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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Information About Limb Lengthening => Topic started by: just_me on March 15, 2015, 09:17:09 AM

Title: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: just_me on March 15, 2015, 09:17:09 AM
Is it OK to take shower and also shower the fixators if there are pin-site infections?
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: ForcedPuberty on March 15, 2015, 09:31:51 AM
i think no.

but I haven't asked.
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: ItsMyLife on March 15, 2015, 09:59:00 AM
No.
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: crimsontide on March 15, 2015, 12:51:45 PM
showering with fixators is a good thing

not sure about when have infection... but im guessing yes to that as welll


but showering with fixators on is usually highly recommended
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on March 15, 2015, 06:20:46 PM
I never took a shower and never got a pin infection.  Yeah, the sample size is 1 but I think keeping moisture to a minimum is for the best, that's why I refused to shower the whole time I was there.
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: just_me on March 15, 2015, 06:26:24 PM
@Medium Drink Of Water! How long time did you have the fixators on your legs?
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: crimsontide on March 15, 2015, 06:31:56 PM
taking showers with the fixators is recommended by dr rozbruch,...

in russia or india, they do things differently, but in  non third world nations,  showering is not discouraged

i didnt take a shower  based on  bagirov's advice... i  definitely had multiple pinsite infections

id say 99% of people will get a pinsite infection.... showering is recommended by the top drs
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on March 15, 2015, 10:44:02 PM
@Medium Drink Of Water! How long time did you have the fixators on your legs?

5 months.
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: Joel on March 16, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
5 months.
wtf you didn't shower for 5 months bro do u even hygiene ?
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: Keep Growing on September 10, 2015, 09:38:41 AM
You can use some bandage covers for showering: http://www.mobilitycentre.co.nz/product/1127882
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: KiloKAHN on September 10, 2015, 10:02:24 AM
One the staples were removed for the tib and fib osteotomies, Parihar okayed showering with the frames on. Just have to make sure to dry off thoroughly and change your dressings afterward.
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: Taller on September 10, 2015, 10:10:51 AM
wtf you didn't shower for 5 months bro do u even hygiene ?

Lol I was wondering the same. Was your hair crusted solid by the end of the 5 months?
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on September 10, 2015, 06:31:35 PM
Nah, my hair was actually fine, and as long as I kept my armpits shaved and used deodorant I didn't smell bad.  People and animals have lived for millions of years without needing to bathe constantly.
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: ibuse on March 18, 2018, 11:58:09 PM
I never asked my doctor, but everyone at least used trash bags while showering. I did bird baths at the sink until I had my frame removed. But we also weren't allowed to drink the water, so showering is not something I wanted to do. Also, we were wrapped in bandages at our pin sites and had them cleaned/changed weekly, so getting wet was not ideal. One girl I knew got an infection, and she showered with trash bags and put oil/girly products on her skin. So I suspect that's what triggered it, because the rest of us never got an infection with the once a week bandage change.
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: zaozari on February 17, 2022, 06:12:03 PM
I have decided to start my LL plan by tibias and externals. The disadvantages are bearing the bulky fixators and control the pins infection.
There's some debate around if it's better having shower or simply not because "clean" water is of course also still a source of microbes despite abundance of soap and pin aftercare.

I would like to ask those who have already done it or anybody else who might have known something, for example doctors advice, if the article in the following link may help.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bloccs-Child-Short-Waterproof-Cover/dp/B007UONM2C/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?crid=2C7G35E3095OJ&keywords=bloccs+waterproof+cast+cover&qid=1645120847&sprefix=bloccs%2Caps%2C183&sr=8-8

However I would still don't know if there's an adult size elastic enough that can be put in place due to bulkiness of fixators....
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: zaozari on February 18, 2022, 03:10:10 PM
The full circunference of these seems to be 28 + 28 = 56 cm.
Does any of the veterans having done tibias with externals think this is enough to pass through the fixators up and protect pins legs down?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B07DFPVYDH/ref=sspa_mw_detail_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9kZXRhaWw
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: zaozari on February 18, 2022, 06:05:18 PM
I'm searching accomodation near the hospitals where I may do LL because I need to have a full budget and prefer to maybe make reservations that I can still cancel with some anticipation.
But, let alone stairs,  I wonder: in one of the cheapest, the bathroom has a bathtub, not a simple. shower.
Do you think I will have range of motion or any other problem entering a bathtub with externals on tibias? I may have aid but still....
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: Sorcerer on March 21, 2022, 12:33:58 AM
You can clean your body with wet towel and eliminate the bad smells with deodorants.
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: Pikachu on July 07, 2022, 03:04:44 PM
Is it safe to wash your lower leg if you have a fixator on Femur? Also is there way that you guys can suggest to cover the leg while having a shower? I have already read that water interaction should be avoided during the lengthening but man, I cannot think months without having a shower. If anyone has an idea to make this easier please inform me as well.
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: boklecrt on July 08, 2022, 01:45:47 AM
Internal nails - full body shower/swimming pool after 2 weeks for the wounds to heal

Externals:
1. tibia external - with a trash bag secured with scotch tape above the knees; make sure NO water goes into the bag. Preferably timed with change of bandages immediately after surgery to reduce moisture.
When you remove the trash bags be careful to roll it on itself not to get any water on the bandages or the frame.
Optional - hair dryer on cold setting after removal of trash bags if you cant get a bandage change right after

2. femur external - no showering for the duration of the frame. Clean ass with wet wipes after toilet and armpits and crotch with a wet towel. You chose hardmode LL, deal with it
Title: Re: Pin-site infections and shower
Post by: sphenopetroclival on May 16, 2023, 01:47:51 PM
Is it OK to take shower and also shower the fixators if there are pin-site infections?

You would ask your LL physician; an online forum like this isn't going to consistently yield credible clinical advice.