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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: TallerDream on September 18, 2018, 05:27:02 AM
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Hello again guys,
For those that accompanied my previous disturbing thread, I am back in the forum again. Evidently, I suffer from severe depression and I have height dysphoria too and I have been discussing it with my therapist. I know LL is not a joke and has to be taken seriously, after all, it can be life-changing either for the better or the worse. Although getting rid of my mental illness tops all my priorities and that getting taller would not be the solution to all my problems It sure as hell would be such a relief for myself. I have been carrying this burden of feeling short for so long and it is so debilitating mentally, it literally soaks all my energy and motivation to invest in my life pursuits. Honestly, I do not think I will ever be truly happy at this stature, I am just not happy with it. I don't feel manly at all, my legs are short as well as my arms, hands and feet. Statistically, my height falls on the average range but I see a lot more often white guys more or less my age taller than the other way around.
This is why even considering all the risks I would like to get this done, I don't care if I may put my ability to walk or whatever in jeopardy, the only thing I know is that if I could reach a better height I would feel a lot better about myself and raise my confidence to deal with life. At least 8cm on my femurs to reach 182/183, I would like to lengthen. I have tiny proportions for a grown man, I guess I was spoiled by some bad gene or something. My wingspan is 175cm on the dot but my arm length is quite short, only 70-72cm from my armpit to the extremity of my middle finger, thanks to my broad shoulders from several years lifting weights I can at least match my own height or perhaps a bit more, I am like 172,5 in the evening, 174 in the morning or 174,5. my legs are quite short, I am only 99cm from the ground to my bellybutton so fortunately I was blessed with a relatively long torso. My hands are small too, I have small fingers and nails and it is embarrassing as fk, my hand length is 7 inches only lol. My feet although small not abruptly so, a modest size 42 European.
I am worried my proportions cannot handle my desired height increment and I will look like a t-rex or something I would really appreciate some advice. I had a talk with my mom about it once and she thought this is crazy and unheard of, which is.. it isn't mainstream yet and probably never will. Nevertheless, I confessed to her that it's been a long time I've been suffering from this and then she told me the usual lose weight, proper grooming blablabla bull to give the illusion I am taller than I really am. I asked her what she thought about me doing it and she replied nothing more nothing less than that i'm immature to even consider something like this. I gave the silly me laugh but my heart ached inside. Well, at the end of the day I am not expecting my parents to support me with this that's why I would never include them on my plans let alone asking for money to do this. I just want to know how all of you deal with your parents and siblings because it can be a struggle.
I am 22 and only recently I have started working and have barely saved any money yet. I want to do STRYDE on my femurs with Paley (I mean who the hell doesn't) but it's too expensive it would take me to many years to save that kind of money. Is there any cheaper viable alternative?
Of course I am not expecting to do internal femurs with 20k but 100k seems too much for one segment alone, something in between those two figures would be more doable.
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You have a few options in Europe in between those 2 figures. Internal obviously. You are around my height pre-LL and I can totally relate to what you've written.
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You are still young and have a normal height. If i was you i would see LL as a long term investment, start saving money now and meanwhile try to live life normally considering you were blessed with normal height. In a few years when you have the money you will still be young and LL might even be more safe.
I just finished my LL, im over 25 and my new height is 170. It feels great!
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you can get external tibias done which will be much cheaper. about 10-20k in india with a good surgeon. p.s longer tibias look sexier.
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I would recommend you to save a little more (in the figures you mentioned) and do the procedure in 1-2 years in Europe or anywhere else with Stryde (fémurs)
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You have a few options in Europe in between those 2 figures. Internal obviously. You are around my height pre-LL and I can totally relate to what you've written.
What options would that be? And for how much roughly?
I thought about operating on my tibias first... longer tibias look more attractive to the eye and with externals it is much cheaper. I want to be taller now or within the next few years.. not in a decade when my early adulthood would be soon to cease.
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you can get external tibias done which will be much cheaper. about 10-20k in india with a good surgeon. p.s longer tibias look sxxier.
You are right... however going so far away and be bed ridden for months at some dirty hospital in India doesn’t sound like a good idea...
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Measure your own wingspan.Considering that this operation was invented by a Russian doctor. Russia has good external experience. And they are cheaper. Find a reliable Russian doctor.Do not try more than 6cm in the tibia.Don't go to Vietnam and India.
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go to china which is better than india and russia. bed ridden u will be no matter wat. if u can pay huge money then to paley and do internals (he doenst do externals i guess, less money in it for him)
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Measure your own wingspan.Considering that this operation was invented by a Russian doctor. Russia has good external experience. And they are cheaper. Find a reliable Russian doctor.Do not try more than 6cm in the tibia.Don't go to Vietnam and India.
I already mentioned on my original post that my wingspan is 175cm.
It’s concerning because if I lengthen I’ll go above it and damage my proportions a bit.
But honestly my shoulders are really broad they’re 62cm in length, that is a lot.
At my current height I look like a small tank but if I get taller my broad shoulders will look really manly and aesthetic.
I have used lifts before that although uncomfortable brought me to 183cm and I liked very much the way I looked.
It’s just mind blowing how a few centimetres can make you look completely different.
My arms are short as well as my hands and I am worried but I’ll take my chances anyhow because I wanna be taller, period.
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I already mentioned on my original post that my wingspan is 175cm.
It’s concerning because if I lengthen I’ll go above it and damage my proportions a bit.
But honestly my shoulders are really broad they’re 62cm in length, that is a lot.
At my current height I look like a small tank but if I get taller my broad shoulders will look really manly and aesthetic.
I have used lifts before that although uncomfortable brought me to 183cm and I liked very much the way I looked.
It’s just mind blowing how a few centimetres can make you look completely different.
My arms are short as well as my hands and I am worried but I’ll take my chances anyhow because I wanna be taller, period.
There is no way your shoulders are 62cm from one end to another.
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There is no way your shoulders are 62cm from one end to another.
Sorry I meant 52 not 62, my bad. Nevertheless, quite broad
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you should just post a pic of you with underwear in the proportion section
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ok, I'll try to do that.
In the meantime, I'll leave here my measurements.
Wingspan - 175cm
Inseam - 77cm
Sitting height - 98cm
Shoulder width - 27cm from one end to my inner chest x 2 = 54cm
Arm length - 68cm
Forearm length - 27cm (elbow to wrist)
Tibia length - 50cm
Femur length - 27cm
my tibias and femurs are tiny.. when I sit on a table with other people I am actually the same height as other much taller guys in the 6'-6'5 range hence why I think I can be a great candidate for this surgery. What concerns me is my arms, they're kinda short making my wingspan short despite my shoulder width so idk if I could handle 3-5 inch lengthening.
Femurs with Paley with the STRYDE nail is definitely the best out there nowadays but to save that kind of money is gonna take several years.
I'm trying to get in the investment banking scene here in London and right now I might even invest another 20-40k in a masters degree to lift up my chances... Let's say I achieved so, I reckon in a couple of years or 3 years I could save 100k pounds and with STRYDE the scarring is minimal and I can resume my life a lot sooner.
On the other hand, doing tibias with externals in Russia for 20k seems quite tempting but being bedridden for several months, can you imagine how hard it can be to put your whole life on hold for that long and the toll it can take mentally? Beyond that, thrashing my legs with lots of scars sounds like a big downside but maybe it is my best chance right now because I don't think I can afford internals on both segments and externals is seemingly the best method to lengthen the tibias
My ultimate goal is to lengthen both segments, 8cm on my femurs and 5-6cm on my tibias reaching 188/189. I could be 190 wearing shoes...
In the hypothesis I lengthened 14cm my inseam would raise to 91cm.. still less than my sitting height so I wouldn't look lanky would I?
Just a thought... I'm open to criticism
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internal on tibia is not wise. smaller bones and digging into them can lead life long problems. externals is the best method imo for tibias and internal for femurs.
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tallerdream
Are you sure your measurement is correct?
Length of the tibia - 50cm
Length of the femur - 27cm
I have 42cm of tibia its is gigantic and the average length of femur is 40 to 50cm your te 27 cm ?? something is wrong
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tallerdream
Are you sure your measurement is correct?
Length of the tibia - 50cm
Length of the femur - 27cm
I have 42cm of tibia its is gigantic and the average length of femur is 40 to 50cm your te 27 cm ?? something is wrong
I measured my tibia from the ground to the top of my knee and my femur from there to the end of my inner quad touching my genitals. I’ll try to measure again, but I’m pretty sure my Inseam measurement is accurate
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I measured my tibia from the ground to the top of my knee and my femur from there to the end of my inner quad touching my genitals. I’ll try to measure again, but I’m pretty sure my Inseam measurement is accurate
You measure it absolutely in a wrong way. You should not measure your tibia from the ground. Search some tutorial video on youtube ,but bear in mind that your own measurement will not be accurate as well. You should get your x-ray done
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I am like 172,5 in the evening, 174 in the morning or 174,5
Dude. Count your blessings. I became 172 after quadrilateral lengthening. You're of average height. Unless you choose to live in Denmark, people won't regard you as short. Use that money to optimize other parts of your life first.
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Dude. Count your blessings. I became 172 after quadrilateral lengthening. You're of average height. Unless you choose to live in Denmark, people won't regard you as short. Use that money to optimize other parts of your life first.
172 is slightly below average. average in very few countries. he has the right if he chooses.
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He can do w/e he wants its his body, but that doesn't change the the fact that 175cm is barely below average and it matches with his wingspan. In shoes hes pretty much 5'10, I can't blame him for wanting to reach 6'+ tho. OP, if you don't have a problem with having a negative ape index go for it.
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He can do w/e he wants its his body, but that doesn't change the the fact that 175cm is barely below average and it matches with his wingspan. In shoes hes pretty much 5'10, I can't blame him for wanting to reach 6'+ tho. OP, if you don't have a problem with having a negative ape index go for it.
" Height - 171cm/5'7.3
Wingspan - 183cm+/6'-6'1
Goal - Height - 183-185cm/ 6'-6'1
Arms - 190cm/ 6'3 "
I hope ur not planning that in 1 surgery. altho totally possible but going beyond 7cm is not sane.
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Ofc not, I'll do both segments. I'd like to be able to continue lifting after this. Most likely it'll be 12-14cm* split between tibias and femurs.
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guys I get it, 5'9 is not that bad but it's a height I don't really sustain for long so I'd say I'm more like 5'8 during the day, 5'9 wearing shoes..
I am not happy with my height, I feel like a midget here in London..I compare my height with thousands of ppl everyday and I am rarely as tall as a white man, they're all taller like 90%.. I am as tall as many asians though. I had to endure 3yrs at university living in halls with 6'0+ brahs and I was among the shortest. I noticed these guys had no style whatsoever, bad looking faces but were pussy magnetizers solely because of their height and a bit of social skill/charisma. Throughout my Youth and now my early adulthood, I feel I have several qualities girls like and feel attracted to such as my facial structure, my hair, my eyes, my intelligence, my sense of humour, my honesty, my future prospects... but I just feel this layer of unease and girls give me the eye something's wrong and I'm pretty sure it's my height, because it's the only thing I don't have as a plus. The sxxual prejudice is real.. and so is in other aspects of life.So the point is, do I have to live an entire life of discontent revolving my stature? I don't think so... will my proportions be negatively affected? Most definitely. Put I can cope with that.. with this hindrance not letting me live my life to the fullest and not letting me feel good about myself, I can't. I just can't.. I am not even trying to justify undergoing this surgery because at the end of the day we'll do whatever the fk our minds tell us to. Gathering the money to do this and being bedridden for months won't be a walk in the park... but I can handle it.. I just wish I could taller today, not tomorrow
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I know that feel, but its all in your head the average in the UK is not 6'0, it's 5'9 so for the most part I doubt many people think you're short. You're 174.5cm, right? that's 68.7 inches you can easily get away with saying you're 5'9, if you really wanna be 6'0 don't let us stop you, its not like you're attempting 8+ inches, go for it and don't let it get to you.
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I know that feel, but its all in your head the average in the UK is not 6'0, it's 5'9 so for the most part I doubt many people think you're short. You're 174.5cm, right? that's 68.7 inches you can easily get away with saying you're 5'9, if you really wanna be 6'0 don't let us stop you, its not like you're attempting 8+ inches, go for it and don't let it get to you.
would 5'11 barefoot in england considered in the tall realm or above average realm
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It'd be tall if you were in Japan, but it is above average, I used this site.
https://tall.life/height-percentile-calculator-age-country/ (https://tall.life/height-percentile-calculator-age-country/)
The break down is..
UK - 5'9 = 50% Average
5'11 = 75.3% Above Average
6'0 = 84.8% Kinda Tall
US -5'9.3 = 50% Average
5'11 = 71.9% above average
6'0 = 82.1% kinda tall
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It'd be tall if you were in Japan, but it is above average, I used this site.
https://tall.life/height-percentile-calculator-age-country/ (https://tall.life/height-percentile-calculator-age-country/)
The break down is..
UK - 5'9 = 50% Average
5'11 = 75.3% Above Average
6'0 = 84.8% Kinda Tall
US -5'9.3 = 50% Average
5'11 = 71.9% above average
6'0 = 82.1% kinda tall
ThatGuy, average height in the UK is not 5’9, it’s 5’10.. the British are a bit taller than Americans.
Second, it’s just statistics, 5’10 is the average height in the UK accounting for all generations.
I am 100% convinced it is the older generations bringing the average down. If you take a sample of only younger people, let’s say born in the 80s and 90s the average is more like 6’0.
I observe a lot people here in London and white males are very tall, 6’0 and beyond. Occasionally you might see a short guy but not often. The same should apply to the US, even though I haven’t been there yet I’ve seen on the internet rumours that young Americans are pretty tall too.
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The same should apply to the US, even though I haven’t been there yet I’ve seen on the internet rumours that young Americans are pretty tall too.
Average in the US is definitely around 5’8”. Ive been walking around for 2 weeks now going to parks and the mall and shopping centers and dont see many young/older guys taller than me. Im at 5’8.5” now after finishing my cross-lengthening.
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ThatGuy, average height in the UK is not 5’9, it’s 5’10.. the British are a bit taller than Americans.
Second, it’s just statistics, 5’10 is the average height in the UK accounting for all generations.
I am 100% convinced it is the older generations bringing the average down. If you take a sample of only younger people, let’s say born in the 80s and 90s the average is more like 6’0.
I observe a lot people here in London and white males are very tall, 6’0 and beyond. Occasionally you might see a short guy but not often. The same should apply to the US, even though I haven’t been there yet I’ve seen on the internet rumours that young Americans are pretty tall too.
It's just statistics? Damn, I don't know what to say. I'll just walk away on this one.
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Average in the US is definitely around 5’8”. Ive been walking around for 2 weeks now going to parks and the mall and shopping centers and dont see many young/older guys taller than me. Im at 5’8.5” now after finishing my cross-lengthening.
Going by your method someone who sees mostly 6'0 people could deduce the average is about 6'0. Anyone who understands and values statistics knows you can't extrapolate your own experiences to reach conclusion like this. You can't just eyeball a few 100 or even 1000 people then just say "Yup the average height in the entire nation is about 5'8".
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ThatGuy, average height in the UK is not 5’9, it’s 5’10.. the British are a bit taller than Americans.
Second, it’s just statistics, 5’10 is the average height in the UK accounting for all generations.
I am 100% convinced it is the older generations bringing the average down. If you take a sample of only younger people, let’s say born in the 80s and 90s the average is more like 6’0.
I observe a lot people here in London and white males are very tall, 6’0 and beyond. Occasionally you might see a short guy but not often. The same should apply to the US, even though I haven’t been there yet I’ve seen on the internet rumours that young Americans are pretty tall too.
6'0 is so high an average even for an isolated bunch. Even the dutch average is about 181.x which is 5'11. and they r the single country of giants on planet earth.
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6'0 is so high an average even for an isolated bunch. Even the dutch average is about 181.x which is 5'11. and they r the single country of giants on planet earth.
Exactly, people don't value stats they'd just look at a group of people and then extrapolate that to the entire region/nation, its bizarre.
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Going by your method someone who sees mostly 6'0 people could deduce the average is about 6'0. Anyone who understands and values statistics knows you can't extrapolate your own experiences to reach conclusion like this. You can't just eyeball a few 100 or even 1000 people then just say "Yup the average height in the entire nation is about 5'8".
the problem is that many statistical averages and accepted avg heightare based on studies of small samples, and what is worse, most are self-reports
I personally only rely on data from measurements of significant samples and with measurements made by third parties, these are usually from military studies
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the problem is that many statistical averages and accepted avg heightare based on studies of small samples, and what is worse, most are self-reports
I personally only rely on data from measurements of significant samples and with measurements made by third parties, these are usually from military studies
Got a link with more accurate numbers? It seemed like he was completely disregarding stats in general, but I can see where you're coming from.
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the problem is that many statistical averages and accepted avg heightare based on studies of small samples, and what is worse, most are self-reports
I personally only rely on data from measurements of significant samples and with measurements made by third parties, these are usually from military studies
i would like to see military stats. link it to me
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lol at the above, yes, statistics are just statistics. They are accurate (or should be accurate) but, as I mentioned already, they include a very broad sample that represents the entire population, including children and older generations.
For instance, the internet claims the average height for a grown male, in the UK, to be 5'10. This is probably true, however, based on what I have been noticing for quite some time is that younger males are taller than that. My estimation, based on what I've seen and confront every single day is that average height for young white males is more like 6'0. If the statistics represented young males, solely, then most guys I see every day would be very close to my eye level which is not the case.
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guys I get it, 5'9 is not that bad but it's a height I don't really sustain for long so I'd say I'm more like 5'8 during the day, 5'9 wearing shoes..
I am not happy with my height, I feel like a midget here in London..I compare my height with thousands of ppl everyday and I am rarely as tall as a white man, they're all taller like 90%.. I am as tall as many asians though. I had to endure 3yrs at university living in halls with 6'0+ brahs and I was among the shortest. I noticed these guys had no style whatsoever, bad looking faces but were pussy magnetizers solely because of their height and a bit of social skill/charisma. Throughout my Youth and now my early adulthood, I feel I have several qualities girls like and feel attracted to such as my facial structure, my hair, my eyes, my intelligence, my sense of humour, my honesty, my future prospects... but I just feel this layer of unease and girls give me the eye something's wrong and I'm pretty sure it's my height, because it's the only thing I don't have as a plus. The sxxual prejudice is real.. and so is in other aspects of life.So the point is, do I have to live an entire life of discontent revolving my stature? I don't think so... will my proportions be negatively affected? Most definitely. Put I can cope with that.. with this hindrance not letting me live my life to the fullest and not letting me feel good about myself, I can't. I just can't.. I am not even trying to justify undergoing this surgery because at the end of the day we'll do whatever the fk our minds tell us to. Gathering the money to do this and being bedridden for months won't be a walk in the park... but I can handle it.. I just wish I could taller today, not tomorrow
i agree and yea bro sadly that layer of unease is nothing else but ur not so good height. atleast ur smart enough to realise tht but ive seen ppl so stupid who think maybe it was somthing they said rofl xd. bitches nowdays have become so unrealistic and their height demands have gone up like crazy. they wont just settle. i've seen it in my own life experience. and more so even celebrities like leonardo decaprio get dumped because their ex thaught their ideal partner would be taller. blame feminism and materialism. gotta stay reddpilled to see the facts in this materialism apocalypse.
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lol at the above, yes, statistics are just statistics. They are accurate (or should be accurate) but, as I mentioned already, they include a very broad sample that represents the entire population, including children and older generations.
For instance, the internet claims the average height for a grown male, in the UK, to be 5'10. This is probably true, however, based on what I have been noticing for quite some time is that younger males are taller than that. My estimation, based on what I've seen and confront every single day is that average height for young white males is more like 6'0. If the statistics represented young males, solely, then most guys I see every day would be very close to my eye level which is not the case.
No, they don't include children when they give averages for adult height. The site I gave you actually shows the averages between different age groups as well its very comprehensive.
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i agree and yea bro sadly that layer of unease is nothing else but ur not so good height. atleast ur smart enough to realise tht but ive seen ppl so stupid who think maybe it was somthing they said rofl xd. bitches nowdays have become so unrealistic and their height demands have gone up like crazy. they wont just settle. i've seen it in my own life experience. and more so even celebrities like leonardo decaprio get dumped because their ex thaught their ideal partner would be taller. blame feminism and materialism. gotta stay reddpilled to see the facts in this materialism apocalypse.
oh man I wish I was 6'2.. 3 inches on my femurs and 2 on my tibias.. I dream about this every single day, height is the only thing I do not have in life. How the hell am I gonna pull 5 inches off, sounds like a fairytale especially knowing that life is tough and things hardly ever turn out as we devise.
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The posts in this thread are cancer.
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The posts in this thread are cancer.
it says you are moderator, why arent these people banned? also there are freaks in other thread who writes "brah", "manlet", "masterrace" "chad". these are obviously out there to upset other people to feel better about their sad life. why havent you banned them?
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it says you are moderator, why arent these people banned? also there are freaks in other thread who writes "brah", "manlet", "masterrace" "chad". these are obviously out there to upset other people to feel better about their sad life. why havent you banned them?
So you’re saying I deserve to be banned? Like everyone else in here all I want is to get taller otherwise I would never resort to something like this.
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@TallerDream You have a surplus amount of sitting height, if there weren't any soft tissue adapting issues then you could've no doubt lengthen to 6'2"+. Average height for a young 18yr old UK British male might be 5'10.5" or more but considering that average people don't go to university, it follows that you would presumably see 6'+ males over there, tbh it's quite discouraging because I thought about moving abroad for a graduate degree but since I keep getting height mogged here when the average is 5'7" then I would undoubtedly get mogged all the time at 5'5" in any European state, the crux of being a man is a tribulation of in itself.
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@TallerDream You have a surplus amount of sitting height, if there weren't any soft tissue adapting issues then you could've no doubt lengthen to 6'2"+. Average height for a young 18yr old UK British male might be 5'10.5" or more but considering that average people don't go to university, it follows that you would presumably see 6'+ males over there, tbh it's quite discouraging because I thought about moving abroad for a graduate degree but since I keep getting height mogged here when the average is 5'7" then I would undoubtedly get mogged all the time at 5'5" in any European state, the crux of being a man is a tribulation of in itself.
so are you saying reaching 6'2 is unattainable because of the soft tissue adaptation? Someone please enlighten me because I always thought femurs and tibias can handle 3 and 2 inches, respectively.
I start realising my dream height is out of reach and I hate having my bubble burst..
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so are you saying reaching 6'2 is unattainable because of the soft tissue adaptation? Someone please enlighten me because I always thought femurs and tibias can handle 3 and 2 inches, respectively.
I start realising my dream height is out of reach and I hate having my bubble burst..
Lengthen beyond 2 inches regardless of femur or tibia and say good bye to that natural gait and synchronous biomechanics, sure you could reinforce the mind to 'adapt' to this contrived reaction and after some years reach a new baseline but the point still stands. Read enough diaries and understand basic human anatomy and your bubbles will keep you protected.
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Lengthen beyond 2 inches regardless of femur or tibia and say good bye to that natural gait and synchronous biomechanics, sure you could reinforce the mind to 'adapt' to this contrived reaction and after some years reach a new baseline but the point still stands. Read enough diaries and understand basic human anatomy and your bubbles will keep you protected.
Can you then explain to me why reputable doctors like Paley and Rozbruch confidently claim they can lengthen 8cm on femurs and 5-6cm on tibias safely?
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Can you then explain to me why reputable doctors like Paley and Rozbruch confidently claim they can lengthen 8cm on femurs and 5-6cm on tibias safely?
Because most people are stupid, back in the makemetaller forum days people used to lengthen 7 inches or more absurd amounts, only now has the doctors and patients started becoming conservatives but despite that people still want the bang for their buck. So essentially doctors have a devil may care business acumen and people are stupid, really that's it.
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so today I took some time to watch videos on youtube and images on google and I took my measurements once again and i'm pretty sure they are accurate now.
Wingspan - 175cm
Inseam - 80cm
Sitting height - 94cm
Shoulder width - 50cm
Arm length - 68cm
Forearm length - 27cm (elbow to wrist)
Tibia length - 33cm
Femur length - 40cm
I am 174cm in the morning, 172cm in the evening. My dream is 8cm on my femurs with STRYDE with either Paley or Rozbruch and 5 or 6cm on my tibias with externals in Russia.
I want to know what you guys think about this
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Can you then explain to me why reputable doctors like Paley and Rozbruch confidently claim they can lengthen 8cm on femurs and 5-6cm on tibias safely?
well 8 is not safe, very high limit of safe at the most. 6-7 would stil alter the musculature more than enough to cause bio-mechanical dyssynchronous functioning. also depends on how flexible the musculature is depending on genetics.
paley and say tht because its somewhat true. u dont get any major complications so as to hinder ur everyday life but cutting the nature's intended legs and artficially elongating them and not having any single issue is naive thinking. should nature>paley override sooner or later.
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well 8 is not safe, very high limit of safe at the most. 6-7 would stil alter the musculature more than enough to cause bio-mechanical dyssynchronous functioning. also depends on how flexible the musculature is depending on genetics.
paley and say tht because its somewhat true. u dont get any major complications so as to hinder ur everyday life but cutting the nature's intended legs and artficially elongating them and not having any single issue is naive thinking. should nature>paley override sooner or later.
The way I see it I'm evening things out, I can barely carry bags without them dragging on the floor. I plan to stay within the 6-7cm range. If I keep my femur and tibia ratio the same do you think that'll make it easier to adjust?
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The way I see it I'm evening things out, I can barely carry bags without them dragging on the floor. I plan to stay within the 6-7cm range. If I keep my femur and tibia ratio the same do you think that'll make it easier to adjust?
i wish people had more knowledge on human anatomy. we are taught so much about the viscera but so less about muscular system pity.
to answer ur question if u plan to do on both then go as minimum as possible. when ur doing both ur double hammering the knee joint and single hammering lumbar spine which will also affect thoracic spine. u dont want to get spinal issues in ur 40's. I cant say any number such as x amount will be safe dpeends on so many factors specific to u but as a general rule stay below 8 for a must and below 7 for good.
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I measured my tibia from the ground to the top of my knee and my femur from there to the end of my inner quad touching my genitals. I’ll try to measure again, but I’m pretty sure my Inseam measurement is accurate
you are measuring the wrong way hahha you can not measure the femur in the inner thigh because it enters and is housed in the hip 25% -30% of the femur is above the genital. and neither measure the tibia from the floor to the knee your feet are not part of the tibia.
I will help you
look at the image.
to measure the femur press the outer side of your thigh in the upper part of it, near the end of the hip, you will feel the end of the femur indicated with the red arrow above it in the image, use something rigid or the help of someone to ask the other end you will feel again using your fingers precionando on the lateral side of the knee you will feel the union of the ligaments of the knee and fibula, this measurement is still imprecise but it is very close to reality if you do correctly,
to measure Tibia you can start in the salience of the ankle in the inner part that ball in the ankle, it must be done in the inner part of the leg due to the fact that the external side is the Fibula,
then you will find the end in the same way as the femur, preloading the fingers on the inner side of the knee to find the separation of the femur and tibia, an important detail: this separation is very subtle and difficult to identify,
you can keep your fingers tightening the place and bend your knee back and forth to feel the difference of femur and tibia during the movement. follow the image
https://imgur.com/a/JKvG8YW
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you are measuring the wrong way hahha you can not measure the femur in the inner thigh because it enters and is housed in the hip 25% -30% of the femur is above the genital. and neither measure the tibia from the floor to the knee your feet are not part of the tibia.
I will help you
look at the image.
to measure the femur press the outer side of your thigh in the upper part of it, near the end of the hip, you will feel the end of the femur indicated with the red arrow above it in the image, use something rigid or the help of someone to ask the other end you will feel again using your fingers precionando on the lateral side of the knee you will feel the union of the ligaments of the knee and fibula, this measurement is still imprecise but it is very close to reality if you do correctly,
to measure Tibia you can start in the salience of the ankle in the inner part that ball in the ankle, it must be done in the inner part of the leg due to the fact that the external side is the Fibula,
then you will find the end in the same way as the femur, preloading the fingers on the inner side of the knee to find the separation of the femur and tibia, an important detail: this separation is very subtle and difficult to identify,
you can keep your fingers tightening the place and bend your knee back and forth to feel the difference of femur and tibia during the movement. follow the image
https://imgur.com/a/JKvG8YW
Bro idk if you’ve noticed but yesterday I posted my updated measurements so I don’t understand why you’re dwelling on something I wrote like a week ago.
I measured my femur through the outer thigh from the knee all the way to the hip.
I followed images and videos same for tibia. If that ain’t accurate idk what the hell is apart from x rays
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Bro idk if you’ve noticed but yesterday I posted my updated measurements so I don’t understand why you’re dwelling on something I wrote like a week ago.
I measured my femur through the outer thigh from the knee all the way to the hip.
I followed images and videos same for tibia. If that ain’t accurate idk what the hell is apart from x rays
Sorry friend
I answered the email link so I was late so I did not see your updates.
and "x-ray" is a common name for radiography in my language, sometimes I forget it during translation
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so what do you guys think about my proportions and desired height?
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so what do you guys think about my proportions and desired height?
I think it will look good on you the proportion of a normal long legs,
since it will do in the 2 segments, perhaps it is better to do first tibia,
because if it is to do femur you will be 48cm and 33cm is a very high value femur, would get with tibia 68.7% of the total size of the femur, and if you do first tibia will stay 38cm and femur 40cm I think a safer relationship, then femur it becomes easier to stretch.
unless you are going to do the surgeries simultaneously.
but remember it might be safer to have a goal lower than 6 + 4 you would still be 1.84m
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I think it will look good on you the proportion of a normal long legs,
since it will do in the 2 segments, perhaps it is better to do first tibia,
because if it is to do femur you will be 48cm and 33cm is a very high value femur, would get with tibia 68.7% of the total size of the femur, and if you do first tibia will stay 38cm and femur 40cm I think a safer relationship, then femur it becomes easier to stretch.
unless you are going to do the surgeries simultaneously.
but remember it might be safer to have a goal lower than 6 + 4 you would still be 1.84m
Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it.
Indeed, to reach 188 I would need 14cm. I devised 8cm femur + 6cm tibia but perhaps 8cm is too much therefore I would do 7cm instead and be 187 which is pretty great too. I would be 189 or so with shoes on 190 with boots maybe.
My plan is save money and get 6cm on my tibias first with externals in Russia probably. I could be 180cm which is good and can cope with in the meantime. Afterwards I would save as much as possible and get the 3 inches or so on my femurs.
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Thanks for the feedback, really appreciate it.
Indeed, to reach 188 I would need 14cm. I devised 8cm femur + 6cm tibia but perhaps 8cm is too much therefore I would do 7cm instead and be 187 which is pretty great too. I would be 189 or so with shoes on 190 with boots maybe.
My plan is save money and get 6cm on my tibias first with externals in Russia probably. I could be 180cm which is good and can cope with in the meantime. Afterwards I would save as much as possible and get the 3 inches or so on my femurs.
rgkey got bowed leg due to russians careless early removal of frames. not saying russia is bad or anything but there are other options too like china , india and others.