Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: shortisnotfun on September 18, 2022, 08:20:06 AM
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I was looking at LLT diaries on Twitter and stumbled upon a post from this user:
I'm not gonna post his Twitter but you can search it up and see it if you do enough looking
I think he completed LON Tibia a couple of months ago and now has osteomyelitis. He completed lengthening in July, and was in the hospital afterwards to treat pus coming out of his wounds? It's in Japanese so it's all translated. Then he flew back to Japan.
I think he's not in a good condition because no Japanese doctor will see him or specializes in it. Praying for his full recovery.
https://imgur.com/gallery/hmhs7d2
https://imgur.com/a/aDj5dxc
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Whenever I read anyone considering going to Turkey for surgery I pray for them.
I know someone personally who went there for hair transplant as well. Now their head is full of scars and the results aren’t natural.
I don’t think you should go there for any medical tourism.
LiveLifeTaller is just the most rotten of many bad apples there.
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If you try to do 3 surgeries in a day obviously you'll do a mistake and your patients will suffer heavly from this mistake as like this and his many other. I guess there are so many other patients who has problems like these but they feel ashamed to show it to public or threatened by LiveLifeTaller. Why would you still choose butcher Halil after so many complication cases?
https://twitter.com/height_llt/status/1571187368446799877?s=46&t=JmTq2tymDP1Sp8jFs96iUQ (https://twitter.com/height_llt/status/1571187368446799877?s=46&t=JmTq2tymDP1Sp8jFs96iUQ)
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They did it again!!! The butchers from Turkey! I hate them!
I hope Victor (Cyborg4Life) will address this issue in one of his youtube videos!
TURKEY IS A NO GO FOR LL PATIENTS!!!!
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I guess there are so many other patients who has problems like these but they feel ashamed to show it to public
I think these Turkish butchers have focussed on Japanese patients because they're aware of their traditional mentality. In Japan, it is considered a supreme virtue to conceal feelings and by no means to open up to the outside world how one really feels. A person who acts particularly emotionally or shows anger, fear, or other feelings in public loses face and causes others to lose face who do not know how to deal with the emotional outbursts.
There are probably hundreds of LL patients with serious complications caused by this butcher. But they'll never say a word!
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They did it again!!! The butchers from Turkey! I hate them!
I hope Victor (Cyborg4Life) will address this issue in one of his youtube videos!
TURKEY IS A NO GO FOR LL PATIENTS!!!!
I think it is wrong to generalize. Maybe there are good surgeons aswell in turkey but all we see is these failed cases over and over again. People must pay attention to who to go for their surgeries not just Turkey but every countries, because this surgery does not tolerate a single mistake. In my opinion if a company or surgeon pushing advertisement alot you should think twice. Can you see any advertisement from Dr Rozburch? Or Dr Paley? No because they don't need to advertise their work. But for example Dr Debiparshad invests advertisement a lot in both google and facebook which is a red flag also because i feel like he is in this not because he like to do surgery but for the money.
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How could they let this happen? Isn't it routine to give out strong IV antibiotics right away when there is suspicion of an internal infection? How the fk can a nurse let it progress to this level?
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I kind of suspect that their nurses may not really know how to distinguish and treat infections, so much so that when I had a lot of pus coming out of my wound, their nurses told me it was probably due to the thick gauze I was wearing on the wound.
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How could they let this happen? Isn't it routine to give out strong IV antibiotics right away when there is suspicion of an internal infection? How the fk can a nurse let it progress to this level?
The nurses there are unprofessional! They didn't go to university. The doctor taught them how to change bandages, that's why they can't detect an infection in time and of course they don't know how to treat it...
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The nurses there are unprofessional! They didn't go to university. The doctor taught them how to change bandages, that's why they can't detect an infection in time and of course they don't know how to treat it...
That is a big issue because osteomyelitis is extremely difficult to recover from and if you are not from the USA or Europe, doctors may not be able to treat you properly.
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That is a big issue because osteomyelitis is extremely difficult to recover from and if you are not from the USA or Europe, doctors may not be able to treat you properly.
I heard early osteomyelitis is very curable with device removal + 6 weeks of antibiotics?
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I heard early osteomyelitis is very curable with device removal + 6 weeks of antibiotics?
I'm not a doctor. I'm not sure. But either way osteomyelitis is very serious.
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Jesus.. praying for that patient. I don't quite understand the xray in the 2nd pic, what does it show?
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Currently he had a surgery in japan for osteomyelitis.
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Currently he had a surgery in japan for osteomyelitis.
Do you have the link to that information.
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Do you have the link to that information.
He is constantly tweeting about it.
https://twitter.com/height_llt?s=21&t=v0S-sZGlDIxyHPO1ZRGtHg
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LLT has many cases of major or minor infections. I think they are caused by the use of rusty stents or reused and unsterilized intramedullary nails.
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He is constantly tweeting about it.
https://twitter.com/height_llt?s=21&t=v0S-sZGlDIxyHPO1ZRGtHg
He seems to still have fantasies and gratitude for LLT.
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He seems to still have fantasies and gratitude for LLT.
definitely Stockholm syndrome
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He seems to still have fantasies and gratitude for LLT.
Did LLT do anything to fix his infection? Or did they just abandon him?
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definitely Stockholm syndrome
This is his original words.
"俺は正直今も、LLTの施設に行ってトゥーバやセダット、クランさんにお礼言いたかったなぁ" ( To be honest, even now, I wanted to go to the LLT facility and say thank you to Tuba, Sedat, and Clan-san.)
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Did LLT do anything to fix his infection? Or did they just abandon him?
He still thought it was a better decision to stay in Turkey for treatment, but people close to him suggested he return to Japan for treatment.
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definitely Stockholm syndrome
100% Stockholm. Also there are so many LLT promoter accounts in twitter to twist peoples thoughts, so they are abusing Japanese people's herd psychology. Japanese people has a tendency to follow the community, does not matter where it leads to. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ . So he do not wish to say bad things while everyone around him tells opposite.
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Sometimes it annoys me that Japanese people are too nice. They need to understand that when they go aboard they can't apply that peaceful mindset among other foreigners. And when it came to terribly bad people (like LLT) it became outrageous deceit and exploitation.
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I am following this japanese patient since i heard about him.
Its been a month since he started to treat his legs and no improvement.
I guess they are planning to amputate his legs. :-\
Its just sad :(
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I think it is wrong to generalize. Maybe there are good surgeons aswell in turkey but all we see is these failed cases over and over again. People must pay attention to who to go for their surgeries not just Turkey but every countries, because this surgery does not tolerate a single mistake. In my opinion if a company or surgeon pushing advertisement alot you should think twice. Can you see any advertisement from Dr Rozburch? Or Dr Paley? No because they don't need to advertise their work. But for example Dr Debiparshad invests advertisement a lot in both google and facebook which is a red flag also because i feel like he is in this not because he like to do surgery but for the money.
''because i feel like he is in this not because he like to do surgery but for the money.'''
No mate, these doctors studied for 10+ years because they enjoy breaking people's legs and not because they wanna earn a living. I won't even blame the turkish butchers because the retards that wanna spare 20k and go to them are the ones to blame.
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I am following this japanese patient since i heard about him.
Its been a month since he started to treat his legs and no improvement.
I guess they are planning to amputate his legs. :-\
Its just sad :(
oh my god really?
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so it is confirmed to amputate the legs?
Or it was jus your guessing
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I am following this japanese patient since i heard about him.
Its been a month since he started to treat his legs and no improvement.
I guess they are planning to amputate his legs. :-\
Its just sad :(
OMG!! I'm praying for him! Is he on Twitter?
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I’m quite newbie here but I want to share you guys this poor Japanese condition.
He is still hospitalized in Japanese hospital and receiving treatment.
He and his doctor trying to avoid amputation, however, his treatment progress is not good since there are still possibility to amputate his leg.
I’m done, why Japanese people don’t speak out, fight for him ?
They remain silent, nay, they still try to get surgery at Live life taller, WTF.
I tried to them to stop going Livelifetaller but they don’t listen, poor people.
I’m so sorry for Hasaki and every people shared their horrible experience with Live life taller.
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I’m quite newbie here but I want to share you guys this poor Japanese condition.
He is still hospitalized in Japanese hospital and receiving treatment.
He and his doctor trying to avoid amputation, however, his treatment progress is not good since there are still possibility to amputate his leg.
I’m done, why Japanese people don’t speak out, fight for him ?
They remain silent, nay, they still try to get surgery at Live life taller, WTF.
I tried to them to stop going Livelifetaller but they don’t listen, poor people.
I’m so sorry for Hasaki and every people shared their horrible experience with Live life taller.
I found out that he expects a lot from livelifetaller and he even thinks that having the surgery in Turkey is the best option.
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One thing that is unique is that there are many institutions that do this procedure and their cases have complications, but none of them have severe infections in multiple cases like livelifetaller, as well as widespread minor infections.
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TRUE.
Japanese promoter called “SAMURAI” manage closed SNS for Japanese potential patients.
As you guys know we Japanese are not good at English so he manipulates Japanese and send them to LLT with no mercy or compassion.
I have joined his SNS and posted your experience with LLT then he banned my account and deleted all my post, and moreover, banned a lots of members who show their feel sorry for you.
I’ll definitely drug SAMURAI out but I’m done with Japanese who still close with him.
IDC no matter what happens, it’s their choice.
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These Japanese doctors have no idea what they are doing. IV antibiotics alone will rarely cure a deep bone infection that severe. This guy needs to get the infected nail removed, then insert a BROAD spectrum antibiotic cement coated nail in to get rid of the infection the infection.
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Does he have a gofundme page? I really would like to help him financially.
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These Japanese doctors have no idea what they are doing. IV antibiotics alone will rarely cure a deep bone infection that severe. This guy needs to get the infected nail removed, then insert a BROAD spectrum antibiotic cement coated nail in to get rid of the infection the infection.
Yes, this is the treatment I am currently receiving for osteomyelitis.
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Yes, this is the treatment I am currently receiving for osteomyelitis.
Did your doctor tell you about the success rate of this treatment?
All the best!
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Did your doctor tell you about the success rate of this treatment?
All the best!
Its usually very successful because the cemented nail will leach out antibiotics at insanely high doses right were the infection is. As along as the bone is mostly alive it can be salvaged. (Mangal Parihar has quite a few of these cases on his website, you should check them out if you are interested)
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These Japanese doctors have no idea what they are doing. IV antibiotics alone will rarely cure a deep bone infection that severe. This guy needs to get the infected nail removed, then insert a BROAD spectrum antibiotic cement coated nail in to get rid of the infection the infection.
I have no knowledge of treatment for osteomyelitis nor medical standard in Japan so I can’t tell, however, his doctor has a plan to remove the infected nail accoriding to his tweet. Here is another terrible story starts, a Japanese promoter of LLT says “LLT use the original nail, which is have been developed uniquely by us and its patent has been applied for now”. Then he have been tried to receive the equipment to remove their SPECIAL nail from LLT for some weeks?, I’m not sure, but he finally found their SPECIAL nail was Smith & Nephew :o If LLT or promoter didn’t’ lie to their patient with very serious condition, his recovery process might be much easier.
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Does he have a gofundme page? I really would like to help him financially.
He actually had tried to stat crowdfunding but he gave up soon. I don’t know the reason but it might be his privacy matters or something. He is in a state of near mental collapse now, he might not be able to afford to do anything. He probably wants to focus on his treatment for now.
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I have no knowledge of treatment for osteomyelitis nor medical standard in Japan so I can’t tell, however, his doctor has a plan to remove the infected nail accoriding to his tweet. Here is another the terrible story starts, a Japanese promoter of LLT says “LLT use the original nail, which is have been developed uniquely by us and its patent has been applied for now”. Then he have been tried to receive the equipment to remove their SPECIAL nail from LLT for some weeks?, I’m not sure, but he finally found their SPECIAL nail was Smith & Nephew :o If LLT or promoter didn’t’ lie to their patient with very serious condition, his recovery process might be much easier.
So had the Japanese doctors knew that is was a general Smith & Nephew nail, they would have removed it 2 month ago? Now the guy's life is ruined by hospital bills. Stuff like this makes me so mad to be honest.
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So had the Japanese doctors knew that is was a general Smith & Nephew nail, they would have removed it 2 month ago? Now the guy's life is ruined by hospital bills. Stuff like this makes me so mad to be honest.
I’m not sure coz he doesn’t speak much about his treatment. However, he posted his tweet with X-ray image on 25th Aug like “My doctor said that I am not specialized in Limb Lengthening, but X-ray shows your bone seems to be well consolidated then it might be possible to remove those nails in a few surgeries”.
In Japan, we have universal public insurance system since I believe he doesn’t pay ridiculous medical expenses. Our insurance system doesn’t cover any complications caused by cosmetic procedures but his condition is quite serious so his doctor might allow him to use insurance, IMO.
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I'm quite curious why LLT never treat any infections?
I know osteomyelitis is the one of major complications, also, if a patient could get proper treatment in the early stages, it’s curable, right?
ALL EX-PATIENT HERE with infections knew their symptoms and certain signs of infections. Why they desegrated? They just gave their patient some antibiotics and kicked out their facility.
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I'm quite curious why LLT never treat any infections?
I know osteomyelitis is the one of major complications, also, if a patient could get proper treatment in the early stages, it’s curable, right?
ALL EX-PATIENT HERE with infections knew their symptoms and certain signs of infections. Why they desegrated? They just gave their patient some antibiotics and kicked out their facility.
Are you one of their clients. My case is even more ridiculous than you guys, they claimed I didn't have any infection and therefore didn't even give me antibiotics .
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No, I’m not. I've heard from Japanese ex-patient that he could see Dr. Buldu only a few times. Sedat and LLT nurses might involve the medical treatment without doctor’s order. I believe this is illegal in even Turkey.
And, I wanna show you something, this is Japanese ex-patient diary.
“I was so scared. A new nurse touched my bandage on external fixator and wound area WITH HER BARE HANDS. I’m worry about infections coz I choose LON so I spend every day very carefully.”
https://imgur.com/a/lyrzGjV
How could they blame you on twitter like “He touched his bandage, bla bla bla.”
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nasty shyte.
did he end up legless?
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nasty shyte.
did he end up legless?
He'll get surgery for nail removal this week.
His doctor have been trying to avoide amputation but only God knows it would be success or not.