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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Discussions => Topic started by: abo on April 08, 2015, 09:54:26 AM

Title: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: abo on April 08, 2015, 09:54:26 AM
Even if you only do 5cm on your tibia?!

would be greatful for repaly!
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Uppland on April 08, 2015, 01:10:48 PM
Technically yes, a complete return to your previous abilities should be impossible due to changed biomechanics. However at least two patients have claimed to recover completely, this means they appear to have suffered no long term loss in athletic ability -at least so far.

Both patients lengthened their femur bones 7CM with Dr. Guichet in Italy.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: abo on April 08, 2015, 01:32:07 PM
Technically yes, a complete return to your previous abilities should be impossible due to changed biomechanics. However at least two patients have claimed to recover completely, this means they appear to have suffered no long term loss in athletic ability -at least so far.

Both patients lengthened their femur bones 7CM with Dr. Guichet in Italy.

But is 5cm that much of a differncen?! i could even go down to like 4,5cm
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: crimsontide on April 13, 2015, 07:18:44 PM
what is your deformity, eye?


and how long since surgery
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: abo on April 14, 2015, 11:57:02 AM
what is your deformity, eye?


and how long since surgery

Well 5cm and about 1-2year? be 100% after doing it? or impossibole?
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: KrP1 on April 14, 2015, 12:26:31 PM
you guys are understimating LL, even if you do 5cm i dont think you will get your 100% back. you will expect to have a good recovery but maybe not that
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: crimsontide on April 14, 2015, 12:29:04 PM
expect maybe 90% recovery... but  expect that to take up to 2 years

just being realistic with you
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: abo on April 14, 2015, 12:33:26 PM
Hmm i just readed this on redit...

http://www.reddit.com/r/short/comments/15bxay/

He claim to be 100/110% better after his LL surgery but then he only did "4,5cm" so i don't know?

What is it i will loss? i have never been a fast runner, i can run 4-5km in 20min or when i was fitt my best time was 50min in 10km! will i still be able to do it?! and will i still be able to do BJJ! according to this guy it seems realistic... then im all in for doing 5cm!
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: crimsontide on April 14, 2015, 12:36:58 PM
he can claim that... thats fine


i suggest you to read the diaries on here and the other site

i would say that 99% of the patients say it takes 1.5 to 2 years to get very normal... but still not 100%

you shouldn't expect to be  that 1 in a 1000 case

Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: abo on April 14, 2015, 12:39:53 PM
he can claim that... thats fine


i suggest you to read the diaries on here and the other site

i would say that 99% of the patients say it takes 1.5 to 2 years to get very normal... but still not 100%

you shouldn't expect to be  that 1 in a 1000 case

What can i say ;)! i have broke my legs before and im perfectely fine :P!
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: KrP1 on April 14, 2015, 12:47:43 PM
What can i say ;)! i have broke my legs before and im perfectely fine :P!

but you didnt lengthen them.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: crimsontide on April 14, 2015, 12:49:45 PM
kirk:)))

breaking a leg isn't the issue

i need to get my left leg rebroken to fix alignment... i will heal quickly


the issues start happening when you stretch the soft tissue.. breaking a leg is not the same as lengthening a leg
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: OldieButGoldie on April 14, 2015, 04:12:18 PM
kirk:)))

breaking a leg isn't the issue

i need to get my left leg rebroken to fix alignment... i will heal quickly


the issues start happening when you stretch the soft tissue.. breaking a leg is not the same as lengthening a leg
Exactly.
You will never be like before.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: crimsontide on April 14, 2015, 04:21:36 PM
yes... i think that... not as before

but  after 1.5 to 2 years, should be normal,feel fine...  walk fine, maybe run fine...but not the same abilities as before
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Deepak Chopra on April 14, 2015, 08:09:01 PM
You can probably get to 110% because your legs get longer so therefore stronger than before after you have recovered.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: crimsontide on April 14, 2015, 08:21:31 PM
yyyyyyyyyeah... i dont think so


why a longer leg is a stronger leg... no idea

in fact its the exact opposite for  soft tissue.. lengthening weakens them

i dont  know why people   delude themselves..... accept the positives about lengthening.... you get taller

thats about it actually, but its a big big plus
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Tyler_Durden on April 14, 2015, 11:24:34 PM
longer legs > bigger steps > which results for faster running.

But still it doesn't mean you will be faster of course it all depends on your recovering period.
anyway if you are not athlete you are not going to use your 100% anyway
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Alittletooshort on April 15, 2015, 12:11:47 AM
My orthopaedic told me exactly what crimsontide is saying all the time.
Deepak Chopra, you are just being extremly unrealistic. Your soft tissue gets stretched out in an unnatural way and therfore gets weakened.
The next thing that will make 100% recovery very hard, is the fact that your biomechanics are changed by the lengthening.
Longer legs only result in better sportive performances if they are naturally long and not lengthened like it's the case for us.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Overdozer on April 15, 2015, 12:21:16 AM
Who cares anyways. It's not like you've ever been to your 100% in the first place, lol. Or even 50%. Seriously, reading all that noise about full recovery, you'd imagine everyone here is a professional athlete, a fking champion, preparing to take the world trophy or something. Get real.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: crimsontide on April 15, 2015, 12:36:01 AM
no one here has been 50%???

really???

i think u need to look at  diaries.....  rgkey cant run... been almost 2 years

took sweden over 2 years to get to 80%

guy i know took 15 months to walk sort of normal

 other diaries pretty much say the same... im not even  mentioning the disasters.. but  the average experience

to say it doesnt matter or only impacts athletes is a bit bizarre

rgkey still says he feels a bid odd...  not talking about marathons here... but walking

after lengthening u can live a normal life again eventually... but  people need to realize how long and hard this is...

after you lengthen, then consolidate.. you're still not nearly recovered, its  just the beginning... this is the reality... its worth it but pople need to hear how hard this is...






Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Bruno Mars on June 04, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
Technically yes, a complete return to your previous abilities should be impossible due to changed biomechanics. However at least two patients have claimed to recover completely, this means they appear to have suffered no long term loss in athletic ability -at least so far.

Both patients lengthened their femur bones 7CM with Dr. Guichet in Italy.
Do you have their diaries?
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Uppland on June 05, 2015, 02:31:33 AM
Do you have their diaries?

shshy has a diary on this site, christopherbuilder made a thread called something like: "I did ll 12 years ago".
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: RealLostSoul on January 06, 2021, 10:52:47 PM
Truth is it depends on your personal willigness to recover and do PT.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Vibes on February 01, 2021, 02:42:15 AM
Truth is it depends on your personal willigness to recover and do PT.

I think this is key as most people are just naturally lazy, let's face it. But I do wonder...because Paley says you can possible get back to normal daily life in 6 months and sports in 12 but I am not seeing anything like that at all possible based on diaries.

It's a shame we don't have more long-term diaries to pull from but I get it...most people move on after their surgery.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Activatedxx on February 01, 2021, 06:56:29 AM
I think this is key as most people are just naturally lazy, let's face it. But I do wonder...because Paley says you can possible get back to normal daily life in 6 months and sports in 12 but I am not seeing anything like that at all possible based on diaries.

It's a shame we don't have more long-term diaries to pull from but I get it...most people move on after their surgery.


The people having issues either went to bad doctors or over lengthening and are lazy and not trying that hard
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: th on February 03, 2021, 12:02:11 AM
you can get to 100% in running for example if u do 5cm - but not contact sports i would say
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Kal el on February 03, 2021, 12:16:17 AM
U mean like boxing or MMA....wht abt a normal brawl in the back alley with a bully..is it possible to win it or its gonna be a painfull journey to the hospital?
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: th on February 03, 2021, 12:25:07 AM
i meant more like football or rugby - where u need to twist and move off quickly - boxing mma would be similar too in that your natural alignment re footwork is off - in a brawl after a year u can just run off if u hit first first!!  :) hope he don't break uf legs again or back to russia it is man!!  :)😃
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Jamesy998 on February 10, 2021, 06:21:00 PM
You can only know this if you are the Cristiano CRonnie7 or the Usain Bolt in the sport you compete in. Sweden is a perfect example. He was the best at what he competed in so technically it is only people like him that can answer that. For me I did competitive swimming at nationals level so when I do recover as much as I can, maybe I will be able to make a comparison but logically looking at this situation I highly doubt it because we are stretching ourselves to the point that naturally it was never intended. Pushing the body beyong its comfortable limit.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Jcorleone on February 21, 2021, 06:22:30 PM
It's absolutely possible. this surgery is a scientific process. Of course it has risks but all surgeries have risks. You just need to do physical theraphy (physiotherapy) after the surgery and have nutritional diet. Pre-surgery exercises will help you recover faster too.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: 6CMFemurs on February 22, 2021, 05:20:49 PM
What is the point of getting back to "100 percent" unless you are a competitive athlete. If you are not in world-class shape before the op, either A) It won't matter, because you have no competition to judge the minuscule difference between 95-100 percent B) You can always get in better shape if you weren't busting your ass to be at the top of your game pre-op. In that case, you will better 110 percent because you have chosen to train way more than before.

Before I did my op I was obsessed with this stupid notion of 100 percent. Within 6 months post-op, I was getting drunk at frat parties, reconnecting with friends, meeting girls, and enjoying my fking life.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: kpa on February 22, 2021, 07:33:25 PM
you can get to 100% depending on length but not for football or other oxplosice sports
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: John wick on February 22, 2021, 08:13:06 PM
Thats depend on your gastrosoleus muscle. If you have no deserve in it then you have to lenthen them and then you will never recover as before (some doctors won't lenthen this muscle). But if you didn't need it then you will recover but your body will change and you have to adapt with it.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: kpa on February 22, 2021, 08:18:15 PM
what are you on about - if you do tibia a reasonab;e amount then you recover
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: L8GrowthSpurt on February 23, 2021, 05:16:04 AM
Before I did my op I was obsessed with this stupid notion of 100 percent. Within 6 months post-op, I was getting drunk at frat parties, reconnecting with friends, meeting girls, and enjoying my fking life.

Now, that’s a win in my book!! 👍😁💯
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Montreal172 on July 22, 2021, 05:29:04 PM
Yes but people don't have the mental capacity after being draine from months of LL
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: Singapore on July 22, 2021, 06:16:02 PM
Very good question. I am working on it as I pride myself with my athletic ability pre surgery. Only time can tell if I could ever get back to my old self.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: sphenopetroclival on January 28, 2022, 04:35:44 PM
yyyyyyyyyeah... i dont think so


why a longer leg is a stronger leg... no idea

in fact its the exact opposite for  soft tissue.. lengthening weakens them

i dont  know why people   delude themselves..... accept the positives about lengthening.... you get taller

thats about it actually, but its a big big plus

Well, there is this phenomena that when bone is broken and lengthened at tibia it; for some reason grows back much "thicker" than before. Which implies cell proliferation at the area and if true; one could expect to exert more force at this segment once completely recovered. People at this forum are making comments at recovery related stuff we simply don't understand yet
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: tallertree on January 28, 2022, 05:49:13 PM
I did 9cm on femurs and I lost probably 70% of my athletic ability. I would assume its different if you only lengthen your tibias though.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: ReadRothbard on January 28, 2022, 07:08:28 PM
I did 9cm on femurs and I lost probably 70% of my athletic ability. I would assume its different if you only lengthen your tibias though.

Didn't you just stop lengthening a few weeks ago, though?
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: ReadRothbard on January 28, 2022, 07:09:13 PM
The real answer is this is a very complicated question that depends on what you mean by "100% of your athletic ability".
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: tallertree on January 29, 2022, 04:25:20 PM
Didn't you just stop lengthening a few weeks ago, though?
Its been 1,5 years since I had my nail removal.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: ReadRothbard on January 29, 2022, 08:07:30 PM
Its been 1,5 years since I had my nail removal.

My mistake—I got you confused with someone else. Could you please elaborate on the loss of your abilities, though?
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: 6CMFemurs on February 17, 2022, 07:29:30 PM
@ Taller Tree: I felt that way too a couple years post-op. Now I have recovered, even with my nails still in place many years later.
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: balme on August 16, 2022, 02:54:05 AM
wow, are you serious about that? how is your gait? how is your jogging,running performance? also what is your age?
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: boklecrt on August 18, 2022, 01:30:09 AM
I did 9cm on femurs and I lost probably 70% of my athletic ability. I would assume its different if you only lengthen your tibias though.


did you get an ITB release? if not its something to consider even now years later it will help out with your quality of life
Title: Re: Is it impossibole to get 100% Pre you when you have done a LL?!
Post by: balme on August 18, 2022, 03:07:33 AM
is there any known long term side effects of itb release?