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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: Kal el on February 15, 2021, 12:12:48 AM

Title: Bow legs and limb lenthening
Post by: Kal el on February 15, 2021, 12:12:48 AM
Hey guys was just wondering how much height can we get by fixing slight (being able to insert nearly 3 fingers between knees when standing straight and both feet closed) bow legs..and does that height increase count towards the so called normal lengthening limit....due to my bow legs my walk is also kinda funny my friends mentioned it a few times..and when atanding stright for full body pics my feet rest in a position pointing outwards from my body (bow leg gait and feet positioning)....if anyone has corrected their bow legs or knows abt it plz share ur thoughts in here..thank u.
Title: Re: Bow legs and limb lenthening
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on February 15, 2021, 12:22:33 AM
Yes, you can get bowed legs corrected with LL techniques.  The amount that can be corrected by internals is less than externals.  The amount of height gained from straightening depends on how bowed your legs are.  A doctor could calculate it in an examination.

I also had outward facing feet which were corrected during my LL procedure.  All they have to do is, when the leg is broken, twist everything below the break.
Title: Re: Bow legs and limb lenthening
Post by: precice strider on February 15, 2021, 01:41:06 AM
You can get it corrected in the same surgery.

If you get it with Dr. Mahboubian, you might get some of it covered by insurance and end up paying less for the surgery.
With Dr. Paley, it'll run you $50k on top of your original procedure.
Title: Re: Bow legs and limb lenthening
Post by: permanentlybanned on February 15, 2021, 09:27:30 AM
For bowlegs as minor as yours I'd expect no more than 0.2cm gained.

If you're referring to whether this counts towards original bone length able to be gained percentage %, no it doesn't, it's not bone generated or tissues stretched, but don't worry too much about that anyways. It's a rough estimate for a varying range of human differences. It's not like 15% of bone length is always safe but 16% will result in cripple, no no haha
Title: Re: Bow legs and limb lenthening
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 15, 2021, 10:22:02 AM
You can get it corrected in the same surgery.

If you get it with Dr. Mahboubian, you might get some of it covered by insurance and end up paying less for the surgery.
With Dr. Paley, it'll run you $50k on top of your original procedure.

Straight up robbery mate. The reason I have never even considered Paley. 50K to correct bow legs? Might as well bring some vaseline with you to the examination.
Title: Re: Bow legs and limb lenthening
Post by: chipsnsalsa on February 15, 2021, 12:29:47 PM
I am thinking the same as you, Kal el. I've attached a pic of my legs, as you can see with my feet together the knees are apart. What is the opinion of the learned members of the forum, do you think it is worth fixing (and get 4cm extra height too)? I am fairly active, enjoy the gym and have been getting knee pain lately which I think might be due to increased pressure on knees while squatting because of varus.

Is it possible to have varus corrected during internal or only external? I am leaning toward fully external because I don't want a nail hammered through my knees.

Edit: the board wouldn't let me upload the pic so here it is on imgur:  https://imgur.com/a/081ITM2
Title: Re: Bow legs and limb lenthening
Post by: permanentlybanned on February 15, 2021, 12:46:01 PM
I am thinking the same as you, Kal el. I've attached a pic of my legs, as you can see with my feet together the knees are apart. What is the opinion of the learned members of the forum, do you think it is worth fixing (and get 4cm extra height too)? I am fairly active, enjoy the gym and have been getting knee pain lately which I think might be due to increased pressure on knees while squatting because of varus.

Is it possible to have varus corrected during internal or only external? I am leaning toward fully external because I don't want a nail hammered through my knees.

Edit: the board wouldn't let me upload the pic so here it is on imgur:  https://imgur.com/a/081ITM2

You can do a fully internal correction but it will just be an a small osteotemy with a plate with bunch of screws and this is for mild valgus. No lengthening as the plate is not for lengthening. No height gain via typical distraction. Though you may get 0.3 cm from legs being straighter, almost negligible. This is internal by name, not an internal nail.


You can also do external and lengthen while correcting valgus. Downside is that 4cm is going to be around 6 months or more in frames

Internal nail is not possible to fix this. However, you can do LATN (lengthening and then nailing), which they add a nail after correcting your stuff and deformities which let's you get out of frames sooner
Title: Re: Bow legs and limb lenthening
Post by: HeightGain on February 15, 2021, 12:48:34 PM
Get a long leg scan to determine where the weight bearing line sits through the knee
Title: Re: Bow legs and limb lenthening
Post by: Kal el on February 15, 2021, 02:16:18 PM
Yes my bow legs are exactly like you..so guys wht do u think..how much height can we get by fixing this amount of bow legs.
Title: Re: Bow legs and limb lenthening
Post by: HeightGain on February 15, 2021, 03:05:27 PM
Less than 5mm
Title: Re: Bow legs and limb lenthening
Post by: chipsnsalsa on February 15, 2021, 07:43:37 PM
Kal el, the height gain from just correction will be negligible. But they cut the bone and attach frames for correction, so my thinking is we might as well have a few cm added during the process. I've been in touch with Barinov's assistant and she said simultaneous correction and lengthening by external method can be done, for the same price as just lengthening.

If we add 4 cm, there will probably be an extra 0.5cm with the straightening, and complications such as ballerina are unlikely with this amount of lengthening. That would probably require a 7 month stay in Russia (I'd rather go full external to avoid the nail, as one of the reasons for this is to prevent knee pain)