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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: SpeedDialer on October 18, 2022, 11:13:14 PM
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So I think medium (the mod) pointed this out:
-> If you get tattoos on your legs, you might want to get some on your upper body to balance it out (might look odd to just have tattoos on legs)
1. Where are some good places to get the tattoos on the upper body that can still be easily concealed with clothing? Some professional situations are not good to have visible tattoos
2. So I guess you just need to avoid the hands/wrists/neck/ anywhere else?
3. Where position wise do you think might be good to balance out the leg tattoos visually?
4. What kinds of tattoos look not as bad as you get older/wrinkled/etc?
Thanks!!
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1. Chest and back.
2. Yes.
3. See #1
4. Tribals
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1. Chest and back.
2. Yes.
3. See #1
4. Tribals
Thanks. Tribals - like these? https://i.pinimg.com/736x/db/52/b2/db52b282b1751f88753e854f949c2d2c--forearm-tattoos-for-men-tribal-tattoos-for-men.jpg
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1. Chest and back.
2. Yes.
3. See #1
4. Tribals
Curious, what are your thoughts on just going for one chest tattoo to balance out the legs and ignoring the back entirely? Unsure if it will look imbalanced to have nothing on the back
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Yeah, tribals like that will hold up the best.
I think it would be balanced if you place the upper body tattoos vertically, e.g. tattoos on the outer thigh could correspond with tattoos on the side of the torso. Maybe even link them going up from the legs?
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Yeah, tribals like that will hold up the best.
I think it would be balanced if you place the upper body tattoos vertically, e.g. tattoos on the outer thigh could correspond with tattoos on the side of the torso. Maybe even link them going up from the legs?
Yeah it sounds good, I'm sort of torn between tribals (which seem 'natural' or 'done before and not out of place' in a sense that tribal people would have them on themselves). Versus a more flower/vine/leaves approach. Mainly, I am trying to avoid a certain 'gang'-like look but I am not sure if flower/vine/leaves is really the answer or not
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Just get skin color matching tattoos
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Just get skin color matching tattoos
Maybe medium of drink of water could chime in, he went a different route after alot of research
What about this below though?
https://www.ink-illusion.com › faq › can-scars-be-camo...
"Jan 3, 2021 — Your scar(s) need to be lighter than the surrounding skin to be able to have tattooing. This is because lighter ink will not satisfactorily ..."
There's no way my scars will be lighter than my skin color
Maybe some darker skinned people can do this? I don't know
Almost all pictures I've seen of skin color tattoos working was for when the scar was flat-ish and whitish colored, anyone with experience with this wanna chime in?
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I honestly think laser is the best option and then you just need to hope you scar well (your incisions turn white). Stay out of the sun. There have been people on here with good results. Getting the texture to match the surrounding area goes a long way.
btw for tattoos if you go that direction, theres also "temporary tatoos" for scars. They last for a few years and then dissolve away.
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I honestly think laser is the best option and then you just need to hope you scar well (your incisions turn white). Stay out of the sun. There have been people on here with good results. Getting the texture to match the surrounding area goes a long way.
oh hm... am I understanding right so you would do laser followed by skin colored tattoo?
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I would probably only want a temp tattoo right after surgery if it could cover up the scars. But now that I think about it, probably wont work and it might make the healing process worse. Ill probably just let them heal with time and then get laser.
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Yeah it sounds good, I'm sort of torn between tribals (which seem 'natural' or 'done before and not out of place' in a sense that tribal people would have them on themselves). Versus a more flower/vine/leaves approach. Mainly, I am trying to avoid a certain 'gang'-like look but I am not sure if flower/vine/leaves is really the answer or not
That is definitely not the answer. That stuff is for girls and it won't make a good cover-up since it'll be all curvy. Your scars are going to be linear, and you'll want the artist to put linework over them as opposed to shading. A geometric tattoo design would make a better cover-up but they don't stand the test of time as well as tribals. Maybe a geometric tribal or abstract geometric stained glass design?
You won't look like a gang member if you have tribals, you'll look like a frat boy d-bag.
I'm not familiar with femur LL scars or skin-color tattooing.
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That is definitely not the answer. That stuff is for girls and it won't make a good cover-up since it'll be all curvy. Your scars are going to be linear, and you'll want the artist to put linework over them as opposed to shading. A geometric tattoo design would make a better cover-up but they don't stand the test of time as well as tribals. Maybe a geometric tribal or abstract geometric stained glass design?
You won't look like a gang member if you have tribals, you'll look like a frat boy d-bag.
I'm not familiar with femur LL scars or skin-color tattooing.
Are you happy with the tattoos you got? Ex: would you change anything, don't have to go into specifics if it is uncomfortable
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They're good.
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For dating, I still see a small problem. I am just sort of thinking let's say someone gets internals for femurs and tibias and then gets tattoos on them to conceal them and then goes on a date
The problem is that some of the scars will be somewhat raised (I have some small linear scars that sort of like have a small raised bump under them) and someone on a date could feel that bump
What would you say if someone felt that bump under the scar/tattoo?
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Medium had Lon if I'm not mistaken. His scars are going to be way more visable than internals so thats probably why he went with tattoos. Ideally your scars will just be thin white lines and if not revision surgery and laser could get you there. Id be really careful with awkward random tattoos because its going to make you look worse.
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Thin white lines that are obviously surgical in nature are still worth covering up, in my opinion.
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For dating, I still see a small problem. I am just sort of thinking let's say someone gets internals for femurs and tibias and then gets tattoos on them to conceal them and then goes on a date
The problem is that some of the scars will be somewhat raised (I have some small linear scars that sort of like have a small raised bump under them) and someone on a date could feel that bump
What would you say if someone felt that bump under the scar/tattoo?
Best to get the scar to be flat before tattooing.
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Do you think laser can cover them up? Or are tattoos really the only way.
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Best to get the scar to be flat before tattooing.
What kind of doctors and procedures would you look into?
I have some linear femur LL scars that have small bumps under the linear scars.
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You just got those scars though, right? Wait for them to settle.
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Do you think laser can cover them up? Or are tattoos really the only way.
Laser won't cover up anything. It can lighten and smooth out scars.
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honestly
you should only get tattoos that you like
take some time to think of designs or symbols that have any meaning to you and if you vibe with it then get it
DO NOT get a tribal tattoo despite what MDOW said none have stood the test of time and all look cringe.
(there are exceptions like maori/kirituhi tatoos)
also DO NOT get a "skin colored tattoo" to color in your scar, i feel like dont need to explain the ridiculousness of that
as for positioning its you can get wherever, i think that a pec + shoulder combo looks good IMO
if you are really concerned about the scars, you should focus on:
staying sunsmart. do not expose your scars to any sun for 6-8months AFTER you get your nails out. uv exposure can lead to hyperpigmentation.
save up for a plastic surgeon to just correct your scars. it honestly would be cheaper that spending thousands on tattoos
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save up for a plastic surgeon to just correct your scars. it honestly would be cheaper that spending thousands on tattoos
Right. But the question is: can a plastic surgeon truly make the scars back to not noticeable by someone on a date touching/seeing your legs in bed?
And medium drink of water (? I think) had some scar reduction surgeries but still ended up going with a tattoo in the end right?
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DO NOT get a tribal tattoo despite what MDOW said none have stood the test of time and all look cringe.
(there are exceptions like maori/kirituhi tatoos)
If an authentic south pacific tribal tattoo will last, then an American street shop fratboy tribal like the ones he posted will last. His concern was based on durability.
also DO NOT get a "skin colored tattoo" to color in your scar, i feel like dont need to explain the ridiculousness of that
Please do as there appears to be a thriving business based on the idea.
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Right. But the question is: can a plastic surgeon truly make the scars back to not noticeable by someone on a date touching/seeing your legs in bed?
And medium drink of water (? I think) had some scar reduction surgeries but still ended up going with a tattoo in the end right?
No, yes, and yes. I think a combination of successful medical treatments and tattooing is the only way you're going to fully hide anything.
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Right so it seems like in summary?
1. There are some people who are very pro -skin colored tattoo while others think its ridiculous. My concern is this: sure you can get a skin colored tattoo but would it not be obvious based on the position of those skin colored tattoos that you had a surgery? Even if they are skin colored ish, they will fade and their very regular/symmetric positions will still give away the surgery, no?
2. And then it seems like most people here think that most dermatologists will help you flatten your LL scars (with laser or something?) And it is just as good as surgery to flatten those scars or no?
3. And then tribals seem to be durable but there is a debate on which look cringe vs not cringe? Something about south pacific vs maori/kirituhi
4. And its better to go for line work (design with lots of lines) instead of something like solid black shading/filling because the linework will visually obscure the linear scars among many lines?
5. Sun could maybe make the scars worse? Not an issue for me given my lifestyle.
Anyone wanna correct me on anything above?
I really don't understand the "bro surgery/dermatologist/skin color tattoos will just fix it" camp, like you might make the scars smaller/different color/flatter but how can you deal with the fact that even those reduced scars are in very regular and specific positions? You'd still be questioned on them by someone on a date up close to your legs, no? Ex: it may look pretty good especially from afar but it still would look like you got some kind of surgery no?
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Why is skin color tattooing such a bad idea off the bat? I dont know everything about it but the results when you search for it look pretty good.
Heres one random site showing before and after. And these are terrible scars, way worse than LL: https://www.ruthswissa.com/permanent-makeup-before-and-after-pictures-2/scar-camouflage/
Some of these you cant even see after.
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Why is skin color tattooing such a bad idea off the bat? I dont know everything about it but the results when you search for it look pretty good.
Heres one random site showing before and after. And these are terrible scars, way worse than LL: https://www.ruthswissa.com/permanent-makeup-before-and-after-pictures-2/scar-camouflage/
Some of these you cant even see after.
ya you're right, those pictures look great, like the linear scars still look like linear scars, but now I am wondering myself
So I guess someone could (current plan, would you edit this plan?):
- get the nails removed
- use scar silicone strips/scar creams
- then go to dermatologist to flatten/reduce scar appearance w/ laser or geometric scar revision or other things
- then get a skin colored tattoo
- then wait to see how it looks as it fades
- then make a decision about another tattoo afterwards I think is the best strategy? then have to decide what kind of tattoo (tribal, etc)
Wonder how much in total this might be in the USA, thinking less than 15k-20k USD total, not sure how much in practice?
The other thing someone pointed out on the old forum is that often scars don't look bad at all on dark skin sometimes and that seems to be the case for a patient here in Athens now
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Rods out
Revision only if its needed (scars are wide and texture is bad).
Wait a while/silicon strips
Laser if needed
Wait a while
Skin color tattoos
Done
I bet you could get all of this done for around 5-10k. If you dont get revision probably under 5k including with laser and tattoos. No way this is all going to cost 15-20k
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If an authentic south pacific tribal tattoo will last, then an American street shop fratboy tribal like the ones he posted will last. His concern was based on durability.
Please do as there appears to be a thriving business based on the idea.
i guess i misinterpreted durability for will this tattoo still look good a couple years down the line.
i will admit having seen some more of the scar camouflage tattooing it does look pretty good, i was under the impression it was just going to a tattoo parlour and asking for the artist to color in your tattoo and not a specialized paramedical procedure. so thats ignorance on my part.
5. Sun could maybe make the scars worse? Not an issue for me given my lifestyle.
the sun will darken your scars and make them more pronounced
speedialer what ethnicity are you?/ how do you scar?
asians are more prone to hyperpigmentation and darker skin types are more prone to keloid scarring/ hypertrophic scarring
if you are prone to hyper/hypotrophic scarring you absolutly should factor in dermatologist/plastics follow up after having your rods removed. you can get steroid injections for reducing sizing of scar, and scar correction
ive personally seen plastic surgeons work wonders with scar revision procedures and the end result is amazing/can be unnoticable
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Why is skin color tattooing such a bad idea off the bat? I dont know everything about it but the results when you search for it look pretty good.
Heres one random site showing before and after. And these are terrible scars, way worse than LL: https://www.ruthswissa.com/permanent-makeup-before-and-after-pictures-2/scar-camouflage/
Some of these you cant even see after.
Impressive results. I hadn't given this option serious consideration until seeing these pictures of before and after. However, it felt like many of the photos the entire complexion was different in addition to the scar being colored similarly to the rest. That seemed odd to me.
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I feel like this would've worked on some of mine but not others.
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Skin colored tattoo looks great but,
say you're on a vacation, laying out on the beach getting some sun...
does the skin color patch also get tan?
I kinda like the more intricate steampunk tattoos.
Maybe shoulder to chest so it can be hidden under a shirt if needed.
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I feel like this would've worked on some of mine but not others.
Skin colored tattoos would have looked strange on darker skin tones?
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I think its a great option for your hip scars if you do femurs. Youll never get sun there unless youre on the beach butt ass nked.
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I wonder how much flattening work can do
Like my scars are linear
But some are raised not just like under the color of the linear scar but raised slightly in just the immediate surrounding skin too if that makes sense?
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I wonder how much flattening work can do
Like my scars are linear
But some are raised not just like under the color of the linear scar but raised slightly in just the immediate surrounding skin too if that makes sense?
sounds like you have some mild hypertrophic scarring
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Silicon scar sheets might help. If they are really raised revision surgery may be needed.
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Something I'm wondering about is whether its worth it to do scar gel/scar sheet stuff before the nail removal, anyone know?
I mean supposedly it should help a bit but before nail removal, you know they are just going to cut it open again
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It cant hurt, id go for it. Im using scar sheets right now for something else. Its very slow to notice anything.
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I sort of wonder for these scar treatments if it would be better for me to do them in the USA locally
I'm assuming that an airplane ticket cost out of say D.C. won't be worth it to go to Mexico or somewhere for scar treatment, which will be alot less expensive than LL?
I haven't done the math though, doing gnail now, haven't really looked into it
It seems like there might be some kind of laser or other kind of treatment to flatten scars and then have to work out the skin color tattoo and then gauge the result. And then potentially a more intricate tattoo over it
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Scar treatment wont cost anywhere near LL. Laser is like 400 bucks per session, you need a few sessions.
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Scar treatment wont cost anywhere near LL. Laser is like 400 bucks per session, you need a few sessions.
That's great!
I'm trying to ballpark things but I think if laser and camouflage tattoo sessions are on the order of hundreds to low thousands of dollars per session, https://www.nikkibutler.co.uk/2020/04/01/how-much-does-camouflage-tattooing-cost/
Then I wonder if the total cost to cover up internal femur + tibia scars maybe could be under 10k USD and maybe significantly less, not sure
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Laser clinics charge by area, tattoo artists charge by the hour. It's hard to know without talking to them how much your individual case will cost.
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I sort of wonder if laser is better generally for LL scars than them physically snipping out/physically removing the scars? Not sure
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Lasers have their limits. The more serious the scar, the more it will still be there after laser treatment. It's scar reduction rather than removal.
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Lasers have their limits. The more serious the scar, the more it will still be there after laser treatment. It's scar reduction rather than removal.
yeah its sort of interesting like the "big" scar I have on my hip (I'm guessing he stuck the nail in through that hole) is linear but slightly raised
But the scars further down my thighs are flatter/only very very slightly raised
I'm not entirely sure what the laser would do but my hope is it would at least flatten the "big scar" a bit
Even the big scar for gnail femurs is not that big though its like .. an inch long maybe? For the most part I think the guys in Athens now are like "wow these scars are really small, they're like nothing" but the girl in Athens now is like "these scars are too much, why didn't the doctor explain the scars better to me before the surgery?" Its easy for us guys to say this though because we have hairier legs
The only thing is that the big scar on the hip is at a place that doesn't have much hair for most people (too high up on the leg) so its mainly that one I want to reduce
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Wait remind me of your situation again. You've had the surgery and nails out?
Can you show a photo (even temporarily) of your hip scar so I can see what the deal is. Nobody is going to identity you from a scar photo on a niche website.
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Wait remind me of your situation again. You've had the surgery and nails out?
Can you show a photo (even temporarily) of your hip scar so I can see what the deal is. Nobody is going to identity you from a scar photo on a niche website.
I am lengthening now w/ gnail and am thinking about way down the line after I get it removed someday what I'm going to do with the scars
The forum isn't letting me upload a pic for some reason, I had this problem when I tried uploading the menu for food from the hotel, not sure how ozboy got it to work
But basically it is a one inch linear scar on my hip/upper leg that is slightly raised. It isn't quite bright pink anymore, its a bit darker now. Its like uh, maybe 2-3 inches below my side hip bone?
The 'big' scar itself is like.. its nothing really, like I cannot believe how small it is and it is only slightly raised. The only problem is the symmetry/how regular the position of the scars are on both legs that make them identifiable as an intentional surgery
The other scars are so small and among my hairs that I am not even sure I will do anything for some of them, especially some of the screw hole scars which are just tiny dots
In terms of their actual visual impact (excluding the fact they give away that a surgery was done) its really hardly anything for internals, especially femurs, I bet other people here who get femur internals would agree. It is just the regularity/symmetry of them I want to conceal somehow
I saw the scars on someone who did internal tibias and they weren't bad, but a maybe like less than 1 inch linear scar on their knee also looked like a giveaway that a surgery was done
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Just upload to an image hosting site like imgur https://imgur.com/ and share the link.
I get your description but its helpful to actually see.
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Scars take one year to settle after the injury.