Limb Lengthening Forum

What kind of discount

Questions regarding in case with after a few cm tibia lengthening where you need bone graft from the hip to the tibia:

- Is this a major surgery?
- How much does the surgery cost?
- Can you weight bear after the surgery?

Hi Shi.  How are you doing now?  I have been reading your post, and I am sorry for your experience at that clinic. I am actually doing research on where to go to get limb lengthening surgery in Korea. Yonsei Kim is one of the places I am researching. I am also researching on Dr. Lee and Dr. Im.  Like you have said, Yonsei Kim is offering a promotional discount. But, after reading from your experience, I am thinking twice before I let do surgery on me.  Anyways, thanks for the post.

Is there any test that can be done to asses bone growth? Bone density tests (bone densitometry or osteodensitometry) , vitamin d levels?

Well there's lots of hype around ai in healthcare, not sure why big pahrma is not interested in this field..

40-120 k. for cosmetic surgery, with <1 year recovery is a lot.

Forget about artificial growth plates and bs like that. LL will remain the only solution for height gain in our lifetime. And no advancement will be made except other weight bearing magnetic nails entering in the market.

Regarding recovery, it's 95% dependent on genetics and 5% on food, meds, rest, physio, etc. No amount of hormones will help if you're predisposed of poor bone regeneration. That's why some people recover faster and others never recover (getting non-unions).

Hi, did anyone explore the the current and potential impacts of AI on LL surgery? I'm curious if it can accelerate recovery times or the overall cost?

I've read about Alexander Teplyashin's research and the potential of using stem cells creating artificial growth plates, which could make the surgery less invasive and more efficient. The procedure was based on implanting a stem cell scaffold that would gradually turn into bone so once the scaffold is implanted there should be no discomfort and we should be able to exercise during the treatment. But it seems that his reaserch has been discontinued.

If AI contributes to predicting and optimizing genome editing methods such as CRISPR-Cas9, it seems that it could be used to advance stem cells research.

Any kind of weight bearing method, preferably internals and not LON. Since femurs heal faster and you will have weight bearing nails inside your bones, you will start walking much sooner compared with PRECICE 2 nails.

PRECICE 2 has many problems due to not being weight bearing. It bends or breaks, thus requiring another surgery for replacing nails that will cost huge amount of money. Being wheelchair bound for months is not a joke and I think it just doesn't worth it going with PRECICE 2.

It's kinda pathetic that LON patients can walk during the distraction phase but PRECICE 2 patients can't. Until bone bridge appears, it's not recommended to walk with PRECICE 2 nails and that won't happen for at least 4-5 months post surgery.

IMO, for 5 cm, going with LATN tibia is much better. You can walk during the lengthening phase and after you stop distracting, they will insert much more stable nails compared with LON. You will be able to walk with crutches and after sufficient bone bridge, you can walk unassisted and wait till bones heal completely.

Rellec:

IMO, anyone can spot that he's disproportional and there's no question about it. He did 15 cm at a 163 cm starting height with tiny torso and arms and it's impossible for him to look normal after that.

Of course if he tries to wear any kind of swimsuit he will look really odd. It's not only about arm length but his torso length is very small too. It's impossible for him to look normal besides men who are in a 175-180 range.

Looking like a freak is a legit concern after double LL of huge amounts.

6 inches is too much IMO. 4.5 inches or 11.5 cm in total is the upper limit. The more I see the results of massive lengthenings, the more I'm getting sure about it.

Yes, you are right he looks weird and i guess that when nked like at the beach it's really obvious that something isn't right with his legs. I have the same height as him pre op, 163cm with a 165cm wingspan, after seeing this i'm more commited to do a max of 7 cm in the femurs and call it a day, it's better to be a little shorter at 170 than to look like a freak for the rest of the life. I never wanted to be tall anyway, what matters the most for me it's to look more normal in comparison with others men, so height isn't my defining characteristic

Looking up for the method that it will give me the fastest path from ending the lengthening process to the phase when i can walk normally again. I'm not planning to lengthen that much, about 5 or 6 cm in femurs, most likely just 5,i want to prioritize my health as much as i can