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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Height & Proportions => Topic started by: noname on March 22, 2016, 07:29:13 PM

Title: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 22, 2016, 07:29:13 PM
A lot of people over here are afraid to lengthen too much so they won't look like a cartoon. I live in Holland and I'm 5'8. There's a 6'6 who got the same sitting height as me and he still looks normal. He looks long legged but not weird. His sitting height is even the same as a 5'5 girl I know. Long legs are being known as attractive so don't worry. Almost all tall men in Holland look like apotheosis and they're still looking normal. You guys just think too much about proportions while "normal people" never notice things like that. This all means that a lot of 5'8/9 guys can lengthen up to heights like 6'3/6'4 and still nobody will think you look weird. I didn't look at arm sizes but this can be lengthened. Don't worry about proportions
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: dvan0 on March 22, 2016, 07:37:11 PM
Noname, what is your sitting height and inseam?
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 22, 2016, 08:03:50 PM
Noname, what is your sitting height and inseam?

Sitting height is 95, I got very short legs..
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Alittletooshort on March 22, 2016, 09:02:35 PM
It´s your arms and shoulders that look weird, and it´s absolutely wrong that you can lengthen up to 7 or 8 inches and still be proportionate. Perhaps I care a little too much about proprtions but saying that they do not matterat all is just wrong.
The 6´6 guy probably didn´t sit straight, but even if your sitting height was the same you´d still look horrible if you lengthened yourself to his height. There was a picture of a guy who went from 168 to 178 next to a guy who was 178 naturally and the guy who did the lengthening looked like a dwarf on stilts.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: dvan0 on March 22, 2016, 09:10:58 PM
I think it also depends on your ethnicity. If you look at tall Africans they tend to have really long legs. So whether long legs is acceptable also depends on what type of people you hang out with.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 22, 2016, 09:31:09 PM
It´s your arms and shoulders that look weird, and it´s absolutely wrong that you can lengthen up to 7 or 8 inches and still be proportionate. Perhaps I care a little too much about proprtions but saying that they do not matterat all is just wrong.
The 6´6 guy probably didn´t sit straight, but even if your sitting height was the same you´d still look horrible if you lengthened yourself to his height. There was a picture of a guy who went from 168 to 178 next to a guy who was 178 naturally and the guy who did the lengthening looked like a dwarf on stilts.

How can i look horrible if my sitting height is the same. Maybe my arms would look short but that's no prob since you can lengthen them. Look at NBA players and very tall people they all have short sitting heights. And you can't compare me to other people since every person is unique. Maybe that 168 guy already had long legs. Most people are only tall Cuz of their long legs. I know a tall girl (5'10) and a short girl (5'3) and their sitting heights are the same. So how would the short girl look horrible if she does 7 inches? She would just get the same proportions as the tall girl which looks normal. You're just worrying too much about proportions. Every tall dutch man looks like apotheosis and his proportions are more than normal over here
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TIBIKE200 on March 22, 2016, 09:45:53 PM
How can i look horrible if my sitting height is the same. Maybe my arms would look short but that's no prob since you can lengthen them. Look at NBA players and very tall people they all have short sitting heights. And you can't compare me to other people since every person is unique. Maybe that 168 guy already had long legs. Most people are only tall Cuz of their long legs. I know a tall girl (5'10) and a short girl (5'3) and their sitting heights are the same. So how would the short girl look horrible if she does 7 inches? She would just get the same proportions as the tall girl which looks normal. You're just worrying too much about proportions. Every tall dutch man looks like apotheosis and his proportions are more than normal over here

You are aware that ass size comes into the equation when you talk about sitting height (A reason why girls have "tall" sitting height)..
 Probably addind 10cm wont look wierd but adding more will... Also, you dont into the equation hand size (Look at the mockering of Trump which makes me wonder if he did LL hihi), shoulder width... But I do agree that people take proportions too serious here... Tibias wont effect proportions as much as femurs will since the distance between the knee and the tip of the hands will remain the same.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TIBIKE200 on March 22, 2016, 09:58:06 PM
btw, look at the link in the satyrical wikipedia about apotheosis. It was posted here in the off topic section. There is a photo of him with a blue shirt (that is going well below his weistline... If he will but an adherent shirt, he will look like a midget on stilts... Even with his arms being already lengthened
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Polycrates. on March 24, 2016, 01:55:25 AM
I can say with absolute certainty the sitting height of the 6'6 isn't the same as a 5'5 girl. The mind can play tricks and make people see what they want to see. I guarantee his torso is significantly longer than the girls
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Alittletooshort on March 24, 2016, 03:08:24 PM
I can say with absolute certainty the sitting height of the 6'6 isn't the same as a 5'5 girl. The mind can play tricks and make people see what they want to see. I guarantee his torso is significantly longer than the girls
How is your recovery going, if I may ask? How would you describe your knee height? Is it somehwhat obvious that they have been lengthened?
There is no way a 6'6 guy and a 5'5 guy have the same sh, so many people here are delusional when it comes to LL.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Knik on March 24, 2016, 03:10:22 PM
I can say with absolute certainty the sitting height of the 6'6 isn't the same as a 5'5 girl. The mind can play tricks and make people see what they want to see. I guarantee his torso is significantly longer than the girls

totally agree


" This all means that a lot of 5'8/9 guys can lengthen up to heights like 6'3/6'4 and still nobody will think you look weird."

maybe youre right, but such amount begins to be dangerous and 6'1 6'2 is a really good height everywhere (even in Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Iceland, USA, etc)
and i dont see where do you see this kind of people (sometimes I feel that you are living in a world where everyone is 2m), but when i see a 6'2 6'3 guy he looks very tall impossible to have the same sitting height as a 5'5 girl
for exemple look Mutara III (6'8') he look monstrously tall
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 24, 2016, 03:13:52 PM
http://thosemoes.com/stitch/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/20120828-203538.jpg what about this
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 24, 2016, 03:22:27 PM
totally agree


" This all means that a lot of 5'8/9 guys can lengthen up to heights like 6'3/6'4 and still nobody will think you look weird."

maybe youre right, but such amount begins to be dangerous and 6'1 6'2 is a really good height everywhere (even in Netherlands, Germany, Norway, Iceland, USA, etc)
and i dont see where do you see this kind of people (sometimes I feel that you are living in a world where everyone is 2m), but when i see a 6'2 6'3 guy he looks very tall impossible to have the same sitting height as a 5'5 girl
for exemple look Mutara III (6'8') he look monstrously tall

I live in Holland and I'm going to college. In my other class everybody was a lot shorter. But in my current class the average height is 1,88 m. Someone measured it for a project. So yes I live with giants
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Knik on March 24, 2016, 03:40:48 PM
I live in Holland and I'm going to college. In my other class everybody was a lot shorter. But in my current class the average height is 1,88 m. Someone measured it for a project. So yes I live with giants

and i imagine you see a lot of people this height  with 5'5 sitting height ?
where i live 6'6 is a girl height
i'm 6'4, in my college everybody are taller
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TIBIKE200 on March 24, 2016, 04:49:35 PM
Here is post 20cm apo (Went from 170 to 190)

  As it can clearly be seen, his torso is super short (I drew a black line just at where his pants really begin.. And not where he makes you believe they begin due to him wearing a super long shirt).

  He looks like a dwarf on stilts

http://i.imgur.com/WOJiop3.jpg
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: CCMidwest on March 24, 2016, 05:34:18 PM
Here is post 20cm apo (Went from 170 to 190)

  As it can clearly be seen, his torso is super short (I drew a black line just at where his pants really begin.. And not where he makes you believe they begin due to him wearing a super long shirt).

  He looks like a dwarf on stilts

http://i.imgur.com/WOJiop3.jpg

8"???

How is he not disabled?

So he could rest his chin on someone his old height?

Actual insanity.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Knik on March 24, 2016, 05:50:21 PM
Here is post 20cm apo (Went from 170 to 190)

  As it can clearly be seen, his torso is super short (I drew a black line just at where his pants really begin.. And not where he makes you believe they begin due to him wearing a super long shirt).

  He looks like a dwarf on stilts

http://i.imgur.com/WOJiop3.jpg


i read he was 5'6 (to 6'2) ?
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Knik on March 24, 2016, 05:52:24 PM
8"???

How is he not disabled?

So he could rest his chin on someone his old height?

Actual insanity.

he can't run
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: CCMidwest on March 24, 2016, 05:57:04 PM
he can't run

And people say I'm a narcissist...

What a freak
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Knik on March 24, 2016, 06:04:22 PM
And people say I'm a narcissist...

What a freak

Why ?
i'm not sur he cant run
he says he can
but there is a lot of rumors about him
and the doctor he choose is not reputed to be tricky
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Thatdude950 on March 24, 2016, 06:07:58 PM
There's some really awkward videos of him "running"
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Peaceout on March 24, 2016, 06:08:49 PM
He was 5'7(maybe a cm more) and he did almost 20 cm.He was super greedy imo.He could do 10 cm and have a better recorevy and much better proportions.(5'11 is a great height imo)Maybe he can run right now but im sure its very slow.And i doubt if he can walk 5-10 min without geting tired.
He will have so many long term problems.
And im very sure he wont go to a public beach or a pool again.. :)
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: CCMidwest on March 24, 2016, 06:12:22 PM
He was 5'7(maybe a cm more) and he did almost 20 cm.He was super greedy imo.He could do 10 cm and have a better recorevy and much better proportions.(5'11 is a great height imo)Maybe he can run right now but im sure its very slowly.And i doubt if he can walk 5-10 min without geting tired.
He will have so many long term problems.
And im very sure he wont go to a public beach or a pool again.. :)

I'm glad you can see reality.

Can't look good nked either, which is sort of important, lol.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: CCMidwest on March 24, 2016, 06:17:05 PM
look her in the eye during missionary but still tall, best of both worlds? Lol
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Peaceout on March 24, 2016, 06:46:20 PM
Yeah,im very realistic when it comes to this surgery and everyone should be like this..This is no joke.And about this topic DONT stop thinking about proportions.Proportions are important and nothing can change this.Be realistic.Dont try to fool yourself with "proportions are not important" just because you want to be taller.
You wont be able to reverse this procedure after its done.What will happen if you hate your body when you look at mirror?
Again,please be realistic.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: KiloKAHN on March 24, 2016, 07:15:24 PM
I like what Dr Birkholtz had to say about proportions in this post: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=137.msg2102#msg2102

I know many people go to a lot of trouble to talk about proportions, sitting height etc. What they're really trying to do is justify why they should lengthen extreme distances. Remember that longer distances may mean more height, but they also mean longer treatment times and exponentially more complications. This is especially common once we exceed the 2 inch mark for a segment. This is the main reason I would limit a lengthening to a maximum of 10cm in total - safety first. There is no sense in having beautiful long legs if you cannot use them!
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 24, 2016, 08:58:48 PM
I like what Dr Birkholtz had to say about proportions in this post: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=137.msg2102#msg2102

Yes he is right. Its bad for your health to get that much taller but he says nothing about looking weird. And that's what I mean. People are too scared to look weird
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Knik on March 24, 2016, 09:15:10 PM
Yes he is right. Its bad for your health to get that much taller but he says nothing about looking weird. And that's what I mean. People are too scared to look weird

no interest to risk your health just because you want to be taller as your friends
185-188 seems good, even if 188 is the average
but I think you've already thought it
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 24, 2016, 11:28:07 PM
no interest to risk your health just because you want to be taller as your friends
185-188 seems good, even if 188 is the average
but I think you've already thought it

Its not worth it to risk your health i agree but this topic isn't about health. Its about people stressing too much to look weird after lengthening a lot. But i wouldn't do it too cuz of health reasons. My point was that most people dont have to worry about proportions since theres very little chance to look weird. And i dobt think apotheosis looks weird in the photo. My 6'3 natural friend has the same proportions.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TIBIKE200 on March 24, 2016, 11:38:19 PM
I think that 10-12cm is really the max in terms of proportions (two surgeries)
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: CCMidwest on March 24, 2016, 11:48:05 PM
Its not worth it to risk your health i agree but this topic isn't about health. Its about people stressing too much to look weird after lengthening a lot. But i wouldn't do it too cuz of health reasons. My point was that most people dont have to worry about proportions since theres very little chance to look weird. And i dobt think apotheosis looks weird in the photo. My 6'3 natural friend has the same proportions.

I think people should be more concerned with how they look to themselves

as peaceout said if you hate the way you look every time you look in the mirror you're going to have a bad time

I personally would never do femurs exactly for that reason, I would never mentally get over the fact that my knees were further away from my hands
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Alittletooshort on March 25, 2016, 02:50:04 AM
Its not worth it to risk your health i agree but this topic isn't about health. Its about people stressing too much to look weird after lengthening a lot. But i wouldn't do it too cuz of health reasons. My point was that most people dont have to worry about proportions since theres very little chance to look weird. And i dobt think apotheosis looks weird in the photo. My 6'3 natural friend has the same proportions.
This is just wrong, I doubt that you have ever seen a LL'er (with 8cm+) standing next to a guy who has the same height naturally. 10 out of 10 times you'd be able to tell who has gotten his limbs lengthened.
Apotheosis looks extremly weird next to a 6'3 guy, he sags his pants and wears oversized shirts and still looks weird. His hands and feet are tiny compared to a 6'3 guy, his shoulders are narrower as well. This guy is basically all legs. I doubt that he can run for longer than just a couple of minutes.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Knik on March 25, 2016, 07:28:41 AM
15 cm in some cases is not shocking at all
the problem is the arms

I'll take two comparisons:
The football player Valbuena (1m67)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Valais_Cup_2013_-_OM-FC_Porto_13-07-2013_-_Mathieu_Valbuena_%C3%A0_l'%C3%A9chauffement.jpg/220px-Valais_Cup_2013_-_OM-FC_Porto_13-07-2013_-_Mathieu_Valbuena_%C3%A0_l'%C3%A9chauffement.jpg
small arms, little legs, it would be shocking if it was 1m75


Verratti (1m65)
http://images3.maxifoot.fr/marco-verratti-62.jpg
It is smaller but yet its proportions make it seem taller
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: theuprising on March 25, 2016, 12:36:54 PM
This is just wrong, I doubt that you have ever seen a LL'er (with 8cm+) standing next to a guy who has the same height naturally. 10 out of 10 times you'd be able to tell who has gotten his limbs lengthened.
Apotheosis looks extremly weird next to a 6'3 guy, he sags his pants and wears oversized shirts and still looks weird. His hands and feet are tiny compared to a 6'3 guy, his shoulders are narrower as well. This guy is basically all legs. I doubt that he can run for longer than just a couple of minutes.

There are very few side by side comparison pictures for limb lengthening. With good reason. I'll leave this here.

http://imgur.com/jnL3729
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TIBIKE200 on March 25, 2016, 12:39:07 PM
There are very few side by side comparison pictures for limb lengthening. With good reason. I'll leave this here.

http://imgur.com/jnL3729

How much did this guy lengthened and where (femur or tibia?)?
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: theuprising on March 25, 2016, 12:41:50 PM
How much did this guy lengthened and where (femur or tibia?)?

Out of curiosity how much do you think he did?
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: CCMidwest on March 25, 2016, 12:46:21 PM
Out of curiosity how much do you think he did?

He went from 168 to 179

7+4 for an 11cm total

According to Sweden's old diary on old forum
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: CCMidwest on March 25, 2016, 12:48:32 PM
This forum corrects my words to "old forum" if I type the name of the old forum?
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Peaceout on March 25, 2016, 12:57:45 PM
Out of curiosity how much do you think he did?
probably around 10 cm?Do you know how much he did?
man..look at his hands...
He doesnt look like a ''freak'' imo.But his proportions are not acceptable for me.And im very sure he wont go to beach again like apo  ;)
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Peaceout on March 25, 2016, 12:58:47 PM
He went from 168 to 179

7+4 for an 11cm total

According to Sweden's old diary on old forum
hehe i was close :)
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: theuprising on March 25, 2016, 01:04:12 PM
probably around 10 cm?Do you know how much he did?
man..look at his hands...
He doesnt look like a ''freak'' imo.But his proportions are not acceptable for me.And im very sure he wont go to beach again like apo  ;)

Pretty much it all depends what you want out the surgery. Some are willing to sacrifice appearance and athletic ability for those extra cm.
This surgery is a tradeoff.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Alittletooshort on March 25, 2016, 01:07:36 PM
I was refering to this picture but unfortunately didn´t find it , I think it proves my point. If this was 11cm´s just imagine how it would  look like if he did 20cm´s instead of 11.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: CCMidwest on March 25, 2016, 01:08:05 PM
Pretty much it all depends what you want out the surgery. Some are willing to sacrifice appearance and athletic ability for those extra cm.
This surgery is a tradeoff.

Yeah, it doesn't look like the guy in the pic was much of an athlete to begin with.

But for us active guys, it matters a lot for sure.

So does looking good nked.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: theuprising on March 25, 2016, 01:14:18 PM
I was refering to this picture but unfortunately didn´t find it , I think it proves my point. If this was 11cm´s just imagine how it would  look like if he did 20cm´s instead of 11.

I'd be interested to see what people on the forum would think if there was no comparison and it was just him in the picture. The reviews would be far more favorable I'm sure, unless you're planning on being a hermit and not being compared to those around you when in public then proportions do hold some degree of importance. How much is up to the individual to decide.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TIBIKE200 on March 25, 2016, 01:27:05 PM
I'd be interested to see what people on the forum would think if there was no comparison and it was just him in the picture. The reviews would be far more favorable I'm sure, unless you're planning on being a hermit and not being compared to those around you when in public then proportions do hold some degree of importance. How much is up to the individual to decide.

1) His legs are super skinny since he still can't use them. Once he will be able to build some muscles things will even out a bit

2) I believe that starting height as alot to do with proportions since the taller you start the bigger your wingspan, hand size, shoulder width.

3) It seems that this guy has super small hands while the other guy has huge hands
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: theuprising on March 25, 2016, 01:47:38 PM
1) His legs are super skinny since he still can't use them. Once he will be able to build some muscles things will even out a bit

2) I believe that starting height as alot to do with proportions since the taller you start the bigger your wingspan, hand size, shoulder width.

3) It seems that this guy has super small hands while the other guy has huge hands

1) His legs are not even the main point of disproportion.

2) Obviously

3) Assumption
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: chineseguy on March 25, 2016, 01:53:12 PM
i dont know if hand size and feet size and shoulder witdth has is porportion to height.   my friends cousins and brother height is 173 -178 cm     we wear same shoe size, measured hand are same. we borrow shirt also from each other.   shirt also are same.   i see their legs longer but not sure arm size.

i notice this  guy who always play basketabll      my classmate before,  he is 170 cm only but his hands are bigger than my friends 175 cm above
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: theuprising on March 25, 2016, 02:15:25 PM
i dont know if hand size and feet size and shoulder witdth has is porportion to height.   my friends cousins and brother height is 173 -178 cm     we wear same shoe size, measured hand are same. we borrow shirt also from each other.   shirt also are same.   i see their legs longer but not sure arm size.

i notice this  guy who always play basketabll      my classmate before,  he is 170 cm only but his hands are bigger than my friends 175 cm above


Wrong, read this :

http://msis.jsc.nasa.gov/sections/section03.htm

You'll notice how as height increases other body measurements also increase in size.

While your anecdotal evidence is interesting I'll take the NASA measurements every time.

Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: theuprising on March 25, 2016, 02:17:02 PM
double post
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Peaceout on March 25, 2016, 02:32:55 PM
I'd be interested to see what people on the forum would think if there was no comparison and it was just him in the picture. The reviews would be far more favorable I'm sure, unless you're planning on being a hermit and not being compared to those around you when in public then proportions do hold some degree of importance. How much is up to the individual to decide.
Thats true.Thats why people should stick to small amounts.But its their decision w/e.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Peaceout on March 25, 2016, 02:38:03 PM

Wrong, read this :

http://msis.jsc.nasa.gov/sections/section03.htm

You'll notice how as height increases other body measurements also increase in size.

While your anecdotal evidence is interesting I'll take the NASA measurements every time.
That is also true :) Of course with height increase other parts of body will increase in size.But there are exceptions(maybe its not so common but there are)
Specially shoe size varies a lot.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TIBIKE200 on March 25, 2016, 02:50:21 PM
My shoe size is 43 (dont know the number in US) which is considered pretty big
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TrueSpartan on March 25, 2016, 04:19:20 PM
Tbike my shoe size is also 43, in canada And US that's 9.5 and on the smaller size actually. My little brother is size 13  :-X
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TIBIKE200 on March 25, 2016, 04:30:36 PM
Tbike my shoe size is also 43, in canada And US that's 9.5 and on the smaller size actually. My little brother is size 13  :-X

My father is 2cm taller than me and he has 40 shoe size. I dont think that everyone are the same... Even with the NASA thingy, it's the average measurments... We will be fine if we dont exaggerate with the cms... 6 max per segment
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: chineseguy on March 25, 2016, 04:43:23 PM
im also 43, my cousin is 43 175cm  i have bigger hand,  brother is 43 175cm  we are same hand, my dad is 43 173cm same hand, my best freind is 175 cm  43  longer by 0.5 cm hand, 178 cm friend is 43 too,  maybe 43 is the average shoe size of northern chinese people

i just measure my legs,  if I lengthen to be 175 cm,   i will have same leg length with brother, but shorter arms by 2.5cm  each, his upper arm is longer than my,my brother sister mom and dad say it is not notice.      just go aheaad and look for a dotor who can make sure you can recover
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 25, 2016, 05:47:32 PM
This is just wrong, I doubt that you have ever seen a LL'er (with 8cm+) standing next to a guy who has the same height naturally. 10 out of 10 times you'd be able to tell who has gotten his limbs lengthened.
Apotheosis looks extremly weird next to a 6'3 guy, he sags his pants and wears oversized shirts and still looks weird. His hands and feet are tiny compared to a 6'3 guy, his shoulders are narrower as well. This guy is basically all legs. I doubt that he can run for longer than just a couple of minutes.

Did you see the picture I sent. Just look at that one
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Alittletooshort on March 25, 2016, 05:50:42 PM
Did you see the picture I sent. Just look at that one
Which one?
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 25, 2016, 06:04:06 PM
Which one?

http://thosemoes.com/stitch/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/20120828-203538.jpg
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Alu on March 25, 2016, 06:53:34 PM
http://thosemoes.com/stitch/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/20120828-203538.jpg

Sitting height is not a good indicator of torso length. Never has been really. It's part torso length and part fat and/or muscle in the glutes (ass). It's more of a lazy reference for overall body proportion.

That pic is not at all representative of what would most sitting heights are. The woman even looks like she has a pretty big butt (Dat ass).

The only thing I ever came close to considering as being a good indication of leg length relative to height is True Inseam; but that's hard to measure and get a proper reference for since most people consider inseam as being pant length.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 25, 2016, 06:58:12 PM
Sitting height is not a good indicator of torso length. Never has been really. It's part torso length and part fat and/or muscle in the glutes (ass). It's more of a lazy reference for overall body proportion.

That pic is not at all representative of what would most sitting heights are. The woman even looks like she has a pretty big butt (Dat ass).

The only thing I ever came close to considering as being a good indication of leg length relative to height is True Inseam; but that's hard to measure and get a proper reference for since most people consider inseam as being pant length.

You're right but you have to understand that nobody gives so much attention to the lil details. You and some old forum members are probably the only one who look so closely to proportions by counting numbers etc. Nobody cares that much about proportions like forum members.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TIBIKE200 on March 25, 2016, 07:00:34 PM
You're right but you have to understand that nobody gives so much attention to the lil details. You and some old forum members are probably the only one who look so closely to proportions by counting numbers etc. Nobody cares that much about proportions like forum members.

You are right. I dont remember ever noticing proportions before thinking about LL. BUT I do think that one should not go and do 8cm per segment (My opinion). I believe that 4-5 inches in total are a max in order to be considered within the normal range.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 25, 2016, 07:07:38 PM
You are right. I dont remember ever noticing proportions before thinking about LL. BUT I do think that one should not go and do 8cm per segment (My opinion). I believe that 4-5 inches in total are a max in order to be considered within the normal range.

That's true. It depends on the person. Everybody is unique. I think the reason why my sitting height is similar to 6'5 guys is cuz I got a very big torso. Its 96 cm. Dutch people got an average sitting height of 94/95. Most 5'8 guys got big torsos too.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 25, 2016, 07:14:05 PM
You are right. I dont remember ever noticing proportions before thinking about LL. BUT I do think that one should not go and do 8cm per segment (My opinion). I believe that 4-5 inches in total are a max in order to be considered within the normal range.

By lengthening that much you prolly have to lengthen your arms too. But thats no problem since it is possible
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Knik on March 25, 2016, 07:24:18 PM
By lengthening that much you prolly have to lengthen your arms too. But thats no problem since it is possible


arms lenghtening is very dangerous, no ?
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: CCMidwest on March 25, 2016, 07:49:48 PM
Sitting height is not a good indicator of torso length. Never has been really. It's part torso length and part fat and/or muscle in the glutes (ass). It's more of a lazy reference for overall body proportion.

That pic is not at all representative of what would most sitting heights are. The woman even looks like she has a pretty big butt (Dat ass).

The only thing I ever came close to considering as being a good indication of leg length relative to height is True Inseam; but that's hard to measure and get a proper reference for since most people consider inseam as being pant length.

How does one measure true inseam? It's pubic arch of the pelvis bone to the floor, no?
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 25, 2016, 08:01:58 PM

arms lenghtenias ng is very dangerous, no ?

Yes it is, lengthening 8 inches is dangerous too. But this topic isn't about danger. It's about that most people won't look weird after lengtheing a lot since taller people don't have longer torso's most of the time.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Peaceout on March 25, 2016, 08:44:14 PM
That's true. It depends on the person. Everybody is unique. I think the reason why my sitting height is similar to 6'5 guys is cuz I got a very big torso. Its 96 cm. Dutch people got an average sitting height of 94/95. Most 5'8 guys got big torsos too.
You are saying your sitting height is same with some 6'5 guys.
lol what kind of a bul  is that?  :O
You are just another beginner on this forum.I hate you guys.
''Hey guys,im new here i will do LL.Dont worry about proportions.Nobody cares about proportions, even if i go for like 4-5 inches its fine because people dont care about proportions"
Oh my god and your last post,"taller people dont have longer torsos most of the time"?
Like,what the fk?
"Most people wont look weird after lengthening a lot since...blabla"
Stop being such a fcking polyanna about this.You will look like a spider.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: LLCaptain on March 25, 2016, 09:09:33 PM
You are saying your sitting height is same with some 6'5 guys.
lol what kind of a bulcrap is that?  :O
You are just another beginner on this forum.I hate you guys.
''Hey guys,im new here i will do LL.Dont worry about proportions.Nobody cares about proportions, even if i go for like 4-5 inches its fine because people dont care about proportions"
Oh my god and your last post,"taller people dont have longer torsos most of the time"?
Like,what the fk?
"Most people wont look weird after lengthening a lot since...blabla"
Stop being such a fcking polyanna about this.You will look like a spider.

Best thing I read all week. So many fking plebs here and possibly children.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Knik on March 25, 2016, 09:13:28 PM
What is your height OP ?
I think you have to analyze and speak about your proportions with your doctor first
but i dont believe you about the same sh btween 6'6 guy and 5'5 girl
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: CCMidwest on March 25, 2016, 09:21:47 PM
You are saying your sitting height is same with some 6'5 guys.
lol what kind of a bulcrap is that?  :O
You are just another beginner on this forum.I hate you guys.
''Hey guys,im new here i will do LL.Dont worry about proportions.Nobody cares about proportions, even if i go for like 4-5 inches its fine because people dont care about proportions"
Oh my god and your last post,"taller people dont have longer torsos most of the time"?
Like,what the fk?
"Most people wont look weird after lengthening a lot since...blabla"
Stop being such a fcking polyanna about this.You will look like a spider.

If my torso isn't shorter than average, I'm gonna go get all that money back from my tailor for shortening my shirts!

And why are people so cavalier? Its ok, I'll just lengthen my arms too...what??

This is your life, your health, and your only body! I live with chronic pain already. Pain  in my arm everyday, 24/7!

Chronic pain can literally drive you insane if you let it.

Listen to peaceout!
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Alittletooshort on March 25, 2016, 09:22:01 PM
That's true. It depends on the person. Everybody is unique. I think the reason why my sitting height is similar to 6'5 guys is cuz I got a very big torso. Its 96 cm. Dutch people got an average sitting height of 94/95. Most 5'8 guys got big torsos too.
I'd really like to see a picture of your proportions, it must look really weird if your torso is as long as the one of a 6'5 guy.I personally have never seen a person like this in my life and I pay a lot of attention to proportions.
6'5 guys almost always have longer torsos than me and I'm 5'10, it's far more likely that you just see things differently, in order to convince yourself how unimportant proportions are. You probably have a slightly disturbed perception when it comes to your body. No offense man, but what you've said is BS.
Look at the picture that was posted by Theuprising, this shows how torso length and height correlate.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 25, 2016, 11:01:14 PM
I'd really like to see a picture of your proportions, it must look really weird if your torso is as long as the one of a 6'5 guy.I personally have never seen a person like this in my life and I pay a lot of attention to proportions.
6'5 guys almost always have longer torsos than me and I'm 5'10, it's far more likely that you just see things differently, in order to convince yourself how unimportant proportions are. You probably have a slightly disturbed perception when it comes to your body. No offense man, but what you've said is BS.
Look at the picture that was posted by Theuprising, this shows how torso length and height correlate.

i dont have a pic right now but im 173 cm. sitting height is 96 cm
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 25, 2016, 11:06:24 PM
You are saying your sitting height is same with some 6'5 guys.
lol what kind of a bulcrap is that?  :O
You are just another beginner on this forum.I hate you guys.
''Hey guys,im new here i will do LL.Dont worry about proportions.Nobody cares about proportions, even if i go for like 4-5 inches its fine because people dont care about proportions"
Oh my god and your last post,"taller people dont have longer torsos most of the time"?
Like,what the fk?
"Most people wont look weird after lengthening a lot since...blabla"
Stop being such a fcking polyanna about this.You will look like a spider.

if you had paid some attention to the pic i had posted then maybe you would understand. it is a photo of a man and a woman next to each other. the man's sitting height is just 1 inch more but his overall height is like a whole foot more. dont reply with bull  like you have to measure inseem or you have to look to hands too cuz only proportion obsessed people look at that kind of things and thats maybe 0,001% of the total world population lol
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 25, 2016, 11:08:06 PM
If my torso isn't shorter than average, I'm gonna go get all that money back from my tailor for shortening my shirts!

And why are people so cavalier? Its ok, I'll just lengthen my arms too...what??

This is your life, your health, and your only body! I live with chronic pain already. Pain  in my arm everyday, 24/7!

Chronic pain can literally drive you insane if you let it.

Listen to peaceout!

its not about health in this topic its about looks
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Alu on March 25, 2016, 11:27:22 PM
if you had paid some attention to the pic i had posted then maybe you would understand. it is a photo of a man and a woman next to each other. the man's sitting height is just 1 inch more but his overall height is like a whole foot more. dont reply with bullcrap like you have to measure inseem or you have to look to hands too cuz only proportion obsessed people look at that kind of things and thats maybe 0,001% of the total world population lol

That doesn't translate well to overall proportions. Sit next to a guy 3-4 inches taller then you. Notice how even if you guys are at eye contact he will be more balanced out.

Your also playing with mind-games here. There's no way in hell someone who's 6'0+ has the same torso length as you.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 25, 2016, 11:29:00 PM
That doesn't translate well to overall proportions. Sit next to a guy 3-4 inches taller then you. Notice how even if you guys are at eye contact he will be more balanced out.

Your also playing with mind-games here. There's no way in hell someone who's 6'0+ has the same torso length as you.

take a look. this is my body http://s772.photobucket.com/user/melmalkie/media/IMG_20140809_155407_zps0fzde10j.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TIBIKE200 on March 25, 2016, 11:50:52 PM
take a look. this is my body http://s772.photobucket.com/user/melmalkie/media/IMG_20140809_155407_zps0fzde10j.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1

Your torso doesnt look longer than any normal guy. You do look a bit chubby (which would explain your sitting height: fatter ass=highier sitting height).

In the end you look like a normal 173 guy
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 26, 2016, 12:05:51 AM
Your torso doesnt look longer than any normal guy. You do look a bit chubby (which would explain your sitting height: fatter ass=highier sitting height).

In the end you look like a normal 173 guy

maybe, ive posted this picture a few months ago on the forum with another account and asked people bout my desire to lengthen up to 6'1. most said that it is possible cuz according to them my legs were short. it can be very subjective
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: Alittletooshort on March 26, 2016, 12:06:17 AM
If you didn't make a mistake at measuring, it has got to be your ass that is responsible for your sitting height. Your torso doesn't look long at all, it looks average for a 5'8 guy.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 26, 2016, 12:10:54 AM
If you didn't make a mistake at measuring, it has got to be your ass that is responsible for your sitting height. Your torso doesn't look long at all, it looks average for a 5'8 guy.

i never measured my sitting height but i know that pants with a length of 77 cm fit me perfectly. 173-77=96. maybe the ass still made a difference. i dont know
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TIBIKE200 on March 26, 2016, 12:28:31 AM
In my case, no pants fit me. I always need to shorten them by 5-8cms....
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 26, 2016, 01:07:44 AM
In my case, no pants fit me. I always need to shorten them by 5-8cms....

what is your height? just interested
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: TIBIKE200 on March 26, 2016, 02:18:37 PM
what is your height? just interested

171
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: dvan0 on March 27, 2016, 07:42:35 AM
Noname you should probably measure you sitting height. The length of your pants also depends on the style.
Title: Re: stop thinking about proportions
Post by: noname on March 27, 2016, 02:10:18 PM
Noname you should pliteasure you sitting height. The length of your pants also depends on the style.

I wear normal jeans. I don't sag my pants and i also don't wear them too high. I bought jeans that are a little bit too long for me cuz of my elevator shoes