘10 is a great height for a man, but not for a woman.
5‘9 is the absolute max. height for a woman.
My opinion
Most women agree with me though.
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I can just repeat myself. I think 5‘10 is too tall for a woman. 5‘10 is a great height for a man, but not for a woman.
5‘9 is the absolute max. height for a woman.
My opinion
Most women agree with me though.
Yes of course, only you can judge whether you feel good or not. However, i highly doubt its a problem for you hence why you should consider the whole thing carefully.
Being a man and let say 165 or shorter, then obviously you will face lots of problems in life when it comes to the interaction with the opposite sex(for example). Saying that 175cm is the absolute max for a woman is simply not true unless you live in a short country. You live in Europe.
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I'm glad you agree, but I also said other things. If you don't know the risks to this surgery (as it seems to be the case), you shouldn't be looking into doing it. You need to try self-acceptance with a mental health professional. If that doesn't work, then you need to schedule an appointment with a good doctor so you can fully inform yourself about the risks and everything else there is to the procedure. Only after having tried solving how you see and feel about yourself, and having fully informed yourself about the procedure and its risks, is that I think height surgery becomes an option. Like someone else implied here, moving to a taller country is another option too.
This! short legs are not attractive for both genders. But girls are usually expected to have longer legs than guys so be careful what you are doing to your body. Find a therapist.
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I can just repeat myself. I think 5‘10 is too tall for a woman. 5‘10 is a great height for a man, but not for a woman.
5‘9 is the absolute max. height for a woman.
My opinion
Most women agree with me though.
Trust me! I know some girls who would kill to be your height! VS height! :)
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This! short legs are not attractive for both genders. But girls are usually expected to have longer legs than guys so be careful what you are doing to your body. Find a therapist.
That's actually my biggest concern: That my body will look out of proportion and weird because I only shorten my femurs.
Do you think 5 cm will be very noticeable? Will my legs (in my case even only the femurs) look too short in relation to my whole body? I'm not sure how I could figure this out.
I'm thinking because surgeons agree to do this kind of surgery, it will look agreeable, otherwise they would reason me out of it. Lol.
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Please don't shorten your legs.
Long legs are one of the most attractive things that a woman can have and short legs make a woman look fatter and eradicates all the sexiness.
You can be a runway model with that height.
You can easily date a guy above 180.
Also, there are lots of people who find tall girls very attractive, a friend of mine had an intense tall girl fetish.
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Sorry for the weird pic (i don‘t have a better atm), but I need your advice:
- Will 5 cm less on my femur be very noticable?
- Will my legs be perceived as „short“?
- Will I be noticable out of proportion?
https://picload.org/view/ddpwdala/9c5cb4f2-d06d-4c74-b2ea-fed0ea.png.html
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Sorry for the weird pic (i don‘t have a better atm), but I need your advice:
- Will 5 cm less on my femur be very noticable?
- Will my legs be perceived as „short“?
- Will I be noticable out of proportion?
Hard to tell exactly with the angle and socks, but your proportions look good. I honestly wouldn't touch a thing and "deal" with the perception of glamorous rather than cute. Maybe you can try a new wardrobe that's better suited for taller women so that you look and feel better in the clothes you wear.
That being said, it should look fine if you have your femurs shortened by 5 cm. You might still appear tall if you expose your legs however, because longer tibias has the effect of making people look taller.
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I think you're being too hard on yourself, 5'10 - 5'11, it's a great size for a woman, you're just tall for a woman, 5'10 that's the minimum height for catwalk models,
I went out and dated many tall girls, and I prefer tall women hahah.
I think tall women are the wonder of nature, I dated a 6-foot girl and I told her to wear high heels, she looked wonderful, a beautiful Amazon.
you should not worry about it I know girls 6'3 - 6'4 who play volleyball, basketball, soccerl the problem is you have 4'5 - 4'6 feet would be a real problem for you, be happy look for a tall boyfriend He will surely love you and your height.
Look, this beautiful couple.
bravissimodasha and Anton Ryskin
she has 6'3 (1.91m) he's 6'2 (1.88m)
https://imgur.com/gallery/QlUjW4Q
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5'10 is short for a woman
lol no, 5'10'' is very tall for a woman
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on Dinaric Alps there are only women +195 cm :'(
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Could not see your photo.
but in South Brazil it is completely normal to see women 5'10 - 6 '. is considered only a tall woman.
and here many younger women would like to be in the 5'10 minomo.
There are many risks for stretching or shortening a leg, I think you have to think very carefully before
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Please don't shorten your legs.
Long legs are one of the most attractive things that a woman can have and short legs make a woman look fatter and eradicates all the sxxiness.
You can be a runway model with that height.
You can easily date a guy above 180.
Also, there are lots of people who find tall girls very attractive, a friend of mine had an intense tall girl fetish.
What I have known for a very long time has been fully confirmed here. The story of my life right here!
I'm not upset, it feels refreshing to see what I've almost always known written down and confirmed. I'm laughing right now because if we really think about it, it is funny. Life is funny and you have to laugh and make light of it. I know full well I'm seen as a lesser woman, no one needs to tell me, I have just felt it from others, it has caused me so much pain but now that I am going to have this surgery, I see some beacon of hope, so today I feel positive.
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xenia123
I see you gave up on the idea of having this surgery due to wanting to have children. I remember when you said this in one of my posts. I'm also glad to hear you decided not to go ahead meaning you will not have to go through the possible risks etc. I hope you are doing well now and happy because 5 feet 10 for a woman in Europe seems great.
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Hello
I'm a girl who's 5'10, with shoes even 5'11. I absolutely hate my height. It's way too tall for a woman.
That's why I wanna do leg shortening.
I know that my body would be somehow disproportionate after shortening my legs. But I'd rather have short legs for a woman than being that tall for the rest of my life.
I'm looking for people who are also interested in this procedure or people who have already done it. Here in this forum I've only found one report (the one of olivetree).
What are you talking about?
5'10 ur not even tall.
My cousin she is 5'10 and she would keep bragging for hours about her great physique.
Also.. where I live.. every one loves tall chicks. My future wife will be 5'10.
For some reason.. this place has a ton of weird thoughts. I'm doubting they might be trolling. I mean. A 6'2 guy thinks he is short. And a 5'10 girl wants to break her bones to be shorter. What the fk!.
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For some reason.. this place has a ton of weird thoughts. I'm doubting they might be trolling. I mean. A 6'2 guy thinks he is short. And a 5'10 girl wants to break her bones to be shorter. What the fk!.
Most of these guys dont even have the balls to go through with such invasive surgery. They just keep posting nonsense
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Most of these guys dont even have the balls to go through with such invasive surgery. They just keep posting nonsense
Exactly what I thought. They are taking us in a job lol.
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I'm 153 cm and don't consider 178 cm tall for a woman. Tall starts at 180, so you are almost tall.
Just go for vacation to Netherlands and you will feel like a migit. They are all approaching 190 there.
If you want to appear delicate and fragile, make sure you stay skinny. (Skinny and toned, not skinny fat).
You can also take up trampoline and acrobatics - it will compress your spinal risks, reducing your height by up to 3 cm but keeping the legs nice and long.
Flat shoes and smooth long hair (rather than hairstyles that add height) will further reduce your perceived height.
If your ribcage is large, there's a new surgery that repositions the lower two ribs, giving you a 10 cm smaller waist without the risks associated with removing the ribs.
If you are skinny, slender and fit, no way anyone will think of you as tall at 175 cm, especially in Switzerland. You will be perfectly average height.