Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Height & Proportions => Topic started by: spark on May 21, 2021, 02:10:45 AM
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At 6'1 i dont really feel ok with my bodys proportions and i have a very long torso. My sitting height when i measured it before was 103cm approximately. Along with my long neck i feel more average than tall. Would 2-3 inches of lengthening ever be possible since my wingspan is only 6'1? Wont i look weird after? Sometimes i sit next to guys who are 6'5 and i sit taller than them which is crazy to me. I always noticed in school that i was so much higher in the seat than other kids and i didnt figure it out until later in life. Can someone photoshop me with longer legs or something please?
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https://imgur.com/a/BAtL6iw
Pictures with back, front and side view.
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Prob should see a shrink before you see a surgeon
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Prob should see a shrink before you see a surgeon
Already am but it aint really helping. They dont really objectively change my views or convince me that my views arent as absolute as i can make them to be. Its especially boring when their bluepilled normies sprouting brainwashed societal lines to me like "theres more to life than looks" and . Same old same bs, looks are absolute.
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Some therapists are sh*t. Hop around and try new ones out. It's like sampling. Some are dogcrap and poop but eventually one will fit and make you realize things you thought were never true in a million years.
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To be honest, it looks like you are showing off your body😂 You look good
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Have you decided which doc you will go with?
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To be honest, it looks like you are showing off your body😂 You look good
I havent worked out in months and i dont eat food idk what ur talking about. Shorter legs really are killing me
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Have you decided which doc you will go with?
Im focusing on making money first, i want to have an abundance of good options if im doing this for real. Theres some good ones in Greece where live as far as i know.
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I havent worked out in months and i dont eat food idk what ur talking about. Shorter legs really are killing me
I meant that you look like a normal guy (not fat, not skinny and above average). The short legs in the photo probably make you look shorter visually than you really are. But I am sure that in the right clothes you will look better and taller. Even among male models, there are men with short legs. They just wear high-rise pants.
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To be honest, it looks like you are showing off your body😂 You look good
his chest is a bit small. but his legs are kinda short compared to his torso. looks a bit off
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Whats ur crotch to floor distance(true inseam length)....and have u ever found anyone even taller than you while seated especially any girl?
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Workout and try your best to have wider shoulders and back.
Then your torso would look shorter but wider and bigger so you'll be more symmetrical.
You could do a lot to improve your body. LL is not one of these.
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his chest is a bit small. but his legs are kinda short compared to his torso. looks a bit off
replied to wrong person, chest naturally small and ye it does look off especially from side view
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I meant that you look like a normal guy (not fat, not skinny and above average). The short legs in the photo probably make you look shorter visually than you really are. But I am sure that in the right clothes you will look better and taller. Even among male models, there are men with short legs. They just wear high-rise pants.
i think thats just cope. Longer legged people still do all that you mentioned and look better.
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Whats ur crotch to floor distance(true inseam length)....and have u ever found anyone even taller than you while seated especially any girl?
79cms, my p***s is on the bigger side but even if it was smaller then around 79-81cms. Is there a chart anywhere?
I dont think i see girls taller than me when i sit but guys yeah ofcourse, but its rare. I notice it especially in a plane where i sit so much higher than literally almost everyone. If i sit trully correctly im taller than what you would expect a 6'1 guy to be while sitting.
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Workout and try your best to have wider shoulders and back.
Then your torso would look shorter but wider and bigger so you'll be more symmetrical.
You could do a lot to improve your body. LL is not one of these.
https://imgur.com/a/qtaS3KO
I do have widish shoulders im almost anorexic status in the first pics for whats my natural state when im actually eating food. Again working out i think its cope, my longer legged counterpart that worked out the same amount as me looks better 10 out of 10 times.
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u look good bruv. objectively. as others say should see therapist first. congrats on good genes. srs.
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u look good bruv. objectively. as others say should see therapist first. congrats on good genes. srs.
Thnx i suppose. My inseam height from right under crotch to floor is only 80cms. Isnt that crazy abnormal?
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nope, pretty normal actually.
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nope, pretty normal actually.
hmm from what ive seen thats a bit short or a lot short. i saw guys with 90+ of this values shorter than me.
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I wouldn’t lengthen unless you’re doing at least 5cm, and I personally think an ape index of -5cm or worse to look extremely bad, especially since you derive a lot of it in your shoulders and not arm length. You’d look pretty bad at any level of lengthening and you’re already tall. It’s a really easy “no” from me.
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I wouldn’t lengthen unless you’re doing at least 5cm, and I personally think an ape index of -5cm or worse to look extremely bad, especially since you derive a lot of it in your shoulders and not arm length. You’d look pretty bad at any level of lengthening and you’re already tall. It’s a really easy “no” from me.
damn that sucks to hear.
If im gonna have an ape index of -2.0" though that doesnt seem to bad to me considering all these basketball players have around the same index but ofcourse are taller and they still look human.
Players Height in Shoes Wingspan Ape Index
Kelly Olynyk 7' 0" 6' 10" -2.0"
Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk 6' 8" 6' 5" -3.0"
Frank Kaminsky 7' 1" 6' 11" -2.0"
Mason Plumlee 7' 0" 6' 11" -1.0"
Jon Scheyer 6' 6" 6' 3" -3.0"
JJ Redck 6' 5" 6' 3" -2.0"
Martynas Andriuškevičius 7' 3" 6' 11" -4.0"
Yao Ming 7' 6" 7' 5" -1.0"
Antonis Fotsis 6' 10" 6' 8.5" -1.5"
Dan Langhi 6' 10" 6' 8" -2.0"
Kevin Willis 7' 0" 6' 10" -2.0"
Cody Zeller 7' 0" 6' 11" -1.0"
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This guy has an ape index of -3" is 6ft6 tall and wingspan 6ft3
https://imgur.com/a/VKktqnn
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This guy has an ape index of -3" is 6ft6 tall and wingspan 6ft3
https://imgur.com/a/VKktqnn
He also has really narrow shoulders, you have broad shoulders. Wingspan doesn’t into account the breadth of the shoulders, so someone with a -3 index and shoulders 1-2 inches narrower than someone else with -3 and broad shoulders could look super normal. Going beyond -2 ape index only really looks good IMO on some basketball players because they all seem to have lanky (read: small for size) shoulders. Someone like Henry Cavill probably has -1 or -2 and he barely looks normal because it’s all in the shoulders.
I don’t get it man, you’ve built up a great body and you’re gonna atrophy it to go from 96th to 99th percentile height? Just wear insoles lol, I wear them to be 5’11 and I feel taller than 80-90% of people around me. If you were 5’10 or something I would say go for it but you’re already at the height of most James Bond actors
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He also has really narrow shoulders, you have broad shoulders. Wingspan doesn’t into account the breadth of the shoulders, so someone with a -3 index and shoulders 1-2 inches narrower than someone else with -3 and broad shoulders could look super normal. Going beyond -2 ape index only really looks good IMO on some basketball players because they all seem to have lanky (read: small for size) shoulders. Someone like Henry Cavill probably has -1 or -2 and he barely looks normal because it’s all in the shoulders.
I don’t get it man, you’ve built up a great body and you’re gonna atrophy it to go from 96th to 99th percentile height? Just wear insoles lol, I wear them to be 5’11 and I feel taller than 80-90% of people around me. If you were 5’10 or something I would say go for it but you’re already at the height of most James Bond actors
i see your point, then arm lengthening too since its way easier and safer. Personally i dont like insoles, infact i dont like athletic shoes that have a 1 inch sole. I want to feel that anything related to my height comes from me and only me, cause if i wear insoles and go to 6ft3 and stand next to a guy whos 6ft3, inside il know hes taller and im frauding. I hate frauding my self.
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i see your point, then arm lengthening too since its way easier and safer. Personally i dont like insoles, infact i dont like athletic shoes that have a 1 inch sole. I want to feel that anything related to my height comes from me and only me, cause if i wear insoles and go to 6ft3 and stand next to a guy whos 6ft3, inside il know hes taller and im frauding. I hate frauding my self.
Are you saying you want LL and arm lengthening. I don’t recommend doing both LL and arm lengthening.
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Are you saying you want LL and arm lengthening. I don’t recommend doing both LL and arm lengthening.
maybe one day. Probs only legs but will see.
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Btw do u really fit in a car with 103 sitting height.
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Btw do u really fit in a car with 103 sitting height.
Yeah but its weird, if i try and have perfect posture, shoulders back and neck back and forward i sit so high i feel weird, like a fake feeling of superiority in a sense but then my legs are normal sizedish and i get out of the car and im shorter than i look id be. I remember one time i was driving and next to me was a friends of mine whos 5ft9 and we both tried to have perfect posture as a joke and i sat so much higher than him we both burst into laughter, for context he has a short torso and long legs relative to his height.
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Lol I'm 5'9 and even I sometimes can't fit in a car (not trash ones, really wide and comfortable cars.)
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Lol I'm 5'9 and even I sometimes can't fit in a car (not trash ones, really wide and comfortable cars.)
Are you fat?
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You don’t have the shoulder width. Your frame is already small for your height I can tell by the first picture.
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No, I'm 5'9 and 65 kg. My ass has no fat. Only muscle.
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HobbitMan,
"Starting height: 175
Current Height: 176.5"
Have you been stretching, is that how you've gotten the extra cm?
Regards
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HobbitMan,
"Starting height: 175
Current Height: 176.5"
Have you been stretching, is that how you've gotten the extra cm?
Regards
I’m 15+mm into lengthening lol
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My bad lol. Cheers.
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You don’t have the shoulder width. Your frame is already small for your height I can tell by the first picture.
Hmm yeah i think its a bit small too, weirdly i get complimented on my wideness a lot, might be cause of the small waist though and im pushing my shoulders back in the second picture.
https://imgur.com/a/VtGB4y6
Ive been measured by a doctor and measured again with gym bros and my shoulder width always comes back at 47cm which i think is average.
But im pretty sure theres taller guys with way narrower shoulders like i see it irl with guys at 5ft5 with insane shoulder width etc
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This thread is literally madness.
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why
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This thread is literally madness.
why*
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It’s because you’re over a standard deviation over average height and claim to have height neurosis, when all the symptoms you’ve shown are body dysmorphia and BDD that have nothing to do with height. You talk almost entirely about dimensions other than your actual height and you haven’t mentioned a consultation with a surgeon despite a weeks-old thread. Most surgeons would setup a virtual consultation with you with at most a 1 week turnaround.
If you’re serious about this, go consult with a surgeon and talk these proportions issues out with them. It’s very cheap compared to the actual procedure, usually a few hundred dollars.
I think people will take you more seriously once you’ve at least consulted with a surgeon.
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It’s because you’re over a standard deviation over average height and claim to have height neurosis, when all the symptoms you’ve shown are body dysmorphia and BDD that have nothing to do with height. You talk almost entirely about dimensions other than your actual height and you haven’t mentioned a consultation with a surgeon despite a weeks-old thread. Most surgeons would setup a virtual consultation with you with at most a 1 week turnaround.
If you’re serious about this, go consult with a surgeon and talk these proportions issues out with them. It’s very cheap compared to the actual procedure, usually a few hundred dollars.
I think people will take you more seriously once you’ve at least consulted with a surgeon.
Yeah I don’t think going for this surgery just because you think you are not proportional at a height like 6’1 makes sense. But whatever it’s your body your decision. All of us here dream to be 6’1
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Please be grateful for being over six foot. I see that you're talking about it from a proportions point of view and not a height neurotic perspective. I'm doing the surgery to become your height and trust me I wouldn't do it if i were 6'1 already. Simple solution, wear your trousers higher up. Save yourself 50-100k. But ultimately do what you want...
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6'1 is still short in western europe. go for 6'5 you will be alpha 8)
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6'1 is still short in western europe. go for 6'5 you will be alpha 8)
In what universe is 6’1 short?
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In what universe is 6’1 short?
They are being sarcastic 6’1 is not a short height In most countries it’s a tall height
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They are being sarcastic 6’1 is not a short height In most countries it’s a tall height
In all countries. Even in the Netherlands you will be taller than 60-70% of native men in the youngest generation. You’ll be taller than 80% of people in the cities with internationals.
The only place it’s not tall is like 50 square kilometers in the dinaric alps where people grow to 6’1” on average. These are low population regions surrounded by cities with people with an average of 5’10 height. There’s also the Dinka tribe in South Sudan (famously represented by Manute Bol) who have a large number of very tall individuals. Excluding these two extreme examples that represent less than 0.01% of the world population, 6’1” is tall everywhere.
I feel guilty for taking the troll’s bait, but it’s important to reinforce that 6’1” is a VERY good height.
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In all countries. Even in the Netherlands you will be taller than 60-70% of native men in the youngest generation. You’ll be taller than 80% of people in the cities with internationals.
The only place it’s not tall is like 50 square kilometers in the dinaric alps where people grow to 6’1” on average. These are low population regions surrounded by cities with people with an average of 5’10 height. There’s also the Dinka tribe in South Sudan (famously represented by Manute Bol) who have a large number of very tall individuals. Excluding these two extreme examples that represent less than 0.01% of the world population, 6’1” is tall everywhere.
I feel guilty for taking the troll’s bait, but it’s important to reinforce that 6’1” is a VERY good height.
Yes 6’1 is a very good height. It’s a goal height for me
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Yes 6’1 is a very good height. It’s a goal height for me
6’2 for me would be a dream
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6’2 for me would be a dream
What’s your starting height 6’2 would be too much for me so I will settle for 6’1
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It’s because you’re over a standard deviation over average height and claim to have height neurosis, when all the symptoms you’ve shown are body dysmorphia and BDD that have nothing to do with height. You talk almost entirely about dimensions other than your actual height and you haven’t mentioned a consultation with a surgeon despite a weeks-old thread. Most surgeons would setup a virtual consultation with you with at most a 1 week turnaround.
If you’re serious about this, go consult with a surgeon and talk these proportions issues out with them. It’s very cheap compared to the actual procedure, usually a few hundred dollars.
I think people will take you more seriously once you’ve at least consulted with a surgeon.
I dont understand why ur going on for semantics. Im not ok with my proportions for my height thats it, so take it as you want but id like to be taller, also why would i pay hundreds of dollars for a consultation when i can get opinion hopefully objective from normal people, surgeons more often than not are not objective for and have their egos involved when you talk to them instead of being a non judgemental book of information. I dont care about your subjective opinion doctor im paying you for the knowledge you know. Ive already talked to some surgeons and they told anthropometric proportions vary greatly...so fking what like why am i supposed to just accept that. Besides 6ft1 is far from the ideal height for a man.
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Yeah I don’t think going for this surgery just because you think you are not proportional at a height like 6’1 makes sense. But whatever it’s your body your decision. All of us here dream to be 6’1
I would take 5ft7 with amazing proportions over 5ft9 extremely long torso and small limbs any day. But at the end of the day its subjective
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Please be grateful for being over six foot. I see that you're talking about it from a proportions point of view and not a height neurotic perspective. I'm doing the surgery to become your height and trust me I wouldn't do it if i were 6'1 already. Simple solution, wear your trousers higher up. Save yourself 50-100k. But ultimately do what you want...
I am grateful, but what does that mean you shouldnt improve if you can? Why do supermodels wear makeup when already their facial proportions and bone mass is incredible? Are they not grateful for what they have? Or they realize thats humans are in a competition with one another and the greater you look the better no matter what.
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6'1 is still short in western europe. go for 6'5 you will be alpha 8)
Pretty sure its average but i agree 6ft5 perfect height
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What’s your starting height 6’2 would be too much for me so I will settle for 6’1
I’m between 5’10.5 and 5’11 but my close friends are all over 6 foot. For me even just 6 foot would make me happy I just want to be free of neurosis tbh
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I am grateful, but what does that mean you shouldnt improve if you can? Why do supermodels wear makeup when already their facial proportions and bone mass is incredible? Are they not grateful for what they have? Or they realize thats humans are in a competition with one another and the greater you look the better no matter what.
But bro makeup is different to surgery and months of pain and therapy.
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You spend way too much on Instagram
Your morphology is tapered towards wrestling, swimming and lifting. You can literally body any person smaller than you with your proportions. In terms of pound for pound strength and lifting weights, your body is a god send. Stop being so dumb bro. A 6'1 person with the same torso length as a 5'5 person would have just as much the same potential upper body strength. Having longer legs makes you a better runner
Just lift, Being a long torso tall dude is the place to be
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I dont understand why ur going on for semantics. Im not ok with my proportions for my height thats it, so take it as you want but id like to be taller, also why would i pay hundreds of dollars for a consultation when i can get opinion hopefully objective from normal people, surgeons more often than not are not objective for and have their egos involved when you talk to them instead of being a non judgemental book of information. I dont care about your subjective opinion doctor im paying you for the knowledge you know. Ive already talked to some surgeons and they told anthropometric proportions vary greatly...so fking what like why am i supposed to just accept that. Besides 6ft1 is far from the ideal height for a man.
If 6’1 is “far from ideal height for a man” Then what is the ideal height for a man?
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Long torso doesn't look bad. It's something that does get noticed but not in a bad way. My roommate has proportions similar to yours, he's around (176 -178cm) and he did some good work on his shoulders and back. He's never had problems with dating even in a conservative region like South Asia. Of course, he does talk about his proportions sometimes because he was into sports but that's just about it. Take a look at Chris Hemsworth and his related google searches. There's stuff like "chris hemsworth long torso" etc. It's like a fetish. You could always work on broader shoulders.
Another way to think about your proportions now is that IF you get CLL, your proportions would definitely look better with longer legs.
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Long torso doesn't look bad. It's something that does get noticed but not in a bad way. My roommate has proportions similar to yours, he's around (176 -178cm) and he did some good work on his shoulders and back. He's never had problems with dating even in a conservative region like South Asia. Of course, he does talk about his proportions sometimes because he was into sports but that's just about it. Take a look at Chris Hemsworth and his related google searches. There's stuff like "chris hemsworth long torso" etc. It's like a fetish. You could always work on broader shoulders.
Another way to think about your proportions now is that IF you get CLL, your proportions would definitely look better with longer legs.
After looking carefully at his pics, he doesn't have an extremely long torso. Spark seems to be Caucasian, which means on average - the average white male have average sized torsos and long femurs. He doesn't have short legs, he has short tibias. Asians (Mongoloids) have long torsos with 1:1 leg ratios on average (Good for swimming and lifting see Michael Phelps) and Black males usually have long legs/wingspans with shorter torsos and very long tibias.
These are averages, you will find all of these variations between all groups of people, including long torsos and wingspans with short legs. (Good for climbing)
If you do CLL, do your tibias.
Red is 1/2
Green is bottom of Kneecap
https://imgur.com/a/LcVkKUr
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But bro makeup is different to surgery and months of pain and therapy.
you completely missed the point. We do thing to look better, pain is temporary beauty is forever. And by beauty i mean facial ratios and body ratios. No amount of surgeries will ever make Emma Radunak unnatractive ever, and with the same logic no amount of surgeries will make other female tennis players as attractive as Emma ever no matter what forever.
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You spend way too much on Instagram
Your morphology is tapered towards wrestling, swimming and lifting. You can literally body any person smaller than you with your proportions. In terms of pound for pound strength and lifting weights, your body is a god send. Stop being so dumb bro. A 6'1 person with the same torso length as a 5'5 person would have just as much the same potential upper body strength. Having longer legs makes you a better runner
Just lift, Being a long torso tall dude is the place to be
theres negatives and positives for both long legged short torso and tall torso short legged bodies. Athletisism is cope,what matters is looking good and being aesthetic. Lets say we have a 6ft4 bald indian guy with my proportions and a long midface and recessed jaws, sure he can be athletic and dominate other men in wrestling but who the fk cares about that. No amount of women or people in general will want to associate themselves with that person simply because he has an unnappealing face. Doesnt matter how much he can deadlift or squat, he will never change his facial proportions.
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If 6’1 is “far from ideal height for a man” Then what is the ideal height for a man?
Starting at 6ft3 is and perfect being 6ft4-6ft5 with longer than average legs and long wingspan preferably 6ft7-6ft9
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Long torso doesn't look bad. It's something that does get noticed but not in a bad way. My roommate has proportions similar to yours, he's around (176 -178cm) and he did some good work on his shoulders and back. He's never had problems with dating even in a conservative region like South Asia. Of course, he does talk about his proportions sometimes because he was into sports but that's just about it. Take a look at Chris Hemsworth and his related google searches. There's stuff like "chris hemsworth long torso" etc. It's like a fetish. You could always work on broader shoulders.
Another way to think about your proportions now is that IF you get CLL, your proportions would definitely look better with longer legs.
the only problem is my wingspan is 6ft1 which is the reason im making this thread, if i had 2-3 inches longer ws i wouldnt be here now.
I never asked about dating so strange you bring it up.
https://imgur.com/9uBwYBW
I do have an amazing body if i want to but again, proportions matter more than being muscular.
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After looking carefully at his pics, he doesn't have an extremely long torso. Spark seems to be Caucasian, which means on average - the average white male have average sized torsos and long femurs. He doesn't have short legs, he has short tibias. Asians (Mongoloids) have long torsos with 1:1 leg ratios on average (Good for swimming and lifting see Michael Phelps) and Black males usually have long legs/wingspans with shorter torsos and very long tibias.
These are averages, you will find all of these variations between all groups of people, including long torsos and wingspans with short legs. (Good for climbing)
If you do CLL, do your tibias.
Red is 1/2
Green is bottom of Kneecap
https://imgur.com/a/LcVkKUr
Thanx for the analysis, i agree my tibias are shorter compared to the rest of my body but i do think i have a longer torso,when i sit is a confirmation of that cause i sometimes sit higher than men who are 6ft4+
If i do surgery il do 5-6cm max.
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the only problem is my wingspan is 6ft1 which is the reason im making this thread, if i had 2-3 inches longer ws i wouldnt be here now.
I never asked about dating so strange you bring it up.
https://imgur.com/9uBwYBW
I do have an amazing body if i want to but again, proportions matter more than being muscular.
I get what you're saying but unless the subject is modelling there isn't much of a consideration for proportions amongst people. It's nothing body dysmorphia. If you're really into good proportions like the Vitruvian Man (Da Vinci), I reckon you sit down and take some time digging more into body proportions and then see if CLL/arm lengthening can help you achieve it (if that is what you want).
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theres negatives and positives for both long legged short torso and tall torso short legged bodies. Athletisism is cope,what matters is looking good and being aesthetic. Lets say we have a 6ft4 bald indian guy with my proportions and a long midface and recessed jaws, sure he can be athletic and dominate other men in wrestling but who the fk cares about that. No amount of women or people in general will want to associate themselves with that person simply because he has an unnappealing face. Doesnt matter how much he can deadlift or squat, he will never change his facial proportions.
I got to say it sounds like you have a really unhealthy outlook.
Why say a bald Indian guy, as if that is bad thing? Why say about midface? It might surprise you but there are some bald guys, even Indian guys, that are better looking than some white guys!
You didn't mention career or charisma.
6'5 as perfect height? Nobody in real life outside of forums thinks that
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I get what you're saying but unless the subject is modelling there isn't much of a consideration for proportions amongst people. It's nothing body dysmorphia. If you're really into good proportions like the Vitruvian Man (Da Vinci), I reckon you sit down and take some time digging more into body proportions and then see if CLL/arm lengthening can help you achieve it (if that is what you want).
"but unless the subject is modelling there isn't much of a consideration for proportions amongst people" this is where your massively wrong, you have no idea just how much proportions affect others people perception of one self especially with how the body harmonizes the face. A long torso short legs female will get treated waaaaay differently than if she had long legs and a short torso. Its especially apparent in women, hence why female models with long legs look astounding.
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I got to say it sounds like you have a really unhealthy outlook.
Why say a bald Indian guy, as if that is bad thing? Why say about midface? It might surprise you but there are some bald guys, even Indian guys, that are better looking than some white guys!
You didn't mention career or charisma.
6'5 as perfect height? Nobody in real life outside of forums thinks that
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wow we really are talking in different worlds right now. Calling my reality unhealthy without justifying why is a shaming tactic to assert frame in the conversation and set the tone of the judger rather than the one being judged. You talk like a woman but ofcourse what else can i expect from a clearly female gynocentrically conditioned male. I suggest you to read "The rational male" by Rollo Tomassi, read it slowly its a hard truth book that will change your life.
"Why say a bald Indian guy, as if that is bad thing?" Because its been proven in studies and researches that indian men are by far the least appealing race of men to women, documented anonymously by real women. Bald? Im not even gonna talk about that, any human on this planet who is bald if they had the chance to take a pill that would permanently regrow all their hair they would 10/10 times. Again proven in studies that balding or bald men are less appealing than their own selfs with hair.
"It might surprise you but there are some bald guys, even Indian guys, that are better looking than some white guys! " The exception doesnt make the rule, did you really think im assuming no indian men are more attractive than white guys? And to speak in your language a bit, why say white men?? whats so healthy about white men that you mention it comparetavely speaking in a higher morality state then indian men?
"You didn't mention career or charisma." LOL
Evidence women are much more superficial and give much more importance to physique than men.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mens-looks-matter-more-than-women-admit-study-shows_us_58ecf563e4b0ca64d91978be
https://www.livescience.com/58607-mens-looks-may-matter-more-than-personality.html
Manipulative, asympathetic, arrogant bullies have higher numbers of sexual partners and have sex more often.
http://www.wdish.com/life/bullies-sex-study
Bullies have more sex and higher self-esteem.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/women-really-dont-go-for-nice-guys-study-indicates/
Women really don’t like nice guys.
http://archive.is/e6p19
Unempathethic, narcissistic criminals are one of women’s first sexual choices.
https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf
Women find narcissist s more attractive.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26098378
Bro you are literally living life with your eyes closed. Sometimes i forget just how ignorant the majority of men are toward life, reality and truth.
"6'5 as perfect height? Nobody in real life outside of forums thinks that" Except when we analyze actual human behavior towards men who are 6ft5 tall and take apart their life experience it would vastly show otherwise. Too bored to find evidence or articles for this but TRUST ME you do not want to see how women really behave with 6ft5+men.
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Well it sounds like your height is bothering you more than I originally thought. So I apologize for being dismissive earlier. I think you’ll look great at 6’3” if you do tibias and you should recover well. I think it’s a shame you’re sacrificing your workout gains for this since you probably will lose them all, but if it will make you feel better I support it. You can always get them back with hard work. 5cm tibias would be ideal as you mentioned and should look natural.
Do you have any surgeons in mind? Are you going for internal or externals?
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Well it sounds like your height is bothering you more than I originally thought. So I apologize for being dismissive earlier. I think you’ll look great at 6’3” if you do tibias and you should recover well. I think it’s a shame you’re sacrificing your workout gains for this since you probably will lose them all, but if it will make you feel better I support it. You can always get them back with hard work. 5cm tibias would be ideal as you mentioned and should look natural.
Do you have any surgeons in mind? Are you going for internal or externals?
Yeah even before getting any opinions i thought tibias is the only possible option for looking natural. Gym gainz mean nothing to me, you can always work out later. Side note though i have a thing called congenital adrenal hyperplasia and genetically high Testosterone even besides my condition which makes me have extremely high T levels for a natural male. Aside from that with solid dieting it takes me 3 months to reach my peak physique no matter where i begin before. Ofcourse things will be different after surgery but people adapt, were hardwired to. And no im focusing on building my businesses currently, i spent way too much time researching social dynamics, human behaviour and morphology in my teens and i think the correct course of action is i should pay someone else who has already done the research for me. A high value human shouldnt waste his time doing something that he can acquire with money, ofcourse i wont just hire the first person i come across il filter them out accordingly. Same way how im paying a lovely Vietnamese lady a good amount of money per week to cook me meals and clean my apartment, best investment i did for my self this year by far. So much more time added to my daily expenditure.
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"but unless the subject is modelling there isn't much of a consideration for proportions amongst people" this is where your massively wrong, you have no idea just how much proportions affect others people perception of one self especially with how the body harmonizes the face. A long torso short legs female will get treated waaaaay differently than if she had long legs and a short torso. It's especially apparent in women, hence why female models with long legs look astounding.
I agree to some extent that proportions matter when it comes to women in modelling. The main factor is still height.
Elizabeth Turner is 5'10 - 5'11 but one look at her and you'll realize that she's not a ramp walk subject because of the absence of longer legs. That still doesn't take away how beautiful she looks and 9/10 people won't be judging her proportions when they look at her. Everybody else is a model on Instagram these days btw.
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wow we really are talking in different worlds right now. Calling my reality unhealthy without justifying why is a shaming tactic to assert frame in the conversation and set the tone of the judger rather than the one being judged. You talk like a woman but ofcourse what else can i expect from a clearly female gynocentrically conditioned male. I suggest you to read "The rational male" by Rollo Tomassi, read it slowly its a hard truth book that will change your life.
"Why say a bald Indian guy, as if that is bad thing?" Because its been proven in studies and researches that indian men are by far the least appealing race of men to women, documented anonymously by real women. Bald? Im not even gonna talk about that, any human on this planet who is bald if they had the chance to take a pill that would permanently regrow all their hair they would 10/10 times. Again proven in studies that balding or bald men are less appealing than their own selfs with hair.
"It might surprise you but there are some bald guys, even Indian guys, that are better looking than some white guys! " The exception doesnt make the rule, did you really think im assuming no indian men are more attractive than white guys? And to speak in your language a bit, why say white men?? whats so healthy about white men that you mention it comparetavely speaking in a higher morality state then indian men?
"You didn't mention career or charisma." LOL
Evidence women are much more superficial and give much more importance to physique than men.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mens-looks-matter-more-than-women-admit-study-shows_us_58ecf563e4b0ca64d91978be
https://www.livescience.com/58607-mens-looks-may-matter-more-than-personality.html
Manipulative, asympathetic, arrogant bullies have higher numbers of sxxual partners and have sxx more often.
http://www.wdish.com/life/bullies-sxx-study
Bullies have more sxx and higher self-esteem.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/women-really-dont-go-for-nice-guys-study-indicates/
Women really don’t like nice guys.
http://archive.is/e6p19
Unempathethic, narcissistic criminals are one of women’s first sxxual choices.
https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf
Women find narcissist s more attractive.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26098378
Bro you are literally living life with your eyes closed. Sometimes i forget just how ignorant the majority of men are toward life, reality and truth.
"6'5 as perfect height? Nobody in real life outside of forums thinks that" Except when we analyze actual human behavior towards men who are 6ft5 tall and take apart their life experience it would vastly show otherwise. Too bored to find evidence or articles for this but TRUST ME you do not want to see how women really behave with 6ft5+men.
Just keeping it here.
India is very very diverse and the surverys are very skewed and can never hold true unless they take a lot of things to account. The population here is so high that sample size is very small for such surveys. Forget about diversity inclusion. I'll give you one context. Iceland has around 300,000 - 400,000 native speakers. Odisha, a small lesser populated state in India has 35 million native speakers. Do you see the problem in the sample size? Most of the people that are on media are generally from north/south india. South Indian people have a darker skin tone and North Indian people have lighter skin tone. These are the two types of people you generally see on the television. 80% of Indians immigrating into other countries like the US/EU Canada are from South India because the literacy rate there is very very high. The North East indians are descendents of the mongolian race and hence are have dominant asian features. The country is much more diverse and complicated than you can imagine it to be.
Not arguing the fact that bald tall men are undesirable or ugly. At the end of the day you can be tall and proportional but still ugly and undesirable. Women/men can make considerations for either if they want to. I've seen it all.
Since you're tall you should be able to get more length if needed but hopefully 2' tibia can solve your problems. I agree on the part where you talked amount time vs money tradeoff but your issue is much more than that. Maybe take some time and talk with someone professional who can help decide your proportions? Cheers.
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Proportions for attractiveness doesn’t really matter that much. For example let’s take 2 6’1 men one of them has legs 3 inches longer than the other 6’1 man, but most girls won’t care about the proportions they will only care that your their preferred height which in this case is 6’1
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wow we really are talking in different worlds right now. Calling my reality unhealthy without justifying why is a shaming tactic to assert frame in the conversation and set the tone of the judger rather than the one being judged. You talk like a woman but ofcourse what else can i expect from a clearly female gynocentrically conditioned male. I suggest you to read "The rational male" by Rollo Tomassi, read it slowly its a hard truth book that will change your life.
"Why say a bald Indian guy, as if that is bad thing?" Because its been proven in studies and researches that indian men are by far the least appealing race of men to women, documented anonymously by real women. Bald? Im not even gonna talk about that, any human on this planet who is bald if they had the chance to take a pill that would permanently regrow all their hair they would 10/10 times. Again proven in studies that balding or bald men are less appealing than their own selfs with hair.
"It might surprise you but there are some bald guys, even Indian guys, that are better looking than some white guys! " The exception doesnt make the rule, did you really think im assuming no indian men are more attractive than white guys? And to speak in your language a bit, why say white men?? whats so healthy about white men that you mention it comparetavely speaking in a higher morality state then indian men?
"You didn't mention career or charisma." LOL
Evidence women are much more superficial and give much more importance to physique than men.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mens-looks-matter-more-than-women-admit-study-shows_us_58ecf563e4b0ca64d91978be
https://www.livescience.com/58607-mens-looks-may-matter-more-than-personality.html
Manipulative, asympathetic, arrogant bullies have higher numbers of sxxual partners and have sxx more often.
http://www.wdish.com/life/bullies-sxx-study
Bullies have more sxx and higher self-esteem.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/women-really-dont-go-for-nice-guys-study-indicates/
Women really don’t like nice guys.
http://archive.is/e6p19
Unempathethic, narcissistic criminals are one of women’s first sxxual choices.
https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf
Women find narcissist s more attractive.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26098378
Bro you are literally living life with your eyes closed. Sometimes i forget just how ignorant the majority of men are toward life, reality and truth.
"6'5 as perfect height? Nobody in real life outside of forums thinks that" Except when we analyze actual human behavior towards men who are 6ft5 tall and take apart their life experience it would vastly show otherwise. Too bored to find evidence or articles for this but TRUST ME you do not want to see how women really behave with 6ft5+men.
If you can't defend your position, attack.
Ok, it looks like you have an appreciation that journals exist. Not all journals are equal. If you work, or work in a scientific or medical disciplines you will know that low impact factor journals, like those you have posted, are not factored in when institutions or individuals apply for funding. The reason, because the content and scientific process is so poor that they are meaningless. Please post something from nature, NEJM...
I mentioned white because you're white. I take it from your career comment you don't have one? Is this the source of your hate or why you have looked for support from this toxic online narrative? There must be a reason as it makes no sense and is far removed from reality.
If you are struggling to get women at your height or thinking a few extra inches will help because of proportions or height, it won't. It might make you feel more confident but it won't directly help.
Either your job is not the best or you're other features such as personality or face are the issue, please focus on those at your height as you will get a far better return.
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OP this is one of the rare times I'd ever say that this is all in your head. You are well above average height and have excellent proportions. It is definitely not your body holding you back, if anything if you do LL you will be messing with your tibia/femur ratio and currently matching height/wingspan with no objective benefit.
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You have an incredible body. I'd do anything to have that body. I don't see your legs as short at all.
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I agree to some extent that proportions matter when it comes to women in modelling. The main factor is still height.
Elizabeth Turner is 5'10 - 5'11 but one look at her and you'll realize that she's not a ramp walk subject because of the absence of longer legs. That still doesn't take away how beautiful she looks and 9/10 people won't be judging her proportions when they look at her. Everybody else is a model on Instagram these days btw.
Her skeleton is easily 95%+ tier for females, her clavicles, shoulders, long slender bones, infact her legs are on the longish side...
"9/10 people won't be judging her proportions when they look at her" Literally every single human animal you have ever met or interacted with has subconciously made a decision about your proportions and the entirity of your body and face, your friends,your family even your mom. Everyone. If people proactively comment when someone like Shaq walks by them then the unintentional not commenting of you or simply put unreactive ignorance is still proof that people judge you. Just because no one is commenting on it doesnt mean no one is making decisions about it. People are hardwired to spent as little physical and mental energy needed to survive and go through their days. Most people do what they have always done when they see other people, they completely and utterly ignore their existense as it takes little to no energy to do so.
Elizabeth Turner is an extremely harmonious looking face and you are being haloed by her face too to think she is stunningly beautiful. She is without a doubt living in an absolutely different level of reality than most people on the planet because of her physical looks, not her personality or anything she has achieved.
If she was left homeless on the streets, people would react to her beauty instantly and would make proactive actions to associate her in their lives as to seem more high status themselves. In no universe would she spent even a day homeless before some beta loser told her to come live with her for the night.
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Just keeping it here.
India is very very diverse and the surverys are very skewed and can never hold true unless they take a lot of things to account. The population here is so high that sample size is very small for such surveys. Forget about diversity inclusion. I'll give you one context. Iceland has around 300,000 - 400,000 native speakers. Odisha, a small lesser populated state in India has 35 million native speakers. Do you see the problem in the sample size? Most of the people that are on media are generally from north/south india. South Indian people have a darker skin tone and North Indian people have lighter skin tone. These are the two types of people you generally see on the television. 80% of Indians immigrating into other countries like the US/EU Canada are from South India because the literacy rate there is very very high. The North East indians are descendents of the mongolian race and hence are have dominant asian features. The country is much more diverse and complicated than you can imagine it to be.
Not arguing the fact that bald tall men are undesirable or ugly. At the end of the day you can be tall and proportional but still ugly and undesirable. Women/men can make considerations for either if they want to. I've seen it all.
Since you're tall you should be able to get more length if needed but hopefully 2' tibia can solve your problems. I agree on the part where you talked amount time vs money tradeoff but your issue is much more than that. Maybe take some time and talk with someone professional who can help decide your proportions? Cheers.
Surveys are not enough to understand humans. YOU EITHER GET IT...OR YOU DONT. Proven in real life objective analysis that indians are seen as less humans by all humans including indians.
I wont say much but il say this. When a white woman goes to india all indian men want to take a picture with her, when an indian woman goes to a whitish country like the UK no amount of people react to her at all. She is simply completely ignored by society, if she disappeared from there no one would even notice. Her physical body doesnt cause reactions to people so people just give her the most basic treatment people know to give, ignore and get out of my life. Thats it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMesCH5seCU
Skip to 2:00, she is literally being treated like a high status celebrity because of her race, face and height. Even the indian women are looking at her with a gesture like they know she is above the,..in their own country, imagine...
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Proportions for attractiveness doesn’t really matter that much. For example let’s take 2 6’1 men one of them has legs 3 inches longer than the other 6’1 man, but most girls won’t care about the proportions they will only care that your their preferred height which in this case is 6’1
Well you showed 0 studies to prove this and you essentially talking out of your opinion, and im too bored to post studies and real life evidence but your wrong. There is a certain skeletical proportion that is 100% more attractive than the deviation from it. Also face matters waaaaaaay more, i didnt say body matters the most in fact its not. The body can only halo the face as good as the face is. If you have very good body proportions and a bad face it means nothing, you are still 0 because 0 times 7.5 is still 0.
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If you can't defend your position, attack.
Ok, it looks like you have an appreciation that journals exist. Not all journals are equal. If you work, or work in a scientific or medical disciplines you will know that low impact factor journals, like those you have posted, are not factored in when institutions or individuals apply for funding. The reason, because the content and scientific process is so poor that they are meaningless. Please post something from nature, NEJM...
I mentioned white because you're white. I take it from your career comment you don't have one? Is this the source of your hate or why you have looked for support from this toxic online narrative? There must be a reason as it makes no sense and is far removed from reality.
If you are struggling to get women at your height or thinking a few extra inches will help because of proportions or height, it won't. It might make you feel more confident but it won't directly help.
Either your job is not the best or you're other features such as personality or face are the issue, please focus on those at your height as you will get a far better return.
Defend? stop putting your self in the position of the one judging because it is clearly the other way around.
"I mentioned white because you're white." I am mediterranean not white.
" I take it from your career comment you don't have one?" literally on the verge of becoming a millioaire before the year ends, why do you think i made this post now and not earlier in my life like at 18?
"Is this the source of your hate or why you have looked for support from this toxic online narrative? There must be a reason as it makes no sense and is far removed from reality." I literally have no idea what your talking about, idk if your projecting all these stuff and i simply dont care. Address anything i posted in specifics, dont talk to me like you know me lmao.
"If you are struggling to get women at your height or thinking a few extra inches will help because of proportions or height, it won't. It might make you feel more confident but it won't directly help." Ok i have no idea where your pulling these stuff from, i have never mentioned me in dating or women but il go with it. NO IT WONT, its face first by a large margin, if anyone here thinks height increasing will improve drastically their life it wont. No amount of lenghthening will, your skull size is still the one predetermined by your height, increasing your tibias or femurs wont increase anything else on your skeleton.
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OP this is one of the rare times I'd ever say that this is all in your head. You are well above average height and have excellent proportions. It is definitely not your body holding you back, if anything if you do LL you will be messing with your tibia/femur ratio and currently matching height/wingspan with no objective benefit.
Ok let me make this clear, i am not struggling with anything in my life, simply i understand humans and how objective we are. If anything can increase the quality of how people react to you even by 1% you should do it. I do not have excellent proportions, far from it.
"you will be messing with your tibia/femur ratio and currently matching height/wingspan with no objective benefit." This is exactly why im asking for objective opinions, my wingspan is a problem and ratios il talk to a specialist about that, i dont think il be going off balance one bit though like that morron 'Apotheosis' who lengthened 20 cm.
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You have an incredible body. I'd do anything to have that body. I don't see your legs as short at all.
They are short compared to the full height of my skeleton. Just because someone body is superior to someone else doesnt mean they shouldnt be objective about it and maximize life quality. If someone is 5ft3 tall and doesnt like their height they shouldnt compare themselves to a midget and tell themeselves they should be grateful for what they have, they should go for it regardless. Comparing your self to lesser fortunate people to make your self appear in a higher value frame is a limiting belief i refuse to abide with.
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They are short compared to the full height of my skeleton. Just because someone body is superior to someone else doesnt mean they shouldnt be objective about it and maximize life quality. If someone is 5ft3 tall and doesnt like their height they shouldnt compare themselves to a midget and tell themeselves they should be grateful for what they have, they should go for it regardless. Comparing your self to lesser fortunate people to make your self appear in a higher value frame is a limiting belief i refuse to abide with.
then why the f post this thread for other's opinion, stop moaning and go do it, tbh 6'1 is not out of this world
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I think you need to get yourself some Asian friends or visit more of the world. Many Asian women are beautiful. To say that Asian women would be ignored in the UK is foolish and ignorant. Please communicate you views on race to the LL doctors when you see them, see how tolerant they are of these views when you are trying to get surgery from them.
Mediterranean is white caucasian.
Not a millionaire yet? You'll get there soon. Obviously don't know which currency you are referring to though.
You have a lot of hate and exaggerated views. I reiterate, please share these views with LL doctors if you ever go for a consult, they combined with your current height and you will fail the psych test on the spot
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Surveys are not enough to understand humans. YOU EITHER GET IT...OR YOU DONT. Proven in real life objective analysis that indians are seen as less humans by all humans including indians.
I wont say much but il say this. When a white woman goes to india all indian men want to take a picture with her, when an indian woman goes to a whitish country like the UK no amount of people react to her at all. She is simply completely ignored by society, if she disappeared from there no one would even notice. Her physical body doesnt cause reactions to people so people just give her the most basic treatment people know to give, ignore and get out of my life. Thats it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMesCH5seCU
Skip to 2:00, she is literally being treated like a high status celebrity because of her race, face and height. Even the indian women are looking at her with a gesture like they know she is above the,..in their own country, imagine...
Ok so now the context has changed to India and Indians ::). Cool, let me take a look at this.
"indians are seen as less humans by all humans including indians" there IS a lot of division amongst Indians for many different reasons but it's certainly not because of height or being 6'1 and disproportionate.
White people are always celebrated in Asian countries (except Russia) except for the fact India is not subtle about it. Why? 1 reason is overpopulation (think about drawbacks of overpopulation). Even black people stand out when they come to Asian countries.
This thread isn't even about your proportions anymore. I hope you realize that your experience is not the only reality that exists. You may dislike Indians and think they are beneath you which is cool, but not everybody thinks the same way. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but not every Indian is looking for bob and vegene or 6'5 bald unattractive IT specialist to validate your opinions.
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Her skeleton is easily 95%+ tier for females, her clavicles, shoulders, long slender bones, infact her legs are on the longish side...
"9/10 people won't be judging her proportions when they look at her" Literally every single human animal you have ever met or interacted with has subconciously made a decision about your proportions and the entirity of your body and face, your friends,your family even your mom. Everyone. If people proactively comment when someone like Shaq walks by them then the unintentional not commenting of you or simply put unreactive ignorance is still proof that people judge you. Just because no one is commenting on it doesnt mean no one is making decisions about it. People are hardwired to spent as little physical and mental energy needed to survive and go through their days. Most people do what they have always done when they see other people, they completely and utterly ignore their existense as it takes little to no energy to do so.
Elizabeth Turner is an extremely harmonious looking face and you are being haloed by her face too to think she is stunningly beautiful. She is without a doubt living in an absolutely different level of reality than most people on the planet because of her physical looks, not her personality or anything she has achieved.
If she was left homeless on the streets, people would react to her beauty instantly and would make proactive actions to associate her in their lives as to seem more high status themselves. In no universe would she spent even a day homeless before some beta loser told her to come live with her for the night.
You have contradicting statements everywhere lmao.
Every single person who deviates from the (localized) norm is given attention in a good or bad way.
It's like if somebody judges me because I'm 5'5, they'll judge me because I got CLL and spent thousands of $$ to get to 5'8. People's judgement should be the last thing I, you or anyone else should care about because the judgement never ends. Sheesh. If you cannot be happy with yourself, you will not be happy with anyone or anything else.
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At 6'1 i dont really feel ok with my bodys proportions and i have a very long torso. My sitting height when i measured it before was 103cm approximately. Along with my long neck i feel more average than tall. Would 2-3 inches of lengthening ever be possible since my wingspan is only 6'1? Wont i look weird after? Sometimes i sit next to guys who are 6'5 and i sit taller than them which is crazy to me. I always noticed in school that i was so much higher in the seat than other kids and i didnt figure it out until later in life. Can someone photoshop me with longer legs or something please?
Looks fine to me tbh, if you hadn't mentionned your torso was on the longer side I wouldn't have batted an eye.
Just stop focusing on it.
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then why the f post this thread for other's opinion, stop moaning and go do it, tbh 6'1 is not out of this world
Because clearly people just like me have told me about my wingspan and issues with that. who the fk is moaning if you dont wanna comment dont comment. I have a bigger issue with proportions but also want to be taller anw. 6'1 is a height you wouldnt complain about
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I think you need to get yourself some Asian friends or visit more of the world. Many Asian women are beautiful. To say that Asian women would be ignored in the UK is foolish and ignorant. Please communicate you views on race to the LL doctors when you see them, see how tolerant they are of these views when you are trying to get surgery from them.
Mediterranean is white caucasian.
Not a millionaire yet? You'll get there soon. Obviously don't know which currency you are referring to though.
You have a lot of hate and exaggerated views. I reiterate, please share these views with LL doctors if you ever go for a consult, they combined with your current height and you will fail the psych test on the spot
"I think you need to get yourself some Asian friends or visit more of the world. Many Asian women are beautiful. To say that Asian women would be ignored in the UK is foolish and ignorant" I said indian women not asian women, japanese women are not the same as indian women and you wouldve known that if you went to japan and india which i have. Bruh visit more of the world? where the fk do you think i internalized these opinions i have. Pls stop acting like you know who i am its embarassing.
"Please communicate you views on race to the LL doctors when you see them, see how tolerant they are of these views when you are trying to get surgery from them." Why the fk would i do that, doctors are humans not machines, doctors inflitrate their abundance of knowledge with their egos and make subjective decisions on whether they perform surgery or not. Like are you dumb? If you tell a doctor some about race he clearly wont be objective about it and filter their response of your LL request through that. Also your assuming were thinking of doctors the same exact way. Couldnt be further from the truth, how you view them is clearly not anywhere near close enough to how i view them.
"Mediterranean is white caucasian." Bro i cant even. Let me explain this to you, when an arab looking dark guy gets asked what race he is and he says white most people would think thats crazy, it doesnt matter what you are in the books but rather HOW YOU ACTUALLY LOOK. Just because an albino black guy is black in the books doesnt mean other random black guys in the hood wont gang up on him if he starts saying the n-word. You know why? BECAUSE HE LOOKS WHITE THATS WHY. The Mediterranean race in its external characters is a brown human variety, neither white nor negroid, but pure in its elements, that is to say not a product of the mixture of Whites with Negroes or negroid peoples.
"Not a millionaire yet? You'll get there soon. Obviously don't know which currency you are referring to though." Iranian rial
"You have a lot of hate and exaggerated views. I reiterate, please share these views with LL doctors if you ever go for a consult, they combined with your current height and you will fail the psych test on the spot" Do you really think il go in and tell a doctor anything that would hinder my ability to get surgery. Again we are not the same, stop assuming i think like you, if you proactively want to go to doctors and tell them whatever your thinking go ahead, its your free will to do so.
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Ok so now the context has changed to India and Indians ::). Cool, let me take a look at this.
"indians are seen as less humans by all humans including indians" there IS a lot of division amongst Indians for many different reasons but it's certainly not because of height or being 6'1 and disproportionate.
White people are always celebrated in Asian countries (except Russia) except for the fact India is not subtle about it. Why? 1 reason is overpopulation (think about drawbacks of overpopulation). Even black people stand out when they come to Asian countries.
This thread isn't even about your proportions anymore. I hope you realize that your experience is not the only reality that exists. You may dislike Indians and think they are beneath you which is cool, but not everybody thinks the same way. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but not every Indian is looking for bob and vegene or 6'5 bald unattractive IT specialist to validate your opinions.
"there IS a lot of division amongst Indians for many different reasons but it's certainly not because of height or being 6'1 and disproportionate." I have never said its because of height or proportions. They are treated different because of the FACE, the non existent contrast of their facial characteristics and skull morphology as well as skin color. I am making this point to show the very obvious fact that FACE matters and thus proportions matter as well. Im not gonna go deep in how one correlates to another cause that is way too deep for a forum like this and anw its not the place to talk about this.
"White people are always celebrated in Asian countries (except Russia) except for the fact India is not subtle about it. Why? 1 reason is overpopulation (think about drawbacks of overpopulation). Even black people stand out when they come to Asian countries." You just proved my point, Black people DO stand out when they go to asian countries but in a very very very bad way. And for the record i dont mean they stand out like white people in india or like the specific white model in the video. The amount of attention they receive is most often then not negative and 99 out of 100 times they are simply ignored with a negative outlook rather than interacting with them.
"You may dislike Indians and think they are beneath you which is cool, but not everybody thinks the same way." what? when did i say i personally dislike indians. I couldnt give less of a fk about races. I analyze human behaviour which i have proven in this same threat. And if not everybody thinks the same way i do then prove me otherwise. Show me examples where people are treating every single person in a social situation exactly the same, and not reacting differently based on height, face, race and frame. Have you literally ever been with a woman and she pulled out her tinder profile and started swiping. You clearly havent cause otherwise you wouldnt be saying stuff like 'not everybody thinks the same way.' I have experienced countless examples of women i fked opening up their tinder post nut to have some fun and it was always the same exact story with every single one, they swipe left on Ethnic guys not even a second after they see their face, i was sitting next to a japanese girl i was hooking up with once and for 25 minutes of swiping she swiped right on 0 ethnic guys and only swiped right on maybe 5-7 white GOOD LOOKING guys.
"I'm sorry to burst your bubble but not every Indian is looking for bob and vegene or 6'5 bald unattractive IT specialist to validate your opinions." why are you saying indian guys are looking for 'bob and vegene', i never said that.
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You have contradicting statements everywhere lmao.
Every single person who deviates from the (localized) norm is given attention in a good or bad way.
It's like if somebody judges me because I'm 5'5, they'll judge me because I got CLL and spent thousands of $$ to get to 5'8. People's judgement should be the last thing I, you or anyone else should care about because the judgement never ends. Sheesh. If you cannot be happy with yourself, you will not be happy with anyone or anything else.
"Every single person who deviates from the (localized) norm is given attention in a good or bad way." Dumbest sentence ive read this week. A 5ft1 bald indian janitor will in no way get an equal negative amount of attention as a 6ft4 white model in india will in positive attention. You are so unbelievably wrong about how real life works im actually astounded that you think for example japanese people actually give attention to ugly black guys in Japan.
"It's like if somebody judges me because I'm 5'5, they'll judge me because I got CLL and spent thousands of $$ to get to 5'8. People's judgement should be the last thing I, you or anyone else should care about because the judgement never ends. Sheesh. If you cannot be happy with yourself, you will not be happy with anyone or anything else." Everybody is judging everything and everyone always. Accept it and move on, I dont understand why ur assuming because i objectively analyze people i always think about whos judging who and not being out of my head and in a flow state of mind. You should always care about others judgement or you will literally die. If you start walking in the middle of the street nked and people start judging you, you should take that as a hint and think as to why maybe people are judging you instead of being ignorant and completely dismissing any and all judgement. I judge my 5 year old nephew when he crosses the street without looking because i want to socially condition him to be careful and aware of his surroundings. Bro for real i cant even believe im writing this paragraph right now, we are in different universes of existence, please dont stop taking judgement of people, biggest cope and stupidest thing you can do. If i havent convinced you by now then you were meant to be like this i dont know what else to say.
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Looks fine to me tbh, if you hadn't mentionned your torso was on the longer side I wouldn't have batted an eye.
Just stop focusing on it.
wouldnt have batted an eye doesnt equal good or bad. If you would notice Shaqs insanely big body by a proactive action then not noticing my torso is still an unconcious thought your brain filtered through exposure to environment. We spent most of our days out ignoring low value or non threatening humans because if we actively spent even the tiniest amount of mental power to process through every single human we see irl then our brains would be fried in hours and we would be exausted. As animals we expent the littlest amount of energy to get by because that is the safest for survival, Even today i might have walked by a person with an out of this world long torso but their face wasnt eye catching enough in the first place for me to turn and look at them and THEN maybe see their body and THEN see their skeleton passively. But i didnt because my reticular activating system is focused on value first, not every single living breathing human being that exists next to me. If you dont get what i mean after this then im sorry we view stuff way too differently to understand each other.
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"Every single person who deviates from the (localized) norm is given attention in a good or bad way." Dumbest sentence ive read this week. A 5ft1 bald indian janitor will in no way get an equal negative amount of attention as a 6ft4 white model in india will in positive attention. You are so unbelievably wrong about how real life works im actually astounded that you think for example japanese people actually give attention to ugly black guys in Japan.
"It's like if somebody judges me because I'm 5'5, they'll judge me because I got CLL and spent thousands of $$ to get to 5'8. People's judgement should be the last thing I, you or anyone else should care about because the judgement never ends. Sheesh. If you cannot be happy with yourself, you will not be happy with anyone or anything else." Everybody is judging everything and everyone always. Accept it and move on, I dont understand why ur assuming because i objectively analyze people i always think about whos judging who and not being out of my head and in a flow state of mind. You should always care about others judgement or you will literally die. If you start walking in the middle of the street nked and people start judging you, you should take that as a hint and think as to why maybe people are judging you instead of being ignorant and completely dismissing any and all judgement. I judge my 5 year old nephew when he crosses the street without looking because i want to socially condition him to be careful and aware of his surroundings. Bro for real i cant even believe im writing this paragraph right now, we are in different universes of existence, please dont stop taking judgement of people, biggest cope and stupidest thing you can do. If i havent convinced you by now then you were meant to be like this i dont know what else to say.
You have a hard time understanding words and I thought you were supposed to be a native speaker :o . A super short guy will always get noticed as does a super tall guy right?. Change the country to Philippines. See? Now change the country to the Netherlands. See? I dumbed the sentence down for you so you could understand the example. You seem like a manosphere guy. Might explain a lot of 'my way is the right way' things.
I never said nobody ever judges you, I just said you don't have to live for their judgment. People judging you because you didn't study medicine and people judging you because you're walking nked on the road are two different things. Pretty sure walking around nked is a violation and so is walking when the red signal is on. Poor examples.
If you live for people's validation and judgement you will NEVER be happy. You seem to have told yourself otherwise. Not everybody is mentally built like Kevin Durant. One of my favorite idols ended up killing herself because she couldn't live up to the pressure, judgment, and expectations of her fans but that reality doesn't exist for you right?. RIP Sulli.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulli
https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/14/k-pop-star-sulli-dead-age-25-suicide-suspected/
She was just 25 .
We are in two different realities alright because you seem to be living for people's judgment and your life revolves around it. I certainly wouldn't want to be in a race where the goal post is always moving but hey more power to you if that's how you roll.
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Nothing makes sense here.
You say you're Mediterranean, say that's not white, then mention Arab and Iranian rial. Iranians aren't Mediterranean if that's where you're from.
You state Iranian rials and you're a millionaire, that's about $20. Did you mean a millionaire in a different currency?
Are you a native English speaker as you don't sound like you are, no one who is successful and speaks English says bro or makes so many consistent grammatical mistakes.
I've never heard of anyone else having the women they're with looking on Tinder. These women are giving you an unhealthy outlook on life and do not represent the majority.
You views on Indians are deplorable
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You have a hard time understanding words and I thought you were supposed to be a native speaker :o . A super short guy will always get noticed as does a super tall guy right?. Change the country to Philippines. See? Now change the country to the Netherlands. See? I dumbed the sentence down for you so you could understand the example. You seem like a manosphere guy. Might explain a lot of 'my way is the right way' things.
I never said nobody ever judges you, I just said you don't have to live for their judgment. People judging you because you didn't study medicine and people judging you because you're walking nked on the road are two different things. Pretty sure walking around nked is a violation and so is walking when the red signal is on. Poor examples.
If you live for people's validation and judgement you will NEVER be happy. You seem to have told yourself otherwise. Not everybody is mentally built like Kevin Durant. One of my favorite idols ended up killing herself because she couldn't live up to the pressure, judgment, and expectations of her fans but that reality doesn't exist for you right?. RIP Sulli.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulli
https://www.tmz.com/2019/10/14/k-pop-star-sulli-dead-age-25-suicide-suspected/
She was just 25 .
We are in two different realities alright because you seem to be living for people's judgment and your life revolves around it. I certainly wouldn't want to be in a race where the goal post is always moving but hey more power to you if that's how you roll.
are you pulling out of your ass bro? I said im NOT a native speaker, Il be waiting for you to show me exactly where i said im a native speaker lmao.
Man you are so incorguent with your values and views, You keep misinterpreting my reality how you wanna view it tomake your self feel better or something. Idgaf why a 25year old kpop star killed her self, over 80% of suicides are men.. so what? why the fk are you bringing suicide into this, when did i ask, who asked, why are bringing this crap up.
"A super short guy will always get noticed as does a super tall guy right?. Change the country to Philippines. See? Now change the country to the Netherlands. See? I dumbed the sentence down for you so you could understand the example. You seem like a manosphere guy. Might explain a lot of 'my way is the right way' things." You have literally not adressed my specific points once, you keep making new threads of coversation without finishing previous ones, go back and reread my replies to you and adress anything specific otherwise stop wasting my time
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Nothing makes sense here.
You say you're Mediterranean, say that's not white, then mention Arab and Iranian rial. Iranians aren't Mediterranean if that's where you're from.
You state Iranian rials and you're a millionaire, that's about $20. Did you mean a millionaire in a different currency?
Are you a native English speaker as you don't sound like you are, no one who is successful and speaks English says bro or makes so many consistent grammatical mistakes.
I've never heard of anyone else having the women they're with looking on Tinder. These women are giving you an unhealthy outlook on life and do not represent the majority.
You views on Indians are deplorable
"You say you're Mediterranean, say that's not white, then mention Arab and Iranian rial. Iranians aren't Mediterranean if that's where you're from." Did i say im Arab? Where the fk did i say that bro. Iranianl rial is sarcastic you low iq dork, bro literally my 8 year old cousin would understand that since you literally said its worth 20 US DOLLARS, how fking dumb are you pls stop talking to me, go outside, talk to some people, hug your mom, touch some grass, have a beer with a friend of yours you need man for real.
"Are you a native English speaker as you don't sound like you are," I mentioned im not a native speaker more than once.
"no one who is successful and speaks English says bro or makes so many consistent grammatical mistakes." I guess you dont have any millionaire friends then, you are literally an average normie, i make 'grammatical' mistakes cause i dont care about correcting my , this is a forum not a business meeting, you should see the messages i get from my mentors though, so many mistakes you know why? Cause we know nobodys gonna get butthurt from seeing mistakes in grammar. Do you genuinely think in your heart that i legit dont know some of the words im writing or im just typing too fats and dont care enough to correct my self. Bro for real why am i exposing my self to people like you, most of the convos going on arent nearly as objective as they should and everybody keeps making up and creating more topic threads, dont care about teaching you what reality is anymore you sound autistic, i still cant believe you didnt understand the iranial rial reference. I seriously wanna meet people like you irl and see what they are like, im always so stunned when i think that some people in a social setting could be the same autistic weirdos as some of the people in here, whatever thats life for ya.
"I've never heard of anyone else having the women they're with looking on Tinder. These women are giving you an unhealthy outlook on life and do not represent the majority." Well you're not a player so i wouldnt guess youd understand. I have a rotation of 4 chicks right now, its fun you idiot, laying next to each other in bed and her scrolling through tinder while were both making little jokes and laughing, im tryna find the best guy for her to fk cause i GET IT. If your not in the 'secret' club of people that get that people like to have sex and dont judge others for doing so then ofcourse you have these feminized gynocentrtically conditioned views.
" These women are giving you an unhealthy outlook on life and do not represent the majority." Go say that to a group of 4 young chicks who like to have fun and lets see how they react to that. Go on anonymous forums and read what women actually want not what they showcase to society. But pls fill me in, these women dont represent the majority, how the fk would you know, pls tell me, pls explain to me intrasexual dynamics... lmfao im done
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are you pulling out of your ass bro? I said im NOT a native speaker, Il be waiting for you to show me exactly where i said im a native speaker lmao.
Man you are so incorguent with your values and views, You keep misinterpreting my reality how you wanna view it tomake your self feel better or something. Idgaf why a 25year old kpop star killed her self, over 80% of suicides are men.. so what? why the fk are you bringing suicide into this, when did i ask, who asked, why are bringing this crap up.
"A super short guy will always get noticed as does a super tall guy right?. Change the country to Philippines. See? Now change the country to the Netherlands. See? I dumbed the sentence down for you so you could understand the example. You seem like a manosphere guy. Might explain a lot of 'my way is the right way' things." You have literally not adressed my specific points once, you keep making new threads of coversation without finishing previous ones, go back and reread my replies to you and adress anything specific otherwise stop wasting my time
Oh boy you can't accept examples or questions that go against your ideals. Ouch.
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If you're a player why are you using tinder?
I assume you have a job, go to the gym and go out, you should be able to meet enough women in these situations.
I would say from your views on women and race, poor grammar and anger/emotional issues that $20 is far closer to your net worth than a million.
There was med guy that I knew, he moved to where I lived, he was very similar to you - scrawny, a so called player (he wasn't), cute ear ring, he expressed his views on Asians all the time, one time he got beaten so bad, but no one went to help him because he had it coming. Express your views in the wrong place, rather than hiding behind a forum, and people won't tolerate it.
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Oh boy you can't accept examples or questions that go against your ideals. Ouch.
yeah thats whats happening here oopsie, i just keep avoiding specific examples the other person is giving like a little bitch to not seem as dumb as i really am, thats me
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If you're a player why are you using tinder?
I assume you have a job, go to the gym and go out, you should be able to meet enough women in these situations.
I would say from your views on women and race, poor grammar and anger/emotional issues that $20 is far closer to your net worth than a million.
There was med guy that I knew, he moved to where I lived, he was very similar to you - scrawny, a so called player (he wasn't), cute ear ring, he expressed his views on Asians all the time, one time he got beaten so bad, but no one went to help him because he had it coming. Express your views in the wrong place, rather than hiding behind a forum, and people won't tolerate it.
"If you're a player why are you using tinder?" LOL ok fkface
"I assume you have a job, go to the gym and go out, you should be able to meet enough women in these situations." these situations?? imagine living in 2021 and not know what cold approach seshs are. I dont need my environment to work in my favour to approach chicks bro.
"I would say from your views on women and race, poor grammar and anger/emotional issues that $20 is far closer to your net worth than a million." If you dont have 100k in your fingertips if you want it right now, shut the fk up and sit quiet in your corner average person.
" he was very similar to you - scrawny," lol at calling me scrawny https://imgur.com/a/6u0z9cJ funny thing is i suffer from congenital adrenal hyperplasia, takes me 1 month to put as much muscle on my body as it takes average normies 6+. il come back for an update in august if i dont forget about this.
"Express your views in the wrong place, rather than hiding behind a forum, and people won't tolerate it." and what huh? people attack random people for their views? so what, you should embrace it if 99% of people have the same exact socially conditioned views. Most people will never achieve wealth, even most of the people who do surgery on this forum end up saving all their money over years to invest it all in one fking surgery that will bring back 0% of the money invested. Great financial plan for real, just keep on saving that dollar and one day ul be free. uhh so degenerate
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yeah thats whats happening here oopsie, i just keep avoiding specific examples the other person is giving like a little bitch to not seem as dumb as i really am, thats me
You dodge, swerve and jump over valid points to keep your ideals together. Really fun seeing a supposed millionaire getting triggered when he cherrypicks points to reply to.
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Congenital adrenal hyperplasia is a difficult condition with many challenging sequela. I know of no studies that indicate the accelerated gains that you anticipate but it will be interesting to see the results in a month
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You dodge, swerve and jump over valid points to keep your ideals together. Really fun seeing a supposed millionaire getting triggered when he cherrypicks points to reply to.
i literally adressed every single point you guys were making and im dodging ideals? wtf are you smoking bro, are you seeing stuff in your dreams, and im still not a millioaire idk in how many different ways do i have to say that for you to understand it. And triggered?? You dork the only reason im making long replies is cause every time i interact its an internalization of my beliefs and how different i think from the average person, the average mentality loser on this planet. fking lol calling me triggered, your ape brain is trying to imagine the situation in your favour instead of looking at the actual facts being represented and adressing them logically and in a structured way.
Nuh ur right im actually just a loser behind a screen https://imgur.com/a/zRmvcNj oops i wish i didnt cherrypick as much
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Congenital adrenal hyperplasia is a difficult condition with many challenging sequela. I know of no studies that indicate the accelerated gains that you anticipate but it will be interesting to see the results in a month
bro? its literally not, i simply have with my genetic background insanely high Testosterone levels that i can link from a blood panel, im out of the normal range by a large margin. I live my life on a perpetual mini cycle for most men. No studies indicating? LMFAO i cant do this anymore, go search testosterone and how it affects muscle protein synthesis
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i literally adressed every single point you guys were making and im dodging ideals? wtf are you smoking bro, are you seeing stuff in your dreams, and im still not a millioaire idk in how many different ways do i have to say that for you to understand it. And triggered?? You dork the only reason im making long replies is cause every time i interact its an internalization of my beliefs and how different i think from the average person, the average mentality loser on this planet. fking lol calling me triggered, your ape brain is trying to imagine the situation in your favour instead of looking at the actual facts being represented and adressing them logically and in a structured way.
Nuh ur right im actually just a loser behind a screen https://imgur.com/a/zRmvcNj oops i wish i didnt cherrypick as much
Damn. You keep getting riled up because you think we are 'judging' you. You sure do for other people's validation just like you said. Which idrc tbh. Your life your rules.
Nice job with the tinder(?) screenshot btw. Just goes on to prove that you're raging behind the keyboard.
Might want to censor the girls faces btw.
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Damn. You keep getting riled up because you think we are 'judging' you. You sure do for other people's validation just like you said. Which idrc tbh. Your life your rules.
Nice job with the tinder(?) screenshot btw. Just goes on to prove that you're raging behind the keyboard.
Might want to censor the girls faces btw.
And again you are so embarassingly wrong, i couldnt care less about any of this besides my initial post.If Lebron James shared a pic of his mansion to some people on the internet would you really think his insecure or flexing or simply just posting for a 2 second laugh cause he doesnt care. Nuh just your brain keeps turning the frame around cause your ego is trying to protect you. Yeah im fking raging right now i hate fking a different girl whenever i want, its so annoying and it takes so much of my time. https://imgur.com/a/wikGZKt :'( :'( :'( I hate matching with girls so much cause im scared that their judging me. And i wont cover their faces you basement dwelling nobody ;D its tinder these chicks are begging to be seen and get an extra follow on ig, but to speak your language im allowed to show their faces legally. Lmao you are so far away from reality. Ye this doesnt excite me anymore il come back later or tomorrow this s getting boring
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You should always care about others judgement or you will literally die.
Just proved my point. Trying to win arguments on the interment isn't going your way huh :'(
You say one thing now and then the exact opposite a few seconds later. Guess you can process only one argument at a time.
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its tinder these chicks are begging to be seen and get an extra follow on ig, but to speak your language im allowed to show their faces legally.
Yeah, just what I expected from a person who reads The Rationale Male.
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Is that a picture of you when you were being treated for your congenital adrenal hyperplasia as it doesn't look like the testosterone has kicked in yet? Maybe you are deficient in testosterone receptors, probably worth getting that checked.
I thought you were a player, that profile looks like the same or a bit worse than most people I know. You should be getting better and more on Tinder if you are a player.
Nobody who is doing well in life with work or women gets this triggered.
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Just proved my point. Trying to win arguments on the interment isn't going your way huh :'(
You say one thing now and then the exact opposite a few seconds later. Guess you can process only one argument at a time.
you crack me up bro, keep sniffing that copium
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Yeah, just what I expected from a person who reads The Rationale Male.
on my to do list but never read it to busy having sex sorry
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Is that a picture of you when you were being treated for your congenital adrenal hyperplasia as it doesn't look like the testosterone has kicked in yet? Maybe you are deficient in testosterone receptors, probably worth getting that checked.
I thought you were a player, that profile looks like the same or a bit worse than most people I know. You should be getting better and more on Tinder if you are a player.
Nobody who is doing well in life with work or women gets this triggered.
im getting second hand embarassment still talking to you, u sound like an autist try harding so much to get a reaction out of me.
"that profile looks like the same or a bit worse than most people I know" LMFAOOO whatever you say loser ;D
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on my to do list but never read it to busy having sxx sorry
Dude, you're just a kid lmao. I thought you read the book because you mentioned it a few posts ago. Nvm.
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Post your gains, it's been a few days you should have 2 weeks or so of 'normie' gains by now.
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Dude, you're just a kid lmao. I thought you read the book because you mentioned it a few posts ago. Nvm.
accuses that i read the rational male to shame me or something,didnt read it so says im a kid.
bro i literally dont give the tiniest fk about you, think of me how you want i couldnt care less. also just a kid LMAO i ve had sex with more women in the last 3 days than youve had this year
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Post your gains, it's been a few days you should have 2 weeks or so of 'normie' gains by now.
lol. and then what, i post my gainz and then what, ul find something else to cope with
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accuses that i read the rational male to shame me or something,didnt read it so says im a kid.
bro i literally dont give the tiniest fk about you, think of me how you want i couldnt care less. also just a kid LMAO i ve had sxx with more women in the last 3 days than youve had this year
Then why the fk are you suggesting it to other people? You're the type to suggest people stuff without knowing jack huh.
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wow we really are talking in different worlds right now. Calling my reality unhealthy without justifying why is a shaming tactic to assert frame in the conversation and set the tone of the judger rather than the one being judged. You talk like a woman but ofcourse what else can i expect from a clearly female gynocentrically conditioned male. I suggest you to read "The rational male" by Rollo Tomassi, read it slowly its a hard truth book that will change your life.
"Why say a bald Indian guy, as if that is bad thing?" Because its been proven in studies and researches that indian men are by far the least appealing race of men to women, documented anonymously by real women. Bald? Im not even gonna talk about that, any human on this planet who is bald if they had the chance to take a pill that would permanently regrow all their hair they would 10/10 times. Again proven in studies that balding or bald men are less appealing than their own selfs with hair.
"It might surprise you but there are some bald guys, even Indian guys, that are better looking than some white guys! " The exception doesnt make the rule, did you really think im assuming no indian men are more attractive than white guys? And to speak in your language a bit, why say white men?? whats so healthy about white men that you mention it comparetavely speaking in a higher morality state then indian men?
"You didn't mention career or charisma." LOL
Evidence women are much more superficial and give much more importance to physique than men.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mens-looks-matter-more-than-women-admit-study-shows_us_58ecf563e4b0ca64d91978be
https://www.livescience.com/58607-mens-looks-may-matter-more-than-personality.html
Manipulative, asympathetic, arrogant bullies have higher numbers of sxxual partners and have sxx more often.
http://www.wdish.com/life/bullies-sxx-study
Bullies have more sxx and higher self-esteem.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/women-really-dont-go-for-nice-guys-study-indicates/
Women really don’t like nice guys.
http://archive.is/e6p19
Unempathethic, narcissistic criminals are one of women’s first sxxual choices.
https://scottbarrykaufman.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/The-Dark-Triad-Personality.pdf
Women find narcissist s more attractive.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26098378
Bro you are literally living life with your eyes closed. Sometimes i forget just how ignorant the majority of men are toward life, reality and truth.
"6'5 as perfect height? Nobody in real life outside of forums thinks that" Except when we analyze actual human behavior towards men who are 6ft5 tall and take apart their life experience it would vastly show otherwise. Too bored to find evidence or articles for this but TRUST ME you do not want to see how women really behave with 6ft5+men.
With your fked up proportions you could only get laid with the kind of girls you matched on tinder lmao. So proud to be just another chad. That's your hustle huh. Guess we all know how you got to be a millionaire.
And stop having a mental breakdown over every single thing that people reply about. It's pathetic to see that you can't even hold two lines of proper argument without resorting to attacks.
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Then why the fk are you suggesting it to other people? You're the type to suggest people stuff without knowing jack huh.
With your fked up proportions you could only get laid with the kind of girls you matched on tinder lmao. So proud to be just another chad. That's your hustle huh. Guess we all know how you got to be a millionaire.
And stop having a mental breakdown over every single thing that people reply about. It's pathetic to see that you can't even hold two lines of proper argument without resorting to attacks.
Ur still coping over me huh, damn this feels weird still engaging with you i legit feel weird replying to you.
https://imgur.com/a/3jksw8S keep crying cause im pretty bitch
Im suggesting because my rich friends who have read it all recommend it thats why. You're so dumb in your mindset cant even figure out a reason why since your so insanely close minded. Irl you losers wouldnt hold eye contact with me for more than 2 seconds
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If you're happy to match with girls and guys then of course you'll get more matches. That's a bit unfair showing a screenshot with both sets on. Try just women and see how many you get.
When people don't hold your gaze and look away, that's normally because of pity or sometimes because they're laughing and they feel bad. Acting like you're good looking when they're not will get that reaction from people.
Where are the gains?
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If you're happy to match with girls and guys then of course you'll get more matches. That's a bit unfair showing a screenshot with both sets on. Try just women and see how many you get.
When people don't hold your gaze and look away, that's normally because of pity or sometimes because they're laughing and they feel bad. Acting like you're good looking when they're not will get that reaction from people.
Where are the gains?
what the actual fk are you talking about, you are mentally retarted this is so weird, do you just visualize stuff so that they fit your narrative, pls show me where the guys are id love to see them or rather dont, stop replying you're too low value, irl i would ignore you just like everyone does
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They're all women! Good luck with your catch. You really are living the 'player life'
Still no photos of the gains. Like I said, excess hormone may not result in gains. Get you hormone receptors checked - that's what the hormone binds to, sorry can't dumb it down any more than that for you
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They're all women! Good luck with your catch. You really are living the 'player life'
Still no photos of the gains. Like I said, excess hormone may not result in gains. Get you hormone receptors checked - that's what the hormone binds to, sorry can't dumb it down any more than that for you
ur so insanely stupid if you actually think women with female level testosterone levels can have bodybuilder physiques just cause their more sensitive to dht or T. Bro seriously stfu and go outside, get a hobby go touch some grass fr ive done it it feels good. Every time you reply i get second hand embarrassment from how pathetic you come across.
Like for real you really think your eliciting a reaction out of me cause ur tryna go back to the gainz ? I dont give a fk what a c*cksuk loser on some random forum says about my body, i could care less to justify my self you utter nobody. The presence of my essence in this page is a privilege you dont deserve to have. Honestly you losers online are creating a humiliation fetsih for me, its so validating comparing my self and my life to people like you that i recognize the toxicity in it but i just cant help it. I love when i show weaker males(cause you're not a man lmao) what an absolute chad i am. Its even more validating than having sex with hot chicks tbh. You get used to that after a while, especially in summer time. Whatever go selfsuck your self to sleep dreaming about how youl never be even close to experiencing the joy of my life. Piece out
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Triggered so easy. Great to see
Post some good women and gains when you've achieved it. Until then everyone will know you're a 150 lbs loser.
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Triggered so easy. Great to see
Post some good women and gains when you've achieved it. Until then everyone will know you're a 150 lbs loser.
i could be 100 pounds and i would still get more bitches than you, lmao tryna force weight as the main culprit of anything value.
Everyone will know...ahahaha you crack me up, i dont share the same mindset as your dwelling ass im the proactive cause of "everyone" in my life not the one awaiting reactions. And fyi im actually 115 lbs i just need to let that be known since everyone will see this ya know
"post some good women" aaaand u aint getting laid, cool thnx for letting me know but idrc
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Did u measure ur shoulder from the back or from the front
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Bruh you're in the 99% of men, more commonly known as "chads". Keep attacking people for having views different than yours, context switch because you can't defend yours, and repeat because that is the maximum argument your brain can process.
"I don't even care about you" yeah, pretty evident from how you come back, again and again, to get your ass handed to you. Do us a favor and keep your double-digit IQ arguments to yourself. You're not very intelligent and replying to you makes me lose a brain cell every time. The only comeback you seem to have is "i gEt lAiD sO yOurE a loSeR hurrr" idiot lol. Try to go back to your own posts and see how you contradict yourself time and again.
Stay triggered. Bum.
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Did u measure ur shoulder from the back or from the front
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Bruh you're in the 99% of men, more commonly known as "chads". Keep attacking people for having views different than yours, context switch because you can't defend yours, and repeat because that is the maximum argument your brain can process.
"I don't even care about you" yeah, pretty evident from how you come back, again and again, to get your ass handed to you. Do us a favor and keep your double-digit IQ arguments to yourself. You're not very intelligent and replying to you makes me lose a brain cell every time. The only comeback you seem to have is "i gEt lAiD sO yOurE a loSeR hurrr" idiot lol. Try to go back to your own posts and see how you contradict yourself time and again.
Stay triggered. Bum.
not wasting time with u, made my points, everytime i was logically dissecting ur arguments u kept creating other threads and not addressing my stuff. U have a big mouth on the internet, its so clear to me ur a pussy irl tho.