Limb Lengthening Forum
Community Hangout => Off Topic => Topic started by: olivetree on January 11, 2014, 01:19:50 PM
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By popular request, here I is:) jk lol.
I actually initially came to get information on here and didn't want to write anything about my little journey. Afraid of possible backlash, outrage, etc etc. But truth be told I'm scared and lonely as f!ck over here and getting all my thoughts out to you lovely, understanding people I think will make me feel better. I miss home already and it's only day two. I've been spamming my ex(who I still live with in Japan)(he's the only one who knows) with large anxiety texts but he works a lot so the replies are too infrequent for me.
I got picked up at the airport by a young, kind faced Indian man named Shriq who drove with me in a taxi to the hotel in Super Mart. If this is the hotel everyone goes to at first, holy sh!t. Be warned. Idk, I don't think I'm high maintenance. Just a super clean western girl. There was a baby ckroach taking a pleasant stroll on the sheets when I first walked in. The heater didn't work so I was freezing my ass off all night. The bed itself smelled like an old Indian man slept on it last and they didn't wash the sheets. The bathroom looked like a wet janitors closet and I had to practice breath exercises before I went in there.
Shriq collected me at about 10:30 this morning. We drove for about 40 minutes to the hospital. Let me just say this, India is FREAKING INSANE. I'm trying really hard not to cuss on here lol. According to Shriq, there are no rules on the road, you just drive. Literally. Not 10 seconds go by that you don't hear loud obnoxious honking. I feared for my life a little, scraping next to cars. But tis the normalcy in good ol India. The only notices on the road are from the New Delhi police that read "Don't Drink and Drive" and "Go Slow. You aren't in a Race"(I had to stop myself from busting out laughing at that one) India itself is a lot dirtier and slummier than I pictured for a supposedly large metropolis and the air is smoky and literally smells like someone lit up a gigantic stick of incense.
Dr. Sarin: I only waited for about 10 minutes in the hospital to meet him. We went into a little room and the first thing he said to me, like all you guys, "What? You want shortening? Why?" No F's given, I was just put on the spot like that lol. It was kind of embarrassing and a shock since I've never really asked this question directly by a stranger before. But after a few moments of blubbering my answer he seemed to understand. The only recommendation he had for me was I not do my tibias because of the large scars, and on femurs they're easier to hide. I was aware of this of course, but I asked him where they'd go. One on the upper shin to cut the bone, one by the knee to insert the rod, and a couple small ones near the bottom to insert the screws. So no frames like I expected which was good. (Apparently for 4cm and above he would most likely use frames for extra support). I resigned with tibias though because they're already longish, and I'm self conscious about my thighs as it is. If I did femurs I would be allll tibia, and thats not cute lol. With determination, scars can heal. Plus I'm from Washington so I'm covering my legs 80% of the time.
I went on to ask him about complications. He said there really weren't any, aside from limited mobility at first and that wherever you shorten it's gonna be a little bit bulkier than before for the first 6 months.
As for the Doc himself, I know he's been under a pretty bad light lately, and I can't speak for those who've had problems, but like BigFaker said, ain't got sh!t to do with me. Especially me. I pictured in my head a cold, monotone a**hole but what I got was kind of a bubbly grandpa.
Gossip!: I asked about the brother and sister everyone was mentioning before and how they were doing, specifically the brother who he just did. He said he's doing well and very happy, then gave me a small smile. I believed him.(what a relief for Sarin right?! To be able to say that a patient was actually happy with what he did to them! lol) And THEN he said that the sister was about to get her surgery next week. I was like "what?! she's coming again?" He said that she was already here and getting it on her femurs this time. Cray cray! He said that they came separately these last two times, something about them living together and one of them needed to be home to work and take care of stuff. Sounds like they're more like husband and wife than siblings. Idk why he even told me all these deets. Weird stuff.
But I was relieved to conclude that she was happy enough with the first surgery to actually come back to India and have it again. That's a good sign, right?!
Accommodation: So surprisingly he said that after surgery I'll be placed into a nearby hotel where I'll be assisted 24/7 with maids and a physio. I was a little disappointed I'll admit because I was looking forward to the company of other cripples going through similar ordeals that I could talk to(curb the depression, ya know?). But I think this is because of what BigFaker said about Sarin wanting to eventually get rid of the guesthouse altogether and have everyone in hotels that are on this plan they have with the hospital. And since I'm doing LS there is less of a need for constant care. I told Sarin about my ty hotel and that I would happily pay out of pocket for a nicer one so he arranged for Shriq to take me. Totally worth it! Clean, warm, HBO channel... haha. If the hotel I'll be staying at next is anything like this, I'll take it over a drab guesthouse. Even better if that girl is there!
Anyway, test and X-rays on Monday, surgery on Tuesday. After getting out a couple cries, eating some bomb kathi rolls, playing Watchmen in the background and writing this all out, I feel a lot better. Thanks guise :3
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Wow. You are actually doing it. Good luck with that.
Hehe, so they didn't come in pairs this time ;D Sweet.
Give my best to Dr Sarin.
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so wheres your background?
your story that lead to this procedure?
your height, age?
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Yo girl -)
I say dont you care about others, hust do what will make you feel good.
And be careful !
I want to know how it goes, please keep updating.
PS : i will not do LS because im already a Hobbit yo ;D
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You go girl! I think you're incredibly brave to follow your dreams and go to India on your own to have this surgery. I hope it all goes as smoothly as possible. And thanks for all the info about your experience. With all the Sarin drama flying around, it's notice to get a report from someone who's unbiased and not part of the whole fiasco. Please keep updating this page! The information you're posting on here about Dr. Sarin is invaluable and goes a tremendous length (no pun intended) to help others. Best of luck, and take care!
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Good luck olivetree! I'm excited to read your experience, stay safe and keep updating us when you're bored. :)
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so wheres your background?
your story that lead to this procedure?
your height, age?
Good questions! I should probably throw all that in so people get a better understanding of where I'm coming from, and I'm not just some nutzo like Sweden implies ::)
I'm 22. Weight is about 112 lbs. Height is 5'6''. Mainly when I get measured I'm 166cm, which is about 5'5.5''. The reason for this is because ever since I was first measured at 5'6'' when I was 16(?) I was really mad and slouched just a tad bit every measuring after that. I don't stand up straight. And I get away with it. Funny thing is after they're done they usually say "you look much taller."
My mom and my sisters are short. My big sister is 5'4, little sister 5'3 I think, and my mom is a tiny 5'1 Puerto Rican. My dad is a 5'9 white guy. So I have no idea where this genetic vertical boost comes from. Even the women in my extended family are shorter than me. I was always regarded as the tall niece, tall sister, tall daughter, with their big laughs and smiles... And it all felt really condescending. Like I was some freak. I think this contributed to my introverted, shy personality. I felt awkward around other people, like I was the long stick that just stuck out.
I had a small eating disorder phase in high school to lose weight because I believed that if I was skinny I would look shorter. I'm not like that anymore but I still have strict eating habits. I simply prefer the looks of small framed petite girls over tall, broad girls. Thats just my opinion. Because of all the comments aimed toward me I associated being tall with being BIG. I didn't want to be big, NO girl wants that label. Sometimes I even found myself walking next to my short friends with my knees bent to try and match up to them a bit(not attractive, let me tell you). Whenever I was around someone who was significantly taller than me is when I felt the most comfortable and happy. It's just how I'm wired and I can't explain it. Like how drags feel beautiful dressed up as a woman I felt beautiful when I felt short (bad metaphor? lol).
I remember once in high school me and my best friend were driving around with this guy. She was flirting and being a little obnoxious and the guy says "you're the smallest one in this car and the loudest." How is she the smallest?! She was chubbier than me by far. But because she was like, an inch or so shorter than me she's considered the small one. Comments like that haunted me for hours and always put me in a ty mood. Stupid, retarded things like "can you reach up their for me? I'm too tiny to get it. teheheh", "giraffe", "I though you were like, 6 foot when I met you", "you should model", and countless other things that are hard to mention INSTANTLY ruined my day. Not bashing models, tall or "big" women, as they are beautiful in their own way. But I'm definitely not a model and don't desire to be one. I'm an awkward silly b!tch. Being "tall" too just didn't sit right. And I don't think it's wrong that I chose to recreate my own way.
Don't get me wrong. I do get "tiny" and "little" comments, but I know they're just talking about my weight. By the end of this I'll be 3 cm shorter, a nice 5'4''. So I won't be on that mind consuming cusp anymore. I'll be normal and I'll finally be able to just be me:)
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Yo girl -)
I say dont you care about others, hust do what will make you feel good.
And be careful !
I want to know how it goes, please keep updating.
PS : i will not do LS because im already a Hobbit yo ;D
Maybe I'll ask Sarin to donate my bones to you.. lol!
You go girl! I think you're incredibly brave to follow your dreams and go to India on your own to have this surgery. I hope it all goes as smoothly as possible. And thanks for all the info about your experience. With all the Sarin drama flying around, it's notice to get a report from someone who's unbiased and not part of the whole fiasco. Please keep updating this page! The information you're posting on here about Dr. Sarin is invaluable and goes a tremendous length (no pun intended) to help others. Best of luck, and take care!
Thank you so much! It's definitely a life experience and tbh I'm still tripping balls I'm actually doing this. I'll keep in mind to study this guy hard for you shorties.
Good luck olivetree! I'm excited to read your experience, stay safe and keep updating us when you're bored. :)
:) for sure!
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Your story is more understandable to me than some people who want LL!
I think the problem also exists because you came from a short background and culture, and were used to others being shorter than you. For a lot of us, it's the opposite, we come from a tall background and are used to others towering over us. Your insecurities have driven you to this point, and the only solution you see to your problem is having a height reduction, because changing people's opinions around you sure isn't an option.
See, LL and LS are not so different!
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Maybe I'll ask Sarin to donate my bones to you.. lol!
Mmm why not, i just hope i don't end up with bones in my butt.
And then Sarin will be like "NOOoooo problem", "Don'ttttt worry" etc.
Just kidding
Puerto Rican, now thats interesting ::)
Como estas senorita ?
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Your story is more understandable to me than some people who want LL!
I think the problem also exists because you came from a short background and culture, and were used to others being shorter than you. For a lot of us, it's the opposite, we come from a tall background and are used to others towering over us. Your insecurities have driven you to this point, and the only solution you see to your problem is having a height reduction, because changing people's opinions around you sure isn't an option.
See, LL and LS are not so different!
Spot on, BD! They really aren't. People are just so blinded with the mainstream idea that taller is better. And for some people it is but not everyone feels that way:)
Mmm why not, i just hope i don't end up with bones in my butt.
And then Sarin will be like "NOOoooo problem", "Don'ttttt worry" etc.
Just kidding
Puerto Rican, now thats interesting ::)
Como estas senorita ?
BAHAHAH! I have yet to hear those words from him. If I do I'll probably think of this and have a fit.
Muy bien!!
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So I didn't think today would be all that interesting. I was actually warring with myself over whether or not I should go explore outside. I don't want to stay inside a comfy hotel days before going under the knife just cause I'm a wuss. After all, when's the next time I'll be back in India?
Anyway, I get a call from downstairs that Dr. Sahil was here for me. I sent him up, kind of surprised. He said that he was Sarin's financial manager. I've read about him before so I knew who he was. Very polite guy. We talked about payments and then offered to take me to the guest house to have a look around... "Uh, what? lulz." I told him Sarin said I would be in the accommodation hotel. He was pretty sure that noo, I wouldn't be. He also told me my surgery would be tomorrow! Scurrry! I don't even get that extra day I was promised to contemplate my sorry life, lol. So too late to go back now. Better to get this over quick anyway, like a band-aid I guess.
I asked him if he could ask Sarin about this for confirmation. So he called him for me on his phone and let me talk to him to ask about the surgery. He said yes, tests and everything would be happening tomorrow. He then said I would be in the patient hotel because most of the patients at the guesthouse are leg lengtheners and apparently they've gotten upset before being around a shortener. I've never read anything about this on the diaries so maybe someone on here can verify if this is true.(If it is then HA.HA. Really guys? Why can't we all just get along? :P) So I was like "okay, can you tell him that?" I handed the phone back, the misunderstanding was settled, and Sahil asked if I wanted to see the hotel. So we went.
It was a lot like the first one I stayed in:/ maybe a smiiidge nicer. For this it's $1000 a month, which is around how long I'd be staying. I DO have the option of staying at the nice hotel I'm at now, but of course I'd be paying more than that, on top of food, laundry etc.. It was completely up to me. I initially was quoted $2000 for accommodation by Sarin in the emails, so I was prepared to pay that anyway. However, saving an extra 1k sounds really attractive. I'm already in debt for all this as it is. Not really in a position to be choosy, so suck it up I must!
After that he took me to a cute little market, so I actually ended up exploring a little. Yay! :) Bought some snacks and a couple sweet alcohol drinks to try. (I'm kind of a wino, so I've been salivating for a drink since getting here. Don't judge me lol) If you're smart about your surroundings and know the places to go, India really isn't that scary of a place the internet sometimes makes it out to be.
I'll let you guys know how the surgery goes. If I don't die that is ;) buenos noches Chiquitos.
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Nobody ever had a problem being around shorteners. It was the siblings that had a huge problem with exactly everything.
They ended up suffering real bad from isolation and made up stories that the patients were spreading rumors about them. Then eventually they snapped just like everyone on the first floor was afraid of. I have a great video of them freaking out in my room! ;D
One of the patients on our floor was a doctor and he used to lock his door bc he was so afraid of them. He predicted that they would eventually freak out.
The brother wanted to beat me when he came in to the room. Too bad he didn't try. It would have been cool to slap his sorry ass :D
It would be nice to know your feelings around this surgery and what experiences you face.
I'm especially interested if you become super flexible, like Chloe Bruce (Google.)
Are you allowed to have a diary?
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Sweden,
If I give you my email address, would you be able to send the video to me? Lol.
P.S: Olivetree, good luck! ;)
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Ah ah "The brother wanted to beat me", were they two zombies siblings or what ?
Ok i googled "Chloe Bruce Lee" mmm now thats interesting....
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs49/i/2009/218/c/0/Chloe_Bruce_Kick_Off_3_by_SifuEagle.jpg)
I think Sweden is REALLY interested in your flexibility ::).
Good luck linda...olive tree (??? :o)
Everything is going to be fine :D
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Sweden,
If I give you my email address, would you be able to send the video to me? Lol.
P.S: Olivetree, good luck! ;)
I, too, would like to see this video. Upload it to YouTube or a fast file-hosting website like Putlocker. http://www.putlocker.com/ (http://www.putlocker.com/)
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I, too, would like to see this video. Upload it to YouTube or a fast file-hosting website like Putlocker. http://www.putlocker.com/ (http://www.putlocker.com/)
MEGA.co.nz works very well for sharing large files also.
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+1 for Sweden's video!
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I asked for the video since those idiots are Turkish.. I could have translated what they were saying :D
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They speak English in the video.
You can clearly see both their faces so it wouldn't be appropriate to show it.
It goes on for 40 minutes ;D
They just stand there and a total fool out of them selves.
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It was a lot like the first one I stayed in:/ maybe a smiiidge nicer. For this it's $1000 a month, which is around how long I'd be staying. I DO have the option of staying at the nice hotel I'm at now, but of course I'd be paying more than that, on top of food, laundry etc.. It was completely up to me. I initially was quoted $2000 for accommodation by Sarin in the emails, so I was prepared to pay that anyway. However, saving an extra 1k sounds really attractive. I'm already in debt for all this as it is. Not really in a position to be choosy, so suck it up I must!
Hey Whassup, Mizz olivetree,
I'm surprised they are not able to get you a better deal on a hotel. When I had to bridge the 4 nights between my original hotel (Ramada Gurgaon, booked myself) and the hospital stay, Sunny got me a very nice and clean place for 2000INR/night (bout $32, so a month = $960ish). Granted, it was not full room and board, but it included breakfast and I was only a solo for a few nights. You would think Sahil/Sarin would use some group buying power to negotiate better rates....assuming they are not factoring caretakers and PT in the $1000.
I'll let you guys know how the surgery goes. If I don't die that is ;) buenos noches Chiquitos.
[Assuming you might get to read this before going under]
Good luck. I'm sure everything will go fine. IMHO, India's nurses (or "sisters" at my hospital) are not nearly as caring/friendly/sweet/kind as the ones in the US, but they do their jobs well. You just have to make sure they understand what you are asking for and keep asking them until you get it. I was hampered by no internet...Google Translate would have helped a LOT.
Also, paperwork is a WAAAAY sketchy compared to the reams of contracts and waivers and disclaimers one has to sign in America. They didn't even ask me for any Emergency contact info back home. I had to ask for a scrap of paper literally while I was on the gurney in pre-op. Again, I''m sure it won't be necessary, but (if you need the peace of mind as I did): if they don't ask, you have to press for it. I actually had to make them promise me they would give the paper to my doc.
Wishing you all the best.....
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It's not cool to send a video of others without asking.
Maybe you could blur their faces with a software but its still not good.
An audio track maybe ?
Please release the "Turkish Twin" remix 8)
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It goes on for 40 minutes ;D
They just stand there and a total fool out of them selves.
Since you were around them do you know why the 6'3" guy wanted leg shortening?
Did you think they would have improved proportions with shorter legs?
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Since you were around them do you know why the 6'3" guy wanted leg shortening?
Did you think they would have improved proportions with shorter legs?
I visited them a lot and we spoke about everything in the beginning, even on the phone and some text messages.
There were absolutely nothing wrong with their height. Not even if you consider all of the possible made up social rules(as there is for short guys).
It was just all in their head and for what reason I can not imagine. They told me they both were bullied all of their life so that could be something that contributed to it. They got shorter bc they had to find an excuse for why they were bullied. That's just my idea.
But the fact was that she definitely couldn't behave among other people. Not even on old forum where she thought everyone was out to disrespect her.
She totally snapped in our floor and the brother was just the same. He was bothered when I said "hello" to him while I was working out in the sun and he just walked by.
Now that says a lot about a person.
He also wanted to fight me when I was in frames bc of something he and his sister both made up in their loneliness.
The guy was like my dream height but skinny as a small little girl and the sister was my starting height but actually fat.
They absolutely didn't need the surgery.
Everyone who is not suffering from some kind of disease is already proportionate.
I don't think anyone could see if they cut 5cm from their legs and arms as they said they would.
In conclusion: I just think they were mentally unstable.
If they're happier now being shorter I'm glad.
Still waiting for their book they said they should write. There has to be some unimaginable stories to why they did it :D
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the sister was my starting height but actually fat.
Everyone who is not suffering from some kind of disease is already proportionate.
I don't think anyone could see if they cut 5cm from their legs and arms as they said they would.
Wasn't the girl 5'10" to start with? I could see that height as being a slight disadvantage in dating but nothing substantial.
I agree but there is still a range of normal proportions and I would think on the extremes that you would not look as good as if you were more towards the average. There are people who do LL for the sole purpose of having improved proportions and do not care about their height. I would think there are also others with crazy long legs that might look better with shorter legs.
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Ah ah "The brother wanted to beat me", were they two zombies siblings or what ?
Ok i googled "Chloe Bruce Lee" mmm now thats interesting....
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs49/i/2009/218/c/0/Chloe_Bruce_Kick_Off_3_by_SifuEagle.jpg)
I think Sweden is REALLY interested in your flexibility ::).
Good luck linda...olive tree (??? :o)
Everything is going to be fine :D
Damn Sweden looks like you got everyone hot and bothered over this video :p wish I could see it!
OMG. Claude!! Lmfao! Your crack me up. Sweden gross no! Lol. I'm not that flexible now and probably won't ever be unless I invest in some extreme yoga.
Hey Whassup, Mizz olivetree,
I'm surprised they are not able to get you a better deal on a hotel. When I had to bridge the 4 nights between my original hotel (Ramada Gurgaon, booked myself) and the hospital stay, Sunny got me a very nice and clean place for 2000INR/night (bout $32, so a month = $960ish). Granted, it was not full room and board, but it included breakfast and I was only a solo for a few nights. You would think Sahil/Sarin would use some group buying power to negotiate better rates....assuming they are not factoring caretakers and PT in the $1000.
[Assuming you might get to read this before going under]
Good luck. I'm sure everything will go fine. IMHO, India's nurses (or "sisters" at my hospital) are not nearly as caring/friendly/sweet/kind as the ones in the US, but they do their jobs well. You just have to make sure they understand what you are asking for and keep asking them until you get it. I was hampered by no internet...Google Translate would have helped a LOT.
Also, paperwork is a WAAAAY sketchy compared to the reams of contracts and waivers and disclaimers one has to sign in America. They didn't even ask me for any Emergency contact info back home. I had to ask for a scrap of paper literally while I was on the gurney in pre-op. Again, I''m sure it won't be necessary, but (if you need the peace of mind as I did): if they don't ask, you have to press for it. I actually had to make them promise me they would give the paper to my doc.
Wishing you all the best.....
Bigfaker! Hi! I was actually trying to see your diary today but I guess it really is true sysop banned the IP address of not just the guesthouse but the hospital too. Loser.
PT and caretakers are included in that price for the standard patient hotel. When I first asked about switching to a nicer one he asked me how much I was willing to pay. I said about $60 but the hotel ended up being around $55. So not bad for 2 nights. But still not as good as what they're offering for a month.
You're right about this, however turning on my charm and being in a pitiful state has made me comfortable with them and they me. They even called me "so sweet and cute!" Hehe. But can I ask w.t.f is up with the no gloves thing? They seem to only wanna wear them when they wash me or dump my pee. The sanitation standards here are so lax compared to the states. I'm so used to everything disinfected and extreme medical safety procedures. I asked for a bandaid after they took my blood(my least favorite thing to do in the world) and their simple answer was "no need" and used their bare hands to throw away my bloody cottonball. Kinda like there's "no need" for backseat seat belts.
There was actually quite a few papers I had to sign. The last one being my consent for about going under a complex procedure at my own risk. I had to fill out and sign two of these and both had an emergency contact information at the bottom. Thank God. That's terrible they didn't provide that for you. What would they have done if you died? Threw you out on a dirt pile under a bridge in Gurgaon?
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So I'm here at the hospital. Pre op was completely terrifying to me. Just laying there all alone about to screw yourself up and not really know the consequences. The nurses had to take off all my nail polish too which kind of annoyed me since I just did them. The operating room itself is enough to scare the bejesus out of you. It's all very primitive and old, so not like the modern machinery used in the states. After I went under I had the freakiest dreams too. Almost like I was role playing what was happening. I woke up just as I heard "ok done" and shifted me to a gurney. What I felt next was the worst pain I've felt in a while. My legs just totally sore and throbbing. I told everyone this and they pumped me with drugs, drugs and more drugs. The pain was still there though and it was puzzling the docs. Idk I think I may have a tolerance to medication from years of abusing it(lol). I was literally shaking and on the verge of crying because of the pain, but eventually everything kicked in and I fell asleep. The day after was all medicated so I was zonked out and sleepy most of the day. But at nighttime there was severe pain in my right leg and I was having a nervous breakdown thinking it was compartment syndrome. I was crying and being dramatic and three doctors had to come in and calm me down to prove to me that I didn't have compartment. One of them in particular was kind of being a prick although he was helpful. Acting like I was being stupid. They had me down at 5.0 for the epidural when I was at 6.0 before, so that was probably it. They bumped it back up to 6.0 after my fit and gave me more drugs to put me to sleep. This morning I was still numb and okay, but then the doctor that lowered it before lowered it again to 4.0! Which I knew would be a bad idea, but apparently they have to gradually reduce the dosage so I can eventually come off of it and ditch the catheter too. My pain tolerance is not what I expected it to be. I had to have it raised again today to 6.0. Sarin has so far come in to see me once a day and it's very brief. I see more of the other docs who come in to check my pain and make sure I can wiggle my toes, which are numb and swelling a little from the epidural. I asked one of the nice assistant docs how long it took the other two shorteners to be pain free and he said 3 or 4 days. It's only day 2 for me so maybe I'm being a baby. He also confirmed my thoughts about this procedure being more painful the days post op in the hospital than leg lengthening. You guys get the worst of it during distraction.
The psychological struggle of all this is very real. I'm isolated in my room for hours at a time. My tv doesn't have any signal but I don't care to call anyone to fix it cause I'd be watching foreign channels I don't understand. I've cried a few times from the pain and just questioning the absurdity of having to put myself through this hell.
The food is pretty good and healthy for strong bones but it's hard for me to muster up an appetite with all this pain. I think the cooks think I don't like it because they always ask me if it's okay. Makes me feel bad. The nurses take care of me but in a very indifferent way. Some are sweeter and more careful than others.
Tomorrow they are officially reducing my epidural dosage to 5.0 and gradually lower after that. It's 6.0 and I'm still feeling pain. I think most of it is traveling to my right leg now than my left. They have other meds for me to curb the pain but they want me off the epidural soon. I'm terrified the pain won't subside. I blame myself a bit because I was kind of a smoker before, which hinders healing significantly. I used to smoke about 6 or so a day but weeks before coming here I've lowered it to 2.
So mostly time has consisted of boredom and pain. I'm praying it let's up so I can start working on my mobility. Everything from the ass down is numb and useless and it's making me mad. So pray for me guys! I'm confident in the doctors' words I'm just not confident in myself or my body at the moment. It's all a learning experience!
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Ill pray for you even if im an agnostic :)
Try to work your flexibility yo, but don't send pics to Sweden, its a trap :P
Seriously flexibility is very important ::)
Its a very hard and good experience indeed
Stay strong cutie 8)
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Before you know it, you'll be at that height you've always wanted to be. Keep fighting. :)
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"I'm not that flexible now and probably won't ever be unless I invest in some extreme yoga"
What do you mean by "extreme yoga" ? Can you show me please :'(
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hello Olivetree , hope everything is going well with you..
I though you were like, 6 foot when I met you", "you should model", and countless other things that are hard to mention INSTANTLY ruined my day
Really..? I always think this could be compliment ..
to tell the truth my best friend is 170-168cm, and I used to make fun of her because of her height, I know that I was bad person and so on.. but I had this thing I don't know what they call it which is combination of jealousy and self defense by attacking others for being insecure about yourself..
I even convinced her that she should not wear heels in her life, and she has very tiny chance with dating men "surprisingly, other girls were 100% agree with me" .. and whenever I felt bad for her I used to tell her that she is look like model.. Now that I know that this is wasn't compliment I feel that I'm really awful.. I may buy for her pair of heels when I'll go back to home...
anyway.. your height is really amazing.. but if you think you'll feel much better about your life after this surgery then just go for it "obviously you did" and stay strong ..
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These shady sisters lowered my epidural to 3.0 JUST as I was falling asleep:/ I woke up twice with pain. They gave me a pain killer which helped slightly. I just had to practice that mind over matter trick to help me sleep. It's 10 am now and I'm still at 3.0. It's a throbbing, dull burning pain but bearable I guess. Tonight I'm gonna be off the epidural for good and pain meds will be intravenous thru my hand.
My feet are still numb and I can barely move my big toes back and forth. One of the docs says that they'll go back to normal after the epidural is gone. I hope so. I keep bugging him with all my fears and worries and he just laughs and says "can't you ever think of anything happy? You're okay!" So I guess I should just chillax, otherwise I'm gonna kill my legs with stress. :-X
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hello Olivetree , hope everything is going well with you..
Really..? I always think this could be compliment ..
to tell the truth my best friend is 170-168cm, and I used to make fun of her because of her height, I know that I was bad person and so on.. but I had this thing I don't know what they call it which is combination of jealousy and self defense by attacking others for being insecure about yourself..
I even convinced her that she should not wear heels in her life, and she has very tiny chance with dating men "surprisingly, other girls were 100% agree with me" .. and whenever I felt bad for her I used to tell her that she is look like model.. Now that I know that this is wasn't compliment I feel that I'm really awful.. I may buy for her pair of heels when I'll go back to home...
anyway.. your height is really amazing.. but if you think you'll feel much better about your life after this surgery then just go for it "obviously you did" and stay strong ..
Thanks, Disobedient:) I too had that kind of problems from short girls making me feel inferior to them. I'm not sure if they were cky about their petite stature or if they were jealous of me. Either way it really messed me up.
Good luck on your crazy journey too!
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Bigfaker! Hi! I was actually trying to see your diary today but I guess it really is true sysop banned the IP address of not just the guesthouse but the hospital too. Loser.
I'll PM you about this.
And actually, I only found your story 'cause a friend told me some of the conspiracy nerds were talking ish about me over here. So I signed up and...I guess I popped my LL Forum ch*rry on your diary. Damn...that's hella rude, huh?....oh well, you knew I was a vulgar muthaf*cka, anyway :P
You're right about this, however turning on my charm and being in a pitiful state has made me comfortable with them and they me. They even called me "so sweet and cute!" Hehe. But can I ask w.t.f is up with the no gloves thing? They seem to only wanna wear them when they wash me or dump my pee. The sanitation standards here are so lax compared to the states. I'm so used to everything disinfected and extreme medical safety procedures. I asked for a bandaid after they took my blood(my least favorite thing to do in the world) and their simple answer was "no need" and used their bare hands to throw away my bloody cottonball. Kinda like there's "no need" for backseat seat belts.
Know what else is weird? The hospital hierarchy. You remember how nurses in the US will do pretty much anything that needs to be done?: help cleaning up messes, bring you coffee, talk to you when you're upset, all the way up to injecting meds? Here, it seemed like the sisters couldn't even pick up a piece of trash that fell on the ground -- RIGHT in the middle of the floor -- because it was not their job. They always left it for the cleaning guys...almost like a carryover from the caste system.
My feet are still numb and I can barely move my big toes back and forth. One of the docs says that they'll go back to normal after the epidural is gone. I hope so. I keep bugging him with all my fears and worries and he just laughs and says "can't you ever think of anything happy? You're okay!" So I guess I should just chillax, otherwise I'm gonna kill my legs with stress. :-X
The psychological struggle of all this is very real. I'm isolated in my room for hours at a time. My tv doesn't have any signal but I don't care to call anyone to fix it cause I'd be watching foreign channels I don't understand. I've cried a few times from the pain and just questioning the absurdity of having to put myself through this hell.
Yeah, definitely just stay calm, remember you have a goal, and are working toward it. I have definitely run into patients who might be messing themselves up with extreme negativity. Hey, here's a pick-me-up for you (though you are undoubtedly too young to know this cheesy 80s song). It cracks me up to think of the lyrics literally (as a patient):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUDcTLaWJuo
Anyway, hit me up if you need any India tips. I may not have been here that long, but I have a pretty good survey going on which food takeout joints are decent. Besides, we Uhmurrkins abroad need to stick together! :)
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Know what else is weird? The hospital hierarchy. You remember how nurses in the US will do pretty much anything that needs to be done?: help cleaning up messes, bring you coffee, talk to you when you're upset, all the way up to injecting meds? Here, it seemed like the sisters couldn't even pick up a piece of trash that fell on the ground -- RIGHT in the middle of the floor -- because it was not their job. They always left it for the cleaning guys...almost like a carryover from the caste system.
I actually didn't see too much of this? The cleaning people were ladies and nurses actually helped them make my bed and stuff. Like I said i think my hospital pwned yours ;) But about the tv watching I noticed they ALL get distracted by it lol!
Yeah, definitely just stay calm, remember you have a goal, and are working toward it. I have definitely run into patients who might be messing themselves up with extreme negativity. Hey, here's a pick-me-up for you (though you are undoubtedly too young to know this cheesy 80s song). It cracks me up to think of the lyrics literally (as a patient):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUDcTLaWJuo
Anyway, hit me up if you need any India tips. I may not have been here that long, but I have a pretty good survey going on which food takeout joints are decent. Besides, we Uhmurrkins abroad need to stick together! :)
HAHAHA I'm actually pretty partial toward 80's anything but I admit never heard this song before.
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Okay people brace yourselves. It's about to get real sexy up in here.
(http://i.imgur.com/83nlgsH.jpg?1)
Okay my legs are NOT that big, for the record. I have been swelled up since surgery, so about 6 days now. Plus take into account my leg insides are all 1 inch mushed up. I haven't visibly seen a reduction but I know its going down, slowly but surely. My right foot is reminiscent of an obese woman's, and it's extremely uncomfortable to put any kind of pressure on it. As you can see my left foot is less swollen but it's tipped over to the right. I have no idea for this and have been trying to correct it while I sleep. I think it all has to do with the swelling though.
(http://i.imgur.com/orFgTJP.jpg?1)
Yuck. That little nick is from the first night I went full blown spastic and took a razor to my dressings because they felt too tight. I didn't even feel it lol and the nurse looked scared.
The incisions are really not as bad as I pictured. Some are better looking than others by far but overall very minimally invasive. The staples were put in pretty crudely though. They're starting to itch under the bandages and I think that means they're healing yay! Still another week till they come out.
As much as I hated being at the hospital I was actually starting to get used to it and now I miss being there. I just hate hospitals in general. But the bed was comfier than the one I have now, the tv was better, I was forced to eat, if I dropped something or needed something across the room all I had to do was summon a nurse by the click of the button. The two girls who did the night shift during the week were my favorite (Uh but totally have no idea what there names were). Everyone else I hated. The day before I left they were trying to change my IV catheter in my hand to the other one cause it was starting to swell and hurt and risked getting an infection. It was for pain meds but I insisted I didn't need them and could bear through the light pain there was during the night. In my mind getting a needle poked through your vein is worse than a night full of LS pain. They kept bugging me to do it though and insisted it would just be once.
These bitches stabbed my veins 3 times, unsuccessful. After the third f-ed up try I could feel the panic rise in my chest and I couldn't help but start bawling and just said 'No' really firmly. They left me alone after that.
I'm at the hotel now where I guess eventually everyone will be going along with the other ones like it. It just looks like a big house. It probably looks like the guesthouse inside. My room is drab but alright I suppose. Solid 3/5 for India. The place reeks of Indian food though and not the good kind lol. Its cold in here too but you have to ask for a space heater and they'll bring you one. I didn't know this the last time. The beds uncomfortable and no sheets but what can ya do. The thing that really sucks about being here though is I can't. f**king. walk. And I'm alone. No maids or anyone to help me, and I'm not asking the dudes that work here to do anything. I have to slide onto a chair off my bed and attempt to wheel my ass across the room using only my spaghetti arms. My guns is seriously bout to be buff as fuq. I got a little phone from Dr. Sahil and he told me to tell the dudes here to get me whatever I wanted which is kind of weird to me since they're just staff at a hotel and don't work directly with Sarin. I guess this is normal behavior though because when I brought this up Sahil just simply said, "so what?" lmao.
I'm gonna use this to get me some fruits though. I know I should be eating more but I'm trying to save cheddar. Breakfast is free but everything else you pay for. Apparently the guest house provides dinner but last night they brought me some godawful chicken leg curry soup thing that was not appealing even if I wasn't a vegetarian. I normally only eat twice a day with snacks in between anyway but I know I should be having more balanced meals to help my leggys :-\
Anyway I'm bored of writing lol. Just trying to give everyone an idea of what it's gonna be like post-guesthouse. And hopefully this reaches any potential leg shorteners lurking the interwebz:) I know I wish I had someone to guide me through this.
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omfg! Totes forgot to show you guys my epic, nacrapy, battle bruises!
(http://i.imgur.com/eSOC2Xb.jpg?1)
Look at that bad boy. It's splotched darker underneath the knees too. Which btw I can only bend about halfway. In due time my friends!
My cute hot pink hospital bracelet before surgery and manicured nails may they RIP.
(http://i.imgur.com/b8yFYysl.jpg)
Yummy alcohol drank. Had to loosen up the night before the massacre.
(http://i.imgur.com/9oYA1DM.jpg?1)
;D
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I wore the pink hospital bracelet for 3 months. It became brown......
So now you're 5'6??
How loose does your tendons and muscle feel?
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I wore the pink hospital bracelet for 3 months. It became brown......
Mmm what did you do with your bracelet, i have an idea, maybe you were eating some chocolate with it...OR... you put your hands were you shouldn't...HA HA!
Ok thats not funny i know.
Wow girl you are so badass ! 8)
Looks like it hurts...
Stay strong Olivator 8)
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Haha gross! I wanted to keep mine but they cut it before I even had a chance to object.
No I'm about 5'4".5-5'5" now. Maybe less when I go back home from spine compression? How long does that usually last for you guys? I haven't had a chance to see myself at my height yet since I'm disabled at the moment.
My tendons and muscles feel really nasty! If that's in fact what I'm feeling grinding around in there. Almost whenever I moved something's cracking or rubbing. Does that go away? My legs just feel tight. When I poke them they're really hard too. Hawt.
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Fudge "cracking", just thinking about it hurts me :'(
Well maybe "Dr" Sweden can tell you if its normal.
To me it seems perfectly normal after such trauma for your sweet legs.
So you were a little Japanese in your ancient life ?
I looove silly questions 8)
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Yes, minus their fake happy attitudes and the raw fish lol. I love their clothes! And I definitely fit in with the "kawaii" craze <3
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I must say i find their culture kind of stupid :-\
Kawai rocks thought... im "Kawai" you know, just sayin ::)
Stay strong, eat well, sleep, please keep us informed 8)
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Okay people brace yourselves. It's about to get real sexy up in here.
Okay my legs are NOT that big, for the record. I have been swelled up since surgery, so about 6 days now. Plus take into account my leg insides are all 1 inch mushed up. I haven't visibly seen a reduction but I know its going down, slowly but surely. My right foot is reminiscent of an obese woman's, and it's extremely uncomfortable to put any kind of pressure on it. As you can see my left foot is less swollen but it's tipped over to the right. I have no idea for this and have been trying to correct it while I sleep. I think it all has to do with the swelling though.
Oh, gee. Your legs look SOOOOO huge. #sarcasm
Seriously, they look bigger than mine...when I was like 8 years old.
I remember that feeling of trying to put my foot on the ground the first time after surgery. I really would not wish that pain on my worst enemy.
Didn't Dr. S give you any kind of corrective splints or anything for your feet?
Yuck. That little nick is from the first night I went full blown spastic and took a razor to my dressings because they felt too tight. I didn't even feel it lol and the nurse looked scared.
Careful, Girl. Doing ish like that was what got Sarin furious at DSINutcaseBlog last year.
As much as I hated being at the hospital I was actually starting to get used to it and now I miss being there. I just hate hospitals in general. But the bed was comfier than the one I have now, the tv was better, I was forced to eat, if I dropped something or needed something across the room all I had to do was summon a nurse by the click of the button.
I TOTALLY felt the same way, because I had seen our guest house (it was ghetto stank nasty, complete with mice) and the hospital was so nice and clean.
I'm at the hotel now where I guess eventually everyone will be going along with the other ones like it. It just looks like a big house. It probably looks like the guesthouse inside. My room is drab but alright I suppose. Solid 3/5 for India. The place reeks of Indian food though and not the good kind lol. Its cold in here too but you have to ask for a space heater and they'll bring you one. I didn't know this the last time. The beds uncomfortable and no sheets but what can ya do.
Damn, seriously? You hafta sleep right on the old mattresses that have sucked in all the years of....OK, sorry, I'll stop. You should speak up and demand they provide some. And if they won't:
Even though I brought sheets with me (I feared nasty institutional stuff and I was right: what they give you to sleep on here is better suited for finishing lumber or smoothing out your pretty manicure), I just bought some extra pillows (369INR on Snapdeal) so I ordered a sheet set on Amazon for 299INR...that's like less than 5 bucks! Sure they won't be Nordstroms 400 thread count Egyptian Cotton, but dollars go a pretty long way here. Oh wait, is your money coming from yen right now?
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Those are some nasty bruises! :o
What's the pain for you right now?
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Oh, gee. Your legs look SOOOOO huge. #sarcasm
Seriously, they look bigger than mine...when I was like 8 years old.
I remember that feeling of trying to put my foot on the ground the first time after surgery. I really would not wish that pain on my worst enemy.
Didn't Dr. S give you any kind of corrective splints or anything for your feet?
Hahah shut up. Shiriq I guess is the physio and he wrapped my legs last night and today to get rid of the swelling some more. My legs are really moldy as in like if I wrap them tight for a certain amount of time they will take shape of the tightness and leave a weird ass dent in my leg. I'm trying to ignore this horror and tell myself I will not end up with play dough legs forever.
Damn, seriously? You hafta sleep right on the old mattresses that have sucked in all the years of....OK, sorry, I'll stop.
Oh wait, is your money coming from yen right now?
LOL no I shouldn't of said sheets cause they do have like, one thin old sheet covering the mattress and just the comforter on top. This is just bothersome to me cause I like sleeping with the full sheet set like a normal human being nam saying'?
When they changed the sheet though I noticed I am not sleeping on a king mattress but two twin mattresses put together. Classy.
No my bank account is American. I work and live on the military base there so I guess I haven't gone full blown Japanese. ::)
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Those are some nasty bruises! :o
What's the pain for you right now?
Pain is okay, just feels tight and sore all over. However it's extremely uncomfortable almost to the point of painful to sleep at night. Like very warm pins and needles sensation. I loves my sleep so I'm a sad panda :'(
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So I guess my time here has been short lived. Got a visit from the good doctor yesterday who took time out of his busy schedule for a visit. I guess this place I'm at is having like security issues..something about not having the right permit or something? Apparently there were cops inspecting the first night I was here and I didn't even know lol. Guess this hotel transition is on hiatus.
SoOo I'm moving to the guesthouse! This is good I guess. I'll finally be able to get a little help. And I can finally get someone to make a run to the store for me. I've been fixin to get some chocolate reallllly bad.
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I know what you mean. Try to get Dairy Milk Silk, the pure one.
It's so good you can eat 1-2kg of it(that's what I did) ;D
Is the Turkish girl there too having more LS?
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Have a look around the guest house and tell us what u think.
Would b nice if u can talk the HLN patients and let us know how its all going for them..lol
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Sweden, I have no idea. I don't think she's here at the hotel. I'm gonna find out though.
Adriano, for sure!
Sarin told me that LLers at his guesthouse(probably referring to what happened before) aren't "mentally prepared to be around someone who wants to be shorter". Guess we'll see.
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What if you were to tell them that you were lengthrning at a hotel up til now and you're in your consolidation phase? They might be nicer to you that way.
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Sarin told me that LLers at his guesthouse(probably referring to what happened before) aren't "mentally prepared to be around someone who wants to be shorter".
Hehe, that gave me a good laugh...
They'd just sit and stare at you all day, perplexed ;D
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Sarin told me that LLers at his guesthouse(probably referring to what happened before) aren't "mentally prepared to be around someone who wants to be shorter". Guess we'll see.
I would be prepared if its a girl ::)
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Hey guys. Been incognito due to pure laziness and getting used to the schedule around here. Plus dealing with physio and complications.
Gonna have to apologize because I have been quarantined to the first floor and therefore have no social contact with any of the LLers. A precaution the staff and doc took most likely, lol. I did meet one guy that came into my room the first day to weigh himself on the scale that was on my floor and we talked for a bit. He's from the same city I am too! Crazy small world right? He was on crutches and told me he was getting out of here in 3 days. So he's gone now. I guess he was having a hard time gaining weight.
The foyer when you first come in the house was pretty nice, however my room is pretty ghetto, at least by American standards. (I do have a little tv though with all those great American channels they had at that nice hotel I was in :D) My bathrooms worse, but the toilet is clean enough that I don't complain. Apparently I have the only hot water in the guesthouse and my physio told me that I am not allowed to let anyone come in to use it. I don't see what the fuss is cause the hot water literally lasts 3 mins. Its heated by a tiny water heater and it sucks bawlz. I'm gonna just sponge bath it next time.
The food is alright, some meals better than others. It's mainly indian dishes. The one I don't like very much at all is the penne pasta one because it tastes sweet and blegh.
My new physio is a girl and she's cool and all but I can kinda tell she's not really a real physio.
Complications: So for about a little more than a week now I have been unable to move either of my big toes back. I can move them forward a little but backwards I've lost all power. Sarin said this was okay and eventually I would get my function back. Along with this is a really weird sensation going on with my feet, ankles and toes that literally feels like bugs are crawling around on it and biting. The pricks are all day continuous and some are more painful than others. I looked it up online and found something that said it could be do to nerve damage. This would make sense due to my toes not working and since its happening on both my feet. Sarin said that if I don't have my function back around the time before I leave they would do a small, quick surgery in my foot :'( I really hope I don't have to do this. The physio kinda pisses me off sometimes cause she'll exercise my toes back and forth and will scratch and poke at my big toe trying to make it move or push down on it as if it will magically start moving again.
Another thing that has just started happening these past couple days that hasn't happened before is when I lift my legs up the air I can feel and see the cut bone popping up on both legs at the break site. Its like the bone below the knee is trying to support the rest of my leg and foot and its gotten harder now to lift both legs. This is really concerning to me and the first thing I could think of was non union. But idk I think it might be too early to tell. What I do know is that the two pieces of cut bone are not stable enough and not locked together like they should be, as if the nail put inside me was too small for my tibia. Anyway its really gotten uncomfortable even to sit with my legs over the edge of the bed.
On a happier note I did get ahold of some chocolate, Dairy Milk Silk like Sweden was mentioning and it was DA booomb. Today I also had someone go get me strawberry oreos. I've been getting embarrassed to keep asking to get sweets but honestly when you're laying in bed all day bored AF with no one to talk to, 3 square meals just don't cut it. I'm a snacker I need my comfort food. lol.
For the most part my spirits have been pretty low these days past. My swelling is pretty much gone but now all these new concerns are springing up. Sarin won't be coming today and who knows when I'll see him again. And because of the biting sensation in my feet and discomfort in my legs I'm afraid to go to sleep because I literally don't get any rest. I wake up at least twice every night. Instead of getting stronger I feel like my legs are getting weaker :( These are dark times. Any positive energies you could donate would be really amazing...
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Hey Olivetree,
I haven't been keeping up with your posts since the diary is in such a secluded area of the site. It seems you and I share some things in common. If you've read my story on old forum , you'll see I too have a penchant for oreos and chocolate. I gave up the oreos though --went cold turkey as per Sweden's urging-- but I replaced that predilection with beer for a while. Now I'm finally cleaning up the diet and have a chocolate protein shake when I crave. Hopefully your cravings die down over time.
The other thing is the toe conundrum. I too have had my toe stymied in its motion (only the left thankfully). I was told by the good doctor Sringari that it would come back in a few weeks time. It's been well over two months now and it still remains the same. The doctor has given up on any mention of it now and my physio claims that it's now the tendon being caught by a pin causing the immobility. He said after frame removal it'll free up. I've consigned myself long ago to not think too critically on such matters any more. What's the point when nothing can be done to soothe your qualms? Anyway, glad to see another westerner is dwelling some bed in some slum of India, begging for clemency; cursing herself for her stupidity and living everyday in abject regret. I'll be sure to include your toes in my prayers going forward. Welcome to the party, hun.
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Hey Ashoka, many thanks for the advice and kind words:) I did have someone get me two more sleeves of Strawberry Oreos, but I think I'm done now. Or I'll try. Lol. I did just finish more chocolate though. I really need to stop because my muscles have atrophied quite a bit and I don't want to turn into an immobile sack of fat.
Update:
As of today I have two weeks left here. Sarin asked me if I could postpone my leaving. Probably because he just now realized I may need a little more time to recover before I hop on a plane, due to my feet and everything. I extended my stay for 4 more days, lol. Truth is I can't stand it here anymore! I'm going crazy by myself. I'm lonely and miss my clean apartment and American food way too much. The food here is becoming repetitive in itself and in taste. Dr. Sahil said I could ask for any request in food if I don't like something, but what am I supposed to ask for? There's only so much these guys can do. It's not like I can be like, "Hey guys, tomorrows dinner I want a grilled cheese sandwich and creamy tomato soup."(comfort food) So I don't even bother and just choke it down. It's like being at summer camp.
My legs have gotten a lot better. After that whole thing with the bone tenting the skin they had my PT stopped and now I just sit on a chair and put weights on my knees to fuse the ends of the bones. However I still feel movement at the cut site and I'm gonna ask the doc about it cause I'm pretty sure early physio fked up my healing. The nurse saw me a couple days ago and told me not to move my ankle back and forth and the doctor said not to move my toes and I'm like well the fk why did you have someone exercise that for a week!? Serious miscommunication going on.
On a brighter note I just started practicing my standing with the walker. I'm able to do it for longer and longer and I'm taking that as a sign. Sooo ready to get out of here. I'm visiting the navy hospital as soon as I get back for check ups and to get a real opinion about when to start PT.
Up until last Monday I was pretty down and depressed. But paying $10 and waking up at 5 AM to watch my Seahawks lay down an ass whooping really lifted my spirits and I've been suk it up ever since! lol. Also visiting the site mybrokenleg.com comforts me by reading about other peoples problems with broken legs. (I know it's not an accurate comparison but close enough lol) You never truly appreciate the gifts and abilities you have until they're taken away from you. Whether it be of your own doing or not. I do regret mutilating myself as I did and not loving myself as I should but I know the outcome will be rewarding as soon as I start taking those delicious first steps and experience new confidence in new height.
As for the shortener twins I finally solved the mystery!
They have been living in India for over a year. They never truly left, together at least. While one stayed here one went back to work and make more money for their shortening addictions. They aren't at the guesthouse because they've actually rented out a place here and have a medical visa they kept renewing. They've both done their tibias and the guy also did his femurs. They're staying to do their arms too! Sarin told me he refused to do their forearms though for obvious reasons. Freaking crazy. It's been traumatic enough for me just doing my tibias. After standing with the walker and checking myself out in the mirror I'm actually pleased with what I see. An inch was just enough:) they must be truly fking tall and sad to waste thousands upon thousands of dollars together and over a year of torture and many more years of rehabilitation to do this . Sarin asked me if I wanted to go meet them but I think I was too taken aback to say yes. I will ask him next time I see him. It would actually be beneficial for my recovery to see how they're doing.
Well that's all I got for now. I'll probably update at least once before I leave. I've been glued to Facebook and finishing tv shows online to keep me connected to the outside world. For my sanity:) deuces.
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Hello Olivetree,
Hope you are still alive and well.
If you could give us an update, it would be very much appreciated by your friends here at LL Forum.
Have a great day,
Tall
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What's up Olivetree? You make it out of Sarin's okay?
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This sounds like making out of the gauntlet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_the_gauntlet) alive.
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You make it out of Sarin's okay?
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Hi olive, how are you?
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I don't want to be rude, but 5'6 for a women is actually short, i don't know where did you live, but 5'5 5'6 5'7 and 5'8 are consider the ideal height for women, even when you wear 5" heels you still be 5' 11 which is tall i must say but normal, i went to lived in europe and i gotta tell you, more than 80% of the women are taller than 5' 6, especially the dutch women, who is around 5' 8 to 5' 10 or more, i respect your decision to be shorter, but you really need to do research about it before you really undergo surgery, peace
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Haha!! So the twins stayed for a full year ;D LOL!!
They both have mentally issues. Don't meet them, they will just start a fight with you for writing your diary.
The guy did both his legs and humorous, nice. He must look really awkward. I have to see him.
I met him when he was at his taller height, but he was fine to me. Even the girl looked okey at her height.
They said we were all fake men who wanted LL, but what the hell are they now 10cm less??? ;D
It's hilarious, they are so messed up in their heads. I do t think even serial killers are that messed up in their brains like those two.
And then they accused us of spreading rumors that they both were having sex.
Well, hearing that they lived together for a full year in India now I'm convinced they sleep with each other.
Maybe their parents also were twins and that's why they are so mentally Ill. ;D LOL
Nice to hear from you.
Please give us an update!
Best
//Sweden
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Olivetree-- Im from America and I want to get a limb reduction as well. I was planning on going to Dr Sarin as well..We HAVE to talk.
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We should not criticize her desire to be shorter anymore.
You know why?
Because it is what she wants. That should be enough.
And more importantly because she already did the surgery, had complications, and is under enough pressure now.
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How is she though? Olivetree hasn't updated for a long while. I'm worried about her.
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Kusop, check PM about your post.
I think Olivetree will update soon, all the best to her recovery.
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Dameon, have you heard from Olivetree or how she is doing?
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Hi everyone. Super apologies for not keeping up with this thing. I kept on visiting the site after I came home but my depression got so strong even the thought about this site or the idea of limb lengthening/shortening gave me a moment of anxiety. Even pulling up the will to write an update right now is hard.
Now that the swelling has gone down pretty much almost all the way I'm not too thrilled with the length of my calves in proportion to my thighs. But it only looks odd when I'm nked so I'm not too worried about it. Just another thing I'm going to have to suck up and deal with.
My cut fibulas became displaced in India. You can see and feel the bump on both of my legs where they stick out. Sarin says they will remodel and will eventually go back to their original shape, but that could take a long time. I asked the doctor here if they could do anything and he said not while the bones healing, no.
The main reason I wasn't writing on here was because I was going through the incredible stress of the tendon transfers Sarin performed on both my feet to correct the loss of function in my toes. I went to the hospital that day for just X-rays I thought but then afterward was being carted away to this room where I had this electric current test done on my legs and feet. Sarin came in to read the results and said he thinks that it would be best if I underwent the surgery to fix my toes. I tried to get out of another surgery but he insisted. Of course being the fktard that I am I didn't ask what the surgery was called or what was being done exactly. I just assumed it was work that was being done on the nerve. It was afterward when I started talking about it on old forum that I got some cryptic ass warning from some anonymous entity who asked Dameon to pass along the message. Saying that they too had the same issue and that Sarin wanted to do the same surgery but after their extensive research and warnings from "competent" doctors not to do it, that it was a last resort method, they avoided the catastrophe. So after a lot of researching and freaking myself out and arguing with Sarin and hating Indias guts I finally get to the day of my departure, happy as hell with the intent on going to the emergency room at the naval hospital back home to try and reverse the surgery ASAP. I had casts on both my legs(from the tendon transfer) and a walker, so you can imagine the decrepit, hot mess I was. I HATED everyone trying to help me or hurry out of my way or ask me what happened or just blatantly staring at me.
Anyway when I get home I'm happy as fk. Japan is beautiful and sunny and clean. No dirty, nked homeless children running around on the streets! I had never ever been so happy to see my base in my whole life. My house was clean and smelled like comfort:) I drank and smoked the night away(yes I know stupid I don't need a lecture)(lol).
The next day I go to the ER. It's incredibly embarrassing to tell them my story, as you can imagine. I get this whore of a nurse who gets the nerve to say to me after I'm done explaining, "So you go travel to a foreign country, have an illegal surgery and now you don't like the results." I just glared at her and said "No, it's just my feet I'm worried about." Thank God there was a nicer nurse in the room who ignored her and just focused on helping me. (In the spirit of Jesse Pinkman: "BITCH!")
So as you may have guessed they can't help me in the ER and don't know anything about the procedures I've done so they make me an appointment in the orthopedic department for the next day. Nothing really to say about it except the doctor didn't know from about anything and all he did was make me hate my life and had my casts taken off so he could look at my legs, and then I got better ones put on after wards. So I scheduled ANOTHER appointment with a better doctor and saw him the following week and he was WAY more informative. He actually knew about leg shortening/lengthening and took a special interest in podiatry. He said that normally they do wait for the function to come back in the toes on their own but a tendon tansfer is required when they don't. He said that he had no idea why Sarin would just jump right into it.
{I have a theory of my own. I think that Sarin was taken by surprise at my interest in leaving so early without his precious work being finished and his ego couldn't handle the idea of me going back home in less than a satisfactory state in his eyes. He probably didn't want me seeing other doctors either. I feel that if I had stayed longer and waited this would have never happened, since I was too stupid to question and refuse the surgery.}
Anyway so I'm devastated right and I ask him if this is gonna make my legs defomed and if I'll walk normally yadda yadda yadda and he was totally not worried about me. He said that my legs should look normal since the muscle normally connected to the big toe is pretty thin anyways so if it atrophied then it wouldn't make a big difference. He said my recovery would all depend on how well I do in PT and since I'm young and fit it shouldn't be a problem. People have tendon transfers all the time and they go about their normal lives. I'm just going to be different from now on in that I'll have one working tendon in my foot instead of two.
So SUCK ON THAT YOU ANONYMOUS PIECE OF SH!T. I WILL MAKE A FULL RECOVERY. BECAUSE OF YOU I WAS STRESSING MY fk!NG TITS OFF FOR DAYS THINKING MY LIFE WAS OVER. YOUR LIFE IS OVER, BITCH.
*breathes...*
Phew...mmm, okay. Where was I? Oh yeah, so a couple days ago I had more X-rays done. Its been 4 weeks since my last and it already has shown significant healing! Thats a step up from the absolute zero I had. Its not fully consolidated yet but I have another appointment at the end of this month, right before I move back to the states. Which, by the way is gonna be scary as fk. Having to find another hospital and another doc I'm going to have to tell my horror story to. Having to fight with my ex about taking care of me. Seeing my family again as some crippled freak and having to lie to them about what happened to me.
Since I left India I have been using the walker. My legs do hurt after sometime from all the pressure and swelling and then eventually my body just lets me know its time to rest. In the beginning I was extremely depressed because I was homebound, lying in bed all day or on the couch watching TV. But day by day my legs have been getting stronger and my friend here took me out a few times to the beach and then the mall and the zoo with her kids. We had to use a wheelchair with her pushing me since I can't walk for long periods which is completely embarrassing but me and my friend just crack jokes about it and how retarded we look since I'm so young. A lot of people will stare too and one time I yelled, "Take a picture, bitch!" lmao.
However now I have begun to walk unaided! :) well, its more of an awkward waddle but its something! Haha. My joints crack a bit from all the weight that my legs are just starting to support again. I WANTED to start PT but when I went to the doctors a couple days ago the douche I had the first time round was seeing me and he said that PT wouldn't be a good idea right now since I guess the tendons are still healing(which apparently takes up to 6 months?!) I wouldn't want to stretch them out. Which makes NO sense because the smarter doc I saw last month said that if I had healing right now then I could start PT. My plantar flexion is totally gone. I can only move my feet forward a couple inches if that. I've got like, the opposite of ballerina foot! That's what most worries me, everything else seems to be going fine. But by the end of this month I hope to ditch my stupid walker(which I have respectfully named after the late Paul Walker, which makes it funny to talk about taking Paul Walker to the bathroom with me and helping me make food lol), and leave here with maybe a cane.
So thats pretty much the update guys. Instead of enjoying beautiful Japan my last month here I've been stuck inside. A lot of reading, caught up on The Walking Dead and True Blood. Finally finished Breaking Bad. I've been frequenting mybrokenleg.com a lot since the people on that site seem to be going through more similar things as me that you guys on here don't really experience. I've been eating a lot too to aid with healing. Back in India I was barely eating what they gave me. Here I have all my favorite healthy foods that I can just eat continuously. Yes, I've gotten fatter.
Last week I got steroid injections at the cosmetic surgery place downtown for the largest scars on my legs. It's gonna take about a month to see some results so we'll see if its worth it! ::)
Just going to throw this out there since I know this is what all y'all are wondering... YES, I regret it. But NO, I do not blame Dr. Sarin, I blame me. I'm 5 grand in debt, going to have to rehabilitate for the rest of the year or more(instead of just the 6 weeks I stupidly assumed), I'm emotionally and physically scarred for life. I could have been signing up for school right now or buying tickets to music festivals going on this summer. I know it's not gonna matter what I say since you guys are probably as hell bent as I was, but don't do it guys. It's not worth all the pain. A chunk of your life is gonna be wasted on something so inconsequential! Life is for living for yourself and your happiness, not for other people(who honestly, don't give two s how tall you are as long as you're an awesome human being!). Life's too short, so who gives a fk if you are too. There are so many other things I could have done to myself that would have made me feel better about being a little tall instead of chopping my healthy legs off. We're all beautiful. The universe doesn't make mistakes.
Anyway, that's all I got for now. I better get off here before I start wallowing in self pity. I've been avoiding this site like the plague because it honestly depressed me to visit. I want to get through all of this and eventually put everything about this behind me and forgive myself. I'm trying to see this as a learning experience and try to hold on to the hope it will make me a stronger person. But I thought I owed you guys an update, so here it is. Don't know when I'll be back. But if anyone has any questions about anything else I'll try to get back and answer them.
Anyways, goodnight and good luck. Gonna go back to looking at pictures of Daryl Dixon.
xoxo
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Jeez.. I'm really really sorry to hear about your situation olivetree. :-\ You will heal eventually (even the smart doctor didn't think your situation was bad), so never forget that and try to stay positive. I think also if the orthopedist recommended you to do PT, you should definitely do it and find one that's familiar with tendon replacement surgery.
Wishing you all the best and a full recovery!
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Thank you for the update Olive. I am sorry you have had such a difficult time but try to stay positive and work hard to get healthy again. You will get there eventually. :)
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Its really stupid of you to blame yourself ..!! you should blame Sarin for what he did to you , because he is the reason you got complication at first . If he did his job properly (which he is not able to perform either on LL or LS cause he is an inexperienced surgeon) , you wouldn't have to go through all this mess at all . it sucks to be in this kinda situation where you think you will be crippled for life (many patients have been through this including me).
i m not trying to offend you but i think you should read b/w the lines , back when Sarin drama started you should have realized that he is not a good surgeon but instead you didn't care about what people say and blindly jumped into the hell hole of Sarin's crippled army . And now you learned it the hard way ..!!
there are much worst untreated complications done by the great Sarin like ; foot drop , nerve issue , x legs , ballerina , alignment , fibula issue.....
and his recent correction surgery of mmn_native http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=25.60 this is the best correction he could do for mmn_native for $17500 (which should not be more then $6000/-) .
Sarin is charging way higher then Dr Parihar not to cure but to f**k the patients for entire life .
i don't know how much he charged you for the surgery but according to Dr Mangal Parihar it should be around $ 6,000/- for LS which he prefers not to do for cosmetic reasons .
"nutshell" stay strong and focused ..!!
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Its really stupid of you to blame yourself ..!! you should blame Sarin for what he did to you , because he is the reason you got complication at first . If he did his job properly (which he is not able to perform either on LL or LS cause he is an inexperienced surgeon) , you wouldn't have to go through all this mess at all . it sucks to be in this kinda situation where you think you will be crippled for life (many patients have been through this including me).
i m not trying to offend you but i think you should read b/w the lines , back when Sarin drama started you should have realized that he is not a good surgeon but instead you didn't care about what people say and blindly jumped into the hell hole of Sarin's crippled army . And now you learned it the hard way ..!!
there are much worst untreated complications done by the great Sarin like ; foot drop , nerve issue , x legs , ballerina , alignment , fibula issue.....
and his recent correction surgery of mmn_native http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=25.60 this is the best correction he could do for mmn_native for $17500 (which should not be more then $6000/-) .
Sarin is charging way higher then Dr Parihar not to cure but to f**k the patients for entire life .
i don't know how much he charged you for the surgery but according to Dr Mangal Parihar it should be around $ 6,000/- for LS which he prefers not to do for cosmetic reasons .
"nutshell" stay strong and focused ..!!
Before Sarin made the unprofessional decision to mess with my toes I was content with everything aside from the scars on my legs, which I was promptly warned about by him before I even had the surgery. My tibias are proportionate and look normal and the muscles and tissues are continuing to regenerate as expected. Everything involving the leg shortening was done right. The reasons why I have been depressed and miserable is because I was not prepared and ignorant about the recovery afterwards, I don't like the scars and I'm broke. I realized I should have thought about this more and spent my money on wiser things and just tried to grow to love myself. This whole thing is gonna set me back for a while but guess who's fault is that?? ME and me alone. Sarin didn't seek me out and trick me into the surgery. I came to him and told him this is what I wanted. He even recommended I do femurs because tibias take longer to heal. If I had done femurs my toes wouldn't of had any problems and my ankle ROM would be perfect. But I said no. I am a customer and Sarin is running an international business. I'm not excusing what he did or didn't do to other people, I'm just saying in my case he did his job.
And I'm not calling him a saint or anything, but he was urging me to stay longer, and when I said that I was homesick as well as didn't have the money to be at the guesthouse for any longer than a month, he told me that if I'm tight on cash, money won't be an issue. That's how much he thought I needed to stay. And I left India without paying a dime for the guesthouse! All I paid for was the surgery and everything else was free. So as a tip to anyone going to Sarin, let him know if money is tight. Might not work for everyone but it's worth a shot.
The only thing I'm mad about was him pressuring me into the tendon transfer surgery. It's not going to make me a cripple but I do have to work on getting back to normal. I've made my bed and now I have to lay in it. Do I wish I could go back in time and change my mind about everything? Every single day! But what's done is done and I need to move forward and stop being hung up on the past. I WILL recover, it's just going to be harder than what I assumed. So I recommend you Machine to try to move past your anger you still seem to have after all this time too.
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I might post pics and/or videos soon just to give everyone a glimpse on my progress. 8)
Also for the guy who apparently wants shortening too.
ZaynKhan: I have no idea why a dude would want LS.... :-X 6'2'' is a sexy, manly height for a guy. I understand though that being tall sometimes means you have elongated arms or neck that could make you look lanky and awkward, which accentuates your height in a negative way. If thats the case idk if shortening will do much to help. But if you must, DO FEMURS!
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yeah you are right that i should move on and i m trying to move on but what upsets me is the fact that they are still playing with our lives . i also feel depress when i visit this site but i try to waste my time n' energy here to make people aware about these doctors because i don't want future LL patients fall into this trap and suffer like us .
if you know what i know about Sarin then you will be scared to like me and others that you did surgery with him ;
Sarin knows himself that he is not a good surgeon , that he fked so many patients . Still he agrees to do any kinda surgery for money?
He doesn't care about others at all . mmn_native is a good example , Sarin couldn't even perform correction surgery for mmn_native for $17500/- (which is insanely high) and now mmn_native is totaly broke for further correction (i hope he is alright).
do you really think Sarin is that generous for letting you stay in the guest house without paying a dime ? the trick is you already paid too much only for the surgery . india is a very cheap country , that's why only india provides medical visas .
still ,if you blame yourself then its your life but be careful in future . i only hope better for you ..!!
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Ok so I was reading your posts. I'm 5'7 and have always hated my height but unfortunately I would not have this surgery because I would be way to scared of the hell it would bring me. You can get a bone infection, which is very hard to get rid of. You can have a bent leg for life and the toe going inwards, is that better?
But I DO respect your decision, it was very brave and I hope the best for you and others who get there bones cut into. So I'm wondering just a few details: 1) how is the surgery performed, do they removed the tissue and the muscle or ONLY the bone? Like do they only remove bone and then there is extra tissue on you calf. Confused.
2) What is the tendon transplant?
3) How are you doing and is your progress getting better/worse. Can you walk and does it hurt still. Have you tried to walk or is it not allowed?
Posts some pictures if you can and keep this blog up because HONESTLY this is the only blog I could find online about leg shortening, I think you may be the first actually.
I would be soooo scared to do this in india. And how did you find out about this Dr and why is he so hated? Why would you go to a doctor that is hated??? Lol. I would only go to a doctor in the states or somewhere where they have better equipment/technology and many people are getting this done, not being the first one.
Ok show us your results.
ALSO, 1 more question, can you get more that 1 inch taken off or does it have to be only 3cm, because if I am 5'7 1/2 I think one inch will bring me only to 5'6 1/2 and that doesn't seem worth it. Can you do like 1 inch from tibia and 1 inch from femur. Or is it not allowed? Can they do 2 inches from tibia?
Okay thanks again :) You will get better I know it just eat a lot of meat and calcium even if you are vegetarian, you need the protein from red meat which will speed up your healing.
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I'm sorry to hear of your plight. Yet another of Sarins patients unhappy with the final outcome of undergoing treatment by this lack luster surgical handyman. No disrespect to you as I and numerous of my friends left his care with dissatisfaction and regret.
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Is the tendon transfer surgery reversible?
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thank you so much for posting your story! im only 16 but I want leg shortening surgery (so so badly you cant even imagine) for the same exact reasons as you. I just don't know how to go about it.... and everyone always says things like "oh why do you wanna be short etc." but they just don't get how exactly bad that I want it... even if I could just lose 2 inches i'd be good cause I am 5'6'' right now. I've done all I could and surgery is what I want. would really like to keep in touch with you to ask you a few questions about it. like how was the cost etc and was it safe? kk thanks! p.s. im glad you was able to achieve the surgery, and im happy for your success.
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Leg shortening comes with its share of problems. The doctors I asked about it on behalf of another all thought it wasn't a good idea. You'll lose leg strength and the muscle compresses, apparently making the legs looks unsightly.
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Everyone who wants leg shortening has been mentally ill.
Don't do it!!
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Olivetree says she regrets doing this surgery everyday... I highly suggest you not do it.
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thank you so much for posting your story! im only 16 but I want leg shortening surgery (so so badly you cant even imagine) for the same exact reasons as you. I just don't know how to go about it.... and everyone always says things like "oh why do you wanna be short etc." but they just don't get how exactly bad that I want it... even if I could just lose 2 inches i'd be good cause I am 5'6'' right now. I've done all I could and surgery is what I want. would really like to keep in touch with you to ask you a few questions about it. like how was the cost etc and was it safe? kk thanks! p.s. im glad you was able to achieve the surgery, and im happy for your success.
Lol you are short already ...sigh..
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Lol you are short already ...sigh..
5'6 is a perfect height for a woman these days. It's nowhere close to short.
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5'6 is a perfect height for a woman these days. It's nowhere close to short.
Yep. But it is still short. Otherwise people would not deem 5'6 man short.
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Yep. But it is still short. Otherwise people would not deem 5'6 man short.
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Yes consider me your master.
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I would also love to know the answers to these questions Olivetree.
I'm 174cm tall, 5'8, 27year old girl. Would lovvvvvvve this surgery.
Looking at dr Xia from china
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I would also love to know the answers to these questions Olivetree.
I'm 174cm tall, 5'8, 27year old girl. Would lovvvvvvve this surgery.
Looking at dr Xia from china
You're height is just perfect the way it is.
Get on a diet instead and hit the gym.
EVERYONE who has done this surgery has been close to retarded.
(I could understand it if you're above 6 feet, but you're not)
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Let them sweden, stupid&ignorant people deserve all the pain they can get. Zero fks given.
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Everyone who wants leg shortening has been mentally ill.
Don't do it!!
Agree so much,not only your legs look much unglier and stumpy afterthat. We want height,and you don't want it.AND YOU ARE NOT EVEN fkING TALL GIRLS. YOU WILL LOOK LIKE MONKEYS AFTER THAT. JUST DAMN UNDERSTAND HOW PRECIOUS HEIGHT IS. AS SWEDEN SAID YOU ARE MENTALLY SICK. YOU ARE TOO TALL?YOU LOOK SKINNY? fkIING WORK YOUR ASS IN THE GYM,YOU ARE A GIRL AND FEEL TALL? DONT WEAR HIGH HEELS. SO SIMPLE >.<
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Agree so much,not only your legs look much unglier and stumpy afterthat. We want height,and you don't want it.AND YOU ARE NOT EVEN f**kING TALL GIRLS. YOU WILL LOOK LIKE MONKEYS AFTER THAT. JUST DAMN UNDERSTAND HOW PRECIOUS HEIGHT IS. AS SWEDEN SAID YOU ARE MENTALLY SICK. YOU ARE TOO TALL?YOU LOOK SKINNY? f**kIING WORK YOUR ASS IN THE GYM,YOU ARE A GIRL AND FEEL TALL? DONT WEAR HIGH HEELS. SO SIMPLE >.<
u look pissed, ahah, chill out man
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u look pissed, ahah, chill out man
He's frustrated ;D
He wants a girl probably. And then he see one with perfect height and she ruins it just bc she is stupid.
Everyone gets pissed bc of that ;)
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He's frustrated ;D
He wants a girl probably. And then he see one with perfect height and she ruins it just bc she is stupid.
Everyone gets pissed bc of that ;)
I am 5'8 with a girl almost the same height as me and we are together for more than a year so that's not my case. its like girls make so immature decision and shortening legs will destroy your appearance and make women look like monkeys hahaha :D this girl is not even considered tall and she wants to fall below average? Jesus
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Women over 5'8 look like men from behind or maybe im short so i feel threathned by her. But it pisses me off though, Short ass torso with unproportional long legs just to fk with short guys.
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What happened to the other girl, the one from Dubai ? Anyone know ?
Mentally sick says Sweden ha ha like Sweden is completely sane :P
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Everyone who wants leg shortening has been mentally ill.
Don't do it!!
correction: everyone who is of average height who wants this surgery.
I'm 6'7 and believe me, unless you are a professional athlete, it's a nightmare.
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correction: everyone who is of average height who wants this surgery.
I'm 6'7 and believe me, unless you are a professional athlete, it's a nightmare.
I believe you and you guys are rare.
But you have it more easy than a 5'1-guy.
You could be the next "The Rock". A 5'1-guy can't.
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The Rock is 6'3 which is a cool height for US. 6'7 is way tall and that's where you get those tall jokes and view as a freak to some shallow people.
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You could be the next "The Rock". A 5'1-guy can't.
Is this your goal in life ? ... me too i wanna be a "midget" Rock :'(
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5"5 is not tall....................
you are not getting discriminated against because of height...........
what is actually happening is people are doing what people do........
it has nothing to do with your height. if there were 3 girls and someone was hanging out with you and they were 5"2 each and you were 5"7 and the average of the population is (for argument sake) 5"10 you would get called tall not because you are tall but because its relative.
for example they say you should be a model when they all know you are to short to be a model. they are just fking with you because you are taller than your friends.
please don't tell me you were silly enough to not understand that people were calling you tall when you were not tall. just because they were joking on the fact that they are short......
you need to grow up. you are a child and were unable to see between the lines in a social setting.
either way I wish you luck and no matter how bad things seem people WILL ALWAYS HEAL. just take ant for example. he had it the worst and he is back to walking and being a normal farther figure.
please keep us updated. if you don't like what you hear that is bad luck. we are here as a reality check. we are not yes men. we give you the cold hard truth whether you want to hear it or not. but no matter how much of an idiot we call you. or how much we think you should see a psychologist know that we really care about you and want you to be happy.
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The Rock is 6'3 which is a cool height for US. 6'7 is way tall and that's where you get those tall jokes and view as a freak to some shallow people.
Agreed, 6'3 is a great height.
I'm booking in to reduce down by 8.5-9cm that will mean i'm just under 6'4 or 6'3 and a half... 1/50 men my age are that tall.. its commonplace, whereas at the moment I'm 1/10000 .. that really is freak status! I don't think you can imagine just what thats like!
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I'd gladly give up all my material possessions to be 6'7 over 5'1 as a male, if I had to choose between one of those two heights. But, I'm afraid I actually can't relate to you. The tallest I've ever been with absurd amounts of lifts is 6'2 (up from almost 180CM) and it was amazing. I do agree that bigger isn't better, but, in society's eyes, I think that it's safe to say that freakishly tall is still better than freakishly short.
Do you have any concrete plans for your shortening surgery? Who are you considering doing your surgery with? Which leg segment will you shorten?
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I'd gladly give up all my material possessions to be 6'7 over 5'1 as a male, if I had to choose between one of those two heights. But, I'm afraid I actually can't relate to you. The tallest I've ever been with absurd amounts of lifts is 6'2 (up from almost 180CM) and it was amazing. I do agree that bigger isn't better, but, in society's eyes, I think that it's safe to say that freakishly tall is still better than freakishly short.
Do you have any concrete plans for your shortening surgery? Who are you considering doing your surgery with? Which leg segment will you shorten?
yes, freakishly tall is better. I'd say 6'7 is about as desirable as 5'9.
Anyway, the reason I'm doing this is no longer be hassled about this 10 times a day! Also, my dating pool will be vastly bigger, I'll perfectly fit cars, trousers, plane seats, doorframes etc for the 50+ remaining years of my life.
I'm shortening both femurs and tibias, 5 cm femur, 4cm tibia. I'm going with Ilizarov clinic at this point. I investigated harley street, but it has come to a total of £30,000 .. and that is out of my range.
Do you know if ilizarov is good?
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i'm 182 cm and i hate my height, but i don't know if i would take yours mrtall over mine.
I think you should aim 193 cm and not 190 cm, 193 is a very good too, and the less you shorten the safer it is.
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i'm 182 cm and i hate my height, but i don't know if i would take yours mrtall over mine.
I think you should aim 193 cm and not 190 cm, 193 is a very good too, and the less you shorten the safer it is.
5'11 is better than 6'7 in my opinion, as long as you better than average in looks... i.e Brad Pitt.
well actually, 192-192.5 is the target, I'm determined to be get under 6'4 which is still in my opinion very tall when wearing dress shoes. My reasoning is: if I'm going this far, I might as well get the result I want! 6'3 and a half is the goal!
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my opinion is to stick with 6'4 because its a better height than 6'3, its not too tall but it is good :) fckkk just give me 4 inches man to take be to 6 feet haha :/
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Some people here have serious mental issues. One 6'0 guy telling that he hate his height. Go to psychologist
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my opinion is to stick with 6'4 because its a better height than 6'3, its not too tall but it is good :) fckkk just give me 4 inches man to take be to 6 feet haha :/
6'4 with a good physique is pretty impressive yh.. probably an "athletic ideal" if there was such a thing.
However, I think the "social ideal" and for picking up chicks is 6'1-6'2 range.. its less intimidating to the average person and you can be very intimate whilst not having to crane down too much and look supplicating. So 6'3.5 gets me very close to that effect when wearing normal shoes. similarly if I want to be more imposing, I can wear dress shoes and hit 6'4.5
To be honest though, ANYTHING 6'0-6'4 is the pinnacle and we should be very happy if we can get in this range without any long term complications.
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I agree with you wholeheartedly about the ideal range. Best of luck attaining your height goal.
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Picking up chicks... ideal height ranges... quintessence of dust.
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I'm so happy to read this posts here about leg shortening. I also want to be shortere. I'm 169 cm and I wish SO MUCH that I was 163,0 cm in the afternoon.
I have had this big wish for 14 years now.
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Why would you want leg shortening doe? 169cm isn't that much even for a woman.
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169 isn't too tall for a girl. This surgery isn't for you in my opinion
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I'm so happy to read this posts here about leg shortening. I also want to be shortere. I'm 169 cm and I wish SO MUCH that I was 163,0 cm in the afternoon.
I have had this big wish for 14 years now.
You could trade with me anytime, I would love to be your height. I don't know where you're from but that sounds like a pretty great height to me, most of my close female friends around 170. Then there's me who still get treated like or mistaken for a middle school kid. Lol