@LongHairGirlIt seems to me that she didn't have the surgery with this doctor.She went to a consultation with him and then spoke with some of his old patients.In fact she says "it might have saved me from making the worst decision"
It's your fault to have done the surgery with him in the first place. I mean I am not saying that he is a very bad doctor, but when there are much better doctors out there with better qualifications, publications and years of experience, then why go to this doctor? ll is a serious surgery and shouldn't be taken lightly. You should have done your research well before doing the surgery.
P.S I don't really believe your story 100%, but regardless of the genuineness, I still think that it's your fault if it's true.
As someone who recently visited with Dr. Monegal
ATwo girls started crying to me back in their rooms about how much they regret their decision and feel like they are in the care of an abusive partner.
I have been under Monegal’s care for years and, as a result, I’ve managed to meet most of his patients. In these 3 years there have been only 2 female cosmetic patients: me and a nice French lady who had surgery almost one year ago. This lady left many months ago, and you never visited me, so it’s virtually imposible that two girls have started crying to you back in their rooms about Monegal making them very uncomfortable.
As for the male patients, it’s true a few patients have had complications and/or have needed corrective surgery (as it often happens in LL with any doctor), but I can’t recognize any of the cases you’re talking about in your post.
It seems to me that she didn't have the surgery with this doctor.She went to a consultation with him and then spoke with some of his old patients.In fact she says "it might have saved me from making the worst decision"Yep, I realized that after I read the op post again, that's why I edited my post ;D
As a female patient from Dr Monegal I must say #longhairgirl story is absolutely fake and absolutely disgusting.It is interesting that all of you Monegal patients (Auron,Four Inch ecc) keep saying that this guy is a troll and has psychological issues.I saw also Auron saying Cooper doesn't exist implying that all that was said by Cooper is false.
I cannot see her point, but as a former patient I have been in contact with many other patients.
A part from MM, there are no female patients or residents doing CLL (confirmed with MIC).
Only female visitor (potential patient/not patient) at MIC in the last year was the 'multiple account holder' #Neverland #Summerbreeze...#Longhairlady???
As I said in my thread, Dr Monegal is not a regular doctor. He is smiley, kind, close to patient and very supportive. But all this accusations about the 2 girls crying in their bedrooms are absolutely FAKE. I beg the moderators to call MIC (www.micsantjordi.org) and check by yourself that apart from MM there haven't been NO FEMALE patients for more than a year there.
Most of the patients are in contact permanently via email or whatsapp. The cases of people with a 3 year lasting pain or a person undergoing 5 surgeries on his leg are absolutely invented.
I cannot see a point in this FAKE post, just to create drama and keep the attention.
As Helloworld and others suggested, people with psychiatric issues should not be considered as potential patients, specially for cosmetic CLL. You can be a troll (Datum) or support them (LLsouthamerica)...the decission is up to every single person. But this is way too much and moderators should take action inmediately.
I don't know what is more sad: the fact that some copycat troll is allowed to throw criminal accusations towards a doctor, out of the blue and with zero evidences; or the fact that a lot of users are willing to believe such bullcrap.There're 2 users in this forum who have been mentioning Monegal in every post, constantly attacking him. They are LLSouthAmerica and The Dreamer. One is a self proclaimed Guichet patient whos posts are all directed at Monegal and the other is a new account with 1 only goal and it's not LL.
There're 2 users in this forum who have been mentioning Monegal in every post, constantly attacking him. They are LLSouthAmerica and The Dreamer. One is a self proclaimed Guichet patient whos posts are all directed at Monegal and the other is a new account with 1 only goal and it's not LL.So it looks like me and llsouthamerica are on the "naugthy list"😂😂😂
Go figure ::)
U only live once, you can't talk about things you don't know because you never been to Barcelona. You don't know if this user tells the truth or pure lies. I have never heard about these girls but it doesn't mean it's not true. Lies? Maybe.
I do not know the troll or support him. I've simply been made aware of many unethical behaviours of Dr. Monegal and I'm trying to warn people into not giving their money to someone like him. For my own consciousness, I have to say it, whether you believe it or not it's up to you. For me, it is enough to plant the seed of doubt so that you put the words of this charismatic doctor in proper scrutiny.
Yea, I'm a Monegal clone account. if you can find time to stop snorting your "snow white" I'm in Apt 4.7, at the MiC's number is 93 252 32 00. Give me a call.
Yeah, Guichet has plenty of experience, just ask the Medical regulatory authority in France why he was forced to leave France.
I didn't post that I know all of Monegals patients, but certainly know more that you do.
Trolls like you just make me sick!
Auron(Monegal) you and your Monegal cronies cannot acuse everyone that critize Monegal do be a fake account. It is a nice strategy but it is to obvious. As soon as someone critize Monegal, you and the your cronies try to delegitimize them. Can moderator please ban these monegal trolls. A doc that spends all this time on the forum to attack everyone should be baned FFS! Enough of this already,this is insane!!
Your not a fake account your just a dumb ass.
Your are nothing more that a slime bag. Give me a call if you think I'm Mongeal, I have already let you know how to contact me. Perhaps I think you are Guichet? Give me your contact information, I have Skype, I'll contact you.
I defend my LL doctor because I have total confidence in him, my procedure has gone extremely smooth and actually like him as a person. Name one patient that Monegal has abandoned! your can't because it has not happened. I have met some of the patients that have had experienced complications with Mongegal - and guess what - they appreciate him. Why? Because this is a risky procedure and he don't abandon you no matter if you have the money to pay for further surgery or not- he is in your corner for the duration.
Your continue your idiotic claim that Monegal has some sort of hypnotic power over his patients. Has it ever occurred to your "pathetic ass" that his patients stick up for him because we trust him? No, it's much easier to claim that we are clone accounts and that "we put our hands in the oven" - what ever that means.
I attack you because you are a troll, and a troll is a troll, they are what they post and deserve no mercy. There is no other reason for you to be totally consumed with Dr. Monegal when you have no relationship with him.
You claim that its irrational to defend your doctor? I say it irrational to slander someone who is not your doctor. What makes more sense? You are as dub as a rock.
I stand by everything I said about the Butcher From Barcelona. He is a dirty older man that constantly hits on and makes sxxual advances towards his younger female patients. Disgusting! Dr. Monegal has absolutely ruined a number of his patients lives by causing them crippling complications that he is unable to fix. If you talk to these patients in private when the good doctor is not around to monitor what they say, that's when you will hear the whole story. I really don't care what anyone says about me on this forum, call me a troll or whatever...My father raised me to be a much stronger girl than to care what some strangers say about me on the internet.
The fact that you cannot discuss anything without insulting makes you unworthy of continuing this. Just leave him be Shadow91. We have awakened the anger of the ultimate LL lurker: Dr. Monegal.
The only people I insult are blatantly slanderous cowards that hide behind the forum. Reading your ridiculous posts over and over again one multiple forums about a decent person that happens to be my doctor is infuriating. I have never seen such a targeted attack on a doctor that has had plenty of success.
Again, Im staying at MIC's Apt. 4.7, do you need the main number again? I would rather insult your face to face but at least I can continue to insult you over the phone and not subject others to my ranting.
Either way, I'm done with the Mongeal subject.
Post papirs / mails / bills from your Horrible experience.
If not. Ban this user.
Cooper's nightmare with Dr. Monegal: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2454.msg51176#msg51176
Monegal Issues:
1) Dishonest: He did not disclose all the information and lied on patient count and his experience. He emailed he performed 600 bone segments. Come to find out I was third tibia patient. One of his patient told me in Spain everyone lies. His manipulates deliberately and black mailed his patient to write good things about him and defend him as often as necessary. You cannot trust this doctor and his patient specially from Spain!!!
2) Unethical: If you are not honest than you do not have ethics. Especially in this profession you want to go to doctor who respects patient rights, if something is not right than let the patient know and possible solution to fix. Just not to say everything will be ok. You need more time.
3) Poor Osteotomy: Most of his patient has issue with callous formation. Interesting part is all of the patient with few exceptions are lengthening less than 6cm. Still have poor bone formation. I have both fibula and tibia non-union and misalignment. Grafted both and I gained only 5.3com. I thought I did 6 but the x-ray show 5.3com.
4) Poor logistics: When I had my surgery I was in recovery room for long time. He could not find me and went home without meeting me in person. He later phoned me to say everything went ok. They forgot to put catheter and I did not pee for long time. I screamed and used profanity to get attention at the hospital. The epidural was not turned on and I was in pain for long time. Nursed blamed me tempering with epidural and told monegal I shut it off.
5) Pain management: I was in 10/10 pain level during first night. The worst pain of my life. Nurses and caretaker does not know how to manage pain. Their respond will be ‘that is normal’. On my last two surgery my pain level never went more than 2/3.
6) Fibula bone: For monegal fibula bone is not important and ok to have non-union. Even mentioned he can take fibula bone put some place else for bone lengthening while I was in Spain. Fibula is sort of extra bone put in reserve. Such a stupid comment coming from surgeon. His action is not to do anything regarding my fibula non-union.
7) Forum: He is using forum to fish new patient and anyone raised flag he tries to shut him off either by himself or through his patient. He gets mad to his patient if anyone writes bad thing and continuously monitor forum thread. He probably spends more time in forum than any of us out here.
8) His Patients: most of his patients are good people by heart. We all come from same height neurosis industry and wanting to get taller. I feel forum is fraternity to support each other. This doctor is exploiting forum to his advantage. We need to stop him. I am still in contact with few of them. They need him to fix the issue, correct whatever complication and have to oblige whatever he asks them to write. I would not be surprised if few of his patients come to this thread and try to defend him.
9) Complication: Almost all of his patient has some complications. Many of them cannot walk without crutches. Complications includes but not limited to premature fitbone fracture, fitbone malfunctions, loose screws, serious nerve issue, misalignment and unkown. Unknown are other complications which patient does not know because they have not seen other LL specialist.
Cooper's nightmare with Dr. Monegal: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2454.msg51176#msg51176
Monegal Issues:
1) Dishonest: He did not disclose all the information and lied on patient count and his experience. He emailed he performed 600 bone segments. Come to find out I was third tibia patient. One of his patient told me in Spain everyone lies. His manipulates deliberately and black mailed his patient to write good things about him and defend him as often as necessary. You cannot trust this doctor and his patient specially from Spain!!!
2) Unethical: If you are not honest than you do not have ethics. Especially in this profession you want to go to doctor who respects patient rights, if something is not right than let the patient know and possible solution to fix. Just not to say everything will be ok. You need more time.
3) Poor Osteotomy: Most of his patient has issue with callous formation. Interesting part is all of the patient with few exceptions are lengthening less than 6cm. Still have poor bone formation. I have both fibula and tibia non-union and misalignment. Grafted both and I gained only 5.3com. I thought I did 6 but the x-ray show 5.3com.
4) Poor logistics: When I had my surgery I was in recovery room for long time. He could not find me and went home without meeting me in person. He later phoned me to say everything went ok. They forgot to put catheter and I did not pee for long time. I screamed and used profanity to get attention at the hospital. The epidural was not turned on and I was in pain for long time. Nursed blamed me tempering with epidural and told monegal I shut it off.
5) Pain management: I was in 10/10 pain level during first night. The worst pain of my life. Nurses and caretaker does not know how to manage pain. Their respond will be ‘that is normal’. On my last two surgery my pain level never went more than 2/3.
6) Fibula bone: For monegal fibula bone is not important and ok to have non-union. Even mentioned he can take fibula bone put some place else for bone lengthening while I was in Spain. Fibula is sort of extra bone put in reserve. Such a stupid comment coming from surgeon. His action is not to do anything regarding my fibula non-union.
7) Forum: He is using forum to fish new patient and anyone raised flag he tries to shut him off either by himself or through his patient. He gets mad to his patient if anyone writes bad thing and continuously monitor forum thread. He probably spends more time in forum than any of us out here.
8) His Patients: most of his patients are good people by heart. We all come from same height neurosis industry and wanting to get taller. I feel forum is fraternity to support each other. This doctor is exploiting forum to his advantage. We need to stop him. I am still in contact with few of them. They need him to fix the issue, correct whatever complication and have to oblige whatever he asks them to write. I would not be surprised if few of his patients come to this thread and try to defend him.
9) Complication: Almost all of his patient has some complications. Many of them cannot walk without crutches. Complications includes but not limited to premature fitbone fracture, fitbone malfunctions, loose screws, serious nerve issue, misalignment and unkown. Unknown are other complications which patient does not know because they have not seen other LL specialist.
Your not a fake account your just a dumb ass. Give me a call, I'm at tthe MICs. apt. 4.7. For some reason I don;t hear any ringing.
This is frankly disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself. Mods, please, ban this user.
As a Monegal patient, I appreciate him for his caring and dedication to his patients.
I find it disgusting that troll accounts are created to difame him without any proof (falsehoods that can even be exposed) . Posts like this should be deleted and the user banned.
Monegal has been on vacation in August and I was in July for the most part of the month at MIC and didn't meet any female patient. This story is completely made up.
Nice one, gave me a chuckle. I like it ;DThe Butcher From Barcelona
No Tiene Cirugía Con...
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Now on a serious side, this forum has gone to crap.
Tallernacho can be a patient but he LIES because Musicmaker was MICS and he says there weren't females at MICS in July.He said he didn't meet any female patients while there and it can very well be true. He never said there were no females patients at mics.
He says Monegal was on holiday in August but Neverland posted she visited him in August. Tallernacho LIES.Monegal was on holidays in August, however, he was able to meet Neverland. Why? Because even on holidays he took that day to meet his patients needs.
I should have mentioned in my first post that several of the patients I spoke with said that Dr. Monegal constantly monitors this forum in an obsessive way. They said Dr. Monegal threatens patients who say they are going to write about their complications and lack of quality care on the forum, while forcing patients to post positive information about him. Looking at all the posts from people who claim to be patients of Dr. Monegal, I think a lot of them are Dr. Monegal himself, and the way they go completely over the top in promoting him should be a huge red flag for everyone.Do Not Have Surgery With The Butcher From BarcelonaNo Tiene Cirugía Con El Carnicero De Barcelona
I don't know who is tallornacho, even so, let me troll the troll a bit...
He said he didn't meet any female patients while there and it can very well be true. He never said there were no females patients at mics.
Monegal was on holidays in August, however, he was able to meet Neverland. Why? Because even on holidays he took that day to meet his patients needs.
Suck it up troll.
It's wonderful you saw Monegal on the 14th
Monegal was supposed to remove my rod a while back and keeps telling me he is on vacation until September.
So nice to hear he saw YOU though
You mean fishing new patients and more money... He didn't pay attention to current patients like Crimsontide when they talked to him. Crimsontide offered to post screenshots. I trust him.Who the hell operates while on vacations? He took that day off vacations to meet his patients, not to do a major surgery. Get real dude.
A part from MM, there are no female patients or residents doing CLL (confirmed with MIC).
Only female visitor (potential patient/not patient) at MIC in the last year was the 'multiple account holder' #Neverland #Summerbreeze...#Longhairlady???
As Helloworld and others suggested, people with psychiatric issues should not be considered as potential patients, specially for cosmetic CLL.
Isn't it about time to stop this circus?Yes, I am getting tired of this crap, new people can get confused
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My sources don't know about those patients (male and female).
My conclusion is LONGHAIRLADY AND TALLERNACHO LIE.
I don't know who is tallornacho, even so, let me troll the troll a bit...
He said he didn't meet any female patients while there and it can very well be true. He never said there were no females patients at mics.
Monegal was on holidays in August, however, he was able to meet Neverland. Why? Because even on holidays he took that day to meet his patients needs.
Suck it up troll.
A life experience for Dr. Monegal; should he read posts form the forum as some suggest.
A group of investors I was a part of did this to prove that the unethical CEO of a small cap company was posting BS anonymously on Investment forums in hopes of driving the price of the companies stock up. BTW, he went to jail because the FBI and SEC got involved. The company went bankrupt and we got nil :-\
In any case, we took the following steps.
Message the forum moderator and see if they will cooperate with providing information to identify LonghairedGirl. I would request that they forensically preserve her posts and then remove them. If the moderator will not cooperate, contact Endurance International the owner of the IP / Data Center that hosts this forum,
RTechPhone: +1-213-536-4767
RTechEmail: slindsey75_athenix@endurance.com
They will likely respond and inform the administrative contact for this forum.
If nothing comes of that, get an Attorney to subpoena Athenix (Endurance International) for any information they might be able to provide as the IP block owner.
Athenix Inc.
523 W 6th St.
Los Angeles, CA 90014
Once you get the info, subponea the ISP of that LonghairedGirl used to post to provide information; they can possible even provide her identity if she was naïve enough. it may require another subpoena from the organization utilizing the transmitting IP.
An Attorney may take this case on contingency, once they determine LonghairedGirl has assets; since this is slam dunk on a defamation charge.
If the forum moderator is smart, they will take the this thread down themselves or at least remove LonghairedGirls defamatory posts so I would be sure to take lots of screen shots.
You disgusting long-haired scumbag! You're rotten from within. Why don't you post proofs? Because you haven't got any. Why do you keep posting Cooper's posts? Because you ran out of arguments. You're a worthless bag of crap. I hope you get everything you deserve.
Hi long hair,
I can't believe you have taken the time to write you essay type complain , your complains about monegal seems to be more of a personal problem , anyone can pick there is something wrong with you. Plus somehow u think you are related to the other troll account.
All the best to you poor devil
I'm convinced Patientprivacy and Uonlyliveonce are alt accounts of dr monegal himself and/or his patients, hence why they are so offended and have resorted to personal attacks like 'scumbag' and 'worthless bag of crap' and threatening users with lawsuits (which dr. monegal also did back when he was posting from his original account). Really classy, monegal & co.
It's kinda obvious with all these pro-monegal accounts with low post history coming out of nowhere and viciously defending him. These accounts are just as annoying as the troll accounts.
In my opinion Longhairgirl's story isn't related to the other troll account. Their modus operandi is different. I have talked to some Monegal patients and they think it's a fake coming from a person with a severe mental illness. I beg moderators to check Longhair's IP address and ban her, as she is mentally deranged. She should be banned straight away from here, as well as the clone accounts of the doctor.
Anyway, I must also play the devil's advocate and point out that you have never met Dr Monegal in person, and you have never met his patients. Your opinion about this situation is based in posts from a debate between anonymous users dealing with issues you don't know anything about. Thus, your opinion isn't relevant and could be detrimental for you and the doctor. Since you're a prospective patient without solid facts or evidence, you could be termed by people in this forum, not without reason, as a mere Monegal fanboy. Given the prevalent situation of anarchy that reigns in the forum regarding Monegal, this doesn't benefit anybody.