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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: CaptainAmerica on February 21, 2018, 08:58:29 PM
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Every result that exceeds that length faces complications and has trouble recovering in the long term. This has been common knowledge for almost 2 years now on here but people are still doing it. Just curious why,.
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Well I don't know about other people but I am only 163 cm or 5'4" and I have to lengthen my legs by 12 cm to reach the average that is 175 cm/ 5'9". I plan to do CLL and lengthen equally my femur and tibia by 6cm.
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I've seen many diaries of people doing 6-7 cm or even 8cm and everything was good.
so "every results" = bull
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Well I don't know about other people but I am only 163 cm or 5'4" and I have to lengthen my legs by 12 cm to reach the average that is 175 cm/ 5'9". I plan to do CLL and lengthen equally my femur and tibia by 6cm.
should do 7 femur
5 tibia
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I've seen many diaries of people doing 6-7 cm or even 8cm and everything was good.
so "every results" = bull
Would appreciate a link.
I’m really curious.
Are you counting guys like DIFM?
He’s “satisfied” but had disunion for a long time trouble walking etc...
Ideal is recovery to be able to walk and run again and have healthy full bones.
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Well I don't know about other people but I am only 163 cm or 5'4" and I have to lengthen my legs by 12 cm to reach the average that is 175 cm/ 5'9". I plan to do CLL and lengthen equally my femur and tibia by 6cm.
Have you seen how poor proportions look once you pass 3 inches? Especially the shorter the height you start off at.
I wouldn’t suggest going over 3 inches, seriously. Just naturally in real life look at a 5’4 guy and a 5’7 guy and how different their bodies are.
IMO this surgery should be 2 inches recommend 3.5 inches max. Anything beyond that good luck recovering and good luck in old age.
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Every result that exceeds that length faces complications and has trouble recovering in the long term. This has been common knowledge for almost 2 years now on here but people are still doing it. Just curious why,.
I can't speak to Surgeons elsewhere, but a lot of the western doctors use Precise, and the up-front cost of the procedure, PT, .etc is basically the same no matter how far you go. When you're investing so much in this, it's mentally hard to accept less. I bet if the pricing was different based on the length and reflected the additional cost of recovery for long lengths, people would choose differently.
That said, from my admirably non-scientific review of people's stories, it seems like 6-6.5cm on the femurs seem not to have a problem; those who push closer to 8cm seem to have a lot of problems. (If anyone disagrees with my assessment, I'm curious to hear.). For tibia, you might be right, but I haven't looked at closely.
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Every result that exceeds that length faces complications and has trouble recovering in the long term. This has been common knowledge for almost 2 years now on here but people are still doing it. Just curious why,.
Because 10cm are not enough for many of us.
I wouldn't do 2 LLs only to hit 1.78 while I reached 1.75+ with 1.
And if I didn't used crap monorails and could walk from the beginning I would't have bf and do atl and all these , I'd have beem finee even with 7.5cm on my tibias.
My proportions look better than before LL and after a second 7cm on my femurs I'd look even better.
5cm are safe(r) but that doesn't mean that with 7cm you'll have permanent problems, especially on femurs.
Yes, the rehabilitation will be longer but nothing more.
And yes, if someone has a good starting height then 5-6 cm in one segment are more than ok but if someone is less than 1.65 then 10cm are nothing special for all the money and the time 2LL need.
Moreover, 1 LL of 5cm is nothing for lets say an 1.60cm man. He becomes from way too short to just very short. Nothing special.
So for all this reasons people do more than 5cm. And it is very normal.
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Because 10cm are not enough for many of us.
I wouldn't do 2 LLs only to hit 1.78 while I reached 1.75+ with 1.
And if I didn't used crap monorails and could walk from the beginning I would't have bf and do atl and all these , I'd have beem finee even with 7.5cm on my tibias.
My proportions look better than before LL and after a second 7cm on my femurs I'd look even better.
5cm are safe(r) but that doesn't mean that with 7cm you'll have permanent problems, especially on femurs.
Yes, the rehabilitation will be longer but nothing more.
And yes, if someone has a good starting height then 5-6 cm in one segment are more than ok but if someone is less than 1.65 then 10cm are nothing special for all the money and the time 2LL need.
Moreover, 1 LL of 5cm is nothing for lets say an 1.60cm man. He becomes from way too short to just very short. Nothing special.
So for all this reasons people do more than 5cm. And it is very normal.
I find that hard to believe. This is what someone who lengthens 3 inches looks like:
(https://i.imgur.com/uZPId0s.jpg)
And after that point, it only gets worse. Remember for every inch in human height, the head, chest, hands, etc... They all get much bigger in proportion as well.
Idk, maybe I just see this surgery different than 99.9% of the people on here. I'm not trying to be "tall" I know I'll never be tall, my 5'6 head, frame, body, torso length, chest, etc.. They were never ever meant for a tall person. That's fine, I'm alright with being 5'8, 5'9, I know I can look reasonable there. But I definitely won't look reasonable at 5'11, standing next to other guys.
Not to mention the mechanical problems you'll face when you pass say, 8cm total as well. A lot of people on hear don't want to accept it, but it's the reality. Be thankful that you are able to cheat your genetics for any height at all, but you won't be tall and you won't look good tall nor will you function well.
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Here's a good example of 5'5 Bruno Mars next to 5'9 Adele at face level.
(https://www.billboard.com/files/styles/article_main_image/public/stylus/503739-adele-bruno-mars-617-409.jpg)
And remember, females have much smaller heads than men on average. Just look at how ridiculous that looks. His shoulder girdle and body frame is much less wide than hers as well, even when you account for her weight, it's obvious to the eyes.
IMO a big mistake people on here make is taking solo photos of themselves in a distorted mirror or from an angle that makes their torsos look longer so they look better when they make mockups.... You have to think about what you'd look like next to REAL people. What you see alone in the mirror doesn't matter.
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CLL is already a big gamble with a big money and time commitment, so I think most people just try pushing it as far as their body allows.
Which is not the wisest choice, but it's understandable.
Remember for every inch in human height, the head, chest, hands, etc... They all get much bigger in proportion as well.
There's enough natural variation in humanity that I don't find this a factor at all. It'd be like wondering if Trump got LL done because his hands are too small for his height. Smaller head sizes are also actively selected for in East Asia, because they find it a sign of beauty.
I won't discuss what looks good, either. I just find the worry that others will care or notice minor dis-proportionality to be greatly overstated here. If you want height over perfect proportions, go for it. The risk of complications should be the main worry.
Idk, maybe I just see this surgery different than 99.9% of the people on here. I'm not trying to be "tall" I know I'll never be tall, my 5'6 head, frame, body, torso length, chest, etc.. They were never ever meant for a tall person. That's fine, I'm alright with being 5'8, 5'9, I know I can look reasonable there.
Hey, that's good. Despite what I just said, I think aiming for safer amounts and being satisfied with them is the way to go.
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Correcting CaptainAmerica, Bruno Mars is way less than 5-5 and Adele is not even 5-8 (probably 5-7)
Stop believing them, you can well see there is not 10 cm between them
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It really sucks that my I am gonna be disproportionate after lengthening 12 cm but I have no choice guys. I want to reproduce and being this short I would never get to date girls that are close to 173-175 cm. I already hate my father for passing on his manlet genes but now I have to "responsible" and will have to marry a girl that is tall and can't do that at 163 cm only.
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Here's a good example of 5'5 Bruno Mars next to 5'9 Adele at face level.
(https://www.billboard.com/files/styles/article_main_image/public/stylus/503739-adele-bruno-mars-617-409.jpg)
And remember, females have much smaller heads than men on average. Just look at how ridiculous that looks. His shoulder girdle and body frame is much less wide than hers as well, even when you account for her weight, it's obvious to the eyes.
IMO a big mistake people on here make is taking solo photos of themselves in a distorted mirror or from an angle that makes their torsos look longer so they look better when they make mockups.... You have to think about what you'd look like next to REAL people. What you see alone in the mirror doesn't matter.
Guess I will have to do some HGH to increase my head and hands size. Hopefully Penis size will increase aswell.
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Correcting CaptainAmerica, Bruno Mars is way less than 5-5 and Adele is not even 5-8 (probably 5-7)
Stop believing them, you can well see there is not 10 cm between them
Okay so Bruno Mars is 5’4 and she is 5’’8...
And the reason their isn’t that much difference between them is because Adele is kneeling down slightly.
That’s why I used this photo, to show how different their proportions are since they’re both at face level.
Still the truth is the truth, lengthening over 3 inches you will look comical in real life next to other people.
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It really sucks that my I am gonna be disproportionate after lengthening 12 cm but I have no choice guys. I want to reproduce and being this short I would never get to date girls that are close to 173-175 cm. I already hate my father for passing on his manlet genes but now I have to "responsible" and will have to marry a girl that is tall and can't do that at 163 cm only.
Lol girls of that height still won’t like you because you will be much smaller than them. Even if you worked out you would probably still be just as wide as them and have a smaller head. They will compare you to previous boyfriends and immediately know. Sorry bro.
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Lol girls of that height still won’t like you because you will be much smaller than them. Even if you worked out you would probably still be just as wide as them and have a smaller head. They will compare you to previous boyfriends and immediately know. Sorry bro.
everybody has a different bone structure. ive seen some wide ass men with big heads that are 5'6-5'7
but you are right for the most part. I am lengthening only 3-4 cm to avoid any problems with proportions. (but i also can prob get away with lengthening more because i have short legs... wear only 30 inseam)
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also you can add some width to your shoulders by hitting your side delts hard.
but i feel one should only do 3 inches if they have the appropriate bone structure/ratios to still look proportionate
the biggest deterrent should not be head size.
it is shoulder width, arm length, torso to leg ratio.
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I find that hard to believe. This is what someone who lengthens 3 inches looks like:
(https://i.imgur.com/uZPId0s.jpg)
And after that point, it only gets worse. Remember for every inch in human height, the head, chest, hands, etc... They all get much bigger in proportion as well.
Idk, maybe I just see this surgery different than 99.9% of the people on here. I'm not trying to be "tall" I know I'll never be tall, my 5'6 head, frame, body, torso length, chest, etc.. They were never ever meant for a tall person. That's fine, I'm alright with being 5'8, 5'9, I know I can look reasonable there. But I definitely won't look reasonable at 5'11, standing next to other guys.
Not to mention the mechanical problems you'll face when you pass say, 8cm total as well. A lot of people on hear don't want to accept it, but it's the reality. Be thankful that you are able to cheat your genetics for any height at all, but you won't be tall and you won't look good tall nor will you function well.
the guy on the right... his head and hand size looks fine. its actually bigger than the guy on left.
the biggest factor is his arm length and shoulder width which make him look not proportional
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@CaptainAmerica Are you sure about this? I thought I heard some where that a 5'8" guy has the same torso and head as a 6 feet guy or something, I have seen many 5'9"s with small head but the only thing that'll be a problem is the torso length and wingspan.
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@MirinHeight yeah my wingspan is shorter than my height because of my stumpy forearms, but my shoulders are wide. Torso is long and legs are shorter especially the femur.
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@CaptainAmerica Are you sure about this? I thought I heard some where that a 5'8" guy has the same torso and head as a 6 feet guy or something, I have seen many 5'9"s with small head but the only thing that'll be a problem is the torso length and wingspan.
Take every claim posted in these forums without proper sources with a big grain of salt.
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I don'tt understand why guys go over 2 cm per segment, everything after it is disproportionnal and dangerous
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Okay so Bruno Mars is 5’4 and she is 5’’8...
And the reason their isn’t that much difference between them is because Adele is kneeling down slightly.
That’s why I used this photo, to show how different their proportions are since they’re both at face level.
Still the truth is the truth, lengthening over 3 inches you will look comical in real life next to other people.
Stop saying things you don't know!.
I lengthened 3 inches and I look completely normal.
Yes my torso is a little short but my arms, my shoulders, my wrists, my head and generally everything is bigger than most of the men that are physically in my current height (5.9).
And I am sure I'll look better than most of the men of 5.11 height after I'll do my second LL because I'll be relatively tall without the skinny look that most of tall men have.
A short built man that does LL and is now more than average height due to longer legs but has still a bulk torso looks better than the majority of tall men.
So don't spread bs taking as an example a skinny little boy like Mars because there are plenty of short guys that looks like Lee Priest or Scott Caan (to not talk about bbers) that look like normal men but just short, not like kids. All these men will look terribly good after LL.
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Stop saying things you don't know!.
I lengthened 3 inches and I look completely normal.
Yes my torso is a little short but my arms, my shoulders, my wrists, my head and generally everything is bigger than most of the men that are physically in my current height (5.9).
And I am sure I'll look better than most of the men of 5.11 height after I'll do my second LL because I'll be relatively tall without the skinny look that most of tall men have.
A short built man that does LL and is now more than average height due to longer legs but has still a bulk torso looks better than the majority of tall men.
So don't spread bs taking as an example a skinny little boy like Mars because there are plenty of short guys that looks like Lee Priest or Scott Caan (to not talk about bbers) that look like normal men but just short, not like kids. All these men will look terribly good after LL.
How about the ones who have small head size? There is nothing to make head bigger. I am a guy (162,5 cm, wingspan 163) with small head size, and I really hate this ((. Even if i lengthen let's say by 10 cm (2 operations), i will end up with long legs and small head size. It seems like there is no way for a person who is below 165 with small head. Can building up muscles help to avoid this problem?
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also bruno mars is skinny af. dude legit looks like a twig
i advise everyone whos doing ll, to work out really hard especially your side delts and your back.
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How about the ones who have small head size? There is nothing to make head bigger. I am a guy (162,5 cm, wingspan 163) with small head size, and I really hate this ((. Even if i lengthen let's say by 10 cm (2 operations), i will end up with long legs and small head size. It seems like there is no way for a person who is below 165 with small head. Can building up muscles help to avoid this problem?
anyone who does 10 cm, will look somewhat disproportionate at the end of ll.
it is up to you to decide if 10 cm of height is more beneficial to you than being less proportionate.
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Yap will definitively have to work out the shoulders to make it look legit, @Tiger9898 brah do you think guys at our starting height are privileged enough to give a crap about proportions or head size or some bull ? I honestly just want to be tall and functioning that's enough for me.
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Natural proportions aren't perfect, and perfect proportions aren't necessarily natural. This is a point that I think gets missed here.
Different genes control the growth of different parts of your body, even if most of it is regulated by HGH. You may end as someone with small hands, short legs, or short arms for your height. If limb lengthening was easy, a lot more people would do it.
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Natural proportions aren't perfect, and perfect proportions aren't necessarily natural. This is a point that I think gets missed here.
Different genes control the growth of different parts of your body, even if most of it is regulated by HGH. You may end as someone with small hands, short legs, or short arms for your height. If limb lengthening was easy, a lot more people would do it.
true there are many outliers.
the question is... do you want to be an outlier?
doing 10+ cm puts you in outlier category for proportions
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true there are many outliers.
the question is... do you want to be an outlier?
doing 10+ cm puts you in outlier category for proportions
I'd take it, but I understand people who won't. Personally, I find the importance of just looking taller to be more important than proportions. However, that's probably due to my height. I guess I'd also not think that way if I was your height.
I also don't think disproportional = worse looking. It all depends on many factors.
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It really sucks that my I am gonna be disproportionate after lengthening 12 cm but I have no choice guys. I want to reproduce and being this short I would never get to date girls that are close to 173-175 cm. I already hate my father for passing on his manlet genes but now I have to "responsible" and will have to marry a girl that is tall and can't do that at 163 cm only.
How tall are your parents?
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Father is 168 cm while mother is 160 cm, the thing is all the relatives on my father's side are midgets that are less than 175 cm while on my mom's side they are greater than 175 cm. Damn these cursed manlet genes.
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Stop saying things you don't know!.
I lengthened 3 inches and I look completely normal.
Yes my torso is a little short but my arms, my shoulders, my wrists, my head and generally everything is bigger than most of the men that are physically in my current height (5.9).
And I am sure I'll look better than most of the men of 5.11 height after I'll do my second LL because I'll be relatively tall without the skinny look that most of tall men have.
A short built man that does LL and is now more than average height due to longer legs but has still a bulk torso looks better than the majority of tall men.
So don't spread bs taking as an example a skinny little boy like Mars because there are plenty of short guys that looks like Lee Priest or Scott Caan (to not talk about bbers) that look like normal men but just short, not like kids. All these men will look terribly good after LL.
These people you talk about have trained for over 10 years in the gym along with steroids. Not everyone who is going to do LL can or will do that. Especially after lengthening over 10cm, I feel like it may even be dangerous to attempt so. But I do agree that if you're a body builder or you're big you can offset the disproportion of LL to a degree.
What I disagree with is you saying these guys look like normal proportioned men.
(https://steroid.com/images/blog/1023/378_540.jpg)
It's still pretty obvious that they're short to me, and it honestly looks a bit comical putting all that muscle on a tiny frame like that. And he would look even more comical after LL, a stuffy looking short frame with ballooned up muscles walking on stilts, smh. Still he would probably look better in clothes and probably better overall than not working out.
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Father is 168 cm while mother is 160 cm, the thing is all the relatives on my father's side are midgets that are less than 175 cm while on my mom's side they are greater than 175 cm. Damn these cursed manlet genes.
Well, your mother is short too so it's not only his side's fault. The guys on your mom's side probably have taller dads as well.
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I don'tt understand why guys go over 2 cm per segment, everything after it is disproportionnal and dangerous
Obvious butthurt is obvious but you're getting closer to the truth than your previous beliefs.
I'm talking out of my ass here, but years ago, either on this forum, or the old old forum , or somewhere else like a medical journal, I read that the advised maximum lengthening for mobility and full mechanical recovery was a whopping whole 4cm or, 1.5 inches.
Which I agree with! That sounds realistic. The people on here who think you can spread apart your limbs by a full goddamn 5-6 inches and keep a normal gait and be healthy for the rest of your life are DELUSIONAL. And will cause a lot of problems for other people and themselves. You don't know how much you value your health until you lose it.
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@CaptainAmerica Obviously technology has improved since then, that is why lengthening 10 cm to 14 cm is reasonable and safe. Why do you think Paley has the limits set to 8 cm femur and 6 cm tibia??
@myloginacct Yes it's true but you have to understand all my maternal cousins are 6ft or above while my paternal cousins are midgets that are below 5'9". Yes they all have tall dads so If I had a tall dad I would be atleast 6ft.
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Obviously technology has improved since then, that is why lengthening 10 cm to 14 cm is reasonable and safe. Why do you think Paley has the limits set to 8 cm femur and 6 cm tibia??
What technology are you talking about? The human body has mechanically stayed the same for like over 500,000 years now, probably more. No matter how good the technology of the actual procedure itself gets, it doesn't matter because you are always at the whims of the mechanical and physical limits of your body itself.
Take any mechanical model where weight is suspended by a rod, pole, etc.. and see how well it functions after you add or subtract even 1 or 2 inches. It can have massive impacts on the efficiency. Granted, the human body is much more resilient, adaptive, and can withstand amazingly harsh conditions (just look at these bodybuilder dudes on steroids for 20+ years like Rich Piana lifting 500lbs+ and putting their body under immense stress constantly, and even obese 300+lb people who manage to survive over 10 years like that). But it isn't ideal. You will face leg pain, back pain, possibly be in a wheelchair at old age, etc..
Also, the biggest technological advancements have been weight-bearing and internal methods... Which still frequently cause disunions and long-term complications, at least with what I've seen here reading journals.
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My point was if Dr.Paley thinks he can lengthen 14 cm then it is obviously possible without much complication, sure you would never get your athletic performance back to 100% we all know that.
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My point was if Dr.Paley thinks he can lengthen 14 cm then it is obviously possible without much complication, sure you would never get your athletic performance back to 100% we all know that.
And Dr. Betz thinks you can lengthen 20cm. These are maximum limits so that really short guys will still give him $250,000 of business. This is a business after all. You want to make your market as big as possible. Realistically saying you can lengthen 2-3 inches isn't going to get all the 5'3-5'5 guys signing up in your office.
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But isn't Dr.Paley more credible since he pioneered the LL surgery with his precice device? I don't know much about this Dr.Betz but I know much more about Paley and since his reputation is at stake you would think he would be careful at operating people that would want to get 14 cm height increase?
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Yes they all have tall dads so If I had a tall dad I would be atleast 6ft.
No, you wouldn't... Your mother is 160cm. You'd probably be 168~176cm.
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Really? I see all her sisters are close to her height or more and their sons are all tall manmores so I don't know what to believe dude. I see all my maternal cousins and I just get angry and depressed. I feel like i was robbed of this glorious status because of my manlet father who is only 5'6.
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Check this thread (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3111.0) and see it for yourself.
I've never seen a guy with a tall dad (6'1~6'2, 185~188cm) get to 183cm (6 feet) with a 160cm mother. It'd be like she wasn't factored into the equation at all. I think you'd need at least a 167cm (5'6) mother.
However, I'm not from the US. I know there is a stupid 6 feet culture there. All the guys probably lie about it and maybe you don't know what that height actually looks like.
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I am not from US either dude, yeah I don't know their real heights but it's close to 180 cm. I think at 163 cm it's hard to judge someone's height that are taller than you by 10 cm or more. My cousins always say stuff like 6 ft or more I think they are lying but their fathers are tall like them. Genetics is a funny cruel mofo.
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Yap will definitively have to work out the shoulders to make it look legit, @Tiger9898 brah do you think guys at our starting height are privilto eged enough to give a crap about proportions or head size or some bull ? I honestly just want to be tall and functioning that's enough for me.
But i just would like to look normal, I don't wanna see other people saying me that you have odd long legs after 10 cm on both segments but it is impossible unfortunately...
Maybe doing mock ups would be best thing. Anyone knows how to do mock up? I did in Microsoft but it is not good enough
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The people on here who think you can spread apart your limbs by a full goddamn 5-6 inches and keep a normal gait and be healthy for the rest of your life are DELUSIONAL. And will cause a lot of problems for other people and themselves
You moron,tell me who is wanting here to lengthen 5/6 inches
for segment,tell me one
Only in old forum there was this situation and all of us know how it ended up,so now we have all conservative targets
Those guys were talking about doing 4/5 inches meaning that the want to lengthen both femur and tibias,doing so it is a realistic target.Assume max 2 inches on tibias and 2/3 on femurs
And why are you here ? Always crying how bad and terrible LL is.We all know that it isn't easy,so do your LL or go back playing with your Iron Man puppet
Because of people like him that this forum is becoming useless
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You moron,tell me who is wanting here to lengthen 5/6 inches
for segment,tell me one
Only in old forum there was this situation and all of us know how it ended up,so now we have all conservative targets
Those guys were talking about doing 4/5 inches meaning that the want to lengthen both femur and tibias,doing so it is a realistic target.Assume max 2 inches on tibias and 2/3 on femurs
And why are you here ? Always crying how bad and terrible LL is.We all know that it isn't easy,so do your LL or go back playing with your Iron Man puppet
Because of people like him that this forum is becoming useless
Someone deleted his useless comment. LOL😁
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You moron,tell me who is wanting here to lengthen 5/6 inches
for segment,tell me one
Only in old forum there was this situation and all of us know how it ended up,so now we have all conservative targets
Those guys were talking about doing 4/5 inches meaning that the want to lengthen both femur and tibias,doing so it is a realistic target.Assume max 2 inches on tibias and 2/3 on femurs
And why are you here ? Always crying how bad and terrible LL is.We all know that it isn't easy,so do your LL or go back playing with your Iron Man puppet
Because of people like him that this forum is becoming useless
Body Builder and plenty of people. There is even a goddamn person in this thread wanting to go from 5’4 to 5’9. Also I was exaggerating, but still 4, 5, 6 all bad. Anything over 3 probably disastrous long term.
Also useless? You’re the fking moron. I’m the first person in this forum to bring skepticism to this place in a long time. I’m trying to talk about proportions, lengthening amounts, and the reality of all of LL in general.
What, do you want all of us to go on and on about how height is everything and how 3 inches will turn your life upside down and get men to bow and women to bend over? Are you mad that this is what you believe and that I’m the only one here challenging it?
You’re the fking useless one, wanting LL at 5’10. Here’s the truth: you’re an ugly and insecure guy and you found yourself here because of that. No good looking or even or even average 5’10 guy would ever find an LL forum much less sign up and consider the surgery himself. You think being 6’1 will change your life but it won’t, I also know plenty of ugly guys 5’11, 6 and even 6’2 who are still ugly and insecure and still aren’t content with themselves or their lives.
This obviously angers you deeply because you know it to be true, and that’s why you’re getting mad even though I am doing nothing but sharing healthy knowledge and skepticism with this community, doing nothing but try and help us all make better decisions.
There wasn’t even anything in this thread relative to you, but you just had to attack me because you know the things I’ve told you before are true, thats how badly these truths burn you deep down inside. You probably spend your nights awake in bed thinking about my forum posts seething with rage and anger that I am shattering your illusions, but don’t be mad, it is healthier to have a realistic view of this world than to fail in your own delusions.
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Someone deleted his useless comment. LOL😁
No one deleted anything.
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Check this thread (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=3111.0) and see it for yourself.
I've never seen a guy with a tall dad (6'1~6'2, 185~188cm) get to 183cm (6 feet) with a 160cm mother. It'd be like she wasn't factored into the equation at all. I think you'd need at least a 167cm (5'6) mother.
However, I'm not from the US. I know there is a stupid 6 feet culture there. All the guys probably lie about it and maybe you don't know what that height actually looks like.
In Europe it's 1m80 in the USA it's 6ft
but it looks so unbearable in the USA
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@CaptainAmerica Brah why are you being so rude? Of course you would know ugly tall people cause you hangout with these losers. Don't you know the average of some countries is fking 183 cm. It's as if you yourself are insecure and scared to do more than 2 inches of CLL and started pushing your opinions on other people.
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@CaptainAmerica Brah why are you being so rude? Of course you would know ugly tall people cause you hangout with these losers. Don't you know the average of some countries is fking 183 cm. It's as if you yourself are insecure and scared to do more than 2 inches of CLL and started pushing your opinions on other people.
except Netherlands where official average is 182 cm (actually it's 2m50 according to Reddit) there is nowhere where 6ft is average
and 182 cm isn't exactly 6ft
and I don't believe that dinaric alps average while croatian average is about 5-10
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@CaptainAmerica Brah why are you being so rude? Of course you would know ugly tall people cause you hangout with these losers. Don't you know the average of some countries is fking 183 cm. It's as if you yourself are insecure and scared to do more than 2 inches of CLL and started pushing your opinions on other people.
Yes I’m rightfully scared of doing more than 2 inches of LL because I don’t want to look like a freak like APO and be in a wheelchair at 35.
Lol at saying I hang out with losers. Nice guess, I know happy successful people at 6’3 6’4 as well but people here seem to think that their lives will be turned around by going from 5’10 to 6’. It doesn’t work like that. Good looks and social status are far more important for respect from men and attention from women, that’s the reality, height is 20% of the equation and even less after 5’9.
Since you personally insulted me I’ll insult you as well. You’re 5’4. That’s game over. You will look comical no matter how much LL you get because of your small body frame. So do what you want and get 5 inches. You also sound low IQ and like 15 years old so I don’t think you’ll ever figure out how to earn enough money or get this surgery in the first place. Good luck!
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Yeah I also find it hard to believe the average could be 6ft, the highest it could be 5'11 in those Scandinavian countries.
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No one deleted anything.
But I don't see your previous comment
Hmm okay, there is also something that I would like to say
Do you know the feeling of being 162? I know.. You don't have any hope to be taller or average. You are just going to be short again after 10 cm when you are 162. I wish my starting height was 165 or 168 so that 6 -7 cm on one segment would be enough for me. I know it will be running my proportions after 10 cm lengthening but there is nothing to do. I know if I do 6 cm on femur or tibia I still will be depressed about my height.
In terms of my plan, I didn't mean I will be doing both segments at the same time. I am just thinking about 6cm femur this summer and 4 cm tibia after 3_4 years. (also arm lengthening can be option). I know it is easier than done, it is very risky, it can cause me to lost my ability to walk again, but what can I do?
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Yeah I also find it hard to believe the average could be 6ft, the highest it could be 5'11 in those Scandinavian countries.
Stats for Scandinavia are not over 5-11. Most likely 178 / 179 cm which make them taller than south europeans by some centimeters. But the "tall scandinavians" is rather a myth.
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@CaptainAmerica Talk about butthurt, dude you sound like a kid. What are you the fking Jesus of CLL. Is your words the gospel?? Unlike you that has been in this forum for 2 years and still hadn't had CLL I had already saved money for the operation. Please get a life dude why do you even hangout out here?? LOL I think i need atleast 5000IQ to comprehend what your goal is staying here.
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@CaptainAmerica Talk about butthurt, dude you sound like a kid. What are you the fking Jesus of CLL. Is your words the gospel?? Unlike you that has been in this forum for 2 years and still hadn't had CLL I had already saved money for the operation. Please get a life dude why do you even hangout out here?? LOL I think i need atleast 5000IQ to comprehend what your goal is staying here.
I’m saving up the money I needed for Paley, and I also only joined this place when I was 17. Surprisingly because of my genius IQ I nearly have $130,000 already just now at the age of 20. But I’m sure that is nowhere near as good as the $15,000 you’ve scrounged together to go get it done in India :), I could do that as well right now, but I realize the gravity of this surgery, and I also realize that this surgery probably won’t have as big of an effect on my life as I think, so better to get it done in the safest and healthiest way as possible, than to be not only disappointed but also immobilized or being tortured in India.
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This obviously angers you deeply because you know it to be true, and that’s why you’re getting mad even though I am doing nothing but sharing healthy knowledge and skepticism with this community, doing nothing but try and help us all make better decisions.
There wasn’t even anything in this thread relative to you, but you just had to attack me because you know the things I’ve told you before are true, thats how badly these truths burn you deep down inside. You probably spend your nights awake in bed thinking about my forum posts seething with rage and anger that I am shattering your illusions, but don’t be mad, it is healthier to have a realistic view of this world than to fail in your own delusions.
Jesus what a psychopath, assume much?? You sound like those Incels that can't get laid and always talk about how high IQ and Looks you will need to get laid LOL.
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I’m saving up the money I needed for Paley, and I also only joined this place when I was 17. Surprisingly because of my genius IQ I nearly have $130,000 already just now at the age of 20. But I’m sure that is nowhere near as good as the $15,000 you’ve scrounged together to go get it done in India :), I could do that as well right now, but I realize the gravity of this surgery, and I also realize that this surgery probably won’t have as big of an effect on my life as I think, so better to get it done in the safest and healthiest way as possible, than to be not only disappointed but also immobilized or being tortured in India.
Please do not disparage other members and countries. We are all friends, brothers, sisters here please do not bring animosity.
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And I appreciate the Christ-like comparison, I do think that's pretty accurate, I am the Jesus Christ of LL, I am the savior here to save manlets from a lifetime of medical problems and BDD and staring in the mirror and afraid of taking photos with other people or afraid of wearing clothes because of how their body is proportioned. And just like Jesus Christ, you all want to crucify me for sharing this information.
If I can get at least one manlet to change his mind from doing 5 or 6 inches and instead maybe doing 3 and living a healthier life and looking more proportioned, then my gospel will be well heard and all worth it. The last thing I want is another person having year-long complications, feeling pain when they walk, being in a wheelchair, etc.. all over 1-2 inches of height that wouldn't have made that much of a difference anyway.
Obviously if everything was fine dandy and healthy I would be advocating for 5, 6, 7, 8 inches. But that's just not the reality. You have to take what you've got from life, be thankful that LL even exists, and then optimize for aesthetics and health.
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I have attacked you because of the trashy and false post that you have made and other users are agreeing with me
You're so coward that you have also deleted the post
I don't care about what are you saying on me as I don't judge people that I don't know
If you are an incel for me it's ok but if you're a liar then no,Bodybuilder has never said that doing 5 inches in on segment is a good idea.No one has ever said that,atleast here on the new forum
Also your starting topic is useless since one guy could do 6 cms on femurs and be fine
We know that "safe limits" are indicative and all depends on how does your body handle LL:some had troubles doing 3 cms on tibias and some did 5/6 cms being fine
However you're useless and toxic so this is my last answer here
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I’m saving up the money I needed for Paley, and I also only joined this place when I was 17. Surprisingly because of my genius IQ I nearly have $130,000 already just now at the age of 20. But I’m sure that is nowhere near as good as the $15,000 you’ve scrounged together to go get it done in India :), I could do that as well right now, but I realize the gravity of this surgery, and I also realize that this surgery probably won’t have as big of an effect on my life as I think, so better to get it done in the safest and healthiest way as possible, than to be not only disappointed but also immobilized or being tortured in India.
Again you assume?? Dude I would get it done with Paley or Guitchet cause I am doing fking 5 inches dude, 5 inches!! Not a measly 2 inch and waste that much money. Whatever you genius psychopath just don't assume and be rude to other members in this public forum.
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http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=4614.0
I go for 14 -15 cm. Check out my mock ups. They look fine.
As for my reason. Well, my starting height is super short, not just short. After two LL's only I will be at the border of short/average.
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5 inches is about 12 cm ?
it's simply impossible to do 5 inches in one segment
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http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=4614.0
I go for 14 -15 cm. Check out my mock ups. They look fine.
I have seen your post before and you really look good. I think main thing to get rid of bad proportions is to build up muscles before or after LL. I don't mean one should be bodybuilder in short frame but building up muscles like you can help. By the way, which program did u use for such a great mock up?
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Body Builder and plenty of people. There is even a goddamn person in this thread wanting to go from 5’4 to 5’9. Also I was exaggerating, but still 4, 5, 6 all bad. Anything over 3 probably disastrous long term.
Also useless? You’re the fking moron. I’m the first person in this forum to bring skepticism to this place in a long time. I’m trying to talk about proportions, lengthening amounts, and the reality of all of LL in general.
What, do you want all of us to go on and on about how height is everything and how 3 inches will turn your life upside down and get men to bow and women to bend over? Are you mad that this is what you believe and that I’m the only one here challenging it?
You’re the fking useless one, wanting LL at 5’10. Here’s the truth: you’re an ugly and insecure guy and you found yourself here because of that. No good looking or even or even average 5’10 guy would ever find an LL forum much less sign up and consider the surgery himself. You think being 6’1 will change your life but it won’t, I also know plenty of ugly guys 5’11, 6 and even 6’2 who are still ugly and insecure and still aren’t content with themselves or their lives.
This obviously angers you deeply because you know it to be true, and that’s why you’re getting mad even though I am doing nothing but sharing healthy knowledge and skepticism with this community, doing nothing but try and help us all make better decisions.
There wasn’t even anything in this thread relative to you, but you just had to attack me because you know the things I’ve told you before are true, thats how badly these truths burn you deep down inside. You probably spend your nights awake in bed thinking about my forum posts seething with rage and anger that I am shattering your illusions, but don’t be mad, it is healthier to have a realistic view of this world than to fail in your own delusions.
im 179 cm
and 95% of the guys in my family around my age are above 183 cm
thus, i have always been insecure about my height, because i feel very short around my family and have always been called short in my family. So it is all relative bro. I also was very good defensive end in football. lead my division 1 school in sacks and did not get a single scholarship from a D1 college because of my height. my younger brother who is 6'2 is playing college football in a division 1 school...
of course i have no plan of doing this surgery and trying to play football lmao. But these are the types of reasons i have been very insecure about my height.
and there have been multiple studies done where if you are over 6', you get paid more, you get more respect from your peers, you are more likely to win a job interview, etc.
and i have no insecurities about my looks. i have a pretty gf who is in the medical field (PA school) and i believe i am above average in attractiveness.
So no need to target someone when you dont know their situation and why they want LL.
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http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=4614.0
I go for 14 -15 cm. Check out my mock ups. They look fine.
As for my reason. Well, my starting height is super short, not just short. After two LL's only I will be at the border of short/average.
Do this same thing but with a photo of you standing next to other people. Your legs look very, very long with 14cm man. Also, you look better here because the photo is taken from a low angle.
I realize 156 is a hard height to start at, but I don't think going overboard is a good answer nor will it make your life that much better than lengthening a moderate amount either... This mentality of "well what do I have to lose anyway!" is pretty dangerous, but it is your life. Apo did more and is able to walk around fine, run not so well, but it is the things that you value in life.
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And I appreciate the Christ-like comparison, I do think that's pretty accurate, I am the Jesus Christ of LL, I am the savior here to save manlets from a lifetime of medical problems and BDD and staring in the mirror and afraid of taking photos with other people or afraid of wearing clothes because of how their body is proportioned. And just like Jesus Christ, you all want to crucify me for sharing this information.
If I can get at least one manlet to change his mind from doing 5 or 6 inches and instead maybe doing 3 and living a healthier life and looking more proportioned, then my gospel will be well heard and all worth it. The last thing I want is another person having year-long complications, feeling pain when they walk, being in a wheelchair, etc.. all over 1-2 inches of height that wouldn't have made that much of a difference anyway.
Obviously if everything was fine dandy and healthy I would be advocating for 5, 6, 7, 8 inches. But that's just not the reality. You have to take what you've got from life, be thankful that LL even exists, and then optimize for aesthetics and health.
while i believe your intentions are good, you are approaching this situation in a hostile manner. That is why you are receiving hate.
i also believe no body should lengthen more than 3 inches. 3 inches should be max for many reasons, but there are better ways to put it
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im 179 cm
and 95% of the guys in my family around my age are above 183 cm
thus, i have always been insecure about my height, because i feel very short around my family and have always been called short in my family. So it is all relative bro. I also was very good defensive end in football. lead my division 1 school in sacks and did not get a single scholarship from a D1 college because of my height. my younger brother who is 6'2 is playing college football in a division 1 school...
of course i have no plan of doing this surgery and trying to play football lmao. But these are the types of reasons i have been very insecure about my height.
and there have been multiple studies done where if you are over 6', you get paid more, you get more respect from your peers, you are more likely to win a job interview, etc.
and i have no insecurities about my looks. i have a pretty gf who is in the medical field (PA school) and i believe i am above average in attractiveness.
So no need to target someone when you dont know their situation and why they want LL.
after LL it's clearly one of the worst sport to do (in my opinion)
and they is no difference of salaries between a 5-11 and a 6ft guy, you won't get more respect either. That could be the case between a 5-8 and a 6ft guy
most tall (more than average at least) people who want to do LL are from the USA, it's kind of funny because US average is less than european average
there is no dutch people, it's funny from a country where it should be even worse to live for a underaverage guy
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I have seen your post before and you really look good. I think main thing to get rid of bad proportions is to build up muscles before or after LL. I don't mean one should be bodybuilder in short frame but building up muscles like you can help. By the way, which program did u use for such a great mock up?
I used paint. I cut the image where the legs where by selecting that area and pulling it away by xxx pixle (7 cm). Then I selected one half if the splited image and streched it so both images pieces would be connected again. The streching of a selected area in paint works really well for mock ups.
For comparison reasons I don't have proper images with other people next to me, or images I would want to put on the internet. But I can trell you that my cam was standing at at least 1 meter height and about 5 meter distance. It's not from a low angle.
Also @ CaptainAmerica, I don't know about your height or the height of other people, but everyone experiences life in a different way, especially with height. I don't think you can relate to some people enough to know how they feel. I'm someone who does not think about his height for the most time of my life. Why would I even, there is nothing wrong 'with me'. And I don't even get to hear anything from others about my height, not even girls have ever mentioned my height, even with my height (Maybe it's so obvious that there is no reason for people to point it out. I might hear more after the operations, that's what I think). And I still think it's worth doing it just because I can. It's mostly for myself (the side effects of being perceived differently is a nice side effect for sure). I just find the thought of doing it interesting enough to go for it. It's comparable to a 'superhuman ability'. Why would I not want to try it out?
And I'm also convinced that I will heal up to 95-99% (If I only lenghten while the body responds positively). There is a reason why something like a placebo effect exists. Because the body does perform better or worse depending on the psyche of a person. The physical body, the healing power, and the immune system is connected to someone's real convinced and subconscious thoughts. If people expect to heal only a bit, how can they expect more than that? They are literally forcing their body to stop healing after they reached their expectations. They need higher expectations to heal better. (So for a pessimist, I can understand why they would not want to do LL. They would perform badly by being a pessimist according to what I explained before.) For that same reason people become sick depending on their mental state. You guys know that everyone has cancer and the immune system is constantly fighting it. It also is a process. What society labels as cancer is when your body lost the fight with the cancer that is always there to some degree, and the cancer is likely to finish from there. Even from that point you can have a comeback. So you need to realize how much of the unsuccessful operations happen due to the person having the operation. This is why you see mentally stable people perform better.
Of course the operation itself needs to be a success. After that, the rest is up to me.
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Height is an advantage but it's not the be-all and end-all.
I'm fine with tall people (5'10 and up) wanting to be taller, but I fully believe just getting out of "short" territory is the main benefit that CLL can bring. Also, killing your height neurosis.
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Since you personally insulted me I’ll insult you as well. You’re 5’4. That’s game over. You will look comical no matter how much LL you get because of your small body frame. So do what you want and get 5 inches. You also sound low IQ and like 15 years old so I don’t think you’ll ever figure out how to earn enough money or get this surgery in the first place. Good luck!
You guys all need to stop, since personal attacks are against the rules.
I think that height shaming is specially bad, though, and you need to avoid it. It's a such a low blow to attack someone for their height in a CLL forum. The worst instance I saw of this here was a 6 feet guy mocking others for their luck compared to his.
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im 179 cm
and 95% of the guys in my family around my age are above 183 cm
thus, i have always been insecure about my height, because i feel very short around my family and have always been called short in my family. So it is all relative bro. I also was very good defensive end in football. lead my division 1 school in sacks and did not get a single scholarship from a D1 college because of my height. my younger brother who is 6'2 is playing college football in a division 1 school...
of course i have no plan of doing this surgery and trying to play football lmao. But these are the types of reasons i have been very insecure about my height.
and there have been multiple studies done where if you are over 6', you get paid more, you get more respect from your peers, you are more likely to win a job interview, etc.
and i have no insecurities about my looks. i have a pretty gf who is in the medical field (PA school) and i believe i am above average in attractiveness.
So no need to target someone when you dont know their situation and why they want LL.
I personally think 179 cm is more than good height and LL might not be necessary, but I can understand your point and do not question you reason, we all are free to use this opportunity and live our lives as we wish.
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Height is an advantage but it's not the be-all and end-all.
I'm fine with tall people (5'10 and up) wanting to be taller, but I fully believe just getting out of "short" territory is the main benefit that CLL can bring. Also, killing your height neurosis.
but you know everybody is 6-7
that's my case too, most of my uncles (4 uncles) are 6/6-2 (that's what they claim, I don't know exactly maybe a bit less than their claim for some of them) and I'm not insecure. I don't feel short next to them as my shoulders are at the same level than their shoulders (for those at 6ft). 2 of them are white, 1 is black, another one is mixed
and I know they are tall, so no reason to be insecure
thanks to them I can be sure that average is far from 6ft or even 5-11
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but you know everybody is 6-7
that's my case too, most of my uncles (4 uncles) are 6/6-2 (that's what they claim, I don't know exactly) and I'm not insecure. I don't feel short next to them as my shoulders are at the same level than their shoulders (for those at 6ft). 2 of them are white, 1 is black, another one is mixed
and I know they are tall, so no reason to be insecure
thanks to them I can be sure that average is far from 6ft or even 5-11
Have you tried measuring yourself again? I think you're taller than 170.5cm. But you're right. The difference in height between two persons only gets massive after 13cm.
I've seen people who did LL from 5'7 to 5'10 mention how surprised they were at how close people of their former height seemed to them. Because we only experience life through our eye level, height differences seem bigger than they really are to others.
I used paint. I cut the image where the legs where by selecting that area and pulling it away by xxx pixle (7 cm). Then I selected one half if the splited image and streched it so both images pieces would be connected again. The streching of a selected area in paint works really well for mock ups.
For comparison reasons I don't have proper images with other people next to me, or images I would want to put on the internet. But I can trell you that my cam was standing at at least 1 meter height and about 5 meter distance. It's not from a low angle.
Also @ CaptainAmerica, I don't know about your height or the height of other people, but everyone experiences life in a different way, especially with height. I don't think you can relate to some people enough to know how they feel. I'm someone who does not think about his height for the most time of my life. Why would I even, there is nothing wrong 'with me'. And I don't even get to hear anything from others about my height, not even girls have ever mentioned my height, even with my height (Maybe it's so obvious that there is no reason for people to point it out. I might hear more after the operations, that's what I think). And I still think it's worth doing it just because I can. It's mostly for myself (the side effects of being perceived differently is a nice side effect for sure). I just find the thought of doing it interesting enough to go for it. It's comparable to a 'superhuman ability'. Why would I not want to try it out?
And I'm also convinced that I will heal up to 95-99% (If I only lenghten while the body responds positively). There is a reason why something like a placebo effect exists. Because the body does perform better or worse depending on the psyche of a person. The physical body, the healing power, and the immune system is connected to someone's real convinced and subconscious thoughts. If people expect to heal only a bit, how can they expect more than that? They are literally forcing their body to stop healing after they reached their expectations. They need higher expectations to heal better. (So for a pessimist, I can understand why they would not want to do LL. They would perform badly by being a pessimist according to what I explained before.) For that same reason people become sick depending on their mental state. You guys know that everyone has cancer and the immune system is constantly fighting it. It also is a process. What society labels as cancer is when your body lost the fight with the cancer that is always there to some degree, and the cancer is likely to finish from there. Even from that point you can have a comeback. So you need to realize how much of the unsuccessful operations happen due to the person having the operation. This is why you see mentally stable people perform better.
Of course the operation itself needs to be a success. After that, the rest is up to me.
Hey, LLPrime, if you don't mind the personal question: how are you expecting your life to change after LL?
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Have you tried measuring yourself again? I think you're taller than 170.5cm. But you're right. The difference in height between two persons only gets massive after 13cm.
I've seen people who did LL from 5'7 to 5'10 mention how surprised they were at how close people of their former height seemed to them. Because we only experience life through our eye level, height differences seem bigger than they really are to others.
Let's say 5-7 range, whatever it can be something between 170 and 172
my eye level clearly is at 160 cm
I made the same method at 23h30 by using something on my head and using a tape is showed me 171 cm
so 5-10 wasn't a big difference according to them ?
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Let's say 5-7 range, whatever it can be something between 170 and 172
my eye level clearly is at 160 cm
so 5-10 wasn't a big difference according to them ?
Here's a post. (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=99.msg26141#msg26141)
Also, here's a 170cm man standing next to a 180cm man (Jon Stewart and Colbert).
https://youtu.be/phaDyPNnIKg?t=1m45s
I don't care about American politics. This was just the easiest example to link.
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This is the difference between someone who is 5'8 and 5'10.
(https://www.celebheights.com/sr/a/alexander-vlahos.jpg)
This someone who is 6ft, you can see even though Rob is 5'8 his shoulders don't look THAT much lower than his.
(https://www.celebheights.com/sr/a/anthony-head.jpg)
This is when the height difference starts to get real, this guy is 6'3, a full 7 inches taller. This is when it starts to look real.
(https://www.celebheights.com/sr/r/rupert-young-mugshot.jpg)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp6hOCZddSI
you made me try again, exactly with that method and I found a good 171 cm again
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Here's a post. (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=99.msg26141#msg26141)
Also, here's a 170cm man standing next to a 180cm man (Jon Stewart and Colbert).
https://youtu.be/phaDyPNnIKg?t=1m45s
I don't care about American politics. This was just the easiest example to link.
I'm usually suspicious about self claim
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This is the difference between someone who is 5'8 and 5'10.
(https://www.celebheights.com/sr/a/alexander-vlahos.jpg)
This someone who is 6ft, you can see even though Rob is 5'8 his shoulders don't look THAT much lower than his.
(https://www.celebheights.com/sr/a/anthony-head.jpg)
This is when the height difference starts to get real, this guy is 6'3, a full 7 inches taller. This is when it starts to look real.
about two eyes level, I would probably find it quite important
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Let's say 5-7 range, whatever it can be something between 170 and 172
my eye level clearly is at 160 cm
I made the same method at 23h30 by using something on my head and using a tape is showed me 171 cm
so 5-10 wasn't a big difference according to them ?
I also have the impression you're a 173cm at a minimum and just measuring yourself wrong. But I don't know you, so... This is the second time you mention you measured yourself, so I'll take your word for it.
EDIT: Third time now. I made this post late. Point definitely taken. But maybe you still should measure your max height during the morning and your minimum before bed.
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Jon Stewart is one of the tallest 5'7 guys I've ever seen, seriously, I always assumed he was at least 5'10, 5'11. I think some people just have "taller" looking faces that are longer looking and make us think someone is taller than they really are. Same thing with, Danny Trejo, he is only 5'6!!! Wtf?? With that face and skull shape of his I seriously thought he would be much taller.
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I looked at your link myloginacct, that would explain why tall guys feel average sometimes
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Jon Stewart is one of the tallest 5'7 guys I've ever seen, seriously, I always assumed he was at least 5'10, 5'11. I think some people just have "taller" looking faces that are longer looking and make us think someone is taller than they really are. Same thing with, Danny Trejo, he is only 5'6!!! Wtf?? With that face and skull shape of his I seriously thought he would be much taller.
Danny Trejo never looked tall.
Usually the best exemple of 5-11/6ft tall guy is Lil Peep. He was thin, that gived him a tall impression. Since he is dead and get famous all website listed him at 6-2 while his friend Bexley said he was 5-11/6ft
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@myloginacct Is there any point in morning height? Since it only lasts for 30 mins after waking up. In my opinion a person's real height should be the one that stays static like the evening height.
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@myloginacct Is there any point in morning height? Since it only lasts for 30 mins after waking up. In my opinion a person's real height should be the one that stays static like the evening height.
Yes, you are taller at morning because of lumbar discs
measure yourself right after waking up, you will be 1-2 cm taller
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Yes, you are taller at morning because of lumbar discs
measure yourself right after waking up, you will be 1-2 cm taller
I know but it doesn't last very long now does it? Maybe for an hour or two. So shouldn't our real height be the evening one?
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@myloginacct Is there any point in morning height? Since it only lasts for 30 mins after waking up. In my opinion a person's real height should be the one that stays static like the evening height.
It's good for feeling better about yourself. :)
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I know but it doesn't last very long now does it? Maybe for an hour or two. So shouldn't our real height be the evening one?
doesn't matter, that's also your height
in fact you don't have a strict height
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Alright it makes sense, too bad it's temporary and for a short duration. I would have preferred the morning height stayed till midnight.
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but you know everybody is 6-7
that's my case too, most of my uncles (4 uncles) are 6/6-2 (that's what they claim, I don't know exactly maybe a bit less than their claim for some of them) and I'm not insecure. I don't feel short next to them as my shoulders are at the same level than their shoulders (for those at 6ft). 2 of them are white, 1 is black, another one is mixed
and I know they are tall, so no reason to be insecure
thanks to them I can be sure that average is far from 6ft or even 5-11
And it's weird. 180cm+ guys sometimes feel huge to me. Sometimes not. It seems to depend on how distant I am from them, but not in the way you'd expect. They look bigger when they're farther away.
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This is the difference between someone who is 5'8 and 5'10.
(https://www.celebheights.com/sr/a/alexander-vlahos.jpg)
This someone who is 6ft, you can see even though Rob is 5'8 his shoulders don't look THAT much lower than his.
(https://www.celebheights.com/sr/a/anthony-head.jpg)
This is when the height difference starts to get real, this guy is 6'3, a full 7 inches taller. This is when it starts to look real.
(https://www.celebheights.com/sr/r/rupert-young-mugshot.jpg)
That proves why someone wants to lengthen more than 5cm. Because they are not that much.
To be honest, 5cm make a good difference to some heights, epsecially when you are a little beyond average and you become a little above (1.75 to 1.80). But 7cm make a good difference and I can see it between me now and a friend of my previous height.
We have 7cm difference and trust me, I look much taller than him.
Anything less than 5cm makes LL to not worth it and for me, 7cm is the golden border between safeness and making you seeing way different than before.
For proportions 2 cm (5 to 7) make no real difference at all so what matters for me is safeness and a big difference between before and after LL.
And 6.5 to 7.5 cm are the golden ratio.
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That proves why someone wants to lengthen more than 5cm. Because they are not that much.
To be honest, 5cm make a good difference to some heights, epsecially when you are a little beyond average and you become a little above (1.75 to 1.80). But 7cm make a good difference and I can see it between me now and a friend of my previous height.
We have 7cm difference and trust me, I look much taller than him.
Anything less than 5cm makes LL to not worth it and for me, 7cm is the golden border between safeness and making you seeing way different than before.
For proportions 2 cm (5 to 7) make no real difference at all so what matters for me is safeness and a big difference between before and after LL.
And 6.5 to 7.5 cm are the golden ratio.
Hey bodybuilder, how much lengthening are u planning for second LL. And don't you think that you will look so disproportionatal after second LL as everyone here says total 10 cm ( 6cm femur and 4 cm tibia) will make me so disproportionatal
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problem with 2 segments is always arm length and in some cases head and general size
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problem with 2 segments is always arm length and in some cases head and general size
I'd rather be thought of as having short arms than just short, personally.
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Let's say the one who increased by 10 cm decided to do arm lengthening. I think head size wouldn't be that much problem.
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I'd rather be thought of as having short arms than just short, personally.
Agreed. Reminds me of this thread (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=1913.msg31664) which show pictures of tall people with relatively short arms. Never even occurred to me that Conan or Darvish had relatively short arms and yet they're very famous, so you'd think people would notice, but nope (just us eagle-eyed height fanatics). And the sitting height comparison photo drives the point that proportions matter less than we think.
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I am solidly fixed on Paley's Option 5 which can gain me 16CM in total cuz I am only fraggy 162cm at night and standing at this height is equivalent to having Leukemia in incurable phase the reason why I must go for Option 5 is very self-explanatory.
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Don't forget to tell that comparison and your psychotic feeling also to Paley. If he hasn't yet, he will certainly finally answer your messaje...of course.
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I am solidly fixed on Paley's Option 5 which can gain me 16CM in total cuz I am only fraggy 162cm at night and standing at this height is equivalent to having Leukemia in incurable phase the reason why I must go for Option 5 is very self-explanatory.
It's obvious that you are just bluffing. Of course you would do the Paley option 5 if you can afford it, but you can't afford it. You have no money or job to pay over $300k (including logistics and living expenses) for it. You are not rich, just a psychotic near midget who would never be able to get a decent job (or any job). You don't even know how to deal with the visa and passport issues, so you come to this anonymous website on limb lengthening and ask stupid questions about visas to people who despise your psychotic hopelessness.
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It's obvious that you are just bluffing. Of course you would do the Paley option 5 if you can afford it, but you can't afford it. You have no money or job to pay over $300k (including logistics and living expenses) for it. You are not rich, just a psychotic near midget who would never be able to get a decent job (or any job). You don't even know how to deal with the visa and passport issues, so you come to this anonymous website on limb lengthening and ask stupid questions about visas to people who despise your psychotic hopelessness.
I am not interested in fighting against any troller.
The reason why I am still not doing Option 5 is I am still studying in college as a junior college student and I can't ask for several-month or even one/two-year surgery leave not to mention that surgery is cosmetic. I don't know the exact situations in your country but my college is all just like this, plus other reasons like COVID-19. So you are mentally juvenile aren't you? Thinking everything is as easy as you are thinking? LOL
I am not in the mood to troll back. If you can talk me in decent courtesy, then I will be glad to continue communications with you. If you can't then let's just say goodbye. It's of no use fighting with each other online wasting our own times.
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It's obvious that you are just bluffing. Of course you would do the Paley option 5 if you can afford it, but you can't afford it. You have no money or job to pay over $300k (including logistics and living expenses) for it. You are not rich, just a psychotic near midget who would never be able to get a decent job (or any job). You don't even know how to deal with the visa and passport issues, so you come to this anonymous website on limb lengthening and ask stupid questions about visas to people who despise your psychotic hopelessness.
He's going to be looking at closer to $400,000. He is 162cm wanting to be 178cm, he will need to budget for arm lengthening as well.
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He's going to be looking at closer to $400,000. He is 162cm wanting to be 178cm, he will need to budget for arm lengthening as well.
I don't think I need AL. IMO that is just a waste of money.
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I don't think I need AL. IMO that is just a waste of money.
What is your wingspan and sitting height?
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What is your wingspan and sitting height?
I dunno but my arms can go over my crotch.
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Father is 168 cm while mother is 160 cm, the thing is all the relatives on my father's side are midgets that are less than 175 cm while on my mom's side they are greater than 175 cm. Damn these cursed manlet genes.
Alright you should not condemn your father side genes not to inherit tall genes to make you a tall guy.
Cuz in some cases the opposite will also happen like father is 150 mother is 140 and son is 170-175cm.
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I dunno but my arms can go over my crotch.
How can you spend so much time on this forum and obsessing about your height but not even know your wingspan or sitting height? Are you deliberately not measuring due to fear of them being short also?
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How can you spend so much time on this forum and obsessing about your height but not even know your wingspan or sitting height? Are you deliberately not measuring due to fear of them being short also?
No. Cuz I think there is no points measuring them. I don't care about being disproportional at all.