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[shortisnotfun]

As you guys might know, I completed 5cm on my tibias with a monolateral method.

During surgery, the doctor woke me up (yes, he woke me up when I was under anesthesia) and informed me that my bone canal was too narrow and a nail wouldn't fit, so I would be lengthening without one. (I later learned from another doctor this was most likely a lie, and Dr. Yuksel probably didn't measure my bone canal properly, or he didn't have the correct size intramedullary nail to put in) (What type of doctor is he?!).

You can see it with the x-ray attached here, there is a hole where he drilled into my bones, put in a nail, realized it didn't fit, and took it out.

https://ibb.co/7bqBLHv

During lengthening, I noticed both of my legs becoming more crooked as the lengthening progress went on. I constantly told Dr. Yurttas about my issue worried it was going to lead to x-legs, and he told me not to worry, it would be solved after the removal, when the tension from the fixator goes away. (I believed them, worst mistake ever.)

Notice how my leg is bending:

https://ibb.co/Ps2G3Yp

After removal of the fixator I had, I woke up with the worst pain I ever experienced, but I managed. Over the days after the fixator removal, I noticed I still had bent legs and knock knees. Every time, I asked the doctor, he would say it's normal and will go away with physical therapy.
I believed him, as it looked straight from the x-ray they take just of my tibia. (You need to get a standing x-ray from your hips to your ankle to actually check if your entire leg is straight).


My knock knees wasn't getting any better so, I went to go get a standing x-ray in the hospital that Yuksel Yurttas operates in. After that, I went to see Yurttas in his office, who was extremely busy. He was constantly on his phone while speaking to me and barely spoke to me. I asked him if my standing x-ray was straight, and he basically LIED and said it was. I took a picture of my standing x-ray.

You tell me if it's straight or not:


https://postimg.cc/xN3jgBc7


After seeing my standing x-ray, I emailed multiple doctors from the US, to Greece, to South Africa, to even doctors in Istanbul. They all informed me that I had Genu Valgum (x-legs) from a bone deformity caused by incorrect nail placement during surgery.


I then asked to see Dr Yuksel Yurttas again. I wanted to see what he would do to fix it, or if I would even allow this man to touch my legs again after he gave me crooked bones.

I waited an hour outside his office in the hospital until he got out of surgery. He came and didn't even look at me. He basically wanted to go home and didn't want to speak to me and I got a very rude vibe from him.

I went inside his office after that and spoke to him about my issue. I informed him I don't trust him anymore to touch my legs and I wanted him to pay for a correction surgery for my legs. He informed me that I didn't do enough physiotherapy because my ankles were stiff (what does that have to do with my knock knees?!). He was yelling at me, in a very harsh tone, and acting very disrespectful. He kept moving in circles and then getting in my face constantly. He treated me like I was a child.

He then told me how he would fix it. He would REUSE the same nails and put it back in my bone and align it again. First of all, I know this is not how you correct a deformity, you need an Ilizarov frame during surgery to correct malalignment, not just a nail placement and "good enough". On top of that, he wanted to REUSE the same materials. I'm not getting a bone infection because I let him touch my legs again with the same equipment, hell no.
I told him I'm not doing any surgery with him anymore, and he didn't account for my mechanical axis during surgery, causing me my bent legs.

He stormed out of his office suddenly and left. 


I walk now, but my knees bend inwards constantly. My thighs touch each other and it messes up my walking not to mention looks absolutely terrible. What's the point of doing LL if you have crooked legs?


Conclusion:
Stay away from Dr. Yuksel Yurttas, he is not qualified to be a limb lengthening doctor. He left me and another friend with bent legs, nerve problems and multiple issues, and REFUSES to take any acknowledgment.


Basically,
I did a LON Tibia surgery, I got x-legs, because the Dr Yurttas didn't properly plan the surgery out. He lied to me saying my bones were straight, and now I need another surgery to fix a problem I should have never got.


X rays of procurvatum:


https://postimg.cc/WFr1qdjs

https://postimg.cc/rRkF1qFx

[shortisnotfun]

Another patient that Yuksel Yurttas has crippled:

[Beemer m3]

if u used ilizarov circular frames they straighten ur legs . im not sure about monorail frames but yeh ilizarov frames are good at times.

[shortisnotfun]

if u used ilizarov circular frames they straighten ur legs . im not sure about monorail frames but yeh ilizarov frames are good at times.

It was monorail. Yuksel Yurttas doesn’t have the skill nor the experience to put on circular frames. And even if he did, he’d still f’u’ck it up as he’s crippled 20+ patients.

[jbfjbj4]

Another patient that Yuksel Yurttas has crippled:

This guy is a moron who keeps getting botched whereever he goes. He should have stayed well away from orthopaedic surgeries and focused instead on fixing his subhuman looking face.

[shortisnotfun]

This guy is a moron who keeps getting botched whereever he goes. He should have stayed well away from orthopaedic surgeries and focused instead on fixing his subhuman looking face.

Yes, he needs to pick his doctors properly! Not Yuksel Yurttas!

[Acemace86]

He did a jaw surgery in India

[AnotherLLer]

Every time I watch that footage brings shivers down to my spine. Looks brutal AF.

Which segment he did and what method? What was the reason for his terrible outcome? Looks like nerve damage or even worse.

[shortisnotfun]

Every time I watch that footage brings shivers down to my spine. Looks brutal AF.

Which segment he did and what method? What was the reason for his terrible outcome? Looks like nerve damage or even worse.

He did LON Tibia but Yuksel Yurttas cheap equipment broke and he got disabled and got nerve damage.

[AnotherLLer]

It was monorail isn't it? Ilizarov on tibia is by far superior next to TSF frames for external tibia lengthening. Why do they use monorail on tibia in Turkey IDK.

So, if the device didn't malfunction, he would be fine then?

I hope that pure external tibia with decent frames won't be an issue as that's what I'm going to do in about a year.

[shortisnotfun]

It was monorail isn't it? Ilizarov on tibia is by far superior next to TSF frames for external tibia lengthening. Why do they use monorail on tibia in Turkey IDK.

So, if the device didn't malfunction, he would be fine then?

I hope that pure external tibia with decent frames won't be an issue as that's what I'm going to do in about a year.

Well tbh it’s not really about the monorail it’s that Yuksel Yurttas doesn’t know how to properly insert a nail. Starting point is too low on the tibia and there are no blocking screws which is a mistake even a juvenile doctor wouldn’t make. Be very careful of going to these Turkish butchers! They are criminals!

[AnotherLLer]

So the problem was doing LON in the first place then. Of course it requires much higher precision and expertise to insert internal nails and that's why it's better to do pure external for tibia and somehow endure being in frames for about a year.

Regarding Turkey, what do you think about doing PRECICE femur there with a doc who has a proven track record of performing it?

[shortisnotfun]

So the problem was doing LON in the first place then. Of course it requires much higher precision and expertise to insert internal nails and that's why it's better to do pure external for tibia and somehow endure being in frames for about a year.

Regarding Turkey, what do you think about doing PRECICE femur there with a doc who has a proven track record of performing it?

Exactly. You need a skilled doctor to do LON, not a hack like Yuksel Yurttas and the other Turkish butchers. I regret going to Turkey, as Yuksel Yurttas and the other butchers are garbage conmen.

Precice Femur is an better choice than tibia, but if you do it, don’t do it with Yuksel Yurttas, or any of the other Turkish butchers!

[AnotherLLer]

Well, I'm going to go with a doc who does external tibia for decades. He is specialized in corrections and deformities so I guess I will be fine doing pure external tibia with him and if I get misalignment during the distraction phase, he will be able to correct it before my bones fuse.

Turkey is a mixed bag when it comes to surgeries. There are many clinics and they advertise like crazy. It gives the country the bad rep for doing LL there, although, I believe that not all LL docs are bad there though. One needs to research a lot before pulling the trigger.

In terms of safety, pure external tibia with sturdy frames (not monorails) with the ability for corrections is the best bang for the buck with an experienced surgeon. 2.5-3 inches can be done if one is really short and after that, it's better to grind the money like crazy and save for internal femurs with decent doc rather than cheap out and do LON femurs in Turkey and play Russian roulette.

After all, 3 inches from tibia is not a joke as it adds significant height and makes one appear even taller than he is. For guys between 5'5-5'8, that additional 2.5-3 inch boost from tibia is life changing and they can always wear 2 inch elevators after that to stand even taller until they get enough money for internal femur.

[shortisnotfun]

Well, I'm going to go with a doc who does external tibia for decades. He is specialized in corrections and deformities so I guess I will be fine doing pure external tibia with him and if I get misalignment during the distraction phase, he will be able to correct it before my bones fuse.

Turkey is a mixed bag when it comes to surgeries. There are many clinics and they advertise like crazy. It gives the country the bad rep for doing LL there, although, I believe that not all LL docs are bad there though. One needs to research a lot before pulling the trigger.

In terms of safety, pure external tibia with sturdy frames (not monorails) with the ability for corrections is the best bang for the buck with an experienced surgeon. 2.5-3 inches can be done if one is really short and after that, it's better to grind the money like crazy and save for internal femurs with decent doc rather than cheap out and do LON femurs in Turkey and play Russian roulette.

After all, 3 inches from tibia is not a joke as it adds significant height and makes one appear even taller than he is. For guys between 5'5-5'8, that additional 2.5-3 inch boost from tibia is life changing and they can always wear 2 inch elevators after that to stand even taller until they get enough money for internal femur.

Yes, you need to choose a good doctor who is specialized in deformity correction. Not a butcher like Yuksel Yurttas who gives multiple patients chronic pain, deformities, and nerve damage! Yuksel Yurttas is a butcher, and the worst surgeon in Turkey! He needs to be in prison!

[shortisnotfun]

You can’t trust these Turkish surgeons! They are born liars and are super arrogant! They need to be in prison for crippling more than 20+ patients! Yuksel Yurttas is a professor in Turkey which just shows you how bad the education system in in Turkey if this butcher is teaching classes!

[AnotherLLer]

You shouldn't have done monorail tibia at all cost. It causes misalignment of bones and is not appropriate for corrections. That's why they only use it for humerus and femur. For tibia, only viable choice is TSF or Ilizarov frames because with the use of them, doctors are capable to correct any misalignment during and after the distraction phase.

You have to fix your misaligned bones before you move on with life. Contact doctors in Russia or other place where they routinely perform corrections and get it done to avoid further complications.

Tibia lengthening requires extensive experience in deformity corrections so if a doctor is incapable of correcting deformed tibia bones, you should avoid him at all cost. I guess that Yuksel guy is incapable of that, otherwise he wouldn't be performing tibia lengthening using monorail device in the first place.

[shortisnotfun]

You shouldn't have done monorail tibia at all cost. It causes misalignment of bones and is not appropriate for corrections. That's why they only use it for humerus and femur. For tibia, only viable choice is TSF or Ilizarov frames because with the use of them, doctors are capable to correct any misalignment during and after the distraction phase.

You have to fix your misaligned bones before you move on with life. Contact doctors in Russia or other place where they routinely perform corrections and get it done to avoid further complications.

Tibia lengthening requires extensive experience in deformity corrections so if a doctor is incapable of correcting deformed tibia bones, you should avoid him at all cost. I guess that Yuksel guy is incapable of that, otherwise he wouldn't be performing tibia lengthening using monorail device in the first place.

Yes, it will be fixed with doctors in America. I regret going to Yuksel Yurttas, the butcher. Who butchered multiple patients because he is money hungry and doesn’t know how to properly insert a nail in. Of which I am still suffering to this day!

[Dynamite]

I have been following your experience and sorry that things have not gone well, I am hoping that your legs get sorted.

Please can I just ask - you said on a previous post that Giotikas could/would be correcting your legs, here you say you are going to the US to get them corrected. Did you decide not to go with Dr Giotikas and if so why not?

[shortisnotfun]

I have been following your experience and sorry that things have not gone well, I am hoping that your legs get sorted.

Please can I just ask - you said on a previous post that Giotikas could/would be correcting your legs, here you say you are going to the US to get them corrected. Did you decide not to go with Dr Giotikas and if so why not?

Giotikas claimed he could, but not much changed with his approach. Meaning whatever he did was unsuccessful. The only way to properly correct a bony deformity is a TSF frame, which Giotikas claimed he didn’t need.

This is why you need to be very careful of the orthopedic doctors you choose. A junior doctor studying orthopedics in the US wouldn’t make the same mistakes Giotikas and Yuksel Yurttas made!

Although the bony deformity was created by the butcher Yuksel Yurttas, Giotiaks claimed he could fix it without a TSF frame, which turned out to not be true. Even a junior doctor studying at ICLL would know that! Why does a patient know more than a surgeon??

[shortisnotfun]

For anyone reading this thread if you have been crippled by the butcher Yuksel Yurttas:

Dr. Assayag is the doctor you need to see. Dr Assayag is one of the greatest LL specialist doctors, and will properly fix you up.

[Maison]

How did Dr. Giotikas explain correcting your Genu Valgum and procurvatum deformity without using TSF?

[shortisnotfun]

How did Dr. Giotikas explain correcting your Genu Valgum and procurvatum deformity without using TSF?

He said he would take the nail out, put blocking screws, and correct it from there! It was unsuccessful and he also claimed my right leg didn’t have an issue! (Which I later found it does as well)

As you can see from my x-rays he only tried correcting my left leg because of that! (And charged me for both!!!) (Only my left leg has blocking screws)


https://postimg.cc/xN3jgBc7

Although my main issue is with the butcher Yuksel Yurttas, I don’t think that even Dr Giotikas has a clue about deformity principles, because even a junior doctor wouldn’t make those mistakes!

Another patient on this forum had the same issue with procurvatum and tried to get it fixed with Dr Giotikas, and it was unsuccessful. I wish I had seen his post before I went to Giotikas!

[Maison]

He said he would take the nail out, put blocking screws, and correct it from there! It was unsuccessful and he also claimed my right leg didn’t have an issue! (Which I later found it does as well)

As you can see from my x-rays he only tried correcting my left leg because of that! (And charged me for both!!!) (Only my left leg has blocking screws)


https://postimg.cc/xN3jgBc7

Although my main issue is with the butcher Yuksel Yurttas, I don’t think that even Dr Giotikas has a clue about deformity principles, because even a junior doctor wouldn’t make those mistakes!

Another patient on this forum had the same issue with procurvatum and tried to get it fixed with Dr Giotikas, and it was unsuccessful. I wish I had seen his post before I went to Giotikas!

I was wondering why blocking screws are only used for the left tibia, and your explanation made it clear.
In my opinion, I think it should be possible for a skilled surgeon to perform deformity correction using nail changes and blocking screws, but it seems that Giotikas had difficulty with this.
Please take care.

[Bob]

...Another patient on this forum had the same issue with procurvatum and tried to get it fixed with Dr Giotikas, and it was unsuccessful. I wish I had seen his post before I went to Giotikas!

Do you have a link to this other patient post?

[shortisnotfun]

Do you have a link to this other patient post?

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64280.msg164727#msg164727

Sure, it’s the third and seventh reply:

suddenurge:

“Doctor Giotikas said that TSF frames were not necessary, he would fix it with corrective surgery. It turns out that this was not true. If Doctor Giotikas had delivered what he promised, I would be satisfied. But he didn't.“

[Bob]

Skilled surgeons can correct procurvatum deformity (of course depends on how much procurvatum you have) with internal nails (very well known surgeons told me this).

Good luck, hope you'll find the right surgeon who can help you.

[shortisnotfun]

Skilled surgeons can correct procurvatum deformity (of course depends on how much procurvatum you have) with internal nails (very well known surgeons told me this).

Good luck, hope you'll find the right surgeon who can help you.

Procurvatum can only be corrected (when the bone is healed) with a TSF frame gradually. The reason is because of the nerves around the tibia.

You can lose the sensation of your feet (nerve damage) if you do an acute correction with a nail or a plate! This is due to where the nerves are around your tibia. If it is corrected acutely, then the nerves around the tibia are pinched. There is no guarantee that there won’t be nerve damage!

This is what the butcher Yuksel Yurttas has done to me. I will get this fixed with an American doctor but it’s so sickening how these Turkish butchers lie, cheat, and scam their way out of situations.