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Title: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Dirona on May 12, 2021, 04:11:52 AM
How do you guys handle rejection by women for being short?
How do you move on?
For me, it stays with me for a long time esp. when I see that most of my friends are able to get dates much more easily..


I usually try to distract by focusing on work
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: daikioni on May 12, 2021, 04:27:50 AM
If you were 6 feet the same girl will still reject you.You cant be liked by everyone and everyone has flaws.
Bonus advice stop bitching about being rejected by girls on the internet nobody cares.A therapist can listen to your problems and help with your problems!
I hope you have a pleasant day!
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Thorfinnn on May 12, 2021, 05:08:32 AM
Everyone gets rejected if you keep trying and trying, some will say yes a lot will say no. But don’t beat yourself up on it I learned that people have there reasons whether they are not in the mood don’t feel good, not feeling a connection and many more reasons. Trust me it’s better to move on then to keep thinking about it. If they don’t like you for you then it’s not worth your time
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on May 12, 2021, 06:14:01 AM
1. Have the belief that you'll bd more attractive someday.

2. Get LL.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: RealLostSoul on May 12, 2021, 06:16:31 AM
You can tell yourself it’s just a bitch but if you are honest you can’t blame her because males usually don’t like obese girls do, being short is the equivalent. So just do LL.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Thorfinnn on May 12, 2021, 06:22:47 AM
You can tell yourself it’s just a bitch but if you are honest you can’t blame her because males usually don’t like obese girls do, being short is the equivalent. So just do LL.

Yep that’s why we’re here to get LL and cure our height neurosis
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: brayzer on May 12, 2021, 07:37:47 AM
how tall are you and where u live?
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: overandover on May 12, 2021, 11:54:50 AM
How do you guys handle rejection by women for being short?
How do you move on?
For me, it stays with me for a long time esp. when I see that most of my friends are able to get dates much more easily..


I usually try to distract by focusing on work

Tall guys get rejected all the time for one reason or another. But height helps a lot and being short is a big disadvantage. Just get the surgery and in the meantime find another girl.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: BelowTheMean on May 12, 2021, 03:24:05 PM
Think about it this way - even if a 6' tall guy has 4x the chance of getting a girl than an equivalent 5'6" guy, it might be the difference between a 5% chance and a 20% chance. Being tall doesn't guarantee that you'll get girls. I also don't think average guys have it that much easier than short guys. Some girls aren't even attracted to the most popular male celebrities, so you'll never hit 100% a success rate.

Yeah, it sucks to be rejected due to height, but also remember that height is sometimes just an easy excuse and not the actual reason you might be getting rejected.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: - on May 12, 2021, 05:50:42 PM
How do you guys handle rejection by women for being short?
How do you move on?

By being taller.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Dirona on May 13, 2021, 05:22:53 AM
Think about it this way - even if a 6' tall guy has 4x the chance of getting a girl than an equivalent 5'6" guy, it might be the difference between a 5% chance and a 20% chance. Being tall doesn't guarantee that you'll get girls. I also don't think average guys have it that much easier than short guys. Some girls aren't even attracted to the most popular male celebrities, so you'll never hit 100% a success rate.

Yeah, it sucks to be rejected due to height, but also remember that height is sometimes just an easy excuse and not the actual reason you might be getting rejected.

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Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Astronomy on May 13, 2021, 12:55:39 PM
It is me that will plan on LL and turn back to tell her I deserve more outstanding girls than you little b*ch.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Worzezterlire on May 13, 2021, 01:39:12 PM
It is me that will plan on LL and turn back to tell her I deserve more outstanding girls than you little b*ch.

I think this veers on incel attitude (EDIT: not saying you are one, it’s just an incel-adjacent thought process).  I understand it and I’ve been there and done that before (not about height, though) but it’s unhealthy to hold spite over rejection.  The best thing to do is improve yourself and find that better woman, don’t keep going back to the bad one to prove them wrong.  Don’t overvalue someone who doesn’t value you in the first place.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: trunkmonkey on June 12, 2021, 12:41:30 AM
The same way anyone else handles rejection from being ugly, or girls not liking their personality. By moving on.

Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: - on June 12, 2021, 08:46:09 AM
The same way anyone else handles rejection from being ugly, or girls not liking their personality. By moving on.

Except that personality can literally be changed within seconds.

More like the the same way anyone else handles rejection from being ugly or small-dcked.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Atlas on June 13, 2021, 08:14:22 AM
Just don't care lmao?

The more you care the more you discredit yourself that you are just a loser, if a woman wants you, she will come back

This also depends if you have an ugly face and a boring|stupid| personality or no.

If you are one of these then just accept and focus on how to make yourself look attractive
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: InFullStryde on June 15, 2021, 04:15:22 PM
In the United States there are 167 Million Woman. If 1% of the population of woman find you attractive enough to go out with on a date...that is 1,670,000, woman that you'll have a shot with.


Workout, Good hygiene, Dress well, Style yourself well, Be Ambitious and build a strong career and rock whatever height you got to the fullest.  Be thankful that you beat the odds and entered into this planet as a healthy human instead of a 3-eyed lizard, lol.   Addionally, your situation could be much worse.  Before CLL, I was a 5'1" business owner of a multi-million dollar company and I had everything going for me. I am the decision maker and in control of the careers and livelihoods of men a foot taller than me.  I have the power because I wanted it and took it. Even my height made me stand out and although being taller would have made me more attractive to woman, I never let height stop me from trying.  I accepted my height as a challenge and guess what? I won the challenge.  With all that said, I still wanted to be taller, so I got CLL and now I'm 5'4, nearly 5'6 in shoes and I'm just nearly unstoppable now.    Your height is not 100% of you...height is just a small percentage of who you ultimately are.  Let the haters hate! You shouldn't mind; you're too busy making money, being handsome, and charming the lady's right?!

Hope all you guys are well! More updates coming soon.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Apollo676 on June 15, 2021, 04:24:32 PM
You are an amazing guy IFS,really an example for everyone to strive towards,i wish i would be half the man you are for real
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: - on June 15, 2021, 07:45:41 PM
In the United States there are 167 Million Woman. If 1% of the population of woman find you attractive enough to go out with on a date...that is 1,670,000, woman that you'll have a shot with.

It's not about the 1% but the 99%.

Your height is not 100% of you...height is just a small percentage of who you ultimately are.

Not trying to be a dck but when you are 5'1", your height is NOT a 'small percentage' of who you are.

With all that said, I still wanted to be taller, so I got CLL and now I'm 5'4, nearly 5'6 in shoes and I'm just nearly unstoppable now.

No one measures height with shoes.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: wants2growtaller on June 16, 2021, 02:00:56 AM
Heighjt is just one characteristics of the person. Its not the whole thing. But because we live in a world that treats people based on what they look like and that judges people by everything humans make it seem like if a person is tall or short thats all they are. We dont live in a kind world. We live in the animal kingdom. Where the strong survivles and the weak get left behind.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: - on June 16, 2021, 08:25:17 AM
Heighjt is just one characteristics of the person. Its not the whole thing. But because we live in a world that treats people based on what they look like and that judges people by everything humans make it seem like if a person is tall or short thats all they are. We dont live in a kind world. We live in the animal kingdom. Where the strong survivles and the weak get left behind.

Honestly, just shut up.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: InFullStryde on June 16, 2021, 06:47:00 PM
Height is just one characteristics of the person. Its not the whole thing. But because we live in a world that treats people based on what they look like and that judges people by everything humans make it seem like if a person is tall or short that's all they are. We don't live in a kind world. We live in the animal kingdom. Where the strong survivles and the weak get left behind.

Being short is very tough.  I WAS 5'1" and still only 5'4", so I understand and can relate to how difficult it is.  Short men are in a position where we must improvise, strategize, compromise and realize much more than the average man.  This very fact also makes us shorter men, stronger in so many ways.  If you can harness the inner strength that difficulty presents in life; you'll surprise yourself on just how great life can get.  I'll emphasize again that a great life, one much better than even the tall man, is still attainable.  I'm living proof of that.   I'm wealthy, attractive to many woman, and I'm powerful. 

One must do everything they they can to not miss great opportunities in life because one is so obsessed with their height.   This is easier said than done.  CLL is an awesome procedure that can help to remedy the height issue.  While we wait for CLL, do not hesitate to refine yourself. Focus on the aspects of your life you CAN control.  You'll thank yourself for it in the future.  If I can do it; so can everyone else.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Fiveandsomething on June 16, 2021, 07:55:28 PM
How do you guys handle rejection by women for being short?
How do you move on?
For me, it stays with me for a long time esp. when I see that most of my friends are able to get dates much more easily..


I usually try to distract by focusing on work


It stays with you MENTALLY, F*ck anyone that tries to tell you otherwise. The only way you can combat that is by being rich and once you get rich you start to see that women ain’t sh*t. I’m 5’7 and muscular with a beard. I know I look good, I’ve been with hundreds of women but there are some women that are “out of my reach” only because they’re taller than me. It’s tough.

If you can save up for Limb Lengthening...Do it...if not I don’t really know what else you can do about it.

Also you have to remember women are not sh**t naturally...and you’ll always be in more demand than a woman. The world was built and is run by men. But we have sexual needs and that’s where women come in.

Don’t be too harsh on yourself. You don’t have to do anything to get your mind just let the   pass. It’s a man world.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Fiveandsomething on June 16, 2021, 08:56:26 PM
If you were 6 feet the same girl will still reject you.You cant be liked by everyone and everyone has flaws.
Bonus advice stop bitching about being rejected by girls on the internet nobody cares.A therapist can listen to your problems and help with your problems!
I hope you have a pleasant day!

There’s saying that goes IF YOU HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY, say nothing. Your response is highly unnecessary and adds 0 value to the topic.

Typical internet gangster. That   sounds like something someone said to you so stop recycling material. Bit**h *Ss
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: YourSpaceBoyfriend on June 17, 2021, 12:05:18 PM
There’s saying that goes IF YOU HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY, say nothing. Your response is highly unnecessary and adds 0 value to the topic.

Typical internet gangster. That   sounds like something someone said to you so stop recycling material. Bit**h *Ss

He is correct doe, this person seriously needs a shrink


Heighjt is just one characteristics of the person. Its not the whole thing. But because we live in a world that treats people based on what they look like and that judges people by everything humans make it seem like if a person is tall or short thats all they are. We dont live in a kind world. We live in the animal kingdom. Where the strong survivles and the weak get left behind.

Tall ≠ strong

Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: - on June 17, 2021, 05:55:24 PM
Tall ≠ strong

With everything else being equal, then the taller is stronger.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Worzezterlire on June 17, 2021, 06:19:11 PM
I don’t know if this helps you guys or not.  I was 5’9 originally and height was almost never a reason for rejection for me.  So for those who have a notion that women require 6’ or higher, most don’t know what 6’ looks like irl since most men lie about height.  Most women thought I was 5’10-11.  I know tons of guys 5’7-8 barefoot who are doing fine with dating.  But they also lie and add an inch to their height.  I imagine it is tough dating below 5’6 but the older you get the less it matters.  Same with being tall.  It matters a lot in your 20s and then becomes less important.

So for those of you with a goal of getting to “average” for your country, your rejection rate for your height will be negligible once you’re average.  Except for dating sites, but those aren’t at all like irl dating anyways.  I met much prettier, nicer, smarter women in person than I ever did on dating sites.  Especially if you’re short I would avoid dating sites.  The prettiest girl I’ve ever been with was taller than me.

I know this is a sensitive topic and I know I probably sound annoying as a 5’9 guy telling shorter men to keep their chins up… but please try to stay optimistic.  Get taller for yourself.  Dating improvements will follow
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Montreal172 on June 17, 2021, 07:04:20 PM
I 100% agree, try to focus on the things in your immediate locus of control:

1- Healthy/Workout/Diet
2- Money
3- Low debt

and when you do, you will acquire that $$$ for LL.

5'7 guy and have dated girls that were 5'10 to 6 ft, its all about your attitude and confidence.
I personally am seeking LL not to get to that magical 6ft, but closer to average.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Worzezterlire on June 17, 2021, 08:27:18 PM
I 100% agree, try to focus on the things in your immediate locus of control:

1- Healthy/Workout/Diet
2- Money
3- Low debt

and when you do, you will acquire that $$$ for LL.

5'7 guy and have dated girls that were 5'10 to 6 ft, its all about your attitude and confidence.
I personally am seeking LL not to get to that magical 6ft, but closer to average.

A very healthy attitude.  I do admit you will probably have an easier time dating once you’re 5’10 but if you were doing fine before I doubt it will be major.  Your height will go from being a small barrier to being a non issue or even a very small plus.  5’10 barefoot men constantly claim 5’11 or 6’ anyways.  You’ll be in a really good spot.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: YourSpaceBoyfriend on June 18, 2021, 02:40:14 AM
With everything else being equal, then the taller is stronger.

That's actually a bad example. Powerlifters can pack more muscle for its weight(to be in certain class) thats why a lot of them are actually short.

It's easy to see if u look at it logically, ofc if u have someone 190cm tall and 170cm the shorter one can pack more muscle in its package if they both weight idk like 70-80kgs.

Lower center of gravity helps too in typical street fight + its even better if u have long reach comparing to your height
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: PerfectBody on June 18, 2021, 05:13:20 AM
That's actually a bad example. Powerlifters can pack more muscle for its weight(to be in certain class) thats why a lot of them are actually short.

It's easy to see if u look at it logically, ofc if u have someone 190cm tall and 170cm the shorter one can pack more muscle in its package if they both weight idk like 70-80kgs.

Lower center of gravity helps too in typical street fight + its even better if u have long reach comparing to your height

Bro I don't think any of this is right. And for what it's worth, women don't care about dudes who pack a ton of muscles - some is enough. A lot deters women. Take it from actual body-builders - a lot of muscles freak most women out.

1. Taller men don't give a damn about powerlifting because they already have what they need to get ahead in life. So sure, they're not lifting as heavy.
2. If two people weigh the same at different height, no sh*t there will be a muscle-mass difference.
3. A taller person will have more reach than a shorter person. Unless youre a BBJ expert, enjoy getting knocked the f*ck out lol.

Think about it - if your arms are 1 inch longer you have proportionately 1 cubic inch of muscle in your arms. The math is more complicated if comparing heights because you have way more than 1 cubic inch of muscle distributed around your body.

No offense buddy but I'm not sure anything you said was correct
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: - on June 18, 2021, 08:36:31 AM
It's easy to see if u look at it logically, ofc if u have someone 190cm tall and 170cm the shorter one can pack more muscle in its package if they both weight idk like 70-80kgs.

Lol if they are both in their ideal weight, then the 190cm would be heavier. I think what you visualize is a 190cm skinny guy and a 170cm bodybuilder lol

its even better if u have long reach comparing to your height

And since when shorter men are likely to have longer arm. lol

Unless youre a BBJ expert, enjoy getting knocked the f*ck out lol.

BJJ bro, not BBJ lol

Even if you're a BJJ expert, the tall big opponent might also be a BJJ expert himself.  The key here is "everything else being equal". But by that not necessarily equal weights but both are in their ideal weights.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: YourSpaceBoyfriend on June 18, 2021, 12:53:37 PM
Bro I don't think any of this is right. And for what it's worth, women don't care about dudes who pack a ton of muscles - some is enough. A lot deters women. Take it from actual body-builders - a lot of muscles freak most women out.

We are talking about being strong, not attractive

1. Taller men don't give a damn about powerlifting because they already have what they need to get ahead in life. So sure, they're not lifting as heavy.

Being tall itself is an advantage in few ares but not as many as people here make u want to believe.

Besides, neither short men have to lift heavy. Hell, short men have easier time building a good physique.

2. If two people weigh the same at different height, no sh*t there will be a muscle-mass difference.

Your point being? I was only answering his statement lol

3. A taller person will have more reach than a shorter person. Unless youre a BBJ expert, enjoy getting knocked the f*ck out lol.

On avg yes, it is true. I just added it as a bonus that helps thats it lol


Lol if they are both in their ideal weight, then the 190cm would be heavier. I think what you visualize is a 190cm skinny guy and a 170cm bodybuilder lol

Then they ain't equal and ur statement is wrong

And since when shorter men are likely to have longer arm. lol

When did i even say that lol?

Lower center of gravity helps too in typical street fight + its even better if u have long reach comparing to your height

Re-read that many times till u get it
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: - on June 18, 2021, 01:05:35 PM
Re-read that many times till u get it

No need. The point is simply that shorter men are physically inferior.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: YourSpaceBoyfriend on June 18, 2021, 01:16:22 PM
No need. The point is simply that shorter men are physically inferior.

Lol

Point is nothing in life is black and white

Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on June 18, 2021, 04:05:26 PM
No need. The point is simply that shorter men are physically inferior.

Unfortulately yeah. :'( Imagine being a girl and choosing between a surfer who's 6'1 and 220 pounds or a 5'8 gym-obsessed roided-up bodybuilder at 220 pounds.

I tried to get buff but quit because it was really hard, life-consuming, and just doesn't matter much.  Go for the LL.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: DonBones on June 18, 2021, 04:26:18 PM
Bro I don't think any of this is right. And for what it's worth, women don't care about dudes who pack a ton of muscles - some is enough. A lot deters women. Take it from actual body-builders - a lot of muscles freak most women out.

1. Taller men don't give a damn about powerlifting because they already have what they need to get ahead in life. So sure, they're not lifting as heavy.
2. If two people weigh the same at different height, no sh*t there will be a muscle-mass difference.
3. A taller person will have more reach than a shorter person. Unless youre a BBJ expert, enjoy getting knocked the f*ck out lol.

Think about it - if your arms are 1 inch longer you have proportionately 1 cubic inch of muscle in your arms. The math is more complicated if comparing heights because you have way more than 1 cubic inch of muscle distributed around your body.

No offense buddy but I'm not sure anything you said was correct

Had the same notion for a long time - that a long reach guarantees victory. Then I saw Khabib down McGregor before choking him out for good. There was a time when the world looked at McGregor in awe, giving him god-like status as if he was invincible. Khabib kind of ended that period in McGregor's career then and there.

Being impressed, I did some research after and learned that one of the best boxers of all time, Rocky Marciano, had a reach that was 2 inches shorter than his height.

Not saying that being short is better or anything, as it certainly is not all things considered, but long arms or stature do not guarantee victory in a fight with another man. There will be the Khabibs and Marcianos who have learned to find their way around long arms.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: YourSpaceBoyfriend on June 18, 2021, 08:40:34 PM
Unfortulately yeah. :'( Imagine being a girl and choosing between a surfer who's 6'1 and 220 pounds or a 5'8 gym-obsessed roided-up bodybuilder at 220 pounds.

Imagine being a girl and choosing between well built, chiseled jawline who is 173cm/70kg and 185cm basement nerd who is also 70kg

We can give borderline examples like that forever, problem is it still proves my point, nothing in life is black and white and u will never have someone equal but better in only height.

I'm not trying to prove that being short is as good as being tall. I'm only trying to prove that being short isn't as nearly as bad as some people say it is

Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: - on June 18, 2021, 09:36:00 PM
Lol

Point is nothing in life is black and white

There is. Short and tall are pretty much black and white.

We can give borderline examples like that forever, problem is it still proves my point, nothing in life is black and white and u will never have someone equal but better in only height.

A long time ago, I used to think exactly like this. Why? Because I wasn't ready to face the truth that my height is a legit handicap which puts me at a greater disadvantage than I initially thought.

That's why I always looked for reasoning like shorter = easier to gain muscle or something like that. Making up bull s basically. But in the end, the problem is legit and never solved.

Unfortulately yeah. :'( Imagine being a girl and choosing between a surfer who's 6'1 and 220 pounds or a 5'8 gym-obsessed roided-up bodybuilder at 220 pounds.

I tried to get buff but quit because it was really hard, life-consuming, and just doesn't matter much.  Go for the LL.

Anyway, nothing's preventing the 6'1" surfer from going to the GYM as well.

Had the same notion for a long time - that a long reach guarantees victory. Then I saw Khabib down McGregor before choking him out for good. There was a time when the world looked at McGregor in awe, giving him god-like status as if he was invincible. Khabib kind of ended that period in McGregor's career then and there.

Being impressed, I did some research after and learned that one of the best boxers of all time, Rocky Marciano, had a reach that was 2 inches shorter than his height.

Not saying that being short is better or anything, as it certainly is not all things considered, but long arms or stature do not guarantee victory in a fight with another man. There will be the Khabibs and Marcianos who have learned to find their way around long arms.

Nothing is guaranteed. Just because the fighter who has shorter arms but more skilled wins doesn't mean it's not a disadvantage. Khabib is tall for his weight class by the way. He's taller than McGregor.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: YourSpaceBoyfriend on June 18, 2021, 09:43:43 PM
There is. Short and tall are pretty much black and white.

Because that's the only traits people have lol

Besides u can be tall in one country and short in another. You can be short for someone even doe u think ur tall.

Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: - on June 18, 2021, 09:46:54 PM
Because that's the only traits people have lol

Besides u can be tall in one country and short in another. You can be short for someone even doe u think ur tall.

Lol this is an even bigger joke. So a 5'7" white man should move to Cambodia or some place like that just so he can feel tall/normal. lol

Where should a 5'3" man move to to feel normal?
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: YourSpaceBoyfriend on June 18, 2021, 09:49:06 PM
Lol this is an even bigger joke. So a 5'7" white man should move to Cambodia or some place like that just so he can feel tall/normal. lol

Where should a 5'3" man move to to feel normal?

Again, i never said that. I love how u make up stuff towards my arguments just so it will suit ur extreme cases.

Height is objective, being short/tall is subjective. Shades of grey.

A long time ago, I used to think exactly like this. Why? Because I wasn't ready to face the truth that my height is a legit handicap which puts me at a greater disadvantage than I initially thought.
That's why I always looked for reasoning like shorter = easier to gain muscle or something like that. Making up bull s basically. But in the end, the problem is legit and never solved.

I don't think ur height is ur handicap
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: BetzLandLiberator on June 19, 2021, 12:22:22 AM
How do you guys handle rejection by women for being short?
How do you move on?
For me, it stays with me for a long time esp. when I see that most of my friends are able to get dates much more easily..


I usually try to distract by focusing on work

First of all, you have to check if you were actually rejected for being short or not.
Women tend to be very vocal and explicit when they reject someone for being short - they will tell you, to your face, that you are too short.

If she didn't, it's not because of your height, but for some other reason and you have to improve this, otherwise you will be frustrated with LL when you discover it won't fix all of your dating problems.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Sorcerer on June 11, 2023, 08:49:11 PM
I mean why you need to retain this   in your mind? Being rejected in dating is pretty normal and you should be mentally prepared for getting rejected unless you have 188cm Brad Pitt face billions of dollars etc.. If you are afraid of getting rejected just don't date.

And just like someone else said, you could still get rejected after getting taller by LL, but if you don't have other  s of course the chance of getting rejected will decrease a lot.

Also, I agree with YourSpaceBoyFriend. Lots of people here are overestimating the benefits of being tall. Of course being tall benefits a lot in dating and self-esteem, in some cases occupations of course, but don't treat like you gotta be average/tall otherwise you don't deserve to live. If you are insane at your pre-LL height, you will still be insane after LL.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Body Builder on June 11, 2023, 11:52:43 PM
Unfortulately yeah. :'( Imagine being a girl and choosing between a surfer who's 6'1 and 220 pounds or a 5'8 gym-obsessed roided-up bodybuilder at 220 pounds.

I tried to get buff but quit because it was really hard, life-consuming, and just doesn't matter much.  Go for the LL.
Although 2 years after, between these two first of all the genetic superior is someone who packed 220 pounds full of muscles at 5.8 compared to a skinny surfer who most of the times looks like a sissy.
And that has nothing to with what some random girl would prefer. Megan Fox dated the clown called MGK, that doesn't mean that he is superior genetically or that a true man should look like him.
And yes, muscles are important for a man. Not to extreme full of roids degree but always a man with a wide back amd some big arms will look superior to the average man, even he is shorter but still anout average at height.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: NailedLegs on June 12, 2023, 04:04:04 AM
Although 2 years after, between these two first of all the genetic superior is someone who packed 220 pounds full of muscles at 5.8 compared to a skinny surfer who most of the times looks like a sissy.
And that has nothing to with what some random girl would prefer. Megan Fox dated the clown called MGK, that doesn't mean that he is superior genetically or that a true man should look like him.
And yes, muscles are important for a man. Not to extreme full of roids degree but always a man with a wide back amd some big arms will look superior to the average man, even he is shorter but still anout average at height.

It depends on the context, and male-gaze vs female-gaze.

I love lifting and follow professional bodybuilding, but I'll be honest. Most women really just want a """ripped""" guy with abs. Having abs is the #1 most important thing to a woman when it comes to physique. Of course, we men care about the chest, how the back flows into the v-taper, the calves(most women do not care about this lol), bicep peaks, quad sweep, etc. Perhaps women care about things like shoulders and traps after since it helps to build your frame and a wide neck is masculine/dominant looking, but unironically having abs is going to be the #1 thing that women care about. Men care about striations in the hamstrings, women do not, lol. Only a small niche of women would prefer the opposite.

So in a romantic aspect, the surfer dude would likely win.

In a gladiator fight, the gym rat would likely win.

Does that mean one is "genetically superior" to another? I don't know, or I don't think so.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uWlska4TIPw

edit;

I forgot to add, women do not care about how much you can bench/squat/deadlift. The only women that do are other gymrats...specifically the actual ones. Not the girls that just do cardio or weird "booty blaster exercises" they found on some strange instagram fitness page, riddled with "buy my tea!" and other products, mlms, and scams. Most women that go to the gym don't benchpress...so why would you expect them to care how much you can? Men, on the other hand, would absolutely love to talk about it. Even men that don't anymore. How often have you heard "Back in my day, I could bench 475!"

The point that I'm making is that the male-gaze and female-gaze are different. But we can all agree, height will absolutely boost your attractiveness lol.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: Body Builder on June 12, 2023, 07:46:29 AM
I never said that women care how much you bench press or squat because of course they don't.
But no, women don't look first the abs in a man's appearance.
 They look the v shape in his upper body, his arms and then his chest and abs.
I am not saying of.course that a man with a huge belly is attractive because he may have a wide back but if he has an almost flat belly, even withoyt visible abs, he would be perfect for most women of he has the other thimgs I mentioned.
After all abs can't be seen with clothes on while back, arms etc can.

And maybe in usa women would prefer the sissy like types of wind surfing boys I don't know but in Europe, especially in the east, women want strong men and would never consider dating a surfer type guy.
Title: Re: Handling rejection by girls for being short
Post by: NailedLegs on June 12, 2023, 09:29:34 PM
I never said that women care how much you bench press or squat because of course they don't.
But no, women don't look first the abs in a man's appearance.
 They look the v shape in his upper body, his arms and then his chest and abs.
I am not saying of.course that a man with a huge belly is attractive because he may have a wide back but if he has an almost flat belly, even withoyt visible abs, he would be perfect for most women of he has the other thimgs I mentioned.
After all abs can't be seen with clothes on while back, arms etc can.

And maybe in usa women would prefer the sissy like types of wind surfing boys I don't know but in Europe, especially in the east, women want strong men and would never consider dating a surfer type guy.

I see what you mean. There could be a difference between EE and the USA for the things you mentioned.

Another important point is that abs are not just about the abs themselves, but being lean, and being lean = better facial features. Especially on a man where a defined jawline is incredibly important for attraction, being lean will help immensely with that. Less general bloat, too, which will help with the "hollow cheeks" effect (buccal fat removal is a procedure some do instead of losing weight, but it's terrible in the long term)