Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: Medium Drink Of Water on February 19, 2014, 05:05:57 AM
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From what I saw, the heavily built people went through a lot more pain and couldn't lengthen as much. One of the benefits of having skinny legs is that with Ilizarov frames you can have smaller rings and fewer pins. All I know about is tibia LON though.
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Being underweight and having skinny limbs won't have any positive or negative effects on your CLL, although it might affect your proportions post-LL. LL will make your limbs longer, and having lost muscle, your legs will look even skinnier.
If you plan on going femurs first, stretch your quads and hamstrings every single day. Work on your hip flexion. These will be the obstacles of femur lengthening. For tibiae, you need to stretch your achilles tendons.
I'm still unsure about the importance of leg muscle mass before LL. Guichet thinks it's very important, other doctors not as much. Is having too much muscle mass problematic for a remote controlled device like Precice or Fitbone - wish I could give an answer. I'm sure flexibility is more important than muscle mass.
Your x-rays will determine which method will be better for you individually, and will determine the diameter of the nail that's going to be used.
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Being skinny is actually a good thing. I'm referring to external tibas here.
Bulky guys tend to have a harder time lengthening because their muscle can resist lengthening. You can tell by the pin bending on external tibae. I feel that sometime I'm about to break the pin. That's how strong my muscles were. I have to have lengthen 1.5mm per day just to get an equivalent of 1mm per day because my muscles were constantly compressing against my gain. It's really sad. No one told me this. But after 4 months I got just 3cm, which I should have gotten 8cm. That's another reason why I hate Crazy 6 because he told me to take it "slowly" and be safe. So slow that my bone ended up consolidating prematurely. That's why I wouldn't listen to anyone next time. Everyone's situation is different. You should access your own requirement based on your own situation by looking at your x-ray.
Flexibility is a must. Having strong flexibility prevents you from having ballerina if you do tibae and duck ass if you do femur. That's why the physio stretches the patient on a daily basis at the guesthouse. If you can perform a complete split as well as touching your chest against your thighs with your legs straight, then your ballerina problem is resolved.
I know of one chinese girl who was very skinny and was sort of like a gymnast. She breezed through 10cm with her 5'0 frame. She ended up looking disproportionate and her bones were hallowed but she did achieved her goal.
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You are all absolutely correct. Flexibility is way more important than muscle mass. In fact, if you are light enough, you can take more weight on your precice earlier.
Hip and knee extension and ankle dorsiflexion are important stretches before surgery. Dont bulk up too much beforehand, but reasonable fitness with good flexibility is the way to go. Consider pilates beforehand.
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I know of one chinese girl who was very skinny and was sort of like a gymnast. She breezed through 10cm with her 5'0 frame. She ended up looking disproportionate and her bones were hallowed but she did achieved her goal.
Hi smallguy, what do you mean that chinese girl's bones were 'hollowed' out? Don't the bones adjust to their previous strength again? Especially if you take in a generous amount of calcium?
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Hi smallguy, what do you mean that chinese girl's bones were 'hollowed' out? Don't the bones adjust to their previous strength again? Especially if you take in a generous amount of calcium?
Everyone's rate of bone regeneration is different. In her case, I was told that she was very thin, almost like anorexic, like a typical China women. And she eats very little and I doubt she's even keen enough to take calcium tablets. In fact, I just know of 1 other patient at the guesthouse who like me were taking calcium tablets. Everyone, like Crazy 6 was drinking cow's milk and I didn't think that helped him much (I'm a vegan advocate)
Her bone was hallowed during the lengthening. But she went home, recovered for a long period of time, and I told she was fine... just that her bone consolidation process was much slower.. due to her body and the amount she lengthen.. 10cm.
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Shouldn't we avoid cow milk like all diary products as much as possible to avoid osteophorosis and calcium loss from our bones? Or I'm telling nonsense? I know the forum isn't about food but this is somehow connected with LL. :)
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Shouldn't we avoid cow milk like all diary products as much as possible to avoid osteophorosis and calcium loss from our bones? Or I'm telling nonsense? I know the forum isn't about food but this is somehow connected with LL. :)
Does milk/diary products make our bones lose calcium? thats weird if true because i thought we drank milk etc because it is a source of calcium.
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Does milk/diary products make our bones lose calcium? thats weird if true because i thought we drank milk etc because it is a source of calcium.
It depends on who you ask. If you ask a meateater, he will tell you to get your calcium from drinking milk. But if you ask a semi-vegan, I would say milk is very acidic because it is an animal protein. And when you consume too much acid food, your body has to balance out the acidity by withdrawing alkaline from your bone. That's why they say you will lose more calcium than you gain from drinking milk. Also consuming too much acidic food will prevent you from sleeping well which in turn will prevent your body's ability to recover. Actually, I'm not a nutritionist expert. This is a widely popular concept. Maybe someone else can elaborate on this.
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It depends on who you ask. If you ask a meateater, he will tell you to get your calcium from drinking milk. But if you ask a semi-vegan, I would say milk is very acidic because it is an animal protein. And when you consume too much acid food, your body has to balance out the acidity by withdrawing alkaline from your bone. That's why they say you will lose more calcium than you gain from drinking milk. Also consuming too much acidic food will prevent you from sleeping well which in turn will prevent your body's ability to recover. Actually, I'm not a nutritionist expert. This is a widely popular concept. Maybe someone else can elaborate on this.
hmm interesting, now that you mention it i think i have heard about this concept before. But if it is the animal protein in milk which is acidic then that would mean that i would have to stop eating meat as well if i didnt want to lose calcium at all :-\. I guess you can skip the milk and keep eating meat and balance it out by eating calcium supplements.
Do you think glucosamine sulphate is a good supplement for recovering after LL? its supposed to help with cartilage and bones in general i believe.