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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 05:41:23 PM

Title: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 05:41:23 PM
mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.Sarin)
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Post by: TomD on September 27, 2013, 06:01:57 PM
Hey dude. I dont know what you are saying. Is that a link?  ???
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Post by: KiloKAHN on September 27, 2013, 06:04:03 PM
Hi mmn_native. I saw what the clinic in iran did to you. Hopefully Dr. Sarin will be able to help you.
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Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 06:22:27 PM

I have performed LL with Dr. Hamid Zarabi and Dr. Raouf Effatparvar in Iran.  Maybe it is very odd and strange for you but after performing the surgery (after one month) I understood that Raouf Effatparvar was not a doctor and he has nothing in common with medicine.  He is a quack not even an intern.


In their team there are 3 people who claim that are ilizarov specialist.  2 of them have nothing in common with medicine but they claim that they are ilizarov specialist.  The 3rd one is a family doctor.  I am really sorry that kurgan ilizarov center holds training courses several times a year and everybody can participate in them and get a certificate. I have reported them several times but  they do not care and they support theses quakes. It seems they just think about business,holding ilizrov training courses and selling their frames.


  Since there is no ilizarov expert in Iran.  These people go inside the operation room with orthopedic surgeons and perform ilizarov operations.  They are causing countless problems for the patients Raouf Effatparvar has done this tragedy to my legs.  He is the Ilizarov center official agency in Iran.  Dr. Shevtsov and Dr. Shved came to appreciate and reward him in 2009 October as the best Asian ilizarov expert.  He was trained in Kurgan and his is the one and the only official agency of ilizarov scientific center in Iran.  This is what he claims and says to the patients.  I emphasize these are not my words.  These are his claims.  I have seen the photos of Dr. Shevtsov and Dr. Shved standing in front of his office (falat sabz) . The photos are hanged on the wall of his office.  He shows the photos to the patients and claims that he is the official agency of kurgan ilizarov center since 1997.  He has also hanged a certification and an ilizarov frame on the wall that his name is carved on it.  These are made in Kurgan ilizarov center.  According to the mentioned evidence and the trust that I had toward the reputation of ilizarov center I gave them my entirely healthy legs that had no problem for the sake of lengthening (cosmetic purpose). I wore ilizarov frames for about 7 months.  Now I am cripple ( I cannot walk),my legs are full of sores.  My height has just changed 1cm and my legs are bent.  My legs did not have any problem before the surgery.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 06:25:39 PM
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Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 06:27:01 PM
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Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 06:29:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1pOiW3gbg4
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 06:31:09 PM
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Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 06:32:34 PM
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Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 06:33:36 PM
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Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 06:34:18 PM
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Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 08:27:51 PM
After the surgery for half an hour I had a terrible pain but after that  00000000000 pain. The  pain management was really professional. The device injects pain killer little by little to your backbone through a nail. By means of this device and the doctor whom unfortunately  I do not remember his name I felt 0000000000000000000000 pain.The doctor was really gentleman and handsome.

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Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 08:32:57 PM
I also met a doctor his name is Ankur Guma I asked him to write his name for me and I will keep this piece of paper as memento for goods.

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Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 08:35:21 PM
Dr.Ankur Guma was really caring and handsome.
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Post by: mmn_native on September 27, 2013, 08:40:41 PM
So far everything was perfect.I have just started lengthening. I hope every thing goes well.
Dr.Sarin has put a special device for me. It seems really strong.

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Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: KiloKAHN on September 30, 2013, 01:45:30 AM
Hi mmn_native,

What has Dr. Sarin said about your legs? Does he think you can make a good recovery?
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on September 30, 2013, 07:02:13 AM
He has promised me to correct and lengthen my tibias.
I believe in him and trust him.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: KiloKAHN on October 23, 2013, 11:54:37 PM
He has promised me to correct and lengthen my tibias.
I believe in him and trust him.

Hi mmn, just checking in to see how you're doing. How is the correction treating you?
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on October 26, 2013, 03:40:45 PM
I am allright. Everything was perfect so for :D ;). I am not going to update my diary every day. I want to surprise all of the guys who are following my diary. Fasten your seat belts  :P
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Sweden on October 26, 2013, 04:51:57 PM
Can you get me 50 Gillete Fusion Power razor blades?

Harry promised me he should ship them to me but he lied.

They're cheap in India. I'll transfer money through Paypal.

Please!
Thank you.
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Post by: Doflamingo on November 26, 2013, 09:51:05 PM
Damn... I'm so sorry what happened to you and for your loss.
I hope you a quick and fine recovery.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on November 28, 2013, 08:10:15 AM
I was afraid to tell exactly what is happening and the truth since Dr.Darin and his staffs are following this forum.Now I am at home and I can  further my diary without telling just positive things.
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Post by: Carter on November 28, 2013, 11:07:50 AM
Congrats on returning home and look forward to your updates.
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Post by: BilateralDamage on November 28, 2013, 11:14:17 AM
Did something bad happen??  ???
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Post by: mmn_native on November 28, 2013, 11:33:53 AM
I went to Dr.Amar Sarin for correction and lengthening in India. The consultation took less than 10 min. 8 min was about money and 2 min was about my legs. He has promised to correct my tibias and lengthen 10 cm with LON. I trusted him and gave him the money. In operation room he told me that LON is not possible and we perform LATN. In that Time I had no choice I was in operation room and I could not say no. After breaking my bones he told me even LATN is not possible we are using plates instead of nails and I can just lengthen 3 4 cm. If he told me one of these things I would never had performed the operation in India.Finally  He has just corrected my legs and there is no lengthening. When I started to complain he did not answer my calls and he rejected me all the time. He is a knowledgeable surgeon but He is just after money. He does not care about patient s health and does not spend time for patients.
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Post by: mmn_native on November 28, 2013, 11:38:58 AM
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Post by: mmn_native on November 28, 2013, 11:40:54 AM
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Post by: mmn_native on November 28, 2013, 11:44:03 AM
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Post by: mmn_native on November 28, 2013, 11:56:56 AM
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Post by: Orlando on November 28, 2013, 12:11:31 PM
I want to hear what other Dr Sarin patients say about this, since you guys were all at the guesthouse.   

If this is true, Dr Sarin should be formally complained to the authorities.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on November 28, 2013, 12:25:01 PM
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Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on November 28, 2013, 12:43:53 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/LUX1GnH.jpg)
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Post by: mmn_native on November 28, 2013, 12:52:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pkRtj2ZXtM
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: BilateralDamage on November 28, 2013, 03:00:09 PM
Excuse my language but I have to curse right now.

What in the fking hell was that??!. Dr. Sarin should be put in prison, that is fking horribe and he's a terrible person for treating you like that, I'm so sorry you went through that.  This will forever be the proof that NOBODY should go to Dr. Sarin, and we have it in writing now.

Jesus.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on November 28, 2013, 04:13:01 PM
I want to be fair and not to tell just  negative things:1-he is a knowledgeable and skiLL Forumul surgeon and he he has corrected my legs.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Doflamingo on November 28, 2013, 04:44:17 PM
Could you please post pictures of your legs? (Before and after correction)

Thank you; I was planning to go to Sarin for LL but now I'll just live with what I have, no LL for me.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: BilateralDamage on November 28, 2013, 04:47:00 PM
I don't care how technically skilled he is as a surgeon.  If that's how he treats his patients then he should have his license revoked.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: alps on November 28, 2013, 05:44:28 PM
The f*ck!

Now there is one commonality between what old forum  and this forum say: "Don't go to Sarin".
I think we should extend it as : "Don't go to India".

We should certainly have a list of "bad doctors" just like many websites keep a list of "Scam products".

I'm sorry for what you went through mmn_native.

How on Earth did you manage to finish it there? I hope you're doing fine man. Please show us what your legs look like, will you?
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on November 28, 2013, 07:53:52 PM
I do believe that makemetaller is a really great site.It is full of information. old forum  and sysop has spent so much time and energy to handle and manage website.So many people from all over the world owe to makemetaller since it is a very good reference but it is not
Bible there is a policy behind it. The policy is money.
When old forum  was the administrator of the site he he suddenly removed Dr.Milord Mitkovic (from Serbia) from the recommended list and he wrote that he is retired but he is  still performing lengthening(tibia and femur) :D

http://www.mitkovic.net/surgical_opus/index.html

When you  surf makemetaller think twice about everything because it is not 100% trustable.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on November 28, 2013, 08:25:15 PM
Even if you perform LL in heaven and your Dr is an angel you will face problems but you know you can ignore some problems but you can not ignore severe problems.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Doflamingo on November 28, 2013, 11:07:08 PM
I'l NEVER go to India, thanks to your legit warnings. Now I'll just save money for Guichet or Betz.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Carter on November 29, 2013, 02:33:56 PM
mmn_native, Wish You Speedy Recovery.   As for Sarin, how is he allow to practice as a Doctor?  Simply ridiculous!
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Keep Growing on November 29, 2013, 09:57:05 PM
A f...in' greedy butcher...this is Sarin!!! I hate people with no morals!
Hope you'll be fit soon  ;)

PS: Are you positive that Dr. Mitkovic is still doing LL ?  (http/www edit). Search "Dr. Mitkovic gone from this site" for old forum  thread reference.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on November 30, 2013, 02:59:16 AM
Last I heard, Dr. Mitkovic still does a few LL surgeries a year but is not actively recruiting patients anymore.  That's why he requested to be removed from old forum .  He didn't want to be dealing with a hundred emails a day from old forum  posters.  If you email him he might respond, but probably he will ignore you.  He's old, he's busy with other things, and CLL was never a priority for him in his career.

I don't want to be seen as a Sarin apologist since I've never met him and haven't really paid close attention to his practice, but I will tell you that ugly scabs and bloodstained sheets are not something that shock me as a former LL patient.  It's nothing I haven't seen before in Beijing.  LL is a brutal surgery, especially when corrections are being done simultaneously.

Go to Paley and get one of his million dollar 5cm surgeries if you don't want to see something like that.  This is what goes on at cheap clinics that use externals.  Welcome to the ugly reality of LL.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: BilateralDamage on November 30, 2013, 05:46:40 AM
I don't mind the ugly looking cuts and blood-stained sheets so much as I care about Sarin's treatment of his own patients.  Did you read those texts?  Absolutely disgusting.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on November 30, 2013, 05:55:01 AM
I don't mind the ugly looking cuts and blood-stained sheets so much as I care about Sarin's treatment of his own patients.  Did you read those texts?  Absolutely disgusting.

Agreed 100%.  No doctor, especially one who's lured foreigners to his clinic, should be treating people like that.  Even if he thought it was silly whining about a scab and nail polish, he should've treated the patient with respect and compassion.  The Chinese knew people could go shen jing bing (a little crazy) when staying in a foreign country's hospital for months, crippled in bed.  I pulled a few stunts that I'm sure annoyed them, but they were always tolerant and patient.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: coolheman on November 30, 2013, 10:10:14 AM
mmm_native I am currently in the guest house of dr sarin and I was there when you created a ruckus after having marijuana and alcohol. it is easy to misguide and fake things up. u have used nice technology to put your experience. u seem to be very intelligent but be truthful also.  once my diary will start I will post all the pictures and everything what u did.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on November 30, 2013, 11:37:05 AM
calm down why are you so angry ?ok you are right. Do not annoy yourself. according to your claims I drunk alcohol and smoke marijuana  ;D my question is who was providing alcohol and marijuana for me in a foreign country with broken bones??????????????????????????????????all of the pictures are made in photoshop and they are all fake just calm down.
Anyway you are free to do whatever you want , write and post everything you wish.
There is no benefit for me If the guest house is full or empty I wont win or lose anything.All candidates are free to choose their Dr.
Actually I am tired of speaking about ll because I have done it twice. I wont check any ll forum anymore.
P.S. I wish that all ll patients perform the tratment without any complication and they all fulfill their dreams.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: jamesizu on November 30, 2013, 12:28:20 PM
Oh SNAP. Things just got interesting! (Grabs popcorn and turns volume up). This is a major plot twist...

Looks like Dr. Sarin is back on my list for potential doctors.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Doflamingo on November 30, 2013, 12:44:39 PM
I 'll still go Sringrari though.
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Post by: An_Apple_A_Day on November 30, 2013, 11:58:19 PM
You can't beat an LL forum for a good old punch up!
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on December 01, 2013, 10:25:40 AM
coolheman Is marijuana incluuded in Dr.Sarin package :D ;D ? I am pretty sure that you are one of Dr.Saris s staff and you are worried to lose your business. Anyway you have enough time to provide fake things to convince people.Do not wast the time.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Sweden on December 01, 2013, 11:42:35 AM
There were patients smoking pot even when I was there and when Dr Sarin found out he went totally mad!

Even I used it bc I slept much better those nights.

It has actually great health benefits, just look it up.
I use hemp oil now and then for my skin.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: BilateralDamage on December 01, 2013, 04:56:49 PM
Sweden went Jamaican?  ;D
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Medium Drink Of Water on December 01, 2013, 05:00:03 PM
LOL I've never done drugs in my life, but I would've done anything during LL just to relieve the pain and pass the hours of boredom.  Totally understandable.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: coolheman on December 03, 2013, 08:01:41 AM
mmm_native I think you very well know about what you did. your legs are straight and it is all because of dr sarin not because of your bad behavior. you should be thankful to him that he did not put you in a asylum or mental hospital. the way you were behaving and breaking the glasses everybody here knows about it. my opinion is you should post both the good and bad things. you never posted the pictures of your straight legs but you very well posted the complications.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Muse on December 03, 2013, 09:19:07 AM
Another patient of Dr Sarin provided the following information with the agreement of being anonymous, therefore I am quoting the following message on this person's behalf.

"I was there and spoke with this patient while this was happening and he said all of the stuff he posted to me and many others in the guest house. I can also verify the things he said in the video were true. A member of staff was providing marijuana to patients, one of the female patients was touched by the manager just below Dr. Sarin (all he did was touch her leg and tell her she was pretty), that manager went absolutely ape   towards another patient who was unhappy his PT got cut off because his wire transfer for rent went through later than expected and the manager did not speak to him personally about it first.

The patient (he was walking unassisted with no ballerina but still staying another month to recover) pointed at and got close to the manger’s face but did not touch him and the manager got up and pushed him back and was screaming so loud everyone in the guest house came out of their rooms to watch. Dr Sarin came in later and apologized to the patient for the manager’s behavior and stuff settled down.

The visa stuff is a big mess and felt like a big scam to me. I read online that a medical visa should be extendable for free with a doctor’s note but people still had to pay $200 to Dr. Sarin’s staff for it. The people who went to the office and paid $200 for a medical visa extension had to fill out the paperwork with a fake address since Dr. Sarin’s guest house is not a legit medical facility to keep foreign patients and did not have the proper forms filled out for foreigners to stay there who had valid visas.

For tourist visa’s it said online that within 90 days of it expiring you had to pay a $30 fee and apply for an exit visa to leave. I read online there are a lot of scams involving visas with foreigners and there is no great easy established way to get your visa taken care of on your own. Dr. Sarin required these patients to pay $400 (other patients before paid $200) for an exit visa and the staff would go to the office and get it for you and I do not think it should cost that much.

It does sometimes take an excessive amount of nagging for things to get done and Dr. Sarin’s bedside manner as well as some of his staff is not good. Jiju does not always follow through when he tells you he will come by to take care of things like changing the rods on your frames, removing/redressing bandages, and cleaning out infections - he will be late by days sometimes.

Many patients told me if you question Dr. Sarin's methods as far as treatment he does not like that at all and if you continue to argue he will state you have something mentally wrong with you. Many patients said he will ask you “who is the patient and who is the doctor” and tell you that you are not a doctor so you do not know anything and you need to completely trust him. He told several patients they needed to go see a psychologist because everything is fine with them and they should not be worrying.

I would not personally recommend a family member to go to Dr. Sarin for LL. I would only recommend others to go with Dr. Sarin if there is no way they can afford a more expensive doctor. The level of medical care is sometimes questionable and the way patients are treated is sometimes not good."
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Machine on December 03, 2013, 09:59:49 AM
Another patient of Dr Sarin provided the following information with the agreement of being anonymous, therefore I am quoting the following message on this person's behalf.

"I was there and spoke with this patient while this was happening and he said all of the stuff he posted to me and many others in the guest house. I can also verify the things he said in the video were true. A member of staff was providing marijuana to patients, one of the female patients was touched by the manager just below Dr. Sarin (all he did was touch her leg and tell her she was pretty), that manager went absolutely ape   towards another patient who was unhappy his PT got cut off because his wire transfer for rent went through later than expected and the manager did not speak to him personally about it first.

The patient (he was walking unassisted with no ballerina but still staying another month to recover) pointed at and got close to the manger’s face but did not touch him and the manager got up and pushed him back and was screaming so loud everyone in the guest house came out of their rooms to watch. Dr Sarin came in later and apologized to the patient for the manager’s behavior and stuff settled down.

The visa stuff is a big mess and felt like a big scam to me. I read online that a medical visa should be extendable for free with a doctor’s note but people still had to pay $200 to Dr. Sarin’s staff for it. The people who went to the office and paid $200 for a medical visa extension had to fill out the paperwork with a fake address since Dr. Sarin’s guest house is not a legit medical facility to keep foreign patients and did not have the proper forms filled out for foreigners to stay there who had valid visas.

For tourist visa’s it said online that within 90 days of it expiring you had to pay a $30 fee and apply for an exit visa to leave. I read online there are a lot of scams involving visas with foreigners and there is no great easy established way to get your visa taken care of on your own. Dr. Sarin required these patients to pay $400 (other patients before paid $200) for an exit visa and the staff would go to the office and get it for you and I do not think it should cost that much.

It does sometimes take an excessive amount of nagging for things to get done and Dr. Sarin’s bedside manner as well as some of his staff is not good. Jiju does not always follow through when he tells you he will come by to take care of things like changing the rods on your frames, removing/redressing bandages, and cleaning out infections - he will be late by days sometimes.

Many patients told me if you question Dr. Sarin's methods as far as treatment he does not like that at all and if you continue to argue he will state you have something mentally wrong with you. Many patients said he will ask you “who is the patient and who is the doctor” and tell you that you are not a doctor so you do not know anything and you need to completely trust him. He told several patients they needed to go see a psychologist because everything is fine with them and they should not be worrying.

I would not personally recommend a family member to go to Dr. Sarin for LL. I would only recommend others to go with Dr. Sarin if there is no way they can afford a more expensive doctor. The level of medical care is sometimes questionable and the way patients are treated is sometimes not good."
Hey dameon what do u feel about dr sringari .do u recommend dr sringari.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: handy on December 03, 2013, 03:13:39 PM
Hey dameon what do u feel about dr sringari .do u recommend dr sringari.

Dameon

Here is his second post that I was talking about that goes right into Dr. Sringari. 
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on December 03, 2013, 03:40:02 PM
Dr.Sarin,Dr.Sringari and the doctors of the same class are not good choices for LL.
This operation should be performed in a center that has at least one decade of experience.
I am not a fan of Sysop and I have written my idea about him but I respect him.
Dr.Sarin calls sysop a bastard. When he was in the recommended list sysop was not a bastard.
A change in a list changes a person from a nice guy to a bastard.impressing  ;)
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: KiloKAHN on December 03, 2013, 04:25:49 PM
It's the same thing as Sysop downplaying all of Dr. Sarin's faults until Dr. Sarin didn't want to make a financial agreement with Sysop/Apotheosis, then suddenly he had a personal vendetta against him and finally called Sarin out.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: coolheman on December 04, 2013, 09:04:42 AM
haha its nice you always change the topic mmm_native. I was just asking you to be truthful but you always so intelligently change everything. impressive.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on March 19, 2014, 10:10:37 AM
I have paid 17500$ for this.
no lengthening and the correction is awful
Dr.Sarin has fixed some deformities but he has made new ones and I have non-union.
(http://i.imgur.com/GVsRJ3D.jpg)

Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Polycrates. on March 19, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
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Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Moubgf on March 19, 2014, 03:50:09 PM
Haha holy shiet, you mad brah?.  Guess you should not have listened to the fraud Sweden huh. to late and gl bro.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: BullSurfer on March 19, 2014, 04:23:54 PM
Are the xray meant to be real? Even a novice orthopedic surgeon wouldn't mess up that bad.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Smallguy on March 19, 2014, 04:56:34 PM
Nice. But didn't  you admit to photoshopping your photo earlier? I was reading through your diary.

My x-Ray is pretty bad as well. I will try to obtain a copy from the hospital and post it later.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on March 19, 2014, 05:02:33 PM
what do you mean by photoshopping :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[?It was a wisecrack and I was kidding.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: OverrideYouGenetics on March 19, 2014, 06:03:44 PM
Haha holy shiet, you mad brah?.  Guess you should not have listened to the fraud Sweden huh. to late and gl bro.
Knock it off.
Yes, he did go against everyones advices but theres no need to kick someone who is already down.

SLim_tim, this looks bad. I havent followed your diary so I dont know where u are from, but hopefully you can get some doctor in your home country to fix this without any extra cost.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: OverrideYouGenetics on March 19, 2014, 06:07:42 PM
hey wait a sec...
on the first page you wrote that Sarin has installed a fixtator on your legs and there are many pictures of ilizarov frame.

But on the x-ray above, it looks like monorail?

how is that possible?
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: KiloKAHN on March 19, 2014, 06:10:15 PM
He got his legs plated and the frames removed.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: OverrideYouGenetics on March 19, 2014, 06:11:00 PM
He got his legs plated and the frames removed.

alright, cheers.
it looks bad, really.

*crosses fingers*
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Machine on March 19, 2014, 06:47:40 PM
dude i really feel sorry for you but you have to be strong now .
i can understand what you are going through ... i wish i could help ..!!
stay positive and focused .
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Franz on March 19, 2014, 06:53:15 PM
alright, cheers.
it looks bad, really.

*crosses fingers*
I would normally not give detailed medical advice on an open forum, BUT you need to have those legs attended to. You have bilateral nonunions in evolution, possibly with dead bone ends and plates that will fail at some point.
You need proper fixation, bone debridement and grafting asap. We do this sort of thing regularly.
Send me an email at franz.birkholtz@walkamile.co.za then we can discuss privately.
Not sure where you are from, but hopefully I could recommend someone you could go and see?
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Orlando on March 20, 2014, 09:03:51 AM
mmn_native wouldn't have gone to Dr Sarin if not for the corrupted group of people who promote this Doctor.   

Sweden who shill shamelessly for the Doctor, complaining in the guesthouse while writing good things on his diary.
Crazy6 and Harry who keep trying to convince people that India was a great option for LL, to the extent of creating fake diary.
Sysop who recommend and financially invested in the Doctor, only to turn when they had a financial fallout, while pretending to be impartial.
 
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mmn_native, contact Dr Franz or any reputable Doctors and get Professional Medical Advice.    Forget any advice you receive by amateurs aka patients.   They are not qualified to advise on such complications you are facing.   
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: BullSurfer on March 20, 2014, 09:13:09 AM
I always knew there was some agenda with that Sweden guy. I read the entire Craige49 post. Dr. Sarin never helped fix his problem, but Sweden said he did.

He's full of horsecrap, haven't seen him, must have morphed into some resurrected ex old forum  member.

Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Moubgf on March 20, 2014, 04:48:52 PM
If i ever see dr.sarin in real life im personally gonna make him disabled one way or another for the rest of his life. Fk that low scum
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: KiloKAHN on March 20, 2014, 05:03:45 PM
I always knew there was some agenda with that Sweden guy. I read the entire Craige49 post. Dr. Sarin never helped fix his problem, but Sweden said he did.

He's full of horsecrap, haven't seen him, must have morphed into some resurrected ex old forum  member.

What agenda? Craig got messed up in Armenia by Dr Mirzoyan and had a broken rod put in his femur that couldn't get removed. He then went to Dr. Sarin and got the nail removed by him. He posted a pic of hinself with Dr Sarin in the hospital at the time.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: mmn_native on June 01, 2014, 09:17:31 AM
I want to share a video maybe it would change your insight into life and LL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uofFHeP-9zM
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Moubgf on June 01, 2014, 02:32:32 PM
I feel like the guy in the wheelchair already. All the knowledge, looks, and clothes..still not being able to utilize it. Fml
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: OregonMade on June 21, 2016, 06:22:37 AM
Dude that how India is.  Everyone fking lies here.  Not everyone but almost.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: OregonMade on June 21, 2016, 06:31:43 AM
mmm_native I am currently in the guest house of dr sarin and I was there when you created a ruckus after having marijuana and alcohol. it is easy to misguide and fake things up. u have used nice technology to put your experience. u seem to be very intelligent but be truthful also.  once my diary will start I will post all the pictures and everything what u did.

I have been in India long enough to know how people argue and how people make counter arguments.  They don't attach what you say about them directly they just make   up and attack that.  They try to discredit the person, which is completely a fallacy.  Just like this guy did.  He is attacking MMM_native for having marijuana and alcohol, and not address what mmm_native is actually saying.   

Also, this is an Indian person speaking you can tell by the broken english.  I know how indian text, and it sounds just like this guy.
I like how  the person attacking MMM_native doesn't actually say what the hell he actually did.  I have studied argumentation and rhetoric at the University level, and I can tell you that the person attacking mmm_native is using fallacies for his argumentation methods, which are the first line of defense for people that do not have a solid logical argument to make.  PEOPLE DO NOT BE FOOLED.  THE PERSON ATTACKING MMM_NATIVE IS WORKING FOR DR. SARIN.   
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: OregonMade on June 21, 2016, 06:39:34 AM
CoolHerman is a Sarin Staff member.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: OregonMade on June 21, 2016, 06:42:14 AM
Nice. But didn't  you admit to photoshopping your photo earlier? I was reading through your diary.

My x-Ray is pretty bad as well. I will try to obtain a copy from the hospital and post it later.

I thought he was being sarcastic when he said he photo shopped the photos.  I sensed sarcasm but maybe I am wrong.  mmm_native did you really photo shop those?
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: LLuser1 on June 21, 2016, 05:29:17 PM
I've seen Xrays of some Monegal patients like this, non union misalignments... Bad Xrays.
Mmn native how are you now?
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Ozymandias on June 21, 2016, 05:41:08 PM
I've seen Xrays of some Monegal patients like this, non union misalignments... Bad Xrays.
Mmn native how are you now?

You have an obsession, m8. Really.

blah blah blah monegal blah blah blah he is a liar blah blah blah spain lies everywhere blah blah blah trust me i know a lot blah blah blah...

IN. EVERY. F*CKING. THREAD.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Alu on June 21, 2016, 05:52:16 PM
Dude that how India is.  Everyone fking lies here.  Not everyone but almost.

Dude stop bumping 1+ year old threads.....

I've seen Xrays of some Monegal patients like this, non union misalignments... Bad Xrays.
Mmn native how are you now?


Dude... just shut up already. You point has been made, unsuccessfully by you, but still done none the less. So cut this crap already; you really are the most annoying member in this forum.

Also.... when are you gonna do LL? You keep dodging the question...
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: LLuser1 on June 21, 2016, 05:54:51 PM

Im telling what I've seen, just warning some people here from this man. You can't imagine which complications his patients have: Cooper, musicmaker and others Ask for their Xrays and you will see they are similar. I've seen Xrays like this. Very expensive corrections.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Alu on June 21, 2016, 06:08:03 PM
Im telling what I've seen, just warning some people here from this man. You can't imagine which complications his patients have: Cooper, musicmaker and others Ask for their Xrays and you will see they are similar. I've seen Xrays like this. Very expensive corrections.

When?
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: LLuser1 on June 21, 2016, 06:25:43 PM
read cooper's diaries to know the dates
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: TIBIKE200 on June 21, 2016, 07:19:17 PM
read cooper's diaries to know the dates

He asked when you are going to do LL.....

 Please stop with this stupid spamming of yours.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: LLuser1 on June 22, 2016, 04:35:49 PM
I won't do LL unless I find a surgeon who can be trusted. I have had surgery experiences before, however. I won't disclose the  details, I don't want to be identified.

@ Alu shut up. I have made my point successfully. I told the truth. Cooper told the truth and then people trusted me. Why don't you trust me?

@ Musicmaker why don't you post your Xrays then? If they are a real piece of art, post them.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Alu on June 22, 2016, 05:12:31 PM
@ Alu shut up. I have made my point successfully. I told the truth. Cooper told the truth and then people trusted me. Why don't you trust me?

You idiot. This isn't about you being right or wrong. I trust Cooper's story, so ergo I trust yours. But, because you're so simple minded, the point of this conversation isn't about you being right or wrong. It's about you still being a spaz on every thread you go too. Even if the mods were to create a Mega-sticky thread saying "LLUSER WAS RIGHT," I know for a fact you'd still go around random, non-Monegal threads and keep posting the same   over and over and over.

It's all you do. I've only counted one instance were you weren't beating up Monegal (I'm not saying that's right or wrong), and posted something constructive. It just seems your entire existence here is just for one purpose that's already fulfilled...
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: LLuser1 on June 22, 2016, 06:50:56 PM
I posted this here because these Xrays reminded me of some Monegal Xrays. Then I asked the guy how he was doing.
I'm not an idiot. If you read all my posts you will see I'm beating up Monegal but also other doctors. I've also posted constructive information, but I won't post anything personal.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: LLuser1 on June 23, 2016, 08:12:36 PM
I am not posting my x-rays for privacy reasons. I am sorry.

Privacy? With this doctor you don't have privacy. I won't post anything in the forum but I know who you are (name, occupation, background). Patients have told me things about you but the doctor himself has shown your pics to some people in this forum to boast. You are afraid of posting Xrays and he is afraid too because they are too bad but he wouldn’t care if they were good as he is showing private pics of you to patients.

If you care about privacy you shouldn't choose this doctor. If you see his presentation at the top of his thread you will see that he has kept the names and faces in the Xrays and pics of his patients. He will do the same with you. He simply doesn't care.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Penguinn on July 24, 2016, 10:36:31 AM
I am not posting my x-rays for privacy reasons. I am sorry.

Don't mean to bother you since you're going through complications but how will X-Rays damage your privacy?
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: LLuser1 on July 24, 2016, 04:41:48 PM
Don't mean to bother you since you're going through complications but how will X-Rays damage your privacy?
I am not posting my x-rays for privacy reasons. I am sorry.

It doesn't make sense. She doesn't want to post her Xrays because everybody would see how bad her case is and how bad her surgery was done. Very poor job this so called doctor did on a poor guinnnea pig! Beware of salesmen who don't care about your but your money like this man from Spain or this man from India. They have no skills and no morals. Patients are being manipulated. Dont trust them either unless many years from their surgeries.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: CCMidwest on July 25, 2016, 01:57:14 PM
I am not posting my x-rays for privacy reasons. I am sorry.

Don't mean to bother you since you're going through complications but how will X-Rays damage your privacy?

Maybe because she's tired of getting harassed by this ahole LLuser?

Maybe because instead of support and empathy, she gets sh*t on and sexually harassed?

Maybe because all this LLuser guy does is go around the forum saying the same things over and over again?

If LLuser has a personal vendetta against Dr. Monegal for whatever reason, then fine. But he really needs to shut the fck up about it already.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: YourSpaceBoyfriend on July 25, 2016, 02:46:01 PM
Where she was sexually harassed lol(seriously doe where)

If musicmaker has nothing to hide she would post a proof so LLuser could stop his "spreading lies"

Something smells bad here but its just my opinion doe.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Auron on July 25, 2016, 03:29:04 PM
Where she was sexually harassed lol(seriously doe where)

If musicmaker has nothing to hide she would post a proof so LLuser could stop his "spreading lies"

Something smells bad here but its just my opinion doe.
Everyone has things to hide in this forum lol.

Anyways, as far I know, MM had complications because she had a fracture from falling, I don't see how can the doctor be at fault here. Besides, LLuser said that MM is a millionaire, so she could afford any other doctor to solve her problem if she wanted to. If she didn't, its because shes trust her doctor.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: YourSpaceBoyfriend on July 25, 2016, 03:45:34 PM
Problem is both sides want to start a witch hunt but nobody really proved anything.

People want the truth and actual proof since it can change someone choice of a future LL doctor.

Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Auron on July 25, 2016, 03:58:05 PM
Problem is both sides want to start a witch hunt but nobody really proved anything.

People want the truth and actual proof since it can change someone choice of a future LL doctor.
I totally agree with you.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: CCMidwest on July 25, 2016, 04:58:13 PM
Where she was sexually harassed lol(seriously doe where)

I'm not Cooper. I don't a date with you. I prefer Musicmaker.  8)

^ ^ ^
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: YourSpaceBoyfriend on July 25, 2016, 05:15:54 PM
That's just more of a bad joke rather than sexual harassment.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: CCMidwest on July 25, 2016, 05:29:17 PM
That's just more of a bad joke rather than sexual harassment.

You're probably right. I was just being hyperbolic, had to try to fit in with the forum I guess.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: Auron on July 25, 2016, 05:33:06 PM
You're probably right. I was just being hyperbolic, had to try to fit in with the forum I guess.
He did talk about her private pics.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: LLCaptain on July 25, 2016, 06:45:18 PM
Privacy? With this doctor you don't have privacy. I won't post anything in the forum but I know who you are (name, occupation, background).

This guy is the creepiest and most invasive member on this forum. Yet ANOTHER instance where he forcibly changed someone's diary into a conversation about Monegal and his patients. Wtf is wrong with this guy? Why is he priming up personal details about a patient as ammo, like a threat. If this is not harassment, I don't know what else to call it.

Many members here don't even need LL, maybe an adjustment to their mental capacities as a human being and this is a prime candidate.
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: wannagrowtaller on September 12, 2019, 09:58:35 AM
Should I bump this thread? Well, I will do it.
just.for.fun
Title: Re: mmn_native- lengthening and correction(Dr.sarin)
Post by: guichet_chop on February 20, 2020, 03:53:51 PM
Does anybody knows what happen to mmn_native?