Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Doctors => Topic started by: Jake24 on November 26, 2021, 06:52:27 PM
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Does anyone know anything about him? I have seen his biography and he seems pretty reputable, and there are a few diaries about him, and singapore is a very strict country in terms of health, however there are some mixed reviews on him. Really interested as Iam a Singaporean and would really like to do the surgery in Singapore
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Recently came across this article. https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/QredVfNFc8yqMVIc5u5Q3g
(translate page to english if ur unable to read)
thoughts? Iam from Singapore and i really want this surgery but articles like this make me so scared. Is Dr Sarb reliable?
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This is not pleasant. Singapore is not a 3rd World country at all!
Let's "hope" the girl and the newspaper are a bit "sensacionalists" and the doctor is not neither skilled nor experienced or serious.
But the issue is also that this is all possible....
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This is not pleasant. Singapore is not a 3rd World country at all!
Let's "hope" the girl and the newspaper are a bit "sensacionalists" and the doctor is not neither skilled nor experienced or serious.
But the issue is also that this is all possible....
They added pictures too, What do u think?!?
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In one of the pictures it seems an infection with possible allergy or skin secondary disease very badly managed. Responsibility may be shared between doctor and patient (?). In another one cicatrization isn't achieved yet. It may be a physiological problem, it's described as oneof the possible complications of LL.
I don't know how to interpret the other photos but still, don't see any problem in the Rx.
There are people here with some practice interpreting Rx and if Dr.Assayag could comment it would be great.
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She claimed she could not walk after 1 month or something I believe but she had precice 2 for sure so that s ofc not possible to do in this amount of time .
The infection looks bad and this doctor have ppl complaining also in this forum with misalignments in almost every one .
Just fly to S Korea and go to dr.Lee and stay safe
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If he is the same as Sarbjit Singh at Mount Elizabeth Hospital, if with so many misalignements related in the forum and looking at his CV, this is really scaring.
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If he is the same as Sarbjit Singh at Mount Elizabeth Hospital, if with so many misalignements related in the forum and looking at his CV, this is really scaring.
I realized that all CVs are crazy basicly ..also giotikas s ones and he had misalignments, one death , bad hospital care etc in like..what , 1 year?
Monegal itself has not a stupid CV and it's bad.
Dr.M has a crap CV and it proved really good outcomes even tho his marketing it's what never put him in my list .
I would stick to patients experiences more then CVs because they proved to be no really useful
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I realized that all CVs are crazy basicly ..also giotikas s ones and he had misalignments, one death , bad hospital care etc in like..what , 1 year?
Monegal itself has not a stupid CV and it's bad.
Dr.M has a crap CV and it proved really good outcomes even tho his marketing it's what never put him in my list .
I would stick to patients experiences more then CVs because they proved to be no really useful
Why is his CV crazy? also i emailed him and got a response i’ll show later
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She claimed she could not walk after 1 month or something I believe but she had precice 2 for sure so that s ofc not possible to do in this amount of time .
The infection looks bad and this doctor have ppl complaining also in this forum with misalignments in almost every one .
Just fly to S Korea and go to dr.Lee and stay safe
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https://gyazo.com/6f2d437b9e9ef2c237d1bdaf1e929c1a , this was his reply. He said she used fitbone and the infection picture is fake. What do you think?
Patient Picture Dr Sarb provided : https://gyazo.com/a1211b9168e309596eddc171404d7096
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Hi All
I have consulted this doctor.
FitBone is internal method, non weight bearing and the technology is old. Dr. Sarbjit did highlight the issues of FitBone.
He would prefer you to Precice2.2 less mechanism failure but again there is always risk in LL Surgery.
My General impression of this Doc - he is helpful but may not be experienced as compared to Dr. Pailey or Dr. Lee.
If you have money and time, go to the USA or Korea to do it . The total cost is not far from Singapore cost.
If you want weight bearing nail, go to Gnail under Dr. Giotiokas.
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Hi All
I have consulted this doctor.
FitBone is internal method, non weight bearing and the technology is old. Dr. Sarbjit did highlight the issues of FitBone.
He would prefer you to Precice2.2 less mechanism failure but again there is always risk in LL Surgery.
My General impression of this Doc - he is helpful but may not be experienced as compared to Dr. Pailey or Dr. Lee.
If you have money and time, go to the USA or Korea to do it . The total cost is not far from Singapore cost.
If you want weight bearing nail, go to Gnail under Dr. Giotiokas.
what do u think about him? are u singaporean also? im from singapore and i want this surgery done but im not looking to travel just to do this surgery
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https://gyazo.com/6f2d437b9e9ef2c237d1bdaf1e929c1a , this was his reply. He said she used fitbone and the infection picture is fake. What do you think?
Patient Picture Dr Sarb provided : https://gyazo.com/a1211b9168e309596eddc171404d7096
Hi I’m the manager in charge of precice in Singapore.
1) this patient, indeed used fitbone, reason being precice were not available in Singapore due to recall issue because of stryde. Which we are still not allowed to use.
2) this indeed is her standing picture. Why I know is because her friend who was implanted with precice, is staying with her in the same hote room which I visited them before. And by the way, her friend is doing well.
3) I’m a experienced OR nurse, in this field for about 18 years. All I can comment is that the fitbone girl’s nail was implanted properly, reasonably. The issue actually arises from the implant failure.
4) lastly, I don’t work for Dr Singh. I just felt the need to comment fairly on this matter.
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Hi I’m the manager in charge of precice in Singapore.
1) this patient, indeed used fitbone, reason being precice were not available in Singapore due to recall issue because of stryde. Which we are still not allowed to use.
2) this indeed is her standing picture. Why I know is because her friend who was implanted with precice, is staying with her in the same hote room which I visited them before. And by the way, her friend is doing well.
3) I’m a experienced OR nurse, in this field for about 18 years. All I can comment is that the fitbone girl’s nail was implanted properly, reasonably. The issue actually arises from the implant failure.
4) lastly, I don’t work for Dr Singh. I just felt the need to comment fairly on this matter.
Thank you very much .
Since u care this much about defending him n his work ,maybe clear out how he misaligned bones on most patients who wrote in this forum n got the surgery with him since u did not mentioned that in your brilliant explanation and misalignments are entirely surgically skilled related .
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Hi I’m the manager in charge of precice in Singapore.
1) this patient, indeed used fitbone, reason being precice were not available in Singapore due to recall issue because of stryde. Which we are still not allowed to use.
2) this indeed is her standing picture. Why I know is because her friend who was implanted with precice, is staying with her in the same hote room which I visited them before. And by the way, her friend is doing well.
3) I’m a experienced OR nurse, in this field for about 18 years. All I can comment is that the fitbone girl’s nail was implanted properly, reasonably. The issue actually arises from the implant failure.
4) lastly, I don’t work for Dr Singh. I just felt the need to comment fairly on this matter.
If your are a manager, what gives you the right of violating the patient's privacy and medical secret? How do you know the implant was properly done or not if you "don't" even work for this doctor? One cannot argue anymore that the case is anonimous, there is already too much public information here and out about her. Only her is entitled to disclose information. If it's misinformation or defamation the doctor (and not you) should say just that, not anything else publicly and then go to court or make an agreement with the person involved.
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If your are a manager, what gives you the right of violating the patient's privacy and medical secret? How do you know the implant was properly done or not if you "don't" even work for this doctor? One cannot argue anymore that the case is anonimous, there is already too much public information here and out about her. Only her is entitled to disclose information. If it's misinformation or defamation the doctor (and not you) should say just that, not anything else publicly and then go to court or make an agreement with the person involved.
Maybe u like to clarify which part of my statement violate any privacy issue? And I was shown by the patient herself. That’s all. Let’s not to deviate. Privacy is violated, when u can identify the patient when I literally share infos like name n ID.
Again, I want to emphasize is that, if any patient think he or she got a case against the doctor, one could just go n engage a lawyer to fight the case. I’m also curious how this is going to play out
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Hi I’m the manager in charge of precice in Singapore.
1) this patient, indeed used fitbone, reason being precice were not available in Singapore due to recall issue because of stryde. Which we are still not allowed to use.
2) this indeed is her standing picture. Why I know is because her friend who was implanted with precice, is staying with her in the same hote room which I visited them before. And by the way, her friend is doing well.
3) I’m a experienced OR nurse, in this field for about 18 years. All I can comment is that the fitbone girl’s nail was implanted properly, reasonably. The issue actually arises from the implant failure.
4) lastly, I don’t work for Dr Singh. I just felt the need to comment fairly on this matter.
Her friend has precice? but u said precice is not available so how did her friend who’s living with her get precice, also Dr Sarb said the skin infection was faked is that true? since you visited her how was she? Is she still in a lot of pain like the article stated?
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Maybe u like to clarify which part of my statement violate any privacy issue? And I was shown by the patient herself. That’s all. Let’s not to deviate. Privacy is violated, when u can identify the patient when I literally share infos like name n ID.
Again, I want to emphasize is that, if any patient think he or she got a case against the doctor, one could just go n engage a lawyer to fight the case. I’m also curious how this is going to play out
"Thank you very much .
Since u care this much about defending him n his work ,maybe clear out how he misaligned bones on most patients who wrote in this forum n got the surgery with him since u did not mentioned that in your brilliant explanation and misalignments are entirely surgically skilled related" .
Maybe u forgot to answear but as I stated before , xrays on this forum showed misalignments on this doctor patients .
Can you clarify that too since you answering to everything but this ?!
When a doctor is not good , best would be to shut up at least n not to come here n blame patients because he is not a good CLL doctor with few cases and almost all of them had some kind of complaints.
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Maybe u like to clarify which part of my statement violate any privacy issue? And I was shown by the patient herself. That’s all. Let’s not to deviate. Privacy is violated, when u can identify the patient when I literally share infos like name n ID.
Again, I want to emphasize is that, if any patient think he or she got a case against the doctor, one could just go n engage a lawyer to fight the case. I’m also curious how this is going to play out
Please be honest. Formal ID and name are not the only way to disclose identity. All public information now circulating for which you are contributing, will easily identify her in closest circles of other patients, clerical staff, friends, neighbours, etc. and then spread.
Plus, why are you really doing this? If you have a case to defend the doctor and he is at no fault, just disclose your interest and explain briefly the problem using simple technical impersonal language without refering anyone else (besides you and the doctor).
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Her friend has precice? but u said precice is not available so how did her friend who’s living with her get precice, also Dr Sarb said the skin infection was faked is that true? since you visited her how was she? Is she still in a lot of pain like the article stated?
Precice came back on end of November. Regarding that skin infection issue, I didn’t see her wound so I can’t comment more. Limb lengthening is a major surgery, with the bone being broken and being distracted, and also, not forgetting the nerves and muscle are being pulled literally. Im pretty sure u will still feel pain. Also everyone’s pain threshold is different.
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"Thank you very much .
Since u care this much about defending him n his work ,maybe clear out how he misaligned bones on most patients who wrote in this forum n got the surgery with him since u did not mentioned that in your brilliant explanation and misalignments are entirely surgically skilled related" .
Maybe u forgot to answear but as I stated before , xrays on this forum showed misalignments on this doctor patients .
Can you clarify that too since you answering to everything but this ?!
When a doctor is not good , best would be to shut up at least n not to come here n blame patients because he is not a good CLL doctor with few cases and almost all of them had some kind of complaints.
I’m starting to think that u suspect I’m someone sent by Dr Sarbjit. But anyway, I can only comment, in general terms, for this case only. And I feel it’s pretty aligned. I can only say the fitbone rep agreed with me on this. Maybe someone can post some of the X-ray pics here to have a meaningful discussion.
Further more, I’m just commenting from implant rep point of view.
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Please be honest. Formal ID and name are not the only way to disclose identity. All public information now circulating for which you are contributing, will easily identify her in closest circles of other patients, clerical staff, friends, neighbours, etc. and then spread.
Plus, why are you really doing this? If you have a case to defend the doctor and he is at no fault, just disclose your interest and explain briefly the problem using simple technical impersonal language without refering anyone else (besides you and the doctor).
Thanks for the advice. I’m going through my post again. I’m pretty sure what I wrote.
U want me to explain in simple terms, I can. The simple reason is implant failure.
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Anyway my main aim to comment is to look at this case from a wider angle. If patient do think a doctor really f up his or her case, you should just get lawyer to sue the out of him, rather than contacting media and stuff. I meant, this can be a slandering case, if things turned ugly.
I’m on good talking terms with both. So guys, there’s no need to point your guns on me. I’m hoping for this case to resolve amicably.
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Anyway my main aim to comment is to look at this case from a wider angle. If patient do think a doctor really f up his or her case, you should just get lawyer to sue the out of him, rather than contacting media and stuff. I meant, this can be a slandering case, if things turned ugly.
I’m on good talking terms with both. So guys, there’s no need to point your guns on me. I’m hoping for this case to resolve amicably.
how come all your posts on this forum are just defending Dr Sarb? even from years ago. u dont use this forum at all but just to defend Dr Sarb?
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how come all your posts on this forum are just defending Dr Sarb? even from years ago. u dont use this forum at all but just to defend Dr Sarb?
Its literally him or someone who works with him .
He is a bad doctor for CLL , PERIOD .
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I don't understand this non ethical and bad marketing tactics.
Why doesn't him, or "her"/her or they, don't just assume identities or disclaim interests, as Dr. Guichet did, reveal the limited generic information they can, announce going to the court and then just go (or make an agreement with the patient)?
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how come all your posts on this forum are just defending Dr Sarb? even from years ago. u dont use this forum at all but just to defend Dr Sarb?
Because I’m not who need my limbs to be lengthened, so there’s no need me to search for limb lengthening related issues. I’m literally got recommended to come in n have a look, due to my work.
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I'm one of the patients who did lengthening with Sarbit Singh. You can search my previous posts, its all on there. My advice is to go elsewhere but if you don't want to fly, up to you. Take your chances and cross your fingers.
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I'm one of the patients who did lengthening with Sarbit Singh. You can search my previous posts, its all on there. My advice is to go elsewhere but if you don't want to fly, up to you. Take your chances and cross your fingers.
tbh your situation is quite rare, not many other people who go to dr sarb suffered same as u from what ive been reading
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tbh your situation is quite rare, not many other people who go to dr sarb suffered same as u from what ive been reading
Let us say you have heard about 5 cases. 4 good. 1 bad (as from above poster). So known success rate is 20%? Is that OK with you?
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Let us say you have heard about 5 cases. 4 good. 1 bad (as from above poster). So known success rate is 20%? Is that OK with you?
Jake24 - you should go and consult Dr.Sarbjit and then make your own judgment.
WE are not doctor here so whatever feedback is based on our experiences, emotion and situation.
You should also consult other doctors from overseas to make a comparison.
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tbh your situation is quite rare, not many other people who go to dr sarb suffered same as u from what ive been reading
This is marathonrunner, having some trouble logging into my account so gotta use my friends.
Rare situation, sure you can call it that, but doctor lied about there actually being an infection. He kept insisting there was no infection even though I went through a second surgery with him because of visual confirmation of an infection. That isn't honest or ethical, and not only that, it was dangerous. Infections are no joke. That deep bone infection one of the hardest things my body had to overcome. You can literally feel the pain from that infection and you're wondering "what the heck is that" while the doctor is telling you "no infection no infection, don't listen to other doctors, they are lying".
First of all I was told by him don't trust the forums its a bunch of bs. But forum memebers who have gone through this type of experience can at least give some insight. Second of all he kept saying the diagnosis of other doctors were wrong and there was no infection when in fact there was (and he saw it from the second surgery). My bone had melted from the inside out by the time I saw Dr Lee. I have a photo of it from Dr Lee but its in a cd.. and when I saw what was on the cd there was a lot of photos of xrays and other stuff all numbered.. I never went through the whole cd to find that 1 photo cause it means I need to go 1 by 1 check each photo and see if its the one I want since the file titles are numbers not descriptions. And honestly, what computer uses cd nowadays -_-
But just FYI, not getting an infection is the most basic thing for a doctor to not do. HOW the surgery is done, HOW the instruments get drilled in, HOW your bone gets cut, WHERE it gets cut, HOW your skin gets stitched up, HOW you recover, HOW you heal, HOW you go through the process of lengthening, ALL OF THIS and more is just as important. Its a big surgery. Not getting an infection should be a given...
I can tell you this, SKILL WISE Dr Lee blows Dr Singh out of the water. You know.. because of the screws Singh used, because of how he drilled into my bone, because of how he tried to drill a screw to fix the tibia and fibula... I still have a piece of broken nail stuck in there which I still have not gotten out and whenever I do heavy exercises like jumping with weights.. I can feel in that area pain because of that stupid broken nail. Also there were alignment issues as well. Feel free to read my previous posts... theres a lot of info there.
And you know what Singh told me before surgery? "who cares about the fibula, even if the fibula does not connect together from the distraction who cares, we doctors only care about the tibia" Which is opposite of what Dr Lee told me. Dr Lee said fibula is just as important it provides balance and both should distracted the same and connected with bone growth.
Uh... should have known that was a red flag.
You do what you want to do. All I can do is give you my experience and back that experience up with photos, xrays, emails, and other doctor's opinions / xrays / photos (Dr Lee).
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I think we have given enough feedback to JAKE24
He should go and do his own research and decide himself.
It is always good to consult few LL doctors for opinions!
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This is marathonrunner, having some trouble logging into my account so gotta use my friends.
Rare situation, sure you can call it that, but doctor lied about there actually being an infection. He kept insisting there was no infection even though I went through a second surgery with him because of visual confirmation of an infection. That isn't honest or ethical, and not only that, it was dangerous. Infections are no joke. That deep bone infection one of the hardest things my body had to overcome. You can literally feel the pain from that infection and you're wondering "what the heck is that" while the doctor is telling you "no infection no infection, don't listen to other doctors, they are lying".
First of all I was told by him don't trust the forums its a bunch of bs. But forum memebers who have gone through this type of experience can at least give some insight. Second of all he kept saying the diagnosis of other doctors were wrong and there was no infection when in fact there was (and he saw it from the second surgery). My bone had melted from the inside out by the time I saw Dr Lee. I have a photo of it from Dr Lee but its in a cd.. and when I saw what was on the cd there was a lot of photos of xrays and other stuff all numbered.. I never went through the whole cd to find that 1 photo cause it means I need to go 1 by 1 check each photo and see if its the one I want since the file titles are numbers not descriptions. And honestly, what computer uses cd nowadays -_-
But just FYI, not getting an infection is the most basic thing for a doctor to not do. HOW the surgery is done, HOW the instruments get drilled in, HOW your bone gets cut, WHERE it gets cut, HOW your skin gets stitched up, HOW you recover, HOW you heal, HOW you go through the process of lengthening, ALL OF THIS and more is just as important. Its a big surgery. Not getting an infection should be a given...
I can tell you this, SKILL WISE Dr Lee blows Dr Singh out of the water. You know.. because of the screws Singh used, because of how he drilled into my bone, because of how he tried to drill a screw to fix the tibia and fibula... I still have a piece of broken nail stuck in there which I still have not gotten out and whenever I do heavy exercises like jumping with weights.. I can feel in that area pain because of that stupid broken nail. Also there were alignment issues as well. Feel free to read my previous posts... theres a lot of info there.
And you know what Singh told me before surgery? "who cares about the fibula, even if the fibula does not connect together from the distraction who cares, we doctors only care about the tibia" Which is opposite of what Dr Lee told me. Dr Lee said fibula is just as important it provides balance and both should distracted the same and connected with bone growth.
Uh... should have known that was a red flag.
You do what you want to do. All I can do is give you my experience and back that experience up with photos, xrays, emails, and other doctor's opinions / xrays / photos (Dr Lee).
did you ever meet up with Dr Singh after what happened? Or attempt to sue or consult him because it’s very serious and the amount of money wasted is really no joke
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did you ever meet up with Dr Singh after what happened? Or attempt to sue or consult him because it’s very serious and the amount of money wasted is really no joke
Its in my previous posts, 2nd surgery I flew to Myanmar where Singh also practices. He helped cover surgery fees which I will give him credit for, I paid for the rest incl flight and stay. But the infection was visible from the outside, none of the doctors I saw in Bangkok (where I was working at the time) would even come close because they know the infection 99% had reached the metal and if they had "cleaned it" they would be liable and no doctor wants to be liable for another doctor's mistake. When bacteria touches the metal its game over, you gotta take out the instruments in there.
So 2nd surgery, he "cleans out" the swollen infected area and he kept telling me "no infection no infection" that was the worst part. Because even tho it got cleaned out, the bacteria is there and it will grow. I was on antibiotics forever and really strong ones at that, it totally messed with my health. It was hurting and I kept telling Singh.. this feels weird, this feels weird, and the kept saying "no infection, its all in my head" it wasnt until I was in enough pain that I went to Korea that I knew.. fk.. this is fking serious.
Can I sue him? Probably but I signed the document saying he's not liable since its a cosmetic surgery. All doctors make you sign those before surgery. So suing would be costly and hard to win. Did I report him? I tried to the health ministry in Singapore but that requires a lot of time, I probably need to fly there in person, and a lot of digging on my part of evidence. And even then I need to be able to prove fault which is so hard because 1. I signed all those documents and 2. whatever was done / seen in those surgery rooms such as my 2nd surgery in Myanmar isn't captured on camera, nor is it documented because the doctor can lie about it. So.. so hard to fight it.
And fixing it is no joke. With the money I spent I could have pretty much done stryde in my femurs as well.
So up to you, you make your decision. I can only give you my experience. But my health was affected (both mentally and physically), I spent almost double of what I was going to spend because I had to fix these issues, I spent so much time as well, more than the average person doing the same surgery at Dr Lees.
So time, money, health, all depleted because of this situation. So now I am a big believer that not all doctor's are the same. Actually there is a huge huge variance in doctor skill level.
Think about it this way, you've seen those botched surgeries of rhinoplasties gone wrong? Or those horror stories of some cosmetic surgery gone wrong? Why is it? Because they went to those less experienced less knowledgeable, still trying to hone their craft on new patients, kind of doctors, because it is cheaper.
Now compare that to some of your friends or celebrities in Singapore. I bet you some of them have had plastic surgery but you won't even know given how natural, how well the doctor did it.
I will be completely honest, I had surgery done once before in Korea. And the doctor did such a fking good job no one knew, not even my parents or my relatives or people that I have known my whole life. Everyone except my sister haha cause shes a surgeon herself, but even she was questioning whether something was different or not.
This was because I visited 20-30 different clinics just for that 1 simple surgery because I know how important doctor skill level is now. I've learned my lesson to thoroughly vet doctors before a surgery now. Because its their hands, their knowledge, their skill level that determines the outcome of your surgery.