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Community Hangout => Off Topic => Topic started by: ReadRothbard on November 25, 2014, 10:07:46 PM
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I'm 18-years-old, and I'm on the higher threshold of short at about 5'7. Having Apergers, it was pretty hard for me to attract women throughout most of my highschool. Back then, I only had one girlfriend. However, I don't know how much to attribute to my height rather than my disorder, and vice versa. The past year, during which I've greatly improved my social skills with the opposite sex, I've had little-to-know interest pursuing a relationship, or even casual encounters, with the opposite sex; I just don't really care about them anymore. Outside of my "occupation", women never approach or talk to me-- I am the one initiating conversation. I always thought that this was simply a normal thing, but my best friend told me that he actually has women approach HIM! I was absolutely shocked!
So, for those short men whom are mentally-normal, what's it like to try to get a girlfriend.
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Well in 8th grade I was 5'2 and there were 4 different girls that had a crush on me. In high school I stopped growing at 5'5, and while I often got "I'd be so into you if you were taller" I was still successful in hooking up a few times. Later on in college when I studied abroad in Beijing, I had a threesome with a waitress and her friend in a closet at the restaurant after hours. They commented that I was short but they didn't seem to care because I was built and had hairy arms, which fascinated them for some reason lol.
Height is definitely a factor in how successful you are with girls but if you work on being built and being well-groomed, then you'll have more success than if you simply didn't care about improving yourself in other ways.
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Well in 8th grade I was 5'2 and there were 4 different girls that had a crush on me. In high school I stopped growing at 5'5, and while I often got "I'd be so into you if you were taller" I was still successful in hooking up a few times. Later on in college when I studied abroad in Beijing, I had a threesome with a waitress and her friend in a closet at the restaurant after hours. They commented that I was short but they didn't seem to care because I was built and had hairy arms, which fascinated them for some reason lol.
Height is definitely a factor in how successful you are with girls but if you work on being built and being well-groomed, then you'll have more success than if you simply didn't care about improving yourself in other ways.
That sounds like fun. It's interesting that you were still considered short enough to varant a comment even in Beijing.
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It's interesting that you were still considered short enough to varant a comment even in Beijing.
Well short for a white guy. It was right next to a college campus and a lot of study abroad students from Europe and the US were concentrated in the area.
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i have problems to get girls at 5´5 . i dated some girls but a lot of others reject me because of my height. The girls i dated were girls that doesnt care a lot about height. but definitely is difficult to find them. at 5´7 is much more easy.
When i wear lifts that make me like a real 169cm tall i really notice it , and i dated girls a lot more easily.
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i have problems to get girls at 5´5 . i dated some girls but a lot of others reject me because of my height. The girls i dated were girls that doesnt care a lot about height. but definitely is difficult to find them. at 5´7 is much more easy.
When i wear lifts that make me like a real 169cm tall i really notice it , and i dated girls a lot more easily.
169 cm is about how tall I am naturally, and I've never actually had a girl call me short. There was a female friend of mine who once did jokingly, but she was also about four inches taller than me.
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Its not hard, everybody can get a girlfriend.
BUT THE QUESTION IS.
You all know what i mean.
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Mexican women generally date short latino guys regardless of what you've heard. I've never seen one with a tall caucasian man so that's saying there is a chance. I guess it's just as hard as a caucasian male to get a hispanic female.
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My cousin latina is together with a friend 5'9. So yeah....
But still no love for short guys which is the main focus for us.
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Theres this guy at work who's about 163-165, not sure exactly since I never asked him. Anyway he has the hottest girlfriend at work who is a head taller than him with no shoes and 2 heads taller with heels. And honestly it looks so ridiculous when they go out clubbing or occasions where she wears high heels, she literally towers over him so so bad. Me and my other colleagues at work all talk about it when we see them together and subject is always "man she's hot and tall and he is short" or "how the hell did that happen!!!!"
Could you imagine what the wedding pictures would look like....?? Being short and going out with a girl that is 2 heads taller than you with heels is like dancing with your sister... it just doesnt look right lol
But you know what, it doesnt bother the guy one bit as he doesnt seem to be affected by it what so ever. He just laughs it off when the subject is brought up, whether its a "you're just jealous" type of laugh or he's just laughing to make it seem he doesnt care nobody knows.
Long story short he's banging one of the hottest chicks around at his height.... I'd put up some pictures but worry about copyright issues and he may or may not end up on here sometime in the future, you never know, and its also rude too so I wont. Take my word for it, this girl is a everyone would turn their heads and look if she walked down the street/10 ;D Absolute stunner, Im quite jealous actually but would never go out with someone that much taller than me, feels wrong and people will judge no matter what.
So to answer your question, its not impossible but its a challenge nonetheless. What he had going for him was that they had a lot in common and I mean ALOT ,not sure about his size down there though as I never checked ;)
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Does he have any tips, what is he like? Is he very handsome perhaps?
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My cousin latina is together with a friend 5'9. So yeah....
But still no love for short guys which is the main focus for us.
Is she full latina?are you Latino? I have a friend who's Moms peruvian and Dads white and her Baby Daddy is white so if that be the case that's not really saying much.
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So to answer your question, its not impossible but its a challenge nonetheless. What he had going for him was that they had a lot in common and I mean ALOT ,not sure about his size down there though as I never checked ;)
There are many facets to attraction other than just height alone. Height is just one aspect but does not provide the complete package. Women look for the complete package. Asking the question how hard is it for a short guy to find a GF is similar to asking a short girl, how hard is it to find a bf. Would you date a short woman who is less than 5'0, fat, ugly with a nasty personality? I wouldn't. But if she is short but is cute and rich, I would date her instantly.
Instead of staying home and looking at stats, you guys should go outside more and experience the real world. I have seen short guys picking up hot girls at the club all the time and it seem ridiculous. There was this guy who was 6'0 and was good-looking but he was socially awkward. He couldn't pick up anyone and just standed there like a wall flower all night long. But this other dude who was just 5'2, and he was bragging to me about how many girls he had picked up. He keeps attacking until he finally gets someone. So height is just one facet but is not the whole picture. Comparing two men, one who is tall and handsome but is inactive and the other short and ugly but is active and horny. The short and ugly guy will always win out and be able to pick up more girls due to the law of averages alone. If you want to pick up girls, my best advice to you is to attack.
Cajun, Canada's best PUA, is just 5'7. You can search him up on youtube.
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The most important part is confidence. I had a few girlfriends when I was 165cm, no ugly ones of course ;D. They didn't care about height at all, only some bitches care about that and most of the time they're insecure make-up monsters. When I started to worry about height I suddenly had problems with women. Because they don't like insecure men, like everyone. Even a really good looking, 5'11 (!!!), girl had such a big crush on me because I made her laugh and was well-groomed but I was too retarded to bang her because I wasted my time on forums like this ???
Just be confident and funny and of course don't be an .
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There are many facets to attraction other than just height alone. Height is just one aspect but does not provide the complete package. Women look for the complete package. Asking the question how hard is it for a short guy to find a GF is similar to asking a short girl, how hard is it to find a bf. Would you date a short woman who is less than 5'0, fat, ugly with a nasty personality? I wouldn't. But if she is short but is cute and rich, I would date her instantly.
Instead of staying home and looking at stats, you guys should go outside more and experience the real world. I have seen short guys picking up hot girls at the club all the time and it seem ridiculous. There was this guy who was 6'0 and was good-looking but he was socially awkward. He couldn't pick up anyone and just stranded there like a wall flower all night long. But this other dude who was just 5'2, and he was bragging to me how many girls he had picked up. He keeps attacking until he finally gets someone. So height is just one facet but is not the whole. Comparing two men, one who is tall and handsome but is inactive and the other short and ugly but is active and horny. The short and ugly guy will always win out and be able to pick up more girls due to the law of averages alone. If you want to pick up girls, my best advice to you is to attack.
Cajun, Canada's best PUA, is just 5'7. You can search him up on youtube.
That's it man, healthy mindset.
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Mexican women generally date short latino guys regardless of what you've heard. I've never seen one with a tall caucasian man so that's saying there is a chance. I guess it's just as hard as a caucasian male to get a hispanic female.
I have to prove you wrong. Mexican women might indeed not care that much about height, BUT THEY DO CARE. I noticed it here in El Paso, where it is mainly made up of mexicans but living in an american society. A lot of them will seek tall guys, especially if they are african-american or caucasian.
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I have to prove you wrong. Mexican women might indeed not care that much about height, BUT THEY DO CARE. I noticed it here in El Paso, where it is mainly made up of mexicans but living in an american society. A lot of them will seek tall guys, especially if they are african-american or caucasian.
But how tall are we talking? I think we all generally agree that all women prefer men taller than them, however being much taller is only a slight bonus surely?
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lol
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But how tall are we talking? I think we all generally agree that all women prefer men taller than them, however being much taller is only a slight bonus surely?
Idk man probably 4-5 inches taller than them? Which is kind of dumb in my opinion. Height shouldn't be a limit on dating I would date a 6'5" girl as just as she was nice with me and knew how to satisfy me lol
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Lol to the PUA example.
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Does he have any tips, what is he like? Is he very handsome perhaps?
What is he like? Rather boring if anything, not a party-goer or anything like that, more so the 9 to 5 type with a half decent car but nothing fancy.
Is he handsome? I'd say he is a 5/10 at best, facial features is average and I guess the height marks his score down somewhat. So no, not very handsome at all which further adds intrigue
He is asian, not sure which one and she is white. If anyone was curious
Not sure how they met, Im assuming through mutual friends or in their school days but he's in now and thats all that matters so good on him.
She does amateur modelling in her spare time, nothing too serious but the photoshoots that he shows us is yummy!! :o
He's an inspiration if anything but its still so cringe worthy when I see them together especially when she is literally towering over him in heels so bad, she bends over to kiss him ???
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What is he like? Rather boring if anything, not a party-goer or anything like that, more so the 9 to 5 type with a half decent car but nothing fancy.
Is he handsome? I'd say he is a 5/10 at best, facial features is average and I guess the height marks his score down somewhat. So no, not very handsome at all which further adds intrigue
He is asian, not sure which one and she is white. If anyone was curious
Not sure how they met, Im assuming through mutual friends or in their school days but he's in now and thats all that matters so good on him.
She does amateur modelling in her spare time, nothing too serious but the photoshoots that he shows us is yummy!! :o
He's an inspiration if anything but its still so cringe worthy when I see them together especially when she is literally towering over him in heels so bad, she bends over to kiss him ???
He could be the new urban legend -like the midget casanova no women can resist.
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What is he like? Rather boring if anything, not a party-goer or anything like that, more so the 9 to 5 type with a half decent car but nothing fancy.
Is he handsome? I'd say he is a 5/10 at best, facial features is average and I guess the height marks his score down somewhat. So no, not very handsome at all which further adds intrigue
He is asian, not sure which one and she is white. If anyone was curious
Not sure how they met, Im assuming through mutual friends or in their school days but he's in now and thats all that matters so good on him.
She does amateur modelling in her spare time, nothing too serious but the photoshoots that he shows us is yummy!! :o
He's an inspiration if anything but its still so cringe worthy when I see them together especially when she is literally towering over him in heels so bad, she bends over to kiss him ???
For some girls, being asian is what a they want haha. Even if they are short or ugly, just with the simple fact they are asian they might want them.
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For some girls, being asian is what a they want haha. Even if they are short or ugly, just with the simple fact they are asian they might want them.
ARE YOU DISCRISMINATION?
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ARE YOU DISCRISMINATION?
Chill
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For some girls, being asian is what a they want haha. Even if they are short or ugly, just with the simple fact they are asian they might want them.
Other than Asian women, I've never met any caucasian woman who wants to date an asian man. Most caucasian women that are with Asian men because they couldn't find a white man. The highest degree of hotness of a white woman with an Asian man I've seen was a weak 7 and even then that's pushing it.
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Other than Asian women, I've never met any caucasian woman who wants to date an asian man. Most caucasian women that are with Asian men because they couldn't find a white man. The highest degree of hotness of a white woman with an Asian man I've seen was a weak 7 and even then that's pushing it.
There are more and more white women dating Asian men here in SoCal. They tend to really be into those Korean dramas or Japanese animation.
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There are more and more white women dating Asian men here in SoCal. They tend to really be into those Korean dramas or Japanese animation.
But are they 7s and above? I have only seen 9s and 10s white women with white men and occasionally Latino men. I'm a little bit superficial when it comes to women but most men are.
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It is also important to remember that one is going to rarely see an asian man with a woman period, because Asians are only about 3% of the nation or less. That could be a reason why you don't seen many white women with Asian men.
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It is also important to remember that one is going to rarely see an asian man with a woman period, because Asians are only about 3% of the nation or less. That could be a reason why you don't seen many white women with Asian men.
It's because white men and black men are higher on the sexual pedestal. If you watch the media, you'll notice that most of the time asian men are the villains or the geeky nerdy guys that people scorn upon as for the white man is the hero and the virtuous one. Asian women are often potrayed as sex objects and more submissive giving the yellow fever to white men. I don't mind dating an Asian women but I don't go scoping out for one unlike what a lot of white men do.
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I think who dates who depends alot on where you live. In the country I live in and when I've been overseas the most common mixed couples I see are white men and Asian women. However in Washington D.C there were alot of black/white couples. In any case being taller does help meeting women but you need to have the other aspects of your life taken care of. E.g if you have a weird/off putting personality you'll still be alone at 6ft.
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I think who dates who depends alot on where you live. In the country I live in and when I've been overseas the most common mixed couples I see are white men and Asian women. However in Washington D.C there were alot of black/white couples. In any case being taller does help meeting women but you need to have the other aspects of your life taken care of. E.g if you have a weird/off putting personality you'll still be alone at 6ft.
It depends but it's also preference. I had an African American female friend who lived in China for a year and she did not date any men because she told me she "only dates black men" which is a typical attitude of women of that race. On an interracial dating stat, the majority of women of all races ideal partner was someone of the same race as them except for an Asian women who's ideal partner was white. An Asian man from Asia or USA is most likely going to marry an Asian woman as for an Asian woman is more likely to marry a white man. The rest of the human races are more likely going to marry someone of their own race ( and yes a black man is still more likely going to marry a black woman regardless of them increasing in interracial dating).
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It depends but it's also preference. I had an African American female friend who lived in China for a year and she did not date any men because she told me she "only dates black men" which is a typical attitude of women of that race. On an interracial dating stat, the majority of women of all races ideal partner was someone of the same race as them except for an Asian women who's ideal partner was white. An Asian man from Asia or USA is most likely going to marry an Asian woman as for an Asian woman is more likely to marry a white man. The rest of the human races are more likely going to marry someone of their own race ( and yes a black man is still more likely going to marry a black woman regardless of them increasing in interracial dating).
What the fk? Some women are so weird. I could care less the race of the woman I date. If she's hot and we click, I'm in. ;)
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What the f**k? Some women are so weird. I could care less the race of the woman I date. If she's hot and we click, I'm in. ;)
Yeah but women are usually the selector regardless of a mans height think about it. Your a female who's a 9 or 10 and you get to choose the man you date. You'd pick one to your racial/ ethnic preference, tall, got a good paying job (which is senior to height.) know martial arts who you gonna pick? Your not gonna pick a broke ass man who isn't your type it's common sense. Women get hit on by men everyday unless they are hideous so they are gonna pick the one they want because they could get the type since society puts pressure on men to approach women.
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In my home country there arent a lot of African Americans, I dont live in the States where they are a dime a dozen. In fact, I cant remember the last time I saw a black person.
Majority of people here are white, asian, middle eastern and islanders in that order, barely any Latinos and African Americans if any. African Americans are the minority so seeing a black and white interracial relationship is extremely new to me as I've never seen one.
It all comes down to preference, me personally I dont have a preference and dont understand the marry your own kind shenanigans.
Geography plays a part as well. In my home country dating a black man is probably on the bottom of every womans list, dating a black woman is rock bottom, no joke. Complete opposite of the USA where black men are the fad of the modern day
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At 5 8 I never had a problem with getting women, and think that if you can't get a girl at around that height, chances are theres other things undesirable than your height. I do think thats around the cutoff where a lot of women will start judging and discounting someones worth heavily- Which is not to say that shorter guys can't get girls, they just need to have proportionately much stronger personalities/jobs/facial features etc.
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At 5 8 I never had a problem with getting women, and think that if you can't get a girl at around that height, chances are theres other things undesirable than your height. I do think thats around the cutoff where a lot of women will start judging and discounting someones worth heavily- Which is not to say that shorter guys can't get girls, they just need to have proportionately much stronger personalities/jobs/facial features etc.
i agree with you, height is a serious problem when you are under 5´7, at 5´8 most girls wouldnt care about your height except they are 5´8 or more
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Yeah, at 5 8 it just narrows your dating pool a bit since theres some girls your height or taller but its not like you are universally viewed as flawed, like what happens at shorter heights. Even at 5 8 I dated or hooked up with a few girls my height and one much taller.
Never once before my surgery did I feel like I needed it for success with women my height or under. I worry about guys who believe all their problems with dating come from height, and that 2-3 inches will fix them all, especially if their starting height is 5 8+. At lesser heights the gain will definitely help in that regard though.
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Especially if you are alpha as fk, being 5'6-5'7 won't tend to hurt your dating pool.
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Majority of people here are white, asian, middle eastern and islanders in that order, barely any Latinos and African Americans if any. African Americans are the minority so seeing a black and white interracial relationship is extremely new to me as I've never seen one.
Shorty. Where do you live? Maybe we live in the same city.
It's because white men and black men are higher on the sexual pedestal. If you watch the media, you'll notice that most of the time asian men are the villains or the geeky nerdy guys that people scorn upon as for the white man is the hero and the virtuous one. Asian women are often potrayed as sex objects and more submissive giving the yellow fever to white men. I don't mind dating an Asian women but I don't go scoping out for one unlike what a lot of white men do.
Dude, I find your comment about racism really stupid. Most guys rely on being a part of a race to boost their ego are really pathetic to begin with. Not to mention a 186cm guy feeling short and insecure. I haven't met you but I can tell you that your height is probably not a factor on why you become a loser.
1. "Black/white men are raised on sexual pedestal." Are you a woman or gay? Moreover, if you watch western media, obviously, the intended audience is their own race. But if you watch Jap/Korean drama, those men are portrayed as dominant.
2. Your black female friend doesn't date the local in China for 1 year. I can't imagine any desirable woman holding up her pusssy for that long. But like I said, most people prefer their own race, including the asian local men.
3. I don't know where you got your stat. But most Asian women prefer asian first before seeking other race.
4. You don't see a Asian man with 9/10 type white woman. Yes, maybe you haven't met one. But unless this world is very racist, then I don't see why this isn't possible. A man of any race who possess the same qualities and traits should have the same opportunity as anybody else.
I find it amusing that someone could bring up racism this day and age. But from a guy who wants to be taller at 6'2, then I shouldn't be surprised. Unless you have an intelligent response, let's keep it at this.
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Shorty. Where do you live? Maybe we live in the same city.
Sorry its a secret, would like to keep that private ;D
1. "Black/white men are raised on sexual pedestal." Are you a woman or gay? Moreover, if you watch western media, obviously, the intended audience is their own race. But if you watch Jap/Korean drama, those men are portrayed as dominant.
Couldnt agree more, of course in western media the westerners play the 'good' guys and vice versa in asian media and any other place hence why I said geography also plays a little part in who you might or might not be interested in.
Of course if you live in a western country, particularly the US then odds are you prefer white or black men over asians and so forth since they are portrayed as the next best thing to come along since slice bread so naturally you'd want a slice.
If you were to go to an asian country then well you get the point... I've holidayed in Japan a few times now and never seen a black/Japanese couple ever, you see about the same amount of interracial relationships in Japan as you would see an asian/white couple in the States, not very often
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Sorry its a secret, would like to keep that private ;D
Couldnt agree more, of course in western media the westerners play the 'good' guys and vice versa in asian media and any other place hence why I said geography also plays a little part in who you might or might not be interested in.
Of course if you live in a western country, particularly the US then odds are you prefer white or black men over asians and so forth since they are portrayed as the next best thing to come along since slice bread so naturally you'd want a slice.
If you were to go to an asian country then well you get the point... I've holidayed in Japan a few times now and never seen a black/Japanese couple ever, you see about the same amount of interracial relationships in Japan as you would see an asian/white couple in the States, not very often
Alot of asian women want to come to America to get a caucasian male but they are often stuck in their country so they have to get what they can.
Shorty. Where do you live? Maybe we live in the same city.
Dude, I find your comment about racism really stupid. Most guys rely on being a part of a race to boost their ego are really pathetic to begin with. Not to mention a 186cm guy feeling short and insecure. I haven't met you but I can tell you that your height is probably not a factor on why you become a loser.
1. "Black/white men are raised on sexual pedestal." Are you a woman or gay? Moreover, if you watch western media, obviously, the intended audience is their own race. But if you watch Jap/Korean drama, those men are portrayed as dominant.
2. Your black female friend doesn't date the local in China for 1 year. I can't imagine any desirable woman holding up her pusssy for that long. But like I said, most people prefer their own race, including the asian local men.
3. I don't know where you got your stat. But most Asian women prefer asian first before seeking other race.
4. You don't see a Asian man with 9/10 type white woman. Yes, maybe you haven't met one. But unless this world is very racist, then I don't see why this isn't possible. A man of any race who possess the same qualities and traits should have the same opportunity as anybody else.
I find it amusing that someone could bring up racism this day and age. But from a guy who wants to be taller at 6'2, then I shouldn't be surprised. Unless you have an intelligent response, let's keep it at this.
Don't be jealous that I can get to my Dream height and you can't. I'm talking about in the media. They're are almost no if any movies that are American where the main character is asian. The asian men are often portrayed as the villians or the geeky losers. You don't need me to justify these stats look them up. You'll see that it's more common for an Asian female to marry a caucasian male. I'm sure it has been done that a 10/10 gorgeous white woman is with an Asian male but I've never seen it allthough they're very few women that look that good and %90+ of White women want and do marry non hispanic white men. But unless your Asian, I don't know why these stats and opinions would bother you.
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Alot of asian women want to come to America to get a caucasian male but they are often stuck in their country so they have to get what they can.
Don't be jealous that I can get to my Dream height and you can't. I'm talking about in the media. They're are almost no if any movies that are American where the main character is asian. The asian men are often portrayed as the villians or the geeky losers. You don't need me to justify these stats look them up. You'll see that it's more common for an Asian female to marry a caucasian male. I'm sure it has been done that a 10/10 gorgeous white woman is with an Asian male but I've never seen it allthough they're very few women that look that good and %90+ of White women want and do marry non hispanic white men. But unless your Asian, I don't know why these stats and opinions would bother you.
You're such a pathetic loser, it's unreal...
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Alot of asian women want to come to America to get a caucasian male but they are often stuck in their country so they have to get what they can.
Based on what though? Your stereotypes? Lol...
Next you'll say all black men are murderers, rapist, drug dealers, jobless and etc...
You clearly missed the point I was trying to make about geography(your country) What you've just typed up are only what you see in your country, not everywhere else and last I checked America isnt the whole world, assuming you live in America
Western country - westerners = heroes
Asian country - asians = heroes
Simple concept really, so of course there are NO movies where the asian ethnic person is the hero.... if you live in a western country
It amazes me how this forum gets off topic so quickly lol ;D
I was the one who brought this up since someone asked and my work colleague just happens to be asian and like I said dating a super hot white girl 2 heads taller than him, lucky bastard. Still dont know how he did it >:(
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You guys only want to have sex not even a girlfriend reading your posts. Go to Germany and get the Iphone app called "pepper" the website is pepper.it say your in Germany and your zip code is google frankfurt zip code okay? Really good looking girl on there name is Sinderlla about 180 euros an hour totally legal she's 163cm. ERMAHGERD.. She's amazing by the way makes you feel awesome and then she like touches you and she hits all the spots exactly where they are like she is getting you hard then she goes down. Oh man go to Germany and spend 5,000 Euros there and have sex with her and then another one she's like 180cm but she's really hot yea I would bang her to hell bang em both 400 euros an hour woohoo. Go there for like MLK day and take off Friday.
Okay here is what you should download the Ipad / iphone app from pepper.it then look for the girl named Elena and then the other one named Sinderlla Bang Sinderlla after your flight she lives in Frankfurt by the way. Eelena is a lot taller but she is super hot walk around with her spend 5 hours being cool. Sunday so you spent $1500 there and back for ticket fked Sinderlla for 2 hours that's 360 euros now your with elena she's 180 as well that's 720 euros. Spend sunday banging both for one hour each then bang sinderlla till your flight leaves. Go back to America make sure you come back with a fully pleasured penis go to work and stop worrying about women. Try going to school in IT or English and come to Germany to teach that and have sex with Sinderlla every week and your totally going to love German live. No one cares by the way they will even let you have sex in public in some places, and they also play along and the Germans love you but they are not total douche bags like in other countries.
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http://i.imgur.com/k12OzGe.png
That's the girl in Frankfurt
This is Elena the tall one but she has got something going on that you got to punish for real -__-
http://i.imgur.com/lkdG1Bu.png
Here is the second one I was talking about Elena
so yea do what I said get confident and live life.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=p67n2XHRVb8 thats what happens with short guys
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KirP1 Thanks for the video. I can see this is how Ajax2020 goes about picking up girls. Nobody living in the civilized world in his right mind this day and age would walk up to a stranger, and in a cheap English accent, ask, "would you go out with me?" I understand this is intended to be a comedy gag, but at the end of the day, this 169cm kid would come home and blame his failure on his height. But as we can see, it's his lack of tactical skill that was his failure.
Here is Cajun, 5'7, picking up girls. For the losers who blame the world on his height, maybe you should consider improving your educational background and communication skill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIsoproa1qo
Don't be jealous that I can get to my Dream height and you can't.
I'm not jealous of your dream height as I never want to be that high. But there is something seriously flawed in your thinking or maybe you are trying to be sarcastic. However, I have yet to discover your sense of humour. If what you wrote is really what you believed, then you should really need to seek psychiatrist help.
I have. People who were 6'2" plus would stick there tongue at me in high school and it really upset me. My sister would call me short at 6'1" and would get angry at me and say "Your 6'1"!" When all I would do is exaggerate my height by 1" stupid inch like as if I was some guy who was caught stealing and needed to tell the truth! But it's safe to say %100 of people doing cosmetic ll are suffering from height disphoria and will see a psychologist. I think they are doing an evaluation to see if one will survive the process and are already aware that these people have height dysphoria. I have never been institutionalized due to my height so I should be okayed to do ll but have been institutionalized due to other things in life.
Dude... I don't really need to write a lengthy post on why being 6'1 or 6'2 is not short. Maybe you are trying to be sarcastic but I have yet to discover your sense of humour. And you have also been institutionalized. Maybe that explains it.
But hey... if you have just one sensible reason on why you want to be taller, we're all here to support one another on achieving our goal. Otherwise, sorry, but no one will take your comment seriously. Others will see you as an eTroll or eBrag or eTard.
Joel There is no fun in hiring someone for sex... not to mention laying in bed with a woman who only lays there for your money. It's just like cheating on a test. You haven't achieve anything and you can't brag to your friends about your accomplishment. Seduction is about overcoming a challenge and reducing your opponent resistance (in this case, a girl) and taking away her most precious.
Shorty Well said. I fully agreed.
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You're such a cool guy who speaks the truth it's great
Thank you I know.
Based on what though? Your stereotypes? Lol...
Next you'll say all black men are murderers, rapist, drug dealers, jobless and etc...
You clearly missed the point I was trying to make about geography(your country) What you've just typed up are only what you see in your country, not everywhere else and last I checked America isnt the whole world, assuming you live in America
Western country - westerners = heroes
Asian country - asians = heroes
Simple concept really, so of course there are NO movies where the asian ethnic person is the hero.... if you live in a western country
It amazes me how this forum gets off topic so quickly lol ;D
I was the one who brought this up since someone asked and my work colleague just happens to be asian and like I said dating a super hot white girl 2 heads taller than him, lucky bastard. Still dont know how he did it >:(
Yeah I know. What I'm saying is you'll watch movies in the american media where the protagonist is white and the villain is asian but In asian movies it's always an Asian guy against an Asian guy.
As for black men, a lot do have a rep for doing criminal activity not all but if they are acting hostile then I'll assume that the person is probably someone who is dangerous to be around. Of course in other countries the protagonist isn't a white guy cause there are no white people to begin with to watch the movies.
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KirP1 Thanks for the video. I can see this is how Ajax2020 goes about picking up girls. Nobody living in the civilized world in his right mind this day and age would walk up to a stranger, and in a cheap English accent, ask, "would you go out with me?" I understand this is intended to be a comedy gag, but at the end of the day, this 169cm kid would come home and blame his failure on his height. But as we can see, it's his lack of tactical skill that was his failure.
Here is Cajun, 5'7, picking up girls. For the losers who blame the world on his height, maybe you should consider improving your educational background and communication skill.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIsoproa1qo
I'm not jealous of your dream height as I never want to be that high. But there is something seriously flawed in your thinking or maybe you are trying to be sarcastic. However, I have yet to discover your sense of humour. If what you wrote is really what you believed, then you should really need to seek psychiatrist help.
Dude... I don't really need to write a lengthy post on why being 6'1 or 6'2 is not short. Maybe you are trying to be sarcastic but I have yet to discover your sense of humour. And you have also been institutionalized. Maybe that explains it.
But hey... if you have just one sensible reason on why you want to be taller, we're all here to support one another on achieving our goal. Otherwise, sorry, but no one will take your comment seriously.
I can't believe you believe in that PUA crap. There is no proof PUA works. The PUA instructors just walk around claiming their method works and hire women to support them and pay them next to nothing. It's no different than an owner of a company hires people and paying them next to nothing to be their employee.
I said several times before that my ll is arbitrary. Allthough my parents would do stupid to me in regards to it cause I grew really fast and ended up being a lot shorter than I expected. I was uncomfortable with how fast I grew but slowed down at about 15 and finished at 16 allthough it's very common for boys to finish growing at 16. I may have dramatized my reason for CLL a bit but I hated being so tall when I was young. I want to be at least 6'2" which I'm not far from but probably gonna aim for 6'3" with Salameh but I doubt I'll be able to pay him in full so I'll probably have to find a way o finance the operation.
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Ajax2thousnd20
Yeah, I partly agree with you. Some stuffs are crap... like how they mention that you have to act like a stuck-up and high-class... and some even goes as far as to tell you to treat women like t so that they will fall in love with you. Well, some PUAs are tall and good-looking to begin with, so they can pull off something which no short man can pull off. But for us, guys who are shorter than 5'9 and broke, it's a lot harder for us to act like stuck-up and high-class before someone discover that we have nothing to back up our confident.
Well, in general, you have to pick and choose what stuffs work for you. I agree with acting confident and having good social skills.. but being a stuck-up and putting women down won't work for me.
I said several times before that my ll is arbitrary.
So your reason for your life-changing decision to pursue LL is arbitrary. The last time I check up the arbitrary in the dictionary - the meaning is randomness or happens by chance. So you wants to do LL by random. That doesn't make sense for me but it may make sense for other people.
I think 6'2 is already a bit too tall for the club in my city. Most girls are from 5'0 to 5'6. Being that much taller would actually scare them away. But everyone is different. Anyway, I'm in the same boat as you financially. So maybe we may have the same choice for LL doctors.
Yeah I know. What I'm saying is you'll watch movies in the american media where the protagonist is white and the villain is asian but In asian movies it's always an Asian guy against an Asian guy.
As for black men, a lot do have a rep for doing criminal activity not all but if they are acting hostile then I'll assume that the person is probably someone who is dangerous to be around. Of course in other countries the protagonist isn't a white guy cause there are no white people to begin with to watch the movies.
I don't like to bring up racism. My roommate in India was also black and I was completely safe. No crime every happenned to me. Also, I don't want to be an advocate for Asians as I also think some Asian men are a bit too effeminated. It's not unusual for Asian men in Korea, Japan and China to be putting on make-up. That puts me off. But to balance your comment, there are the youtube videos below where an Asian man is the star. This is really rare but I think that anyone who is hard-working enough and has talent can always make it up to the top regardless of his height and race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtZNvK3fTlM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_nNdI1K6Q0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_AJTgxBqpg
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I mean arbitrary as a personal preference. I know anything more than 6'2" is gonna diminish returns from women. As for my comment about asian men as heroes and white men as antagonists they're are always exceptions but it's the general rule in American or asian media.
Some women like feminine features on men actually quite a bit do but only in the face not really in the body. The PUA thing is garbage. Ask any man who has a 9 or a 10 if they got her by using PUA techniques and the answer will always be no unless he's a PUA of course. It's a huge world out there and a lot of women aren't looking for an alpha male. I do claim 6'2" and wear lifts and have taken my shoes off and %0 of people have questioned it so I'm not worried of being caught. I think my ll quest is probably based on family issues to be honest. I do have trouble getting dates with women but I seriously doubt that my height neurosis is the reason. I think I need more activities where I can meet women but I really want a Mexican girlfriend and am a bit frustrated because a lot of them seem to date Mexican and black men. I'm really not an mentally ill person I just have unresolved issues with family and people off the past who upset me.
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Very easy for me here the accent and the looks help , I have slept with over 52 girls , whites aisans and Latinos , never black girls tho I regret 7 of them not cuz they are fat cuz I was drunk and they weren't very cute I would not fk them if I was sober , having gf is very easy I have dumped 2 this year and I don't want anymore I get board fast .
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fkn 3 at the same time , 1white girl 25 blonde, two 19 years old Latinos one of them at least 9.5 she is really hot .
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Why'd you have to do like 5 posts on this? And we have no validation who actually sent those texts.
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Cuz I can , and u can believe it's fake if that would make u feel better
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Stop posting pictures of me and my girlfriend, Shortie!
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Lol I thought u wouldn't tell bro
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Mexican women generally date short latino guys regardless of what you've heard. I've never seen one with a tall caucasian man so that's saying there is a chance. I guess it's just as hard as a caucasian male to get a hispanic female.
this is the most stupid thing I ever heard in my entire life cuz I see that everyday , my roommate is 5'10 white and he bangs Latinos all the time
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I never said they were fake you illiterate moron. I said there's no way to validate them. I don't care post 1000000 stories on white guys getting latina women, I'm just saying I've almost never seen a fine Mexican female with a caucasian male in my experience. Seen several Latino men white women. Most the time they were 6s and below and it was extremely rare to see them with White men.
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I never said they were fake you illiterate moron. I said there's no way to validate them. I don't care post 1000000 stories on white guys getting latina women, I'm just saying I've almost never seen a fine Mexican female with a caucasian male in my experience. Seen several Latino men white women. Most the time they were 6s and below and it was extremely rare to see them with White men.
hahahaa
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Shortie
Wow, you really did answered the OP original question.
If you have a chance, you should write a diary detailing your adventure and pre-LL experience.
I just saw the pictures you posted. A girl by the name of Penny asked you if she could come over to "fk you." Geez, what kind of woman name herself Penny these days and offered to sleep with you. You are one lucky guy. Good job bro!
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I will try bro btw her name is Ashley , penny is a nick name I choosed for her due to a funny story happend with her before , and for her asking me to fk cuz I fked her before and she liked it . What I am trying to say it's not really hard to have sex with beautiful women at 5'7 or even having a beautiful girl friend , height does matter but not much as most of people say here. U must really have a good game to get women even at 6'2
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Getting a girlfriend can be extremely difficult if you don't have friends or social proof.
You don't need "game" or "PUA skills" to get one. I don't know if I said it before in this thread
but the best way to get a girl of any kind is to do an recreational activity in your community and make friends with the people around it then they'll introduce you to women they know. College is another great place but really you should just focus on having a great time and women will follow.
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Shortie
Wow, you really did answered the OP original question.
If you have a chance, you should write a diary detailing your adventure and pre-LL experience.
I just saw the pictures you posted. A girl by the name of Penny asked you if she could come over to "f**k you." Geez, what kind of woman name herself Penny these days and offered to sleep with you. You are one lucky guy. Good job bro!
not sure if srs or sarcastic. lol
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Srs?
Here comes the ll misc crew lol
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What's going on in this thread?
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What's going on in this thread?
All threads drift away. At this point get legit answer from one member. The rest
will just hear the sound of their voice.
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Just like that horrible thread I started on old forum . It was awful.
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Depends on your social circle and personality. If you are a short and musical guy, then your height won't be much of a drawback. However, if you are short and macho guy, then your height is a serious drawback. It is all about the total package, and most importantly cohesion.
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I'm 5'8ish. I shrink to 5'7.5 at evening but I'm 5'8 in morning / with shoes on. I found out few things with regards to romance/relationships.
1-Shorter the girl is more likely she will be more obsessed about height. Girls 5'6 and above were less caring about my height than say girls below 5'3, 5'4 (Ironically I also prefer tall women, as all humans want to create offspring in the middle)
2-Having been to both sides of being very fit/muscular and obese, I would say that short guys do not have the luxury of being unfit/ungroomed. And there are tremendous differences between being fit / well groomed and being the opposite. Being short kinda exaggerates all your negative traits. I found out that for women a fat short guy is far more repulsive than a fat tall guy.
3-I find it easy to get laid, hook up, but I had struggle in relationships. And my height was always one issue, if not the main. I'ma quite a serious and untalkative person so I can't attribute my success in getting laid to my personality, and it mostly happened in environments where physical attractiveness reigned over personal charm (Clubs, Frat Parties etc) What I think is this: If a girl likes you she will dismiss your height for the short term. If she likes blondes and you are blonde, if you are her type, if she finds you cute etc etc and it will only be a "casual thing" she will likely ignore your height. I'm sure there were plenty of women who did not find me attractive solely on my height but still that did not prevented me from having fun with women. Being fit also helped a lot.
4-Where my height prevented me was in relationships. In almost every serious relationship I had, my height come into discussion more than once. I never even had a height obsession before my first serious relationship (which was after few hookups). In relationships you become a status symbol for the women you are dating, she will show you off to her friends (which will regularly talk how short you are and/or how tall their bf is) and to her parents (sometimes they too will join in the banter). After my break ups (some good / some very bad) I asked either to my ex or to her friends etc about what did she find bad about me, and in all instances my height come into the question.
Of course height is an attractive trait for women but I think if you are just into having sex your height will be much less of an issue than if you are searching for a serious relationship. You get an easy pass on your height by being a boytoy/fkbuddy than being a boy friend.
Some might say this is anecdotal, and I would agree but I also find out many other fellow short guys (Not short short but still shorter than average, I would say guys between 5'6-5'9 ) had struggles in relationships. My family/friends say that "If your girlfriend cares more about your height than you personality etc etc, then you shouldn't date with her in first place", but It does not start like that, I think they ignore the height issue at first as in a hook up but after few weeks, (also with constant peer pressure) they kinda think "I can do better" and began fall out in love with you.
TL/DR : I found out that hooking up with women in short term far more easier than having a long term relationship.
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I'm the macho short guy. fk the musical .
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Not hard at all, the only question should be how hard is it to keep her from getting snatched.
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I'm 5'8ish. I shrink to 5'7.5 at evening but I'm 5'8 in morning / with shoes on. I found out few things with regards to romance/relationships.
1-Shorter the girl is more likely she will be more obsessed about height. Girls 5'6 and above were less caring about my height than say girls below 5'3, 5'4 (Ironically I also prefer tall women, as all humans want to create offspring in the middle)
2-Having been to both sides of being very fit/muscular and obese, I would say that short guys do not have the luxury of being unfit/ungroomed. And there are tremendous differences between being fit / well groomed and being the opposite. Being short kinda exaggerates all your negative traits. I found out that for women a fat short guy is far more repulsive than a fat tall guy.
3-I find it easy to get laid, hook up, but I had struggle in relationships. And my height was always one issue, if not the main. I'ma quite a serious and untalkative person so I can't attribute my success in getting laid to my personality, and it mostly happened in environments where physical attractiveness reigned over personal charm (Clubs, Frat Parties etc) What I think is this: If a girl likes you she will dismiss your height for the short term. If she likes blondes and you are blonde, if you are her type, if she finds you cute etc etc and it will only be a "casual thing" she will likely ignore your height. I'm sure there were plenty of women who did not find me attractive solely on my height but still that did not prevented me from having fun with women. Being fit also helped a lot.
4-Where my height prevented me was in relationships. In almost every serious relationship I had, my height come into discussion more than once. I never even had a height obsession before my first serious relationship (which was after few hookups). In relationships you become a status symbol for the women you are dating, she will show you off to her friends (which will regularly talk how short you are and/or how tall their bf is) and to her parents (sometimes they too will join in the banter). After my break ups (some good / some very bad) I asked either to my ex or to her friends etc about what did she find bad about me, and in all instances my height come into the question.
Of course height is an attractive trait for women but I think if you are just into having sex your height will be much less of an issue than if you are searching for a serious relationship. You get an easy pass on your height by being a boytoy/fkbuddy than being a boy friend.
Some might say this is anecdotal, and I would agree but I also find out many other fellow short guys (Not short short but still shorter than average, I would say guys between 5'6-5'9 ) had struggles in relationships. My family/friends say that "If your girlfriend cares more about your height than you personality etc etc, then you shouldn't date with her in first place", but It does not start like that, I think they ignore the height issue at first as in a hook up but after few weeks, (also with constant peer pressure) they kinda think "I can do better" and began fall out in love with you.
TL/DR : I found out that hooking up with women in short term far more easier than having a long term relationship.
I don't think anyone would make fun of my height to me, besides for a few morons. Man or woman, I'd break their nose.
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Unless we are a 4ft midgit or elephant man ugly, we have no problem getting laid.
I could get laid every single day if I wanted to...........provided I stooped to a certain level .
Relationships are the key. The woman has to introduce you to her friends, and then her family and then consider shrimp children who will be mocked.
Black guys used to have the hardest time with this. They could nail alll kinds of white chicks but as soon as their family called, they denied that they were dating the guy.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=G945KzE51jA
This made me cry a little
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=G945KzE51jA
This made me cry a little
Yeah, I saw that. But, come on, we are all aware that some women are phucking retarded. I mean, rejecting a good looking dude because he is short is like a guy rejecting a hot young lady with a nice ass because her boobs are too small. There are always morons in the world.
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Yeah, I saw that. But, come on, we are all aware that some women are phucking retarded. I mean, rejecting a good looking dude because he is short is like a guy rejecting a hot young lady with a nice ass because her boobs are too small. There are always morons in the world.
Exactly, then that "woman" is not worth it. If we are to discriminate against the amount of tissue on her chest, or the amount of bone cells on he's legs, then we wouldn't be born short.
Nothing but brainless teenagers.
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rejecting a good looking dude because he is short is like a guy rejecting a young lady because she is FAT.
girls wont date midgets, men wont date obese women. deal with it.
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Midgets my ass. We are more proportionate and put together than those tall people who luckily had the wingspan to cover up their 75% leg length ratio.
If there was no discrimination id stay the way i am now 100%. Being tall is frikking horsey.
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it depends on how short you are, if your are under 5´7 is really dificult if you are 5´7 or taller then it will be not so dificult
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I'd say it's something like this:
(Average looking face and body)
5'5-5'7-More difficult
5'7-5'9-Slightly more difficult
(Good-looking with great body, alpha personality)
5'5-5'7-slightly easier
5'7-5'9-easy
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Yeah, I saw that. But, come on, we are all aware that some women are phucking retarded. I mean, rejecting a good looking dude because he is short is like a guy rejecting a hot young lady with a nice ass because her boobs are too small. There are always morons in the world.
No. Rejecting a good looking guy because he is short is the same as us rejecting a pretty girl because she is noticeably overweight.
The boob thing is equivalent to penis size.
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I disagree. I mean, there are a good chunk of Hollywood male sex symbols whom are short or have been short. There are short male strippers. There are no overweight Hollywood female sex symbols, nor have there ever been. There are no fat female strippers outside of some really, really shady clubs. I mean, Zac Efron and Josh Hutcherson are 5'7 and 5'5 respectively, and both dudes instantly wet panties on sight.
Oh, and there is no such thing as a pretty overweight woman. Being overweight as a woman = repulsive and unattractive beyond redemption.
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I'd say it's something like this:
(Average looking face and body)
5'5-5'7-More difficult
5'7-5'9-Slightly more difficult
(Good-looking with great body, alpha personality)
5'5-5'7-slightly easier
5'7-5'9-easy
I have never seen an alpha personality at 5'9
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I disagree. I mean, there are a good chunk of Hollywood male sex symbols whom are short or have been short. There are short male strippers. There are no overweight Hollywood female sex symbols, nor have there ever been. There are no fat female strippers outside of some really, really shady clubs. I mean, Zac Efron and Josh Hutcherson are 5'7 and 5'5 respectively, and both dudes instantly wet panties on sight.
Oh, and there is no such thing as a pretty overweight woman. Being overweight as a woman = repulsive and unattractive beyond redemption.
they only appeal 16 y old teens
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I'm alpha as fk at 5'7, so there's that.
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Which means something--because 16-year-old girls are much more shallow than any other demographic.
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Which means something--because 16-year-old girls are much more shallow than any other demographic.
no, because they haven't matured into women
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Something tells me that Hallijah doesn't like short men.
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Something tells me that Hallijah doesn't like short men.
that would be incorrect, just not something I'd loon up to and want to be
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your height doesnt determine if youre alpha or not, you do.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=G945KzE51jA
This made me cry a little
Poor guy is so beta to date that stupid bitch.
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So true.
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Poor guy is so beta to date that stupid bitch.
She's so shallow..Like her pussy *cough *cough
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She's so shallow..Like her pussy *cough *cough
She's beyond shallow. She has reached a whole new level of shallow.
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She's beyond shallow. She has reached a whole new level of shallow.
"The abyss women" actually thats not bad. Im gonna start use that.
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This:
http://rationalmale.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/everyday-comments-funny-2976.jpeg?w=490
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This:
http://rationalmale.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/everyday-comments-funny-2976.jpeg?w=490
Amen
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It's one of the reasons I feel really bad for dudes shorter than me. I can manage at 5'7, but dudes shorter than me with great facial aesthetics and everything else on the list get a raw deal just because they are short. Of course, if you are a really alpha dude, like Eazy-E whom was 5'4, you can have a much easier time in the dating game, but it's still pretty unfair.
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It's one of the reasons I feel really bad for dudes shorter than me. I can manage at 5'7, but dudes shorter than me with great facial aesthetics and everything else on the list get a raw deal just because they are short. Of course, if you are a really alpha dude, like Eazy-E whom was 5'4, you can have a much easier time in the dating game, but it's still pretty unfair.
5'7" is close enough to average to not be too disadvantaged. But under that the disadvantages increase exponentially. There are guys out there like Easy. Kevin Hart, Seth green, Mugsy Bogues... But there are not many
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Good thing we have leg lengthenjng, am I right? But, I just wanted to prove that you can become the type of guy women drool over at 5'4, but it takes a really, really alpha personality.
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women will not drool over any man that is 5'4....
the guys you mentioned are famous... and I don't know many women that would drool over muggsy bogues, eazy e, or seth green... even with their money
5'7 is the cutoff between a midget and normal guy in the eyes of women... but even then, most women are gonna require 5'8 or 5'9
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Buddy, if that were true, I would've been prowling the night, slaughtering women long ago.
Eazy-E has sex with so many women that he had seven kids and died of aids--from straight sex. Do you know how hard it is to actually get HIV from straight sex? It's almost impossible.
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Buddy, if that were true, I would've been prowling the night, slaughtering women long ago.
Eazy-E has sex with so many women that he had seven kids and died of aids--from straight sex. Do you know how hard it is to actually get HIV from straight sex? It's almost impossible.
Quite Eazy I would say depending on the situation...
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Quite Eazy I would say depending on the situation...
lol I see what you did there.
But, seriously, the odds of contracting HIV from an individual whom is tested positive for the disease, assuming we are talking about straight sex, is like 1 in 1000. Eazy had to be having a lot of sex.
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lol I see what you did there.
But, seriously, the odds of contracting HIV from an individual whom is tested positive for the disease, assuming we are talking about straight sex, is like 1 in 1000. Eazy had to be having a lot of sex.
Might've have had a gay phase ._.
I never knew the odds were that low, but I'm still going to stick to the rubber.
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You definitely have to wear the rubber for sure lol
HIV isn't the only killer out there.
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Where I live the odds are very low for short guys (no pun intended).
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To get a gal or to get hiv?
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To get a gal.
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Ah, where do you love?
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Ah, where do you love?
In Puerto Rico.