Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Doctors => Topic started by: Stadiometer on October 25, 2017, 10:29:36 PM
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Website: http://limbplastx.com/index.html
Articles co-authored with Dr. Paley:
http://www.paleyinstitute.org/media/file/Stature%20Lengthening%20using%20the%20PRECICE%20Intramedullary%20Nail.pdf
http://www.paleyinstitute.org/media/file/Limb%20Lengthening%20by%20Implantable%20Limb%20Lengthening%20Devices.pdf
How long did you train under Dr. Paley?
I have worked with him in total of 1.5 years during my fellowship and residency. We still communicate in regards to collaborations on various things.
How long have you been performing limb lengthening on your own?
2 years
Have you been performing cosmetic limb lengthening and medically indicated limb lengthening on your own in Las Vegas for the past two years?
Yes
How many limb lengthening procedures have you performed?
550 cases
Of that total how many were for cosmetic reasons?
Approximately 100 cases
How many cosmetic femur lengthenings?
Approximately 75 cases
How many cosmetic tibia/fibula lengthenings?
Approximately 25 cases
How many cases of:
Nerve Injury- None
Muscle Contractures- Resolved with ongoing PT
Non Union- None
Fibular Complications- None
PE-None
DVT- In our case series there was one patient with this who stopped anticoag too soon, treated without issues
Amputation- None (nor have I heard of any case of this)
Has a patient ever died from a complication under your care?
No
What is the cost of cosmetic limb lengthening?
Approximately $85,000
What is included in the $85,000?
Surgery, anesthesia, admission for 2 days at institute, Physical therapy/rehab/athletic training, follow-up visits and X-rays. Essentially everything but your stay in Las Vegas and oral medications that you might need to take.
Does insurance cover some of the cost?
It does not unfortunately, I am working with Nuvasive the company that owns the PRECICE technology about financing- but this may be over a year before this becomes a reality. We have relations with banks that are willing to work with patients to find other alternatives. We also have some interested parties who want to be involved in financial and social planning for patients and this maybe something we can arrange for you.
I am aware of a new PRECICE nail by NuVasive made of Cobalt Chrome which is expected to significantly increase weight bearing in patients during the lengthening and consolidation phases. When will this new PRECICE nail be available at your Limplastx Institute?
I have met with the company about designing this nail. Looking at the progression I would say earliest 12-18 months (maybe longer).
Are you involved in a different PRECICE nail development with NuVasive exclusively for cosmetic patients? If yes, can you expand on this new PRECICE nail development?
This is same as above, geared for all patients but certainly keep cosmetic patients in mind. It will be a different product with similar technology.
NuVasive is flying to Las Vegas for a dinner meeting tonight to discuss further technology which I am helping them design and the overall cosmetic market. In Las Vegas, we have built out a one of a kind institute solely focused on aesthetic height gain; The Limbplastx Institute. This will be the first of its kind in the world and offer a catered luxury experience solely focused on the Limbplastx ® procedure, our version of the procedure and experience.
We are currently updating our website, which is far from being done but should be up and running in a week or so. There is still some useful information on the procedure pages you might find helpful right now. We will be offering video consultations to talk face to face and this function should be ready to go through the website by next week.
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100 cosmetic patients in 2 years of practice? Gosh, I hope this doctor doesn't become Mahboubian 2.0
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Sounds great, love having more options. At this price though, I have to wonder: why not Dr. Paley instead?
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This guy is a scumbag if there ever was one. How deluded do you have to be to try and pass off like you came up with a term for cosmetic lengthening all by yourself? "Hi I'm Dr Kevin Debipusshad, and I operate in the field of Limbplastx". Lol, get real. Then you have that video of him saying he lengthened some co-worker 6 inches. This scumbag obviously has no qualms with ruining people.
Edited: removed sentence implying/suggesting threat of violence
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This guy is a scumbag if there ever was one. How deluded do you have to be to try and pass off like you came up with a term for cosmetic lengthening all by yourself? "Hi I'm Dr Kevin Debipusshad, and I operate in the field of Limbplastx". Lol, get real. Then you have that video of him saying he lengthened some co-worker 6 inches. This scumbag obviously has no qualms with ruining people. He deserves a kick to the head.
I was wondering why are you on a site regarding LL if you're not interested in the lengthening process,as it is written on your profile.Really curious
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This guy is a scumbag if there ever was one. How deluded do you have to be to try and pass off like you came up with a term for cosmetic lengthening all by yourself? "Hi I'm Dr Kevin Debipusshad, and I operate in the field of Limbplastx". Lol, get real. Then you have that video of him saying he lengthened some co-worker 6 inches. This scumbag obviously has no qualms with ruining people. He deserves a kick to the head.
Come on man!! Think before you type away and say someone is a "real scumbag". You don't know enough about this man to make such a claim. This doctor could be another valuable option for members on this board.
I have the same question as The Dreamer above ..... Are you lonely?
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As said before at that price why would you go to him and as big daddy said he looks like a scumbag money hungry. What is this limb plasty lol.
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As said before at that price why would you go to him and as big daddy said he looks like a scumbag money hungry. What is this limb plasty lol.
I don't know this doctor or anything about his patients, but how the heck does he "look like a money hungry scum bag" ? why tarnish his name without knowing enough. Because he claims he "coined" a term?
Nothing wrong with the videos. As we all should know, the amount someone can lengthen is case by case. So he lengthened someone a full 6", yes possible, and could've been perfectly fine for that patient.
True, at that price you save a little more ($20k), and use Paley. For me, I can afford Paley now but won't use him due to location and simple practicality. I'm planning on using Mahboubian, who is 40 minutes from me. I've personally met three of Dr. Ms patients who lengthened femurs and they are all perfectly fine. A few minor complications here or there, but it is part of the show.
With all due respect, think before you talk out of your .... So easy to type away.
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Figures a prospective patient of the most money hungry doctor in the USA says things like "you can lengthen 6 inches and be fine". Post a single case of that really being true.
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I don't know this doctor or anything about his patients, but how the heck does he "look like a money hungry scum bag" ? why tarnish his name without knowing enough. Because he claims he "coined" a term?
Nothing wrong with the videos. As we all should know, the amount someone can lengthen is case by case. So le lengthened someone a full 6", yes possible, and could've been perfectly fine for that patient.
True, at that price you save a little more ($20k), and use Paley. For me, I can afford Paley now but won't use him due to location and simple practicality. I'm planning on using Mahboubian, who is 40 minutes from me. I've personally met three of Dr. Ms patients who lengthened femurs and they are all perfectly fine. A few minor complications here or there, but it is part of the show.
With all due respect, think before you talk out of your .... So easy to type away.
I don't have to think about anything. He has two years doing limb lengthening on his own and has his own phrase as I've never heard anyone say that before. We know little about him so for the price he is charging it would be better to go to paley. I did not mention Mahoubian but he has more of a reputation and is cheaper and if he is that close then obviously that is other reason for you to go to him. But he has nothing to do with this other doctor. People are adults and can decided for themselves so there is nothing wrong with others expressing different opinions. When he talks about lengthening 6 inches he probably means by multiple surgerys because if not then it would be undeniable proof that he is money hungry.
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Figures a prospective patient of the most money hungry doctor in the USA says things like "you can lengthen 6 inches and be fine". Post a single case of that really being true.
Lol!!!! Come at me!
Yes Big Daddy.
Tibias and Femurs. Separately. Can you not?
Yes or No? Case by case.
Money hungry. How dare these doctors charge for their specialized service?!!
JA!!!
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Too pricey, for this price it's better to go to Paley for sure. I believe that Paley accepts $85k for a femur surgery in cash upfront.
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I have no problem with Dr. Debiparshad coining new words, especially since he's trying to make limb lengthening a more accepted cosmetic procedure (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIp-4VKdQtU&feature=youtu.be&t=65), much like rhinoplasty or mammaplasty. The similarity in name is not a coincidence; it's to make it sound like familiar procedures that are no longer taboo.
Let's not forget that new terms come and go as needs arise, like how Dr. Paley coined height neurosis.
I don't condone ad hominem attacks on someone you've never even met; we don't even have diaries to scrutinize. To say that he's "money hungry" as a cosmetic surgeon seems silly; it is a completely elective procedure for most of us on this forum. It is a luxury, not a right, to get CLL.
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I have no problem with Dr. Debiparshad coining new words, especially since he's trying to make limb lengthening a more accepted cosmetic procedure (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIp-4VKdQtU&feature=youtu.be&t=65), much like rhinoplasty or mammaplasty. The similarity in name is not a coincidence; it's to make it sound like familiar procedures that are no longer taboo.
Let's not forget that new terms come and go as needs arise, like how Dr. Paley coined height neurosis.
I don't condone ad hominem attacks on someone you've never even met; we don't even have diaries to scrutinize. To say that he's "money hungry" as a cosmetic surgeon seems silly; it is a completely elective procedure for most of us on this forum. It is a luxury, not a right, to get CLL.
Do you honestly think that limb lengthening will ever be viewed as the same light as rhinoplasty to the general public? So his "efforts" if genuine will not mean anything.
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I have no problem with Dr. Debiparshad coining new words, especially since he's trying to make limb lengthening a more accepted cosmetic procedure (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIp-4VKdQtU&feature=youtu.be&t=65), much like rhinoplasty or mammaplasty. The similarity in name is not a coincidence; it's to make it sound like familiar procedures that are no longer taboo.
Let's not forget that new terms come and go as needs arise, like how Dr. Paley coined height neurosis.
I don't condone ad hominem attacks on someone you've never even met; we don't even have diaries to scrutinize. To say that he's "money hungry" as a cosmetic surgeon seems silly; it is a completely elective procedure for most of us on this forum. It is a luxury, not a right, to get CLL.
Thank you Android. Well said !!
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Do you honestly think that limb lengthening will ever be viewed as the same light as rhinoplasty to the general public? So his "efforts" if genuine will not mean anything.
Same light? Who knows. At least on the same stage, sure.
I'm half Japanese, and it's interesting just how detached they are from any form of cosmetic anything. For instance, they've finally started accepting braces for teeth; not long ago it was seen as extreme or vain. There's still resistance, but it's gaining traction due to celebrities getting their teeth fixed to look good on high definition programming.
The point I'm making is that with exposure, the initial shock goes away. It takes time to shed taboo. For instance, hair transplants are slowly becoming less taboo, with celebrities coming out about their procedures on social media. Yes, CLL is much more extreme, but revolutionary products like PRECISE have made it more palatable (and therefore marketable), especially in comparison to relatively barbaric external frames.
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A goal to make cosmetic limb lengthening a more accepted cosmetic procedure is something a doctor with no moral scrupals would do because there is absolutely no way around the fact that you are permanently reducing a person's basic functions just for the sake of vanity, something that no other cosmetic procedures do. As a doctor he is well aware of the permanent complications and drawbacks, some that can and some that WILL take place. The fact that he is marketing the cosmetic aspect of this so heavily when this is only necessary for injuries or discrepancies in limb length makes this doctor a total ahole, and that's putting it lightly.
And anyone who thinks more marketing will make this surgery more acceptable is deluded. It just increases the amount of people who will know what you did and think of you as an insecure ignoramus.
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So which came first, the chicken or the egg? Is the doctor creating the demand, or did the demand create the doctor? I'd say the latter.
It's about risk versus reward. We do a lot of things that are not exactly good for us, like drinking or smoking. We're marketed to do it, society encourages or discourages us, and we manage it together. The doctors are filling a need, and it's completely optional to do so. This forum and its ilk are very, very niche. Those that consider these surgeries aren't getting it at a drive thru without a second though, but many do a lot of homework beforehand before making the commitment, weighing both risk and reward.
Hard to believe you think that marketing doesn't familiarize and desensitize a person to an idea, but to each their own.
This thread has been derailed, we're no longer talking about the doctor. If any one else would like to continue this discussion, please do so elsewhere.
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So which came first, the chicken or the egg? Is the doctor creating the demand, or did the demand create the doctor? I'd say the latter.
It's about risk versus reward. We do a lot of things that are not exactly good for us, like drinking or smoking. We're marketed to do it, society encourages or discourages us, and we manage it together. The doctors are filling a need, and it's completely optional to do so. This forum and its ilk are very, very niche. Those that consider these surgeries aren't getting it at a drive thru without a second though, but many do a lot of homework beforehand before making the commitment, weighing both risk and reward.
Hard to believe you think that marketing doesn't familiarize and desensitize a person to an idea, but to each their own.
This thread has been derailed, we're no longer talking about the doctor. If any one else would like to continue this discussion, please do so elsewhere.
Yes there is a market, a small one in comparison to other cosmetic procedures. And did you compare the surgery to drinking and smoking? It's not the same thing as most people would not bat a eye lash if they knew you drank or smoked. Where as if they knew you broke your bones to get taller they would question your mental state. And lol no marketing will disensitize this niche surgery.
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Price is kind of steep but if he can secure financing options then it would really change things. Imagine getting Precice 2 for 20,000$ down maybe even 0% interesting for 1 year (time for recovery).
It would probably be better than a regular private loan since it would be a specific Limb lengthening loan
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I remember Dr Parihar telling me that you should go to orthopedic surgeons who are at the top of the pyramid in the Ilizarov specialty for cosmetic limb lengthening, simply because you want someone who has seen and treated it all, what with all that can go wrong in this procedure. Because of that, it's more than a little off putting to me when a doctor decides to make the cosmetic focus of limb lengthening his primary business, especially when he's been doing this on his own for only 2 years. It doesn't seem like this doctor would ever refuse a prospective patient who had the money, and part of a surgeon's skill is knowing when not to operate on someone. Personally, I'd feel a lot better going to someone who primarily treats injuries and deformities, like Paley or Rozbruch.
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I remember Dr Parihar telling me that you should go to orthopedic surgeons who are at the top of the pyramid in the Ilizarov specialty for cosmetic limb lengthening, simply because you want someone who has seen and treated it all, what with all that can go wrong in this procedure. Because of that, it's more than a little off putting to me when a doctor decides to make the cosmetic focus of limb lengthening his primary business, especially when he's been doing this on his own for only 2 years. It doesn't seem like this doctor would ever refuse a prospective patient who had the money, and part of a surgeon's skill is knowing when not to operate on someone. Personally, I'd feel a lot better going to someone who primarily treats injuries and deformities, like Paley or Rozbruch.
Agreed.
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WTF is with the mass hysteria over this doctor? Didn't any of you morons take math class in elementary school? That's obviously a rhetorical question on this thread...
The guy said he's done 550 cases of lengthening. Approximately 100 for cosmetic.
Now, for some of you this is where the math gets difficult, try real hard to follow along. First, wipe the drool off your chin. Ok, good. Brace yourself, here we go.
Pull out that space machine brought to us by the aliens. It's called a calculator. Type 100, then press the division sign, then type 550, then press the equal sign. You should get 0.18 repeating. Write that down. Now take your pencil and move the decimal over two spaces to the right. It will look like this 018. For the grand finale put a percentage symbol at the end. It will look like this 18%. Yay! You did it, congratulations! You are all very SPECIAL!
18% of his patients are cosmetic, or to put it another way. 82% of his patients are being treated for medical reasons.
According to the posters on this thread whose combined IQ can barely reach today's temperature in Las Vegas, he only does cosmetic surgery, he's money grubbing, he's a disgrace to the profession, blah blah blah...
Lucky for all of you that posted this garbage, height can be increased. Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid!
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WTF is with the mass hysteria over this doctor? Didn't any of you morons take math class in elementary school? That's obviously a rhetorical question on this thread...
The guy said he's done 550 cases of lengthening. Approximately 100 for cosmetic.
Now, for some of you this is where the math gets difficult, try real hard to follow along. First, wipe the drool off your chin. Ok, good. Brace yourself, here we go.
Pull out that space machine brought to us by the aliens. It's called a calculator. Type 100, then press the division sign, then type 550, then press the equal sign. You should get 0.18 repeating. Write that down. Now take your pencil and move the decimal over two spaces to the right. It will look like this 018. For the grand finale put a percentage symbol at the end. It will look like this 18%. Yay! You did it, congratulations! You are all very SPECIAL!
18% of his patients are cosmetic, or to put it another way. 82% of his patients are being treated for medical reasons.
According to the posters on this thread whose combined IQ can barely reach today's temperature in Las Vegas, he only does cosmetic surgery, he's money grubbing, he's a disgrace to the profession, blah blah blah...
Lucky for all of you that posted this garbage, height can be increased. Unfortunately, you can't fix stupid!
are you a shill? lol
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18% is a comparatively large chunk compared to other doctors, and there's no doubt the cosmetic aspect is something he's focused on increasing, otherwise why make a name for it (Limbplastx) and a series of videos marketing it specifically? It's not out of the goodness of his heart, it's because there's a market he wants to tap into. That 18% will become higher and his non-cosmetic percentage will drop since there's only so many surgeries one man can perform.
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It's not out of the goodness of his heart, it's because there's a market he wants to tap into.
Greedy and unskilled, we've seen plenty of. But if Dr. Debiparshad (or any doctor) is skilled and has good bedside manners, I actually don't mind as long as I get results. But of course, there are comparable doctors that also have an altruistic glimmer in their heart, and they'd get my vote. I don't think most care as long as their needs are taken care of.
I also wonder why his strategy is such a bad idea as well, since (admittedly less invasive) cosmetic procedures have transitioned from obscurity to becoming the main draw of a practice. A lot of it had to do with marketing, using less scary and/or memorable names for procedures. The influx of money into this niche will bring in more competition and innovation. Maybe in 15 years we'll see billboards for "leg jobs."
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Greedy and unskilled, we've seen plenty of. But if Dr. Debiparshad (or any doctor) is skilled and has good bedside manners, I actually don't mind as long as I get results. But of course, there are comparable doctors that also have an altruistic glimmer in their heart, and they'd get my vote. I don't think most care as long as their needs are taken care of.
I also wonder why his strategy is such a bad idea as well, since (admittedly less invasive) cosmetic procedures have transitioned from obscurity to becoming the main draw of a practice. A lot of it had to do with marketing, using less scary and/or memorable names for procedures. The influx of money into this niche will bring in more competition and innovation. Maybe in 15 years we'll see billboards for "leg jobs."
I don't necessarily think there's a right or wrong way to look at it, but I think it's actually more beneficial for this surgery to be harder to achieve than easier, financially. By making CLL easier to achieve, the amount of people who regret it will climb exponentially, whereas if it remains something that most people have to work up to financially, the more time they have to research, make smart decisions, and really decide if it's something they want to commit to. The doctors who promote more of the cosmetic aspect of this surgery or have assembly line patients seem to be the ones who downplay the permanent drawbacks that this leads you with, like diminished strength, stamina, balance, chronic pains, etc, and that's why there are many who wouldn't have had the procedure if given a second chance. Considering we still don't have any data on the long term affects of CLL patients years down the line, it's probably not a good idea to market this surgery to as many people as possible. Who knows, a direct correlation between CLL and muscle degeneration or osteoarthritis could be proven later. So when this doctor says he hopes CLL becomes a "trend" later, that's a very worrying statement, imo.
Also, in the video of "How Much Height or Length Can a Person Gain With Limb Lengthening?", he decides to only bring up a situation of someone with dwarfism and says there's theoretically no limit. Sure that's true in their case, but not so for people who don't have that condition, people who he's marketing this procedure to. So why would he not be up front and say something like "2 inches in tibiae and 3 in femurs max, between two surgeries." Is he worried that people will decide it's not worth it for just that amount? Would he even inform the prospective patient not to go over those lengths, or would he let them push to 13 cm on tibiae like Dr Salameh did for a patient?
I mean anyone can disagree with me, but I just don't like the way this guy markets this.
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Very good points. Luckily the procedure is quite cost-prohibitive, so at least for the moment we won't have many cases with impulsive patients. Hopefully the severity and frequency of complications lower as methods and technique improve over the years.
The doctor does indeed cherry pick his example, claiming a six inch gain on a colleague. I don't doubt him, but more detail about the patient like starting height would be helpful. A disclaimer that it's an exceptional result wouldn't hurt either. The disregard for recommended maximums is definitely negligent.
Many of us here have become desensitized by the surgery videos, but I'm sure that it'll freak most people out. Honestly, rhinoplasty videos freaked me out too (former girlfriend wanted to do it, got curious), but I guess the dream that's being sold with simple before and after photos are enough for many to pull the trigger. The exceptionally long, grueling process of CLL is definitely not exposed in these videos, and its omission can be considered misleading for sure.
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How any of you don't walk into on coming traffic on the highway everyday is a miracle given your lack of intelligence. If you want the best service, the best results, at the best price, then more competition is the answer, not less. Competition will drive down prices as customers shop for the best deal, competition will produce the best results as that is what is demanded by paying customers, doctors who don't provide the service or results that customers demand will be out of business. Good riddance...
What this really sounds like to me is short guys pissed off that 5'9-5'10 guys are now getting limb lengthening to be 6'0+ cause the technology is so much better than it was just a few years ago. Too bad b*tches! When PRECICE 3 cobalt chrome comes out you're totally f*cked!
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How any of you don't walk into on coming traffic on the highway everyday is a miracle given your lack of intelligence. If you want the best service, the best results, at the best price, then more competition is the answer, not less. Competition will drive down prices as customers shop for the best deal, competition will produce the best results as that is what is demanded by paying customers, doctors who don't provide the service or results that customers demand will be out of business. Good riddance...
What this really sounds like to me is short guys pissed off that 5'9-5'10 guys are now getting limb lengthening to be 6'0+ cause the technology is so much better than it was just a few years ago. Too bad b*tches! When PRECICE 3 cobalt chrome comes out you're totally f*cked!
It doesnt work that way in this case. There is a very small amount of Ilizarov specialists because of the extra years of specialty training it takes and the amount of qualified specialists would never keep up to the demand. Even now, when CLL is still considered obscure, there are very few doctors who have a good track record doing this for cosmetic reasons. Trying to make CLL a trend would have more unqualified docs trying to offer the service and result in more people having terrible complications. That's exactly what happened in China, and due to the amount of people getting jacked up, the procedure was banned in most facilities except for a select few that had to get special permission from the govt, and look at how high the costs are now compared to before. The Precice technology doesn't solve most of the problems that come with distraction. Internal is more comfortable and leads to less scarring, but it still doesn't address problems with distraction limit, tight joints, chronic bone pains due to the initial break, bone infection, etc.
The guys who are "fked" are the ones who get duped by videos like these acting like the procedure is 99% safe because they are ignorant about what can go wrong and feel safe hearing words like "technology" and "comfortable".
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It doesnt work that way in this case. There is a very small amount of Ilizarov specialists because of the extra years of specialty training it takes and the amount of qualified specialists would never keep up to the demand. Even now, when CLL is still considered obscure, there are very few doctors who have a good track record doing this for cosmetic reasons. Trying to make CLL a trend would have more unqualified docs trying to offer the service and result in more people having terrible complications. That's exactly what happened in China, and due to the amount of people getting jacked up, the procedure was banned in most facilities except for a select few that had to get special permission from the govt, and look at how high the costs are now compared to before. The Precice technology doesn't solve most of the problems that come with distraction. Internal is more comfortable and leads to less scarring, but it still doesn't address problems with distraction limit, tight joints, chronic bone pains due to the initial break, bone infection, etc.
The guys who are "fked" are the ones who get duped by videos like these acting like the procedure is 99% safe because they are ignorant about what can go wrong and feel safe hearing words like "technology" and "comfortable".
Yes it does work that way. I'm not talking about people who go to third world sh*t holes like India China and Russia to have their legs in cages for months at a time. I'm talking about people who want to have their surgery here in the good old U.S.A. using the latest technology with highly trained doctors. The same doctors who have to worry about losing their business if they don't provide you the service and results you demand or career ending lawsuits if they f*ck you up...
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Link: http://limbplastx.com/costs.html
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Stay away from this doctor in Las Vegas. He is unethical.
If you want more detailed information, and I have lots, private message me.
Do yourself a favor and ask his former senior partner, if he is as good as he claims with spinal procedures.
All of you talk as if you know this surgeon closely and don’t listen to those who have witnessed him work personally. If someone comes on a forum like this, it isn’t to harm or hurt you, it is to watch out for you and help.
Dr. Debiparshad is not the doctor you want to have doing these procedures. On both a clinical level or a cost friendly level for patients. Don’t make yourself an advocate for this surgeon. Or, if you think you are, please tell this group exactly how many cases Dr. Debiparshad has done in Las Vegas since he’s been there? Either normal LL or cosmetic? I know the answer....do you? It’s zero. Zero cases in three years there. There are other surgeons that have used Precice there in those three years, he can’t even get patients for the regular LL cases.
This is where you’re wrong. I have close and solid information about this surgeon. Can you shownthat he has not done a LL procedure since arriving in Vegas 3 plus years ago? Oh, you can’t dispute that? Why? Because it’s absolutely true.
As far as posting transcripts of recorded meetings with this person due to legal issues is far from hard to believe. If you choose not to believe it, go get your procedure done. Also, ask about the cost of the second procedure to get your nail removed. Is that not mentioned in that first $68,000 cost? Hidden fees... yup.
The guy is unethical and there is plenty of proof. It will come out very soon.
LLPatientAdvocate-
I'm not a direct advocate for Dr. Debiparshad. However, to any rational observer his paper credentials are outstanding and worth strong consideration for surgery. Medical school and orthopedic residency at two of the best medical schools in Canada (McGill & McMaster). Fellowship trained at the Paley Institute and a spinal fellowship at Harvard. Two published papers co-authored with Dr. Paley.
If you possess specific information that shows Dr. Debiparshad to be an unethical or dangerous surgeon I'd be very interested to see what you have. Thus far your biggest claim to prove he is unethical is that he doesn't list nail removal fees and purposely keeps them hidden. When in fact his website clearly says nail removal fees are not included. I posted that exact information in this thread with a screenshot from his website.
You're banging the "avoid this doctor" drums pretty loudly. if your objective as you stated is to watch out for and help others, you really should produce solid evidence before your signal turns into nothing but noise.
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LLPatientAdvocate-
I'm not a direct advocate for Dr. Debiparshad. However, to any rational observer his paper credentials are outstanding and worth strong consideration for surgery. Medical school and orthopedic residency at two of the best medical schools in Canada (McGill & McMaster). Fellowship trained at the Paley Institute and a spinal fellowship at Harvard. Two published papers co-authored with Dr. Paley.
If you possess specific information that shows Dr. Debiparshad to be an unethical or dangerous surgeon I'd be very interested to see what you have. Thus far your biggest claim to prove he is unethical is that he doesn't list nail removal fees and purposely keeps them hidden. When in fact his website clearly says nail removal fees are not included. I posted that exact information in this thread with a screenshot from his website.
You're banging the "avoid this doctor" drums pretty loudly. if your objective as you stated is to watch out for and help others, you really should produce solid evidence before your signal turns into nothing but noise.
Very well put Stadiometer, Esq !
It is so easy to tarnish someone's reputation unfairly and without solid basis.
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Hear, hear. We're willing to listen if we can trust the source.
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LLPatientAdvocate-
I'm not a direct advocate for Dr. Debiparshad. However, to any rational observer his paper credentials are outstanding and worth strong consideration for surgery. Medical school and orthopedic residency at two of the best medical schools in Canada (McGill & McMaster). Fellowship trained at the Paley Institute and a spinal fellowship at Harvard. Two published papers co-authored with Dr. Paley.
If you possess specific information that shows Dr. Debiparshad to be an unethical or dangerous surgeon I'd be very interested to see what you have. Thus far your biggest claim to prove he is unethical is that he doesn't list nail removal fees and purposely keeps them hidden. When in fact his website clearly says nail removal fees are not included. I posted that exact information in this thread with a screenshot from his website.
You're banging the "avoid this doctor" drums pretty loudly. if your objective as you stated is to watch out for and help others, you really should produce solid evidence before your signal turns into nothing but noise.
Stadiometer Esq.
If you are truly an “Esq” than you know that the wheels of the legal system slowly turn. And, because evidence used in legal actions can not be disclosed prior to cases being heard.
With that said, you should also know that statement like this should not and could not be made without repercussion. I have zero fear and will continue to beat the drum, even if you call it noise.
Why have other surgeons in Las Vegas done more LL cases than this surgeon at this point? Why have surgeons that have been in Vegas less time and NO real prior experience with LL and using Precice have done more cases? Why haven’t these cases been referred to this Uber educated and ultra experienced LL surgeon?
If someone close to the situation on the ground is sending warning signals, I certainly would take second and third looks.
This has nothing to do with hidden charges and cost of procedures. This has to do with much more than those peripheral items. Would you want an anesthesiologist that you knew had a shady ethical background putting you under? Think about it... if there are character questions and where there is smoke...
The statements made are factual. Take the risk and when things shake out down the road, I will be here and the one that says “I told you so!”
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Stadiometer seems to me to be a willing advertiser of this doctor. Why?
Many numbers have been thrown out about this doctors case numbers and a paper that was done some years ago.
Let’s look at this clinically, alone first. After leaving Dror’s Fellowship and arriving in Las Vegas, just how many LL cases, TOTAL, has he done? Then, let’s divide that up and then tell me how many cosmetic cases he has done.
Do you want me to make the math easy for you? The answer to both is ZERO.
After being in Las Vegas for three years, he has performed exactly ZERO LL procedures in the entire city or region.
However, there have been cases done by other surgeons in Las Vegas. These surgeons are skilled in circular fixation methods traditionally, like Debiparshad was also trained.
Why hasn’t a single patient been referred to him for treatment? Why hasn’t he done a single LL implant?
If I am wrong, I will listen to anyone, this is where you try to prove I’m wrong Stadiometer....
Good luck
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LLPatientAdvocate, I still wonder why you think we're promoting this doctor. Ironically you're the one that keeps bumping this relatively inactive thread.
Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the concept of "innocent until proven guilty." We've yet to be presented with anything more than opinion and hearsay.
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I am looking into him and have sent an email. I will contact by phone soon as well to see when they're receiving STRYDE if not already. I will see what he does for insurance if any and what he has to say for himself when I ask questions.
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This guy is a scumbag if there ever was one. How deluded do you have to be to try and pass off like you came up with a term for cosmetic lengthening all by yourself? "Hi I'm Dr Kevin Debipusshad, and I operate in the field of Limbplastx". Lol, get real. Then you have that video of him saying he lengthened some co-worker 6 inches. This scumbag obviously has no qualms with ruining people.
Edited: removed sentence implying/suggesting threat of violence
This guy is definitely up there with some of the biggest losers i've ever seen on any forum. Between the gay name, picture, saying "come at me" while being a redditor, bragging about being 5'11" as a white Swede, what a joke this guy was lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls73AZz4SFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCokNFUH7Qo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIp-4VKdQtU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqoD3LfS3Xk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGvi8Qy-g4M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZiZQKLxAdM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpzB7K9_-HQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9ajY-tQnWQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is16r4xPkjw
The videos are not working anymore.
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:P He's even already been running a branch institution in Japan on purpose
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What do you mean, so he operates in las vegas and in japan ? Oh what else!
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What do you mean, so he operates in las vegas and in japan ? Oh what else!
He only operates in Las Vegas but has patients from all over the world.
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Hello, there is an older thread from this year saying Dr. D's prices for STRYDE/femurs are approx $85k. Per his website, the price is $75k and has been this since earlier 2019. There has been no sale or discounted prices. Am I missing something? There are optional surgeries for additional costs such as $3k for iliotibial band release, which does seem necessary anyway, so would bring the price up to $78k. I'm not sure if other listed options such as biceps tendon lengthening ($3k) and gastro soleus recession ($4k) are also needed? If there is anyone out there who has done consultation or STRYDE/femurs with Dr. Debiparshad this year, can you let me know if you needed any additional surgeries and what your pricing was? Much appreciated. Already had good consultation with Dr. M in LA, great pricing but his office staff are the worst.
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Both Dr. Paley and Rozbruch are certified by American Board of Orthopaedic Surgery. I could not find Dr. Dr. Kevin Debiparshad certification on www.abos.org. At the same time, there are only couple of journals from Dr.Debiparshad's patients on this forum. I would like to consider him because of his location but he seems inexperienced next to Dr. Paley and Rozbruch. He is not cheap either.
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does any past patient of dr D know his height? he repeatedly claims he is 5 foot 9 but its very clear he is only 5 foot 6.
(https://i.imgur.com/XFFvl1cl.png)
listen to this podcast witt this doctor https://www.spreaker.com/user/kfiam640/seg5seg6-limb-lengthening
at 11 minute 59 they ask "how tall are you?" to Dr D. Dr D replies 5'9 and a half.
how is this possible?
theres nothing wrong with a short doctor doing cosmetic limb lengthening.
but why market the surgery as minimally invasive?
here is one of their marketing posts
(https://i.imgur.com/21ptY8xm.jpg)
Research has shown that shorter guys about 5'6’” to 5’7” are at a disadvantage across a variety of things from dating to advancements in their career. The deck is in many cases is stacked against when guys aren’t stacked to a certain height."
isnt it strange that a doctor who is himself short, lies about his height, markets the surgery as minimally invasive and makes cheap adverts like these? if its all that simple why doesnt he get it done himself?
think like this: imagine a flat chested lady breast implant surgeon who runs ads like "women with less than 34D will find it difficult to date and suffer from lack of self confidence" but she is herself 32B. and when asked in an interview she lies "I am about 34DD". ;D This is like that.
he might be well trained but he seems to not be genuine.
of course I hope patients can answer this better.
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Both Dr. Paley and Rozbruch are certified by American Board of Orthopaedic Surgery. I could not find Dr. Dr. Kevin Debiparshad certification on www.abos.org. At the same time, there are only couple of journals from Dr.Debiparshad's patients on this forum. I would like to consider him because of his location but he seems inexperienced next to Dr. Paley and Rozbruch. He is not cheap either.
In case anyone is looking at this old thread I wanted to point out that he is certified now: https://www.abos.org/portal/certsearchpage.aspx?lastname=Debiparshad
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Here is Doctor Debiparshad with his patient on a tv program. Got to say this is the first I have seen of a male patient going on TV willingly with his doctor to talk about the process.
https://youtu.be/IHkmLfBwYjI
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A true merchant and the worse kind of doctor to do LL with.
And also he makes much harder to keep LL completely confidential as most of us really want, after so much advertising on tv and internet pages.
That doctor is a disgrace for LL and the same happens with all that morons who did LL and go on tv thinking that they are some kind of stars while in reality the people really think of them like madmen.
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A true merchant and the worse kind of doctor to do LL with.
And also he makes much harder to keep LL completely confidential as most of us really want, after so much advertising on tv and internet pages.
That doctor is a disgrace for LL and the same happens with all that morons who did LL and go on tv thinking that they are some kind of stars while in reality the people really think of them like madmen.
what have you got against Dr Kevn Debiparshad?
he is doing good work in creating demand which will lower prices and also prove safety. then even poor people can get this. think about people in third world countries. should they live unhappily because they cant afford this? funny enough people in thrid world countries are shorter than average. so they need it more but they cant even afford these nails and thus go to random docs in their countries.
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what have you got against Dr Kevn Debiparshad?
he is doing good work in creating demand which will lower prices and also prove safety. then even poor people can get this. think about people in third world countries. should they live unhappily because they cant afford this? funny enough people in thrid world countries are shorter than average. so they need it more but they cant even afford these nails and thus go to random docs in their countries.
The more people who seek something and want it without the supply keeping up will cause prices to go up, not down. There are not enough qualified doctors with the experience under their belt to keep up with a demand in this procedure if it were to get popular, so the doctors who can do it will start charging more.
Also people in a truly 3rd world situation are not concerned with height and have no interest in this. They are concerned with having food and shelter, not being 5 cm taller.
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what have you got against Dr Kevn Debiparshad?
he is doing good work in creating demand which will lower prices and also prove safety. then even poor people can get this. think about people in third world countries. should they live unhappily because they cant afford this? funny enough people in thrid world countries are shorter than average. so they need it more but they cant even afford these nails and thus go to random docs in their countries.
With more demand prices go even higher, you are completely wrong.
And I wrote exacly why I am against that money hungry merchant who advertises everywhere LL to get a few patients more as in usa there are respectable doctors like Paley and Rozbruch who don't advertise LL even on unilad.
Everything else about a usa merchant that will help prices of LL go down by advertising it everywhere and asking 80k+ dollars for it and will let poor people.doing it is joke.
Poor people have more important things to care instead of height and also, you can do LL with 5-5k dollars or less on third world countries.
Clearly that merchant makes only harm to veterans and future llers.
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increase demand = more docs offering it (see now there are so many new ones already: marie, giotikas, buldu, assayag, javier, parihar, mehta, kohne, nic gay, etc )
more docs offering = competitive pricing and more volume of surgeries
more volume of surgeries = more interest in new nails and scaling up new nail production
more interest in new nails and scaling up production = cheaper prices
it wont happen in one day, but it will slowly happen.
first step is to get public attention.
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does any past patient of dr D know his height? he repeatedly claims he is 5 foot 9 but its very clear he is only 5 foot 6.
(https://i.imgur.com/XFFvl1cl.png)
listen to this podcast witt this doctor https://www.spreaker.com/user/kfiam640/seg5seg6-limb-lengthening
at 11 minute 59 they ask "how tall are you?" to Dr D. Dr D replies 5'9 and a half.
how is this possible?
theres nothing wrong with a short doctor doing cosmetic limb lengthening.
but why market the surgery as minimally invasive?
here is one of their marketing posts
(https://i.imgur.com/21ptY8xm.jpg)
isnt it strange that a doctor who is himself short, lies about his height, markets the surgery as minimally invasive and makes cheap adverts like these? if its all that simple why doesnt he get it done himself?
think like this: imagine a flat chested lady breast implant surgeon who runs ads like "women with less than 34D will find it difficult to date and suffer from lack of self confidence" but she is herself 32B. and when asked in an interview she lies "I am about 34DD". ;D This is like that.
he might be well trained but he seems to not be genuine.
of course I hope patients can answer this better.
To answer the question about Dr. D's height, I was measured around 174.5 on that chart in the picture (I usually measure around 173.5). When I met Dr D, I was barefoot from being measured and he was wearing dress shoes. He seemed a little taller than me, so I would guess he is around 5"8.5 or 5"9. I definitely don't think he is under 5"7.
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them shoes might have had lifts in them. No doubt hes a short dude. I have sincerely wondered why he doesnt do this procedure for himself and get taller. He knows this procedure inside out, knows how safe it is and how minimally invasive it is. There ain't nothing like a surgeon leading by example and showing skin in the game. Same way doctors taking covid vaccine gives enormous faith among us common plebs, him doing leg length surgery on himself would give us enormous faith in leg length surgery.
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them shoes might have had lifts in them. No doubt hes a short dude. I have sincerely wondered why he doesnt do this procedure for himself and get taller. He knows this procedure inside out, knows how safe it is and how minimally invasive it is. There ain't nothing like a surgeon leading by example and showing skin in the game. Same way doctors taking covid vaccine gives enormous faith among us common plebs, him doing leg length surgery on himself would give us enormous faith in leg length surgery.
I’d put him at at least 5’8.5”, so claiming 5’9.5” isn’t that strange. I had just measured at 173.5cm barefoot on the stadiometer, and I was about the same height or a tiny bit taller than him when we were both in shoes. He had thinner soles than me (I was in Adidas boosts.)
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I’d put him at at least 5’8.5”, so claiming 5’9.5” isn’t that strange. I had just measured at 173.5cm barefoot on the stadiometer, and I was about the same height or a tiny bit taller than him when we were both in shoes. He had thinner soles than me (I was in Adidas boosts.)
what about that photo above then? is it the camera angle? maybe the dude who took the photo took it from way high up.
he generally looks short from some of his videos also.
if hes truly 5'8 and above then he would be somewhat vindicated for not having done the procedure for himself.
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You would think that because he did a residency with Doctor Dror Paley, Doctor Kevin Debiparshad would not feel the need to lie about his experience after starting his limbplastx center.. But Doctor Paley himself called out Debiparshad for lying about his patient numbers and warning people about doctors like him. It is telling that he upset Doctor Paley so much that he did not care about calling his former resident a liar.
(Starts at 40:23 in video)
https://youtu.be/mC6ws6lCslM
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Honestly I think many of these doctors internalize the feeling of growing taller through watching their patients grow.
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increase demand = more docs offering it (see now there are so many new ones already: marie, giotikas, buldu, assayag, javier, parihar, mehta, kohne, nic gay, etc )
more docs offering = competitive pricing and more volume of surgeries
more volume of surgeries = more interest in new nails and scaling up new nail production
more interest in new nails and scaling up production = cheaper prices
it wont happen in one day, but it will slowly happen.
first step is to get public attention.
More people wanting something, the more expensive it gets.
Period.
And maybe you want public attention. Me and the vast majority of LLers want to keep it as secret as possible. And public attention won't let new LL'ers at least keep it confidential. And for me if my LL was known to anyone, especially women, it would have been almost useless.
So speak about yourself. Neither you nor that merchant doctor represent what the average LLer wants.
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Thank-you for starting this topic! Dr. Paley literally told me in person at a consult that he was not honest about his numbers.
And then I see many people say he is a great doctor...which I am not discrediting. All I would like to know is why he lied about this and continues to lie repeatedly? It's OKAY to admit that you don't have a lot of cases yet, I mean come on he is a young surgeon. But once he starts lying about it is where he loses all credibility and essentially shows zero character or personal integrity.
If he is telling the truth, then I would take back these statements. But it really seems like he isn't...
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More people wanting something, the more expensive it gets.
Period.
And maybe you want public attention. Me and the vast majority of LLers want to keep it as secret as possible. And public attention won't let new LL'ers at least keep it confidential. And for me if my LL was known to anyone, especially women, it would have been almost useless.
So speak about yourself. Neither you nor that merchant doctor represent what the average LLer wants.
Agree with you 110% on this.
We don't want attention. It does nothing for us. Those that have zero problems disclosing their surgery to everyone around them including random people online are generally not well-adapted socially. And I mean this in the strictly clinical sense. That is to say, it is not currently socially acceptable to get this extreme surgery and shame is a common convention used for many social complexes.
In other words, if most of society says you are super weird--you probably are and should just hide that thing. At least, if you want to succeed in that given social hierarchy.
And I mean come on...no one does this surgery to be taller in their house alone. They do it to be taller in RELATION to others. AKA don't say "I don't care about what society thinks" because right there you're already full of it.
P.S. when I say "you" I am not talking to anyone specifically. 8)
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I never stopped writing that any merchant doctor is not to be trusted and a very bad choice for LL.
And D is the worst example of a merchant.
Paley exposed him by tellimg he is a liar too.
And still some people defend him.
Maybe that forum has more promoters than I thought.
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I never stopped writing that any merchant doctor is not to be trusted and a very bad choice for LL.
And D is the worst example of a merchant.
Paley exposed him by tellimg he is a liar too.
And still some people defend him.
Maybe that forum has more promoters than I thought.
When you say "that" forum do you mean this forum or the "old" forum? I was never on there so I don't know what you refer to.
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More people wanting something, the more expensive it gets.
Period.
go read about industrial revolution.
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Why did Doctor Debiparshad delete all his old videos that were used to be on here? It was like series of short question and answer format.
Also how is he so confident that he can take on all these cosmetic patients when he has only very few years of experience? More than one doctor says that more important than treating complications is being able to anticipate and prevent problems, which only comes after a certain number of years and cases of that experience. I am not so sure that worst case scenario he would know what to do.
He must not have been one of Doctor Paley's top residents if Paley warns people to go specifically to experienced doctors for cosmetic lengthening in the next sentence after telling viewers that Debiparshad is not honest and that this mercenary business of leg lengthening makes him angry.
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I dont this hes lying. Look at his social media. At least 20 cases just on there. obviously there would be another set of patients who didnt want to be put on social media.
I dont know why Paley dismissed him though. How can paley know better than dr D how many cases hes done? Dr D is an adult and has moved on after his residency at Paley. How does Paley keep track of how many patients dr D does? Its against HIPAA rules if Paley has visibility on this.
I also saw one Dr D post on insta being likedby Paley institute, so now I think theyre friends again.
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Dr Kevin has done 46 surgeries in 2020 and has already done 7 in January 2021 as per his social media account. I can't think of anyone else who would do these many. I just hope is attending to his patients needs.
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I've heard dozens of good reviews about dr.debiparshad. his quality is not even open to arguement.
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Hey guys, my original plan was to go to UC Irvine and get LL in two years while taking a year off between Uni and med school. Plans changed and my brother, dad and me are buying a house outside of Vegas. The problem is, obviously, that now going to Dr. Shahab M, is less realistic due to distance.
Basically I’d just like as much opinions on Dr.D as possible because looking through some of the older posts, I’m pretty sketchy feeling on him currently. He seems like one of the more controversial docs on here and there isn’t a lot of recent discussion. Thanks to everyone for the help!
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Hey guys, my original plan was to go to UC Irvine and get LL in two years while taking a year off between Uni and med school. Plans changed and my brother, dad and me are buying a house outside of Vegas. The problem is, obviously, that now going to Dr. Shahab M, is less realistic due to distance.
Basically I’d just like as much opinions on Dr.D as possible because looking through some of the older posts, I’m pretty sketchy feeling on him currently. He seems like one of the more controversial docs on here and there isn’t a lot of recent discussion. Thanks to everyone for the help!
First, I don't think you necessarily need to be local to your LL doctor, especially since there are so few doctors doing CLL in the US. Personally, I flew across the country many times to do followups with Dr D and I would have had to do so regardless of which doctor I ended up going with.
Now I may be biased since I got my LL done with Dr. D, but I think he's a good doctor. His academic qualifications are very good, he seems knowledgable, and he has good bedside manner. He's also pretty young, so he's definitely more relatable to me (though of course youth is not really an advantage for doctors). He was actually more concerned about scarring than I was and he made very small incisions on my thighs during surgery compared to what I've seen some others post on the forum. I personally had a pretty good experience with him and have no problems recommending him.
Now there seems to be three controversial points that people on the forum like bringing up about him.
- The first one is that he is exaggerating how many cases he has done. I don't know if this is true or not; it's not like anyone can here can pull out any actual evidence for this other than word of mouth. He didn't have too many diaries on here in 2019, but he did have a lot more cases in 2020. I met multiple patients in the hospital and PT center who had surgery within a week of when I did. So at worse I think this could be a case of "fake it 'til you make it" which would certainly be controversial, but I guess every doctor has to start from somewhere. His CLL patient volume is definitely much higher now than when this thread first started. Also, keep in mind that only a tiny percentage of patients even go on this forum, let alone spend the time to write a diary.
- The second controversial point is that he is advertising CLL significantly compared to other doctors and focused on cosmetic cases vs fixing medical problems. This was one of the points people used to attack Dr. M early on in his career, but now that Dr. M is more established and has a ton of diaries on here, people don't bring it up anymore. However, a few cringeworthy billboards around LA are not on the same level as doing interviews across as many media sites as possible to promote the operation. He has definitely taken CLL advertising to a new level and has potentially increased the number of people who know about this surgery. Personally, I don't think CLL will ever become mainstream because it's too extreme, but people will have varying opinions on this. I don't think his advertising practices affect his skills as a surgeon though.
- The third controversial point seems to be his height. He seems to claim 5'9" to 5'9.5" in various sources people have found online and based on pictures some people claim that he is about 5'6". Having met him many times throughout the lengthening process, I would say he's definitely over 5'8" though maybe not quite 5'9". I was already past 5cm on lengthening before I was confident that I was a bit taller than him. I don't think he is exaggerating his height any more than a normal person would on the Internet. This also doesn't have anything to do with his surgical skills.
Again, I'm just a patient of his, so I don't really know that much more than you do. Before I had my surgery last fall I also read through this thread and all of his past journals. I reached out to a few doctors and ultimately went with him. I don't regret that decision at all.
However, I do want to point out that for LL there are many more important things to consider when you pick a doctor than where they are physically located or how much they cost. You should pick one that you trust and believe will perform the surgery well on you, and who will provide adequate post-operational support for any issues that you run into. Ultimately, no matter who you go with, most of the work for LL still comes from yourself. You'll be the one who has to do all the stretching and PT to stay ahead of the tightness. You will be the one taking your medication to stay ahead of the pain. The base rate at which your body makes bone callus will be the same regardless of which surgeon you go with. How fast you ultimately return to normal is based on the healing speed of your own body.
Which surgeon you go with (as long as it's in the US) is not the only impact on your chances of success with the surgery. Every surgeon who has journals on this forum has had cases of missing things during lengthening and running into issues because of it. While the surgeon having more experience with LL is great, you should also be looking at your own X-rays as well. Each surgeon has a case load of hundreds per year (if you count non-CLL cases) so you yourself are definitely the number one factor in your success with the surgery, given how long this procedure takes. To get the best outcome, be sure that you're ready to push yourself to the max before you do the surgery!
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Holy man, thanks so much for this! Like honestly this write up was waaaayyy more than I expected and I really, really appreciate it! I agree with all of your points and you hit on all the controversies I’m aware of! One thing that I really like, that you pointed out, is his academic achievements. Which are incredible and actually that was what my biggest hesitation with Dr. M was. Dr.M had the experience but the fact that his (residency?) was shut down was concerning. Since it’s a long way out I still have plenty of time to think and I’ll schedule an appointment just to talk to him. I definitely am not phased by the advertising personally. I really liked your point about how most of his patients aren’t on the forum. I think that I was getting to sucked into this site like it’s the end all be all of everything LL. Thanks again, super helpful!
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Hey guys, so my original plan was to get femur lengthening with Dr. Mahboubian because I was moving to LA. However, plans changed and I’m moving to Vegas so I will most likely be going with Dr. Debiparshad.
I’ve been doing a bit of reading on this forums older posts and it seems like people used to despise Dr. M for similar reasons to Dr.D : advertising, being new, generally seeming sleazy. In addition people have brought up that Dr. D is shorter than he claims and that Dr. Paley (I believe ) called him out. Dr. M seems to have a great reputation now due to having many successful patients and their journals. In fact Dr.M had more going against him: the fake journal entries, trying to get posts removed, going to a terrible school.
What I’m asking is, are their any reasons to steer clear of Dr. D besides some of the “sleazy” stuff? His patients seem happy, he went to Harvard, and I just care about being safe. I don’t care about anything but recovering and being safe/healthy/ in good hands.
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I think he is a solid choice. Are doctors not supposed to make money? Can he not be a good business person and a good surgeon? Doctors don't need to throw shade on each other. Just because Dr. P said it - doesn't make it's true. Seriously, I want a doctor that advertises because then I know any negative publicity will kill his business so he will be sure to keep all his promises and do a good job. He gave me someone I could contact as a reference after my consult.
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I honestly think that people hate him for no reason he’s at least in the top 10 if not 5 LL doctors.
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I honestly think that people hate him for no reason he’s at least in the top 10 if not 5 LL doctors.
Based on what?
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harvard, paley trained, does surgeries in 1.5 hours with minimal scarring, covered by major news media outlets, has done 100s of stryde and precice procedures already, all his patients on the forum have done well
also he is american so you get all the standards of american healthcare for free (strict regulations, hippa, hygiene, accessibility)
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harvard, paley trained, does surgeries in 1.5 hours with minimal scarring, covered by major news media outlets, has done 100s of stryde and precice procedures already, all his patients on the forum have done well
also he is american so you get all the standards of american healthcare for free (strict regulations, hippa, hygiene, accessibility)
He still seems "green" to me.
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i think i will go with Dr. Kevin for this surgery with Stryde on my tibia. I dont know when I will be doing it. maybe in 5 years from now. im already in my mid 30s asian. but it will be closer to my hometown in Cali. 100k plus 20k for essentials. or go to korea to have it done. but i would have trouble most time there. or my initial thought was vietnam where I will do the old fashion way. I have enough for it from my investments already. its just the free time that i dont have due to work.
the way i would do it is 2 weeks at the hospital etc. then fly back home to Cali for PT and xrays. Only 2 weeks max I can be away from work.
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Find the accusation that he lies about his height really strange. I was 5’9” on the dot night height before surgery and in my photo next to Dr D before surgery I was almost eye to eye with him with a day height of 176 measured barefoot seconds before with a stadiometer. He is approximately 5’9” in real life.
I’m just about to successfully hit 8cm and he and his staff were world class. No nerve problems, small scars, no deformities, great proportions, great bone healing. I don’t think he lies about the volume of patients either, each time I was in his office he was introducing me to two prospective patients who asked me queries before their surgery later that week. He also does a lot, >50%, non cosmetic cases on spine and congenital deformity cases, apparently. But even excluding those he does multiple cosmetic lengthening surgeries a week.
Anyways I thought he was a great surgeon and my case turned out perfectly.