| Procedure: | $40,100 |
| Residence: | $1,467 per month / $4,401 for 3 months |
| Physiotherapy: | $34 per hour / $3,060 for 3 months |
| Summary: | $47,561 |
What type of pants can I wear over my healing legs for the 3 months? i.e. sweat pants, shorts, leggings, etc.I think I will just bring some shorts/swimming trunks. MAYBE I will bring one pair of jeans, but I'm not sure how that will make my life easier.
What type of shoes can I wear? I literally only wear leather boots; I do not own a pair of sneakers (not athletic).I will fly to Barcelona in my flip flops and just wear those the whole time I'm there. Again, I don't see how bringing a pair of running shoes will make my life any easier. (Does anybody else know if Physiotherapy requires running shoes? Or can I do it bare feet?)
Will I need to order food in every night for dinner?
I asked about groceries as well; apparently online grocery shopping and home delivery is prevalent over there. Dr. Monegal recommended www.mercadona.es (http://www.mercadona.es) . It's got good prices, and English, but the only thing that irks me is that there's no pictures. You have to buy based on the description of the product. I looked further and I prefer the interface for this grocer: www.alcampo.es (http://www.alcampo.es) . The site seems more polished and easier for English readers to navigate. Another one I thought might be ok is www.carritus.com (http://www.carritus.com) .I don't exactly know how I will get stuff delivered to MIC Sant Jordi, but I'll figure it out once I'm there. I'll let you know when I know.
Also, I haven't explored the options mentioned on this page (http://barcelona.angloinfo.com/af/500/barcelona-online-food-and-drink-stores.html) yet. But I have a feeling I will find this page useful in the future.
How will I occupy my time, rather than lie on my back for 16 hours per day?youtube.com, coursera.org, ocw.mit.edu, khanacademy.org.... You can also think of it as a chance to read all those books that you've always wanted to read but never had the time. Also, as Axelf said, it's the perfect time to learn a new language!
...I will need to carry an absurd amount of cash, and declare it to customs.
I think I will just bring some shorts/swimming trunks. MAYBE I will bring one pair of jeans, but I'm not sure how that will make my life easier.
I will fly to Barcelona in my flip flops and just wear those the whole time I'm there. Again, I don't see how bringing a pair of running shoes will make my life any easier. (Does anybody else know if Physiotherapy requires running shoes? Or can I do it bare feet?)
Note: the doctor has required me to give him his share of the rate (20k-ish) in cash in person to avoid the 20% tax fees on sizable bank transfers. I consider this a hassle, because I will need to carry an absurd amount of cash, and declare it to customs. However, I blame the Spanish government for that, not him. Regardless, everything else has transpired very seamlessly, and friendly. Both he and the residency have answered every question courteously and timely.
How are you doing now? How is the pain level and scars?
Man, you are in fking BARCELONA !!! This is like the best and most amazing city in Europe. The food is amazing, I guess, just google some stuff on tripadvisor, from time to time, like once in 3 days, order some nice meals from outside, the food is really good... Do not miss a chance to visit a game of F.C. Barcelona and witness the best player in history of soccer - Leo Messi, who is, ironically, only 169
if you fancying the meals at MIC that much....how much do they charge for it? and how can you get groceries to your room?
I am interested in doing 5 cm Femur and 3 cm tibia with him and would be curious how much time after the Femur he can to the tibia
Great diary so far!
I have a question and perhaps you can help me out on this one. So far I have saved up slightly more than 30 000€, I'd love to get this done for not more than 40 000€ in total. Do you think this is possible If I wanted to get something 5-7cm's with Dr. Monegal and a 2 months stay.
Greetings!
Edit: In a shared appartement to save money, which is about 800-900€ per month If I remember correctly.
Keep it up Bohemia, you re doing great! Soon you will no longer be a Hobbit!;)....How fast are you distracting?
Great diary so far!
I have a question and perhaps you can help me out on this one. So far I have saved up slightly more than 30 000€, I'd love to get this done for not more than 40 000€ in total. Do you think this is possible If I wanted to get something 5-7cm's with Dr. Monegal and a 2 months stay.
Greetings!
Edit: In a shared appartement to save money, which is about 800-900€ per month If I remember correctly.
With that budget you have lots of options in Europe.
Do you want to do internals? Did you consider externals too?
5-7 cm are an easy target I guess.
I don't have the time and will to endure externals and Dr. Monegal seems like a highly skilled surgeon so he'd be my favorite choice.
oh right i understand why people do internal femurs first now, because it is faster, but is it worth triple the price just to be done 4 months quicker than external tibia?It's more than just the higher recovery speed but also the better long term recovery. Most people who get their femurs done seem to do much better than the ones who do their tibiae. Whereas a lot of tibia patiens suffer from this surgery much longer.
i kind of thought people did internal femur as 2nd surgery until now.
thanks for the videos and stuff! how are you, how is your pain level when you 1) relax 2) PT 3)sleep 4)use the walker to stand up?
it's interesting to see the way Dr. Monegal performed the osteotomy on your bones. Looks like he doesn't use an intramedullary saw. I think that Paley doesn't like using a saw either because he prefers to "break the bone" so the scattered bone fragments help in callus formation..... I could be wrong on this but perhaps Dr. Monegal could give some input on the osteotomy technique.... thanks
I'm really, really happy for you! Can you see/feel any difference, being an inch taller?
Also, how much weight can the fit one bear? Can you walk with it if you use crutches or a walker, or must you always be wheelchair bound when moving?
congrats!!!
how you're feeling? any difference from what you've described in one of your last posts? (keywords pain/discomfort
Glad to hear that your muscle tension has gone down. Do you think you could post some photos of your proportions at 4CM, then at again at 8CM when you get there (and I'm sure you'll make it), so that we can see how much of a difference in proportion lengthening makes?
I will do what I can; perhaps when I hit the gym next I can snap a photo.Dang this fitbone thing sounds great, your already at the gym? Full weight bearing to I guess this sounds much better than Paley for sure. Plus the food looks nice all the best, i'm the same height as you gl with 8cm that is a lot i'm sure you will meet that goal soon enough.
I would like to update on a unique occurrence. Several days ago, I lie in bed, chilling on my laptop, with my legs extended in front of me in a sort of stretch/relax position that Claudio gave me. I hear a gentle sound and tension diminishes away in the right side of my knee. Two days later, I hear the same sound, and tension in the left side of my knee releases. Then, last night I hear it again in the right side of my left knee, and the tension vanishes. My legs feel very loose because of this. I explained to Claudio and he considered a sign of stretching eliminating knots; in any event, my legs feel almost 100% normal, except for tightness that surrounds the area of distraction.
I undergo a round of x-rays either today or tomorrow. I would like to avoid any fractures at all costs.
Dang this fitbone thing sounds great, your already at the gym?
Full weight bearing to I guess this sounds much better than Paley for sure. Plus the food looks nice all the best, i'm the same height as you gl with 8cm that is a lot i'm sure you will meet that goal soon enough.
To stretch and ride the stationary bicycle, yes, but not lift weights or anything like that. :)Looks so great. Very little scar. Congrats!
It does factually bear my weight, e.g., I walk unaided from the bike to the parallel bars three times per day, however I still utilize wheelchair for general safety. I will switch to a walker in 2 weeks, which amounts to 8 weeks in a chair.
Behold the majesty of the human immune system!
(http://i.imgur.com/qWw9opP.png)
- Swelling gone
- Discoloration eliminated
- Wounds shrank down
- Extension straightened
Dude this looks awesome,hoping to see ya when I visit MIC next week...Btw how much do you weigh? got curious when yo said the nail can hold your weight
Hello Bohemia, you sem to be having a decent time at Monegals place. His clinic is really proving to be a very valid option in my eyes.
Could you tell us a bit on how you prepared for the surgery beforehand, your stretches, diet and other exercise?
Thank you and good luck.,
Wow! You look really good and well proportioned so far. If I were to pass you walking on the street in Spain, it wouldn't even cross my mind to wonder if you had LL.
I also live in Spain at the moment. Regarding Internet, I buy a data plan from Lycamobile that gives 5GB of 4G internet for 23 euro. I then tether my phone to my laptop to get internet on both devices. For me it works quite well when wifi is not available or working well.
what will your final bone length be both for tibia and femur.
Wow! You look really good and well proportioned so far. If I were to pass you walking on the street in Spain, it wouldn't even cross my mind to wonder if you had LL.
I also live in Spain at the moment. Regarding Internet, I buy a data plan from Lycamobile that gives 5GB of 4G internet for 23 euro. I then tether my phone to my laptop to get internet on both devices. For me it works quite well when wifi is not available or working well.
good news, i would check the old forum about tibia and femur ratio, it would be good to know if you started out with natrually long femurs, i think there have been some cases of femur patients that lengthen too much then need to do tibia as they have knee problems.
Your proportions look very good in that pic Bohemia and this is coming from the most fanatical proportion nazi on the board.
Considering you're at 5 CM how do you feel with that height. Is it noticeable. I know you can't quite do a lot given your state but from just standing up do you notice a clear difference?
Thanks
Good to hear things are going well for you. Just wondering about the distraction machine; is it yours to keep, or do you have to send it back once you are finished lengthening? I know that "precise device" has to be returned to the doctor, and I think you have to leave a deposit if you take it back with you to your home country.
When are you supposed to return to Barcelona again?
Thank you for sharing your diary
I would like to know what was the price for a single room at MIC?
Were you given the option of the fitbone device being surgically inserted through the knee or hip?
Look foward to your progress and because of your diary I have decided to most likely change my mind from Dr. betz to Dr. Monegal.
How does it feel when you lengthen with the transmisor? Does it hurts?
How is the pain and discomfort so far?
Thanks for the update
How is your PT going how often do u hire your physical therapist? How would u rate it? Do you think you actually need a physical therapist or could u handle PT on your own?
Could u actually walk and go grocery shopping if u wanted to?
Thank you in advance for your service
Thanks again,
How many mm are u lengthening per day I wasn't sure just saw the video once before u had to take it off
Good luck on your recovery u going to be home soon
Hi Bohemia!
I just wanted to say that I am really impressed by your attitude and good spirits. I have been reading this forum for a while and have yet to post, but your journal has been fascinating and very uplifting. Congratulations on all your progress and your photos look great. It looks like Dr. Monegal is an outstanding physician and really cares about his patients. I suppose when my work situation allows me to take some time off, I will definitely book a consultation with Dr. Monegal.
To that end, do you find that you are able to get any work done? I am not sure if you are taking time off or not, but could you put in 5 or 6 hours a day to work?
In any case, thank you so much for keeping a great journal! Keep up the great progress!
Many thanks,
For all the info. Now you are going to departure from spain in the next days.
When will you able to drive your car?
Good trip
one question if you live in other country next to barcelona, do you think that you have to stay in the hospital for three months or how long had you been stayed in the hospital? one month, two month?
Do you have any ballerina foot?
I believe you look great you are definitely right about maybe your femurs looking small before surgery. Your legs in general look very appealing
Are you going to continue for 8cm?
Who will be taking care of you back in the states?
You look good but I would personally stop here. 2 more cm won't make a huge difference height wise but when you've already lengthened 6 cm it could mean a lot for your recovery and proportions.
That's just me though.
Honestly do u feel 7cm is good enough for me I'm 163cm slightly shorter than u. Why did u decide 8cm is there a logic behind this
Honestly do u feel 7cm is good enough for me I'm 163cm slightly shorter than u. Why did u decide 8cm is there a logic behind this
Bohemia,
Your legs look nice, When you see a person dont see the legs, first you see the face, the height and the body shape.
I think that you have to achive your goal, just one month more.
In other hand, what kind of physical activiti can you do now?
Can you walk with crutches? how many steps? how is your pain?
Many thanks and cheers
hello
yes 8 cm is perfect 173CM
normal size in france is 175cm
Bohemia, if I wanted to carry out full distraction in my home country with the Fitbone about a week after surgery, is this an option??
Bohemia,
Have a nice trip.
If it is possible, please let us know how its your recovery, in the consolidation phase and when you start to walk because I had a lot of question about leg bow, and the full recovery.
You have done a good work for us
Many thanks for your time.
Hey Bohemia,
Wanted to say thanks for the detailed diary and hope you finish your 8cm without issue. I've been following you from the beginning and can say your and the other Monegal diaries gave me the peace of mind to follow through LL in Barcelona.
Good luck!
Bohemia,
Have you thought about to do tibias too?? internal o external? how many cms?
or do you think that the pain for a new operation will be worst than your confidence?
Good recovery
Hey hope all is well
Do u have another physical therapist in Phili or are you doing PT on your own?
How is it being back home?
Bohemia,
Can you walk up And down stair with crutches?? How??
You have to put all the weight in just one leg??
Could you upload a vídeo??
I thought that you can dont climb stairs in the first 4 month Or similar
Many thanks, i dont know how many things can you do in the first stages of the LL :(
Wow congrats
Do you know about how long u have to be on crutches after you have finished lengthening?
What is your typical day like?
How has lengthening been past 5 cm? Is the tension much stronger and prevalent? If so when did you start noticing it?
Hey Buddy!
I guess you won't know yet until it happens, but how will you know when you max out the nail? Does the distraction machine cease to work, or does the counter cease to increment, or the motor just stops?
when will you have to return back to spain to get nail removed?
man your going twice as fast as i am, once i hit 6cm my doctor advised me 0.5mm a day, obviously im doing tibia so it will be slower but yeah.
it's going to be so awesome for us going from 5 5 to 5 8. did the doctor mention anything different between 7.5 and 8.0cm, it seems some doctors say 7.5 is safe limit, and others say 8.0, it's hard to get a straight answer.
i also read that you don't get the full height you lengthen with femur, due to angle, so if you stop at 8cm you will actually get 7.3cm or something, this is due to the fact that the femur done is not straight like the tibia bone is, have you asked the doctor about anything like that.
What is the estimated time that you will walk without aid?
Mid December I can walk without crutches.That's quite impressive, given that I did my surgery a month and a half before you and I'm not expected to be able to walk without crutches until end of November or end of December.
The idea of it seems incredible. I can barely fathom it right now.
keep you pushing Bohemia!!!
you are going to reach your goal.
In One month can you start to walk unaid it is simply awesome.
That is truly amazing, and blows external out of the water regardless of price. What is the estimated time you will be able to run and be "fully recovered"?
That's quite impressive, given that I did my surgery a month and a half before you and I'm not expected to be able to walk without crutches until end of November or end of December.
I regret to inform everyone that I crutched around today in normal shoes and I still suffer from height dysphoria. 5'8.5 still feels small.
I have become depressed again, and wonder about tibias for 5'10+
Maybe I need therapy, IDK
I regret to inform everyone that I crutched around today in normal shoes and I still suffer from height dysphoria. 5'8.5 still feels small.
I have become depressed again, and wonder about tibias for 5'10+
Maybe I need therapy, IDK
Wow Bohemia! How does the novelty of 8cm wear off that fast?!
Sorry to hear how you are feeling. I agree with others when they say that it's too early to become accustomed to your new height. Just concentrate on your full recovery and don't worry too much about the world around you for now.
metamorphosis: a change of the form or nature of a thing or person into a completely different one, by natural or supernatural means.
this entire process(not just physical) takes time.
To be honest, 5'8.5" is still small, even people who are 5'10 and 5'11 nowadays are still having height phobia.
The only height which is considered not small is 190cm+ who happens to be my German roommate. He actually told everyone he felt big. Or you can try and become a rap star who looks big on TV and in music but small in person.
Eventually there will come a day where we can increase 20cm+ safely and economically. Until then, I just be content with myself and check up the news once in a while for something positive.
Today's news... James Deen, pornstar who is watched by Taylor Swift, is 170cm. You're taller than him if that makes you feel better :)
I believe it's just the fact that now you know it's possible to get taller but congrats and wow 5' 8.5" is an amazing height in my eyes. But of course I'm only 5' 4" so that sounds great to me. I think you just need time and after 3-5 months if you still not satisfied then you have option.
Don't forget at what height you started 8cm is an enormous accomplishment
Bohemia,
you are the same with 8 cms more than before, You have now a bit more confidence.
You are the same without 8 Kg less than before. You have now a bit more confidence.
Enjoy the path and you new height. Give you time.
we are Never going to be enough tall to play in the NBA, you can know this.
Is you are a normal boy after LL you will be a normal boy but taller
Cheers
I agree with Dave. You should take at least a year or two for yourself. Pursue some interest that you enjoy and just get LL out of your head while you recover. If after that time your height is still bothering you, you'll know what to do. It's been 5 years since I had the surgery. On the other hand, you don't want to wait too long because when it comes to healing, there's nothing like a young body. Don't waste your life in depression. Enjoy each step in the process and remember to celebrate the victories in your life as they come. DoingItForMe ... You're a bit taller than me. 5'9'' is a fine height ;)
I would argue for you too seek therapy in your case Bohemia. I can understand the need to keep going in terms of becoming even taller then what you've achieved but perhaps therapy could help alleviate some pain you're mentally feeling right now. Ultimately, I don't know it will work or not, but considering the implications of going through this process again you should try as best you can to make sure you're not gonna rush into it.
LL doesn't cure depression and body dysmorphia. Those need to be cured psychologically.
Bohemia, try wearing some 1.5" shoes/shoe lifts for a while and seeing if this helps you with your height dysmorphia. If it doesn't, then another surgery probably won't cure it. I wear quite thick soled sneakers to get me to 5'10", and I don't feel short at all. My height dysmorphia is gone. I think you can get away with adding an inch to your shoes without anyone calling you out on it.
How tall are you now, M, to still feel short in the airport crowd after LL?
Hey Bohemia! This is totally understandable. Remember at this very moment it is totally out of your control. At this moment you are going to have to let your body recuperate before you even can go in for another surgery. I urge you to not sweat this while it's out of your control. You made a great step in transforming your life. Take a step back and appreciate what you have achieved so far. Now it's time for you to dive into your work or whatever you were thinking you wanted to achieve after this last surgery. If in three months from now you want to do that surgery, awesome! You've just gone through some discipline to spend three months healing your body. That takes amazing commitment. Take 3 months to commit to another goal. It doesn't mean you are going to relinquish goal of having another surgery. It just means your mind needs something else to commit to while you heal from your existing surgery.
You don't need therapy my friend. You need to be 5'10'' + ... I lengthened my femurs and experienced the same disappointment in the airport on the way home when I realized I still felt short in the crowd. In fact, I remember thinking to myself, "Wow, I don't feel much of a difference at all." The good news is that lengthening both segments gives the best visual result anyway. I'm going back for tibs for a few reasons: 1.) I still feel short 2.) my gait is off because my femurs are disproportionately long 3.) lengthening both segments most certainly produces the best aesthetic ... you'll look normal ... just a lot taller. I've enjoyed your diary so much. In your disappointment, don't forget that you've won something for yourself. What you did is unheard of in the general population. You just need a bit more ... Believe me, if you do your tibs also, your height will really pop. There won't be any doubt. I'm considering Monegal myself. Would you recommend him for internal tibias? I consulted with Mahboubian as well, but the price is steep in L.A. We'll see ...
Bohemia,
This brings up the question of how do you feel now with 8 cm in terms of proportions. Do you feel comfortable visually with those longer femurs now then before? Have you asked your friends/family members how you look with longer legs?
Are you really wiling to sacrifice proportionality for and extra 1-2"? I'm not criticizing you in any way shape or form; I'm asking for the sake of wanting to know how 8 cm extra in height feels and whether you are willing to give up proportionality.
As a 5'10 guy with height dysphoria, I can understand a lot of why you feel as you do. It's just unfortunate and irrational, especially at my own height. But irrationality is part of what gives life color, and makes it an interesting and intriguing experience, though sometimes at the expense of happiness and comfort.
I can tell you from experience that at 5'9 and 5'10 (I was 5'9 for a long time before naturally squeezing out one more inch to get to 5'10) you won't face any discrimination or rude treatment because of your height. Everyone perceives your height as normal, even if you feel small. I don't think 5'8.5 would be that much different.
BUT, I think some people are just mentally a certain height, and physically being any other height feels "off" even if it's a very normal height. I really relate to your feelings about being at one's ideal height feeling liberating, even if there is no rational explanation for it.
I've personally gotten to the point where LL doesn't feel like a need, but more of a want. If you an also get to this point, it's not a bad place to be, but it does kind of stink to always have height insecurity lingering in the very back of the mind, sometimes rearing its head when you least expect it. But if you find things you love to do and do them often, and surround yourself with people who appreciate you, this can be kept to a minimum.
As a 5'10 guy with height dysphoria, I can understand a lot of why you feel as you do. It's just unfortunate and irrational, especially at my own height. But irrationality is part of what gives life color, and makes it an interesting and intriguing experience, though sometimes at the expense of happiness and comfort.
I can tell you from experience that at 5'9 and 5'10 (I was 5'9 for a long time before naturally squeezing out one more inch to get to 5'10) you won't face any discrimination or rude treatment because of your height. Everyone perceives your height as normal, even if you feel small. I don't think 5'8.5 would be that much different.
BUT, I think some people are just mentally a certain height, and physically being any other height feels "off" even if it's a very normal height. I really relate to your feelings about being at one's ideal height feeling liberating, even if there is no rational explanation for it.
I've personally gotten to the point where LL doesn't feel like a need, but more of a want. If you an also get to this point, it's not a bad place to be, but it does kind of stink to always have height insecurity lingering in the very back of the mind, sometimes rearing its head when you least expect it. But if you find things you love to do and do them often, and surround yourself with people who appreciate you, this can be kept to a minimum.
I think your proportions look good at 6'0. Not very normal, but honestly good.
I can honestly say that I respect you a lot for this. I personally don't care who or at what height people get this surgery done, you can be 6'5 going to 6'7 and I personally wouldn't care. This is due to the fact that 99.99% of the human population won't be getting this surgery done (although let's face it if there was a biologically sound/safe and proportionally elongated method of increasing one's height it'd be the most popular cosmetic procedure) and I believe in one's right to do whatever they want with their bodies (ignorant of the effects or not). But, what I feel is most important is realizing the reason why you're doing it. If one of your reason for doing LL is simply to feel superior to your fellow man or over inflate your ego or simply for dating purposes then really that's bottom of the barrel reason to do it. LL mainly serves to get rid of that weight of feeling insecure.
Another aspect is realizing that at a certain height you're not in any dire situation. Case in point a 5'10 male living in America feeling short next to some 6'0+ dudes. Sure he's short in that aspect and that might want to drive him to become that height considering his situation, but he is not in any way comparable to someone below 5'7. This brings me to the other point that since we are all so height-minded we feel the massive need to either be average or surpass it, but it's sometimes ok just be at average or slightly below average if that's all one can reasonably max out at with LL (I'm referring to the subjective limit in one's own proportions here not anything else). Just be happy that we live in an age where we can increase our height and play with those cards; and know that you don't/shouldn't quantify the value of happiness to a number.
I would like to mention a few things related to your recent post. In my experience, your feelings are completely normal. The problem with this procedure is that you go into it with the expectation that you will come out of it looking and feeling exactly like the tall, beautiful person you have imagined in your dreams. However ... as always ... the dream must be confronted with the reality. In reality, you are still slightly below average height ... and so it is not unreasonable for you to sometimes feel short in a crowd. You will find that, in some situations, you really notice the height difference ... and at other times, not so much. The other problem is that - as you mentioned - you plan and work toward the procedure for years (in my case) and then, before you know it, it's over and done with. You expect the fight of your life ... and then in turns out to be much easier than you ever imagined (dare I say, the process is boring!) You are left with a tremendous amount of residual energy and motivation. The truth is (depending on what height you start out at), 3 inches just might not be enough to satiate you. This in no way negates how miraculous this procedure is. Although my initial reaction was disappointment, I have learned to be more dispassionate in my analysis. In my own situation, it will be necessary to do a second lengthening to achieve the desired result. It would have been more convenient to do it once and be satisfied, but that didn't turn out to be the reality (for me). You have made all the right moves so far. If you're a certain type of person (like me), you'll end up going back for more. But you owe it to yourself to take some time to yourself now. Sit back for a while and celebrate this tremendous accomplishment in your life. People overcome adversity everyday ... but you overcame your BIOLOGY!!!
I regret to inform everyone that I crutched around today in normal shoes and I still suffer from height dysphoria. 5'8.5 still feels small.
I have become depressed again, and wonder about tibias for 5'10+
Maybe I need therapy, IDK
Hello y'all, apparently the moderators have unlocked my diary. LOL I still have no idea what I personally did that disrupted any rules, but say hello again to Bohemia. :)
I would like to post a video that exhibits my latest climbing of steps up and down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-zsiMyoWB0
Also, photos of my leg proportions lying down on a couch, and current scars.
(http://i.imgur.com/L6Tp2nS.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/SOWCeHR.png)
Your femurs are too long. They don't look good in my opinion. You should have done 6 cm. Long legs are just for chicks
Let us now how the recovery goes!
For me the breaking of the legs was easier than expected but the taking out of the nails was harder than expected.
So it took me like 2 months to be at the same state as before the removal.
I allowed 2.5 years (30 months) for my bones to completely heal and muscles to strengthen. It seemed crazy that people would remove them within 12 months and even lift weights! The diary of programdude verified this for me so I remained very cautious and told myself to give it two years or more.
As usual a troll trying to screw a legit and genuine diary.
Go and find a job dude! These guys are good. Brilliant I would say.
Who are you calling a criminal?
Paley? Maybe you support him...enjoy the reading
https://www.google.es/amp/www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-doctor-dror-paley-20160318-story,amp.html
Bohemia doesn't look mentally stable. His pics and videos give a bad impression. I don't trust him.
Being a patient myself I can tell Bohemia was a legitimate patient of Dr. Monegal. His diary explains what I am also going through.
Keep it up Bohemia.
Let's play the devil's advocate. How can you tell he's real when you've never met him?
I don't understand some of you and your obsession with unsubstantiated witch hunts.
Read his post again, carefully this time:
They share doctors, they went to the same clinic, maybe ate in the same cafe, etc. This alone helps him to believe that the photos posted here are real. He also read the diary here, and the descriptions probably resemble his own experience. We even have YouTube videos of the same voice in all clips, one even has the doctor in it.
How can I really tell that you're not a dog pretending to be a human (https://i.imgur.com/N2mWPaZ.png)? I don't, but I'm pretty sure.
I feel that Bohemia's being unfairly targeted for his fashion sense and lifestyle, which has nothing to do with the quality of content that he voluntarily shared with us. This isn't a school playground in which we point fingers and say "he looks different"; do try to remember that insults are against the rules. Don't forget that we're here to learn and talk about CLL.
As usual a troll trying to screw a legit and genuine diary.
Go and find a job dude! These guys are good. Brilliant I would say.
Who are you calling a criminal?
Paley? Maybe you support him...enjoy the reading
https://www.google.es/amp/www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/fl-doctor-dror-paley-20160318-story,amp.html