Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Doctors => Topic started by: Muse on November 23, 2014, 10:28:09 PM
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Information on Dr. Aimin Peng, located at China Rehabilitation Hospital (Beijing).
Note: Please refer to our disclaimer about the Doctors Directory http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=55.0
Doctor's Profile
Our surgery team is headed by Prof. Aimin Peng and his team, who is very experienced orthopaedic surgeon specialized in leg lengthening cosmetic surgery, who have carried out more than 2,100 cosmetic leg lengthening procedure with great success.
Pricing
The package price 34，000-35,000 USD (according to methods of anesthesia, you can choose epidural or general anesthesia based your requirement ) needs to be paid at the time of admission. Payment can be done by bank transfer or cash order. No credit card payment or personal check is accepted at present. We can send you our bank details for you to set up a bank transfer arrangement with your home banks and you can transfer the fund once you are in Beijing, just before the surgery.
you can decide a time and book your flight and let me know in 2-3 weeks advance, then we can arrange your hospitalization and treatment accordingly, we can also assist with your visa application and arrange your airport pickup (these are all included in the price of the package). Of course, you can visit our hospital in Beijing first, to see in your own eyes and then decide from there."
Q/A
1) How many patients have you operated for cosmetic Limb Lengthening so far and How many patients do you operate yearly?
Over 21,00 cosmetic limb lengthening for healthy person so far. 80 -100 patients we operate yearly.
2) What is the estimated total cost, including post-op treatments, stay, medications, physiotherapy? Are unscheduled surgeries covered and How much does a consultation cost?
The package cost is 34,000-35,000 USD([price difference because of type of anesthetics you will choose ) as a package cost with 4 month lengthening stage and accommodation free. The extra cost will be charged after free period, 1,000-1,500USD per month per person according room type and service required.
3) What kind of physical therapy is assigned to the patient?
Because of every patient is different after surgery, so physical therapy will be advised according particularly of each patient. Stretching both knees and keep ankle flexible is most important fact.
4) What maximum amount of lengthening do you recommend per segment, regarding patient safety? What is the daily rate of lengthening?
6-8 cm lengthening for cosmetic purpose Dr. Peng always recommends. The rate of lengthening daily is 0.66-0.67mm as average. Some patients are allowed to lengthening fast if the new generation healing is good than average
5) What are your opinions regarding the weightbearing of the patients?
All the patients here are required to start weight bearing 8-10 days after the first surgery what is very essential and important for irritating the bone growing.
6) How often will you follow up with patients during lengthening?
X-rays taking once a month as required during lengthening stage. The patient can check with doctor anytime as long as they require.
7) How fast can patients return to normal life (walking without support)?
2-3moths after internal rods inserted.
Contact
Ronne Wang
leglengthening@aliyun.com
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so this hospital is different from Dr Xia and Dr Li hospital?
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For $35k I would want to go to France or Germany. What exactly does the package entail?
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Here is Dr. Aimin Peng, the surgeon who did my LL in Beijing.
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Here is China Rehabilitation Hospital, where Dr. Peng is currently performing LL surgeries.
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so this hospital is different from Dr Xia and Dr Li hospital?
Yes. Dr. Peng has his own clinic now.
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For $35k I would want to go to France or Germany. What exactly does the package entail?
Hospitalization for the whole time you're there, and any complications fixed at no extra charge.
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Hospitalization for the whole time you're there, and any complications fixed at no extra charge.
Cool. I missed the part when he said 'internals' . Not a bad price if everything is included.
:)
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It's LON not full internal though. :-\
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It's LON not full internal though. :-\
It still sounds like an awesome deal, though! I'd love to have a consultation with him when my time comes.
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Here is Dr. Aimin Peng, the surgeon who did my LL in Beijing.
I was kind of hoping he'd be black.
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What's the different between this contact and http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64.0 ?
Aren't they exact the same?
Please help :)
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Good question. The Beijing Institute of External Skeletal Fixation Technology (the one you linked to) is now sending their patients to Dr. Peng at China Rehabilitation Hospital. I don't know if they've merged or what the exact arrangement is, but either way Dr. Peng is now the surgeon.
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Ronne/Wangbei is a broker. She can be thought of as a club promoter. Her job is to increase interest among potential foreign customers in local service providers. It appears that she is now sourcing new foreign patients to Dr. Aimin Peng instead of Dr. Xia/Ma. I personally disdain her because she often misleads new patients and their expectations. If you decide to go to Dr. Peng, just approach Ronne as you would a used car salesperson: with caution and skepticism.
The following in the first post:
"7) How fast can patients return to normal life (walking without support)?
2-3moths after internal rods inserted."
is misleading. It ranges from 1 (not advised) to 5 months (my case).
Ronne/Wang Bei lied often. There definitely is not a physical therapist involved with this operation at this price point. If interested in this issue, one should ask for pictures of the gym for physical therapy. Ronne's idea of physical therapy is to point your toes to the ceiling, then parallel to the ground and repeat. The gym should have stationary bikes, a treadmill, and weights at the least. A pool would be ideal for walking, but doubtful that this hospital has one.
The "Beijing Institute of External Fixation" is a misnomer. They could change the name to whatever they want as often they want to reference whatever entity they choose. There isn't any real institution, just particular doctors. In this case, the Beijing Institute of External Fixation could refer to Dr. Xia's old Guang Ji hospital (closed in June 2014) or to Dr. Xia himself (rarely around).
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Ronne/Wangbei is a broker. She can be thought of as a club promoter. Her job is to increase interest among potential foreign customers in local service providers. It appears that she is now sourcing new foreign patients to Dr. Aimin Peng instead of Dr. Xia/Ma. I personally disdain her because she often misleads new patients and their expectations. If you decide to go to Dr. Peng, just approach Ronne as you would a used car salesperson: with caution and skepticism.
The following in the first post:
"7) How fast can patients return to normal life (walking without support)?
2-3moths after internal rods inserted."
is misleading. It ranges from 1 (not advised) to 5 months (my case).
Ronne/Wang Bei lied often. There definitely is not a physical therapist involved with this operation at this price point. If interested in this issue, one should ask for pictures of the gym for physical therapy. Ronne's idea of physical therapy is to point your toes to the ceiling, then parallel to the ground and repeat. The gym should have stationary bikes, a treadmill, and weights at the least. A pool would be ideal for walking, but doubtful that this hospital has one.
The "Beijing Institute of External Fixation" is a misnomer. They could change the name to whatever they want as often they want to reference whatever entity they choose. There isn't any real institution, just particular doctors. In this case, the Beijing Institute of External Fixation could refer to Dr. Xia's old Guang Ji hospital (closed in June 2014) or to Dr. Xia himself (rarely around).
Good information
How dare these people lie to us for sage of themselves?
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2-3 months walking again? Yeah right. The bare minimum is 4 months. The only way it could be that quick is if you lengthen 1".
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I don't know, guys. 2-3 months sounds about right to me as a time frame for ditching the crutches. I wasn't walking at full speed by then, but I did "return to normal life / walking without support" in 3 months after doing 7.5cm.
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He's Boss. He did mine too. Along with Dr Zhao who's younger. November 2013 to June 2014. Tibias 8cm with external Ilizarov fixators.
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And I had ditched the crutches and returned to WORK within that time period measured from my release from their care. That's not the same as returning to full agility, which is not what's been said.
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Here is correspondence I received from Wang Bei (Ronne) on behalf of Surgeon Peng:
"Dr. Peng has reviewed Xrays and confirmed all the condition is progressinggood on new generation .
you can come back for femur lengthening now if limb function recovered fully. he would like to removed the bottom screws for bone shapping at the same time of femuring lengthening.
there is no extra correction needed.
the cost for femur lengthening procedure is 29,000USD with 2 surgeries and 40-50days hospital stay since we have moved to a new hospital.
the extra cost you need to afford by yourself are:
1, maid care
2, food
3, extra hospital stay after free-period
how much would like to length on femur?"
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Here is correspondence I received from Wang Bei (Ronne) on behalf of Surgeon Peng:
"Dr. Peng has reviewed Xrays and confirmed all the condition is progressinggood on new generation .
you can come back for femur lengthening now if limb function recovered fully. he would like to removed the bottom screws for bone shapping at the same time of femuring lengthening.
there is no extra correction needed.
the cost for femur lengthening procedure is 29,000USD with 2 surgeries and 40-50days hospital stay since we have moved to a new hospital.
the extra cost you need to afford by yourself are:
1, maid care
2, food
3, extra hospital stay after free-period
how much would like to length on femur?"
Hey,Dude
I feel obligated to tell you external femer is nightmare and way too hard for us to sustain, I've seen two petient this year doing this with Dr xia, muscle in femur is too strong ,will lead to any kinds of external fixator distortion, and bone mislign is unavoidable ,and can not be correct to normal level , besides ,because of the frame, you cannot turn your body when you lie in bed in these servral month, that's suffering, so lots of doctor start to think it's immoral to perform femur external lengthening for health person
the pain level is too huge compare to tibia, and fail rate is very high,knee benting is hard to recover when you doing external, i'm not joke or tellling story, just think more when doing decision ,i know both Dr xia and Dr peng, i know all about them ,not that every story they says is ture
Hope you good,dude
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I replied that 7-8cm on femur was what I desired, as I already coped with that much on the tibiae, but the reply back is that they only do 4-5cm. The femur, the longest bone in the body, is 20% longer than the tibia in a typical case. So that's an odd one, don't you admit? Must be to do with the method of monorail fixation.
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It might have to do with muscle resistance being too strong for the pins when doing external femurs.
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I wonder if it would be possible to return to deadlifts, squats, and some strongman activities about 4-6 months after the surgery. What do you think MDOW? I would like to do between 7-8 cm.
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4-6 months after the 2nd surgery, yes. But be sure to ask about the weight limit of the nails before you try anything heavy.
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4-6 months after the 2nd surgery, yes. But be sure to ask about the weight limit of the nails before you try anything heavy.
By the 2nd surgery , u mean "Insertion of nails" into the bones?
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1st surgery - legs are broken, nails are put in with screws just on the top, frames are put on
2nd surgery - frames are removed, screws are put through the nails on the bottom
3rd surgery - screws/nails come out
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thnx for the info bro :)
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i don't want to overgeneralise but Chinese people are well known for making second-quality imitations of good products. Cheap but very low quality. Is it the same with LL?
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i don't want to overgeneralise but Chinese people are well known for making second-quality imitations of good products. Cheap but very low quality. Is it the same with LL?
I totally understand you bro. Which is why I ddint wanna go China. I think it might be over-generalisation, but we Asians typically avoid Chinese products and services (they are usually not of good quality , or imitation).
If I had the money, and want an Asian treatment, I think Korea is good. Singapore has too little experience in LL. For other surgeries , Singapore is good.
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i don't want to overgeneralise but Chinese people are well known for making second-quality imitations of good products. Cheap but very low quality. Is it the same with LL?
No, the frames were high quality and Dr. Peng knew what he was doing.
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Thanks for your remark, MDW. Nice to know that.
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firstly, i want to say i am sorry for my poor english, as i am from china. secondly, i am writing here to ask for some help. i did my tibia lengthen in beijing and now it is a few month after consolidation program. i experience knee pain every night until i cannot unable to sleep. unstable walking issues in additionally. my leg alignment is no good but not sure is soft tissue or x-ray?? can have soft tissue cause of bad alignment
how to find out cause???? i am thinking of fly to the American to see Doctor there.
thank u.
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please do not go find or consultation of dr peng.... it is already so long after the nail removed!
I cannot walk because of my joint pain and sleeping is a problem... and also there is a deviation for my leg, only just right leg, left leg is ok... dr peng cannot tell me is it soft tissue problem? or bone problem?!
i come to american forum because i will go to america next week to seek advices from doctors! american medicine is the best, china is no good, i am chinese PRC man but i am tell you now: china is no good. even the apple you buy a apple is looks nice, yes? but when you reach at home, it is rotten apple.. china is fake product, organ transplant without permit, dirty blood, corruption for some people, doctor are not paid well in china, so care is no so good.
please, i am advise internationel patient, go to america. yes, china forum has some good review but may be is advertised person.
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what kind of pain... is it while walking only or even when resting
where exactly
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eye
it could be just too early
almost everyone takes 1.5 years to recover
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Perhaps "eyeofthestorm" could provide us with some additional information other than "pain" followed by a few sentences of broken english?
I would also like to remind "eyeofthestorm" that none of us are actually qualified surgeons that can give snap advice on how to treat a complicated medical issue based on a few lines of inconsistent text.
Finally I would like to ask if "eyeofthestorm" could have possibly been mistaken about the geographical location in which he had his surgery done. Is there, maybe, a possiblity that he lengthened more than 5CM, not in Beijing -but in Russia?
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I received the following as PM's from a member named Eyeofstorm. I'm not sure why he's not able to start new threads or make posts, but I thought I'd share his brief story here so far since I still can post. Can anyone fix his account? I'd like to hear more about what went wrong. I'd also like to try and help with his leg issues, as I'm sure would others.
i have knee pain after doctor peng nail surgery. right leg is bent deformity too...... hi i do not understand why my post is removed? i need help about this and show bad doctor peng!!
ask crimsontide i have posted message about doctor peng is no good? and now? i cannot post anymore until moderator approved post???
what is going on??
sorry i am china...but i need to get this message to people to help people,and i need help about me condition...
I cannot start any new thread or any post because moderator no approval!!
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I received the following as PM's from a member named Eyeofstorm. I'm not sure why he's not able to start new threads or make posts, but I thought I'd share his brief story here so far since I still can post. Can anyone fix his account? I'd like to hear more about what went wrong. I'd also like to try and help with his leg issues, as I'm sure would others.
He's a faker, that's why.
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Update: The Beijing Institute of External Skeletal Fixation Technology's website has been updated to reflect that Dr. Aiming Peng is the official successor to Professor Xia.
http://leg-lengthening.com/
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Beijing - offers NO physical therapy. Before/During or After.
Operation done 3 weeks ago: 9/17/2015
I only lenthened 4 cm and after the nail went in, 2 weeks later, I'm in physical ltherapy 3x week with ballerina foot on left foot mostly -30degrees - horrible ! Very painful to stand against wall and press. P/T is hard but worth it. I'm scared to death I won't walk again !!!
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I got ballerina foot and still have with no end in sight. I only 4cm too.
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my mom said dont do ll in china. im from shandong (中国山东烟台）i dont trust china. i watch a video. many cant walk after forever
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After physical therapy and exercising at home stretching calf by standing against wall, I'm finally at -10 degrees on left foot. on Right I dont have ballerina foot anymore. Very scary. Orthopedic doctor said that in one month I won't need walker anymore and in another four months, swelling in foot should go down completely and scars should be very light - I use Mederma for scarring.
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neverending, do you have a diary? I'm thinking about China but want to see if it's legit. Seems like a lot has changed over there.
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I contacted http://www.leg-lengthening.com/ asking about Dr. Aimin Peng personally, but I got a reply from Dr. Roger Li, saying that it's actually Dr. Xiao who does the operation... they kind of dodged my question. Does he not work there anymore or what? :o
And I did post their reply under Dr. Xia's forum topic section.
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我是中国人,我对中国的所有能做"断骨增高"的医生都非常的清楚,夏医生已经不做手术了哦并且彭爱民医生也不做手术了