Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: LLuser1 on July 28, 2016, 11:53:56 PM
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Some people die after LL surgery or become crippled because they are mislead by unethical doctors.
Young people whose lives have been destroyed
https://www.naij.com/655056-indian-doctors-killed-nigerian-girl-india.html
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/they-let-my-daughter-die-as-i-watched-in-horror-mother-of-uniabuja-graduate/
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Appoint-JNAFAU-VC-by-June/articleshow/51917509.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Doctors-in-dock-over-Hyderabad-techies-height-surgery/articleshow/51721493.cms
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Allright?
I think it's something that everybody knows.
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And will continue dying while wrong doctors operate on patients.
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First two links are about the same girl. Third link is not about LL at all.
Other than that, useful info...good job.
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I doubt those doctors were even qualified for LL. Even Sarin isn't that bad.
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I doubt those doctors were even qualified for LL. Even Sarin isn't that bad.
And it sounds like the girl possibly died from not being prescribed a blood thinner. The guy that posted a thread about avoiding taking warfarin during CLL needs to take note...
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And it sounds like the girl possibly died from not being prescribed a blood thinner. The guy that posted a thread about avoiding taking warfarin during CLL needs to take note...
blood thinner = heparine shots... Guess who forgets heparine shots. Surgeons who forget prescribing meds put their patients' lives into risk.
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Third link, I wanted to post a different link from that newspaper. I will check later
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Some people die after LL surgery or become crippled because they are mislead by unethical doctors.
Young people whose lives have been destroyed
https://www.naij.com/655056-indian-doctors-killed-nigerian-girl-india.html
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/01/they-let-my-daughter-die-as-i-watched-in-horror-mother-of-uniabuja-graduate/
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Appoint-JNAFAU-VC-by-June/articleshow/51917509.cms
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Doctors-in-dock-over-Hyderabad-techies-height-surgery/articleshow/51721493.cms
really, that's so sad and disheartening news than.
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Some people in this forum are not aware of the negative consequences this surgery may have on them. They can loose their lives or their limbs unfortunately, especially if you go to unskilled doctors but this can happen everywhere.
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Some people in this forum are not aware of the negative consequences this surgery may have on them. They can loose their lives or their limbs unfortunately, especially if you go to unskilled doctors but this can happen everywhere.
I've never seen anything that suggests the risk of death is higher for LL versus any other major surgical procedure.
Hell, gall bladder removal surgery is one of the riskiest surgeries on the planet (in terms of death rates), and is still routinely performed.
.4% death rate (one death for every 250 surgeries):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8443723
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Some people in this forum are not aware of the negative consequences this surgery may have on them. They can loose their lives or their limbs unfortunately, especially if you go to unskilled doctors but this can happen everywhere.
What is up with your recent anti LL crusade?
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What is up with your recent anti LL crusade?
It's not recent. He made his first post slamming doctors (specifically Dr. Monegal) way back on December 7th, 2015. On a thread about Dr. Paley nonetheless.
Don't feed the troll.
With that said, this is actually a good post he did. People need to understand and see the negative side of LL.
I bet money this thread goes off the rails before it reaches page 2 though...
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Before he sticked to Monegal only now he jumped on whole LL industry.
As long as i understand the need to show negative side of LL(which im highly for) but then the actual form of showing it is just... 2 links about the same person and the third one is just wtf.
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Before he sticked to Monegal only now he jumped on whole LL industry.
As long as i understand the need to show negative side of LL(which im highly for) but then the actual form of showing it is just... 2 links about the same person and the third one is just wtf.
There's only 1 example of a death from LL (the 2 links) because after lots of searching myself, that is the only example of an LL related death I can find. I assume the OP couldn't find any others either.
Which kinda proves how "deadly" LL can be, just not in the way OP was hoping for, lol.
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People die crossing the road too if they don't do it right. I haven't seen a single case where a patient lost their limb going to even a bad, somewhat well known doctor. Even the bad cases are walking. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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It's quite obvious that OP started this thread with the solely purpose of including a veiled reference to his very beloved doctor, which he already did at post #7
Other than that, as it has already been said, LL is a quite common surgery. Cosmetic cases are still relatively scarce, but there are surgeries for kids with dwarfism, or people with shortened limbs after an accident, etc... Therefore, 1 or 2 deaths are statistically unavoidable. Hell, you can even google some cases of kids killed after routine dental procedures.
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LLUser1 - what created the concern troll? What's your backstory, Cassandra?
PS (for the record) I'm conflicted++, worrying whether CLL is worth the risk/hassle at my height & stage of life ... but I just wondered, what happened to you?
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Such a dumb topic.. more Americans die from eating pizza than CLL.
He probably thinks he's doing us a favor by posting some crappy links, trying to scare you guys. At least there's beginning to be a larger backlash against his behavior in recent months.
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There are alot of negative outcomes which are not reported! Most people would rather keep it to themselves than to be ganged on with critics who have no idea of the misery they have to endure for the rest of their lives.
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Such a dumb topic.. more Americans die from eating pizza than CLL.
He probably thinks he's doing us a favor by posting some crappy links, trying to scare you guys. At least there's beginning to be a larger backlash against his behavior in recent months.
I think the only benefit to the community from his links is proving the point = don't go to an unqualified doc just because they are cheaper. Save the money and pick a good doc!
PS (for the record) I'm conflicted++, worrying whether CLL is worth the risk/hassle at my height & stage of life ...
I know those feelz...
Now that I've mostly gotten over the depression and height neurosis, I'm back to my old self, and I get plenty of attention from women...which is the only reason I considered LL in the first place. (seems most don't like to say they do this for women, but I'll be the first to admit that's really my only reason, despite warnings from members here whom I respect that have warned me against doing it for women)
Still, I have a consultation scheduled...
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Now that I've mostly gotten over the depression and height neurosis, I'm back to my old self, and I get plenty of attention from women...which is the only reason I considered LL in the first place. (seems most don't like to say they do this for women, but I'll be the first to admit that's really my only reason, despite warnings from members here whom I respect that have warned me against doing it for women)
Imo people actually *short*, 5'5 and below in the US or something like that do it for social standing in general. I don't like 13 year old boys having half a foot over me.
And aren't you married? Dog :P
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I think the only benefit to the community from his links is proving the point = don't go to an unqualified doc just because they are cheaper. Save the money and pick a good doc!
I know those feelz...
Now that I've mostly gotten over the depression and height neurosis, I'm back to my old self, and I get plenty of attention from women...which is the only reason I considered LL in the first place. (seems most don't like to say they do this for women, but I'll be the first to admit that's really my only reason, despite warnings from members here whom I respect that have warned me against doing it for women)
Still, I have a consultation scheduled...
which doc? :P
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Imo people actually *short*, 5'5 and below in the US or something like that do it for social standing in general. I don't like 13 year old boys having half a foot over me.
I agree with this, it just doesn't apply to me beings that I am just under 5'8
And aren't you married? Dog :P
Haha, yeah...
which doc? :P
With the current atmosphere in this forum, I'd rather not say.
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I agree with this, it just doesn't apply to me beings that I am just under 5'8
Haha, yeah...
With the current atmosphere in this forum, I'd rather not say.
PM me, I think we are considering the same doctor xD
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With the current atmosphere in this forum, I'd rather not say.
Monegal confirmed.
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Monegal confirmed.
No, what I mean is that someone from this forum took the time and effort to ID me and sent both me and my wife Facebook messages this weekend.
So my time here is limited.
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Crappy links? Only instances of LL deaths?? Not at all! Those are recent examples but there are many old ones too!
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No, what I mean is that someone from this forum took the time and effort to ID me and sent both me and my wife Facebook messages this weekend.
So my time here is limited.
yourspaceboyfriend,
I'm at my 3 PM limit for the forum, this is what was said:
I got a message from some guy in Turkey that said, "ur ccmidwest from the forum?"
The message to my wife was, "do you no [my real name]?"
I ignored both messages, and will continue to ignore any messages from him in the future.
Edit: I got a friend request from some hot chick in Turkey at almost the same time. I assume it was related. Wife was NOT happy, lol.
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Yes. Crappy links. One death from a non lo surgery, another one about a guy who is angry that ll hurts and that's it. Ohh yeah... Beside that you spam about cooper and friends or about two betz patients. We got it. So instead of spamming useless data, commenting on threads from 2014/2015 either post some useful/new data or just go to a shrink to cure your out of control psychosis
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Yes. Crappy links. One death from a non lo surgery, another one about a guy who is angry that ll hurts and that's it. Ohh yeah... Beside that you spam about cooper and friends or about two betz patients. We got it. So instead of spamming useless data, commenting on threads from 2014/2015 either post some useful/new data or just go to a shrink to cure your out of control psychosis
Tibike are you really a future doctor? You don't seem intelligent and it's you the mental case not me with that relative account and your changes of mind. You aren't coherent.
Why do you say the link about the girl is not about LL surgery? She had to lengthen one of her legs, shortened in a previous accident. It's LL surgery. Perhaps not cosmetic but LL surgery...
And let me tell you something. You should read posts by Metanoia. Cosmetic cases become medical cases very often because limbs get fractured or misaligned or whatever and you can die or get crippled as a consequence of it.
You start as a cosmetic patient but then you become a medical case. It can be a very slow death, taking years and several surgeries.
In some cases you die straight after first CLL procedure.
I will post more links about LL complications and deaths.
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I am very coherent and I dont go around for a year posting the same over and over and over and over again. You suffer from a severe case of obsessive psychosis, caused by your will to do LL (as you told me via pm) tackled with your unimaginable fear from it. So instead of trying to quell your psycosis by posting crap on this forum (and you post it in order to convince yourself by trying convincing the users here) that LL is too dangerous or not worth it, go to a shrink, tell him about the conflict between your will to do LL and the fear from it, and save us the time. I subscribed to the forum to get info, and not to become your therapy (which is clearly not working if you keep posting the same again and again.
Buttom line is that you want LL so bad, are jealous of the actual and post LL patients to a level of insanity, and you cant accept that other people will do it while you shake in fear like a little psychotic lunatic loser.
. Get a life, hooby, gf...something... But firstly, get help ASAP
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I bet money this thread goes off the rails before it reaches page 2 though...
Told ya
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Now that I've mostly gotten over the depression and height neurosis, I'm back to my old self, and I get plenty of attention from women...which is the only reason I considered LL in the first place. (seems most don't like to say they do this for women, but I'll be the first to admit that's really my only reason, despite warnings from members here whom I respect that have warned me against doing it for women)
Still, I have a consultation scheduled...
I knew it all along. You constantly denied and denied again. But in the end you are on this site because you want to have LL surgery lol
Good for you man
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I knew it all along. You constantly denied and denied again. But in the end you are on this site because you want to have LL surgery lol
Good for you man
Haha...you're not wrong.
Well, after all the research I have done, I figure I owe it to myself to actually go in for a consultation. Either I will be scared off at that point, or it will solidify my decision to do it.
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It depends. There are cases of people crippled with any kind of surgey. If you go to a good doctor that do a lot of cases is more probably that you will have a good outcome.
If you want to do it by the saffest way do Internal Femurs in a developed country
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Everyone with a half a brain understand that this surgery is dangerous and has its risks. The question is whether these risks are at an acceptable level.
I honestly think that there are some ways of lowering the risks (do internal femurs with a good doctor, don't lengthen too much, eat healthy, don't smoke, do PT during lengthening, etc...) It's like doing bungee jumping. It can kill you, and every year someone dies, but if you hire an experienced instructor, use a good safety harness, choose the location safely, etc, the risks are tolerable.
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Why were the posts deleted?
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Is strange, why were deleted?
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It's strange, even my post asking music maker why she was defending LLuser was deleted. There's something sketchy about that whole monegal group
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Nvm