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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Height & Proportions => Topic started by: KrP1 on August 22, 2014, 05:00:32 PM

Title: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on August 22, 2014, 05:00:32 PM
All my life i have been very short. When i was in the school i was the second shortest guy in a classroom with more than 20 boys. In the institute i was the shortest in the classroom. and now in my work i have been working in 3 diferent places and always im the shortest guy. People talks about how short i am and says to others that im a dward at my back. It really sucks. People makes jokes about my height that really hurts. I have a job where height is very important so been short is like you arent so cualified for it than the others.

Almost every girl cares a lot about height so is dificult to get dates. Im a good looking guy with a muscular body. But been 165cm have made lots of girls to reject me. They say that my face is beautifull but im too short and they dont like short guys. My girlfriends doesnt care a lot about height but they always told me that it is a problem that im so short.

Life at this height doesnt allow me to live at its fullest. So i want to do LL for 10cm 5cm in tibs and 5 in femurs.
91cm sitting height. 168cm armspawn. 165 height. Yes . I have a short armspawn . If i see that i get out of proportion i will stop before. But never under 173cm. I will do my dream a reallity in july 2015. And start a new life where my height wouldnt be a handicap anymore.

Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: FutureTaller on August 22, 2014, 06:31:57 PM
I was also the shortest kid (or one of the shortest) from kindergarten all the way until university (where there were many guys this height). The way I see it, there are 2 kinds of benefits from this surgery. The main one is psychological.  Increased height gives me self confidence. The side benefit is that more girls will be attracted to me. At 5'7, I've never asked a girl out but I know that they are heightist.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: kunta kinte on August 22, 2014, 07:08:19 PM
Go for it man! Youve only got ine life. Best of luck to you.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on August 22, 2014, 07:49:54 PM
My first choice is mitkovic. With his external device. My budget is around 30k euros
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: ShortyMcShort on August 22, 2014, 11:13:49 PM
Why are people still considering Mitkovic when he hasn't even replied back to anyone in god knows how long...? Nobody knows if he's even still in the industry? Have you received a reply back from him yet? I too was interested in Dr Mitkovic initially but then he went AWOL  >:(

Do let us know if you get a reply back from him
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on August 23, 2014, 11:51:03 AM
Why are people still considering Mitkovic when he hasn't even replied back to anyone in god knows how long...? Nobody knows if he's even still in the industry? Have you received a reply back from him yet? I too was interested in Dr Mitkovic initially but then he went AWOL  >:(

Do let us know if you get a reply back from him


He doesnt reply my emails. Probably  i would take a flight to serbia if he doesnt reply when i will be near the  surgery. If he doesnt accept me as a patient i will choose another option
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: TRS on August 23, 2014, 11:58:00 AM

He doesnt reply my emails. Probably  i would take a flight to serbia if he doesnt reply when i will be near the  surgery. If he doesnt accept me as a patient i will choose another option
Have you seen Dr.Alex Monegal who resides in Barcelona or any other LL doctors in Spain?
If you do get a reply from Dr.Mitkovic then it will be great! He seems to be a very good doctor.
Since your from Spain you have the benefit of travelling to other European countries for cheap! You should see the doctors in Russia, Jamal in Ukraine, Dr Inan in Turkey seems a very good option for externals/LON, Dr.Metin Kucukkaya is another option in Turkey who seems to offer both Precice 2 internal and external methods. There is another Turkish doctor named Dr.Mehmet Kocaoglu who offers only external/combination method.
The doctors in Italy will also be worth seeing like Dr.Maurizio Catagni...
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on August 23, 2014, 06:58:17 PM
Have you seen Dr.Alex Monegal who resides in Barcelona or any other LL doctors in Spain?
If you do get a reply from Dr.Mitkovic then it will be great! He seems to be a very good doctor.
Since your from Spain you have the benefit of travelling to other European countries for cheap! You should see the doctors in Russia, Jamal in Ukraine, Dr Inan in Turkey seems a very good option for externals/LON, Dr.Metin Kucukkaya is another option in Turkey who seems to offer both Precice 2 internal and external methods. There is another Turkish doctor named Dr.Mehmet Kocaoglu who offers only external/combination method.
The doctors in Italy will also be worth seeing like Dr.Maurizio Catagni...

No i havent seen any doctor from my country. Alex Monegal is too expensive for my budget. I want to do tibs and femurs so with my budget i only could do external only or LON/LATN. Could you send a message to Daemon with contact information about those turkish doctors? I dont know about them except Dr Inan
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: TRS on August 23, 2014, 07:12:28 PM
No i havent seen any doctor from my country. Alex Monegal is too expensive for my budget. I want to do tibs and femurs so with my budget i only could do external only or LON/LATN. Could you send a message to Daemon with contact information about those turkish doctors? I dont know about them except Dr Inan
Yes I will send him a message. I emailed Dr.Kucukkaya many times several months ago but did not get any response from him. I am sure that both of these doctors perform CLL. But hopefully Dameon can get in touch with these doctors. I will try too.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: TRS on August 23, 2014, 07:49:16 PM
When considering your budget, i believe that dr.mitkovic or the Russian doctors will be the best choice if you go for both tibias and femurs. Maybe dr.paihar is another good option for tibias.
I'd recommend you save up for internal femurs if yoy do decide to undergo femoral lengthening.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Mw1245 on August 23, 2014, 08:00:14 PM
I also live in europe and im 5.2-5.3 (158-160cm) I can not accurately measure.
i want 10 cm on my tibias and 8 cm on my femurs. I know it's over the limit but I do not want to think about my size.The life is really bad man.I feel me so short.I do not want to hear from others that Im small. If i sit in the tram and have with a girl eyes contact,i want accost them and not wait until the last station.
the life is my hell. i can really feel you.


Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on August 23, 2014, 08:43:14 PM
When considering your budget, i believe that dr.mitkovic or the Russian doctors will be the best choice if you go for both tibias and femurs. Maybe dr.paihar is another good option for tibias.
I'd recommend you save up for internal femurs if yoy do decide to undergo femoral lengthening.

Here in spain the average salary is low. I have been thinking about do external tibias and internal femurs. But the reallity is that i cant earn so much money. My option is do it with external/LON/LATN. Russian doctors could be a good choice
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on August 23, 2014, 08:48:46 PM
I also live in europe and im 5.2-5.3 (158-160cm) I can not accurately measure.
i want 10 cm on my tibias and 8 cm on my femurs. I know it's over the limit but I do not want to think about my size.The life is really bad man.I feel me so short.I do not want to hear from others that Im small. If i sit in the tram and have with a girl eyes contact,i want accost them and not wait until the last station.
the life is my hell. i can really feel you.

I can understand you.  But 10cm in tibias is very difficult. If you have the money and your proportions are good. Go for a more reallistic goal like 10/12cm in total
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Mw1245 on August 23, 2014, 09:00:38 PM
I can understand you.  But 10cm in tibias is very difficult. If you have the money and your proportions are good. Go for a more reallistic goal like 10/12cm in total

i dont know exactly not yet. i have a lot of time, must save money but i want at least 16 cm. this is more reallistic i think 8 cm tibias is also difficult but if i think i have a better life after ll it will be worth.
10 or 12 cm is to short for me i think.I do not want look back and say why i have not done
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Taller on August 23, 2014, 10:31:38 PM
See if you still feel that way after you've hit the 6CM mark.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: LittleWhiteMan on August 23, 2014, 11:00:01 PM
I know it sucks being 165... but well there are way shorter people, including me (I am 154 cm, probably 155 cm but doesn't make a difference at all). You might be short but at least you are not considered a little kid like me, everywhere I go people tell me if I am 12 or 13 years old (surprisingly because I had my growth spurt at age 12 and never grew another inch from then haha). So yeah, some people are literally stuck in their puberty body like me, you at least might seem like a teenager-adult shape. And about the average height, that's the problem of living in USA, it has been the most discriminatory nation for centuries (see slavery, chicano movements, asian workers mistreatment in California, etc), so don't expect respect from a group of people whose average height goes as small as 175 cm to as big as 195 cm). In my opinion, since you are saying you are spaniard, I would return to Spain, or go somewhere else but USA, Canada, UK, Netherlands or any other anglo-country. Argentina, Colombia, Mexico, Japan, Korea, Chile, Italy, France, Greece, all are some good countries whose average height goes from 168 cm to 175 cm (being 180 the tallest probably). Ofcourse, unless you are me, you may suffer the same experience that you would have in USA being 165, I remember back in my sophomore year when I was new to an anglo school and when I told everyone I was 5'1" tall they told me "wow the shortest person I've ever met was 165 cm", in any other country they might tell you it is 150 or 155 cm or a dwarf height (110-130). Still I don't have control over your life and I don't know the reason why you are in US (work, college, etc) so I hope you the best dude, 165 isn't a bad height, neither 162 or 160, there are a lot of celebrities who are around that height, as well as famous persons. 155 cm is actually hell, thats the average PETITE GIRL height (I'm not even petite lol I am fit (not buffed) with kind of broad shoulders).
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: RGKEY on August 24, 2014, 01:10:36 AM
it's interesting how it is all relative to your own stature. if u r 154 you will be glad to be 165, if you 165 youll be glad to be 175, if you are 175 glad to be 185. and others even 190-95. there was a guy who was 188 and wanted to do LL to be 195. some funny   the perception business.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Taller on August 24, 2014, 06:09:30 AM
Did the 188CM guy go through with it?
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Mw1245 on August 24, 2014, 01:34:33 PM
it's interesting how it is all relative to your own stature. if u r 154 you will be glad to be 165, if you 165 youll be glad to be 175, if you are 175 glad to be 185. and others even 190-95. there was a guy who was 188 and wanted to do LL to be 195. some funny s**t the perception business.

im 158-160 and i want to be 175-177
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: RGKEY on August 24, 2014, 05:57:04 PM
Did the 188CM guy go through with it?

no he didnt as far as I know
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: RGKEY on August 24, 2014, 05:57:56 PM
im 158-160 and i want to be 175-177

and I was 163 and would love to be 182 lol but glad to be at least 172
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Mw1245 on August 24, 2014, 07:39:13 PM
and I was 163 and would love to be 182 lol but glad to be at least 172

you did 9 cm on tibias and you want maybe also femurs i think. i read that you think about it. i would love to be 187 lol but thats unpossible. 8cm on tibias and 8 cm on femurs is good realistic i think .

what differences gives your earlier life and the life after ll ? how does it feel ?
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: RGKEY on August 24, 2014, 09:33:08 PM
you did 9 cm on tibias and you want maybe also femurs i think. i read that you think about it. i would love to be 187 lol but thats unpossible. 8cm on tibias and 8 cm on femurs is good realistic i think .

what differences gives your earlier life and the life after ll ? how does it feel ?

for once, i was definitely getting laid a lot more before leg lengthening, now i cant do sports, everything is in slower motion. so in a way life is more difficult than before LL or I would say hasnt change much but it might be just temporal until i get 100 percent recovered. I dont think it has help me a lot more externally honestly. maybe now i get better first impression in girls im not sure, honestely I would lie if I say oh been 9cms taller is super awesome, it's ok I guess it is definitely better, but Lifts can also take you far
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Mw1245 on August 24, 2014, 09:51:52 PM
for once, i was definitely getting laid a lot more before leg lengthening, now i cant do sports, everything is in slower motion. so in a way life is more difficult than before LL or I would say hasnt change much but it might be just temporal until i get 100 percent recovered. I dont think it has help me a lot more externally honestly. maybe now i get better first impression in girls im not sure, honestely I would lie if I say oh been 9cms taller is super awesome, it's ok I guess it is definitely better, but Lifts can also take you far

i understand you. i dont want say my life is the hell because it gives a lot of people that have a bad life than me. i mean i want really that ll and i have a lot of time but i must save a lot of money.lol
i recommend for you pilates. pilates is really good for the muscles and it is also not so difficult maybe you can make that.
and dont forget spinach and avocado for the bones.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on August 25, 2014, 08:43:35 AM
I know it sucks being 165... but well there are way shorter people, including me (I am 154 cm, probably 155 cm but doesn't make a difference at all). You might be short but at least you are not considered a little kid like me, everywhere I go people tell me if I am 12 or 13 years old (surprisingly because I had my growth spurt at age 12 and never grew another inch from then haha). So yeah, some people are literally stuck in their puberty body like me, you at least might seem like a teenager-adult shape. And about the average height, that's the problem of living in USA, it has been the most discriminatory nation for centuries (see slavery, chicano movements, asian workers mistreatment in California, etc), so don't expect respect from a group of people whose average height goes as small as 175 cm to as big as 195 cm). In my opinion, since you are saying you are spaniard, I would return to Spain, or go somewhere else but USA, Canada, UK, Netherlands or any other anglo-country. Argentina, Colombia, Mexico, Japan, Korea, Chile, Italy, France, Greece, all are some good countries whose average height goes from 168 cm to 175 cm (being 180 the tallest probably). Ofcourse, unless you are me, you may suffer the same experience that you would have in USA being 165, I remember back in my sophomore year when I was new to an anglo school and when I told everyone I was 5'1" tall they told me "wow the shortest person I've ever met was 165 cm", in any other country they might tell you it is 150 or 155 cm or a dwarf height (110-130). Still I don't have control over your life and I don't know the reason why you are in US (work, college, etc) so I hope you the best dude, 165 isn't a bad height, neither 162 or 160, there are a lot of celebrities who are around that height, as well as famous persons. 155 cm is actually hell, thats the average PETITE GIRL height (I'm not even petite lol I am fit (not buffed) with kind of broad shoulders).

Hello. I dont know why you think im living in USA. I live in Spain. average height in spain isnt less than in USA and people cares A LOT about height. In the TV there are continous references to peoples height. Spanish TV stars that are short are measured in their programs to see how tall they are and all people that is watching the TV could know their height. there is a very famous program about dates in Spain. It name is Mujeres y hombres y vicebersa. You need to be beautifull . Muscular and tall to be there. Almost all the guys in the program are over 180cm. And guys that havent got this requieriments are rejected. Is an example of how the society is right now. I think that in every first developed world country will be the same.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Overdozer on August 25, 2014, 10:24:05 AM
there is a very famous program about dates in Spain. It name is Mujeres y hombres y vicebersa. You need to be beautifull . Muscular and tall to be there
Why are you watching that   anyways? It's apparently made by degenerates for degenerates. You have to understand that they're targetting specific society group, the ones that are to obsessed with looks, the stupid ones. There are obviously other, higher level and intelligence groups, you should strive to them and ignore the plebs.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: IwannaBeTaller on August 25, 2014, 10:46:49 AM
Hello. I dont know why you think im living in USA. I live in Spain. average height in spain isnt less than in USA and people cares A LOT about height. In the TV there are continous references to peoples height. Spanish TV stars that are short are measured in their programs to see how tall they are and all people that is watching the TV could know their height. there is a very famous program about dates in Spain. It name is Mujeres y hombres y vicebersa. You need to be beautifull . Muscular and tall to be there. Almost all the guys in the program are over 180cm. And guys that havent got this requieriments are rejected. Is an example of how the society is right now. I think that in every first developed world country will be the same.

But on the other hand, quite a lot of Spanish football stars are only 170 or so.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: sadboy on August 25, 2014, 01:22:58 PM
for once, i was definitely getting laid a lot more before leg lengthening, now i cant do sports, everything is in slower motion. so in a way life is more difficult than before LL or I would say hasnt change much but it might be just temporal until i get 100 percent recovered. I dont think it has help me a lot more externally honestly. maybe now i get better first impression in girls im not sure, honestely I would lie if I say oh been 9cms taller is super awesome, it's ok I guess it is definitely better, but Lifts can also take you far

Are you trying to say that your life became worse after LL? Because in a way that's what it sounds like from what you wrote.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: FutureTaller on August 25, 2014, 02:12:56 PM
Are you trying to say that your life became worse after LL? Because in a way that's what it sounds like from what you wrote.


It depends on how much you lengthen as well as each individuals body. Im hitting the gym and one reason is to prep for the surgery.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: TRS on August 25, 2014, 04:25:45 PM


It depends on how much you lengthen as well as each individuals body. Im hitting the gym and one reason is to prep for the surgery.
You should focus on leg/hip flexibility and upper body strength! Don't bulk up especially if you consider the PRECICE nail. The less weight the better!
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: TRS on August 25, 2014, 04:44:44 PM
Why are you watching that s**t anyways? It's apparently made by degenerates for degenerates. You have to understand that they're targetting specific society group, the ones that are to obsessed with looks, the stupid ones. There are obviously other, higher level and intelligence groups, you should strive to them and ignore the plebs.
I agree with Exclide. TV shows like this usually brainwash people with low level of intelligence. I honestly believe that there is no one single height (e.g. 180cm, 183cm) to attract females. There will be females who will be interested in you regardless of what height you are. One observation I made in my country is that the prettiest and intelligent females tend to be with guys who are generally between 5'6-6'0.  I have seen guys who are below 5'6 also score extremely gorgeous women. One of the most beautiful woman I have seen was with a guy about 5'5. I also see women date guys shorter than them. There is this blonde, blue eyed 6 foot lady next to my apartment who is dating a 5'9 man. I always raise my eyebrows when I read about guys who believe that height is a disadvantage at 5'10 or above and consider LL surgery especially when I see guys around 5'6-5'10 score the best looking women.
Another observation I have made is that girls that are extremely picky about height and want guys only above 6'0 tend to put extreme amount of makeup or tend to be physically less attractive than girls who are not very picky. Maybe it shows lower self esteem and therefore compensate by dating taller guys. Generally they are also loudmouths and speak in slang or vulgar.
I believe that they are extremely influenced and brainwashed by TV shows such as the dating show you have mentioned and low intelligent shows like Jersey shore etc...
 
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: IwannaBeTaller on August 25, 2014, 04:50:53 PM
I agree with Exclide. TV shows like this usually brainwash people with low level of intelligence. I honestly believe that there is no one single height (e.g. 180cm, 183cm) to attract females. There will be females who will be interested in you regardless of what height you are. One observation I made in my country is that the prettiest and intelligent females tend to be with guys who are generally between 5'6-6'0.  I have seen guys who are below 5'6 also score extremely gorgeous women. One of the most beautiful woman I have seen was with a guy about 5'5. I also see women date guys shorter than them. There is this blonde, blue eyed 6 foot lady next to my apartment who is dating a 5'9 man. I always raise my eyebrows when I read about guys who believe that height is a disadvantage at 5'10 or above and consider LL surgery especially when I see guys around 5'6-5'10 score the best looking women.
Another observation I have made is that girls that are extremely picky about height and want guys only above 6'0 tend to put extreme amount of makeup or tend to be physically less attractive than girls who are not very picky. Maybe it shows lower self esteem and therefore compensate by dating taller guys. Generally they are also loudmouths and speak in slang or vulgar.
I believe that they are extremely influenced and brainwashed by TV shows such as the dating show you have mentioned and low intelligent shows like Jersey shore etc...
 

Excellent post, I totally agree with you.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: OverrideYouGenetics on August 25, 2014, 05:30:19 PM
If i sit in the tram and have with a girl eyes contact,i want accost them and not wait until the last station.

i didnt understand that. u wait till last station even when u dont live there?
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: FutureTaller on August 25, 2014, 05:35:10 PM
You should focus on leg/hip flexibility and upper body strength! Don't bulk up especially if you consider the PRECICE nail. The less weight the better!


Got ya. I'm still skinny because I just started. I'll just stick to long distance running to prep for the surgery.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Taller on August 25, 2014, 09:06:40 PM
Hi Therisingshorty. If all 5'10 guys who sought LL wanted to do it only to attract women, then I'd agree with you 100%. However, there are many other factors and that go into the decision for a good many of us. Read the "been obsessed with height for 6 years and wanting LL" thread to get a sense of some of these factors.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: TRS on August 25, 2014, 09:14:51 PM
Hi Therisingshorty. If all 5'10 guys who sought LL wanted to do it only to attract women, then I agree with you 100%. However, there are many other factors and that go into the decision for a good many of us. Read the "been obsessed with height for 6 years and wanting LL" thread to get a sense of some of these factors.
I agree that there are other factors that can result in height neurosis and I have nothing against people over 5'10 who are considering LL, provided they are fully aware of the complications and consequences of CLL. Height is definitely relative. But if the reason is to attract women then maybe....LL is not the true solution at 5'10 or above. 
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Wannabegiant on August 25, 2014, 10:13:34 PM
I agree with Exclide. TV shows like this usually brainwash people with low level of intelligence. I honestly believe that there is no one single height (e.g. 180cm, 183cm) to attract females. There will be females who will be interested in you regardless of what height you are. One observation I made in my country is that the prettiest and intelligent females tend to be with guys who are generally between 5'6-6'0.  I have seen guys who are below 5'6 also score extremely gorgeous women. One of the most beautiful woman I have seen was with a guy about 5'5. I also see women date guys shorter than them. There is this blonde, blue eyed 6 foot lady next to my apartment who is dating a 5'9 man. I always raise my eyebrows when I read about guys who believe that height is a disadvantage at 5'10 or above and consider LL surgery especially when I see guys around 5'6-5'10 score the best looking women.
Another observation I have made is that girls that are extremely picky about height and want guys only above 6'0 tend to put extreme amount of makeup or tend to be physically less attractive than girls who are not very picky. Maybe it shows lower self esteem and therefore compensate by dating taller guys. Generally they are also loudmouths and speak in slang or vulgar.
I believe that they are extremely influenced and brainwashed by TV shows such as the dating show you have mentioned and low intelligent shows like Jersey shore etc...
 

Yeah I agree with you, the girls who i met that where very shallow also most of the time happened to be very unintelligent. I mean usually they have really bad grades at school or are drop outs, (unless they try to get help from infatuated nerds) and they also believe in pretty much anything they see on TV without questioning it. They also tend to follow trends almost obsessively because they crave attention and are very concerned about what other people think about them (and despite this they try to hide it by posting on their social media blogs how much they dont give a fk (because thats the cool thing to say these days..)
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: sadboy on August 26, 2014, 11:37:25 AM
I agree with Exclide. TV shows like this usually brainwash people with low level of intelligence. I honestly believe that there is no one single height (e.g. 180cm, 183cm) to attract females. There will be females who will be interested in you regardless of what height you are. One observation I made in my country is that the prettiest and intelligent females tend to be with guys who are generally between 5'6-6'0.  I have seen guys who are below 5'6 also score extremely gorgeous women. One of the most beautiful woman I have seen was with a guy about 5'5. I also see women date guys shorter than them. There is this blonde, blue eyed 6 foot lady next to my apartment who is dating a 5'9 man. I always raise my eyebrows when I read about guys who believe that height is a disadvantage at 5'10 or above and consider LL surgery especially when I see guys around 5'6-5'10 score the best looking women.
Another observation I have made is that girls that are extremely picky about height and want guys only above 6'0 tend to put extreme amount of makeup or tend to be physically less attractive than girls who are not very picky. Maybe it shows lower self esteem and therefore compensate by dating taller guys. Generally they are also loudmouths and speak in slang or vulgar.
I believe that they are extremely influenced and brainwashed by TV shows such as the dating show you have mentioned and low intelligent shows like Jersey shore etc...
 

It still doesn't mean that short guys won't want to be taller (I'm talking about the ones that have complex about their height). I would still want to be taller even if the hottest woman was dating me and she didn't care about my height. You are still going to find a woman even if you are short, it will just increase the chances if you are taller that's it. Anyway, I don't want to become taller for women, I'm doing it for myself; I could care less if people rejected me for my height, that shows they weren't for me anyway...
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: FutureTaller on August 26, 2014, 12:41:46 PM
It still doesn't mean that short guys won't want to be taller (I'm talking about the ones that have complex about their height). I would still want to be taller even if the hottest woman was dating me and she didn't care about my height. You are still going to find a woman even if you are short, it will just increase the chances if you are taller that's it. Anyway, I don't want to become taller for women, I'm doing it for myself; I could care less if people rejected me for my height, that shows they weren't for me anyway...


Exactly. The Confidence Boost is neccessary. I want to experience a good feeling when I get up everyday.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: TRS on August 26, 2014, 01:46:43 PM
It still doesn't mean that short guys won't want to be taller (I'm talking about the ones that have complex about their height). I would still want to be taller even if the hottest woman was dating me and she didn't care about my height. You are still going to find a woman even if you are short, it will just increase the chances if you are taller that's it. Anyway, I don't want to become taller for women, I'm doing it for myself; I could care less if people rejected me for my height, that shows they weren't for me anyway...
This is exactly why I'm currently doing LL. I want to gain more confidence in myself and end most of the height discrimination I face everyday
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on August 26, 2014, 02:27:38 PM
Height discrimination is the most important reason why i do this. Womans that doesnt want to date with short guys is a kind of discrimination too. Another reason is not to feel fisical inferior . Now i feel this way with lots of people that are one head over me. Including lots of womans
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Mw1245 on August 26, 2014, 02:50:44 PM
i didnt understand that. u wait till last station even when u dont live there?

not always and of course not if i don't live there but i think always what happened if i stand up and she says oo he is so short and its normal i am 158-160.
two girls on the street I do not know look at me and say loud he is very  small.maybe you know how that feels
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on August 26, 2014, 02:59:15 PM
not always and of course not if i don't live there but i think always what happened if i stand up and she says oo he is so short and its normal i am 158-160.
two girls on the street I do not know look at me and say loud he is very  small.maybe you know how that feels

I think that those comments stop when you are 169/170cm
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Mw1245 on August 26, 2014, 11:52:45 PM
I think that those comments stop when you are 169/170cm

can be but i i think i need more. i want 175-177 lol its very difficult but yeah i have time and i must now save money. i have a lot of time to think about it.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: GeTs on August 27, 2014, 12:07:15 AM
I think that those comments stop when you are 169/170cm
not in europe
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on August 27, 2014, 03:12:59 AM
not in europe

Yes. Probably it is more at 174. I have a friend of that height and he never told me that he have height discrimination
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: GeTs on August 27, 2014, 08:42:47 AM
Yes. Probably it is more at 174. I have a friend of that height and he never told me that he have height discrimination
meh here one Europe average doesn't exist and is considered short, u're wither short or either tallhttp://
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Overdozer on August 27, 2014, 08:51:48 AM
These comments stop when you get a gun or a knife and hang it on your waist lol

If you're in the most average percentile 25 to 75, which is average of your country +-5, for EU and US should be 174-184, which is 50% of male population, 25% are taller and 25% are shorter. So yea you won't attract much attention if you're there.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KiloKAHN on August 27, 2014, 09:26:08 AM
I think only those with height dysphoria believe there's only tall or short and no in between.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Mw1245 on August 27, 2014, 03:44:37 PM
i just dont want to be small and not thinking about my size as now.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Dr Monegal on September 11, 2014, 12:02:18 AM
Hi all

I do recommend internal devices for cosmetic purpose.
Prices are extremely hight because of the implants.
I Also perform LON which is not as safe as internal devices but it is cheaper.
I hope someday implants become cheaper but my Plan B is definitely LON.

Best regards
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on September 11, 2014, 07:59:39 AM
Hello Dr.Monegal. nice to see you in the forum. How many cm do you think can be done with relative safety with LON in femurs and tibias. What external fixator do you use?  And what do you  think about knee pain after LON? Thanks.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on September 11, 2014, 12:08:33 PM
I have measured my armspawn another time. If i stretch my arms to its maximum  i have 170cm.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Overdozer on September 11, 2014, 04:48:43 PM
Everyone here seems to have arm spans greater than their height by 8 cm and more lol fml
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Taller on September 11, 2014, 05:51:37 PM
What is your arm span, Exilde?
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KiloKAHN on September 11, 2014, 05:55:00 PM
I guess 5cm past your wingspan should be fine. At 162cm, my armspan is also 170cm but my final target height is 172cm. The main thing is that you don't want to end up looking like T-Rex.
I think some people can pull off the t-rex arms. Mostly the really stocky ones though. I think one way to make the t-rex arms better is by getting really bulked up. Your arms will be short but because the rest of you is big people will assume it just appears that way because of the mass and will accept it as a more natural thing.

Rhino pulls off the t-rex arm thing well.
(http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t/20001379_Rhino.jpg) (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20001379/Rhino.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Overdozer on September 11, 2014, 06:12:59 PM
What is your arm span, Exilde?
It's 170 cm
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: TRS on September 11, 2014, 07:50:25 PM
I think some people can pull off the t-rex arms. Mostly the really stocky ones though. I think one way to make the t-rex arms better is by getting really bulked up. Your arms will be short but because the rest of you is big people will assume it just appears that way because of the mass and will accept it as a more natural thing.

Rhino pulls off the t-rex arm thing well.
(http://s5d2.turboimagehost.com/t/20001379_Rhino.jpg) (http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/20001379/Rhino.jpg.html)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Vsf-psBipcc/TNmyCg_MVOI/AAAAAAAAAso/iHEVoWH27Y0/s1600/mj8uv.jpg)
Eric Young also seems to be a T-Rex. But I agree that stocky people do pull off the t-rex look. I never realised rhinos shorter armspan.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Overdozer on September 11, 2014, 08:09:28 PM
It makes little to no sense bulking up to make your arms look not so short. Something that is thicker and same length visually appears shorter - an obvious illusion... Both of these guys would probably look better if they were skinny
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Taller on September 11, 2014, 09:00:54 PM
Exilde, how proportionate do you feel that you look, generally speaking, after lengthening so much?
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Overdozer on September 11, 2014, 09:09:14 PM
I feel less proportionate, than I was before.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: KrP1 on September 11, 2014, 09:23:36 PM
Hey exclide . Could you post a photo of your proportions without your face?
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Overdozer on September 11, 2014, 09:39:39 PM
Hey exclide . Could you post a photo of your proportions without your face?
I'm still consolidating at 177 with huge frames wrapped around my legs and with difference in leg length. My legs are also as thin as my arms, I weight 50kg. You DON'T want to see that, lol. I will post photos and videos eventually when I complete the whole process, but you'll have to wait at least 10 months for that lol.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: 123 on September 11, 2014, 11:23:11 PM
I'm still consolidating at 177 with huge frames wrapped around my legs and with difference in leg length. My legs are also as thin as my arms, I weight 50kg. You DON'T want to see that, lol. I will post photos and videos eventually when I complete the whole process, but you'll have to wait at least 10 months for that lol.

Wow, your situation sounds horrible. I wish you a lot of energy dude. I can't even imagine what you have to go through.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Morgenst. on September 12, 2014, 07:57:31 AM
It's 170 cm

What about your sitting height?
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Leo on September 12, 2014, 09:37:53 AM
I'm just like you man. But for my situation it's worst! I live in scandinavia and the average height here is 182cm. At 165cm I feel like a midget. I currently wear elevator shoes to give me a boost. Some of my shoes give me approx. 5-6cm.. I'm on the same path of doing both femurs and tibias, aiming for at least 6-7cm for both reaching my ultimate goal at 179cm but I can live with being 175cm - absolutely no problem!. I'm good looking & muscular but women cares so much more about height, it really defines who you are. And one of the reason I want to get taller is that if I ever married someone I will aim to have a tall girl so that my children will not go through hell.

You should aim for at least 6cm while you're at it. I don't know however if it's better to do Tibias or Femurs first? But I have read that femurs are somewhat more complicated because of the quad muscles.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Tylerdurden389 on September 12, 2014, 11:46:15 AM
You guys really consider those wrestlers to have "T-Rex" arms? I actually spent the last 7 or 8 years thinking my arms were too long for my height cuz they go to literally the halfway point on my thighs. My armspan is exactly my height by the way, 158 cm.
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: Greek-Semidget on September 12, 2014, 01:03:17 PM
I am 173cm barefoot and average height in Greece is 178, but What the fk in my school 178 people are on the short side xD I am towered even by girls...at summer I didn't felt that short but Jesus...all these basketball players...pain in the ass. I am super social but this whole thing eats me I feel that at 5'11 I would just feel more comfortable...thats all :( .And I want to travel to another country, I am selling a property of mine and if I sell it I would earn roughly 100k euros my self....i would just pick 15.000 euros for my CLL and maybe 30.000 for a college out of my freaking country. So mad...
Title: Re: Life at 165cm.
Post by: TRS on September 12, 2014, 02:07:01 PM
You guys really consider those wrestlers to have "T-Rex" arms? I actually spent the last 7 or 8 years thinking my arms were too long for my height cuz they go to literally the halfway point on my thighs. My armspan is exactly my height by the way, 158 cm.
I think that we, the people who consider or undergo LL, tend to overthink about proportions. I guess the normal population will not see the shorter armspan, unless if someone goes and does extreme amount of lengthening and creates very obvious disproportion.
With the above wrestlers, I did not realise Rhinos shorter armspan but I only realised Eric Youngs armspan after I became aware of LL and proportions.
At 158cm, I guess extra 10 cm will not create obvious disproportion if you do decide to lengthen both tibias and femurs.