Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: yyes on November 03, 2016, 06:32:32 PM
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Hi guys, I am 27 years of age and I am looking to increase my height in the next 2 or 3 years.
I am trying to decide on Dr Paley or Dr Guichet. My biggest concern is that I want a positive outcome and obviously if money is cheaper with one over the other then that would help out as well. I am currently 5'8 or 5'9 in the morning and wear lifts which bring me up to the 5'9 -5'10 range.
I play sports on the regular and I am wondering what the long term complications are if I were to have this procedure. Will i be in pain for the rest of my life assuming that everything turns out 'well'? I make roughly 60k a year and to me Id rather spend money on this than on a new car or a big house etc.
So im basically trying to go from 5'8 to 5'10.
Assuming I go through with this do you guys expect my life to be significantly improved? Others that have gone through this, did your dating life improve, etc?
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I suggest reading diaries to see how people perform after the surgery and after recovery.
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If you can afford Paley go, Guitchet is an excellent doctor, but for me Paley is the best right now in terms of ability for this surgery.
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I think Birkholtz is a great choice.
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Amount you lengthen will affect recovery. If you do 5 cm with paley you will probably have 90% of former abilities back 1.5 years. There is always the possibility that your never 100% but you should regain most functioning back especially with internal you will have a faster recovery.
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I am thinking maybe two inches to grow. However, I have another question. If I go with Paley I can prob have ability in 1.5 years.
What if I went to Guitchet? He is 50k cheaper isnt he? I thought I saw he charged 50k for surgery on both legs.
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Dr Paley is considered by most as the best in the world. Dr Guichet is a good doctor as well.
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I am thinking maybe two inches to grow. However, I have another question. If I go with Paley I can prob have ability in 1.5 years.
What if I went to Guitchet? He is 50k cheaper isnt he? I thought I saw he charged 50k for surgery on both legs.
Well Birkholtz or Parihar are using the same nail as Paley and are waaay cheaper than him and Guichet. Also you need to decide if you want to use Clicking nail or Precise(which is a bit more comfortable).
Two inches is pretty reasonable but you need to keep it in mind that not only part of your athletic abilities will drop but recovery takes time too.
And no, Limb Lengthening won't solve your life problems. If you can't score at 5'8 you probably won't score with that 2 additional inches. This surgery only makes you taller.
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And no, Limb Lengthening won't solve your life problems. If you can't score at 5'8 you probably won't score with that 2 additional inches. This surgery only makes you taller.
^ This!
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Also you need to decide if you want to use Clicking nail or Precise(which is a bit more comfortable).
A bit more comfortable. Try more along the lines of the difference between being put on the rack in medieval times or simply holding the equivalent of an xbox controller on your legs for a couple minutes a day. There's a reason the Guichet nail is called the "twist & shout method"
So is the Betz nail but only a dumbass would go to that guy or use his piece of sh*t nail....
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I am in exactly the same situation as you. I am 27 and my height is between 5.8 and 5.9. and all I want is 5.10 that's it nothing more. I think both guitchet and paley are very competent doctors and it shouldnt be a problem going to either of them from what I've gathered after reading a few diaries especially Yellowspike, Programmedude, dreamcatcher and unicorn.
I would personally prefer guitchet given that I am based in Europe already and can save up quite a lot.
Also, I haven't come across any case where someone has only done 2 inches max internal femurs to get an idea about their recovery and athletic abilities. I feel that a recovery would be a lot faster with lesser likelihood of complications for 2 inches (no more) with either of these doctors
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Also, I haven't come across any case where someone has only done 2 inches max internal femurs to get an idea about their recovery and athletic abilities. I feel that a recovery would be a lot faster with lesser likelihood of complications for 2 inches (no more) with either of these doctors
Oldiebutgoldie did 6cm with Betz.
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I am in exactly the same situation as you. I am 27 and my height is between 5.8 and 5.9. and all I want is 5.10 that's it nothing more. I think both guitchet and paley are very competent doctors and it shouldnt be a problem going to either of them from what I've gathered after reading a few diaries especially Yellowspike, Programmedude, dreamcatcher and unicorn.
I would personally prefer guitchet given that I am based in Europe already and can save up quite a lot.
Also, I haven't come across any case where someone has only done 2 inches max internal femurs to get an idea about their recovery and athletic abilities. I feel that a recovery would be a lot faster with lesser likelihood of complications for 2 inches (no more) with either of these doctors
Nice. I plan on not telling anyone and just dissapearing for a year. How long will I be out for ? If I go with Paley, how long before I can walk normally?
If i go to Guitchet, will it be longer because he uses different tech?
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Nice. I plan on not telling anyone and just dissapearing for a year. How long will I be out for ? If I go with Paley, how long before I can walk normally?
If i go to Guitchet, will it be longer because he uses different tech?
I think a year is a realistic plan if you stick to 2 inches and not even a mm more, I plan on doing the same. IMO, both guitchet and paley are more or less the same recovery time. I am not too sure how long before you start walking but I'll say give yourself 3.5 months.
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You're the guy who posted a while back the exact same thread wondering if it would make a difference...
At the very least I'm surprised you're still here, but I'm more surprised you're still asking these questions you should already know the answer too. Shows your in part not ready for LL...
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I think a year is a realistic plan if you stick to 2 inches and not even a mm more, I plan on doing the same. IMO, both guitchet and paley are more or less the same recovery time. I am not too sure how long before you start walking but I'll say give yourself 3.5 months.
So regardless of what doctor I use, the recovery time will be the same?
I guess I dont understand why I wouldnt just save myself 50k and go to Guichet. Hes 1/2 the price.
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Isn't it 65k euro vs 85-100k dollars?
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You're the guy who posted a while back the exact same thread wondering if it would make a difference...
At the very least I'm surprised you're still here, but I'm more surprised you're still asking these questions you should already know the answer too. Shows your in part not ready for LL...
Can you reference a case who has only lengthened 2 inches max internal femurs? I guess no as you would have answered it in that thread so it's still an unanswered "question". I am not talking about any guesstimates like grow a certain length at a certain rate etc but will be more convinced after seeing someone who has lengthened 2 inches max so I am hoping that I might see a diary like that.
As for me still being here I am not looking to do this any sooner than another year so why wouldn't I still explore more about this topic and enhance my understanding?
Besides I am in a very similar situation as "YYES" with same height, age, goals etc.
By the way, I wasn't the one who started the thread it was "drvbmc". But you are right, I am not completely ready yet as I am not fully equipped with the information I am after.
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So regardless of what doctor I use, the recovery time will be the same?
I guess I dont understand why I wouldnt just save myself 50k and go to Guichet. Hes 1/2 the price.
I read £50K in someone's diary which was in year 2014 I think. Around that time the GBP was strong against US dollar and Euro. But it has depreciated a lot since brexit so the difference between guitchet and paley will be more prominent if guitchet quotes his rates in GBP.
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Can you reference a case who has only lengthened 2 inches max internal femurs? I guess no as you would have answered it in that thread so it's still an unanswered "question". I am not talking about any guesstimates like grow a certain length at a certain rate etc but will be more convinced after seeing someone who has lengthened 2 inches max so I am hoping that I might see a diary like that.
As for me still being here I am not looking to do this any sooner than another year so why wouldn't I still explore more about this topic and enhance my understanding?
Besides I am in a very similar situation as "YYES" with same height, age, goals etc.
By the way, I wasn't the one who started the thread it was "drvbmc". But you are right, I am not completely ready yet as I am not fully equipped with the information I am after.
I think he was referring to me. lol.
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Can you reference a case who has only lengthened 2 inches max internal femurs? I guess no as you would have answered it in that thread so it's still an unanswered "question".
Dream_catcher lengthened 2 inches with Dr. guichet this summer.
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So regardless of what doctor I use, the recovery time will be the same?
I guess I dont understand why I wouldnt just save myself 50k and go to Guichet. Hes 1/2 the price.
i belive Guichet has a faster recovery, but Paley has faster better action when some complication occurred
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i belive Guichet has a faster recovery, but Paley has faster better action when some complication occurred
Because why? Are you going to finally answer why guichet can make your recovery faster than any other nail or you will still pull out that "facts" from your arse?
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Because why? Are you going to finally answer why guichet can make your recovery faster than any other nail or you will still pull out that "facts" from your arse?
maybe you see from your arse, i said i "believe" its not a fact, and the best recovery patients did LL with Guichet and jut run post 6 months, most of them back to normal walking post 5-6 months. just read his diary before bringing your nonsense
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the best recovery patients did LL with Guichet
That statement is flat out bullish*t! Most of the time you have absolutely no clue what the fu*k you are talking about...
There are a lot of patients of Dr. Guichet that took his bad advice and lengthened 10cm just on their femurs. You don't hear much about them on this forum, but they are out there in quite large numbers, and are not doing well at all!
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How do you know about these people lengthening 10 cm and who now are not fine, if they are not here telling their stories? I'm asking because I pretty much think Guichet is the best doctor out there when it comes to lengthening and his method is the faster and safer one, comparing to external methods. I'm 1.50 cm, and the increase of about 10 cm is the minimum to me. I don't want to do tibias, cause they take much longer to recover and can give more complications. So, if you really know about case which didn't go well and aren't just trolling, I would apprecciate if you could be more specific about it. The purpose of forum like this is to help people into lengthening to clarify their mind and avoid mistakes which could ruin their life forever.
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How do you know about these people lengthening 10 cm and who now are not fine, if they are not here telling their stories? I'm asking because I pretty much think Guichet is the best doctor out there when it comes to lengthening and his method is the faster and safer one, comparing to external methods. I'm 1.50 cm, and the increase of about 10 cm is the minimum to me. I don't want to do tibias, cause they take much longer to recover and can give more complications. So, if you really know about case which didn't go well and aren't just trolling, I would apprecciate if you could be more specific about it. The purpose of forum like this is to help people into lengthening to clarify their mind and avoid mistakes which could ruin their life forever.
Please don't do 10cm in one segment. I used to be like "Yeah I'm doing 8-9 cm on my tibias" until I dug deep in to some diaries and spent hours reading and seeing the disasters that came with some people going beyond 6cm.
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Doing 10 cm on tibias is just very risky. But doing it on femurs, it's a whole different thing. Femurs take much less to recover, so lengthening 10 cm doesn't seem so exaggerated. Plus, Guichet is the only doctor known for requiring pre-op training till you don't gain a specific amount of muscular mass, which decreases risks by a lot. Do you know some diary from a Guichet patient who has lengthened 10 cm on femurs and has had permanant complications? This guy above always says to know many patients who had bad experiences with X doctor, but it doesn't seem very believable. There must to be some testimonials/diary on this topic, from people who have personally had this kind of experience.
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Doing 10 cm on tibias is just very risky. But doing it on femurs, it's a whole different thing. Femurs take much less to recover, so lengthening 10 cm doesn't seem so exaggerated. Plus, Guichet is the only doctor known for requiring pre-op training till you don't gain a specific amount of muscular mass, which decreases risks by a lot. Do you know some diary from a Guichet patient who has lengthened 10 cm on femurs and has had permanant complications? This guy above always says to know many patients who had bad experiences with X doctor, but it doesn't seem very believable. There must to be some testimonials/diary on this topic, from people who have personally had this kind of experience.
10cm on femurs is still high risk. Just ask around.
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I think that the more you lengthen, the more risks you will face. That's logical. But doing it on femurs is still way safer than lengthening 10 cm on tibias and the Guichet preparation should minimize risks as much as it humanly possible. When you start from a very low height like me, everything is harder. The people here who only need 5 cm to be fine with themselves don't even know how luckly they are. I have not such luxury and I have chosen the best doctor and the safer operation, cause I need to lengthen significantly more than average. Is there not personal testimonials on this matter? You know, asking around to people who have not experience, it is no as reliable as having advices from people who have done the same thing I plan to do.
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But doing it on femurs is still way safer than lengthening 10 cm on tibias and the Guichet preparation should minimize risks as much as it humanly possible.
No, femurs are not safer. They do however(assumed internal method) provide more comfort, faster consolidation, and less scarring (which I imagine is the biggest selling point for women).
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They're safer too. The muscular mass is like a cushion protecting the bone (which is why Guichet cares so much about increasing it) and the internal method makes you much less vulnerable to infections than the external one. About the scars.It's true that this operation cause much less scars than the tibias one, which is very important, but there are the type of scars caused by strengthening of the skin during the lengthening (stretch-marks). So, maybe I won't have problem with operation scars, but I will worry about lengthening scars. The problem is still there, in one way or the other lol Luckily, I know a good cream to prevent these kind of marks, and in the worst scenario, there is always laser. Among all the mental problems I have since my childhood, for my low height, and the risks I will face with the operation, the marks are the last issue.
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Annalisa - Tell me someone who has lengthened 10cm on a single segment and has 0 complications now and is recovered.
o wait there are none cause they all suffered serious complications and stopped updating their diary's.
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They're safer too. The muscular mass is like a cushion protecting the bone (which is why Guichet cares so much about increasing it) and the internal method makes you much less vulnerable to infections than the external one. About the scars.It's true that this operation cause much less scars than the tibias one, which is very important, but there are the type of scars caused by strengthening of the skin during the lengthening (stretch-marks). So, maybe I won't have problem with operation scars, but I will worry about lengthening scars. The problem is still there, in one way or the other lol Luckily, I know a good cream to prevent these kind of marks, and in the worst scenario, there is always laser. Among all the mental problems I have since my childhood, for my low height, and the risks I will face with the operation, the marks are the last issue.
As I read your comment just now I realized that I had this exact exchange with you some time ago in the past and, respectfully, I don't think you quite understand. Increased muscle mass may help with internal femurs for the reasons you mentioned, but there is not a parallel with externals. What I mean to say is that the lack of muscle on your tibias is not a bad thing, in fact it is a good thing.
As far as infections go some people never get one, but when they do appear they are easily remedied with daily bandage change and perhaps antibiotics.
-I'm sure the stretch marks will not be an issue if you use cream every day.