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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: Ollie170 on April 05, 2020, 01:51:12 PM
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Hi all, I had my limb lengthening surgery a little over a month ago and have kept a diary of how I felt each day and what was going on and thought I’d share it with everyone.
So I went through the wannabetaller company and it wasn’t until a week before the surgery that I saw some negative reviews on this forum about them and I started freaking out a little, however I decided I’d at least meet them and ask about these reviews/patients and hear their side of the story. I can’t remember what was said but I know that they answered all my questions and they showed me videos of other patients of theirs and how they went with their surgeries and it was enough to satisfy me and I decided to go through with the surgery.
I felt that the wannabetaller team were very helpful to me and listened/respected any decisions I made. That being said it doesn’t magically make the surgery easy by any means and personally I would recommend to people not to do it as it’s a brutal mental battle the entire time especially if you’re doing it in secret and don’t tell anyone what you’re doing as you don’t have their support. I’d done a lot of research but there were still plenty of surprises and nothing can fully prepare you for it. If you decide to do it then I think wannabetaller is a safe choice but of course you shouldn’t just take my word for it and I strongly recommend you look into plenty of options before making a decision.
I paid 17000 euros for the surgery + 650 for fixator removal + 2700 for 7-8 weeks of hotel stay, physio, food etc. So it is by no means cheap but money was never an issue to me.
I think that’s everything I wanted to mention in my little introduction here, I’ll start posting how I felt each day tomorrow.
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Day 1 - Landed in Istanbul feeling very nervous and wondering if I should back out or not.
Met the team who did make me feel a bit better and we went and had dinner with another guy who is having his surgery a week after me so it was nice to see someone else is doing this.
Going to sleep now, then I have my legs x-rayed in the morning and then surgery tomorrow, it does feel very rushed but I’d also rather have it all done as fast as possible.
Day 2 - I was given some things to sign which I assume is just standard hospital legal things but it’s a bit annoying that it’s all written in Turkish.
I’m waiting in my hospital room with my translator for my surgery at 2pm, my translator keeps telling me I’m going to be crying all night and in pain, I don’t know if he’s trying to be funny but it’s something I could do without.
I know this is something I want to do, I want to be taller but I can’t help feel so nervous and wonder if I should back out, I’ve already made my mind up that I’m going through with it but I hope I’m not making a mistake.
I was originally planning on doing 4cm but I’ve decided I’m just going with 3, lots of people will think that’s not worth it but I’d be happy with it I think it’s a noticeable amount to make me feel better.
Hopefully the pain when I wake up isn’t as agonising as I expect, I’ve accepted that this will likely be some of the worse pain I’ll ever go through.
I’ll be spending 5 days in hospital and then 30 days lengthening so I’m hopeful that the whole thing will be over in a little over a month.
Just came out of surgery at 6pm, I’m told surgery took 4 hours for me and when I came too I was shaking quite uncontrollably and it felt pretty scary though I wasn’t in a lot of pain at this point I could just tell something was wrong with my body. They’ve hooked me up to a drip with pain killers so I don’t really feel any pain, apparently the shaking I experienced is a normal side effect from surgery and putting your body through that sort of trauma.
For the last seven hours I’ve been in and out of sleep and under a few different pain killers, I’ve been able to flex my toes backwards and forwards, slightly bend and lift my legs and will try walking tomorrow.
My main problem at the moment is that I have a catheter in my penis so when I piss it really stings and has made me nervous to try go since the first time. I would describe the pain in my legs as a dull ache at the joints where the pins are going into my ankles and knees.
The pain might get worse but I’m told I’ll be hooked up to different pain killers for the five days I’m in hospital. After that I’ll be given a whole heap of different medicines to take and they’ll explain how and when to take them.
Day 3 - It’s 9am now, it hurts slightly more than earlier but it still isn’t bad it still just aches a bit.
I’m still too nervous to pee but I’m hoping they take the catheter out soon.
1pm now and it’s just been me and my translator in the room, I might ask him if he can find my doctor soon so I can have help taking a few steps. I’m glad the lain hasn’t been too bad so I’ve been able to prove the translator wrong, he seems like an alright guy and under different circumstances I’d probably get along with him but he’s been talking about the wannabetaller team and saying they won’t help me that for 4000 euros I could stay with him for a month so I told him that was way too much and he stopped asking about it.
Pain is still just a dull ache which is fine, sort of managing to pee through the catheter as well but it more just drips out bit by bit.
2:30pm I had some people come in and change the bandages which took about 15 minutes. Still not much pain but I’m nervously waiting for it to start. 3pm I took a few steps with a walker, it was very uncomfortable and unpleasant, I wouldn’t say super painful but there were times when I felt like my leg was going to twist around which scared me.
5:30pm pain is still just a dull ache but feels a little worse so I might need more painkillers to get to sleep.
Stood up again after dinner at about 7:45 but couldn’t walk as my left leg was hurting too much, I just stood up as straight and tall as I could while using the walker to steady myself and did some light marching on the spot.
Trying to sleep now but painkillers have worn off it’s 8:40, the pain isn’t terrible but it’s enough to keep me awake.
Right after I typed that a nurse came in and gave me painkillers so I’ll try get some sleep.
The painkillers didn’t do much and I’ve been in little bits of pain but still nothing to make me cry out or anything.
My translator had a falling out with the Wannabetaller company and he left me so someone from Wannabetaller came and stayed with me for the night. I wasn’t too bothered by it, they told me that was only the second time they’d hired him and won’t be doing so again.
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Doctor Halil Buldu I think is not any more in wannabetaller, he is livelifetaller
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I was confused when I was told he was my doctor because I set everything up through the wannabetaller website but I was glad to have him because of the negative things I’d heard about the other doctors. I think the doctors and the various companies like wannabetaller must all be in some sort of contact.
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FAKE DIARY. only wannabe taller always put their services in to their diaries ..... (I paid 17000 euros for the surgery + 650 for fixator removal + 2700 for 7-8 weeks of hotel stay, physio, food etc)
my diary on how i was almost crippled by wannabe tallers doctors http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64740.0
the good news is i have been contacted by several other patients who have been injured by wannabetallers doctors who are in consultations with my lawyers and are about to sue wannabe taller and their doctors as well. wannabe taller stop advertising through fake diaries, you still are using the same doctors after you know they are seriously damaging people. you have no morals
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Thanks for sharing your experience. :)
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Man it isn’t a fake diary if you read the whole thing you’ll see I’m advising people not to go through with this. Just thought I’d put the price in because there’s always people who are going to do it anyway and they always want to know what it’s going to cost them.
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Day 4 - Only managed a few hours sleep last night and my legs feel very stiff and sore. I hope walking is a bit easier today so I can go to the toilet by myself and they take the catheter out. I still feel quite scared and afraid, I don’t even want to lengthen much anymore as I just want to get it over with. I am exactly 177.3cm tall so I might only lengthen 2.7 cm getting me to 180cm.
I’m sure this won’t seem worth it too anyone but if this surgery has shown me anything it’s that I could actually be happy with whatever height now so at least I can confidently say that I won’t feel insecure about my height regardless of how much I lengthen.
Legs are mostly aching where the pins go into my legs which I always assumed would be the most uncomfortable part, I was able raise my legs up and down though it did hurt quite a lot.
I really need to take a .
Walked a bit more at 9:30 probably only for about 10-15 minutes but it has made me feel a lot better to know that I’m capable of some walking this early on.
Finally had the catheter taken out at about 12 o’clock and that was probably the most uncomfortable I’ve felt so far, wasn’t overly painful but still not pleasant and my penis stings a little bit, I didn’t realise how far in the catheter went.
Walking is definitely getting easier already but I can really feel where the pins are inside my ankles and knees. My right ankle is pretty sore and when I stand I can’t put my right foot flat on the ground, I plan on talking to my doctor about it.
I was given a new translator and this guy has been awesome he let me play South Park games on his laptop and he was really good to talk to about anything.
Day 5 - Slept a lot better last night and was shown my x-rays and saw the my bones are still kept straight and was assured that it’s normal to have some pain putting a foot down.
I was able to get up with a walker by myself this morning and walk to the toilet and do everything by myself.
I was able to stand and use the tap to wash myself a bit which felt great as I’ve been feeling really unclean.
I was also able to walk a bit more normally and put my right foot flatter on ground so I think it will get better each day.
Less than 24 hours since I had the catheter out and it all feels normal again down there.
I walked around again and the doctors said they’re impressed with how well I’m able to walk so maybe I’m lucky and am coping better than previous patients, I hope I can walk normally once the lengthening is done and external fixators are taken off.
6pm now and nothing hurts when laying down, when I walk with the walker I feel tension in my right ankle and can’t step properly, it makes me feel scared and I can’t believe I’ve actually done this too my body.
Even if everything works out I can’t say I’d recommend doing something like this for purely cosmetic reasons, it’s quite terrifying thinking you’re potentially going to be crippled and it’s your own fault.
It’s 7.30pm and I walked maybe 50m (with a walker) and got a bit of a better understanding of walking normally with my right foot. I also feel I could walk with crutches but I’d probably neglect my right leg too much which would end up making it weaker.
I slept from about 12am - 2am but now I’ve woken up sweating which hasn’t happened before and my legs are hurting worse than they ever have.
Also my translator snores which can be a bit maddening but I still love the guy.
Day 6 - I played some music through my earphones to block out the snoring and managed some restless sleep for about 5 hours, I really hope I’m over reacting and that everything turns out fine.
I keep having to remind myself that plenty of people have done this and lengthened more and still recovered and that of course it’s going to be uncomfortable walking on broken legs with metal going through them. I’d say as of right now I regret doing this however if I can recover fully then I think I will feel indifferent about it and just try forget and move on with my life.
I think I feel confident about only lengthening a small amount and then having the external fixator removed but I’m worried that I’ll feel the internal nail the whole time during the consolidation process which will prevent me from bending my ankles and knees and walking normally.
1pm and I’ve just been shown how I’ll do the lengthening along with some more physio exercises which has already made me feel better when walking on my right foot.
They’ve also assured me that should I do everything right then I’ll be able to walk properly within two weeks of having external fixators removed and I won’t notice the nails in the bones during the consolidation phase. Two weeks does sound a bit fast and they might just be saying that to make me feel better but I guess at this point all I can do is wait and see.
It’s the external fixators that put the tension on your ankle and knees so that will likely be an issue the entire time they’re in.
I’m still scared of course and I’m sure I will be until I’m back to normal but I do feel better.
Every 3 days I’ll have a nurse come and help me change my bandages and keep them clean as well as do physio and I can do physio myself for the other 2 days and every 2 weeks I will go get an X-ray.
The physio I’ve been shown involves lying down with my legs straight and having a band go around my foot and pull my foot towards me to help stretch the calves. And the other exercise is to lie down and bend my knee and bring it as close to my chest as I can. I do 25 on each leg 4 times a day.
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You have lucky that Halil made you surgery, he is not i wannabetaller he is livelifetaller and he is only doctor there, others doctors like Uzgur, they have bad reputation, only Dr Halil made his job serious
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Yo dude oliie170....i am following ur journey and as far as i can see..its notable that u ran into something u dont know what it is..at 177cm i dnt think u understand what height dysphoria really is..u said u r overreacting and i say u r 200% r8..coz ur suggesting people stay out of these..i think before getting into this u shldv known this is a process beneficial for the shorter folks who want to be at least average height more or less..but at 177 ur like..oh this is something i should do..i wanna try and see wht it feels like..and if any1 offers it for free at my height 171 for only 2.5cm i wld tell him i rather go to jail rather then do it..n ur being so childish here after all this ur only going for 2.5 dude i dnt know wht to say to u..all this crap for that gain :'(....i am also gonna do it for 10(both segment) but unlike u i am up for 5cm each segment..and i think thts d best for me....and i think u shld have researched more thoroughly before getting into this..i dnt think u r a r8 fit for this surgery..if u r going only for 2.5cm then god bless u for wasting ur valuable time and money and of course 2 working legs..but i dnt think u gave it much of a thought before acting childish..anyways i hope everything turns out well for u after this..i will be praying for u mate..good luck for ur further journey.
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Hey meck r u okay with ur complication wht happened to u mate..let us know about ur condition..i hope everything's well.
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Im totally fine now i stop lenthening 2 days and my foot is ok , i reach 16 cm until now and soon i stop and remove device
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Hey, people of all shapes and sizes aren’t happy with their height, like I said I’m sure lots of people wouldn’t think 2.5cm is worth it but it was to me. I know I’m not exactly short but whenever I looked at myself I saw myself at short, probably a mental thing but either way it’s done now and I do feel like I’m recovering well.
Calling me childish feels a bit harsh but I agree I didn’t do enough research even though I thought I had.
I didn’t try it because ‘I wanted to see what it feels like’ I knew it would be a painful experience but I did it because like many others I wanted to be taller, simple as that.
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what gives you the audacity to make this comment below?
"If you decide to do it then I think wannabetaller is a safe choice"
another reason why i say its fake after several people have written diaries about how they are not safe and damn right dangerous.
wannabe taller have left several of us butchered by their doctors that they keep using, they will pretend to be your best friend ,but when something goes wrong they will deny its the doctors fault, after his pure negligence and they will leave you to rot.
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Okay again I don’t think you’re reading the entire message, I’m writing about my experience with the doctors and everyone involved and for me it’s all worked out but immediately after I said that they’re a safe choice I recommended they look into all options and not just take my word for it.
I’m sorry things have gone south for you and to anyone reading this you should go check out his diary as well because it shows how dangerous this surgery can be.
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Day 7 - I’m leaving the hospital today!
Here’s the medicines they’ve given me:
Lansor (stomach protector) - once a day before brekky (empty stomach)
Dolorex (painkiller) - Take 1 after brekky (full stomach)
Gerelgine K (painkiller) - Take 1 after brekky (full stomach)
Oksapar (Blood thinner)- An injection into belly fat once a day
Coraspirin - Another blood thinner to be used after Oskapar
Contramol (strong painkiller) - Take 1 after lunch (full stomach)
Contramol (strong painkiller) - Take another 1 after dinner (full stomach) must be at least two hours after taking the first one
Dolorex (painkiller) - Take 1 after dinner (full stomach)
Gerelgine K (painkiller) - Take 1 after dinner (full stomach)
I slept pretty well last night, didn’t have any pain killers and was still fine. I woke up twice, once from some aching in my legs and a second time from someone snoring but both were manageable.
One thing I definitely wasn’t aware of was how many needles I’d have to constantly have, so at least this will help me get over my fear of needles, I’ve had them in several different spots in my arms and have to have one in my stomach every day.
I’ve just gotten changed out of my hospital clothes and put on some pants and flip flops and it’s infuriating how difficult such simple tasks have suddenly become.
I’m in a 3 star hotel for the next month and it’s pretty nice and it’s good to finally be on my own and feel some independence again.
I’ve been told as well that once I have the external fixators taken out I can have the internal nails in for however long with no risk of infection (once the holes have healed) I do plan on having them out as soon as I can but they recommend leaving them in for a year or two anyway while the new bone fully heals.
Physio exercises absolutely help making walking easier a lot of the tension is in my right ankle where the pins go, it’s a bit uncomfortable but already getting easier and then I can walk reasonably flat footed for awhile but then when I lie back down I have to redo the stretches to walk comfortably again.
It’s 8pm and my legs were aching a little, I’ve done plenty of walking and physio today so I’ve just taken some Dolorex and am going to sleep.
Day 8 - I’m sleeping better each night, I slept from about 9pm - 5am but woke up with a sore back which I think is just from lying on my back and not moving while I sleep. I miss being able to roll around on my bed.
My feet and ankles also felt a bit stiff but I imagine it’ll be like that every morning from not moving, once I did some stretches they felt better.
It’s 1pm now and I’ve done lots of stretches and walking but my right ankle is being extra difficult today, my nurse Onur is coming at 3-4pm so he can check if everything is alright. The cleaners at the hotel don’t speak English but are still very kind and come and go to help me out.
It’s nearly 4pm now and my ankle is hurting a fair bit making it tricky to walk but that could be because I haven’t taken any pain killers today.
Onur was here and he showed me where to do my belly injection, I didn’t even feel it go in but I’m still not looking forward to doing it myself.
5:15pm now and my right ankle is in quite a lot of pain, I think I have a pretty high pain tolerance based on my experiences so far and that the doctors have been surprised that I can walk so much and everything but I seriously wouldn’t recommend doing this for purely cosmetic reasons.
I truly can’t believe I ever thought this was a good idea, I’ve never been a super athletic person but suddenly all I want to do is run and jump around but even once I get these off my legs it’ll take a long time to be able to safely do all that.
Painkillers have kicked in now so feeling abit better but I don’t want to have to rely on them.
Day 9 - I ended up having a pretty decent sleep and asked my doctor for a copy of my x-rays so I could look at them a bit closer.
I think there are no good days or bad days with this surgery, all days have good and bad moments. It’s obviously too late to back out now so all I can do is what my doctors say and hope it’s all worth it in the end.
Just did my needle in my stomach and it wasn’t bad at all, still not happy about having to do it every day for the next month though.
Onur came and changed my bandages and I am now officially 0.25mm taller, he also helped me do my stretches at my ankle and he did it a lot further back than I have been which I guess I should do, it’s just hard doing it myself because of the pain but I’ll force myself too.
He also said the swelling will go down within a week and that I have no infections.
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what gives you the audacity to make this comment below?
"If you decide to do it then I think wannabetaller is a safe choice"
another reason why i say its fake after several people have written diaries about how they are not safe and damn right dangerous.
wannabe taller have left several of us butchered by their doctors that they keep using, they will pretend to be your best friend ,but when something goes wrong they will deny its the doctors fault, after his pure negligence and they will leave you to rot.
You are both are mistaken. Halil Buldu has not been a member of the wannabetaller team for a long time. His assistant said that he was in the team for less than a year and did not do operations. If you think that OP diary is false, then I can provide my proof of operation with Halil. I even agreed to show my face and name on his instagram. I had the operation about six months ago (7 cm) and have been walking without assistance after 2 weeks after removing fixators. Right now i wait full consolidation.
Unfortunately you are not lucky with another doctor, but why Halil bad in this case?
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You are both are mistaken. Halil Buldu has not been a member of the wannabetaller team for a long time. His assistant said that he was in the team for less than a year and did not do operations. If you think that OP diary is false, then I can provide my proof of operation with Halil. I even agreed to show my face and name on his instagram. I had the operation about six months ago (7 cm) and have been walking without assistance after 2 weeks after removing fixators. Right now i wait full consolidation.
Unfortunately you are not lucky with another doctor, but why Halil bad in this case?
All I know is it was Dr Buldu that did my surgery and that it was wannabetaller who organised it for me. I didn’t think he was bad, I more found the surgery and the not being able to walk properly was too much stress for me so I stopped lengthening early.
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Day 10 - Had another good sleep though I have to set an alarm for 3am to do one of the lengthening turns.
Hope I don’t end up with any permanent hip or back problems, they hurt in some spots from putting more weight on my left leg than my right.
I think the next month each day is going to be pretty much the same, the mornings are the worst but still not terrible.
It’s 3pm now and I’m officially an entire mm taller.
6:30 now, my feet are still kinda swollen and I hate looking at them but all I can do is the physio exercises and wait for the swelling to go down. Only 26 days left until I finish lengthening anyway.
Day 11 - I guess now that the lengthening has started I somewhat feel like it’s worth it but it’s still in no way a pleasant experience and I’m still worried about my right ankle, it’s going to be really annoying if I can’t put it flat until the fixators are taken off.
Some bad news about today, I have bit of a tummy bug and have had to go to toilet 3 times now and it hasn’t been pretty.
12:30 now and my stomach is all good, doing the stretches and going for a short walk definitely make me feel better in terms of recovery but I don’t want to overdo it so that still leaves a lot of the day to just be bored.
It’s 7:45pm now, the days do feel like they’re going fast which is good and bad in the sense that I hope I’m doing enough exercises and walking. I think I am though, the only problem I have is my right ankle, other than that I can walk fine.
Day 12 - Didn’t sleep very well last night but I’m not sure why, I didn’t have any pain I think I just couldn’t sleep.
Same problems as usual, swollen feet and my right ankle refuses to cooperate.
I’m looking forward to being able to shower again next Monday or Tuesday(it’s Thursday at the moment). I’m not overly dirty or anything but I can still feel I’m not clean.
Onur came to see me again and I no longer have bandages around my legs so now I have to get used to seeing my swollen legs in all their glory with various cuts and stitches in them. The cuts aren’t too bad though, I can tell they’ll fade and my legs are hairy enough to cover them up but I’m worried about where the pins go into each leg, I think they’ll be noticeable for quite awhile.
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Day 13 - Swelling on my right foot is starting to go down though it’s still hard to put my foot down flat.
I haven’t done as much stretching as I normally would but I did walk a lot more than normal and I’ve been told that walking is the best thing to do for recovery.
I think a good way to keep positive is once you start lengthening you can think about how much taller you already are, I haven’t grown in about 4 years and now within 4 days I’m 0.4cm taller.
Day 14 - I don’t think it’s possible for me to properly do the stretches on my right ankle, I’m gonna ask Onur about it today because of where the nail is going into my ankle I think it would do more harm to try and force it to move when there’s a nail in the way.
I’m not having a great day today, can’t help but worry about my right leg, left leg seems fine and like it’ll recover but my right leg doesn’t.
Went for a walk which always makes me feel better, doctor said when the external fixators come out they also take those screws out so I just need to keep up with my physio.
Day 15 - Waking up this morning was okay, swelling is going down and I was able to make my way to the toilet without much pain.
About to go to bed, been a pretty good day though I’m still clueless as to what I’m meant to do with my right ankle/foot when I walk, should I force it to go flat or is that bad, should I walk on my toes which feels comfortable or is that going to make it do that permanently? Doing my head in.
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Day 16 - I’m officially 178cm or 5’10”
20 days and I’ll be 180cm and can hopefully have the fixators taken off.
It could be my imagination but I think I feel more awkward walking due to the added length, I assume I’ll get used to that though over time.
Day 17 - Don’t really know what to keep writing as every day is the same, I guess my left leg is hurting a bit more than usual this morning.
Went and had some xrays this afternoon to check my progress, I’ll hopefully get to look at them in a day or two.
Day 18 - One of the worst parts is that every morning, regardless of if I go before I go to sleep, I wake up needing to pee really bad and it takes a good five minutes to make my way to the toilet and walking is more painful in the morning unless I do the stretches but then that’s another 10 minutes of needing to pee.
I’m going to start trying to do more stretches that will help fix my right foot/ankle as well.
Also just had my first shower today and washed my hair and face properly, nobody told when I could or couldn’t shower so I just figured as long as I keep my legs dry it should be fine.
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These next few days I was feeling really down and was when I started to decide I didn’t care about lengthening anymore and just wanted to get back to walking normally. For me I just wanted to get over my height issues which didn’t necessarily mean becoming 2-3 inches taller, so while I only did 1 inch the whole experience did help me get over my insecurities.
Day 19 - This whole thing is honestly just making me depressed and realise how good my life was before. I can’t wait to get the fixators taken off so I can see where I’m at in terms of walking and work on my recovery from there.
I went for about a 20-30 minute walk around the hotel which again made me feel better, I’m going to focus on making sure my left leg stays as strong and flexible as it is so that when the fixators come off that leg should be able to step normally and I’ll see how I need to deal with my right foot.
I’ve now lengthened 1cm which is exciting but also I can barely stand up straight so it can feel a bit pointless, 2 weeks until I finish lengthening and can start my proper recovery.
Day 20 - The physical pain hasn’t been difficult and manageable but it’s a big mental struggle for me. I definitely have moments where I’m depressed and mad at myself just for how useless I’ve made myself.
I managed to take a few very uneasy steps today without a walker which was promising although I imagine I looked like a baby taking its first steps.
Day 21 - The worst part is not knowing when I’ll be able to walk normally again, all I can do is hope I can at least get around on crutches once the fixators are off and then go back home and start getting proper physiotherapy sessions.
Hopefully I don’t have anything to worry about, I mean I’m only lengthening 2.5cm and lots of people have done way more and still walked so I just have to trust my doctor knows what he’s doing.
I went for a walk and went and saw the other guy who had surgery as he’s staying in the same hotel which has made me feel a little saner and not so depressed.
I was also visited by one of the guys from wannabetaller and told him I plan on stopping lengthening soon, he seemed disappointed but said it was my choice anyway so I can do what I want. He also said that once the fixators are off I’ll be able to walk on crutches and be walking around normally within 2-3 weeks which does sound too good to be true but we’ll have to wait and see.
I don’t care if I could theoretically lengthen more or people think it’s not worth it, it’s affecting me mentally and mental health is more important than a cosmetic surgery.
Once I had made the decision to stop lengthening early I started to feel a lot better.
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Imagine how I feel in hotel 6 month made femur than tibia and reach 16cm, we have same doctor, all this time is very easy to lose mind, because pain is al time active, but thx God I finish both segment, in 3 days i remove fixators, my advice for you is stay strong this is only temporary and soon is gone
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Imagine how I feel in hotel 6 month made femur than tibia and reach 16cm, we have same doctor, all this time is very easy to lose mind, because pain is al time active, but thx God I finish both segment, in 3 days i remove fixators, my advice for you is stay strong this is only temporary and soon is gone
I don’t know how people manage to have them on for that long, I had mine taken off last week and already feeling way better. Good luck with your own recovery, I imagine 16cm will take some time to get used to.
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It is absolut stupid to do this surgery for 2,5 cm.
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It is absolut stupid to do this surgery for 2,5 cm.
Obviously I intended on doing more but plans change
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Hi, Ollie170
It's a bit disappointing that you start something and left it in the middle of the road. I understood your point about being insecure and get over with your insecurity with only few cms.But you should try little more longer stay in frames so that once the frames are gone you don't feel insecure
again by feeling that you could have done little more batter because then there will be no turning back from that point. Do well and stay strong.
Though your starting height was impressive.
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Hi, Ollie170
It's a bit disappointing that you start something and left it in the middle of the road. I understood your point about being insecure and get over with your insecurity with only few cms.But you should try little more longer stay in frames so that once the frames are gone you don't feel insecure
again by feeling that you could have done little more batter because then there will be no turning back from that point. Do well and stay strong.
Though your starting height was impressive.
Hey, I understand why everyone will think 2.5cm isn’t worth it I personally don’t really think it is either but you can’t know for sure how you’re going to react during the lengthening period and I found it was too much for me and I just had to get back to normal life.
Frames have been off for a little over a week and I’m feeling better each day.
Thanks :)
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Day 22 - 4 days until I’m 179cm I’m mostly excited to just get my recovery started so I can go home.
I think going to talk to my friend down the hall each day is a good idea, it helps a lot so hopefully I can last another week without going insane.
I’ve got pretty good range of movement in my knees even with the fixators in I can bend them about 80% of what I used to so I can almost put my heels right up to my butt, that does reassure me that the doctor is telling the truth when he says once the fixators are out the range of movement goes back to normal.
I am starting to get bruises on my stomach though from the needles but I’ve only got 5 left anyway.
I’ve spoken to the doctors and they said they’ll respect my wishes to have the fixators off early which is a relief, I was half worried I’d signed something that meant I legally had to do a certain amount.
Day 23 - What’s really annoying is that even if I were to be fully recovered straight away I can’t go home anytime soon because of this coronavirus.
I’m still worried about how long it will take to walk normally again but I guess whatever the outcome is I’ll only have myself to blame and will have to deal with it however I can.
I obviously will still have my doubts until I see how well I recover but I think the human body can quite easily deal with the lengthening but the real challenge is how much your mind can handle not walking properly and all the negative thoughts that you will most certainly have.
I’ll be having the fixators out sometime next week and they’ve told me because I haven’t lengthened much I’ll be able to keep doing the lengthening right up until they take them out.
Day 24 - It’s been confirmed I’ll be having the fixators out next Wednesday, just had my bandages changed.
After seeing my bruises Onur said I didn’t have to use the needle anymore which is good.
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Dude u r very pessimist..y r u even in this forum..whts ur age coz u act very naive..y d hell did u go through this surgery..how many days did u research dude....u r ridiculous to waste ur good legs,money,time for only 2.5cm lol
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Dude u r very pessimist..y r u even in this forum..whts ur age coz u act very naive..y d hell did u go through this surgery..how many days did u research dude....u r ridiculous to waste ur good legs,money,time for only 2.5cm lol
Me being a pessimist shouldn’t have anything to do with being on this forum or not, I’m on the forum because I’ve had the surgery and am sharing my experience. I was researching it for over a year, I wasn’t under any delusions that it would be easy.
You haven’t had the surgery yourself, you might think you’re prepared and able to do it; I know I thought I was, but you don’t know for sure until it’s happening.
I doubt I’m the only person who’s gotten cold feet halfway through and decided to just be happy and quit while they’re ahead.
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Than stay strong and do it right. I had to go back to my job two weeks after surgery and it was also a hard time but after surgery there is no way back
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Day 25 - Officially 1 week until I have these removed, even though I won’t be walking normally straight away I think it’s going to be a huge improvement to how I feel.
I do really wish I could be home right now and able to walk normally though, as soon as that’s possible I’m going to be incredibly happy.
Day 26 - I’m very much looking forward to being able to sleep on my side again, the last couple of nights I’ve been half attempting it but because of the fixators you can’t quite get the same level of comfort.
My right knee seems to be hurting more as well though this could be because I’m only taking painkillers at night time now but obviously it’s the fixators that cause the discomfort in your ankle and knee joints so theoretically once they’re removed they should start to feel better as they heal.
Day 27 - I forgot to write anything on this day.
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Day 28 - It’s Saturday now so only a few more days until I can get these off.
My right knee is starting to hurt a bit I think the fixator just disagreed with my right leg more than my left in general because that’s where all the issues have been. Only a few days until they’re out though and I can see where I’m at.
Day 29 - There’s definitely times when I feel this isn’t so bad and I wish I had it in me to last another week to get 3cm but ultimately I know I’d go crazy if I have the fixators in any longer.
Day 30 - 48 hours until they’re out, I’ll probably keep writing how each day after that goes to document how my walking goes.
I’m told I’ll be on the walker for a week after having fixators out and then I assume I’ll move onto crutches.
Onur also cut most of my stitches out as all my cuts have healed (though they’re still a bit scabby) so overall my legs are looking more and more like normal.
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Day 31 - I’ve found my right foot goes all numb but kind of hurts at the same time when I fall asleep, maybe something is preventing blood flow.
It’s 6pm, I’ll get to lengthen another mm before having fixators removed which will mean I’ve done 2.5cm which isn’t much but the experience in general has helped me get over my height issues one way or another which was my main goal. Also 2.5cm is an inch which is still a solid amount of growth for someone who hasn’t changed height in years.
Day 32 - Didn’t get any sleep last night but that’s alright I don’t feel tired, just excited and for some reason slightly nervous about having the fixators off today.
Fixators are out, took about 2 hours and waking up was probably when I experienced the worst pain I have so far like a 7/10. It hurt down where the pins were in my ankles and I was shaking for maybe 10 minutes, it’s been half an hour and pain is maybe a 5/10 so manageable but not ideal.
Overall though it’s great to look at my legs and see there’s nothing attached to them.
6pm now pain is steadily going down but walking is an absolute nightmare, it hurts every step but it felt like the pain was going down as I walked. Also my knees can bend perfectly now but the lower half of my shins hurt to walk so my walking is more awkward than ever.
Day 33 - Managed about 5 hours sleep straight last night which was good but I also didn’t get to sleep until about 2am, I can sleep on my side with a pillow between my legs so my knees and ankles don’t touch, I’m hoping they heal over fairly quick and the bottom of my shins stop hurting (already getting less painful) so I can sleep 100% like I normally would.
Just had my bandages changed and the holes from the pins look tiny, not worried about scarring anymore especially once my leg hairs grow back.
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Day 34 - I have no more painkillers and the pain is quite bad down at my shins.
I’m going to ask Onur about painkillers.
I’ve got some Brufen for the pain, seems to be helping a little, if I take two a day it’ll last me 10 days so hopefully after those 10 days the pain will be more manageable and I’ll be on crutches so I can start to move around quicker.
I don’t care too much at this point about how long I’m on crutches, my main goal is for any pain to stop and to get back home as soon as I can.
I’m a lot comfier in bed now that I can lay down on my side though my lower back seems to hurt because I can’t always roll around or bend my body how I normally would to get comfy but it’s a relatively minor issue.
Day 35 - My legs can feel a bit stiff in the mornings and when I go to straighten my knees there’s a bit of tension when they’re about 90% straight but it isn’t painful and I can push them to go straight relatively easy.
Pain in my lower shins is also slowly fading.
Onur just visited and changed my bandages, I’m definitely not worried about any scarring, all the cuts and holes look tiny already. He showed me some exercises to do which help with flexibility and movement and said to keep up the walking. I don’t regret having the fixators removed early, I feel way better mentally but can still tell I’m taller.
Day 36 - Mornings are still the worst, legs are always really stiff and you can’t just stretch them out like you normally would.
Once I’m up and about I feel a lot better, do my stretches, walk to the toilet and my legs feel about as good as they can, pain isn’t too much of an issue aside from in the morning but that also makes it frustrating not being able to walk normally because everything feels fine.
So I was just introduced to a new physio. This guy showed me a bunch of new exercises and after I did them all which took about 30-45 minutes then I took a few definitely awkward steps but there was barely any pain it just felt awkward. It’s made me feel great though, like I’m already making good progress in walking again.
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Day 37 - Woke up feeling fine this morning, my knees weren’t stiff and painful, doing my stretches now and it’s crazy how quickly they seem to be helping.
Every time I do the stretches and exercises I can feel myself getting better, I can confidently take small steps with both feet, though I’d still look like a baby taking it’s first steps.
I’ve walked around my room without a walker a couple times just while doing stuff like getting some food or whatever.
I can tell I’ve lost a lot of weight, I don’t particularly care but when I put my undies on today they were really loose around my thighs. Hopefully once I can walk around normally they’ll start to go back to their normal size.
Day 38 - My lower shins were hurting a little bit more than yesterday when I woke up but nothing major, just need to do my stretches and they’ll be fine.
I’m finally getting crutches on Friday so I’ll be able to work on my walking even more.
Just walked up and down the hall and I was carrying my walker in front of me in case I needed it but I managed to walk without putting it on the ground! My right calf hurts now as I think it’s weaker than my left and my lower back is also sore but I think that’s a good thing, like I’m using the muscles to walk again after not using them for so long.
Been a few hours since my little walk and I was gonna go again but my legs are so tired so maybe I shouldn’t overdo it.
While I don’t regret stopping the lengthening early if I could go back I probably would push myself to do 3cm, I think being stuck in another country while crippled and with the coronavirus going on didn’t help the whole mental side of the surgery.
Day 39 - One of my exercises I do now is see how far I can squat, a few days ago I couldn’t balance or bend my knees at all while standing but after a few days of doing the stretches it’s getting better, I still can’t barely squat more than a few centimeters lower but it’s still progress.
Went for a short walk and it felt slightly more natural, I didn’t have my butt sticking out as much and focused on standing up as straight as I could when walking. It feels good, I’m pretty optimistic about a fast recovery seeing as I didn’t lengthen much.
I’d really like to measure myself, I don’t have any of my familiar surroundings to compare, I do feel taller 2.5cm is still an inch and that’s a noticeable difference, I think I have to go to the hospital in a week or two so maybe I can measure there.
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Day 40 - Okay so last night I decided to take my bandages off my right leg as I felt they were really tight and cutting off circulation and half an hour after taking them off my right leg felt perfect, obviously not strong enough to start jumping around but before I couldn’t stretch it out straight without feeling a little tension and now it feels exactly how it used to.
Everyday is definitely getting better and better.
Day 41 - Not sure why but I haven’t been able to sleep until 3am the last few nights, it’s currently 3:40 and I’m going to stay up all night/day and try get a regular sleep pattern going again.
Took a shower standing up for the first time and I think the hot water helped relax the joints at my ankle because it feels a bit more flexible.
Just got given crutches and it makes walking feel so much more normal. I feel like a regular cripple now.
Went for about an hour long walk which was good just because I’m capable of it but bad because now my legs are sore especially in like the top of my butt/bottom of my back. I think the muscles are just weak so I’ll have to gradually build them back up.
Day 42 - Had my first proper 8 hour sleep in a long time which felt great.
I tried walking without crutches and felt like my balance has gotten a bit better but in no way perfect.
My days are mostly spent doing my stretches and walking around a bit.
I stretch my ankle as much as I can using the band, going up, down, left and right. Then bend my foot up towards my while bending my knees. Then I put a pillow under each knee and push my knee down. Then using one crutch to balance I stand on 1 foot at a time. Then I see how far I can squat.
When I had the fixators removed my legs had no shape it just went straight from my ankle to my knee but now most of the swelling is going down so my ankles look more normal and my calves are starting to have some shape to them though they’re still very skinny.
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Day 43 - I’ve been doing the stretches for a full week now and walking with crutches for a few days and my balance and strength in my legs is definitely coming back more and more each day. The only things that would be an issue in everyday life is stairs and I can’t walk long distances and I walk about half as fast as I used to, but I’d still be capable of doing things for myself.
Last week I could barely rotate my feet/ankle but it’s gotten a lot better, I can’t move my foot up towards me though which I think is normal, it causes pain in the front of my shins which is a result of the calves being tighter.
Day 44 - I can bend my toes downwards more than I could yesterday before I feel pain in my shin.
I can rotate my right ankle a lot better than my left but it’s my left leg that feels more sturdy and easier to walk on.
I feel like I’ve got a couple more aches and pains today but nothing major, just muscles getting tired from not being used properly I imagine.
I was just doing some of my exercises and when I went to do a squat (using crutches for balance) I felt/heard a slight crunch in my right leg where the shin bone was broken, I can still walk but it hurts a little. I’m confused with what could have been crunching as there’s a gap there and I doubt any bone has started forming so soon.
The pain from that crunch I felt earlier isn’t terrible, more like a bruise that someone’s pushing on and I only feel it if I lift my leg up though that makes walking a bit more annoying but not impossible.
Day 45 - That pain in my shin has gone away, I’ve been doing some more research to help with walking and am going to incorporate some exercises for my glutes and my core.
Just took a video of myself walking and I’ve got a bit of that ‘duck ass’ but it’s gotten better in the last week and I sway quite a bit in my upper body.
I’ve found this site and am going to pick out some exercises and see if they help my glutes.
The only ones any of us recovering from LL are likely to be able to do is the lunge stretch, side lying leg lift and maybe the single leg glute bridge though I’m going to change that one to starting with having both feet on the ground while I do it.
The lunge stretch is a bit tricky as it hurts my knees so I put a pillow under my knee but I’m also a bit wobbly doing that one.
Side lying leg lift is probably the best, it’s easy and you can feel it working your glutes.
Glute bridge is also easy though I don’t know for sure that I’m doing it right, I feel it more in my lower back than my glutes.
https://www.runnersworld.com/training/a20802578/glute-strengthening-workout/
I’m also going to do these exercises for my core. Planking and something called dead bug.
https://www.coachmag.co.uk/fitness/core-exercises
Planking is a bit hard to do but i think that just means it’s a good idea to do it.
Dead bug was a good one to do, very tiring but in a good way.
Might take a video of myself walking once a week to track my progress, I don’t want to upload them on here but if you want to message me we can sort out a way for me to show you.
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Buddy not once did you post x-ray, a pic of you, nor the fixatifs or the medication.
So at face value this is just wannabe-taller doing another scheme of marketing.
Also, Halil no longer works for them, so don't know how he did the surgery for you.
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Buddy not once did you post x-ray, a pic of you, nor the fixatifs or the medication.
So at face value this is just wannabe-taller doing another scheme of marketing.
Also, Halil no longer works for them, so don't know how he did the surgery for you.
I just don’t want to post personal stuff like pictures of me but I can post x-rays, I know the less evidence makes it look like a bit of a scam so if that puts people off so be it, doesn’t really affect me.
That’s what I thought as well but it was definitely him that I met and was told he was doing the surgery
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Right after surgery
https://imgur.com/a/5MCUrGU
8 days of lengthening
https://imgur.com/a/yzdkZF5
Right after fixator removal
https://imgur.com/a/JZXZ1de
I should be getting another X-ray soon to see how bone consolidation is
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I did those wrong, follow these links
https://imgur.com/a/7oQjmsD
https://imgur.com/a/oI2e41M
https://imgur.com/a/OMJtRHw
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Day 46 - As far as recovery goes I know my flexibility and joint movement is improving everyday so I’m not worried about that. The only thing I feel that could go wrong is non union though I’m hoping since there’s only a 2.5cm gap that may reduce the chance of that? I don’t know, I think everything is going as well as can be expected but I read things on the forum and it makes me second guess myself.
When trying to flex my toes up towards me I can only get my right foot to about 90 degrees so basically how it looks when standing. My left foot is a touch better and can flex upwards a little bit not much though.
My glutes and stomach feel more sore today so I guess that means I’m engaging them and they’re getting stronger.
Day 47 - I haven’t really been able to measure how far I walk but I think it’s probably only been 100-200m about 8 times a day. I’d like to start doing more but it’s hard with the coronavirus, I’m mostly stuck to walking up and down the halls of my hotel.
After I do my stretches and exercises I can walk fairly easy without crutches, I still sway around a lot and my butt sticks out but less so than if I don’t stretch.
Maybe in a week or two I can try move onto using one crutch.
Day 48 - The pain in my lower shin is so annoying when I wake up, it’s not super painful but it’s an inconvenience.
Getting back to my own country once the planes are operating again will be good, just to be in a familiar environment.
Haven’t walked much today, I fell asleep for a few hours and just went for a 20 minute walk to make up for it.
Took a few steps in front of the mirror before bed to check how straight my back/butt was and while the steps were awkward everything looked straight, I could feel my glutes really working though to keep it that way.
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My days are mostly the same now, just doing the stretches and walking around so I probably won’t post anything more until something significant happens.
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LOL at this diary, it is so fake it is laughable. How dumb does Wannabetaller think we are? This diary is clearly written by someone at Wannabetaller like an advertisement, even putting their name in the subject line and detailing their prices. Halil Buldu is not even listed as one of the doctors that collaborates with Wannabetaller on their own website. Many people can confirm this.
What Wannabetaller does is that they pretend that they cooperate with Halil Buldu to lure patients in, and after you paid for the surgery they lie through their teeth to persuade you to do the surgery with Özgur Karakoyun or Yuksel Yurttash instead. It is a classic bait and switch. Those two doctors are dangerously incompetent, yet Wannabetaller keep using them even after they hurt so many people. Profits before people, that is the motto of the unscrupulous people behind Wannabetaller.
@Olli170, if you already wrote the whole diary already like you said, why don't you post the whole thing instead of a few posts at a time? Because you want to keep this advertisement at the top of the forum, that is why.
Beware of Wannabetaller, to keep costs down, they not only set you up with cheap inexperienced and incompetent doctors, but also cut down on the amount of time spent in the operating room, so that surgeons have to rush through surgery. Plus they use badly designed and inferior Turkish-made hardware that fails easily. It is a recipe for disaster that have left many of their patients facing life-long problems.
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its confusing how so many people post diaries with DR HALIL and wannabetaller but DR HALIL is not on their website. he has moved to a new company called "livelifetaller" it looks. this is the 3rd company in turkey which offers packages for this procedure.
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LOL at this diary, it is so fake it is laughable. How dumb does Wannabetaller think we are? This diary is clearly written by someone at Wannabetaller like an advertisement, even putting their name in the subject line and detailing their prices. Halil Buldu is not even listed as one of the doctors that collaborates with Wannabetaller on their own website. Many people can confirm this.
What Wannabetaller does is that they pretend that they cooperate with Halil Buldu to lure patients in, and after you paid for the surgery they lie through their teeth to persuade you to do the surgery with Özgur Karakoyun or Yuksel Yurttash instead. It is a classic bait and switch. Those two doctors are dangerously incompetent, yet Wannabetaller keep using them even after they hurt so many people. Profits before people, that is the motto of the unscrupulous people behind Wannabetaller.
@Olli170, if you already wrote the whole diary already like you said, why don't you post the whole thing instead of a few posts at a time? Because you want to keep this advertisement at the top of the forum, that is why.
Beware of Wannabetaller, to keep costs down, they not only set you up with cheap inexperienced and incompetent doctors, but also cut down on the amount of time spent in the operating room, so that surgeons have to rush through surgery. Plus they use badly designed and inferior Turkish-made hardware that fails easily. It is a recipe for disaster that have left many of their patients facing life-long problems.
That was quite the essay chief. It’s not exactly uncommon for people to put the doctor and who they’ve worked with in the title so not sure what you’re on about there, I thought it was just basic common sense.
If you read the entirety of my diary you’ll see wannabetaller are barely; if at all, mentioned beyond that first post and the rest of it is about how it wasn’t an easy experience and I wouldn’t recommend doing it.
To everyone else reading I know this may sound crazy but if you do the surgery you don’t have to go through wannabetaller to do it if you don’t want to. Do your research on doctors, look for the good and bad reviews, make a decision for yourself and be safe.
As for how I had Dr Buldu I really don’t know how that happened and was probably more confused than anyone else about how that came to be.
I didn’t post the entire thing in one day because I was at the 1 month mark when I decided to post and thought it would be more convenient to post a few days at a time rather than an entire month so that people could read it at their leisure.
I understand yourself and a few others had a rough go of things and have every right to take action but my diary isn’t an advertisement, I was just bored and needed something to do during the lengthening stage and decided to write down my thoughts.
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As much as we hoped that our team Wannabetaller has helped and continues to help all those patients suffering from short stature and height related problems; we are being distracted by continuous defamation and verbal abuse by a couple of aggrieved patients who choose not to follow medical guidelines and rather than letting us and their doctor to find a solution to their problems; would rather engage in verbal defamation and lay fault without proof; whilst their grievances are still in the courts of law, which have not found any faulty practices, whatsoever, till date.
We have been the first and most experienced team in Turkey, providing and arranging limb lengthening surgery related services. We are not the “middlemen”, whose job is done once they redirect the patient to the doctor and get their payment. “Middlemen” are not in power to arrange every major and minor service and fulfill every single request of patient, who is going through tough things (we all know LL is a serious, painful and long procedure). However, throughout different times of our existence, we have always had people in our team who have had the surgery themselves, and know this surgery better than many people in this forum. Wannabetaller is a fully equipped and experienced team who is beside the patient from the very beginning of the procedure till the end. Those who have had this surgery themselves should know better how important it is to make pre-surgery and post-surgery arrangements, and that doctors on their own are not able to always be around and reach out whenever the patient needs help. In limb lengthening, everything does not end with a properly executed surgery. The post-surgery period is equally important. Moreover, the overwhelming majority of our patients (with very few exceptions) have been grateful for our assistance after they left Turkey or finished their procedure. These people have personally seen how important it is to have a caring team of people around.
Any patient knows that, apart from the surgery, the importance of pre and post-surgery care and arrangements; and the fact that doctors are not available all the time and thus we reach out whenever the patients need any help. With such a hard surgery as limb lengthening, all does not, usually, depend on the surgery itself; in fact the most important phases is the aftercare and recovery process. Despite a few of our aggrieved patients, our track records are clean and provide countless testimonial of happy and successful patients, after their departure from Turkey and the end of their recovery process. These patients stand fact to the importance of our care and comfort of our hospitable and welcoming team.
As for the patients operated by Dr. Halil Buldu, who is NOT one of our surgeons at the moment: We had a number of patients who had booked a surgery with Dr Halil, long before he and our team stopped cooperation. Does it mean the patient would not get the surgery with the doctor they want? Of course not. These patients had their surgery with the doctor they had booked.
How it can be possible to arrange the surgery with one doctor, then deceive the patient and invite another doctor to the surgery?
Is there a way or a purpose of actually doing this in medical practice without getting significant consequences?
This accusation is plainly baseless and defamatory, softly speaking. Also, does it mean whoever is advertising their services from Turkey is always Wannabetaller? That is simply a false accusation.
“Ollie” is and will continue to be our patient, till the very end of his procedure, no matter if his Doctor is Dr. Halil or not. He was one of the many patients who had totally refused to have his images taken and did not give permission for his information to being shared, the decision which we respect very deeply. We were actually surprised in a positive way, when we saw him sharing his experience here on the forum. Only when he made his diary public, we asked a permission to share this diary on our website as well. It is so disrespectful to blame an author of a genuine diary, while being in alliance with fake diary owners. Simply multiplying false accusation and complains with numerous fake accounts to wrongly defame WannaBeTaller, is a sad thing we hardly expect any of our patients to do but there are always exceptions, as we are ourself shocked to learn.
How can you think you have the rights to blame a person’s diary to be fake, and verbally assaulting him, while not having a single shred of evidence?
Also attacking the other diary (the one with nickname Jeraldo), which is true that we have created, with real images and real and correct information, only with the exception of our patients name to protect their privacy, what is wrong with that? The patient is facing pain and struggling, so we have written a diary on behalf of him with his permission. If there wasn’t such thing as patient privacy, we would very easily publicly prove to anyone who is interested in what is true and what is not, and whether the diaries are genuine or fake.
Moreover, who decides that all other diaries on this forum are 100% genuine? Maybe there is a genuinity detector plugin on the forum and we don’t know?
Finally, regarding the accusation that we stopped replying to our patients once they have trouble: In fact, reality is quite the opposite. We have always called and wrote to our patients, even when they never updated us on their progress for long periods of time. There have been a number of patients who got rid of their complications mainly thanks to the immense care, guidance and effort from our team. If not us, some of these people wouldn’t even know they have complication, or how to handle them, and would have much worse consequences. We made it easy for those patients to express themselves easily to their surgeons, to get minimal prices everywhere: hotel, hospital, x-ray imaging centre, taxi, restaurant etc. We have always intervened when needed: negotiated, offered solutions, helped to communicate, while some people had one thing in their mind: robbing our patients. Those who always stayed in communication with us and listened to us and mainly their doctors, got rid of their complications. But how it is possible to keep communication when the patient is not listening or accepting any of the offered solutions, not taking their own doctor’s opinion seriously, or prefers to threaten instead? It makes the communication impossible. It was never us who stopped communicating.
We would go on and on, but those who really want to know what and how we operate, can at least try to get into contact with us and we will do our best to set their mind at ease and prove them our honest work, spanning for years.
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i was extremely fit before surgery and did physio everyday and followed the guidlines, you absolutely sicken me! i am walking around now in pain after so many complications from ozgur and thousands of euros ,and extra surgeries to fix the complications he has caused me, and still to this day you advertise ozgur on your website as a experienced surgeon!
you call this defamation after i posted my xrays and supported it with evidence!. now i am walking around in extreme pain as the top of the nail is tearing my glutes. i have professional reports to prove negligence its just a shame it takes time before you will be sued and everyone will know the results.
several patients of dr giotiksas saw me go through rehab in greece after what you did to me and a couple of them lashed out at you on this forum to in disgust!
I will never ever forget what you done to me and now you right this bull ! i know exactly who is writing this and he said to me when i was having problems sorry we are just a medical tourism company, we are not responsible. take it up with dr ozgur
You are liars and you really fked me up, i will not forget or forgive you for this
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Wannabetaller, company. Company that makes money. It is in their best interest to appear professional to make $$$
Individual who complains about wannabe taller. What does he have to gain ? Money ? No, so I trust the consistent trend of people complaining about wannabetalller.
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I believe you seriouslyinjured. I hope your legs will be okay and that you will be able to bring down these turkish scammers.
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thanks snowpiecer, it sickens me how they right this crap above, 3 patients i have been in contact with one with permanent injury have told me about their pain and anguish and wannabe taller are boasting 2 succesful surgeries, and customer satisfaction. 1 which isn't even a doctor they use on their website!
Giotikas and Paley are examples of doctors that do a lot of surgeries and are well respected doctors in the LL community. wannabe tallers doctors have done no where near as many surgeries with high complication rate due to negligence and no one has even heard of their doctors, until now for the wrong reasons.
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i think wannebetaller is not safe choice. they are amateur. According to what I've heard, if something goes wrong, they won't help you. These are simple brokers who find accommodation and provide transportation for you. You don't need any of them. They demand a lot of money from people. Also i think their doctors aren't responsible enough . Also, I won't believe this diary is real until I see a few pictures and x-ray films.
Hey, please send us a x-ray film after your fixator removed. i want to see your 2.5 cm gap while your fixators removed.
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This has to be a joke. 2.5cm really. All the pain and cost of surgery for 2.5cm. But oh well believe what you believe.
Be careful of Wannabetaller. They are just out to get your money and have no regards for your legs nor life. I don’t know them but I did meet not one but two of their past clients whom got their legs messed up by their doctors. I can’t even say patients cause they are not doctors. They are just businessmen so you are their clients not patients.
Don’t fall for their trap people.
If they mess up your legs and you only have one shot at this, then what?
Imagine life without being able to walk or walking on crutches or being cripple for the rest of your life on one stupid decision. Being short is one thing being half a man is a whole different story.
Do your research, your legs and life depends on it!!!
This forum should ban wannabetaller and all their self promoting dairies.
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ban wanna be taller there is no room for scammers
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Hey Ollie how is the recovery going
Thnx
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As fake as f... Incredible the way your fake ollie posts, and then the wannabe taller team post because they could get thru fake ollie. So no no no no serious
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just go VIET NAM, tibias LON in my country only cost 15k for EVERYTHING. Simple, effective, and SAFE. I got the fixtator nails onto my tibias in 21st March, the journey has been great,
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Who knows how many doctors has WannaBeTaller changed? Do they change doctors every time they disable people? Then they can set aside all responsibility and evade compensation This money is too easy to earn, isn't it? There's no risk at all!
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WBT-WTF