Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Doctors => Topic started by: KiloKAHN on July 02, 2015, 07:32:42 PM
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General Information and response from Dr Donghoon Lee from Severance Hospital, Seodaemun-gu, Seoul, South Korea. Contact them for specific information and latest updates.
Note: Previous Thread Linked Here http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=145.18
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Methods of Leg Lengthening
1. Only using an external fixator
2. Hybrid Techniques (LON, LATN, LOP)
3. Intramedullary Lengthening Devices
Lengthening Over Nail (LON)
- Minimum invasive, minimum scar, correct curvature legs simultaneously
- Established surgical method to minimize x-shaped leg occur
- Product - Internal Fixation; ETN®(Synthes, USA), ASLS®(Synthes, USA)
- External Fixator; Ortho SUV®(Russia), Hexapod®(Germany)
Lengthening And Then Nailing (LATN)
- Rehabilitation period shorten over six weeks compared to LON, possible to return back to everyday life quickly, abundant bone regeneration formation
- First time in Korea, successful LATN method
- Possess the nation’s largest number of cases
- Product - Internal Fixation; ETN®(Synthes, USA), ASLS®(Synthes, USA))
- External fixator device; Ortho SUV®(Russia), Hexapod®(Germany)
- Computer-assisted external fixator device (Ortho SUV®, Hexapod®)
Intramedullary Lengthening Devices(PRECICE®- Ellipse, USA)
- Least scars and pain surgical method, lengthening using only the internal fixator without the external fixator
- Possess the nation’s largest number of cases
** Worry-free bone regeneration
- lengthening surgery using combined bone marrow concentration (BMAC) & platelet rich plasma (PRP) therapy which enhances bone regeneration, first established in the world
Recovery
To minimize various complications resulting from limb lengthening, it is recommended that lengthening is performed under 20% of the original bone length, and by an experienced surgeon.
Since the femur is longer than the tibia, generally speaking it is possible to lengthen more when lengthening the femur. However, since the muscles surrounding the femur are very strong, too much lengthening could lead to joint contracture in the hip joint or knee joint, so caution must be taken.
In terms of scars, in the case of the femur, scars near the outer buttocks can be concealed with underwear and all scars (1 cm size) form on the outer thigh, so they cannot be seen from the front or back. They cannot be seen at all if shorts or pants longer than knee length are worn. In the case of the tibia, since scars form on the knee and calf, there is more exposure.
However, over the course of time, these scars fade away, and especially for those with much leg hair, they are not a big problem. In the consideration of scars, the use of internal lengthening nails (like PRECICE) is recommended over external fixators (LON/LATN).
Limb lengthening is a process that involves not only the bone but also the soft tissue surrounding the bone. Especially when muscle is lengthened, even after recovery, sports ability (especially when playing vigorous sports) might not return 100%. The more the bone is lengthened, the more probability sports ability will not fully recover.
According to Park's report (Park HW et al, JBJS, 2008), 25% of the people who lengthen the tibia (6cm in average) was found to have some difficulties in persuing vigorous activity.
If both Tibia and Femur are lengthened sequentially, the maximum to be 10cm in total. But, one more important thing is to consider body ratio. So, I recommend to decide the target considering the safety, recovery of sports activity and body ratio.
My patients need a consultation with me before surgery.
If you have kept up with the exercises (Biking, squats, lunges, water walking, and swimming) for strengthen the front thigh muscle (quadriceps femoris), this will give great help to do the rehabilitation after the surgery. In addition to the thigh muscle exercises, upper-body muscle exercise and stretching exercises as a whole will also help.
Cost (Price valid through 2015)
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! All the payments are charged by Korean money unit (Won) or USD.
! You should pay 80% of cost before administration via wire transfer or credit card (VISA, MASTER CARD, AMERICAN EXPRESS) when you go through the administration process.
!This is rough price for bilateral leg lengthening surgery. It can be different for different situations.
What is covered in the cost of surgery?
1) 7 days of hospitalization for each stage surgery (Except LON 2nd, 3rd, and PRECICE 2nd surgery. Those surgery fees include only 3 days of hospitalization. You don’t need to stay in the hospital longer than that). There is a surcharge for patients staying longer than this.
2) Surgery fees.
3) All implants that is necessary for the surgery.
4) All x-rays and radiology fees during hospital stay.
5) Medications and pharmaceuticals during hospital stay.
6) Wheelchair, walker and bedside commode as needed for post surgery during hospital stay.
7) Wireless Internet.
What is not covered?
1) Fees for care worker
2) Fees for stem-cell therapy; cost \5,000,000.; It will be decided when you have consultation with Dr. Lee. It’s not mandatory.
3) Fees for out-patient clinic; cost around \100,000 ($95) ~ \200,000 ($190) for the first consultation including X-ray fee. - may be some variations according to the prescription; If you choose minimal hospital stay in LON or LATN, you should visit out-patient clinic every two weeks during lengthening periods. In case of PRECICE, you should visit out-patient clinic once a week. Lengthening periods takes about 2months - varies according to the length, the type of surgery (LON/LATN/PRECICE) and individuals.
Hospital Charge When Staying Longer Than 7 Days
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* Normally Severance hospital does not provide 6 person shared room for international patients. This is special offer for leg lengthening patient.
(Hotel site: http://en.ever8.co.kr/)
Accommodation
Since the hospital fee is expensive, we can introduce long stay hotel near hospital. It costs \100,000 per day (around $100) when using Deluxe room and breakfast is not included. The price for breakfast is \11,000 ($10). This price is for Severance Hospital patient staying more than 30 days. So the price on the hotel website is not the price for our patients.
(Hotel site: http://en.ever8.co.kr/)
Total cost
This is the total cost of each surgery for 90 days of hospitalization including 1st and 2nd surgery. (This is approximate price)
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Contact
Website: http://www.drdonghoon.com/ & http://www.bowlegsknockkneesleglengthening.org/
∗ Sinchon Severance Hospital Address : Severance Hospital 250 Seongsanno (134 Sinchon-dong), Seodaemun-gu, Seoul, Korea (Zip Code: 120-749)
∗ Sinchon Severance Hospital Central Resevation Number : (+82) 1599-1004
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Dr. Dong Hoon Lee has a pleasant personality, and seems sincere and honest in his approach, but now that he has moved to Severance he is known to spend the bare minimum of time with his patients.
The issue is that Dr. Lee's medical negligence cost us AN ADDITIONAL almost $10,000 (U.S.) in having to return to Korea, with re-admission to Severance Hospital, for a tissue release surgery, which he should have done while under his care for the first LL surgery.
Dr. Lee always boasts of having studied under eminent LL authority, Dr. Dror Paley, who performs the tissue release surgery as a matter of course, for his LL patients.
Dr. Lee was medically negligent in not having completed proper LL medical treatment, which necessitated a return trip to Korea, with its attendant costs and loss of time.
FOR THOSE POTENTIAL LL PATIENTS, IF YOU DON'T WANT HAVING TO RETURN TO KOREA FOR FOLLOW-UP MEDICAL TREATMENT THAT DR. LEE NEGLIGENTLY FAILED TO PERFORM THE FIRST TIME, YOU MIGHT STEER CLEAR OF DR. DONG HOON LEE.
Moreover, instead of facing up to his negligence, he continues to ignore all of my correspondence.
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im thinking to visit dr lee for my LL ,what do you suggest ?
thanks
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This is not good price!
Donghoon is doctor or business man?
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i am thinking him too, since it is only an hour plane from my province. what do you people think?
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Website: http://www.drdonghoon.com/index.php/home#googtrans(ko|en)
Dr. Donghoon- Sample Video of Patient Walking/Running/Jumping After Surgery:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzS8L_p7Cu0
Dr. Donghoon's Youtube Channel Has Hundreds Of Video's... Youtube Search "Donghoon Lee Surgery"
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Is this for precise 2?
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This guy is crazy if he thinks someone will choose him instead of Paley, their prices are amost the same.
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Am I missing something, how are his prices close to Paley if his price includes accommodation etc for full lenghthening period. Maybe I am not reading quote properly?
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Am I missing something, how are his prices close to Paley if his price includes accommodation etc for full lenghthening period. Maybe I am not reading quote properly?
Ye you are right, paley charges 80k usd but only with PT included.
Rooms look beautiful btw.
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Paley charges 90k for femurs and 100k for tibias with only PT included.
This is why I voted for Donghoon as my top choice. For 75k you get everything included and done for you in a first world country. The guestrooms look awesome. They take you to and from physical therapy everyday. They even pick you up and drop you off at the airport. Your 3 meals a day are prepared and brought to your room for you. Basically you just sit around and do some work on your computer or watch movies or play games on the free wifi when you are not stretching. Seems like a good deal.
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A little expensive but seems reasonable and you have peace of mind that everything is covered.
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hello everyone, I just join couple days ago. I already ask Dr. Dong Hoon couple weeks ago but the price is different, ya? Not everything will be covered.
Internal Lengthening Technique
(PRECICE2) 70,000,000 KRW
- Surgery fee
- Hospital stay in single room (5 nights)
- Medications
- Treatment
- Meals (during hospitalization)
220,000 KRW
- 1 time fee of Doctor’s office visit(including consultation and x-ray fee)
- Need to visit once every two weeks during lengthening period
- Not necessary if you stay in hospital
2,500,000 KRW (Deposit: 5,000,000 KRW)
- ERC(External Remote Controller for Lengthening) rental fee
- Not necessary if you stay in hospital
100,000 KRW
- 50 mins of Personal Physical Therapy
- It is provide free of charge at this moment (promotion).
LON 40,000,000 KRW
- Surgery fee (1st& 2nd surgery)
- Hospital stay in single room
(5 nights for 1st surgery and 2 nights for 2nd surgery)
- Medications
- Treatment
- Meals (during hospitalization, Western style)
220,000 KRW
- 1 time fee of Doctor’s office visit(including consultation and x-ray fee)
- Need to visit once every two weeks during lengthening period
- Not necessary if you stay in hospital
100,000 KRW
- 50 mins of Personal Physical Therapy
- It is provide free of charge at this moment (promotion).
* Extra charge for Accommodation in Hospital
The extra charge for accommodation price in the hospital (per day) as below
- 5 people in 1 room, Korean style meals: 300,000 KRW
- 5 people in 1 room, Western style meals: 380,000 KRW
- 2 people in 1 room: +150,000 KRW
- Single Room: + 250,000 KRW
** Severance hospital doesn’t provide total package price. Since we charge fee on each medical treatment, the whole cost can be varied. It can be different with the cost mentioned in the above, but not much different.
** Korean government impose 10% surtax on cosmetic lengthening surgery (stature lengthening; leg length discrepancy is not included). 10% surtax is not included in the above cost. You need to prepare 10% surtax and it is refunded when you leave Korea.
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Conversion to U.S. Dollar: 10-January-2018
PRECICE 90 Days:
4 Person Shared Room: $68,700
Standard Single Room: $76,200
Prestige Room: $100,150
LON 120 Days:
4 Person Shared: $43,800
Standard Room: $54,100
Prestige Room: $87,000
Note: As detailed above, this is an all inclusive package price.
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Below link to the most extensive library of patient limb lengthening recovery videos and before and after photos available anywhere on the internet.
http://www.drdonghoon.com/index.php/casemovie
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People messaged me to say that the previous link is not pulling up any videos. The link works fine on laptops or desktops, but for mobile phones or tablets it does not work. For some reason Dr. Donghoon Lee's website does not seem to offer the videos on a mobile phone or tablet.
If you are on a mobile phone or tablet use the below link to view the before and after photos on his website. To view the videos continue to use the previous link on a laptop or desktop or you can view all of his videos on your mobile phone or tablet on his YouTube channel. Search "Donghoon Lee" on YouTube, he is the first result with a picture of him performing surgery.
http://www.drdonghoon.com/index.php/case
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This guy must be kidding,with that ammount of money you go with Rozbruch
Don't see any reason to choose him,considering also that he is in South Korea
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This guy must be kidding,with that amount of money you go with Rozbruch
Don't see any reason to choose him
Your statement is true if you are comparing someone who has a U.S. health insurance policy that is accepted by HSS, which will significantly reduce the expense for surgery with Dr. Rozbruch. However, if someone doesn't have a U.S. health insurance policy that is accepted by HSS, then Dr. Rozbruch becomes more expensive than Dr. Paley.
Dr. Donghoon Lee's price is an all inclusive package with meals, accommodation, physical therapy, etc.., factor in those additional expenses if you stay for 90-120 days near Dr. Rozbruch or Dr. Paley and suddenly Dr. Donghoon Lee becomes about half the price in comparison.
The real comparison for Dr. Donghoon Lee's pricing is Dr. Birkholtz, Dr. Parihar, and Dr. Giotikas. All four doctors offer PRECICE, i'm quite certain they will all eventually offer STRYDE as well. When you factor in the additional expenses outside of surgery for all four doctors, then Dr. Donghoon Lee is competitive with his package pricing, not cheaper, but competitive.
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How long does it take to recover?
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How much is the synoste price?
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Note: The 90-120 day package prices I posted above for PRECICE & LON do not take effect until May of this year. Dr. Donghoon Lee will be transferring to a new more affordable facility, where he will be able to lower his prices and pass along those savings onto his patients.
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my friend,seems you get the message. I also find out that the amazing Precise III is launching soon，someone has notice on other blog that it will be released few months later. it could be that the Precise III is available in May by Dr.Lee AND IT CAN TAKE A LOWER PRICE！
I WOULD DEFINITELY GO WITH THA THAHA
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Does anyone please have an e-mail address for Dr Donghoon Lee?
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Does anyone please have an e-mail address for Dr Donghoon Lee?
Not very obvious is it? Found it here (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=145.msg1719#msg1719), there are two:
assistdong@naver.com
orthopaedee@naver.com
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I could find the new clinic price only in Japanese.
Dr Donghoon told me that in Korea, the STRYDE, new version of precise, will not be released this year, could be in the next year.
anyway, his clinic will be the first in the Asia to have the STRYDE.
If you do a surgery this year at his new clinic, the prices is discounted.
His clinic even has a swimming pool for the better rehabilitation, I heard.
The columns show, 90 days, 120 days packages of Precise 2.3, and 120 days package of LON.
the first row with the lowest price is without accommodation and meals.
the second is with accommodation of group of 4 people and meals.
the third is a single room and meals.
the forth is a VIP room and meals.
the lowered prices are only applied this year.
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Thank you android and Chibi,
I did try the assistdong email without success. Will now try the other one. Dilemma now is do I do it this year, or wait next year when STRYDE comes out?
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Thank you android and Chibi,
I did try the assistdong email without success. Will now try the other one. Dilemma now is do I do it this year, or wait next year when STRYDE comes out?
Not sure when you emailed, but it is the weekend over there. In cases like this I recommend sending emails to both at once and wait for someone to respond.
As for Stryde, it depends on what you can afford since it costs $5k extra (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=4736.msg83892#msg83892).
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Not sure when you emailed, but it is the weekend over there. In cases like this I recommend sending emails to both at once and wait for someone to respond.
As for Stryde, it depends on what you can afford since it costs $5k extra (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=4736.msg83892#msg83892).
I emailed a couple of days ago. I will wait till Tuesday and try emailing again. Although the cost of LL will take a significant amount of my savings I would rather try to find the 5 or 10 thousand extra if Dr Donghoon thinks that I will be able to leave a few weeks sooner because of the weight bearing. Also, from what I’ve read on the forums, being able to be mobile during distraction phase, will hopefully contribute to a more successful healing and I’m hoping with the STRYDE that will be so. It would be really nice to have a diary from a brand new Paley patient.....he’ll maybe I’ll try to find the 50grand extra to do that.....lol ::)
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I emailed a couple of days ago. I will wait till Tuesday and try emailing again. Although the cost of LL will take a significant amount of my savings I would rather try to find the 5 or 10 thousand extra if Dr Donghoon thinks that I will be able to leave a few weeks sooner because of the weight bearing. Also, from what I’ve read on the forums, being able to be mobile during distraction phase, will hopefully contribute to a more successful healing and I’m hoping with the STRYDE that will be so. It would be really nice to have a diary from a brand new Paley patient.....he’ll maybe I’ll try to find the 50grand extra to do that.....lol ::)
Usually, it takes about a week or more to receive replays since the mails are send thru his assistants.
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Ahh....thank you Chibi. Just me being impatient. :)
Anyone else considering either Donghoon or Monegal this year or next?
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So he said he'd get back to him and email him in June when the new facility is built. Does anyone have an update as to when he estimates he'll carry Stryde since esq was banned?
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So he said he'd get back to him and email him in June when the new facility is built. Does anyone have an update as to when he estimates he'll carry Stryde since esq was banned?
talked a guy went new clinic last week and said that not yet sure when the stryde would come out in korea.
like dr paley, most doctors would not disclose the date until very last moment, cause it would affect business wise.
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Here is Dr. Donghoon Lee's assistant e-mail. drdonghoon0011@naver.com
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As I posted in the email above, Dr. Donghoon Lee will be the first surgeon in Asia to offer STRYDE. Unfortunately, no date is available for STRYDE in Asia.
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If anyone on the forum is fluent in Korean, please provide a brief description as to the details of this news story. There is a chance this might be coverage about the new medical center that Dr. Donghoon Lee just opened, but that's just a guess on my part.
This news story also includes interviews with Dr. Rozbruch @ 1:52 & Dr. Paley @ 2:43.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UdJVzRenKY
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Dr. Donghoon Lee has just moved into a brand new state of the art hospital. Dr. Donghoon Lee has chosen the name Donghoon Advanced Limb Lengthening Reconstruction Institute in honor of his teacher Dr. Paley. The facilities look quite impressive on his new updated website.
Website: http://www.drdonghoon.com/landing/en.html
Now for the not so good news about STRYDE. Read the email below.
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The video below is in English with interviews from Dr. Rozbruch & Dr. Paley among others giving praise to Dr. Donghoon Lee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V32yZkDSutM
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I don't know why there are not enough Dr. Donghoon diaries on the forum.
Pros:
1. He has very good experience with doing limb lengthening (cosmetic as well) using Precice
2. He offers an all inclusive package. You don't have to worry about stay, getting around, PT, food, emergency situations, etc. You are in a hospital even while lengthening.
3. South Korea is a developed country, (since many have reservations about going to India, Vietnam, etc)
Cons:
1. Language barrier. People don't speak English well. I doubt even Dr. Donghoon himself speaks much English. I haven't found a video of him speaking English.
2. South Korea might not be a liberal place like US and there is discrimination (not that this would affect an LL patient much).
3. Very few diaries on the forum
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Dr. Donghoon Lee just opened a brand new medical center. The name is Donghoon Advanced Lengthening Reconstruction Institute (DALRI) in honor of his teacher Dr. Paley.
Website: https://drdonghoon.com/?lang=en
YouTube Channel: https://bit.ly/2TiVs8P The YouTube Channel has hundreds of videos. Including post lengthening patient exercises, patient inteviews, fellow surgeon interviews, new facilities, etc...
The good news is that STRYDE might be available sooner than expected. Top executives from NuVasive just took a trip to Seoul.
International patients are provided with the option to stay in the new medical center for the duration of their lengthening (90-120 days). Patients are provided with food, accommodation, medication, physical therapy, transportation to & from airport, etc... A full concierge service.
Dr. Paley speaking about Dr. Donghoon Lee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q5J2nu3BWM
Dr. Rozbruch speaking about Dr. Donghoon Lee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU2r2P5hVr8
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The new medical center is unbelievable! https://drdonghoon.com/?lang=en
This center will be the first to offer Stryde nail in Asia!
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I don't know why there are not enough Dr. Donghoon diaries on the forum.
Pros:
1. He has very good experience with doing limb lengthening (cosmetic as well) using Precice
2. He offers an all inclusive package. You don't have to worry about stay, getting around, PT, food, emergency situations, etc. You are in a hospital even while lengthening.
3. South Korea is a developed country, (since many have reservations about going to India, Vietnam, etc)
Cons:
1. Language barrier. People don't speak English well. I doubt even Dr. Donghoon himself speaks much English. I haven't found a video of him speaking English.
2. South Korea might not be a liberal place like US and there is discrimination (not that this would affect an LL patient much).
3. Very few diaries on the forum
Cons:
4. Unfortunately, The high cost of having CLL with Dr. Lee. I do not know what he currently charges, however, even before he opened his new center his prices were only slightly below those in the West. While I agree that Dr. Lee appears to be an excellent and highly skilled surgeon, the high cost of having surgery with him is prohibitive for probably 90-95% of people looking to have CLL...
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Prices above are only for the remainder of 2018. Prices for 2019 will be available soon, along with updated information on the potential availability of Stryde.
Convert KRW (South Korean Won) to your local currency on the following website: https://www.xe.com
Today 1 USD = ~1,100 KRW
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Cons:
4. Unfortunately, The high cost of having CLL with Dr. Lee. I do not know what he currently charges, however, even before he opened his new center his prices were only slightly below those in the West. While I agree that Dr. Lee appears to be an excellent and highly skilled surgeon, the high cost of having surgery with him is prohibitive for probably 90-95% of people looking to have CLL...
10 out of 15 future LLers who Ive known are planning to go to Dr Lee
I think lot more people are actually interested in expensive but safer options than before
It’s because even if get it done cheaply, with complications and longer downtime, it will end up more expensive than safer options
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q5J2nu3BWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU2r2P5hVr8
Above are the prices for 2019, along with interviews about Dr. Donghoon Lee from Dr. Paley & Dr. Rozbruch. Stryde availability in South Korea is still uncertain, the goal is a date for later this year.
Website: https://drdonghoon.com/?lang=en
YouTube Channel: https://bit.ly/2TiVs8P
Currency Converter: https://www.xe.com
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Why I Cant find a single Diary here about this Dr ?
& Do you guys think his price is a Scam?
Like 70k for Precice 2 ! & who knows how much will he charge for Stryde?
Do you think he is equal to Giotikas ?
Should i just go with Giotikas or wait 2/3 years save money and go with Dr Lee?
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You can find many diaries with him in the old forum.
You can see many of his patients on his youtube channel.
I think he is the 3rd best doctor in the world with internal methods.
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I dont know the old forum, but im wondering why no one in this forum talks about him....they only talk about some Drs from germany and india 😂
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Are you a girl Skylar 94?
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Are you a girl Skylar 94?
no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Q5J2nu3BWM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU2r2P5hVr8
Here is how you can access the old forum:
http://web.archive.org/web/20190226151424/http:// w w w . m a k e m e t a l l e r . o r g /
Note I put a space inbetween the makemetaller part of the above url because on this forum, domains are removed automatically from posts. Make sure when you place the web archive url into your browser that there are no spaces.
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It doesnt open!
Its okay dont even want Old Dre Lee diaries because now he has a new hospital and thats what i want to know about...
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It doesnt open!
Its okay dont even want Old Dre Lee diaries because now he has a new hospital and thats what i want to know about...
lol
yes, a good hospital helps, but it is the doctor's skills and decision making that will make you LL a success
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I think that most of Lee's patients are Koreans, Japanese and Chinese.
They will probably report in their own language in their community.
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http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=4714.0
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=713.0
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=4881.0
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I think that most of Lee's patients are Koreans, Japanese and Chinese.
They will probably report in their own language in their community.
Oh , well maybe , thats why his prices are so overrated because these asians theres alot of them !
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http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=4714.0
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=713.0
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=4881.0
Thank you so much bro 👍🏻,
Will read them and see
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Dr Lee is way more experienced than Giotikas
He is quorified instructor of Precice and Stryde
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Dr Lee is way more experienced than Giotikas
He is quorified instructor of Precice and Stryde
I absolutely agree with you. I think Dr. Lee is perhaps the safest choice because I found that he is very conservative about lengthening amount and rate and very caring about his patients. He has lots of experience in CLL and is a qualified instructor for Precice/Strdye. But his price is more expensive than Dr. Giotikas and slightly more expensive than Dr. Kevin Debiparshad, and Dr. Dr Shahab Mahboubian, although his package seems to provide a little more than others and his price is still cheaper than Dr. Paley and Dr Rozbruch.
So if you stay in US, Dr. Lee may be necessarily not the better choice.
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I absolutely agree with you. I think Dr. Lee is perhaps the safest choice because I found that he is very conservative about lengthening amount and rate and very caring about his patients. He has lots of experience in CLL and is a qualified instructor for Precice/Strdye. But his price is more expensive than Dr. Giotikas and slightly more expensive than Dr. Kevin Debiparshad, and Dr. Dr Shahab Mahboubian, although his package seems to provide a little more than others and his price is still cheaper than Dr. Paley and Dr Rozbruch.
So if you stay in US, Dr. Lee may be necessarily not the better choice.
I am not even from the US !
But I dont want a conservative Dr , why on earth would i pay over 80k , break both my legs just so i can gain 6cm in my femurs! Thats nonsense, ill do this once in a liftetime and i dont want nothing less than 8cm....
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Dr Lee is way more experienced than Giotikas
He is quorified instructor of Precice and Stryde
But i think he still doesnt have the stryde, and most of his precice patients gain 6cm in femurs and 6 in tibias i dont understand why he doesnt have any 8cm femur patients, but with tibias either its Lon or precice he goes to the maximum limit of lengthening like 6,7 cm!
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what u talking about?
he did 9 cm on femur using ISKD : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3L22SIn2sw
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what u talking about?
he did 9 cm on femur using ISKD : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3L22SIn2sw
I didnt see this, i saw only the pics on website
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his maximum lengthening amount is 7.5cm
and he charge foregeiner about 50percent higer price than local korean
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his maximum lengthening amount is 7.5cm
and he charge foregeiner about 50percent higer price than local korean
he sent this price box of everything and he charges like 70k for precice and like 30k for 3months in a single room in the hospital.....(smh!)
So he charges koreans less than that
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his maximum lengthening amount is 7.5cm
and he charge foregeiner about 50percent higer price than local korean
This lengthening amount information is wrong.
In this medical article, Dr Lee's maximum lengthening amount is 8.3 cm.
Read full-text result, The mean distraction length was 6.3 ± 0.9 cm (range, 2.8– 8.3 cm).
https://drdonghoon.com/%ec%9d%b4%eb%8f%99%ed%9b%88-%ec%97%b0%ec%84%b8-%eb%89%b4%ec%8a%a4/%ec%9d%b4%eb%8f%99%ed%9b%88%ec%97%b0%ec%84%b8-%eb%85%b8%ed%8a%b8/?mod=document&uid=5893
Of course, some data may not be included in this statistic.
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これまでPRECICEの延長の限度である 8.5cmまで延長した人がいますか？
; おりません。最大で多く延長した方が 7.5 cmでした。その理由は、筋肉のストレッチの状態が、それくらいになるとさらに延長することが難しい状態になるためであり、片側(ふくらはぎや太もも)のみで長く伸ばすと、身体の比率的にも良くありません。
http://drdonghoon.blog.jp/archives/28776244.html#comments
according this lee donghhoon blog for jp ,he said maximum is 7.5cm ,maybe 8.3cm is special case （pre op heigh is high)
he value propotion and motor function
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Thank you for the additional information.
The 8.3 cm case may be LON.
It is not mentioned in this medical article.
The maximum height before the surgery is written as 175 cm.
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Υοu wouldn't want to end up crippled either, I suppose, so better the doctor be conservative when needed rather than reckless.
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Dr Lee is way more experienced than Giotikas
He is quorified instructor of Precice and Stryde
But DG was invited by Nuvasive to give a lecture at their annual meeting just a few days ago, so he must be a well established professional. It's on their website
http://www.athensbjr.com/blog--news/dr-giotikas-lecture-at-the-annual-surgeons-meeting-2019-organized-by-nuvasive (http://www.athensbjr.com/blog--news/dr-giotikas-lecture-at-the-annual-surgeons-meeting-2019-organized-by-nuvasive)
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Υοu wouldn't want to end up crippled either, I suppose, so better the doctor be conservative when needed rather than reckless.
Well im not asking for 10 cm on femur! I am asking for 8cm which is what the precice is designed to reach up to!
I dont really understand how 1 cm will make me crippled! Doesnt make any sense!!
Over conservative Drs just kind of waste the patients time and money ! If the machine can reach 8 then why not do 8! Im already forced to do the IT band release !
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Well im not asking for 10 cm on femur! I am asking for 8cm which is what the precice is designed to reach up to!
I dont really understand how 1 cm will make me crippled! Doesnt make any sense!!
Over conservative Drs just kind of waste the patients time and money ! If the machine can reach 8 then why not do 8! Im already forced to do the IT band release !
its not about the machine lol
its about your soft tissues which will lose flexibility, and you will possibly not be able to run or jump
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But dont they do IT band release ?
What is this for, isnt it fir people who want more than 5 cm?
Also Me my femur is 42 cm does the length of the femur to start with affects my potential goals, also does lack of muscle/ weak muscles help with lengthening more?
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Dr. Donghoon Lee is expecting to have STRYDE available in 3-4 months. Prices have not yet been determined, more information to come as it becomes available. Reminder, Dr. Donghoon Lee offers an all inclusive 90 day package price to his international patients.
Dr. Donghoon Lee & his DALRI medical center have recently been appointed as an international training center by NuVasive, the manufacturer of the PRECICE & STRYDE nails. Dr. Donghoon Lee was the first surgeon in Asia to offer PRECICE, he has the most experience among any surgeon in Asia with PRECICE, and looks to be the first surgeon in Asia to offer STRYDE.
Website: https://drdonghoon.com/en
YouTube Channel: https://bit.ly/2TiVs8P
Dr. Donghoon Lee's Brand New DALRI Medical Center
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3MtfjfpzQo
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Stealth marketing
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Stealth marketing
What do u mean? Is he a fraud?
Plus i dont really get it with these asians they are every fukin where and dont leave a single procedre without getting it, so thats why his prices are gonna be too muhc becuase he will find tons of asians outside the hospital waiting for whatever the hell!
This is frustrating
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Dr. Donghoon Lee is expecting to have STRYDE available in 3-4 months. Prices have not yet been determined, more information to come as it becomes available. Reminder, Dr. Donghoon Lee offers an all inclusive 90 day package price to his international patients.
Dr. Donghoon Lee & his DALRI medical center have recently been appointed as an international training center by NuVasive, the manufacturer of the PRECICE & STRYDE nails. Dr. Donghoon Lee was the first surgeon in Asia to offer PRECICE, he has the most experience among any surgeon in Asia with PRECICE, and looks to be the first surgeon in Asia to offer STRYDE.
Website: https://drdonghoon.com/en
YouTube Channel: https://bit.ly/2TiVs8P
Dr. Donghoon Lee's Brand New DALRI Medical Center
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3MtfjfpzQo
Donghoons assistant announced that the price difference between Precice and Stryde will depend on the nail price difference, surgery fee and hospital fee will be the same
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Donghoons assistant announced that the price difference between Precice and Stryde will depend on the nail price difference, surgery fee and hospital fee will be the same
But that difference is only 5000$ , and with the pricing he even puts for accomodation which is like30,000$ for a sinle room for 90 days or something like that (like what the hell) he will probably charge 85k at least or even 90 k for stryde.
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I think he is a real bargain compare to the states price
Who else is a certified instructor of Nuvasive products?
Paley of course, and who else?
Donghoon package includes accommodations, food and daily PT, medication etc..
Real rip off is those doctors who show very low price but end up expensive after so much complication and prolonged downtime. With those doctors you can loose whole annual income for a few years or more
that’ll be more than his package price
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Prices are so expensive , why do we have to live in debit for the rest of our life ?
I’m going to Dr Kulesh for 10k usd and lizarov method .just follow the instructions and that it .
If I have 40usd I would go to US Surgon not travel to South Korea . But any way even 40k can’t afford . So Dr Kulesh is the best price and also experienced .
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Better to take X-rays of whole body and ask doctors about your max lengthening amount than discussing here
No one here knows your particular body proportion
Donghoon mentioned that with Stryde people will probability have better chance of lengthening more amount than precice, this means you have better chance of reaching 8cm femurs lengthening
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Why I Cant find a single Diary here about this Dr ?
& Do you guys think his price is a Scam?
Like 70k for Precice 2 ! & who knows how much will he charge for Stryde?
Do you think he is equal to Giotikas ?
Should i just go with Giotikas or wait 2/3 years save money and go with Dr Lee?
He is a very good doctor paley and Rozbruch speak highly of him but he charges foreigners more I think, also he’s currently in a state of the art hospital but not worth it to go to him unless you’re local you’ll get a better price
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Prices are so expensive , why do we have to live in debit for the rest of our life ?
I’m going to Dr Kulesh for 10k usd and lizarov method .just follow the instructions and that it .
If I have 40usd I would go to US Surgon not travel to South Korea . But any way even 40k can’t afford . So Dr Kulesh is the best price and also experienced .
You seem new so you wouldn’t understand. With 75k with stryde in United States or 50k in Greece you can weight bear immediately. Distraction completed in 2-3 months. That 6-8 months you save translates to money. People with jobs like truck driving or office jobs can return to work way faster than externals. Not to mention they are much more Uncomfortable and more painful than internal and you have to wear them for 8-9 months up to a year usually and can’t walk unassisted until near consolidation. I own my business but if I wanted to do stryde femurs legs say I could work 2 months after as a truck driver and make 6-7k a month.
Sure you save with externals, but takes forever to heal, more painful, and loss of wages from not working. Stryde has much this surgery a fraction of how hard it is with externals.
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I think he is a real bargain compare to the states price
Who else is a certified instructor of Nuvasive products?
Paley of course, and who else?
Donghoon package includes accommodations, food and daily PT, medication etc..
Real rip off is those doctors who show very low price but end up expensive after so much complication and prolonged downtime. With those doctors you can loose whole annual income for a few years or more
that’ll be more than his package price
Honestly you are so right!
But wait i thought that my alternatives which is Dr D and Dr M (both in states) are verified from Nuvasive too?!
But the thing is when donghoon lee receptionist answers my email she keeps saying 6cm for femurs! Like what the hell! Why on earth would i travel to korea for 6cm !! So i felt like he is a too scared and takes over precaution , like what if he tells me to stop at 6.5 or something!
& ppl on this forum say that dr M which i dont even like , lengthens to the max...
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Nooo the price doesnt include Accomodation,
The surgery Onlyyy for precice 2 is 67,000$
Plus ERC rental 5,000$
Plus that they state that Accomodation in hospital for 90 days in a single room , because how could one stay in a 4 room bedroom for 3 months with a stranger specially if u r accompanied with a parent, so accomo for 90 days single room is 30,000$ extra! Like what the hell if i stay in a 7 star hotel i wouldnt pay that !
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He is a very good doctor paley and Rozbruch speak highly of him but he charges foreigners more I think, also he’s currently in a state of the art hospital but not worth it to go to him unless you’re local you’ll get a better price
So if go speaking korean will he charge me less?
& does the price list he state on his website for foreigners ( which include any country in any continent or usa only)
And if we go on his korean website we will find a different pricing?
Imma go learn some korean or sum ....
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Nooo the price doesnt include Accomodation,
The surgery Onlyyy for precice 2 is 67,000$
Plus ERC rental 5,000$
Plus that they state that Accomodation in hospital for 90 days in a single room , because how could one stay in a 4 room bedroom for 3 months with a stranger specially if u r accompanied with a parent, so accomo for 90 days single room is 30,000$ extra! Like what the hell if i stay in a 7 star hotel i wouldnt pay that !
He’s right behind paley and rozbruch, they speak very highly of him and he’s in a state of the art hospital. He’s maybe between 3rd to fifth best doctor in world for limb lengthening.
BUT that doesn’t justify his prices. That’s same price as United States if not more. Mahboubian is 65k for precice 2
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So if go speaking korean will he charge me less?
& does the price list he state on his website for foreigners ( which include any country in any continent or usa only)
And if we go on his korean website we will find a different pricing?
Imma go learn some korean or sum ....
No doesn’t work like that lol you have to live there. Part of it isn’t from him the government charges people coming in a a fee I think and I’ve spoken to a few people who said foreigners are charged more
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Yes I’m new ,I agree with you nailing is better then lizarov . I recall aguy name Hamza . He had issues with Dr rozbrush . Nailing complications for patients like who makes not that Much will screw up . At least it should cover complications. Because of that I prefer the cheap way with experienced doctor . Have u heard about Doctor name Hany Abdul Baqey ? Egyptian .
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Yes I’m new ,I agree with you nailing is better then lizarov . I recall aguy name Hamza . He had issues with Dr rozbrush . Nailing complications for patients like who makes not that Much will screw up . At least it should cover complications. Because of that I prefer the cheap way with experienced doctor . Have u heard about Doctor name Hany Abdul Baqey ? Egyptian .
Eh I don’t think that post is real. It might be but I doubt it, rozbruch is one of the best, hospital for special surgery (HSS) is where all the nfl football players etc top sports legends go for joint and bone etc surgeries. They have state of the art equipment. You can’t just get a job there. You have to be highly qualified. Rozbruch and paley is a few in a million.
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Does anyone knows Dong lee's up to date package price list for all his options?
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Donghoon speaks English well
Donghoons channel in English
https://youtu.be/pVSQK_4839c
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Where i can see his prices
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I considered him but after emailing his office i have to think twice. They are not very responsive, emailed them for weeks, no reply. I wonder what if i got surgery done with them and something goes wrong. I lost my trust in them. I rather do it in USA
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Guys i sent email to donghoon lee's office but no reply on the price list of stryde , did anyone get it??
Also who is considering going to him or who already went?
Ive been off the forum for a while but did anything arise regarding Paley/ Rozbruch/ Mahoubian that puts Donghoon Lee superior to them ?!
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Guys i sent email to donghoon lee's office but no reply on the price list of stryde , did anyone get it??
Also who is considering going to him or who already went?
Ive been off the forum for a while but did anything arise regarding Paley/ Rozbruch/ Mahoubian that puts Donghoon Lee superior to them ?!
Nothing. He just got stryde this month that's all
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Hey, i really considering going to do it with dr. Lee in the near future . Maybe half year from now until i save some cash. I found doing femur internal lengthening with him is more reasonable ( for me at least) compare paley/ other Us surgeons. Remmember that usually US doctors dont include accommodating+food+phydiopherapy in their price so dr. Lee prices already has full packets for the whole stay( almost).i liked that he also maintain hydrotherapy in his new complex.i'm already in the longest side of femurs and like to get 8 cm length(hopefully).
Hes just got the stryde nail so i feel hes too busy with the devices alongsides his assistants. Last time they replied to me was also like a month ago.
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i m thinking going to donghoon but there is no way to get information, i already wrote 2 times on their web page and no reply. Could you contact them ?
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Did you contact him through email? Or are there any other ways to contact him?
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They are having lockdown in Korea
that why no reply
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What do you mean by lock down? As far as I know Korea is functioning normally.
I'm going to Korea next week.
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FreyaStone how did you contacted ?? i wrote to their web, mails and no reply at all. I was asking information and prices but got noooooothing
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I wrote to two different email directions and to his IG but nothing. Will call him once I have a Korean phone number.
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i didnt understand, you never contacted Dr Lee and you had no reply to email nor IG but you are travelling to korea for the surgery ? so you have a date for surgery or what ?
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No, I'm travelling to Korea for other reasons.
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Ok understood. So you still have not contacted or any information of Dr Lee regarding surgery process and costs ?
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Has anybody received a reply from Dr Lee in the past days? I'm desperate to make this surgery but no email reply so far...
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NOPE
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Hi guys, I'm new here from Malaysia and I've been recently looking into lengthening to fix my 3cm femur discrepancy with the PRECICE method.
I emailed Dr. Lee twice through different channels. There is an English team and a Korean team email so make sure you sent it to the right one. I sent my first email through their website and waited for a month with no result and emailed again to the english email I saw on Youtube. In the end after a week I did not get a reply. My Korean friend called the hospital up to see if they got my email and they finally replied me today (roughly a week after the phone call). They said to my friend that all emails are being replied by oldest to newest but they were willing to look into my email earlier.
I inquired about the PRECICE method and LON method to know the price difference and here is the new price breakdown as of today 15 Sept 2021.
Femur Lengthening PRECICE : 56,700,000KRW
Tibia Lengthening PRECICE : 60,900,000KRW
Tibia Lengthening LON ( include external fixator removal op): 32,550,000KRW
These prices include:
- Surgeon and Anesthesiologist fees
- Surgery assistant fees
- Implant costs
- All hospital charges that related to the surgery
- Analgesics (pain meds) and other meds related to the surgery
- Hospitalisation fees
- 7 nights in 4 pax shared room
- Meals during hospitalisation
- 70 times of physical therapy
Price does not include:
- Initial consultation and pre-op assessment fees
-ERC rental fee (PRECICE only)
- Personal caretaker
- Accomodation and transport
- Food and other supplies in Korea
- Additional physical/hydro therapy
- Additional outpatient visit/x-ray fees after discharged
- Ankle screw removal for tibia lengthening
They quoted me an additional pricing WITHOUT the 70 times physical therapy
PRECICE: 53,900,000KRW
LON: 25,550,000KRW
I think the price has gone down but it is still too expensive for me to afford as I come from a 3rd world country, this amount would take me 4 times more time and effort to achieve. I won't be able to get this surgery done any time soon. I am looking at more affordable options in Turkey but I am still unconvinced. If anyone has any recommendations, please send me the URL.
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Which is his email? I sent several emails to info@drdonghoon.com but no answer
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I have also written three times to the email but it is the only one of the doctors who has not answered. What is it due to?
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Anybody has an update on the accommodation price for his new place ?? Or does he has a guesthouse ?? I sent an email to them but no reply too. LOL Their whatspp shows that they were last active last month
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Anybody has an update on the accommodation price for his new place ?? Or does he has a guesthouse ?? I sent an email to them but no reply too. LOL Their whatspp shows that they were last active last month
I believe one of his videos mentioned about where to stay for his LL, not sure which video talked about it. I believe that video posted long ago, like 2 years.
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anyone been in contact with donghoon's staff lately? it seems they stopped replying, i am really considering him and he is my first choice but the last response i got from them was in march of this year.
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anyone been in contact with donghoon's staff lately? it seems they stopped replying, i am really considering him and he is my first choice but the last response i got from them was in march of this year.
Yeah me too have difficulty in contacting him. They replied me last time in April 2021. While his Korean youtube channel is quite active. I guess maybe they don't prioritize international patient since South Korea is still imposing 14 days quarantine for international travellers.
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Hi everyone, I am a new member and planned to go with dr.Lee too .I am from Europe but the fact he does not reply is so concerning !
If only he was responsive I would have my choiche on the surgeon but come on..I emailed him too and nothing
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Has anyone managed to get a reply from him yet? He seems inactive on replying emails these days...
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I think his priority right now is not international patient since the Covid-19 pandemic makes it hard for international patients to get Visa approval to enter Korea; so his team just focusing on Korean patients
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He is my first choiche but this thing annoys me AF !!!!!!
Might start looking for another surgeon tbh because we can't be like "please Dr answear" for a surgeon who will get paid to do this procedure ,he is not doing it for free/cheap whatsoever .
So whatever the case might be ,this is so unacceptable because no matter what , a short copy and paste reply to all international patients takes NOTHING to be sent .period.
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He is my first choiche but this thing annoys me AF !!!!!!
Might start looking for another surgeon tbh because we can't be like "please Dr answear" for a surgeon who will get paid to do this procedure ,he is not doing it for free/cheap whatsoever .
So whatever the case might be ,this is so unacceptable because no matter what , a short copy and paste reply to all international patients takes NOTHING to be sent .period.
I believe they won’t reply us before February or before South Korea relax it’s quarantine measure
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I believe they won’t reply us before February or before South Korea relax it’s quarantine measure
Maybe , but I don't see how a quarantine prevents from answering emails .
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Maybe , but I don't see how a quarantine prevents from answering emails .
I think they’re trying to be more effective. Answering emails from international patients which turns out none comes to South Korea or giving discount to local patients. At their email in April 2021 they even offered me sponsor for full amount of the cost for 14 days quarantine.
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I think they’re trying to be more effective. Answering emails from international patients which turns out none comes to South Korea or giving discount to local patients. At their email in April 2021 they even offered me sponsor for full amount of the cost for 14 days quarantine.
14 days of quarantine is not unduoable.
On top of that not all patients want to schedule the surgery in 2 weeks .
Some go to consultation and make the surgery on first date available but others like my case , since I am not even Asian or in the area around what so ever ,need more time therefore having infos and then planning according to infos is important . I can't go to Korea ,call a taxi and invade the DARLI center to have a consultation with him .
Maybe I didn't catch your point but I am still of the opinion that who wants to go with him , goes with him regardless of having to wait few more months .
Who doesn't want to wait , it's not gonna for sure wait for a reply and will regardless pick someone else .
So the point is that I think they should give more attention to patient seeking to travel to world to reach them , then to local patients who would go there no matter what .
Everything with Lee looks fine to me , but this aspects bothers me way tooooo much to not be skeptical
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https://www.allkpop.com/article/2018/06/musical-actor-trainee-suddenly-dies-after-limb-lengthening-surgery
Anyone knows the surgeon’s name?
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https://www.allkpop.com/article/2018/06/musical-actor-trainee-suddenly-dies-after-limb-lengthening-surgery
Anyone knows the surgeon’s name?
I don't and I doubt its Dr.Lee .
In 2016 he performed at Severance and I highly doubt something like this could have happened at that hospital under his care without being of public domain by now .
I am not even sure that is a real thing because it's such a vague article with no names , doctors , hospital names etc.
I can write too :Young guy died at 19 during nose job In New York .
But that really tells nothing.
No method ,no doctor , no hospital..not even proof that case did ever exist ,probably just a clickbait .
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Any update on him in 2021?
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He is the only LL doc i sort of have high hopes in as he seem pretty realistic in the outcomes he expects and prioritise safety as the number 1 factor.