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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: fivetenneeded2016 on February 18, 2021, 11:06:20 PM

Title: nail bending- monorail, retrograde vs precise/antegrade
Post by: fivetenneeded2016 on February 18, 2021, 11:06:20 PM
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The bend could be coz of multiple reasons:

1. nail being not too rigid- plasticity
2. its a monorail
3. retorgrade nailing? the femurs and the tibias have a slight curve close to the knee. therefore driving the nail along a curve path bending the inital alignment itself. I have seen such issues on inistal distraction to as much as large distractions.


I havent seen a precise 2 or stryde bend, I have seen few other nails bend even on antegrade femur insertion.

How much of a factor could retrograde nailing or doing LON with monorails contribute to the bending?
Title: Re: nail bending- monorail, retrograde vs precise/antegrade
Post by: AimHigh on February 19, 2021, 01:09:20 AM
My precise nail 2.2 bent about 5 degrees, right at the junction of the small/larger transition mid nail,  i wieghed 60kg at the time, then nail was extended ~ 8cm - this required immediate replacement with a solid rod.
Title: Re: nail bending- monorail, retrograde vs precise/antegrade
Post by: fivetenneeded2016 on February 19, 2021, 01:16:56 AM
Now i strongly feel most of the bending happen in retrograde or internal tibias. Although no medical literature that I could find on that.

May this could be opposed if we have had an antegrade femur nailing that has curved. Do we?
Title: Re: nail bending- monorail, retrograde vs precise/antegrade
Post by: Kal el on February 19, 2021, 02:23:39 AM
Ok....but first of all someone plz make me understand the technicality of this antegrade and retrograde thing🤔
Title: Re: nail bending- monorail, retrograde vs precise/antegrade
Post by: permanentlybanned on February 19, 2021, 03:13:04 AM
Ok....but first of all someone plz make me understand the technicality of this antegrade and retrograde thing🤔

Antegrade femur = insert through the hip (top of femur)

Retrograde femur = insert from knee area (bottom of femur)
Title: Re: nail bending- monorail, retrograde vs precise/antegrade
Post by: Kal el on February 19, 2021, 03:28:24 AM
Got it..thank u ghk2021