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Community Hangout => Off Topic => Topic started by: GrowTow on April 05, 2021, 06:24:13 PM

Title: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: GrowTow on April 05, 2021, 06:24:13 PM
Why aren't moderators doing more to expose fake diaries?

IP Address is tracked on each login and post, I've never seen a moderator expose a fake diary or anything when there has definitely been many, it's always up to us ourselves to find out whether a post is legitimate or not.

Can any moderator shed light on this? If I have to do it myself then make me the moderator, I'll do it.

If IP address isn't enough to track fakes then I'm sure this website can request more info through cookies etc.
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: KiloKAHN on April 05, 2021, 06:43:57 PM
Mods can't see IP addresses. That wasn't given to us as a feature by the site admin.
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: Serilium on April 05, 2021, 06:58:14 PM
Where is the site owner I want him to come back
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on April 05, 2021, 07:06:24 PM
There's no way of knowing if someone from a given IP address is really getting LL or not.  If we demanded photos, personal information, medical documentation, etc. in order to allow diaries, but most people wouldn't post at all.  LLers value anonymity.
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: more on April 05, 2021, 07:08:10 PM
Why aren't moderators doing more to expose fake diaries?

IP Address is tracked on each login and post, I've never seen a moderator expose a fake diary or anything when there has definitely been many, it's always up to us ourselves to find out whether a post is legitimate or not.

Can any moderator shed light on this? If I have to do it myself then make me the moderator, I'll do it.

If IP address isn't enough to track fakes then I'm sure this website can request more info through cookies etc.
Good point
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: Sambollio on April 05, 2021, 09:51:58 PM
What are some recent fake diaries? Are they working for the doctor who did their “surgery “?
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on April 06, 2021, 05:31:56 AM
What are some recent fake diaries? Are they working for the doctor who did their “surgery “?

Nobody has proof as far as I know, just suspicion and accusations.

Show me proof and I'll absolutely delete the diary and ban the user.
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on April 06, 2021, 05:36:57 AM
Where is the site owner I want him to come back

He was worried power would corrupt him like it did every other past LL forum owner.  He was a cool poster but I'm glad he did it for the sake of the forum.

He's never coming back except to occasionally do something only he can do for the site.
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: Serilium on April 06, 2021, 06:02:30 AM
He was worried power would corrupt him like it did every other past LL forum owner.  He was a cool poster but I'm glad he did it for the sake of the forum.

He's never coming back except to occasionally do something only he can do for the site.

Thanks
He is a good person
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: Serilium on April 06, 2021, 06:05:10 AM
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=66159.msg187653#msg187653

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64805.msg171611#msg171611

Same ghost writer

Tone identical, same doc
"I'm not in pain, I'm not taking painkillers, I'm not in pain"
Followed by smiley face emoji
😀

I left only one comment on emirasaf diary saying ghost writer and then the alt accounts start responding 😂 http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=66159.msg190835#msg190835
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: sportiveshort on April 06, 2021, 09:08:21 AM
Damn you are right. That looks suspicious.
One way of filtering would be checking multiple accounts posting from the same IP, or IP range.
Then they would need to get a VPN or move a lot.
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: GrowTow on April 06, 2021, 02:08:39 PM
Mods can't see IP addresses. That wasn't given to us as a feature by the site admin.

You must have someway of contacting the admin, even if he replies late, it's something that should have been brought up a long time ago. Enabling moderators to see an IP Address wouldn't be a difficult thing to do nor would it be difficult to have better security to authenticate users. I'm not saying add finger printer logins or anything but a simple location tracking feature which 99% of websites do anyways wouldn't be excessive.

This entire forum is flooded with fakes and occasional spam, the moderators doing nothing about it is not a good look for the website or the 'community'.

Sorry to be a Karen but this is about people's lives and doing these simple things would be the difference between someone becoming paralysed or losing tens of thousand and having a successful surgery.
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: GrowTow on April 06, 2021, 02:12:26 PM
There's no way of knowing if someone from a given IP address is really getting LL or not.  If we demanded photos, personal information, medical documentation, etc. in order to allow diaries, but most people wouldn't post at all.  LLers value anonymity.

Of course there's no way of knowing whether they're doing LL or not but if IP Addresses match between different users then it would be an obvious fake. That was my point. Anonymity isn't the issue.
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: GrowTow on April 06, 2021, 02:24:14 PM
What are some recent fake diaries? Are they working for the doctor who did their “surgery “?

Yes most of the time it's someone in the Dr's team making fake diaries to gain trust etc
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on April 06, 2021, 02:39:01 PM
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=66159.msg187653#msg187653

http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=64805.msg171611#msg171611

Same ghost writer

Tone identical, same doc
"I'm not in pain, I'm not taking painkillers, I'm not in pain"
Followed by smiley face emoji
😀

I left only one comment on emirasaf diary saying ghost writer and then the alt accounts start responding 😂 http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=66159.msg190835#msg190835

Yeah that does look pretty suspicious, and an IP match would be the nail in the coffin.

Point well taken.  I'll see what I can do.
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: GrowTow on May 09, 2021, 12:36:30 PM
Any update on this?
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on May 09, 2021, 01:42:25 PM
Nope.  :'(
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: RealLostSoul on May 09, 2021, 01:49:42 PM
Any way to check device bound logins? That would give similar informations to ip bound.

Btw who is the admin of this site?
Title: Re: Why aren't Moderators helping with fakes
Post by: th on May 09, 2021, 04:52:31 PM
Yes most of the time it's someone in the Dr's team making fake diaries to gain trust etc

any examples???