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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: Lucky star on November 21, 2021, 07:43:58 AM

Title: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 21, 2021, 07:43:58 AM
The physical examination has been completed, and my surgery will be performed next week. The first surgery is on the tibia.
Under the protection of privacy, I will answer questions.
I don’t know how much pain will happen after the operation? So not sure when it will be updated.
When I am not uncomfortable, I will come to record my experience, I hope it will be helpful to everyone.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: V21 on November 21, 2021, 09:08:12 AM
I know your surgery has been postoponed time after time due to Precice not coming back in time¡ I was going to do Precice, but in the end opted for G Nail. Wish you the best¡
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: thankscience on November 21, 2021, 09:52:03 AM
The physical examination has been completed, and my surgery will be performed next week. The first surgery is on the tibia.
Under the protection of privacy, I will answer questions.
I don’t know how much pain will happen after the operation? So not sure when it will be updated.
When I am not uncomfortable, I will come to record my experience, I hope it will be helpful to everyone.
Good luck! Are you doing both tibias and femurs at the same time?

Also what does the physical examination with Dr G entail?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 21, 2021, 08:09:26 PM
Yes, it has been postponed. Finally, tomorrow is a big day. Thank you.
 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 21, 2021, 08:11:01 PM
I know your surgery has been postoponed time after time due to Precice not coming back in time¡ I was going to do Precice, but in the end opted for G Nail. Wish you the best¡

Yes, it has been postponed. Finally, tomorrow is a big day. Thank you.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 21, 2021, 08:17:51 PM
Good luck! Are you doing both tibias and femurs at the same time?

Also what does the physical examination with Dr G entail?

Yes, I'll do the tibia tomorrow morning and the femur in about 3-4 weeks.

I had X-ray, chest film, ECG, blood pressure, blood drawing, virus test, inquiry and examination of cardiac experts, and doctors broke my legs.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 21, 2021, 08:33:29 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, I have been hospitalized, I have a retention needle in my hand, and I have finished brushing my teeth and washing my face with one right hand. The doctor checked all the food I brought. Most of what I brought were all kinds of fruits, nuts and protein drinks, which can be eaten. For nutritional supplement, I brought liquid D3 and calcium tablets. The doctor said D3 is OK, but calcium tablets can't be eaten during hospitalization. In the hospital, I met two handsome men I saw in the rehabilitation center last time. One of them was across the glass of the hospital gate. I waved to him six times. He finally found that I was greeting him. Hahaha, after all, it has been nearly two months since I saw him last time. Sleep and get up tomorrow morning for surgery. Happy, nervous, scared... But I know this is what I've been waiting for. Good night, friends.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: LU213 on November 22, 2021, 01:15:08 AM
I hope all went well with your surgery.  I think I met you when I was there. Congratulations on your journey to your dream height.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 26, 2021, 05:43:07 PM
I hope all went well with your surgery.  I think I met you when I was there. Congratulations on your journey to your dream height.

Thank you, everything went well for my operation. I was discharged from the hospital at noon today. I was very happy. The doctor changed my dressing before I was discharged. I saw the wound and treated it well. When I was hospitalized, I kept my laptop in the cabinet of the room, so I never used the computer, so I saw your message. Are you the one I saw in the office? Or the one who saw me when I beckoned frantically?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 26, 2021, 05:49:36 PM
I was discharged from the hospital at noon today and returned to my hotel. I feel very happy because I have eaten delicious food and feel that my whole person is full of blood and resurrected. After I was discharged from the hospital today, I asked the driver to take me to several places... so Today I am a little tired and I need to rest. I used my mobile phone to record what happened during the hospitalization. When I rest, I will share my experiences and feelings soon.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 27, 2021, 06:02:59 PM
November 22, 2021 (Surgery Day)

Woke up at 6:30 by the alarm clock, finished washing with one hand, and sat waiting for the doctor. The doctor came and talked for a while and then went to prepare. The nurse sent a small pants and robe that were bigger than my skirt, which needed a vacuum. Then I was pushed into the operating room with a bed, the anesthesiologist asked me some questions, and then I fell asleep.

I woke up in the observation room and stayed for a long time, and then pushed me back to the ward halfway. I asked the male nurse who pushed me to have a small basin of vomiting. He went back to the ward and tossed me on the bed. I asked him how old he is now. point? He said two o'clock in the afternoon, and then I stayed in bed.
Here is a compliment, this male nurse is handsome and gentle.

At 7 o'clock in the evening, I delivered the first dinner after the operation, a bowl of oil-free and salt-free noodles and a box of jelly. I drank half of the noodle soup and ate 3 scoops of noodles, a sip of jelly... and then vomited it all back into the bowl in half an hour.

From the time I woke up after the operation until 8:30 in the evening, there was no pain. I thought I was a wizard of broken bones!

My legs started to hurt a little at 8:30 in the evening.

The doctor came to the ward at 9pm to check my leg. He said it was a perfect operation and everything was normal, indicating that he would come again early.

Then the nurse came to put pillows under my legs and put white compression stockings on my legs.

At about 9:30, my legs hurt so much that I cried and cried! (At this time, my whole person is not good. What I think is that I will kill my thigh and I will go home after the calf is postponed). The nurse hung me an extra bag of stronger painkillers, and the pain disappeared after a while. (At this time, what I think in my heart is to do the thigh, I am really a fickle woman)!

Then I fell asleep.

The nurse came several times during the night to measure my blood pressure and ECG.
(It feels 1-2 hours once)

At about 5 in the morning, I will have my blood drawn for testing.



Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 27, 2021, 06:08:23 PM
November 23, 2021 (the first day after surgery)

Gave me an oval pill at 7:30 in the morning for me to take

I sent back my breakfast at 8:00, 3-quarters of the bread was eaten, two spoons of yogurt were eaten, and the rest did not move.

8:46 The Ministry of Health came and replaced me with a complete set of bedding, and I would be moved around by the man and the woman (they were gentle and careful).

At 10:00, the doctor came to check my legs, and then gave me 3 movements to lift my legs, bend my legs, and press my legs, and ask me to do it every 5 minutes for the next hour. The doctor said to come and let me walk later.

11:36 The urinary tube was pulled out, and I was menstruating. Fortunately, I had menstruation after the operation and did not come during the operation.

2:20 The doctor and the physical therapist came together and brought a walker. I used my arms to force my legs and walked (knees can’t bend). I walked from the bed to the door and then came back. After I walked, I felt sick and lay down. After a long time in bed, the doctor and physical therapist also said that I did very well.

3:30 The Greek girl on the bed opposite to the ward (not my operation) was discharged from the hospital. She also left her contact information for me. If you need any help, call her and send a message. It's really all the way. When I walked, I met a lot of kind Greeks.

5:20 The rehabilitator came to me again and walked with a walker in the room. After I walked, I felt nauseous, but did not vomit.

Sent back for dinner at 6:50. At that time, I had no appetite at all. The taste of the meal was too strange for me. I got nauseated after one bite. Then I forced myself to bite two bites of bread and ate a spoonful of yogurt. Eat some grapes you bring. After eating, I have been nauseous, and I want to vomit but can’t vomit.

At night, nurses also come to measure blood pressure and ECG from time to time.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Limbfan2020 on November 27, 2021, 06:09:42 PM
@ Lucky star

Which meds do you have to take for how long?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 27, 2021, 06:13:15 PM
November 24, 2021 (the day after the operation)

7:20 gave me an oval medicine

7:30 The doctor came to see me, checked my leg, and brought a wheelchair. The doctor said he was going for surgery and would come back at noon.

8:20 My breakfast came and I had no appetite at all. I forced myself to eat half a small bread and half a spoonful of yogurt. Then I ate two bites of bananas and two bites of apples that I brought with me. I actually didn't want to eat them at all, just forcing myself to force myself to eat the afternoon.

8:46 The nurse pulled out my indwelling needle, saying that my blood vessel was too thin and this needle didn't work anymore, so I had to stick another needle.
(I didn’t work well with my retention needle yesterday afternoon. I had to fix a movement with my hand for it to work)

But in fact, I don't want her to pull it out and stick another one again, because it's okay for me to keep the movement myself.

When I was in the hospital on Sunday afternoon, I got stuck with this remaining needle twice. I was very painful, but I don’t blame the nurse, because my blood vessels are really thin, and I often get stuck several times in China!

The nurse pulled out my detained needle and gave me another one and failed, and then the medicine didn't lose... Give me a long cry.
Wechat’s video of finding her husband broke down and cried, and I felt wronged. I know that my blood vessels are thin and the retained needle can barely work. Why do I need to pull out my retained needle? If you pull it out and you can't get it, then you won't be able to lose the painkiller. This is going to hurt me to death! )
Next, my condition was not good, and my legs were so painful that I couldn't lift them up!

Today, the device that was fixed on my body to release pain relief was also withdrawn. There is a switch, press it when it hurts.

After breakfast today, two people from the hospital’s food and beverage department came and asked me what I want for food... I guess it’s because I ate too little last night. Ask me any food allergies and other questions.

At 12:54, my lunch was sent back. I had no appetite. I left it there and said I would eat it later. I didn’t even open the lid of the plate. The one who delivered the meal within ten minutes took another one to replace the one that was delivered first. I took a look at the replacement plate, which looked like the meal that was nauseating after a bite last night. This new plate looks much refreshing, only carrot, potato, zucchini gnocchi (I don’t know what rice or noodles are). I ate a half of this gnocchi and soup. I didn’t touch the rest and ate myself. I brought half a banana and half an apple. I still had no appetite and forced myself to eat it.

The anaesthetist came and gave me a retention needle (pink) for a baby. This female anaesthetist was fine. While comforting me, she told me the story that she was afraid of doctors when she was a child, and then finished the retention needle, nurse I came back soon and hung up the medicine, and my condition started to get better.

2:50 The doctor came to see me, asked me the degree of pain, said that he would give me more painkillers, and then said that he would come and let me walk again.

The nurse came and hung me a bag of "powerful" painkillers in a soft bag. It didn't take long for me to recover, and I could raise my legs, bend my legs, press my legs... and do the exercises the doctor taught me. Action, happy. However, when this powerful painkiller was infused more than half of the time, I started to feel nauseous. It lasted for about an hour. I felt like vomiting but couldn't vomit. It should be because I was eating too little.

In the afternoon, someone from the company sent me the extension equipment and taught me how to use it. I could start extension after the doctor gave me an order.

Today, accompanied by a physical therapist, I used a walker to walk from the bed to the corridor, then walked back, more than double the distance I walked yesterday, and I don’t have the disgusting feeling of walking yesterday.

I ate dinner with my husband’s WeChat video. I ate half of chicken thighs, a spoonful of mashed potatoes, a piece of cucumber (slightly sweet) and the rest did not move. My husband ate with me in the video, and I ate half of what I brought. Bananas, three-quarters of apples, a 250ml bottle of protein drink, this meal is considered to be the most eaten.

8:05 When the nurse was routinely taking blood pressure and ECG measurements, he gave me a tummy tummy for a while. I asked her to prevent vein clotting. The needle was very thin but it was quite painful.
The nurse looked at my new pink baby’s retention needle. She said that I was the only one here, and I didn’t want to. My blood vessels were really too thin!
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 27, 2021, 06:19:37 PM
November 25, 2021 (the third day after surgery)

I don’t know what the ingredients are in the painkiller last night. It made me so excited until 4 in the morning. It was too irritating for me who had never smoked or drank before [covering face]

At 5:47 in the morning, I took a few tubes of blood for testing.

New bedding was changed at 7:40 in the morning.

Breakfast was delivered at 9:00. I ate half of the bread with the crust and ate the other half of the filling. The crust was too hard, and the rest did not move. Then I ate half of the banana that I brought and ate it. Half an apple, drink a bottle of 250ml protein drink,

Just after having breakfast, the rehabilitation specialist came to me again and asked me to walk on the ground with a walker. It was twice as large as yesterday, about 30 meters. When I came back, I didn’t feel dizzy and didn’t want to vomit. She said that I did a good job. .

After walking in the afternoon, I was in a good condition, but I just lay back on the bed after walking.

At 10 o’clock the nurse came and gave me an infusion. Uh, the medicine made me sick. The nurse told the doctor. The doctor changed a different liquid to relieve the nausea (it should be antiemetic) and brought another member of the team. The doctor got to know me and brought me a large packet of medicine, explaining that he would tell me how to take it in the morning, and there was a chair, saying that the rehabilitation specialist would come to me later and tell me how to use it. Because I was sick and didn’t eat lunch, I changed again. I had to feel weak and very sleepy. I was sleeping in the afternoon. The rehabilitation specialist came to see my condition and said that he would come and walk with me later. Later, I insisted on eating half of the fish. When I was eating, the doctor came. I also asked how the food in the hospital was. I shook my head like a rattle [breaking tears into laughter].

A new round of oral medicine was given at noon today. I was sick and didn't ask for any medicine. I was given a large packet of medicine today, which means I have come to teach me to take it early.

At 6:30, the rehabilitation specialist took me to walk around the corridor again. It had to be 30 meters long, neither pain nor tired nor dizzy. Then I asked. Normally, I will be discharged from the hospital at noon tomorrow. The rehabilitation practitioner will teach me to use the chair and crutches tomorrow morning. The rehabilitation practitioner said that I am walking very well and that I am super sweet.

6:55 Bring me my dinner, hairy legs and legs meal. I ate half of the leg meat and the apple plus a bottle of 250ml of protein drink that comes with it.

7:59 The nurse put another needle in my stomach (to prevent venous clotting). The needle was very small and the stamina was quite painful! He gave me another round pill by mouth.

It is still a routine ECG blood pressure measurement, and analgesic solution is applied, and I slept good night.

Looking forward to being discharged tomorrow [hug]
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 27, 2021, 06:22:22 PM
November 26, 2021 (discharge day)

8:00 ECG blood pressure measurement

8:25 Breakfast was delivered, because we are going to be discharged from the hospital, do we have two more snacks? I still don't have any appetite. I only took a bite of the two snacks. I drank some water and didn't move anything else... I was very sleepy and went to sleep.

8:51 Let me take a round pill, hang on today's first bottle of painkiller, and then go to sleep.

9:30 The doctor came to check my legs, took off the previous compression stockings, tore off the tape, and "disinfected" (I don't know what he painted, I know that one is normal saline, so it is collectively called disinfection) , And then affixed the "tape" again and put on a pair of white pressure socks. The doctor told me how to take each medicine and marked it for me on the pill box. Then told me that I would be discharged from the hospital at 11 o'clock. He also told me that his team will send me an email afterwards, about when to start the extension and do Pt... there will be detailed instructions.

Hahahahaha, I was discharged from the hospital. A rehabilitator and a nurse took me to the reception desk of the hospital (the doctor gave me: manual wheelchair, bath stool, walker, and the hospital gave me a super big bag with your case in it. Various inspection results...), my driver came to pick me up. I am very satisfied with my driver. The uncle has two sons and a daughter. He is very professional, punctual, and the car is very clean. The most important thing is to drive super stable.

I went out of the hospital to a cake shop, a coffee shop...
I am grateful to all the doctors, nurses, and rehabilitation practitioners for taking care of me.

Back to the hotel in the afternoon, boiled a pot of snail noodles, okra, and lo-mei without chili! After taking a bite, he was immediately resurrected with blood!

I went to bed on time at ten o'clock in the evening, good night 😴
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 27, 2021, 06:31:58 PM
The above content is the process I recorded in my mobile phone, which is similar to a running account.

Today I am in a very good condition. I take medicine, eat, and walk around with a walker. I don’t feel any pain. The only thing is that I feel tired easily.

Yesterday I received an email from the doctor’s team. It mentioned that I need to eat more than 2500 calories a day. This is a bit unaccustomed to me. For breakfast this morning, I usually prepare a lot. It’s a bit nauseous, so eat a few more meals. Change 3 meals a day to 4-5 meals to accomplish your goal. It should be better.

Then tomorrow will be extended, 4 times a day, 6 hours apart.
Start PT the day after tomorrow.

The happiest thing is that in the afternoon I received a large bouquet of flowers ordered by my husband. He is the best man in the world. :)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 27, 2021, 06:35:51 PM
@ Lucky star

Which meds do you have to take for how long?

The doctor gave me 5 types of medicines, a large pack of medicines, and the email sent by the doctor team mentioned that they will be notified when there are only 4 days of medicine left on their hands, and the new medicines will be delivered to the PT.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Arcon on November 27, 2021, 06:44:47 PM
Congrats Lucky star, keep us posted.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 27, 2021, 07:02:15 PM
Congrats Lucky star, keep us posted.

Thank you, I have a lot of photos, but an error is prompted after uploading nearby. I haven't learned to post photos yet.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: LU213 on November 27, 2021, 07:36:29 PM
Hey glad everything is going well and you have a wonderful husband.  Awesome you are using walker so fast with Precise. This forum thread on Uploading Images helped teach me how to use imgur to upload images.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2183.0
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Limbfan2020 on November 27, 2021, 08:01:01 PM
The doctor gave me 5 types of medicines, a large pack of medicines, and the email sent by the doctor team mentioned that they will be notified when there are only 4 days of medicine left on their hands, and the new medicines will be delivered to the PT.

Do you have to take Xarelto (a blood thinner)? If yes, for how long?



Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: thankscience on November 28, 2021, 01:52:13 AM
Glad to hear things are going well. Thanks for the in depth detail of your first few days.

What made you choose Precise on femurs as opposed to G-nail?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: ask.me on November 28, 2021, 05:03:04 AM
Thanks for the detailed journal Lucky Star! Glad to hear everything is going well.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 05:22:26 AM
I just finished the first extension an hour ago, 0.25mm once, four times a day, with an interval of 6 hours.

The operation of the machine is very simple, the legs don't feel much, the mood is very excited, and finally began to grow tall!!!
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 05:25:24 AM
Do you have to take Xarelto (a blood thinner)? If yes, for how long?

With this medicine, what I do is p. I will take it in the whole process.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 05:34:59 AM
Glad to hear things are going well. Thanks for the in depth detail of your first few days.

What made you choose Precise on femurs as opposed to G-nail?

Two years ago, my first choice was that both femur and tibia were S. as a result, the doctor saw my X-ray film and said that the bone cavity of my lower leg was thin and probably could not put the smallest size of S. therefore, the doctor gave me the suggestion of femur S + tibia P. during the operation, in order to prepare s and P suitable for the specification of my lower leg, if the tibia can be put down s according to the actual situation, give priority to my lower leg with S, If you can't put it in, use P.

Later, I was delayed for nearly two years because of the epidemic situation, visa, s recall and P retrial

Without s, the doctor agreed that I use p for both tibia and femur. Before, he suggested that I use p for tibia and s for femur.

I don't know much about the G needle you said. I know that the pain of G is greater than P, and I feel that I can't complete it well, so I choose P. And I'm light.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 05:40:25 AM
Hey glad everything is going well and you have a wonderful husband.  Awesome you are using walker so fast with Precise. This forum thread on Uploading Images helped teach me how to use imgur to upload images.

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2183.0

Thank you. I've read this article before, but I don't understand it. I need to study it again.

I'm not good at this kind of "high technology". I feel dizzy in a second!!

Before, my husband downloaded my mobile app. I used it directly
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 05:50:10 AM

[ :)the following is the text about drug taking that I copied from the email sent to me by the doctor team on the day of discharge. :) ]



Congratulations on your successful surgery. Below you can see postoperative instructions about your recovery with Precise nails in Athens. Please read it carefully. If you have questions, please contact us by email or directly Dr Giotikas on his whatsapp/mobile. 


Medications:
• Tab Xarelto 10 mg: 1 tablet once daily until completion of lengthening. Keep two tablets to take at the time of your repatriation flight.

• Tab Lyrica 75 mg: 1tablet once daily.

• Tab Paracetamol (Depon) 500mg: 2 tablets 3 times/day depending on the pain.

• Tab Tramal 100mg: 1 tablet 2 times per day depending on the pain. if paracetamol is not enough.

If you feel that your pain is not adequately controlled with this scheme (i.e you need more painkillers), please let us know.


• Sol Deltius(Vit D): 1 bottle per week with or after a meal.

If/when you run out of any medication, please let us know preferably four days in advance. New supplies will be delivered at the physio center during your physio session.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: two on November 28, 2021, 07:52:58 AM
Do you have to take lyrica everyday even if there is no nerve pain?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 08:55:59 AM
Do you have to take lyrica everyday even if there is no nerve pain?


At present, I am taking all drugs according to the medication standards told by the doctor.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 11:37:43 AM
 :) Photo of November 21, 2021 (the night before operation)

Finally eat the legendary greasy chicken leg
The doctor looked at the food I had brought
Go to bed and rush
Good night

(https://i.imgur.com/X4h6pS3.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 11:46:40 AM
 :) Photo of November 22, 2021 (operation day)

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Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 05:09:35 PM
Photo on November 23, 2021 (the first day after operation)

(https://i.imgur.com/tBZ2IL3.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/TdsJlmD.jpg)
 :( This rice tastes so strange!

Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 05:23:37 PM
Photo on November 24, 2021 (the second day after operation)

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Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 05:37:10 PM
Photo on November 25, 2021 (the third day after operation)

(https://i.imgur.com/Hu3yTIs.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 06:10:06 PM
Photo of November 26, 2021 (discharge date)

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(https://i.imgur.com/HaKvz1R.jpg)

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Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: two on November 28, 2021, 06:33:31 PM
Please ask your doctor if you have to take lyrica everyday even without any pain. Most patients I know take it only when pain.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 06:39:23 PM
The most handsome husband gave it to me 💐
Put it in a vase at the head of the bed and look at it in a good mood.


(https://i.imgur.com/Z2rvR8w.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/4qluNQ3.jpg)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 06:48:51 PM
The extension started today. At present, three 0.25mm extensions have been completed. Happy.
(https://i.imgur.com/LUnYVa5.jpg)


I washed my hair and took a bath this afternoon, and the whole person regained vitality. I finished it alone in the bathroom with the bath stool given by the hospital. My hotel housekeeper, I asked her to sit on the chair at the bathroom door with me. The bathroom door was not locked. I didn't have an accident and ask for help. She wouldn't push the door in. I can't accept others watching me take a bath!

Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 28, 2021, 07:06:16 PM
Please ask your doctor if you have to take lyrica everyday even without any pain. Most patients I know take it only when pain.


 :) I asked my doctor that the medication instruction was suitable for my current personal situation.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: limbcllnea on November 28, 2021, 10:10:46 PM
Hey, I'm scheduled for surgery in a few weeks and your pictures have been helpful. Thanks for writing a detailed diary with photos.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 29, 2021, 04:52:16 PM
Today, I went to the rehabilitation center for the first time to do Pt. At the beginning, it was painful to bend the knee to a certain angle. After the operation of the physiotherapist, the pain of bending the back knee to a certain angle was significantly reduced. The physiotherapist gave a stretching belt and taught four movements to finish his homework in the evening. My favorite is the anti gravity treadmill. Walking on it is as easy as walking without surgery. Another one wrapped his legs in ice, so comfortable that he almost fell asleep.

(https://i.imgur.com/0vyOkrE.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/95adwrS.jpg)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 29, 2021, 04:57:01 PM
Hey, I'm scheduled for surgery in a few weeks and your pictures have been helpful. Thanks for writing a detailed diary with photos.


 :) I wish you all the best~
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: karin123 on November 29, 2021, 05:30:00 PM
Happy for you !!!! are you there alone in hotel or you have company?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 29, 2021, 06:22:16 PM
Happy for you !!!! are you there alone in hotel or you have company?

I live in a hotel. The hotel has housekeeper service. I have an exclusive driver.
I don't hire a nurse.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: c on November 29, 2021, 07:51:52 PM
至少我可以保证在这个帖子,你能看得懂我说的任何话,加油同胞😄
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Bagga on November 30, 2021, 07:35:36 AM
Nice....how much you pay for such services?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 30, 2021, 12:09:30 PM
至少我可以保证在这个帖子,你能看得懂我说的任何话,加油同胞😄

谢谢你,我竟然在这里看到了中文,哈哈 :)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 30, 2021, 12:34:06 PM
Nice....how much you pay for such services?



I paid 76310 euros for the hospital. This is the price two years ago. I saw a little increase on the official website.

There are many choices for 50-100 euros in Greece. The doctor recommended it. My American friend told me 58 euros a day,

My husband entrusted a friend to arrange my hotel. The hotel itself does not have housekeeper service. Because of my friends, the hotel provides housekeeper service for me without additional charge.

The driver was introduced to me by a local friend. He only charges the price for normal watch printing, but I voluntarily pay him more because I think his normal working income will be affected in order to pick me up to the hospital and rehabilitation center on time (for example, I will give him 20 euros for 13 euros).
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 30, 2021, 01:01:16 PM
Today is the second time I went to the rehabilitation center to do Pt. When the rehabilitation division treated me, I felt a little pain, but after her treatment, the whole person felt relaxed. Today, I learned that I could see myself walking on the anti gravity treadmill screen.
(https://i.imgur.com/s7L2BPo.jpg)

I'm in good shape these days, but I'm easily tired and can sleep very well.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: V21 on November 30, 2021, 02:33:37 PM
Today is the second time I went to the rehabilitation center to do Pt. When the rehabilitation division treated me, I felt a little pain, but after her treatment, the whole person felt relaxed. Today, I learned that I could see myself walking on the anti gravity treadmill screen.
(https://i.imgur.com/s7L2BPo.jpg)

I'm in good shape these days, but I'm easily tired and can sleep very well.
How hard is getting into the treadmill with Precice? At least in my case I had to walk over one step, and I thought I would be terrified to do it with Precice, putting too much weight on the legs. Do the PT guys carry you?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on November 30, 2021, 02:46:26 PM
How hard is getting into the treadmill with Precice? At least in my case I had to walk over one step, and I thought I would be terrified to do it with Precice, putting too much weight on the legs. Do the PT guys carry you?

When I go up, they will help me. At the beginning, they will help me. Later, I can "jump" by myself. When I finish walking on the anti gravity treadmill, I don't need help. I can "jump" off the machine, and then "jump" away with a walker.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 02, 2021, 05:55:02 PM
Today is the third time to go to the rehabilitation center after operation. I can "jump" onto the anti gravity treadmill without help.

Physiotherapists say I'm "strong". For the first time in my life, someone praises me like this. In fact, I'm the kind that has always been called a weak chicken! My weight is about 40kg all year round. This may be the reason why my arms can easily support myself, so I look very "strong".

I still remember the first time I got on the anti gravity treadmill, when the rehabilitation division was giving me "gas", because it was the first time I didn't know to stick my feet to the ground, hahaha, suddenly took off 30 cm away from the ground. If there were not a "small skirt" tied to me, I should hit the ceiling.


(https://i.imgur.com/oOiWpi3.jpg)
The leg was a little swollen. The doctor asked me to apply ice. I found the baby cooling paste and used it first. Go to the rehabilitation center tomorrow morning and get an ice bag home.

After the operation, I cooked by myself, focusing on simple and fast dishes. I bought this bottled garlic foam and fried all kinds of vegetables. It's perfect.
(https://i.imgur.com/2CiNjXc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/evVzXxB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nYqvzbI.jpg)

In order to meet the daily calories required by the doctor, I drink a lot of fruit juice, protein drinks and eat a variety of fruits and nuts.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on December 03, 2021, 12:36:16 PM
Hi lucky star. thanks for sharing your diary with all the photos
May I know what is your starting height and the goal height? How long will you stay in Greece?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 03, 2021, 12:42:55 PM
Go to the rehabilitation center for the fourth time after operation
The local swelling of my leg disappeared. The doctor told me to "rest" for the next three days.
Today, a male rehabilitation therapist did PT for me. I didn't hurt at all in the whole process. He said I was in very good condition.
The male therapist's wife gave birth to a little girl. This is the chocolate he gave me..
(https://i.imgur.com/vLB9xMB.jpg)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 03, 2021, 12:49:30 PM
Hi lucky star. thanks for sharing your diary with all the photos
May I know what is your starting height and the goal height? How long will you stay in Greece?



I'm lower than the average height of women. Of course, I want to have more goals, but I'll listen to the doctor.
I will stay in Greece until the end of the extension and the Doctor confirms that there is no problem before I return home.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on December 03, 2021, 12:55:03 PM
thanks for the reply.
wish you a comfortable lengthening process and a great recovery.
look forward to more of your updates!
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 03, 2021, 01:06:54 PM
thanks for the reply.
wish you a comfortable lengthening process and a great recovery.
look forward to more of your updates!


Thank you for your blessing, I will continue to share.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 05, 2021, 08:42:55 PM
I went to the hospital for a physical examination today.

Blood, leg X-ray, leg B-ultrasound (both sides, today is the first time I do face down lying on the bed after the operation).

The X-ray platform and the bed of leg B-ultrasound were two male nurses. One grabbed my armpit and the other carried me directly behind my knee. Fortunately, I was relatively light.

I arrived at the hospital at 1 p.m. and didn't wait until 5:30. The doctor told me that everything was fine and there was no problem.

The waiting time was very long. The male nurse saw that I had been sleeping in the wheelchair in the corridor. Maybe I was afraid of the cold. She told me to take me to a warm room, which should be the infusion room (or observation room). I felt warm in my heart.

I got the legendary DVD, but I can't watch it. My apple laptop doesn't have this function.
(https://i.imgur.com/cy1776a.jpg)

I woke up with pain several times in the night of the previous two days, just like the feeling of sore and cramped legs during adolescent development, and my legs bounced several times unconsciously. The doctor asked me to change the times of taking medicine and observe it for two days.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: limbcllnea on December 05, 2021, 09:08:41 PM
What is the DVD?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 06, 2021, 10:27:37 AM
What is the DVD?

 :) It should be an X-ray film.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on December 06, 2021, 01:28:29 PM
do you only get a dvd and not the film copy of the xray result?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 07, 2021, 11:44:09 AM
do you only get a dvd and not the film copy of the xray result?

For the preoperative examination, I got some X-ray films and some paper reports. For the examination two weeks after the operation, I got some paper reports and a DVD disc, without X-ray films.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 07, 2021, 12:00:54 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/AzrDPBo.jpg)
It's a medicine box from my Greek friend. What a surprise. Thank you.

4 meals a day for 7 days, enough but good "old" medicine box.

There are many advanced and high-value medicine boxes to choose from in our country. It is recommended to bring them.

I have received an email from the doctor team. My second operation (femoral surgery) is next week. I'm excited and nervous. Come on.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on December 07, 2021, 02:05:21 PM
wow, good luck! are you using precice for your femurs too? i can imagine it must be difficult to do both tibia and femur at the same time. did you come alone or do you have someone to help you with daily activities?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 07, 2021, 02:27:24 PM
wow, good luck! are you using precice for your femurs too? i can imagine it must be difficult to do both tibia and femur at the same time. did you come alone or do you have someone to help you with daily activities?

 :) Thank you.
I use precice. 
I'm alone.
I think it's very difficult
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 09, 2021, 03:23:24 PM
 :) People in Greece like coffee very much,
The driver said it was delicious, so I bought it and brought it to my friends.
(https://i.imgur.com/IV3oOGi.jpg)

The anti gravity treadmill looked at the screen and found that the swelling of the foot was much less than before.
(https://i.imgur.com/AvKiAEn.jpg)


Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Mrvictor on December 09, 2021, 05:46:47 PM
Hi what was the cost of the procedure. Lodging, and food etc
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on December 09, 2021, 07:56:05 PM
Hi lucky star, i want to ask since you are doing both tibia and femur.

What was your fitness level before the operation? Were you a very active person? How about your flexibility and muscles?

Thanks.

Hi what was the cost of the procedure. Lodging, and food etc
For the procedure. You can find the cost on Dr G website https://www.athensbjr.com/cost-pricing-of-cosmetic-limb-lengthening/
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 10, 2021, 05:39:47 PM
Hi lucky star, i want to ask since you are doing both tibia and femur.

What was your fitness level before the operation? Were you a very active person? How about your flexibility and muscles?

Thanks.
For the procedure. You can find the cost on Dr G website https://www.athensbjr.com/cost-pricing-of-cosmetic-limb-lengthening/


First of all, thank you for helping me reply.

My physical condition is normal and healthy, but because I have been waiting for surgery for nearly two years (visa, p-needle, epidemic...), I am very anxious (insomnia, need melatonin to help me sleep, and open my eyes until morning when it is serious). The anxious emotional problems caused endocrine disorders, which led me to undergo a minimally invasive surgery in Beijing in early September, The day I was discharged from the hospital was the first day of my Greek visa, so I handled the discharge in Beijing in the morning and boarded the plane to Athens in the afternoon. My husband said I was a female werewolf!

I am a person who doesn't like sports. I usually go out and my husband drives. When my husband is busy working, I am a taxi. I usually don't have the habit of fitness.

After deciding on this operation, I started stretching a year ago (graphic data given by the hospital). My operation was delayed continuously for various reasons, so my stretching did not last, but intermittently.

I remember that after I stretched seriously for a month, I could finish the word horse perfectly.

Before stretching, I can probably put down my fist from the ground.

Before the operation, the doctor checked my leg. I told the doctor that I could use a word horse. The doctor said it would be helpful. At that time, I wanted to show the word horse to the doctor. The doctor didn't give me a chance, but asked me to cooperate with him to complete several movements.

After the operation, I went to the rehabilitation center to do Pt. The rehabilitation division always said that I was perfect. I think my muscles and flexibility were very good.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Thehighest on December 10, 2021, 10:06:06 PM
How much cm do You plan on tibia and femur?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 11, 2021, 02:40:17 PM
How much cm do You plan on tibia and femur?


Let's see the actual situation. I'll listen to the doctor. I hope it can be extended on the premise of safety.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on December 11, 2021, 02:49:58 PM
You are wise for prioritizing safety. Let us know the final length you gain after you are done!
By the way, did they use a catheter on you when you did the first surgery?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 11, 2021, 03:10:56 PM
You are wise for prioritizing safety. Let us know the final length you gain after you are done!
By the way, did they use a catheter on you when you did the first surgery?

I'm not sure you're asking about "diapers"? If it is written in the hospitalization daily account above, the operation used a "urinary catheter" and a "urine bag", and the "urinary catheter" was removed on the morning of the first day after the operation.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 11, 2021, 03:25:13 PM
After I came back from the rehabilitation center yesterday, I watched an American drama in bed and unconsciously crossed my legs 🧘‍♀️, Sitting in a wheelchair for dinner, I unconsciously crossed my legs. It's becoming more and more flexible.

I took the extra medicine given by the doctor before going to bed last night. I slept well and didn't wake up again. It was good that the extension in the middle of the night was delayed for a full 3 hours!

On the day of discharge, Dr. g cleaned and changed the dressing and replaced the white pressure socks. I had to wear them for two weeks on the day of discharge. Hahahahahaha, this morning, I finally took off the pressure socks, tore the adhesive tape and removed the tension reducer (I smelled the pressure socks with bad taste, but it didn't smell. I haven't washed my feet for three weeks since the operation. I'm dry feet, and my heels are cracked after looking at them).
(https://i.imgur.com/BgIiXs5.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Eq8seSS.jpg)

:) after dismantling, I finally took a complete bath
Then began postoperative "scar management"
(https://i.imgur.com/NsYM75K.jpg)

I feel so relaxed when I take off the pressure socks, but I will go to the hospital for physical examination and hospitalization next Tuesday. I will have a thigh operation on Wednesday. After the operation, I will put on the pressure socks again. Cherish the short days without pressure socks!

Today, the doctor informed me to extend the time from 0.25mm four times a day to 0.25mm three times a day until the day when I went to the hospital for examination and hospitalization on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on December 11, 2021, 06:23:15 PM
Good luck on your next operation, I am cheering for your speedy recovery.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 12, 2021, 02:33:45 PM
Good luck on your next operation, I am cheering for your speedy recovery.
Thank you and good luck.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: c on December 12, 2021, 08:05:38 PM
你是小巨人吧,我当时也在群里,后来解散了,目前看只要继续正常延长,一切都很顺利
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 15, 2021, 06:19:35 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/MPRjya6.jpg)

Yesterday morning, I went to the rehabilitation center for Pt

The driver came to pick me up. First, he went to the cake shop to buy dessert for the angels
The ice cream in this cake shop is delicious 😋


In the afternoon, I went to the hospital for a physical examination (blood, nucleic acid, ECG...) and took me to the ward with a retention needle.


At 5 pm, a male nurse came and asked me a lot of questions, especially about taking drugs.


5:15  I took my blood pressure and ECG.


6: 20 The doctor came to the ward and just came to say hello. He went to have an operation. He was really busy.

Before long, a woman came in (looks like an anesthesiologist in clothes). She focused on the question about my medication, and then she left.

At about 8:30, Dr. g came and told me that my operation could not be carried out tomorrow morning because I didn't stop taking one of the drugs. Maybe it needs to be changed to two weeks later.

Then the doctor went to find a way. I waited in the ward. At this time, I informed my driver that I needed to go back to the hotel tonight. I would inform him when I knew I could leave the hospital.

9:00  The nurse came to take blood pressure and ECG again.

At about 9:50, the doctor came back and said that I could stay in the hospital tonight. Tomorrow morning, he would confirm when I could arrange my operation on Thursday, Friday and Saturday. I chose to remove the needle and go back to the hotel. At 11:20 at night, I returned to the hotel. Maybe I started nausea in the car because of blood drawing (5 tubes). When I returned to the hotel, I vomited, brushed my teeth, washed my face, took a shower and went to bed.


 :'( so yesterday I exchanged the price of two needles for a dinner in the hospital and an extension in the ward... Crying!

This morning, Dr. g informed me that the operation was scheduled for December 16, so I'll go to the hospital again tomorrow morning. I'll update it when I get out of the hospital.

(https://i.imgur.com/MRcLmi6.jpg)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: world on December 15, 2021, 07:33:27 PM
This is a wonderful diary.

Why did you choose precice nails instead of guichet nails? Did not the doctor convince that it's weight bearing? Did you have to convince the doctor to let you use precice nails?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: c on December 16, 2021, 04:40:21 AM
我不否认G医生技术很好,但的却做g针导致了人没了,虽然不一定是针的问题,你选择p针还是更安全的选择
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 20, 2021, 07:07:18 PM
【Surgery day】
The second non-operation was performed in the afternoon of December 16, 2021. I drank a glass of protein at 6 am, took morning medicine, drank a glass of water at 7 am, and then I fasted for water and arrived at the hospital for inspection at 11:30. Body, this time I was lucky enough to get the VIP single room and was pushed into the operating room about 3pm.

(https://i.imgur.com/bMCGQPt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/lHKBfse.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YtWIOz9.jpg)

Then I was anesthetized. When I was conscious, I was in the observation room. I saw it was 8:15 in the evening, and when I returned to the ward, it was 8:50.

9:15 The nurse comes to measure blood pressure and test ECG.

9:25 Dr. G just came here and checked my thighs and calves. He touched various parts of my legs and asked me if I felt any sense. I could feel the doctor's touch in every part of my leg. Everything is normal. There was no pain. The doctor explained that he would come to see me again in the morning and told me that I don’t need to extend my calf today, and let me decide to restore the calf extension 3 times a day tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.

At 10:00, I brought in two bottles of infusion and a syringe of medicine. The nurse asked me if I wanted to change the surgical gown. I said maybe I would change it later.

10:25 Let the nurse help me get a glass of water with a straw, and the nurse asked me to drink a little bit.

10:53 I drank a small sip of water with a straw, which was about 5ml.

11:01 The nurse brought in a new infusion and observed my urine bag for a while.
          The nurse asked me if I was better? I said I have always been fine. Ask me if it hurts? I said there was no pain.
          It doesn't hurt, but the legs are completely immobile.

When the male nurse pushed me back to the ward after the operation, I felt a little nauseous. I asked him for a small yellow waist-shaped basin and kept it near my mouth. When I arrived in the ward, I tried to vomit and vomited. A little bit, similar to saliva, less than a quarter of the amount of vomiting after the first operation, more comfortable than last time, not so nauseous, and then wake up quickly in the ward.

11:20 The nurse came to add a new infusion, helped me turn off the overhead light, and turned on other auxiliary lights. I felt much more comfortable.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 20, 2021, 09:01:07 PM
After reading my updated running account on the day of surgery, do you think that I will be hospitalized like the first surgery. There will be running account records for every day of the whole process. The fact is that I didn’t do this, because on the first day after the operation, my mood was bad. The outer thigh hurts when you move, just like your body is stiff when you keep the Acura movement for a few hours. "That kind of feeling, I don't know if you can understand it?

[First day after surgery]
At 5:00 am on December 17th, the nurse came to draw blood, measure blood pressure, temperature, and ECG.
(Blood was drawn at 5 am every day I was hospitalized)

10;50 The doctor came to see me and told me that he would remove the urine bag, and then walk for a while (the rehabilitator came before, and I proposed to remove the urine bag before trying to walk) and then I told the doctor that I hope he will be in my I added some glucose to the infusion, because the hospital’s food was too much to eat, the doctor agreed.

After a while, the nurse came to remove the urine bag, and there was a lot of pain.

This is breakfast. I ate less than half of the horn-shaped bread and didn't touch the rest. I drank a cup of protein drink that came with me.
(https://i.imgur.com/LgLqmIn.jpg)


This is lunch. There are fish and shrimp in the staple food. When I opened the lid, I felt nauseous when I smelled it. I ate the pear during this meal and didn't move anything else. I ate half a bottle of sweet porridge that I brought and opened.
(https://i.imgur.com/A4HlI8Y.jpg)


4:05 pm The rehabilitation teacher came. I sat up and sat on the side of the bed with his help. With such a simple operation, I cried, screamed, failed to stand up, and then suffered another pain. Under the wailing call, the rehabilitation practitioner helped me to lie down again.


It's really painful, it hurts when I move... Since I didn't stand up, my mood is not very good!

Throughout the afternoon and evening, I was motionless like a corpse lying down. My heart was very tormented, and I regretted the double stage!

At 11:00 at night, I had a special breakdown, and sent a video chat invitation to my husband (5:00 am China time)
My emotions were completely broken down, crying, my husband immediately decided to put down everything and come to accompany me, saying that I am the most important, let me calm down, he will be fine when he comes, and insist on persisting.
At 11:30, I sent a WhatsApp message to Dr. G to explain the situation (I received the invitation letter from my husband from the team the next day)
The current passport renewal has been submitted for entry and exit. You will be able to get the updated passport in about two days. If you apply for a visa, you will come to Greece. At present, I see that the earliest direct flight is on January 8, so as long as After the visa comes, he will make a connecting flight.



[The day after the operation] December 18, 2021
At about one in the morning, the nurse discovered that I was crying in the ward with my husband in the video. The nurse called the doctor on duty. I told the doctor that I couldn’t fall asleep anyhow, and I had serious emotional problems. I hope to give me a stable shot. To sleep, the doctor gave me a sleeping pill and a little liquid medicine (drinking sleeping medicine)

I don’t know how long it took to finally fall asleep, and woke up before 3 in the morning.

Then I started to video with my husband again. My husband was already preparing materials for various classes. He was really the best man.

At 5 o'clock in the morning, the nurse came again to draw blood and perform various tests.

After that, I didn’t record the current account in my mobile phone. On the 18th, I basically spent the whole day communicating with my husband about visa-related videos and texts.
Still in pain, still unable to stand up, and collapsed in pain when he moved his leg! This day is Saturday, and I have been making videos with my husband one after another.
I was hospitalized for this operation and could sleep at most 2 hours every night, which was very painful.


[The third day after the operation] Discharge day December 19, 2021
Today, with the help of a physical therapist, I can stand. On the one hand, I am weak because of too little food, and on the other hand, the position of the needle in my left hand makes me unable to support it.

When I was discharged from the hospital at noon, my driver put his hand under my armpit as usual, and he held me up and put me in the position of the co-pilot. He just lifted up a little bit, and I screamed in pain. He quickly stopped putting me. Back to the wheelchair, the staff from the two hospitals finally put me in the co-pilot. When I returned to the hotel, my hotel butler and the driver both took me on the electric wheels, following the methods of the hospital staff. .

When I returned to the hotel, I was tossed and awake all night...

On December 20, 2021, I can easily move from the bed to the electric wheelchair today. The hotel butler helped me make an appointment to wash my hair, accompanied me to the barber shop to wash my hair, and ate in the hotel for two days. With meals, my body has strengthened and my condition is much better.
(https://i.imgur.com/QFDc5AS.jpg)

I received an email from the hospital. On the 21st, I will resume going to the rehabilitation center tomorrow. On the 22nd, my thighs will be extended, 4 times a day, once 0.25 mm.

After this operation, I coughed from time to time (I didn't have a cold). It was a terrible one, my face was flushed, tears burst out, and I always felt something in my throat. I only started to feel better today.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: c on December 21, 2021, 12:51:09 AM
保持坚强,我能感觉到痛苦可能远大于生孩子,不过还是你现在已经没什么事情了,期待你完成延长那天,加油,小巨人
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: SuchLL on December 21, 2021, 03:08:06 AM
保持坚强,我能感觉到痛苦可能远大于生孩子,不过还是你现在已经没什么事情了,期待你完成延长那天,加油,小巨人

哈哈你这个对比很有意思,我虽然不知道生小孩的痛苦,但作为做过两次增高手术的人,我猜测还是生小孩会更痛一些。手术后即使不舒服我也能够坚持吃饭,也可以用oxy这样的强效止痛药,但肚子疼的时候感觉什么都没办法坚持做下去,肚子里有宝宝的时候也没办法强效用药
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 21, 2021, 11:53:02 AM
This is a wonderful diary.

Why did you choose precice nails instead of guichet nails? Did not the doctor convince that it's weight bearing? Did you have to convince the doctor to let you use precice nails?
I mentioned the reason above. :)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 21, 2021, 12:08:56 PM
保持坚强,我能感觉到痛苦可能远大于生孩子,不过还是你现在已经没什么事情了,期待你完成延长那天,加油,小巨人

 :)谢谢
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 21, 2021, 12:27:39 PM
Today is the first time I went to the rehabilitation center after the second operation. After PT, the whole leg feels much easier.

Before I went, I had been worried about walking on an anti-gravity treadmill, because I am not so strong when I jump on a walker. What makes me happy is that the physiotherapist told me that I will only start using the anti-gravity treadmill next week, which is great.

Before the second surgery (femur), I had been doing PT very well without pain, so when my friends next to me made various painful noises during PT, I was still wondering why it hurts so much?

Today, when I was PT, I made groans from time to time. Although I didn't feel painful and exaggerated, I also understood why my friends called PT so painful!

I don't need help, I can move from the wheelchair to the physiotherapy bed.

The physiotherapist told me that I was in the best condition after the dual segment she had seen.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on December 22, 2021, 04:04:00 PM
Then I was anesthetized. When I was conscious, I was in the observation room. I saw it was 8:15 in the evening, and when I returned to the ward, it was 8:50.

9:15 The nurse comes to measure blood pressure and test ECG.

9:25 Dr. G just came here and checked my thighs and calves. He touched various parts of my legs and asked me if I felt any sense. I could feel the doctor's touch in every part of my leg. Everything is normal. There was no pain. The doctor explained that he would come to see me again in the morning and told me that I don’t need to extend my calf today, and let me decide to restore the calf extension 3 times a day tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.


Is it 8:50 evening too? Did you sleep for over 24 hr?
by the way congrats you finished your 2nd operation without issue :)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: world on December 23, 2021, 09:18:32 AM
I mentioned the reason above. :)

I searched but couldnt find it. can you copy paste the response?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 23, 2021, 06:52:05 PM
When I go to bed at night, I straighten my legs and have pillows under my legs, but I often wake up with my legs curled up. Today, I want to ask the physical therapist if I can wear the shoes for sleeping. Before I asked, the physical therapist brought a blue bag and said it was for me, just the gray + white shoes in the photo. I showed the photos of the shoes I bought in my phone to the physical therapist, and they said that I bought this pair of shoes with more functions.
Put it on tonight to see if you can sleep better!
(https://i.imgur.com/3TN9Upp.jpg)


Christmas gifts for friends🎁
(https://i.imgur.com/63LYOfL.jpg)


Christmas I received🎁
(https://i.imgur.com/nbNgQhN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/aHKJTPm.jpg)

I wish you all a Merry Christmas in advance🎄.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 23, 2021, 06:57:12 PM
Is it 8:50 evening too? Did you sleep for over 24 hr?
by the way congrats you finished your 2nd operation without issue :)

The Google translation is wrong, I just stayed in the observation room for more than half an hour before being pushed back to the ward, and did not sleep for 24 hours!

And it was written on my second operation that I didn't sleep more than 2 hours a night, so it caused a very emotional breakdown!
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 23, 2021, 06:58:57 PM
I searched but couldnt find it. can you copy paste the response?


Two years ago, my first choice was that both femur and tibia were S. as a result, the doctor saw my X-ray film and said that the bone cavity of my lower leg was thin and probably could not put the smallest size of S. therefore, the doctor gave me the suggestion of femur S + tibia P. during the operation, in order to prepare s and P suitable for the specification of my lower leg, if the tibia can be put down s according to the actual situation, give priority to my lower leg with S, If you can't put it in, use P.

Later, I was delayed for nearly two years because of the epidemic situation, visa, s recall and P retrial

Without s, the doctor agreed that I use p for both tibia and femur. Before, he suggested that I use p for tibia and s for femur.

I don't know much about the G needle you said. I know that the pain of G is greater than P, and I feel that I can't complete it well, so I choose P. And I'm light.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Tom多 on December 26, 2021, 12:31:42 AM
Hi, I come from Hangzhou, Zhejiang province. Nice to meet you. I have followed you on tieba before, and I have made an appointment for P needle operation in June 2022. I would like to ask you how to handle our entry visa then? What else do we need to prepare after Greece sends us the invitation letter?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: sprit33 on December 26, 2021, 05:46:39 PM
HI, I am also a Chinese, and I have a few questions that I want to consult
(1) For P Nail, do I have to use a wheelchair during the extended period, or can I just use crutches or walkers?
(2) Being alone, how do you solve your meal, toilet, and bath problems?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 28, 2021, 07:58:37 AM
Hi, I come from Hangzhou, Zhejiang province. Nice to meet you. I have followed you on tieba before, and I have made an appointment for P needle operation in June 2022. I would like to ask you how to handle our entry visa then? What else do we need to prepare after Greece sends us the invitation letter?

你拿到医院的邀请函,要不找中介代办签证,要不自己办理。
自己办理可以先给你们当地的签证中心打电话,她会让你你上网站看你需要的材料,你准备好相关材料,预约交资料时间,去交资料、打指纹、缴费……等待.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 28, 2021, 08:03:19 AM
HI, I am also a Chinese, and I have a few questions that I want to consult
(1) For P Nail, do I have to use a wheelchair during the extended period, or can I just use crutches or walkers?
(2) Being alone, how do you solve your meal, toilet, and bath problems?

中国人,我就中文回复了,毕竟谷歌翻译有时候不能传达精确。
1 是的长期轮椅,短距离可以用助行器(比如几米去厕所)
2 这个就看个人的自理能力了;我没问题(我双段P),我住酒店,有酒店管家,有司机。
   但我了解到了的世界范围内很多做P的人不管是单段还是双断都需要有人照顾。
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 28, 2021, 08:37:27 AM
Before I did yesterday, I could only fall asleep for about 2 hours for 4 consecutive nights, and people would collapse...
People are sleepy, and the swelling of the thighs causes no one to catch it!

I went to ask Dr. G, and finally solved this problem: adjusting the medicine + stretching exercise (taught by the rehabilitation teacher).
I finally got a good night's sleep last night, because my thighs have to be extended four times a day, so I need to get up at 3 o'clock in the middle of the night to extend my thighs. I woke up last night and fell asleep happily and happily.

After thigh surgery, I always wash my hair in the hairdressing salon, and after I don’t have to wear elastic stockings for two weeks after I am discharged from the hospital, I will consider whether to resume washing my hair. Going to the salon is so easy and comfortable, hahahaha, the price is not expensive, less than 20 euros.
(https://i.imgur.com/u6gfgWY.jpg)


In addition, this ice cream is delicious. I love dark chocolate the most, but I still can’t accept the desserts here. They are too sweet.
(https://i.imgur.com/O9cA0ib.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/llTB8Q5.jpg)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Tom多 on December 28, 2021, 11:40:12 AM
你拿到医院的邀请函,要不找中介代办签证,要不自己办理。
自己办理可以先给你们当地的签证中心打电话,她会让你你上网站看你需要的材料,你准备好相关材料,预约交资料时间,去交资料、打指纹、缴费……等待.
好!十分感谢!说不定明年我们可以相遇~我的微信是Apr_tom,如果你有兴趣的话我们可以加一下联系方式,我可以提供面诊过的记录给你看,这样你也会放心一点哈哈。
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: sprit33 on December 28, 2021, 09:42:24 PM
谢谢回复,小姐姐~在雅典的体验怎么样哈哈哈 还有个问题想问你 ,自申请签证开始多久可以下来呀(我应该也是北京送签),和医生决定手术之后多久可以排上呀
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on December 30, 2021, 03:36:00 PM
hi, how are you doing lucky star? what is the feeling of having 4 implants inside? is it heavy or not much difference in feeling?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 30, 2021, 09:35:56 PM
Today was the first time I walked on an anti-gravity treadmill after thigh surgery. I needed the help of a physical therapist to jump on the treadmill. When I only had my calf, I could jump on it myself.
(https://i.imgur.com/KXzMNY3.jpg)

Today I was hurt by the physical therapist. When it hurts, I laughed wildly! What's wrong with me? I do not know either!

Happy to receive New Year gifts from Greek friends.
(https://i.imgur.com/a1ZEIEx.jpg)

I wish all my friends a happy new year in advance.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Thehighest on December 30, 2021, 09:39:21 PM
Which was You initial height? How much Will You length in the tibia?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 30, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
谢谢回复,小姐姐~在雅典的体验怎么样哈哈哈 还有个问题想问你 ,自申请签证开始多久可以下来呀(我应该也是北京送签),和医生决定手术之后多久可以排上呀
决定手术就先约手术(多久排上不好说,看当时情况吧),定好日期,准备材料去办理签证。
签证你办理的时候问下你去的签证中心,时刻都在变化,我也说不准,我当时提前一个月提交的材料,交材料的时候问了收材料的工作人员,她说正常在我出发前的3天左右会出签,果不其然离我出发只剩3天了,才打电话通知我签证出来了。

还有额外说一下,我知道的好几个腿友在北京使馆被签证官劝退了,但凡是做手术的,北京使馆都会让你来面签。如果女生158左右往上,男生168左右往上,大概率会被劝退,疫情的关系,你不是特别矮就会劝退。

1月中有个腿友会来,已经拿到签证,她属于广州使馆,广州不需要面签。

另一个腿友在土耳其呆3周了,他呆两个月可以办理土耳其居住证,然后用这个办理希腊签证,他因为身高之前被北京使馆签证官劝退的。
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 30, 2021, 09:50:46 PM
hi, how are you doing lucky star? what is the feeling of having 4 implants inside? is it heavy or not much difference in feeling?

Hello, I don't think there is any difference, it may be because the material is titanium.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 30, 2021, 09:52:33 PM
Which was You initial height? How much Will You length in the tibia?

I am unwilling to answer this question. I am less than two meters tall.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: SuchLL on December 30, 2021, 10:12:04 PM
Today was the first time I walked on an anti-gravity treadmill after thigh surgery. I needed the help of a physical therapist to jump on the treadmill. When I only had my calf, I could jump on it myself.
(https://i.imgur.com/KXzMNY3.jpg)

Today I was hurt by the physical therapist. When it hurts, I laughed wildly! What's wrong with me? I do not know either!

Happy to receive New Year gifts from Greek friends.
(https://i.imgur.com/a1ZEIEx.jpg)

I wish all my friends a happy new year in advance.

I laugh when I’m in pain too! I’m not sure why I laugh either… Maybe it just sounds a bit better than screaming
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on December 31, 2021, 09:17:14 AM
Hello, I don't think there is any difference, it may be because the material is titanium.

oh, that is good to know.
i will keep reading this diary because not many people are doing tibia & femur at the same time. you are amazing for going through it.
happy new year and well wishes to you.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 31, 2021, 01:27:27 PM
oh, that is good to know.
i will keep reading this diary because not many people are doing tibia & femur at the same time. you are amazing for going through it.
happy new year and well wishes to you.

 :) ;) Happy New Year to you too.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 31, 2021, 01:30:36 PM
I laugh when I’m in pain too! I’m not sure why I laugh either… Maybe it just sounds a bit better than screaming

Hahahaha, it turns out that someone is like me, so I'm relieved.
Happy New Year :) friends who love to laugh.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on December 31, 2021, 02:57:46 PM
Today I went to the police station to apply for a visa extension.
The same as the last time the visa extension was granted is still 45 days.
I guess I have to do it once when I look back.
32 Euros in cash were paid to the public sector.
(https://i.imgur.com/l5I7aUl.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jPxpatp.jpg)


From handsome husband💐
What's wrong with being a bit ugly by me!
(https://i.imgur.com/HU9Q8fA.jpg)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: JohnsonJohnson on December 31, 2021, 06:13:18 PM
hello,小姐姐,同胞哈哈,给你发私信了。
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on January 02, 2022, 09:21:01 AM
when you are finished lengthening, can you tell us the total amount of height increase? thanks :)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on January 03, 2022, 04:38:59 PM
The morning full of coffee aroma :P
(https://i.imgur.com/Sr8GKWe.jpg)

I came to the rehabilitation center to do Pt for the first time in three days. I dropped my mother. It was painful to be repaired by a physical therapist today! I'm screaming in pain!
I love and fear the physical therapist Aliki, I love more...
At present, it is very painful for me to turn over.
(https://i.imgur.com/SLlQUS0.jpg)

Yesterday, two weeks have passed since the day I was discharged from the thigh surgery. Hahaha I took off the compression stockings on my legs for the first time and lost it, feeling relaxed. I washed my hair and took a shower myself, and I came back to life.

After the physiotherapy, my driver took me to a shop with great chocolates.
(https://i.imgur.com/PUmoI9v.jpg)

 I bought new year gifts for my friends, and the clerk also gave me a small bag of gifts to wish me a happy and happy new year.
(https://i.imgur.com/smozWg3.jpg)

 ;) Once again, I wish all my friends a happy new year.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on January 03, 2022, 04:57:47 PM
这条写给亲爱中国的同胞们看:

谢谢你们喜欢我分享的日记,2019年我看了BoBo百度贴吧的日记了解到内置手术,感谢她让我知道我可以改变。
我在这里分享我手术日记,我尽可能的很详细的分享各种细节。
我没分享到的,只要不涉及隐私,你们可以留言,我会回复(提问请不要私信,我不喜欢重复回答每个人)。

各位不要再私信我求加微信了,我微信不加人、不提供咨询。
我不希望我的生活被打扰,时间就是金钱,我没有那么多时间在微信上一一去回复。
你可能觉得你就问我几个问题,你面对的是我一个人,而我面对的是一堆人。

 :) 最后祝福大家一切顺利。



Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: sprit33 on January 04, 2022, 12:02:16 PM
这条写给亲爱中国的同胞们看:

谢谢你们喜欢我分享的日记,2019年我看了BoBo百度贴吧的日记了解到内置手术,感谢她让我知道我可以改变。
我在这里分享我手术日记,我尽可能的很详细的分享各种细节。
我没分享到的,只要不涉及隐私,你们可以留言,我会回复(提问请不要私信,我不喜欢重复回答每个人)。

各位不要再私信我求加微信了,我微信不加人、不提供咨询。
我不希望我的生活被打扰,时间就是金钱,我没有那么多时间在微信上一一去回复。
你可能觉得你就问我几个问题,你面对的是我一个人,而我面对的是一堆人。
 :) 最后祝福大家一切顺利。

非常理解~很难想象双段Precice自己在国外独立生活,很坚强的女生,加油~
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on January 05, 2022, 04:33:40 PM
the photos are great! thank you for sharing! it seems even with precice lengthening it can be somewhat enjoyable too. well wishes for you.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on January 06, 2022, 03:54:37 PM
 :) Yesterday was review day. I was very busy, so I came to update it today.
(https://i.imgur.com/wjfKhiw.jpg)

Yesterday, after I finished Pt in the rehabilitation center, the driver came to pick me up and rushed to the hospital immediately. After I finished Pt, I was only half an hour away from the doctor's appointment, which was just enough to go to the hospital.

Who knew that the elevator in the rehabilitation center broke down. My driver carried me down from the third floor (fortunately, I was lighter). The rehabilitation division helped me take me off the driver's back and put me on the co pilot. Then I moved my electric wheelchair down from the third floor. It's really hard for them. Thank you.

After reporting to the hospital, I went to take an X-ray film and took a meal from all angles. The younger brother was very gentle. I waited two minutes and got the X-ray disc.
(https://i.imgur.com/Zu2iavk.jpg)

After that, I came to the doctor's door to wait. Today's reexamination was Dr. g. he showed me in the computer. He just took an X-ray today, and everything was normal.
I was told to eat 2500 calories a day.
Let me change the extension of tibia to twice a day in the next 2 weeks.
The doctor told me to walk with a walker for 30-45 minutes every day.
Dr. g asked me to extend it from there. I said right. Dr. g asked whether it was always right? I said yes, Dr. g asked me to start from the right and the left one day, alternating in this way.

Then I asked Dr. g some questions I sorted out:
1 the P model used for my tibia is 8.5mm,
  The P model used for the femur is 10.7 mm.
2 the weight of four P in my body is one kilogram + 200 grams.

After the review, my driver came to pick me up and went back to the hotel. Ha ha, there was an ice cream shop I liked on the way. The driver went to buy it for me. I also wanted to take a large package back to the hotel and put it in the refrigerator. My husband will come in a few days. I want to stay in the hotel with him and share my love of ice cream.
(https://i.imgur.com/9Ff9M6X.jpg)

Go back to the hotel to have dinner, wash your hair and take a bath, do stretching exercises and extend...... the busy day is over.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: c on January 06, 2022, 05:19:15 PM
:) Yesterday was review day. I was very busy, so I came to update it today.
(https://i.imgur.com/wjfKhiw.jpg)

Yesterday, after I finished Pt in the rehabilitation center, the driver came to pick me up and rushed to the hospital immediately. After I finished Pt, I was only half an hour away from the doctor's appointment, which was just enough to go to the hospital.

Who knew that the elevator in the rehabilitation center broke down. My driver carried me down from the third floor (fortunately, I was lighter). The rehabilitation division helped me take me off the driver's back and put me on the co pilot. Then I moved my electric wheelchair down from the third floor. It's really hard for them. Thank you.

After reporting to the hospital, I went to take an X-ray film and took a meal from all angles. The younger brother was very gentle. I waited two minutes and got the X-ray disc.
(https://i.imgur.com/Zu2iavk.jpg)

After that, I came to the doctor's door to wait. Today's reexamination was Dr. g. he showed me in the computer. He just took an X-ray today, and everything was normal.
I was told to eat 2500 calories a day.
Let me change the extension of tibia to twice a day in the next 2 weeks.
The doctor told me to walk with a walker for 30-45 minutes every day.
Dr. g asked me to extend it from there. I said right. Dr. g asked whether it was always right? I said yes, Dr. g asked me to start from the right and the left one day, alternating in this way.

Then I asked Dr. g some questions I sorted out:
1 the P model used for my tibia is 8.5mm,
  The P model used for the femur is 10.7 mm.
2 the weight of four P in my body is one kilogram + 200 grams.

After the review, my driver came to pick me up and went back to the hotel. Ha ha, there was an ice cream shop I liked on the way. The driver went to buy it for me. I also wanted to take a large package back to the hotel and put it in the refrigerator. My husband will come in a few days. I want to stay in the hotel with him and share my love of ice cream.
(https://i.imgur.com/9Ff9M6X.jpg)

Go back to the hotel to have dinner, wash your hair and take a bath, do stretching exercises and extend...... the busy day is over.
  看着蛮好的,请问你目前延长到多少了呢
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on January 06, 2022, 05:50:35 PM
  看着蛮好的,请问你目前延长到多少了呢

胫骨3点多厘米,股骨1点多厘米
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: c on January 07, 2022, 03:06:28 AM
胫骨3点多厘米,股骨1点多厘米
好的,不错加油
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on January 13, 2022, 03:53:00 PM
On the review day on January 5th, Dr. G emphasized that I should eat 2,500 calories a day. After I returned to the hotel, I consciously let myself eat more, and then I vomited. After I threw up, I started to lose my appetite. I felt nauseous, very uncomfortable.

A few days later, my husband came to Greece last weekend and started to make me all kinds of appetizers. I vomited from the beginning, and it was not until yesterday that I was able to eat without nausea and after eating. After my husband came, everything is better, and I feel better.
(https://i.imgur.com/C4tdnuR.jpg)

If I had another chance, I would choose to do only the tibia first, and then do the femur when I recover from the needle removal.
It's really painful to do the tibia and femur at the same time every 3 weeks. When I only did the tibia, my condition was really good and easy.
In addition, I think it is very necessary to have a family member (boyfriend, friend, husband and wife, parents...), this operation is not only the pain of surgery and PT, but also more details of life are also a big test.

I've been in good shape for the past week, but doing PT is quite painful for me at the moment, screaming and laughing in pain.
This male physical therapist teases me every time and makes every pt always so much fun.
(https://i.imgur.com/t2iA1zl.jpg)

I wear these shoes to bed at night, but after a long time I will unconsciously take them off in my sleep, because it is uncomfortable to wear them for a long time. I also need to get up in the middle of the night to extend the femur, and I will play with this shoe again, but I will unconsciously take it off after a long time of sleep, so when I can lie down during the day, I will try my best to do it. Wear this shoe more.
(https://i.imgur.com/nfMIcFk.jpg)

When I have severe insomnia, I will take this melatonin, but I can't take this melatonin for more than a month, I only take it occasionally.
(https://i.imgur.com/fOCDoTY.jpg)

I have bought a lot of cake shops, I like this one the most, and I bought it again to share with my husband and friends.
The clerk gave me a small bag of chocolates as a gift. I asked the driver if this store gave me a gift every time? The driver said because the clerk remembered me.

 :) By the way, starting today, I found that it became easier for me to turn over.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: sprit33 on January 13, 2022, 10:05:07 PM
On the review day on January 5th, Dr. G emphasized that I should eat 2,500 calories a day. After I returned to the hotel, I consciously let myself eat more, and then I vomited. After I threw up, I started to lose my appetite. I felt nauseous, very uncomfortable.

A few days later, my husband came to Greece last weekend and started to make me all kinds of appetizers. I vomited from the beginning, and it was not until yesterday that I was able to eat without nausea and after eating. After my husband came, everything is better, and I feel better.
(https://i.imgur.com/C4tdnuR.jpg)

If I had another chance, I would choose to do only the tibia first, and then do the femur when I recover from the needle removal.
It's really painful to do the tibia and femur at the same time every 3 weeks. When I only did the tibia, my condition was really good and easy.
In addition, I think it is very necessary to have a family member (boyfriend, friend, husband and wife, parents...), this operation is not only the pain of surgery and PT, but also more details of life are also a big test.

I've been in good shape for the past week, but doing PT is quite painful for me at the moment, screaming and laughing in pain.
This male physical therapist teases me every time and makes every pt always so much fun.
(https://i.imgur.com/t2iA1zl.jpg)

I wear these shoes to bed at night, but after a long time I will unconsciously take them off in my sleep, because it is uncomfortable to wear them for a long time. I also need to get up in the middle of the night to extend the femur, and I will play with this shoe again, but I will unconsciously take it off after a long time of sleep, so when I can lie down during the day, I will try my best to do it. Wear this shoe more.
(https://i.imgur.com/nfMIcFk.jpg)

When I have severe insomnia, I will take this melatonin, but I can't take this melatonin for more than a month, I only take it occasionally.
(https://i.imgur.com/fOCDoTY.jpg)

I have bought a lot of cake shops, I like this one the most, and I bought it again to share with my husband and friends.
The clerk gave me a small bag of chocolates as a gift. I asked the driver if this store gave me a gift every time? The driver said because the clerk remembered me.

 :) By the way, starting today, I found that it became easier for me to turn over.

cool~越来越好~吃不下去的话,尝试少食多餐,也许有帮助
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: c on January 14, 2022, 09:39:40 AM
On the review day on January 5th, Dr. G emphasized that I should eat 2,500 calories a day. After I returned to the hotel, I consciously let myself eat more, and then I vomited. After I threw up, I started to lose my appetite. I felt nauseous, very uncomfortable.

A few days later, my husband came to Greece last weekend and started to make me all kinds of appetizers. I vomited from the beginning, and it was not until yesterday that I was able to eat without nausea and after eating. After my husband came, everything is better, and I feel better.
(https://i.imgur.com/C4tdnuR.jpg)

If I had another chance, I would choose to do only the tibia first, and then do the femur when I recover from the needle removal.
It's really painful to do the tibia and femur at the same time every 3 weeks. When I only did the tibia, my condition was really good and easy.
In addition, I think it is very necessary to have a family member (boyfriend, friend, husband and wife, parents...), this operation is not only the pain of surgery and PT, but also more details of life are also a big test.

I've been in good shape for the past week, but doing PT is quite painful for me at the moment, screaming and laughing in pain.
This male physical therapist teases me every time and makes every pt always so much fun.
(https://i.imgur.com/t2iA1zl.jpg)

I wear these shoes to bed at night, but after a long time I will unconsciously take them off in my sleep, because it is uncomfortable to wear them for a long time. I also need to get up in the middle of the night to extend the femur, and I will play with this shoe again, but I will unconsciously take it off after a long time of sleep, so when I can lie down during the day, I will try my best to do it. Wear this shoe more.
(https://i.imgur.com/nfMIcFk.jpg)

When I have severe insomnia, I will take this melatonin, but I can't take this melatonin for more than a month, I only take it occasionally.
(https://i.imgur.com/fOCDoTY.jpg)

I have bought a lot of cake shops, I like this one the most, and I bought it again to share with my husband and friends.
The clerk gave me a small bag of chocolates as a gift. I asked the driver if this store gave me a gift every time? The driver said because the clerk remembered me.

 :) By the way, starting today, I found that it became easier for me to turn over.
你的文字越来越像老外性格了,😂,加油
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on January 14, 2022, 12:59:05 PM
Lucky star thanks for your update. Its good to know that your husband came.

Are the shoes included in Dr Giotikas package or you bought them yourself?

Thanks and hope you can be more comfortable from now on
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on January 24, 2022, 03:40:29 PM
cool~越来越好~吃不下去的话,尝试少食多餐,也许有帮助

Thank you, I have been eating 4 meals a day, but the total calories are not enough, so after the review, I forced myself to eat a little more each meal, and I became nauseous and vomited, and started to lose my appetite.

When my husband came, he cooked me my favorite dishes, then gave me a fruit and nut platter between meals, and now I'm much better and everything is normal.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on January 24, 2022, 03:42:09 PM
你的文字越来越像老外性格了,😂,加油

其实我就是一个逗比,哈哈哈哈哈
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on January 24, 2022, 03:45:48 PM
Lucky star thanks for your update. Its good to know that your husband came.

Are the shoes included in Dr Giotikas package or you bought them yourself?

Thanks and hope you can be more comfortable from now on

The rehabilitation center will give you a pair of shoes (grey), which are included in the package.

The physio at the rehab felt that the shoes I brought from China would suit me better, so let me wear my own shoes (blue).

Finally thank you for your blessings.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on January 24, 2022, 06:49:07 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/6gZol3f.jpg)
On the afternoon of January 18, I went to the hospital for a re-examination (my husband went with me), took X-rays, got the CD a few minutes later, and went to wait outside the doctor's office. This time, the re-examination was still by Dr. G, on the doctor's computer. I saw the new X-rays, everything was normal, the doctor said my callus was neither the best nor bad, he said he was not worried, but because of the rapid extension, the muscles could not keep up, the doctor told me to stop the extension 2 Weeks, I'll be at the rehab center with new equipment to fix everything.

So far I have lengthened my tibia by 3.7cm and my femur by 2.7cm.

Last week I went to the rehab center to do PT, it was very painful, and I found out that I have the talent to be a soprano.
Other patients said they could hear me screaming on the first floor, and the neighbors on the first floor who were walking their dogs looked up and around in fright... (rehab center is on the third floor). I guess everyone thought it was a murder scene!
When I came back, I told my husband that my husband said I was a "shock maker"(中文:”震楼器“ )which is a very incisive description! Want to laugh at me?
Again, doing the femur and tibia at the same time is really painful! ! !
Whether doing femur, tibia, or both femur and tibia... It is best to ask your family to accompany you, you will be much better.

In addition, the most surgical friends can prepare a pair of sports gloves for Lajin.
The ones I prepared are short ones, and the unprotected half of my fingers have become calluses, so it would be better if you prepare a pair of long ones.

When I was about to start walking on the anti-gravity treadmill, the gravity wasn't right, I flew, and while I was waiting for the physiotherapist to fix it for me, I opened my arms (like a bird in flight) and hummed. Singing: "I'm a little bird, I want to fly but I can't fly high...". Hahahaha, and then the two physiotherapists sang a very cheerful English song together.
(https://i.imgur.com/i8jvrUy.jpg)

The doctor asked me if I had lost a lot of weight, and I said I don't know. After returning to the hotel, I sat and weighed with the scale. My weight was almost the same as before the operation, so I just lost the weight of 4 P needles (4 needles). P needle is about one kilogram plus 200 grams).

After my husband came, I am in a much better state. I can eat all kinds of food I like every day. I have 3 platters (various fruits and nuts) every day. In addition, I drink a protein drink and 3 cups of juice every day.
(https://i.imgur.com/sMD3j2U.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yJA77WN.jpg)


 :) Also had hot pot...
(https://i.imgur.com/ytxiJM9.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fnFKLOw.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/r2959fI.jpg)

My husband also helps me relax my legs, stretch my legs, and do PT exercises taught by a physical therapist every day.

My husband accompanies me to watch a movie every afternoon and evening. It feels really good and happy to have someone with me during this special period.
I also went to the weekly market, very lively, fruit, vegetables, nuts...everything.
(https://i.imgur.com/BTrz0v9.jpg)

 :D I have become friends with more than 10 stray cats. I like to feed the pigeons every day. This week, I also found that there are more than a dozen parrots here, very beautiful green parrots. Parrots are much smarter than pigeons and can hold a large piece The bread flew to the tree to eat slowly.
(https://i.imgur.com/OmSsLZh.jpg)

These are the supplies my husband brought me when he came.
(https://i.imgur.com/bhZAt4h.jpg)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: SuchLL on January 24, 2022, 08:56:01 PM
Each precice nail is 1.2 kg?  :o
Or 4 precice nails are 1.2 kg in total?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on January 24, 2022, 09:07:25 PM
Each precice nail is 1.2 kg?  :o
Or 4 precice nails are 1.2 kg in total?

4 total weight.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: SuchLL on January 24, 2022, 11:37:23 PM
4 total weight.

I have 2 stryde nails and 2 precice nails and I was like “wait are they 4.8 kgs??” lol…
The parrots are so cute btw! Glad to see you’re making good progress!
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: canterk on February 20, 2022, 08:24:48 PM
hey lucky star, how are you doing now? how much lengthened so far? :)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on February 22, 2022, 05:20:29 PM
I have been very busy recently. It takes about three hours to do PT at the rehabilitation center. When I go back to the hotel, I have to use the machine to do leg exercises for 2 hours, leg pressing and stretching for 2 hours... Basically, I spend about 7 hours a day on PT. Also eat 4 meals, 3 fruit bowls, N many snack nuts...and scar management.

Snacks are still delicious in their own country!
(https://i.imgur.com/frUosdE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/klyl1x3.jpg)

 I can receive flowers every week. Every day I wake up and see the flowers on the bedside table, I will be in a good mood.
(https://i.imgur.com/aOh3Ewa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/SGaprdg.jpg)

Having an electric wheelchair is really convenient, you can go anywhere you want.
(https://i.imgur.com/6qL7Mgu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Zm64cu6.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jsKccq9.jpg)

Going to the supermarket is also especially good for packing things. Shopping basket, hanging a bag, holding a bag in front
(https://i.imgur.com/wx4Fr1R.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/IWFarTJ.jpg)

This is the Chinese New Year's Eve dinner my husband cooked on January 31st.
(https://i.imgur.com/V5eMx0h.jpg)
This is the man's hand.
(https://i.imgur.com/reWaJ67.jpg)

 On January 18, I saw a doctor for a review, and the doctor asked for a 2-week suspension. On February 3, the doctor told the situation at the time, and the doctor let the recovery be extended.

I went for a review on February 8, the tibia callus was slow, and the tibia extended the stop for another 2 weeks, and then the recovery and extension stopped again after a few days. The callus of the femur was good and was extended 3 times a day until review after 2 weeks.
(https://i.imgur.com/FDowD6W.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wXLA9QD.jpg)

February 14th is Valentine's Day. My husband took me to buy a bag and some silk scarves. I was lucky enough to buy a bag with zero distribution. The salesman told me that I had a bag first, but I bought the silk scarf when I saw that I liked it. of.
(https://i.imgur.com/CvpmRxq.jpg)

I went to buy shoes on February 16, and the saleswoman also gave me a Valentine's Day gift box.
(https://i.imgur.com/MauVbxx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5D5Ukpo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7hFKDjd.jpg)

Bought another pair of ugly shoes (like my mom would wear) to make walking more comfortable during PT.
(https://i.imgur.com/C53m6Bk.jpg)

On February 21, the beautiful woman in the rehabilitation center had her birthday. I wrapped the gift by myself, hahahaha, the ribbon that wrapped the gift was made by the store where I bought the cake.
(https://i.imgur.com/eVirM0q.jpg)

Yesterday, another leg girl said that my legs are the thinnest she has ever seen, which is the legendary manga leg. She said that my legs are long enough. I said that I have to continue. She said they should be too thin. Long... She didn't say that I haven't paid attention to this issue, because I'm very busy every day, and I just want to finish PT well, and get through it day by day... When I got home to the hotel, I looked at my legs in the mirror, and then I put them on Before the surgery, my 11cm high heels (sitting) did look too thin (not good looking), it should be thicker when I can walk normally after the extension, I think it will look better.

February 23 (tomorrow) is the re-examination day, and I have to see a doctor, so I weighed myself this morning, minus the weight of the P needle in my body, and the weight has risen to the same as before the operation, which is a good thing.

At present, my tibia has completed 4 cm, and my femur is close to 4 cm. The double segment is really painful. At present, when I do PT in the rehabilitation center, I still have a few movements that hurt me (all kinds of strange calls, laughter... …) Other leg-making friends also follow me, and so do rehabilitation practitioners!

I have the same daily schedule now, so there is nothing special to share. If you have any questions, you can comment.

You must prepare a pair of long sports gloves. I prepared short ones. The calluses on my hands are worn out. This is the first calluses to be pulled out!
(https://i.imgur.com/imrcXBW.jpg)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: c on February 23, 2022, 02:21:20 PM
好的,其实双断4厘米是个不错的结果,但我印象中你应该确实需要多做一些,我能理解,不过还是安全延长为主吧,应该快了
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: karin123 on April 03, 2022, 05:29:11 PM
Hi, how are you doing
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on May 05, 2022, 08:23:17 PM
Hi, how are you doing

Thank you for your concern, everything is fine.
 :)
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on May 05, 2022, 08:56:55 PM
 :)

I haven’t updated for a long time. During this period, I went to the hospital for re-examination (filming, seeing a doctor, and buying my favorite brand of yogurt at the supermarket at the crossroads of the hospital). Everything is normal, nothing special, and I need it every day. There are so many rehabilitation exercises done, so I haven't been here for a long time to read news.

I have insisted on recording every review, life... in WeChat, maybe there will be time to synchronize it in the future, but it is nothing special.

To sum up, from the surgery to now, my tibia has stopped extending a total of 4 times (over 60 days in total) so far, and my femur should be only once.
The most common reason for the delay was that the doctor felt that my tibial callus was not growing fast enough.

At present, I am stopping the extension. The doctor asked me to resume the extension next week, and the extension will be completed in late May. The doctor told me to continue PT for another month after the extension is completed to help me recover and walk faster.

The most frustrating thing right now is that I have no way to go back home! !
The flights I purchased in mid-March, late March, early April, and the end of April were all cut off!
(Direct flights to Beijing)
Airline replies are not in the schedule until the end of October 2022! !

I saw a direct flight to Guangzhou in August, more than 100,000 RMB per ticket, crazy!
The key is that even if you buy it, there is no guarantee that the flight will not be cancelled! ! !

Fortunately, my husband is here with me. We are considering traveling to some other countries in early July. Do you have any good recommendations? I really don't want to spend more than 200,000 yuan to buy two air tickets back to China.
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: tao on May 05, 2022, 10:54:25 PM
谢谢你写的这么详细的日记,看起来很好。
现在回国确实不容易。所以最后你的小腿是就停止在4cm了是吗?
不知道如果做单断小腿术前拉伸好的话能不能到达6cm?
你们有希腊签证可以到西欧这边转转啊
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Lucky star on May 06, 2022, 04:05:23 PM
不是的,到目前为止我小腿一共停止延长了4次,不是我小腿停止在4厘米的意思。
我认为单段小腿6厘米并不是一个很难完成的目标。
我是2021年9月10来号抵达雅典的,后来又申请了签证延期,现在签证延期的90天也过了…………酒店跟我说:我要躲警察远一些 ::)哈哈哈哈!
所以我现在不管去哪个国家都需要在希腊申请其他国家的签证。
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: c on May 08, 2022, 05:15:29 PM
好的 恭喜你 请问你大腿和小腿分别做了多少呢
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: ilovescience on May 08, 2022, 06:03:46 PM
不是的,到目前为止我小腿一共停止延长了4次,不是我小腿停止在4厘米的意思。
我认为单段小腿6厘米并不是一个很难完成的目标。
我是2021年9月10来号抵达雅典的,后来又申请了签证延期,现在签证延期的90天也过了…………酒店跟我说:我要躲警察远一些 ::)哈哈哈哈!
所以我现在不管去哪个国家都需要在希腊申请其他国家的签证。

你的日記寫得很棒呢!回國後你會寫身高增高後的生活嗎?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Destiny666 on July 01, 2022, 07:34:11 PM
Excuse me. I would like to ask how do you pay the fee, do you remit money in China or swipe your credit card when you arrive in Athens?
Title: Re: Tibia & Femur with Dr. Giotikas and Precice in 2021.
Post by: Bagga on July 06, 2022, 01:25:01 AM
Can you walk with crutches now?