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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: maxheight35 on September 28, 2023, 02:07:48 AM
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Helloooo… Wow time freakin’ flies!
This is a FRESH POST on my tibia experience with Dr Becker from Germany, using the Betz Bone. The last thread is too long to continue, if you’d like to start there you can do so here:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=73542.0 (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=73542.0)
ONE YEAR LATER
My tibia surgery was September 12th, 2022
Absolutely incredible experience in Germany, especially at the hotel / clinic where I spent 30 days doing rehab and making some new friends.
I completed my lengthening after 5 months of clicking for a gain of 7.6cm (3 inches)
Funny thing is, I did NOT start really stretching until AFTER my lengthening… hahaha. Don’t do that.
It’s weird because I didn’t start to really feel it until after lengthening and now I’ve become a stretching master! Every morning for the first several minutes and a few times throughout the day.
Ok so anyway - fast forward >>>
I have traveled all over the world since LL. When I left Germany, I went straight to NYC, then back to LA, then Bali, Dubai, Monaco, Barcelona, and a few other cool places.
It’s weird because I was limping around the whole time but as time went on it became less and less and then before I realized it I was walking normal!
VERY IMPORTANT INFO
Dr Becker and his team are great. The nail is superior. It was a big deal to fly from Los Angeles, California to Freiburg, Germany and having to stay there for a full 5 weeks.
It’s funny because after one year I actually miss the place lol.
Because of the weight bearing nail, I’ve also been able to travel the world right away after surgery and live life the way I truly wanted - this is something I also didn’t expect!
Next year around this time, after the tibia bone has fully healed - I will go back and do the femurs.
FOLLOW THE INSTAGRAM
I created an account that has gained some pretty good followers over the last 12 months.
There I have posted progress from beginning to around Feb, and I also just posted the 12 month X-RAYS.
I will take the next 30 days to post my physical activities as of lately, and will reply here in the forum with any questions or comments anyone has.
FOLLOW HERE:
https://instagram.com/maxheight35 (https://instagram.com/maxheight35)
Oh and please - do not ask me questions about any other doctors. I cannot give my experience or opinion on anyone other than Dr. Becker!
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whats your original height and did u not get ballerina foot doing over 7 cm?
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Helloooo… Wow time freakin’ flies!
This is a FRESH POST on my tibia experience with Dr Becker from Germany, using the Betz Bone. The last thread is too long to continue, if you’d like to start there you can do so here:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=73542.0 (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=73542.0)
ONE YEAR LATER
My tibia surgery was September 12th, 2022
Absolutely incredible experience in Germany, especially at the hotel / clinic where I spent 30 days doing rehab and making some new friends.
I completed my lengthening after 5 months of clicking for a gain of 7.6cm (3 inches)
Funny thing is, I did NOT start really stretching until AFTER my lengthening… hahaha. Don’t do that.
It’s weird because I didn’t start to really feel it until after lengthening and now I’ve become a stretching master! Every morning for the first several minutes and a few times throughout the day.
Ok so anyway - fast forward >>>
I have traveled all over the world since LL. When I left Germany, I went straight to NYC, then back to LA, then Bali, Dubai, Monaco, Barcelona, and a few other cool places.
It’s weird because I was limping around the whole time but as time went on it became less and less and then before I realized it I was walking normal!
VERY IMPORTANT INFO
Dr Becker and his team are great. The nail is superior. It was a big deal to fly from Los Angeles, California to Freiburg, Germany and having to stay there for a full 5 weeks.
It’s funny because after one year I actually miss the place lol.
Because of the weight bearing nail, I’ve also been able to travel the world right away after surgery and live life the way I truly wanted - this is something I also didn’t expect!
Next year around this time, after the tibia bone has fully healed - I will go back and do the femurs.
FOLLOW THE INSTAGRAM
I created an account that has gained some pretty good followers over the last 12 months.
There I have posted progress from beginning to around Feb, and I also just posted the 12 month X-RAYS.
I will take the next 30 days to post my physical activities as of lately, and will reply here in the forum with any questions or comments anyone has.
FOLLOW HERE:
https://instagram.com/maxheight35 (https://instagram.com/maxheight35)
Oh and please - do not ask me questions about any other doctors. I cannot give my experience or opinion on anyone other than Dr. Becker!
Thanks for the update dude. I'll be doing the same pretty soon.
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Helloooo… Wow time freakin’ flies!
This is a FRESH POST on my tibia experience with Dr Becker from Germany, using the Betz Bone. The last thread is too long to continue, if you’d like to start there you can do so here:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=73542.0 (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=73542.0)
ONE YEAR LATER
My tibia surgery was September 12th, 2022
Absolutely incredible experience in Germany, especially at the hotel / clinic where I spent 30 days doing rehab and making some new friends.
I completed my lengthening after 5 months of clicking for a gain of 7.6cm (3 inches)
Funny thing is, I did NOT start really stretching until AFTER my lengthening… hahaha. Don’t do that.
It’s weird because I didn’t start to really feel it until after lengthening and now I’ve become a stretching master! Every morning for the first several minutes and a few times throughout the day.
Ok so anyway - fast forward >>>
I have traveled all over the world since LL. When I left Germany, I went straight to NYC, then back to LA, then Bali, Dubai, Monaco, Barcelona, and a few other cool places.
It’s weird because I was limping around the whole time but as time went on it became less and less and then before I realized it I was walking normal!
VERY IMPORTANT INFO
Dr Becker and his team are great. The nail is superior. It was a big deal to fly from Los Angeles, California to Freiburg, Germany and having to stay there for a full 5 weeks.
It’s funny because after one year I actually miss the place lol.
Because of the weight bearing nail, I’ve also been able to travel the world right away after surgery and live life the way I truly wanted - this is something I also didn’t expect!
Next year around this time, after the tibia bone has fully healed - I will go back and do the femurs.
FOLLOW THE INSTAGRAM
I created an account that has gained some pretty good followers over the last 12 months.
There I have posted progress from beginning to around Feb, and I also just posted the 12 month X-RAYS.
I will take the next 30 days to post my physical activities as of lately, and will reply here in the forum with any questions or comments anyone has.
FOLLOW HERE:
https://instagram.com/maxheight35 (https://instagram.com/maxheight35)
Oh and please - do not ask me questions about any other doctors. I cannot give my experience or opinion on anyone other than Dr. Becker!
Do you have any equinus? Can you walk long distances? Can you run?
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whats your original height and did u not get ballerina foot doing over 7 cm?
Original height 5ft 3 inches
Around 7.6cm I did start a slight ballerina foot and that’s one of the reasons why I stopped
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Do you have any equinus? Can you walk long distances? Can you run?
What is equinus?
Yes I can walk long distances now. I started going on hikes again back in July. It was easy going up, a little tricky coming back down - but now it’s almost normal.
Never was a runner, but I am also back on the stairmaster at the gym now. This was my go-to cardio pre surgery!
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im currently lengthening and its not really something i would miss. i want to remove my fixators but i got like 1 month left to reach 5.5/6 cm
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nice to see you! do you have any pain in the screws ?
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im currently lengthening and its not really something i would miss. i want to remove my fixators but i got like 1 month left to reach 5.5/6 cm
Oh man. You’re lengthening with Becker in Germany?
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nice to see you! do you have any pain in the screws ?
You too man. No pain anywhere anymore 🙏
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Hey max.. Im going with becker next year. Could you tell me how good is he?.. lately this forum is about bashing everything and becker is not the exception (I kind disagree because succesor of betz)
Planing to do 4 segments, In your experience¿would you do it?
Also Im Going alone, so ¿could you give me some tips or advice once I travel there? I know is not the “norm” 4 segments and alone but, not sure how mant patients go alone to that trip.
Staying 5 months, would you think I could walk like is not noticeable or still in goofy mode by 5 motnhs
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Hey max.. Im going with becker next year. Could you tell me how good is he?.. lately this forum is about bashing everything and becker is not the exception (I kind disagree because succesor of betz)
Planing to do 4 segments, In your experience¿would you do it?
Also Im Going alone, so ¿could you give me some tips or advice once I travel there? I know is not the “norm” 4 segments and alone but, not sure how mant patients go alone to that trip.
Staying 5 months, would you think I could walk like is not noticeable or still in goofy mode by 5 motnhs
Yeah he’s great. Not sure what’s been said here on the forum as I haven’t been on since February.
The whole experience with him from surgery to physical therapy, the hotel, exploring a bit of Germany, making new friends etc was a really positive experience.
Going alone is fun, but I wouldn’t do 4 segments at once.
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hi max, I hope you're doing great. Anyway, have you written anywhere in this forum regarding the overall cost of the treatment. for sergury, hotel, post sergury treatment, etc untill u fully recover and get ur aimed height.?
if you haven't can you disclosed an estimate on that please. thanks in advance.
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Yes, does the Physioterapy is included in the cost or you need to paid extra?
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how much did you pay?
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hi max, I hope you're doing great. Anyway, have you written anywhere in this forum regarding the overall cost of the treatment. for sergury, hotel, post sergury treatment, etc untill u fully recover and get ur aimed height.?
if you haven't can you disclosed an estimate on that please. thanks in advance.
Around $94,000
Total cost, including first class flights to and from USA ~ Germany, hotels, takeout food, restaurants, surgery, other misc costs like room service, etc.
I could have spent much less but I spoiled myself a bit.
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Yes, does the Physioterapy is included in the cost or you need to paid extra?
It was included in the cost!
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how much did you pay?
The surgery / pt was around 56k euro
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Hi Max,
Glad to hear it went so well.
I am having surgery in early Jan 24 with Dr Becker. Fibia.
My partner is coming with me.
Can you give some guidance please on what happens after Surgery in terms of accomodation at the clinic, then to the Hotel and still getting Rehab. Thanks!
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It was included in the cost!
Only for 2 weeks.
After2 weeks, you will need to pay for physo and Rehab accommodation.
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I understand the clinic is called : mooswaldklinikum. I have looked it up and there are two locations in Freiburg.
One just outside of Freiburg "Healing Springs" which looks great and one in town called "Freiburg Center" which looks a bit less appealing. Can you tell me which one it is? Thanks
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I understand the clinic is called : mooswaldklinikum. I have looked it up and there are two locations in Freiburg.
One just outside of Freiburg "Healing Springs" which looks great and one in town called "Freiburg Center" which looks a bit less appealing. Can you tell me which one it is? Thanks
Rehab Center: https://www.mooswaldklinik.de/
Hospital : MEDEM, Platanenweg 7, 79312 Emmendingen
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Any idea of how much could ir cost, lets said a mounth? The official page is in german
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Any idea of how much could ir cost, lets said a mounth? The official page is in german
Google translates into English.
The hotel is linked to Rehab Center: https://www.bcw-hotels.de/dorint-thermenhotel/
Under Becker's patient rate: Room + Meals = 214Euro per night.
40 mins therapy : 100 Euro
Subject to change in 2024...i think
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F***ing Expensive
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Hi Max,
Glad to hear it went so well.
I am having surgery in early Jan 24 with Dr Becker. Fibia.
My partner is coming with me.
Can you give some guidance please on what happens after Surgery in terms of accomodation at the clinic, then to the Hotel and still getting Rehab. Thanks!
Thank you!
The Dorint hotel is the best place to stay and it’s attached to the clinic. Check the Instagram story highlight reel “LL Clinic”
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Only for 2 weeks.
After2 weeks, you will need to pay for physo and Rehab accommodation.
The extra cost for last 2 weeks was 3.6k euro, and that included the hotel room, food, physical therapy, etc.
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F***ing Expensive
Bro what? Lol
Becker with Betz nails, the Dorint hotel, the physical therapy, the emotional support assistant… you are getting top quality and literally living in the lap of luxury in Germany. No other doctor / clinic will provide this level of service for the same price (not even close)
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Hi maxheight. Did you reach the clinic through Zurich or Frankfurt? Was there some kind of cab service for you to travel from Zurich/Frankfurt to the Freiburg and back? I imagine taking the train after surgery would not have been an easy task.
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Hi maxheight. Did you reach the clinic through Zurich or Frankfurt? Was there some kind of cab service for you to travel from Zurich/Frankfurt to the Freiburg and back? I imagine taking the train after surgery would not have been an easy task.
I flew in to Zurich, took an Uber Lux to Frieburg, was about 90 minute drive. When I left the clinic, Tanya (Becker’s assistant) drove me to the Zurich airport. It was nice!
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Thanks man. Did anyone you know get treated for osteomyletis at Becker's center? Do you think he has enough experience handling complication cases? When things go wrong is when you would need your surgeon the most.
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Thanks man. Did anyone you know get treated for osteomyletis at Becker's center? Do you think he has enough experience handling complication cases? When things go wrong is when you would need your surgeon the most.
i think it is super rare for internal nails.
You can email to BeckerBetz institute for more info
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Hi Max, at the hotel is there a area to do work on desks using a laptop and their WIFI? Rather then being in the room. Is it worth upgrading to a suite rather than a double room (my partner is coming with me)? ta
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Thanks man. Did anyone you know get treated for osteomyletis at Becker's center? Do you think he has enough experience handling complication cases? When things go wrong is when you would need your surgeon the most.
Dr. Becker is a great guy and most of his patients I've met do great and are very happy with him. But the truth is, he exclusively does cosmetic limb lengthening and sometimes discrepancy cases. So he mostly works with healthy patients and not for example the elderly, trauma cases, cases with underlying comorbidities, etc So if there are severe complications like drop foot or infections I am not too sure of his experience with that.
Also he used to do other plastic surgeries prior to his limb lengthening career which some people take issue with.
If you're extremely anxious about this, go to someone else. Presurgery nerves are too hard to handle if you aren't 100% sure. Most people I saw there were generally optimistic and it appeared to me that they weren't thinking too much about major complications. The atmosphere in Freiburg and Dr. Becker's center is generally positive and encouraging.
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Hi Max, at the hotel is there a area to do work on desks using a laptop and their WIFI? Rather then being in the room. Is it worth upgrading to a suite rather than a double room (my partner is coming with me)? ta
Yes the hotel has tons of different places where you can relax and hustle on the laptop. My personal favorite was the back restaurant lobby in the rooms with the floor to ceiling glass windows over looking the nature.
Also they have all the suites on the 5th floor, and would highly recommend those. I personally didn’t stay in any as they were all booked during my time, however I saw a few and will definitely be locking one in for the full duration of my next surgery. They have a living room, separate dining room, bedroom, jacuzzi tub, and a wrap around balcony overlooking the front and back of the hotel grounds!
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Did you decide on Becker instead of a US doctor mainly because of the "package" that included stay and PT? And that the nail is weight bearing ofc.
Your videos on Insta are great, congrats on the recovery!
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Did you decide on Becker instead of a US doctor mainly because of the "package" that included stay and PT? And that the nail is weight bearing ofc.
Your videos on Insta are great, congrats on the recovery!
There was many factors for my decision, but yes those two you mentioned are some of the reasons.
Thanks re; videos and recovery…. It’s a journey ;D
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You said you finished lengthening. But what happens when you do that clicking thing with your foot now? Does your tibia still lengthen?
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You said you finished lengthening. But what happens when you do that clicking thing with your foot now? Does your tibia still lengthen?
Oh man lol hope it doesn’t click. Check the new X-Rays, looks like the bone healed together quite good. Clicking would be really hard to do re-break the bone and that would hurt so bad.
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I have also checked out your instagram. Thank you so much for your information! Becker is definitely one of the Dr. that I am considering to do surgery with.
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MaxHeight. I just want to say you are a legend. The information you shared is absolutely invaluable. The IG videos back up everything. You will help many confused and misled people make up their minds whether to do this or not with all this wealth of knowledge. The other thing I want to commend you on is dealing so well with the trolls. There are some crazy stupid trolls on here. I assume they are from rival LL centres. Earlier a female Becker patient, who was posting updates completely stopped posting valuable updates when a horrible troll started attacking her. It was all of our loss. Who would want to do that but a rival LL company. But you very skilfully dealt with the trolls and continued posted. For that we are all grateful.
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I have also checked out your instagram. Thank you so much for your information! Becker is definitely one of the Dr. that I am considering to do surgery with.
Very welcome. I believe he’s the best.
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Hello,
Thank you for sharing your experience with everyone! May I ask what your age is roughly? I only ask because I am 53 and considering doing the surgery. Although Minney would say that's too old. But I am lean and fit so I think it is still possible with a really good doctor.
Thank you
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I havent done the operarion yet, but I have read until 60yesrs is fine as long you are healty and don’t smoke,
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hey maxheight , congrats on achieving 3 inches. I had 2 questions
1.Why didn't you stretch during lengthening ? that's one thing every LL vet recommends not skimping on
2.What made you stop ? was it pain ? Did you stop the moment you started feeling pain or when you saw it wasn't going away even after a while ?
Cuz I have read that people start feeling pain when they hit certain lengths(4cm,7cm) , but after a while it goes away if they keep pushing.So should we stop the moment it starts hurting(and give up on potential gains), or should we keep going and stop only if its protracted pain ?
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MaxHeight. I just want to say you are a legend. The information you shared is absolutely invaluable. The IG videos back up everything. You will help many confused and misled people make up their minds whether to do this or not with all this wealth of knowledge. The other thing I want to commend you on is dealing so well with the trolls. There are some crazy stupid trolls on here. I assume they are from rival LL centres. Earlier a female Becker patient, who was posting updates completely stopped posting valuable updates when a horrible troll started attacking her. It was all of our loss. Who would want to do that but a rival LL company. But you very skilfully dealt with the trolls and continued posted. For that we are all grateful.
Thank you. Yeah there’s a lot of keyboard warriors out there lol. Don’t let them stop you from achieving your dreams and goals ;)
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Hello,
Thank you for sharing your experience with everyone! May I ask what your age is roughly? I only ask because I am 53 and considering doing the surgery. Although Minney would say that's too old. But I am lean and fit so I think it is still possible with a really good doctor.
Thank you
I’m 35. I think if you’re feeling good about it then you should do it!
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MaxHeight. I just want to say you are a legend. The information you shared is absolutely invaluable. The IG videos back up everything. You will help many confused and misled people make up their minds whether to do this or not with all this wealth of knowledge. The other thing I want to commend you on is dealing so well with the trolls. There are some crazy stupid trolls on here. I assume they are from rival LL centres. Earlier a female Becker patient, who was posting updates completely stopped posting valuable updates when a horrible troll started attacking her. It was all of our loss. Who would want to do that but a rival LL company. But you very skilfully dealt with the trolls and continued posted. For that we are all grateful.
everyone who questions the doc's ability to handle complications (because he comes from a plastic surgery hair transplant background and does only CLL surgeries) is not a troll or from a rival LL centre.
it's funny no one can actually answer this genuine question.
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everyone who questions the doc's ability to handle complications (because he comes from a plastic surgery hair transplant background and does only CLL surgeries) is not a troll or from a rival LL centre.
it's funny no one can actually answer this genuine question.
To be fair, just because he was a plastic surgeon in another industry doesn’t mean he can’t be very good at something new. Obviously the guy spent many years training under Betz before taking the initiative to do it himself.
You have doctors who’ve been doing LL for 10+ years and still don’t have the right system in place, the proper nails, physical therapy, etc… and are strictly focused on money only.
Becker could easily charge 90k+ for the level of overall service he provides.
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hey maxheight , congrats on achieving 3 inches. I had 2 questions
1.Why didn't you stretch during lengthening ? that's one thing every LL vet recommends not skimping on
2.What made you stop ? was it pain ? Did you stop the moment you started feeling pain or when you saw it wasn't going away even after a while ?
Cuz I have read that people start feeling pain when they hit certain lengths(4cm,7cm) , but after a while it goes away if they keep pushing.So should we stop the moment it starts hurting(and give up on potential gains), or should we keep going and stop only if its protracted pain ?
Thanks!
1. I stretched, but very little. I just didn’t feel like I needed it at the time, as I was walking pretty good. I definitely felt it as time went on.
2. Started to really feel it around 7cm to where the ballerina foot started to happen. However I wanted 3 inches so I kept going to 7.6cm !
As I look back, I do believe that if I had started doing the proper stretching while lengthening, and the hot salt baths (these help a lot!) - then could have pushed to 8-9cm for sure.
All good tho. Lesson learned and still extremely satisfied with 3 inches!!!
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Thanks!
1. I stretched, but very little. I just didn’t feel like I needed it at the time, as I was walking pretty good. I definitely felt it as time went on.
2. Started to really feel it around 7cm to where the ballerina foot started to happen. However I wanted 3 inches so I kept going to 7.6cm !
As I look back, I do believe that if I had started doing the proper stretching while lengthening, and the hot salt baths (these help a lot!) - then could have pushed to 8-9cm for sure.
All good tho. Lesson learned and still extremely satisfied with 3 inches!!!
When did you feel the walking with difficulty? 5cm or 6cm?
You didnt use any crutches during LL?
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When did you feel the walking with difficulty? 5cm or 6cm?
You didnt use any crutches during LL?
7cm
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To be fair, just because he was a plastic surgeon in another industry doesn’t mean he can’t be very good at something new. Obviously the guy spent many years training under Betz before taking the initiative to do it himself.
You have doctors who’ve been doing LL for 10+ years and still don’t have the right system in place, the proper nails, physical therapy, etc… and are strictly focused on money only.
Becker could easily charge 90k+ for the level of overall service he provides.
see the point it is, he does only CLL surgeries and does not seem to do any standard ortho work. so yes most cases will turn out well because he is good at it but if there are complications then I don't know if he has capabilities to handle it. Lots of things can go wrong and you might need his expertise in nerve decompression, nail exchange, bone infection treatment, fractures etc This part of his background is very unclear. I think the patients who go to him just don't worry so much about things going wrong in general.
I think he is a great guy though don't get me wrong. Easily more caring than most docs out there which is why his patients like him.
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You are an absolute legend!! I appreciate you sharing your LL experience in great depth, Absolutely remarkable!
I have consulted with Dr. Becker already and seriously considering doing LL in the tibias like you did. I plan to take recovery and stretching very serious.
My only question is how many months after the surgery did it take you to walk normal again and do exercise after lengthening 7.6cm??
As you mentioned limping around the whole time but as time went on it became less and less and then you were walking normal as well to killing cardio on the stair-master.
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I’m thinking of maybe doing 3 inches tibias… my q is, would you be able to provide us with a pic of you in boxers of your lower torso for proportion? I don’t care about arm length I just want to get a better idea of the tibia to femur proportion. I followed the IG and saw the entire thing, thanks for your contribution.
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As I look back, I do believe that if I had started doing the proper stretching while lengthening, and the hot salt baths (these help a lot!) - then could have pushed to 8-9cm for sure.
from your experience , do you think someone could achieve 11-12 cm tibial legthening via betzbone , if they stretched and did other stuff dilligently ?
cuz it has already been proven that 11-12cm can be achieved on the femur (albeit with reduced mobility)
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You are an absolute legend!! I appreciate you sharing your LL experience in great depth, Absolutely remarkable!
I have consulted with Dr. Becker already and seriously considering doing LL in the tibias like you did. I plan to take recovery and stretching very serious.
My only question is how many months after the surgery did it take you to walk normal again and do exercise after lengthening 7.6cm??
As you mentioned limping around the whole time but as time went on it became less and less and then you were walking normal as well to killing cardio on the stair-master.
Thank you!
I started walking normal around 3 months after finishing the lengthening.
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Hey man ! Was following your other thread for months. I have my surgery with Becker late February 2024 for femurs. How are you feeling now in terms of mobility, pain, physical limitations ?
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dam 94k is alot of money. how did u save up all that money? must of saved since u were in ur 20's. hows ur recovery? it must be nice to have gain so much. i stopped early because of a few complications. i couldnt go further at 5.5cm.