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Community Hangout => Off Topic => Topic started by: stevens on September 23, 2021, 12:21:03 PM

Title: Predictions
Post by: stevens on September 23, 2021, 12:21:03 PM
2035 growth plate implant (alternative to LL without side effects but you still need to use the metal fixators)
2042- AI with the same level of intelligence as a human
2042-longevity escape velocity for billionaires
2050- transdifferentiation of bone to hyaline cartilage (growth plate) with nanobots to grow proportionally and in a non-invasive way
2050- affordable hyper realistic human-like female robots
2065-singularity
2075-2080 affordable anti aging.
I don't think we would see reverse aging until the next century or it may come faster thanks to the singularity.
I say 2065 for the singularity because ray kurzweil was wrong about the technologies increasing in speed every 12 moths, it is really every 18 months.
For example he predicted self-driving cars by 2010 but they will come by 2025-2030. You just have to multiply Kurzweil predictions time differences from 2005 by 1.5x.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on September 23, 2021, 12:25:04 PM
2035 growth plate implant (alternative to LL without side effects but you still need to use the metal fixators)
2042- AI with the same level of intelligence as a human
2042-longevity escape velocity for billionaires
2050- transdifferentiation of bone to hyaline cartilage (growth plate) with nanobots to grow proportionally and in a non-invasive way
2050- affordable hyper realistic human-like female robots
2065-singularity
2075-2080 affordable anti aging.
I don't think we would see reverse aging until the next century or it may come faster thanks to the singularity.
I say 2065 for the singularity because ray kurzweil was wrong about the technologies increasing in speed every 12 moths, it is really every 18 months.
For example he predicted self-driving cars by 2010 but they will come by 2025-2030. You just have to multiply Kurzweil predictions time differences from 2005 by 1.5x.

Altos is doing antiaging, I think related medicines may come sooner. I think reopening growth plates and curing cancer may become a reality in a few decades.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: Bournelli on September 23, 2021, 12:48:28 PM
I think they would be much more expensive than even LL so let's forget about new techniques in the future.
Also,it won't be a bad choice to move out for Canada and European countries if you want to be showered with a surrounding lack of height discriminations
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: stevens on September 23, 2021, 01:20:52 PM
I think that the ani aging will take more than you think. And about the cost of the growth plate implant, i think it may be cheaper because it is an easier procedure to do.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on September 23, 2021, 02:04:01 PM
I think that the ani aging will take more than you think. And about the cost of the growth plate implant, i think it may be cheaper because it is an easier procedure to do.

antiaging, you mean like medicine that make us stay young?
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: Exxon on September 23, 2021, 02:08:33 PM
Not to be too explicit or anything but I think someone will make a robot that you can have sex with anytime you want at around the year 2040.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on September 23, 2021, 02:25:47 PM
Not to be too explicit or anything but I think someone will make a robot that you can have sxx with anytime you want at around the year 2040.

That stuff already existed in Japan
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: stevens on September 23, 2021, 03:17:43 PM
For those robots AI is the problem. It will be easier to make them look like humans but ai is hard. That's why it will take so long
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: Exxon on September 23, 2021, 03:32:12 PM
That stuff already existed in Japan

Lol seriously? Damn that's progress
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on September 23, 2021, 09:21:19 PM
Lol seriously? Damn that's progress

Well yeah, Seems like that thing getting popular for a reason.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: stevens on September 24, 2021, 12:21:20 AM
I wanted to say self driving cars in 2020 is what he predicted. My error
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on September 24, 2021, 01:00:07 AM
I wanted to say self driving cars in 2020 is what he predicted. My error

That already exists, does it? In National Defense and Security Research.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: stevens on September 24, 2021, 11:06:15 AM
I was talking about everyone in earth having one of those
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on September 25, 2021, 06:30:29 PM
I was talking about everyone in earth having one of those

I think everyone having self driving cars may not take tok long as most cars sold today already equipped with LCD and google maps.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: DonBones on September 25, 2021, 07:51:13 PM
Not to be too explicit or anything but I think someone will make a robot that you can have sxx with anytime you want at around the year 2040.

At which point height will become irrelevant, assuming the robot is hot ;)
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on September 25, 2021, 07:58:09 PM
At which point height will become irrelevant, assuming the robot is hot ;)

Speaking of robots, do you think we may see half robot and half human this century during our lifetime?
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: Exxon on September 26, 2021, 04:01:53 PM
At which point height will become irrelevant, assuming the robot is hot ;)


HAHAHAHAHA   :D. Maybe that can cure height dysphoria for a huge chunk of patients.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on September 27, 2021, 03:26:27 PM

HAHAHAHAHA   :D. Maybe that can cure height dysphoria for a huge chunk of patients.

A safer, more innovative LL surgery may be more helpful to cure height dysphoria in some.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 02, 2021, 04:11:49 AM
For those robots AI is the problem. It will be easier to make them look like humans but ai is hard. That's why it will take so long

Actually our understanding of AI has jumped significantly over the past 7 years. Our smartphones already being supported by AI. Bixby, for example.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 02, 2021, 04:13:19 AM
2035 growth plate implant (alternative to LL without side effects but you still need to use the metal fixators)
2042- AI with the same level of intelligence as a human
2042-longevity escape velocity for billionaires
2050- transdifferentiation of bone to hyaline cartilage (growth plate) with nanobots to grow proportionally and in a non-invasive way
2050- affordable hyper realistic human-like female robots
2065-singularity
2075-2080 affordable anti aging.
I don't think we would see reverse aging until the next century or it may come faster thanks to the singularity.
I say 2065 for the singularity because ray kurzweil was wrong about the technologies increasing in speed every 12 moths, it is really every 18 months.
For example he predicted self-driving cars by 2010 but they will come by 2025-2030. You just have to multiply Kurzweil predictions time differences from 2005 by 1.5x.

I hope the affordable antiaging could come sooner than 2070. Maybe around this mid century it will be available to the 70 percent of the world's population, just like COVID vaccination is available to almost everyone now.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: stevens on October 02, 2021, 04:34:24 AM
to be honest my new prediction is that nanobots will have affordable reverse aging by 2045.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: stevens on October 02, 2021, 04:35:21 AM
we still need to undestand how our brain works for that type of social AI
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: stevens on October 02, 2021, 04:39:04 AM
well i think that there is a possibility to get a humanoid robot that looks like us by 2038. My new theory is 2045 for the social AI to be perfected.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 02, 2021, 05:01:59 AM
to be honest my new prediction is that nanobots will have affordable reverse aging by 2045.

Is nanobots available now in some hospitals?
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 02, 2021, 06:49:26 AM
well i think that there is a possibility to get a humanoid robot that looks like us by 2038. My new theory is 2045 for the social AI to be perfected.

That kinda reminds me of a game " Detroit: Become Human."
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on October 02, 2021, 04:19:04 PM
Is nanobots available now in some hospitals?

There are no nanobots anywhere.  For 40 years they've been in development but nobody can figure out how to make them.  You can't build them like a normal robot because they're too small; getting a few atoms to stick together like that has to be done though chemistry.  Read what Richard Smalley has to say about them.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 02, 2021, 07:17:45 PM
There are no nanobots anywhere.  For 40 years they've been in development but nobody can figure out how to make them.  You can't build them like a normal robot because they're too small; getting a few atoms to stick together like that has to be done though chemistry.  Read what Richard Smalley has to say about them.

If we wanted to help humanity reach some dream like antiaging, would we need nanobots do the job?

And if we mastered nanobots, would they help a lot to people wanting LL?
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on October 03, 2021, 12:14:30 AM
If we wanted to help humanity reach some dream like antiaging, would we need nanobots do the job?

I don't know.  The problem with aging is nobody has a complete understanding of what it even is.  Without knowing what the problem is it's difficult to guess what the solution would be.

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And if we mastered nanobots, would they help a lot to people wanting LL?

Yes and no.  They would help anyone do anything; LL would become irrelevant.  Mastery of molecular assembly would be a bigger change to life on planet earth than the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs, and that is not an exaggeration.  It would allow for godlike power over matter from the subatomic level to solar system level.  By itself it wouldn't be enough for us to to do anything interstellar and beyond, or give us a better understanding of what lies at the submolecular level of matter.  Although that last part might be needed to perform molecular assembly in the first place.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 03, 2021, 01:05:08 AM
I don't know.  The problem with aging is nobody has a complete understanding of what it even is.  Without knowing what the problem is it's difficult to guess what the solution would be.

Yes and no.  They would help anyone do anything; LL would become irrelevant.  Mastery of molecular assembly would be a bigger change to life on planet earth than the meteor that wiped out the dinosaurs, and that is not an exaggeration.  It would allow for godlike power over matter from the subatomic level to solar system level.  By itself it wouldn't be enough for us to to do anything interstellar and beyond, or give us a better understanding of what lies at the submolecular level of matter.  Although that last part might be needed to perform molecular assembly in the first place.

Guess we still have a long way to go before we conquer aging. We conquered height last century, before that people thought once a person done growing taller, that's it. But we were able to change so shorter could have a second chance of growing. Probably we'll be able to conquer aging this century.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: stevens on October 04, 2021, 04:13:59 AM
by the way i love science. detroit become humans, the whole game has a secret ending where they show that Kamski (creator of the androids) created the deviants and that they had no autonomy.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 04, 2021, 04:21:05 AM
by the way i love science. detroit become humans, the whole game has a secret ending where they show that Kamski (creator of the androids) created the deviants and that they had no autonomy.
Are you referring to this ending?

https://youtu.be/xk-X4a-TSio
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: stevens on October 04, 2021, 05:17:14 AM
yes
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 04, 2021, 02:07:14 PM
yes

Not sure about the meaning of the word autonomy,I think you mean freedom right?

But according to the video I posted, just saw robots kill each other or being abandoned.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on October 04, 2021, 03:31:15 PM
If you want to be a part of this, you need to get really good at math.  That's a big regret I have in life; not studying math really, really hard when I was young so I could be a scientist.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 04, 2021, 03:36:14 PM
If you want to be a part of this, you need to get really good at math.  That's a big regret I have in life; not studying math really, really hard when I was young so I could be a scientist.

Well, I'm not too bad at math, but I'm also bad at math sometimes. Have you heard of nine-nine multiplication table? I could calculate any numbers instantly without calculator. For example, nine times nine equal eighty one.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on October 04, 2021, 07:03:23 PM
How old are you?
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 04, 2021, 07:08:21 PM
How old are you?

Almost early 40s.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 04, 2021, 07:20:07 PM
How old are you?

May I also ask how old you are? It's ok if you want to keep it a secret.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: stevens on October 04, 2021, 09:09:25 PM
Not sure about the meaning of the word autonomy,I think you mean freedom right?

But according to the video I posted, just saw robots kill each other or being abandoned.

more like being alive
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: stevens on October 04, 2021, 09:11:57 PM
Almost early 40s.
research a lot of anti and reverse aging and if in your 60s we dont have anything to stop or reverse aging, get cryonics
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 04, 2021, 09:14:09 PM
research a lot of anti and reverse aging and if in your 60s we dont have anything to stop or reverse aging, get cryonics

Is it something that freezes you? Does it really work?
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on October 04, 2021, 09:33:32 PM
May I also ask how old you are? It's ok if you want to keep it a secret.

Same as you.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: stevens on October 05, 2021, 03:31:03 AM
Is it something that freezes you? Does it really work?
yes freezing but current ones are not 100 percent perfect but they will be perfected.
Title: Re: Predictions
Post by: ilovescience on October 07, 2021, 05:17:44 AM
yes freezing but current ones are not 100 percent perfect but they will be perfected.

I recently spent days searching on that, and there are only a few places doing that. Hopefully more countries will do cryonics.