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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: DreamerLL on September 20, 2021, 11:27:23 PM
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I did the surgery in USA 2020 , total cm that I did lengthening is 7.8cm .
This is so disappointed disgusting and a nightmare for me
I am waiting 9 hours now with my broken leg to do the surgery for fixing my broken leg.
I will post images as soon as I can .
I slept normally after went back home from the removal surgery day but suddenly heard a pop out sound and then my femur bone break and bulging.
I don’t know Dr will respond for this complication cost.
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I am really regret now.
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Update:I have to wait 23 hours more start from now to go to surgery room. Extremely scary and I wish I never did LL . ( I did with stryde nails)
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I did the surgery in USA 2020 , total cm that I did lengthening is 7.8cm .
This is so disappointed disgusting and a nightmare for me
I am waiting 9 hours now with my broken leg to do the surgery for fixing my broken leg.
I will post images as soon as I can .
I slept normally after went back home from the removal surgery day but suddenly heard a pop out sound and then my femur bone break and bulging.
I don’t know Dr will respond for this complication cost.
Who is your doctor? Why did it break?
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wow how did this happen? How did your leg break?
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Any comments really support my complicated feeling now. I can’t believe this , I read a lot people here before decide to LL. (Movie, TheAlchemist, SNC, ….) sorry about my story.
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Any comments really support my complicated feeling now. I can’t believe this , I read a lot people here before decide to LL. (Movie, TheAlchemist, SNC, ….) sorry about my story.
You're not really even saying much though. What happened? How did this happen? What has the surgeon said about it?
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Who is your doctor? Why did it break?
I wish I know why it broke , I woke up by a pop sound on day 4 and see bones got bulging
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You're not really even saying much though. What happened? How did this happen? What has the surgeon said about it?
I am scared now , I am waiting for the surgery room , that’s why my chat is slow. And my mind is not 100%. But I will explain when I can. I am not in normal condition
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ok.. good luck man.. I'm hope you pull through and recover.
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ok.. good luck man.. I'm hope you pull through and recover.
I am finding a way to upload pictures and still keep my privacy.
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Sorry if I make u confusing. But I don’t know why it’s broke, maybe not consolidation enough( but that is my thinking- Dr allow to remove nails so it should be consolidation) as I said , I can’t reach with my Dr, only with Dr’s assistant and they said this is weird.
https://imgur.com/a/rY9yRGL
My picture at Hospital now.
I spent 1 hours to find out best way to post pic but still in privacy. I am still waiting for the surgery tomorrow ( I hope so ) ( I went to ER not my original surgery Dr the limb lengthening)
I am really disappointed because I can’t talk with Dr this whole day…
To be clear again What happened to me : I ready to woke up in this morning and ready to wash face, but not had chances to do it yet, a boom sound inside my leg come up. Still in bed not even get up yet. I was out of my mind didn’t know what was going on and Didn’t know why it happened, Doctor didn’t tell me why.Then call 911, Dr assistant and go to ER.
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Obviously it's because the bone wasn't healed fully enough for the nails to be taken out. Or the screw holes create a weakness until they are completely filled up.
Sorry to hear this DreamerLL. I am praying for your swift recovery.
Did you get your nail removed in the US with the original surgeon?
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Obviously it's because the bone wasn't healed fully enough for the nails to be taken out. Or the screw holes create a weakness until they are completely filled up.
Sorry to hear this DreamerLL. I am praying for your swift recovery.
Did you get your nail removed in the US with the original surgeon?
I can’t sleep tonight , yes all in and out by original Doctor in the US. It’s been round 12 months since I did the LL. Will post Xray pic but I am concerning about privacy.
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How many months has it been since your surgery? Have you been running or jumping in the 4 days previous to the breakage? And how old are you if you don't mind us asking?
These all play a factor.
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I can’t sleep tonight , yes all in and out by original Doctor in the US. It’s been round 12 months since I did the LL. Will post Xray pic but I am concerning about privacy.
If you plan to put the xray pic obviously blur your name and upload it on imgur after creating an account there. That way you can delete the pic whenever you want. Imgur lets you delete pics if you are logged in.
Are you from outside the US?
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One more speculation I can make is that it has to do something with osteolysis caused by Stryde nails. But we should wait for your surgeon to answer you.
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can i see the xrays before the nail was removed?
and can I see the xrays of the femur fracture?
i’ll tell you what I think happened
thank you
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Good luck, get well soon!
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How many months has it been since your surgery? Have you been running or jumping in the 4 days previous to the breakage? And how old are you if you don't mind us asking?
These all play a factor.
12 months , Doctor allowed me to remove nails , so….! No never run or jump since I put those nails in and out. I am early 30s. I am very cautious, didn’t run although Dr allow me to run.
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How did you break the femur? Sounds very unfortunate, especially if the doctor has given you ok..who is your doctor?
Could you post the x-rays here ?
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If you plan to put the xray pic obviously blur your name and upload it on imgur after creating an account there. That way you can delete the pic whenever you want. Imgur lets you delete pics if you are logged in.
Are you from outside the US?
I am inside the US for years now. Yes I will post Xrays as soon as I can with watermark and blur.
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can i see the xrays before the nail was removed?
and can I see the xrays of the femur fracture?
i’ll tell you what I think happened
thank you
Yes I will contact u.
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How did you break the femur? Sounds very unfortunate, especially if the doctor has given you ok..who is your doctor?
Could you post the x-rays here ?
I am not sure to tell the Dr name. But I will if things I think it have to. I will post xrays
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Yes I will contact u.
If this information is helpful would you mind sharing it? Could be very helpful to those about to have their nails removed.
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If this information is helpful would you mind sharing it? Could be very helpful to those about to have their nails removed.
Yes I will post Xray but That may effect my processing and I don’t want that, u know what I mean. But I will post X ray when my leg totally heal and I am in risk free.
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can i see the xrays before the nail was removed?
and can I see the xrays of the femur fracture?
i’ll tell you what I think happened
thank you
So your doctor is not Assayag! This leaves us with: Paley, Rozbruch, Mahbboubian and Depiparshad. Am I missing someone?
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So your doctor is not Assayag! This leaves us with: Paley, Rozbruch, Mahbboubian and Depiparshad. Am I missing someone?
ProgramDude had this same thing happen to him after nail removal with Rozbruch. But it could be anyone.
But let's not speculate any further to respect his privacy. If he chooses to, he would reveal it :)
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ProgramDude had this same thing happen to him after nail removal with Rozbruch. But it could be anyone.
But let's not speculate any further to respect his privacy. If he chooses to, he would reveal it :)
How long did he remove his nails? I removed my nails at 12 months and Dr allow to do it. They also took X-rays before the removal surgery date for 1 day.
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How long did he remove his nails? I removed my nails at 12 months and Dr allow to do it. They also took X-rays before the removal surgery date for 1 day.
After exactly one year. I check his diary just now.
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After exactly one year. I check his diary just now.
Omg …. The things I am so disappointed that was they can take less risk for their patients with cost them nothings even a penny but they didn’t. They was extremely careless. They almost to forgot to take Xrays and prescripted medicine to me. Luckily I read in this forum( from TheAL….) and ask them for medicine .
12months Until now no running , no jump , no stretching after removal the nails… More clear I never run or jump since do this LL even Dr allow me to run after the consolidation completed.
My Xray:
https://imgur.com/a/lGNL7mf
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ProgramDude had this same thing happen to him after nail removal with Rozbruch. But it could be anyone.
But let's not speculate any further to respect his privacy. If he chooses to, he would reveal it :)
Not Rozbruch.
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Man just when you thought it's all over.. something as gut wrenching as this happens. I am so, so sorry man. I wish you from the bottom of my soul that they will fix you up and there will be no lasting damage. Stay strong!!!
Did Dr Assayag offer his insight yet?
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Man just when you thought it's all over.. something as gut wrenching as this happens. I am so, so sorry man. I wish you from the bottom of my soul that they will fix you up and there will be no lasting damage. Stay strong!!!
Thanks for your kind words, No my Dr is not Assayag or Rozbruch , I would like to share to future LLers: very very very careful when do this surgery,and it always better with your original bone always, but if you really want to do this surgery please extremely extra careful,I am kind of confident about me because when Dr allowed me to run I didn’t run, Dr said I can remove the nails ( allow me to remove) I didn’t remove , I wait for 2 more months to remove but this bad thing still happen SO PLEASE EXTRA EXTRA CAREFUL, I am extremely disappointed that Dr can wait more few months to allow me to remove the nails but they didn’t.
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Who is your doc? My bad you paid so much money for stryde and had that complication, pure external Ilizarov may be the oldest method but the safest after all.
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Who is your doc? My bad you paid so much money for stryde and had that complication, pure external Ilizarov may be the oldest method but the safest after all.
Yes I think so too. It’s the safest
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How is pure externals any safer speaking of the complication DreamerLL had?
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After exactly one year. I check his diary just now.
I tried to read his diary , couldn’t find when did he remove the nail after he got complication.
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How is pure externals any safer speaking of the complication DreamerLL had?
That thing more gentle to your bone than nails although it look awful
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LOOK LIKE MY DR LEFT ME ALONE…. Omg
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How is pure externals any safer speaking of the complication DreamerLL had?
Becuase there is no nail inside so you only need one Major surgery to put the Ilizarov and the removal of the fixator is done even with local anesthesia
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Becuase there is no nail inside so you only need one Major surgery to put the Ilizarov and the removal of the fixator is done even with local anesthesia
He had a post nail removal fracture. The same can very well happen with ex-fix. Imagine wearing ex-fix for a year and you are still not comfortable removing it because of risk of a fracture. At the same time you are tired of the ex-fix.
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He had a post nail removal fracture. The same can very well happen with ex-fix. Imagine wearing ex-fix for a year and you are still not comfortable removing it because of risk of a fracture. At the same time you are tired of the ex-fix.
Was this the same thing happened with ProgramDude ?
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LOOK LIKE MY DR LEFT ME ALONE…. Omg
You should finally tell us who it is then. Maybe someone saw him ;)
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Was this the same thing happened with ProgramDude ?
His diary www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=733
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Dreamer did the surgery in la. I think we know who this leaves.
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He had a post nail removal fracture. The same can very well happen with ex-fix. Imagine wearing ex-fix for a year and you are still not comfortable removing it because of risk of a fracture. At the same time you are tired of the ex-fix.
Yes that can happen, but I think is very rare and that happens when the regenerate is soft. In any case internal fixation is more dangerous than external because in many ways such as infections. If the doctors put another nail in him he has chances again of a deep bone infection also fat emb.
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Dreamer did the surgery in la. I think we know who this leaves.
Please don’t do anything u r not sure, I will share when I think it has to.please understand for me. I am in a very terrible situation.
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You did the nail removal too early. As far as I know, for each centimerter gained, it generally takes 1 and a half month to fully recover, so with 8cm it is supposed to take 12 months plus three months of lengthening, in total as least 15 months to get the nail out.
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Omg …. The things I am so disappointed that was they can take less risk for their patients with cost them nothings even a penny but they didn’t. They was extremely careless. They almost to forgot to take Xrays and prescripted medicine to me. Luckily I read in this forum( from TheAL….) and ask them for medicine .
12months Until now no running , no jump , no stretching after removal the nails… More clear I never run or jump since do this LL even Dr allow me to run after the consolidation completed.
My Xray:
https://imgur.com/a/lGNL7mf
I am so sorry this happened to you. I pray for your relief and recovery, that looks beyond brutal. I am so sorry beyond words
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Hi , I do hope you feel better today and started coming into terms with what has happened. Did you get a response from Assayag? How is this going to be treated now? Hang in there.
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LOOK LIKE MY DR LEFT ME ALONE…. Omg
Depending on where you live, you need to find a trauma/reconstructive surgeon in the area. People get IM nails in their legs all the time when they have car/motorcycle accidents. Unlike Stryde, G-nail or betzbone, regular IM nails are not suitable for lengthening. But they will support your weight and help you get back to normal life while your bone continues to consolidate.
I don't know about femurs, but with Tibias, depending on how much you lengthen, it's ~2 years before the bone is fully consolidated and it's safe to remove the nails.
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I am so sorry this happened to you. I pray for your relief and recovery, that looks beyond brutal. I am so sorry beyond words
Thank you 🙏
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Praying for you <3
I am so sorry that this happened to you. You can only go up from here
What is the outlook going forward? Will you need to be operated on again and wear a cast?
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HOLY MAN! I just saw the Pic of your femur and X ray that sucks! who was your doctor that allow you to remove nails? you mean to say you never once ran in a year post- op? or did any strenuous activity?
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HOLY MAN! I just saw the Pic of your femur and X ray that sucks! who was your doctor that allow you to remove nails? you mean to say you never once ran in a year post- op? or did any strenuous activity?
Hello alls and Hello Movie, I will update more when I feel better, right now I still don’t think this is real for me, A nightmare in a nightmare.I never thought that I would have a complication like this , really. I will share more info about Dr when I think I have to, please understand for my situation, about running , I never ran since LL surgery until now, Never ran even I have the stryde nail full weight bearing inside. Never jump. I didn’t know about the stryde nail recall until I read topic of Alchemist.
https://imgur.com/a/8jUEBbi
Dr never give me a call even A simple one like ask me how am I doing?
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I am so sorry to hear about your situation Dreamer. I had STRYDE in May 2019 and had it removed 6 days ago. It must be so awful for you. We feel like we are pretty much through it, and this is our final stretch, but just goes to show that you can have problems, even when you think you have got over the worst of it. I will pray for you recover well.
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I was totally shocked after seeing your xray. So sorry about what happens to you. We all pray for you!
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I am so sorry to hear about your situation Dreamer. I had STRYDE in May 2019 and had it removed 6 days ago. It must be so awful for you. We feel like we are pretty much through it, and this is our final stretch, but just goes to show that you can have problems, even when you think you have got over the worst of it. I will pray for you recover well.
I feel very terrible that like I am living in hell, extremely shocking and in deepest of depression that I almost I think I am going to die,like better to inject something and die in peace than suffering this terrible experience ,was waited more than 24 hours with a fractured leg for a surgery room to fix my leg, got constipation and blood in poop, painful and painful and painful.
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@Dreamer: I PM’d you
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I feel very terrible that like I am living in hell, extremely shocking and in deepest of depression that I almost I think I am going to die,like better to inject something and die in peace than suffering this terrible experience ,was waited more than 24 hours with a fractured leg for a surgery room to fix my leg, got constipation and blood in poop, painful and painful and painful.
How the fk did they make you wait 24 hours? If that's not an emergency then what is?
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Hello alls and Hello Movie, I will update more when I feel better, right now I still don’t think this is real for me, A nightmare in a nightmare.I never thought that I would have a complication like this , really. I will share more info about Dr when I think I have to, please understand for my situation, about running , I never ran since LL surgery until now, Never ran even I have the stryde nail full weight bearing inside. Never jump. I didn’t know about the stryde nail recall until I read topic of Alchemist.
https://imgur.com/a/8jUEBbi
Dr never give me a call even A simple one like ask me how am I doing?
Hello DreamerLL,
I am very sorry to see you going through such hell.
Please be strong and focus on the surgery and then full recovery. What happened is done already, but you can try to make a positive difference by carefully planning so you achieve the full recovery. Take tragedies also as the opportunities to learn and be stronger and more cautious for the future endeavors.
Did the doctor or the doctor's office communicate with you at all? via email the least?
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Dream, how was your progress during the actual consolidation phase? Did you have any delays or slow growth? Did you eat calories, take calcium, etc?
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Hi Dreamer
Did your leg breaking have anything to do with the problems styde nail was recalled for?
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Worst part is that this will likely mean another internal nail and yet another nail removal...
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My Xray:
https://imgur.com/a/lGNL7mf
Hope you are doing and feeling better with the circumstances in mind DreamerLL.
From the X-Ray image it looks like the breakage occurred exactly the same place as Programdude who also lengthened ~7.8 cm or 3 inches on the femur:
It was near the top of the lengthening site that fractured
In Programdudes thread a guy made a post saying Paley had a similar experience with another patient described as the exact same position, but in this case it was during lengthening:
Dr. Paley had warned me to immediately contact him if I felt any constant sharp pains in a specific spot on the femur. It usually is a sign of a fracture, because it had happened to a former patient of his. That patient felt a sharp pain in a specific part, right where the bottom of the rod touched the femur. And then after lengthening the internal rod further, it snapped the leg. From my research online, it appears that stress fracture occur when you apply too much stress on the bone, which causes the bone to be reabsorbed into the body, not resting the bone enough to let to rebuild
It seems like that area, right above the lengthening spot in the femur is vulnerable to stresses. I am guessing you must have had a stress fracture in that area which built up and finally just gave in. The fact that it occurred in bed after waking up is most strange. Especially so soon after nail and rod removal. Perhaps a fracture occurred as a consequence of the removal, or maybe it was already there and wasn’t detected prior to the removal? Perhaps someone with medical education can shed some light on this.
Programdude seems to have had a good recovery, so there is good hope you just need to stay patient.
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I am guessing the muscles are still tight even after one year. The tight muscles keep putting pressure on the fragile/immature bones, that's why the bone was broken in the bed after waking up.
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Sorry if I sound like a bad person… it’s just hard to believe someone could have such bad fracture by simply sleeping in bed… especially when several people asked for the doctor’s name but DreamerLL still didn’t say it for some reasons.
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Sorry if I sound like a bad person… it’s just hard to believe someone could have such bad fracture by simply sleeping in bed… especially when several people asked for the doctor’s name but DreamerLL still didn’t say it for some reasons.
He is probably quite dependent on his doctor and might have felt afraid to mention the name.
Also he posted 2 pics.
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He is probably quite dependent on his doctor and might have felt afraid to mention the name.
Also he posted 2 pics.
I know the fracture was really bad and you could be right. It’s just hard for me to believe he didn’t do anything and this simply happened when he slept in bed.
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I know the fracture was really bad and you could be right. It’s just hard for me to believe he didn’t do anything and this simply happened when he slept in bed.
He said he woke up and this happened when he was taking a few steps. It's not like it snapped out of the blue while sleeping.
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Sorry if I sound like a bad person… it’s just hard to believe someone could have such bad fracture by simply sleeping in bed… especially when several people asked for the doctor’s name but DreamerLL still didn’t say it for some reasons.
I can’t believe this could happened and It happened to me, I never figure it out why this happened and happened to me . I am now focus on my recovery mainly , I shared Dr name with a member who sent to my messages because I feel he is really a good guy and support me. SuchLL I don’t know If you are in the team of Dr or not. But there are many wise members and who really did LL surgery they will know and understand what I am talking.
init1alove : I was thinking about that too, the cold in morning and the tight thighs may did this complication. Or there was a crake before the removal surgery but Dr didn’t see it.
Want-3-inches : I can guess who are you and you are a rude person,If one day something bad happen to you , you will understand what you are talking today is really rude . I didn’t do the LL in Cali and I didn’t put the nails in and out with Dr M. ( didn’t) . I confirmed it.This happened to me when I was still in bed. I confirmed it again. This is my final reply to you. I am very tired bro .
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Hi DreamerLL,
I don't know what I said that you call me a rude person. I was supporting you and explaining to SuchLL how you have posted pics and so you are obviously genuine. I just initially misunderstood your explanation of how the fracture happened but I have never doubted you. Also I was saying no one should pressure you into revealing your doctor.
The other day I went through ProgramDude's diary to answer your questions and have only been wishing that you get better soon. I NEVER even mentioned Dr M or Cali anywhere. Are you mistaking me with someone else?
I am a bit upset by your comment. Anyway I wish you get better soon bro.
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Hi DreamerLL,
I don't know what I said that you call me a rude person. I was supporting you and explaining to SuchLL how you have posted pics and so you are obviously genuine. I just initially misunderstood your explanation of how the fracture happened but I have never doubted you.
The other day I went through ProgramDude's diary to answer your questions and have only been wishing that you get better soon. I NEVER even mentioned Dr M or Cali anywhere. Are you mistaking me with someone else?
I am a bit upset by your comment. Anyway I wish you get better soon bro.
I am sorry , I quite misunderstood you, I thought you try trick me , I confirmed that I got a broken leg when I was still in bed. I am very tired and depressed . If I said anything wrong about you I am sorry and please pardon me.
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I am sorry , I quite misunderstood you, I thought you try trick me , I confirmed that I got a broken leg when I was still in bed. I am very tired and depressed . If I said anything wrong about you I am sorry and please pardon me.
no worries bro :) please keep us updated on your recovery and all the best!
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How the fk did they make you wait 24 hours? If that's not an emergency then what is?
Yes, I still very angry about that too. :-\ 🤷♀️
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I can’t believe this could happened and It happened to me, I never figure it out why this happened and happened to me . I am now focus on my recovery mainly , I shared Dr name with a member who sent to my messages because I feel he is really a good guy and support me. SuchLL I don’t know If you are in the team of Dr or not. But there are many wise members and who really did LL surgery they will know and understand what I am talking.
init1alove : I was thinking about that too, the cold in morning and the tight thighs may did this complication. Or there was a crake before the removal surgery but Dr didn’t see it.
Want-3-inches : I can guess who are you and you are a rude person,If one day something bad happen to you , you will understand what you are talking today is really rude . I didn’t do the LL in Cali and I didn’t put the nails in and out with Dr M. ( didn’t) . I confirmed it.This happened to me when I was still in bed. I confirmed it again. This is my final reply to you. I am very tired bro .
I’m sorry for what I said earlier. This is a nightmare and I wish you get better soon!
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My Nails removal complication in USA by Dr Depibashard LimbplastX Nevada.
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You took the nails out too early. :( Sorry about what you're goiing through.
I did 9.5cm with Betz (10cm left, 9cm right) and I only took my nails more than 18 months later.
And 18 months after lengthening, not after surgery.
I was in my late 20s, early 30s then.
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Not saying Dr. Debiparshad is a bad doctor, but I was looking into getting my nails removed by him and the receptionist (Teresa) was rude and unprofessional through emails in my experience, I'm sure she wouldn't forward my messages to the doctor in a timely manner either, she replied after 2 weeks one time.. even after I emailed twice. I was hoping for significantly better service if I was willing to pay 14K for removal surgery... DreamerLL , you might have removed them too early unfortunately, and you said you never ran on the nails or any high impact activities, and rather than that being a good thing, It might've been detrimental to your full recovery. When you run you make micro-fractures that make your bones stronger, you should've tried light jogging when your doctor cleared you and build up from there slowly and carefully.
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My Nails removal complication in USA by Dr Depibashard LimbplastX Nevada.
I always felt (and wrote somewhere in here) that Dr Depibahsard is a bit "green".
Wishing you best of luck with your recovery.
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I always felt (and wrote somewhere in here) that Dr Depibahsard is a bit "green".
Wishing you best of luck with your recovery.
If I remember right he was offering some kind of "package deal" with 2 nights hotel stay to get people to remove nails with him and maybe he got complacent trying to increase his numbers. I wonder what explanation he gave DreamerLL after causing all this trauma. At the very least he shouldn't charge a penny for sorting this complication out.
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If I remember right he was offering some kind of "package deal" with 2 nights hotel stay to get people to remove nails with him and maybe he got complacent trying to increase his numbers. I wonder what explanation he gave DreamerLL after causing all this trauma. At the very least he shouldn't charge a penny for sorting this complication out.
Excuse me @want-3-inches, are we still talking about limb lengthening or about pizza night deals!?
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Hi Dreamer,
Like the rest of us on the forum, I'm very sorry that you are having to experience this complication. Thank you for sharing the details of this event because by doing this; many others will now be aware of this possibility and can go even further in prevention measures.
A few details that I gathered from your posts:
- Nails were removed 12 months after surgery or 9 months after lengthening was completed.
- You did not perform any strenuous activity during the past 12 months. (Only walking)
Future CLL'ers and those that have undergone CLL but will have their nails removed soon; please pay special attention to both DreamerLL and ProgramDude's, forum posts. They both have experienced upper femur fractions post nail removal surgery.
DreamerLL, this is a setback that will set you up for a COMEBACK. You have gained 3 inches of additional height and this incident will not take that away from you. Your bone will heal fast just like it did with the initial CLL procedure and you'll be back to walking in no time. The time will fly by and you'll be on track. It's just one leg...yes that is no fun; but you can still get around okay once the surgery pains heal. Focus on what you have accomplished my friend. You'll battle your way through this final challenge and when you ultimately succeed; you'll be stronger than you ever have before...mentally and physically. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions for me or if I can provide more feedback.
All the Best,
IFS
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All best wishes and good luck on resolving this issue with Dr. D. I hope it gets sorted out for you soon. And thank you for putting all this out there on the forum for future and current LL'ers to take note of. I had my LL femur surgery in July with Dr. M and will have rods removed later rather than sooner now after reading all this, plus have Xrays done and read prior to removal. I still don't understand why Dr. D has not responded to you and reassured you yet.
I agree with IFS's positive response and words!
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You'll come out of this okay bud x. :)
Stay safe. Remember you are 3 inches taller now! That's awesome.
It's unfortunate. But at least it happened in bed and not while crossing the road in traffic or something.
Wishing you a speedy recovery.
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My Nails removal complication in USA by Dr Depibashard LimbplastX Nevada.
Thanks for sharing this.
I looked him up - he looks like he's 30 years old at most, how on earth is he performing cosmetic LL surgeries? In my not so humble opinion every doctor should work their way up over many years, even decades, working on reconstructive cases resulting from trauma or defect with increasing complexity. They should do this until they can spot risks / complications in the blink of an eye, and address these confidently. That is when they can consider breaking perfectly healthy bones for cosmetic reasons.
Plastic surgeons coming straight out of uni are a big red flag.
I know it does not help you DreamerLL, but at least sharing your experience will help others. It certainly helps me. Stay strong man, it will all be good!
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Thanks for sharing this.
I looked him up - he looks like he's 30 years old at most, how on earth is he performing cosmetic LL surgeries? In my not so humble opinion every doctor should work their way up over many years, even decades, working on reconstructive cases resulting from trauma or defect with increasing complexity. They should do this until they can spot risks / complications in the blink of an eye, and address these confidently. That is when they can consider breaking perfectly healthy bones for cosmetic reasons.
Plastic surgeons coming straight out of uni are a big red flag.
I know it does not help you DreamerLL, but at least sharing your experience will help others. It certainly helps me. Stay strong man, it will all be good!
I think he's much older than that. He received his MD in 2007. That would give him 14 years of clinical experience, though at most 12 of which may have been surgical.
In the North American medical system where you have to complete an undergraduate first, and 3-4 years of medical school later, that would make him 39 years old at the youngest.
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For those interested I believe Dr Assayag addressed this matter on his recent appearance with the cyborg fella.
Best.
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Yep. Since Dr A got to see the x-rays he said even he would've gone ahead and removed the nails. So Dr D wasn't negligent at nail removal I guess. Props to Dr A for his honesty here.
It's just DreamerLL's bad luck or this procedure is just not safe as we might think.
Dr A said a bunch of negative things about the Stryde nail. But it's surprising when Nuvasive initially did the recall, all surgeons were supportive of the nail and were thinking it should come back right away. Anyway, hopefully this is not a problem even with the Precice nail.
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Reminder, when something goes not as planned it doesn't have to be the dr's or the patients fault.
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Reminder, when something goes not as planned it doesn't have to be the dr's or the patients fault.
Not sure if you directed that to me. If so, yes I agree and that is what I wrote too.
If not, please ignore this reply :)
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Not sure if you directed that to me. If so, yes I agree and that is what I wrote too.
If not, please ignore this reply :)
It was just a general comment, and yes I can see now that is what you wrote too :)
I agree with your comment :)
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Deep apologies, I really hope things get better. This is an important lesson to the rest of us to be careful.
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For those interested I believe Dr Assayag addressed this matter on his recent appearance with the cyborg fella.
Best.
Yep. Since Dr A got to see the x-rays he said even he would've gone ahead and removed the nails. So Dr D wasn't negligent at nail removal I guess. Props to Dr A for his honesty here.
It's just DreamerLL's bad luck or this procedure is just not safe as we might think.
Dr A said a bunch of negative things about the Stryde nail. But it's surprising when Nuvasive initially did the recall, all surgeons were supportive of the nail and were thinking it should come back right away. Anyway, hopefully this is not a problem even with the Precice nail.
Any chance of a link? Is the cyborg fella a youtube channel?
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For people considering doing LL, what are some things I can do to decrease the risk of this complication happening to me? I will probably get gnail with Dr. Giotikas
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"You took the nails out too early"
How many months should one wait before taking out the internal nails? Such as for gnail
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Reminder, when something goes not as planned it doesn't have to be the dr's or the patients fault.
I totally agree with you.
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Is it for this kind of complication the Stryde nail was put out of the market?
DreamerLL wishing for your fast recovery.
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"You took the nails out too early"
How many months should one wait before taking out the internal nails? Such as for gnail
The recommendation of Dr Guichet to his patients is 18 months.
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For people considering doing LL, what are some things I can do to decrease the risk of this complication happening to me? I will probably get gnail with Dr. Giotikas
I heard many good comments about him in this forum.
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"You took the nails out too early"
How many months should one wait before taking out the internal nails? Such as for gnail
I only personally know Betz patients. The ones I know usually took the nail out around 2 years after surgery and everyone is fine, me included. I'd wait around that. Just 1 year is too soon.
In my case, I had the surgery in January 2012 and I took the nails out in the end of December (close to Christmas) 2013. So, almost 2 years from surgery, 1,5 year from completed lengthening.
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It depends on consolidation rate, not just time. I got my internal nails removed 13 months after I finished lengthening and could've done it 2-3 months sooner but wasn't able to fly back to China right then.
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How do you feel? How did you handle that?
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It seems to me having a boom sound in the bones and the circumstance is just bone bulging and they are both way better than being short but still I am hoping for your swift recovery.
If I were you I would've never said I wished I never had done LL instead I would've rejoiced over being taller than previous although with some physical issues.
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Does anybody has an opinion if this so scaring event could happen because the diameter of the nail chosen was a bit larger than it should and the bone was under tension a lot of time and broke where it was still not hard as the rest.
I don't know where was the fracture but maybe even normal bone could broken, intuitively, if its medullary cavity was penetrated with some ''violence'', maybe wishing it was the higher diameter, needed for the weight of the person and if the values in consideration to choose the nail diameter were in the margin between two diferent diameter nails.
I know that definitive callus bone is apparently as hard as normal bone but there are different theories and opinions in articles and one can again intuitively imagine, speculate just for example that the patient had a poor diet in calcium and the new bone wasn't yet as hard and the same as the other.
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The x-rays... I'm so sorry what happened to you. How is your condition right now? Is everything okay?
I mean if one of them can break suddenly, the other one also very risky of you to press on it. I'm very worried about you right now
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If you have recent imaging data please put it at this thread. Redact any information that could be used to dox you.