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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: sixfootandhalf on August 22, 2022, 07:05:50 PM

Title: Terrified of non-Union
Post by: sixfootandhalf on August 22, 2022, 07:05:50 PM
I am going to be consulting with the following surgeons soon: Paley, Lee, and Parihar, and Betz 

My concern is the following:

I have been informed from one of the above, who uses a weight bearing nail, that they have only had 4-5 non-unions in the last 20 years, and the risk of non-union is higher for Tibias than Femurs.

Theoretically speaking, if i was 175.5cm tall, and was lengthening femurs by 7cm, using a weight bearing nail, as someone in their 20s...

How could i mitigate the risks of non-union? What if i took X-rays more frequently?

What would i need to ask the surgeons about to mitigate this risk?
Title: Re: Terrified of non-Union
Post by: Dirona on August 24, 2022, 05:25:46 PM
The osteotomy technique in addition to your nutrition/moving about plays a big role. Please ask each of the doctor you are considering the osteotomy technique that they would be employing to prevent non-union.. Dr Lee has a very high success rate
Title: Re: Terrified of non-Union
Post by: sixfootandhalf on August 24, 2022, 05:33:12 PM
thank you for the reply - what do you mean by osteotomy technique?
Title: Re: Terrified of non-Union
Post by: TheDream on August 24, 2022, 09:43:17 PM
Never heard of a non union happening in the Femurs.
Title: Re: Terrified of non-Union
Post by: boklecrt on August 25, 2022, 12:36:42 AM
Never heard of a non union happening in the Femurs.

yeah ok professor

The osteotomy technique in addition to your nutrition/moving about plays a big role. Please ask each of the doctor you are considering the osteotomy technique that they would be employing to prevent non-union.. Dr Lee has a very high success rate

he means that some doctors absolutely shatter your bones when they break it in the surgery, leaving you a bunch of little bone pieces hanging in there creating a massive unnecessary additional trauma:

 (https://s8d5.turboimg.net/t1/79435935_xray8.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/79435935/xray8.jpg.html) (https://s8d5.turboimg.net/t1/79435937_xray9.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/79435937/xray9.jpg.html)


while other doctors are super precise and slowly and methodically knock on the bone with a chisel and produce a very clean break:

 (https://s8d3.turboimg.net/t1/79435951_xray7.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/79435951/xray7.jpg.html)

good doctor's osteotomies look perfect like if cut with a reciprocating bone saw - to be noted however that in LL we do not do osteotomies with a bone saw, because the clean cut would not produce the required body response, develop a blood clot and callus

bone saws are used for amputations

EDIT: changed chain saw to bone saw LOL chainsaws for amputations are used only in the horror movies!
Title: Re: Terrified of non-Union
Post by: Michael J. Assayag, MD on August 31, 2022, 03:53:06 PM
Technically an oblique osteotomy is one of the best a patient can get as it increases bone to bone contact.

The problem in this first set of x-ray is the varus deformity.

However you are correct that osteotomy technique is very important
Title: Re: Terrified of non-Union
Post by: boklecrt on August 31, 2022, 05:02:18 PM
Technically an oblique osteotomy is one of the best a patient can get as it increases bone to bone contact.

The problem in this first set of x-ray is the varus deformity.

However you are correct that osteotomy technique is very important

Thank you for clarifying Dr Assayag, i always thought the first type of osteotomy was just shoddy workmanship but I guess it does make sense that a bigger surface area would provide a better adhesion.

The second type of osteotomy looks aesthetically better however with the lack of bone shards in there.

And youre right, there is a deformity, again if you notice the nail has been inserted at the tip instead of the piriformis
Title: Re: Terrified of non-Union
Post by: Dirona on September 06, 2022, 08:30:44 AM
Technically an oblique osteotomy is one of the best a patient can get as it increases bone to bone contact.

The problem in this first set of x-ray is the varus deformity.

However you are correct that osteotomy technique is very important
@Dr Assayag..

There are 2 components to prevent non-union right?

1. Patient component - no smoking, follow right amount of lengthening, vitamin D supplements, moving about carefully, no comorbidities like diabetes etc
2. Surgeon's component - right osteotomy technique, not allowing the patient to lengthen too much

Am I missing something that is important? I am really scared of non-union. If non - union does occur in femur, what is the success rate of it being treated?