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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: - on March 16, 2021, 03:23:34 AM

Title: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: - on March 16, 2021, 03:23:34 AM
I know it's just a theory so far, but it's been discussed before. But basically, the idea is that since LL creates new bone/soft tissue, the metabolic rate increased. Your body will have to work harder to fulfill the necessary energy and blood flow requirements to keep the tissue alive.

If that was true, then I think the correct attitude to have about it is by treating this surgery like smoking. People know smoking is very harmful to the body, yet still do it. They don't mind paying the price.

What are your thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: KiloKAHN on March 16, 2021, 04:10:44 AM
I dont think 2 inches in the legs is much in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: maximize on March 16, 2021, 04:25:00 AM
I dont think 2 inches in the legs is much in the grand scheme of things.

Yeah negligible effect. It's just your tiny extra bit of bone and mostly your thigh muscles just stretch a bit.

The real issue with long term problems from LL even in cases where everything goes well would be if your mechanical axis gets thrown off. Then you might get faster knee arthritis and possibly hip/ankle. But if the surgeon gives you a good axis, and you adapt to the different limb length, there should be no long term negative effect.
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: 2020hope on March 16, 2021, 05:20:02 AM
Yeah negligible effect. It's just your tiny extra bit of bone and mostly your thigh muscles just stretch a bit.

Stretch or grow?
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: - on March 17, 2021, 01:59:31 AM
I dont think 2 inches in the legs is much in the grand scheme of things.

I guess we'll never know now. What doesn't seem like much in the short-term, might be in the long-term. But I like to assume the worst scenario possible. I mean your body isn't really designed to facilitate the extra height obtained from LL.
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: Sambollio on March 17, 2021, 02:13:28 AM
I actually would bet that if it’s curing an intense stressor (I.e. height dysphoria) it could actually increase longevity. Chronic stress is extremely taxing on the body.
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: - on March 17, 2021, 05:43:59 AM
I actually would bet that if it’s curing an intense stressor (I.e. height dysphoria) it could actually increase longevity. Chronic stress is extremely taxing on the body.

That's a legit theory.
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: Astronomy on March 19, 2021, 11:36:29 PM
For most patients,it's for all what it's worth
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: Bantem on March 20, 2021, 10:01:39 PM
This is to be expected, shorter people generally live longer than taller people
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: tallmen on March 21, 2021, 11:14:52 AM
This is to be expected, shorter people generally live longer than taller people

They don't live at all bro.
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: Astronomy on March 21, 2021, 12:02:20 PM
They don't live at all bro.
IMO most of short people don't think longer lifespan can benefit 'em at all but torture their minds.
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: 10cmOnTibiaOrGTFO on March 21, 2021, 12:53:26 PM
IMO most of short people don't think longer lifespan can benefit 'em at all but torture their minds.

nah, only you think that but thats because you are mentally ill
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on March 21, 2021, 03:55:38 PM
No more than working out and gaining a few pounds of muscle would. 8)
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: - on March 22, 2021, 03:04:10 PM
No more than working out and gaining a few pounds of muscle would. 8)

Are you saying that working out and gaining muscles would also reduce life expectancy? Why do you think so? From what I understand working out is supposed to make your body healthier.
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on March 22, 2021, 03:10:47 PM
You talked about metabolic requirements and blood flow shortening one's life.  How would increased muscle through strength training be different than muscle gained from LL?
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: Polvorón on April 01, 2021, 12:12:07 AM
IMHO, the reduced life expectancy could be explained* by a different social life due the height.

*There is a certain gen that makes you shorter and increases your life:
https://technology.inquirer.net/58691/short-men-tend-live-longer-due-longevity-gene-study
But stature and lifespan is determined by a lot of genes.
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: RealLostSoul on April 01, 2021, 12:20:38 AM
IMHO, the reduced life expectancy could be explained* by a different social life due the height.

*There is a certain gen that makes you shorter and increases your life:
https://technology.inquirer.net/58691/short-men-tend-live-longer-due-longevity-gene-study
But stature and lifespan is determined by a lot of genes.

Interesting inclination but your genes don‘t change at all with LL. I think the sample size of those who have done CLL and are in the range of normal decease is simply way to small. You are implying people that do CLL become more outgoing and social and thus decrease their collective longevity by doing more dangerous things and/or drugs (eg smoking)? That‘s interesting and might be a confounding bias actually.
Title: Re: Reduced life expectancy due to LL
Post by: Polvorón on April 01, 2021, 04:21:57 PM
Interesting inclination but your genes don‘t change at all with LL. I think the sample size of those who have done CLL and are in the range of normal decease is simply way to small. You are implying people that do CLL become more outgoing and social and thus decrease their collective longevity by doing more dangerous things and/or drugs (eg smoking)? That‘s interesting and might be a confounding bias actually.
I mean taller people (LL or childhood grown), they could have more social life and maybe they can have worse habits than shorter people.

Of course, genes doesn't change.
But there is a certain one that make people live longer, but they make them shorter, despite of this, I don't believe that being taller makes you live significantly less.