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Title: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Moon knight on December 03, 2017, 07:18:33 PM
as the question above says what is everyones thoughts on this like would 5cm + 5 cm be ok on both femurs and tibula be ok thanks
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Sweden on December 03, 2017, 08:06:07 PM
I can run and play sports. I did 7cm.

On tibias: no more than 4cm

Femurs: 5cm.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Tiger9898 on December 03, 2017, 08:19:09 PM
Hello,When did u have operation?  And which doctor?
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Moon knight on December 03, 2017, 09:00:05 PM
I can run and play sports. I did 7cm.

On tibias: no more than 4cm

Femurs: 5cm.

did you do two surgeries like get 4 on tibias and 5 on femurs or something like that or did you just have on surgery on one segment thanks
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Android on December 03, 2017, 09:35:03 PM
Tiger9898, Mcooley828: your questions are answered in Sweden's signature.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: IwannaBeTaller on December 03, 2017, 11:48:18 PM
0.2 cm
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Body Builder on December 04, 2017, 12:53:09 AM
Even with 6-7 cm you can still play sports. 2 cm less make no real difference, what matters more is a normal bone alignment, and to avoid extra surgeries like atl.

Of course after LL you can't reach professional levels at ANY sport but still you can play for your fun.

So avoid doing more than 6cm on tibias and 7 on femurs and you'll be ok for your everyday activities.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: IwannaBeTaller on December 04, 2017, 11:22:16 AM
Will I still be able to walk up 5 stairs if I lengthen 0.4 cm?
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Moon knight on December 04, 2017, 02:51:20 PM
Even with 6-7 cm you can still play sports. 2 cm less make no real difference, what matters more is a normal bone alignment, and to avoid extra surgeries like atl.

Of course after LL you can't reach professional levels at ANY sport but still you can play for your fun.

So avoid doing more than 6cm on tibias and 7 on femurs and you'll be ok for your everyday activities.

so realistically should someone do like 4cm + 4cm or 5cm + 5cm then to make the bone alignment ok for sports
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Body Builder on December 04, 2017, 03:07:54 PM
so realistically should someone do like 4cm + 4cm or 5cm + 5cm then to make the bone alignment ok for sports
Bone alignment means straight bones.
I am not talking about bone ratio between tibias and femurs. I am talking about avoiding malunions.
Although I think that doing both segment for instance 3 cm on each will alter less the biomechanics, I believe that it is better to break only one pair of bones to get 6cm than doing both segments.
The more surgeries and cuts the worse the outcome imo even theoritically low amount on both segments alters less the biomechanics.

I can't explain it but I truly believe that the less surgeries the better the outcome. But don't go more than 6.5cm on tibias and 7.5 on femurs because then yes, better do both segments than lengthening one segment that much.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Moon knight on December 04, 2017, 04:34:44 PM
ah no problem thanks
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Tiger9898 on December 04, 2017, 04:39:17 PM
I know, if we pass 6 cm on tibia, there is higher possibility for ballerina syndrome.  But what do u think does it have permanent complications?
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Sweden on December 04, 2017, 11:16:41 PM
This will always give you permanent complications. You will feel stiff. It will ache as hell some day where the pin cut through your leg. You will never be as agile as you where before the surgery. Explosiveness is almost all gone.

But all that doesn’t matter to a couch potato. Hell, I don’t even think such a person even knew he had all that before the surgery.
If he’s happy being taller, why bother?

But!!! - these are the idiots that claim they recovered back to 100%.

WRONG!! Nobody gets back to 100%. Forget about it. You can manage well and do fine in sports, but your peak is always before the surgery.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: The Dreamer on December 05, 2017, 02:12:44 AM
This will always give you permanent complications. You will feel stiff. It will ache as hell some day where the pin cut through your leg. You will never be as agile as you where before the surgery. Explosiveness is almost all gone.

But all that doesn’t matter to a couch potato. Hell, I don’t even think such a person even knew he had all that before the surgery.
If he’s happy being taller, why bother?

But!!! - these are the idiots that claim they recovered back to 100%.

WRONG!! Nobody gets back to 100%. Forget about it. You can manage well and do fine in sports, but your peak is always before the surgery.
Hi Sweden,I wanted to ask you if you had ever have muscular cramps during your LL
I mean those muscular contractures,very painful,that can last minutes
And if yes,how did you handle it
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: MrHandsome on December 05, 2017, 02:21:32 AM
Can you still run on treadmill after the surgery to stay in shape.  What's  the  point of gaining height when you can't  stay lean and build muscle?
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Sweden on December 05, 2017, 02:23:56 AM
Hi Sweden,I wanted to ask you if you had ever have muscular cramps during your LL
I mean those muscular contractures,very painful,that can last minutes
And if yes,how did you handle it

No I didn’t. I felt the muscles atrophy though and that hurt a little.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Sweden on December 05, 2017, 02:27:34 AM
Can you still run on treadmill after the surgery to stay in shape.  What's  the  point of gaining height when you can't  stay lean and build muscle?

You can be a body builder after LL if you like. Sure you can run on the treadmill. In fact I really miss doing that.

You can do almost anything, just not in a competitive level.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: MrHandsome on December 05, 2017, 02:40:53 AM
You can be a body builder after LL if you like. Sure you can run on the treadmill. In fact I really miss doing that.

You can do almost anything, just not in a competitive level.

I am only doing 5cm max. I just want to make sure that I will look like a normal 5'10 guy when I am done with the surgery. I'm not trying  to compete in anything professionally, but I just want to remain in good shape.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: IwannaBeTaller on December 05, 2017, 11:19:15 AM
This will always give you permanent complications. You will feel stiff. It will ache as hell some day where the pin cut through your leg. You will never be as agile as you where before the surgery. Explosiveness is almost all gone.

But all that doesn’t matter to a couch potato. Hell, I don’t even think such a person even knew he had all that before the surgery.
If he’s happy being taller, why bother?

But!!! - these are the idiots that claim they recovered back to 100%.

WRONG!! Nobody gets back to 100%. Forget about it. You can manage well and do fine in sports, but your peak is always before the surgery.

Is that not also the case with getting older, so your peak in most sports will be at 25 years and after that it will never be 100% again? Or with many accidents and traumas, such as motorcycle accidents, car accidents, falls with complicated injuries, that can all reduce your athletic ability and never let it be 100% again?
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: MrHandsome on December 05, 2017, 01:36:49 PM
There is no point doing the surgery unless you can run
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Moon knight on December 06, 2017, 12:06:51 AM
well tbh there have been videos of people running and walking after LL without a problem but the only problem is that they never say what they lengthened
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Sweden on December 06, 2017, 01:22:42 AM
I’ve done videos of me running. I’m much better at it now too.

I’ll make a new one.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: MrHandsome on December 06, 2017, 03:25:35 AM
I’ve done videos of me running. I’m much better at it now too.

I’ll make a new one.

Can you do all regular activities like rock climbing, skiing and other stuff?
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Sweden on December 06, 2017, 04:29:01 AM
Can you do all regular activities like rock climbing, skiing and other stuff?

Yes I can. I’ve tried all of that stuff. I mostly do kickboxing now bc I’m too old for the fast kicks in Taekwondo. I still practice with my former coach now and then but my prime time has passed.

I don’t know if there is anything I can’t do. I still do jumping kicks, just not as nice as before LL. I race motorcycles in the summer, I use my inlines sometimes(making me 190 tall haha) and it’s wobbly but I can reach decent speed.

If I really wanted to I could run a marathon but I’d have to prepare myself a few weeks before.

Sure, I’ll have tons of aches and pain everywhere if I do it and I’d have to rest maybe a full week - but it’s doable.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: MrHandsome on December 06, 2017, 05:00:37 AM
Yes I can. I’ve tried all of that stuff. I mostly do kickboxing now bc I’m too old for the fast kicks in Taekwondo. I still practice with my former coach now and then but my prime time has passed.

I don’t know if there is anything I can’t do. I still do jumping kicks, just not as nice as before LL. I race motorcycles in the summer, I use my inlines sometimes(making me 190 tall haha) and it’s wobbly but I can reach decent speed.

If I really wanted to I could run a marathon but I’d have to prepare myself a few weeks before.

Sure, I’ll have tons of aches and pain everywhere if I do it and I’d have to rest maybe a full week - but it’s doable.

You did 7cm right? What if I do 4cm?
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Sweden on December 06, 2017, 02:14:49 PM
You did 7cm right? What if I do 4cm?

Then you’ll be 4cm taller.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: YungGud on December 06, 2017, 05:36:26 PM
How fast suppose to be recovery after 5 cm external tibias?
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Sweden on December 06, 2017, 10:11:54 PM
1-2 years.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: YungGud on December 06, 2017, 10:25:42 PM
1-2 years.
It'seems like after 1-2 years I can be able to run jump etc  as usual (as we can claim that level as usual)
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: myloginacct on December 06, 2017, 10:33:13 PM
Sweden, at what age do you believe doing tibias becomes too risky, because of the risks of mal union, nonunion, and such?
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Sweden on December 06, 2017, 11:11:51 PM
Around 55+ years.

There are 67 year old seniors that has done 4,5cm. They were terrified to have a small coffin at their funeral.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: myloginacct on December 07, 2017, 03:05:21 AM
Around 55+ years.

There are 67 year old seniors that has done 4,5cm. They were terrified to have a small coffin at their funeral.

Well, that's great to hear. Thank you for the reply. The risks of non-union increase with age and I'm afraid I do know how much time I really have to do LL without risking that a lot. Not worried about the aches, running or early arthritis as I see those as the price to pay to get taller. Only really worried about forms of embolism & non-union, and being able to walk normally again.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: ramaka on December 07, 2017, 02:01:54 PM
I honestly think that if done correctly and risk free I think best thing to do is go with a Dr that either cost a bit or is a specialist in the department of 'LL because remember like anything you pay for what you get I.E if you buy a more expensive pair of shoes they last longer.

You see it sounds a bit silly to compare something like that but like I said above you get what you pay for so if you want good results and get good recovery to be able to play/compete in sports at a non professional level them pay higher don't do 'LL on the cheap especially if your doing both femur and tibula.
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: 419 on December 08, 2017, 01:24:07 AM
Around 55+ years.

There are 67 year old seniors that has done 4,5cm. They were terrified to have a small coffin at their funeral.

hahahaha, man you have awesome sense of humor
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Antonio on December 11, 2017, 10:20:12 PM
I did 7,5cm on femurs two years ago and I'm running 5k and playing volleyball just fine without any pains at all
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Moon knight on December 11, 2017, 10:23:28 PM
I did 7,5cm on femurs two years ago and I'm running 5k and playing volleyball just fine without any pains at all

thats awesome to hear how long did it take to recover and do you think if i did 2 surgeries 5 cm on both tibula and femurs i could recover and play sports fine again also glad to hear your doing good after surgery
Title: Re: what is the safest amount of lengthening to be able to run/play sports again
Post by: Antonio on December 12, 2017, 12:08:16 AM
thats awesome to hear how long did it take to recover and do you think if i did 2 surgeries 5 cm on both tibula and femurs i could recover and play sports fine again also glad to hear your doing good after surgery
From the time I finished lengthening till being able to jog slowly on the beach was about 1 year. Sure if there are no serious complications like non-union or fractures you could do that, but don't worry if you are young fit and healthy and go to a good doctor you should be fine. Just give yourself time and work hard.

I have a diary where I detail mostly my post lengthening recovery