Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Information About Limb Lengthening => Topic started by: Oneguyboxer on January 28, 2014, 12:01:12 AM
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I'm new to this
I'm looking for some questions being answered by ppl who has had LL
What is a full recovery ??
Can you return to normal life
Sports? I do full contact sports
Boxing , Mma , football
Are all these possible after LL
Say like 4-5cm
Is it more likely to make a full recovery
What are ppl experiences with this and how long would it take for a full recovery
Hope you all can help :)
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Although we havent seen any exact proof that a full recovery is possible, we havent seen anything conclusive that it wouldnt be possible either.
What we do know is that there are famous athletes that have been able to recover and compete at the highest level after a severe injuries like leg breaks etc, although i guess it is rare and they have access to the best medical equipment and doctors.
it has been proven that the bone recovers to be as strong as before, or even stronger, after a break. However the soft tissue is the question, i have heard people saying that the soft tissue grows new mass to accomodate the longer bone, but some claim the soft tissue is only stretched. If the latter is true then i think the soft tissue wouldnt be able to be as strong as it was before, the muscles can be trained to become bigger but they would still be stretched more than they where before.
I certainly hope a full recovery is possible :-\
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I consider myself pretty much fully recovered. I can walk normally and run almost as fast as I used to be able to, but my balance and agility aren't what they used to be. The longer legs are just harder to move quickly.
I'm never was an athlete, so I don't know about playing sports after LL. Your performance would be reduced, but I'm not sure by how much.
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If you have the money, go to Dr Guichet for the consultation first and hear what he says. He is focused alot more on athletic recovery than other Doctors. I have not done LL but I am considering a few doctors. Wish you the best.
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If you have the money, go to Dr Guichet for the consultation first and hear what he says. He is focused alot more on athletic recovery than other Doctors. I have not done LL but I am considering a few doctors. Wish you the best.
I've looked at dr Jamal
Any feed back there ?
Dr Guichet cost just seem abit to out of reach at the moment
Plus at maybe 4 cm I was hoping for less complications and 100% recovery
Thanks for the help
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Full recovery varies from individual to individual.
Some people complain of knee-pain. Others have difficulty with regaining full athletic performance. While other have lost their sex drive after returning home (me). I have lost interest in women completely and haven't watch porno for 1 year. So I wonder if that is normal.
As for MMA... if anyone is interested, I can make a mini-video of me, a 5'6 office clerk, doing MMA this weekend. I may not be as agile and explosive as Sweden, but keep in mind that I'm never an athlete to begin with. And all of my MMA experience coming from watching movies and UFC. Let me know if you're interested. Thanks.
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As for MMA... if anyone is interested, I can make a mini-video of me, a 5'6 office clerk, doing MMA this weekend. I may not be as agile and explosive as Sweden, but keep in mind that I'm never an athlete to begin with. And all of my MMA experience coming from watching movies and UFC. Let me know if you're interested. Thanks.
I'd love to see this. Thanks!
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You won't recover fully.
You can do sports some days but never like before.
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You won't recover fully.
You can do sports some days but never like before.
Ok that's something to take in
Brutal honesty ! That's what I'm looking for
No ifs or buts or 90%
I compete and sport is a huge part of my life
If performance was seriously affected that would be a big downer on it
Or I was to pick up lot of leg injuries down the line
Thanks
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Full recovery varies from individual to individual.
Some people complain of knee-pain. Others have difficulty with regaining full athletic performance. While other have lost their sex drive after returning home (me). I have lost interest in women completely and haven't watch porno for 1 year. So I wonder if that is normal.
As for MMA... if anyone is interested, I can make a mini-video of me, a 5'6 office clerk, doing MMA this weekend. I may not be as agile and explosive as Sweden, but keep in mind that I'm never an athlete to begin with. And all of my MMA experience coming from watching movies and UFC. Let me know if you're interested. Thanks.
Post you video
That would be good to watch
It's interesting to know what you've posted
The lost of sex drive ......has other ppl suffered with this ?
Thanks
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You won't recover fully.
You can do sports some days but never like before.
There is no concrete proof that full recovery is impossible. One has to consider that the movement and functionality of a longer leg will always be different from a smaller one, so if you cannot move exactly the same way like you could while shorter, then that doesnt necessarily indicate that you are worse now, it might just feel different.
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There is no concrete proof that full recovery is impossible. One has to consider that the movement and functionality of a longer leg will always be different from a smaller one, so if you cannot move exactly the same way like you could while shorter, then that doesnt necessarily indicate that you are worse now, it might just feel different.
Yea true
Things like
Muscle tares in training due to an already stretched muscle
And can your legs cope with impacts and things like explosive movements
There my worries
Obviously things will feel different and have to adjust
I'd like to hear from ppl who have had LL
And have returned to sports successfully
Thanks
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You won't recover fully.
You can do sports some days but never like before.
You should definitely take Sweden's comment seriously. He is probably the only true athlete who has done LL on this forum.
I'm more of a gym hobbyist than an athlete. Before LL I was a couch potato. The only sport I watch is MMA/Boxing, so I will be showing you my MMA this weekend (I work full-time during weekdays). I will try my best to perform and not disappoint! :D
When you are taller, you definitely have more advantages in fights. It's a lot easier attacking downward than upward. However, if the guy launch at your legs, you will have a hard-time maintaining your balance. But if any guys want to pick on me now, I don't mind standing my ground.
Regarding your question about sex drive, I have lost it. Before LL, I always go out on dates, but now I don't. So that's the only difference. I haven't felt any pain anywhere in the body since the frames were removed last summer. So the issues varies between individuals.
So the video will be made this weekend, stay tune!
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You should definitely take Sweden's comment seriously. He is probably the only true athlete who has done LL on this forum.
I'm more of a gym hobbyist than an athlete. Before LL I was a couch potato. The only sport I watch is MMA/Boxing, so I will be showing you my MMA this weekend (I work full-time during weekdays). I will try my best to perform and not disappoint! :D
When you are taller, you definitely have more advantages in fights. It's a lot easier attacking downward than upward. However, if the guy launch at your legs, you will have a hard-time maintaining your balance. But if any guys want to pick on me now, I don't mind standing my ground.
Regarding your question about sex drive, I have lost it. Before LL, I always go out on dates, but now I don't. So that's the only difference. I haven't felt any pain anywhere in the body since the frames were removed last summer. So the issues varies between individuals.
So the video will be made this weekend, stay tune!
When you say things like like maintaining your balance
I don't understand why ?
Is that to do with muscle strength or just getting used to the extra height
If I train in a pair of Nike airs
Or where boots my balance is fine
I would only look to lengthen this amount you see
It will be good to here more from Sweden what sort of training he does how things have been effected if possible :)
What is the best way forward frames or internal
I've heard of knees problems with internal ?
I'm not an expert but in training I have a lot of knowledge
With your sex drive
Maybe your body is still recovering plus with the Mma your doing and maybe more it could be pushing your body hard and mentally
Almost like over training affect
Which will affect sex drive
Try plenty of protein in your diet and enough carbs also try a natural test producer might kick you into gear anabol 19 USN is quite good
Hope it helps
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You won't recover fully.
You can do sports some days but never like before.
I agree.
I would have never done LL in my twenties because of all the sports that I was competing in.
Once you do LL you can forget about the level you had reached before LL.
I decided to do LL at the age of 45. Sure, I didn't know about LL before that age. But still, when I was thinking about doing LL in april 2013, a huge worry of mine was whether I could do sports at an acceptable level again. I came to the conclusion that this will not be possible but Iwent for LL anyhow because my body was already completely fked up after 30 years of sports.
For example, I can't really play good tennis any more because 30 years of tennis have fked up my right shoulder, ellbow and wrist. Soccer is over, too. If you play soccer at the age of 40 plus, you are constantly gonna have injuries (unless you avoid fast running).
I completely fked up my right knee in a horrible accident in the mountains 8 years ago.
So, I guess you get the conclusion: the sports life that I loved so much was over anyway, so I might as well do LL.
If you are under 30 and sports is a huge part of your life: do not do LL.
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What about gym and street workout? Is it possible to pimp your body seriously after LL? Or there could be problems with leg days? Ty.
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Dude, You should be happy if you can walk normally again after the surgery. Nevermind putting 90 kilos on your back and doing 12 reps. wtf?
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:) I don't do that now when I'm fit, just using my body for almost every single excercise.
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What about gym and street workout? Is it possible to pimp your body seriously after LL? Or there could be problems with leg days? Ty.
I will resume workout immediately after standing up on crutches. I will only train my upper body, core and back, however, and I am allowed to do leg extension (quadriceps) and leg curl (hamstrings). I won't go under heavy weights afoot. Squat, for instance, is out of the question until full consolidation. So is leg press (as it places a vertical pressure on the bone, which should be avoided).
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Let's say the normal test of fitness ability
Push Up, 2.4Km Run, Sprint 200M, Standing Broad Jump
Climbing Stairs, Skipping Rope, Climbing Gym Wall
All these are measurable fitness conditions that you can put numbers to. Will it be possible to do all these after recovery? How many % of pre op recovery is possible?
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What about gym and street workout? Is it possible to pimp your body seriously after LL? Or there could be problems with leg days? Ty.
Yes. It is possible. I've been doing the superman lift... standing up and pushing 90lb over my head.
Unfortunately, I've been doing it the all natural way.. no steroid or any other shortcut.. so I look kind of skinny.
I will be putting a video up this weekend.. but right now, I'm trying to figure out how to blur my face.. as I don't want everyone in my city to know that I have done LL.. lol
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When you say things like like maintaining your balance
I don't understand why ?
Is that to do with muscle strength or just getting used to the extra height
If I train in a pair of Nike airs
Or where boots my balance is fine
I would only look to lengthen this amount you see
It will be good to here more from Sweden what sort of training he does how things have been effected if possible :)
What is the best way forward frames or internal
I've heard of knees problems with internal ?
I'm not an expert but in training I have a lot of knowledge
With your sex drive
Maybe your body is still recovering plus with the Mma your doing and maybe more it could be pushing your body hard and mentally
Almost like over training affect
Which will affect sex drive
Try plenty of protein in your diet and enough carbs also try a natural test producer might kick you into gear anabol 19 USN is quite good
Hope it helps
Thanks for the advice. However, I'm quite happy with the single life where I can just concentrate on myself and not others.
"When you say things like like maintaining your balance
I don't understand why ?
Is that to do with muscle strength or just getting used to the extra height "
- it has to do with muscle strength and ankle strength. And because your legs are longer than you used to, you also have to deal with maintaining of a pair of lanky long legs which have been weakened through several surgeries and stretching of the muscle.
However, I lengthened a whole 8cm. If you just seek 4cm, then your result should be different.
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Thanks for the advice. However, I'm quite happy with the single life where I can just concentrate on myself and not others.
"When you say things like like maintaining your balance
I don't understand why ?
Is that to do with muscle strength or just getting used to the extra height "
- it has to do with muscle strength and ankle strength. And because your legs are longer than you used to, you also have to deal with maintaining of a pair of lanky long legs which have been weakened through several surgeries and stretching of the muscle.
However, I lengthened a whole 8cm. If you just seek 4cm, then your result should be different.
Smallguy, what do you think happens to the muscles after they get stretched out from LL? do the muscles adapt eventually and get longer (adding more mass)? Thats what i heard the guys over at old forum say. But im not sure.
also the bone itself should be stronger where it was broken than before as the body adapts. I guess it puts more pressure on the ankles compared to before but the extra pressure is the same as it would have been if you where born with taller legs to begin with.
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Smallguy, what do you think happens to the muscles after they get stretched out from LL? do the muscles adapt eventually and get longer (adding more mass)? Thats what i heard the guys over at old forum say. But im not sure.
also the bone itself should be stronger where it was broken than before as the body adapts. I guess it puts more pressure on the ankles compared to before but the extra pressure is the same as it would have been if you where born with taller legs to begin with.
Your muscle gets severely weaken from LL. That's for sure. However, I feel like I can get back 100% of my pre-LL agility if I try.
1. Yes, the muscle increases as you do more running and other exercises. Combine with eating healthily, your body adapts to your routine. That why I think indian patients have a slower time recovering (eg. Crazy 6?) compare to someone who lives in a 1st world city like me. I eat the most fresh food on the planet and live in the most clean environment.
2. The pressure on your ankle and knee certainly increase after you have longer bones. Maybe that's why some ppl have pain. But I feel that with enough exercises, like jumping jacks and rope, you can eventually adapt to your longer legs. Right now, I'm trying to increase my explosiveness. That means I will choose for shorter duration but more intense workout.. like trying to run really quickly on the treadmill for 10 mins instead of climbing the steps for 30 minutes.
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I'm new to this
I'm looking for some questions being answered by ppl who has had LL
What is a full recovery ??
Can you return to normal life
Sports? I do full contact sports
Boxing , Mma , football
Are all these possible after LL
Say like 4-5cm
Is it more likely to make a full recovery
What are ppl experiences with this and how long would it take for a full recovery
Hope you all can help :)
There's been some really interesting posts on here ....thanks
But I haven't heard of anyone who has recovered fully and has returned to sports to a good level there happy with
Or if doing only 4 cm would make a big difference
Is there anyone out there that has done just that I wonder and who with and which way they did there LL
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lets say f someone s currently in the fire service or police force do you think they could fully recover for the job if they did cll?
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Maybe, but if that's the career you really want I wouldn't take a chance like that.
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Like MDW, I think recovery varies on an individual basis.
However, for me, I really messed up. 6 surgeries plus 3 broken bones (pre-consolidate), two nails inserted and one bent plate... I could still perform running speed at 5.5miles/hour after 6 months of recovery.
Regarding the career you mention above., I could be a police man. I could sprint and do different kicks. I could easily tackle a criminal (not to mention use firearm or taser gun). I could be a fireman. I could lift 100lb over my head and do 10 reps. My endurance is also better than most people at my gym.
However, at the moment, I don't think I can be a viable Tae Kwon Do competitor. I can't do a flying side-kick nor perform long jump. I can't dash back and forth as I use to. I can't play soccer, basketball nor footfall. But I can play hockey!
My ortho said I still have a lot of recovery left to do. It's all a matter of time but your recovery is limitless and it depends on yourself.
Is it still worth it in the end? Sure! More happy, less height neurosis, more confident and success at picking up random women in Vancouver have also increased.
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Thanks for the detailed response, Smallguy! Do you see yourself being able to play soccer or basketball in the short run? Maybe within a year or so? Man, all those surgeries.. You definitely went through a lot. A family friend told me that she thought I'd have a much more difficult time with LL than I apparently did.. I'm lucky I guess, you're a warrior.
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Regarding gym-going by the way, I already feel fit enough to go to the gym and do an upper body workout, swim, and do leg extension. I obviously can't run yet; it's been a week since I've been using the walker but I'm way too enthusiastic for hitting the gym again. If only I had my car.. It's still in service, getting fixed..
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Yeah, this summer will be amazing for the both of us.
Before I couldn't get over my height of 5'6 so always have to wear 2.5inches insole. I had this "can't lose" attitude where I stuff as many things in my shoes as humanly possible before going to a club or meeting a superficial girl. Height was normally the biggest reason for rejection. But as you know, with lift you have to hide it by wearing long boot-cut jeans. For the past 5 years, there wasn't a summer gone by where I could wear shorts freely. It's sucks wearing thick rock & republic jeans in a 30+ degrees hot summer.
But this summer, I can wear shorts (and you too). It's a biggest break a short guy can have.
I can play soccer and basketball but will be a bit slower in movement speed. Short guys are usually quite quick with their short legs on the field. We will have to deal with our lanky limbs. But I think if you put your mind to it, then you can play these sports perfectly again. Yeah, your LL case is actually perfect. Congratulation!
Yeah take it lightly at first. Make sure your bones are consolidated well enough before exerting physical force or lift heavier weight.
Today, a girl said she liked my shorts. And I said thank you. Then as I walked away, she said to her coworker that I was hot. I was unfazed. But before I would hear comments like he was "cute" but never he was hot before. If you feel bored, I could write a visualization of your after LL experience (as I did with Sweatpants) :D
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cool guys, yea,ibelieve it depends on how strong you are both physcally and mentally.
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Yeah, this summer will be amazing for the both of us.
If you feel bored, I could write a visualization of your after LL experience (as I did with Sweatpants) :D
PLEASE DO! I'm excited to hear about it, hahaha :D
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Yeah, this summer will be amazing for the both of us.
Before I couldn't get over my height of 5'6 so always have to wear 2.5inches insole. I had this "can't lose" attitude where I stuff as many things in my shoes as humanly possible before going to a club or meeting a superficial girl. Height was normally the biggest reason for rejection. But as you know, with lift you have to hide it by wearing long boot-cut jeans. For the past 5 years, there wasn't a summer gone by where I could wear shorts freely. It's sucks wearing thick rock & republic jeans in a 30+ degrees hot summer.
But this summer, I can wear shorts (and you too). It's a biggest break a short guy can have.
I can play soccer and basketball but will be a bit slower in movement speed. Short guys are usually quite quick with their short legs on the field. We will have to deal with our lanky limbs. But I think if you put your mind to it, then you can play these sports perfectly again. Yeah, your LL case is actually perfect. Congratulation!
Yeah take it lightly at first. Make sure your bones are consolidated well enough before exerting physical force or lift heavier weight.
Today, a girl said she liked my shorts. And I said thank you. Then as I walked away, she said to her coworker that I was hot. I was unfazed. But before I would hear comments like he was "cute" but never he was hot before. If you feel bored, I could write a visualization of your after LL experience (as I did with Sweatpants) :D
It's true that people call you cute when you are short and hot when you are tall, why is that?! They can also call you handsome though which most people usually tell me that instead of hot or cute.
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I've been called hot at 5'5 before, but it was my first year during the US and I literally locked myself into the gym every day working out.. It snowed outside all the time (Michigan) so I spent most of the time indoors working out. That was the only year in my life I actually had a sixpack and bulging biceps - I wasn't stocky, I was lean too, I checked the calories of everything and paid attention to my diet. So yeah, you can definitely be called hot even when you're short. I hate the word "cute". (But frankly, I got that more often, much more often than hot). No man wants to be called cute, I guess. Harumph.
That's why when I compliment a girl, I say "You're one of the rare kind who is BOTH cute and hot". I try to avoid any unwanted compliments, lol
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Kids and puppy dogs are cute, I'm a grown ass man! - Jamie foxx
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I consider myself pretty much fully recovered. I can walk normally and run almost as fast as I used to be able to, but my balance and agility aren't what they used to be. The longer legs are just harder to move quickly.
I'm never was an athlete, so I don't know about playing sports after LL. Your performance would be reduced, but I'm not sure by how much.
How much is that issue with balance ? Can you do that? http://i.ytimg.com/vi/k7cHobVh9io/hqdefault.jpg
yea, you sure be worse at gymnastics and stretching. Just check who is the best men's in this sports... People who have 150-160 cm. :)
What about bone marrow after they pull out nails? It will regenerated?
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How much is that issue with balance ? Can you do that? http://i.ytimg.com/vi/k7cHobVh9io/hqdefault.jpg
yea, you sure be worse at gymnastics and stretching. Just check who is the best men's in this sports... People who have 150-160 cm. :)
What about bone marrow after they pull out nails? It will regenerated?
It's not a huge issue. I can do that pose. It's more like I'm a little wobblier than I used to be rather than not being able to do something at all.
In adults, there's not a lot of marrow in the tibias and femurs to begin with. I'm not sure if it regenerates or not.
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lionel messi did LL and his one of the richest soccer players so
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lionel messi did LL and his one of the richest soccer players so
not true, are you a troll?
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lionel messi did LL and his one of the richest soccer players so
lol he depends on his legs for his career he would not do anything to diminish his athletic abilities.
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lionel messi did LL and his one of the richest soccer players so
Can we block him? lol just a joke, Anyways you're totally wrong.
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He took growth hormones as a child
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Thanks for the advice. However, I'm quite happy with the single life where I can just concentrate on myself and not others.
"When you say things like like maintaining your balance
I don't understand why ?
Is that to do with muscle strength or just getting used to the extra height "
- it has to do with muscle strength and ankle strength. And because your legs are longer than you used to, you also have to deal with maintaining of a pair of lanky long legs which have been weakened through several surgeries and stretching of the muscle.
However, I lengthened a whole 8cm. If you just seek 4cm, then your result should be different.
What about someone who is doing 5.5 cm tibs and 5.5 cm on femurs to gain 11 cm would they have problems considering that they only did like 5.5 on on separate parts of the legs
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Still no videos.
Guess I have to make them then. :)
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Still no videos.
Guess I have to make them then. :)
Please do; I need the encouragement ;)
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Hi to everyone on the forum :)
I am due for my surgery this year and I will be sure to upload as much content as possible. Hopefully it will be a good experience but even if it's bad I won't hide anything.
Is this thing about losing sxx drive true? That would be an issue for sure :D
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I really encourage you to not go for 12cm and focus on 6 cm on femurs instead.
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I'm breaking my legs for this surgery. Might aswell gain a decent amount. Besides, I fully understand that 6cm is obviously easier but if I didn't then again gaining nothing and not doing the surgery is also safer.
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Hi to everyone on the forum :)
I am due for my surgery this year and I will be sure to upload as much content as possible. Hopefully it will be a good experience but even if it's bad I won't hide anything.
Is this thing about losing sxx drive true? That would be an issue for sure :D
No, I did 6,4 cm on tibias I'm f u c k i n g h o r n i e r than ever.
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That's a relief :D
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Although we havent seen any exact proof that a full recovery is possible, we havent seen anything conclusive that it wouldnt be possible either.
I agree with this point. I would add that the key to healthy recovery is doing lots of exercises before surgery (swimming is especially good) in order to increase flexibility of leg muscles. Because as others have mentioned many times, bone can be cut and lengthened and become as healthy as before, but that is not the case with soft tissues. Their flexibility plays a significant role in gaining back your ability to walk, play sports etc. Physiotherapy while recovering is another crucial part of limb lengthening. If physiotherapy is not done enough, leg pains can disturb patients for longer time, and movement ability may not be on the same level as pre-surgery.
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He did ll?
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My personal answer from having done the max of 8 CM on my femurs and personally meeting and staying in touch with many LL patients is that it varies heavily.
My recovery took a LONG time and I suffered a full fracture of my left leg which was an obvious set back. I know many people who had significantly shorter recovery timeframes.
Once you are out of the crippled phase, you just steadily and slowly inch towards normal functioning. One day your legs just will feel right and natural and eventually you won't even think about LL.
As for sports, personally I've got to advise against LL if you have serious sports interest. Although I might currently be biased since I need to get the irritating hardware out of my leg from my fracture, I can say with confidence that if I had been serious about sports, my running/ movements would be a good deal away from 100%. Its certainly worth asking around, and of course the less you lengthen the more likely a positive outcome is in terms of performance.
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I think many factors play into this. Some being Pre surgery athleticism and flexibility, which bone lengthening, what method, and most importantly imo at what rate. I might be the only professional MMA athlete and collegiate wrestler in this forum. Currently 3 cm into lengthening and chose to slow down from the start at 0.75 mm just so I can keep as much athleticism as I can. Pre OP work involved lots of stretching and plyo workouts. I aim to go for 7.5 to 8 cm femurs and confident I can be back or very close to my Pre OP level of athleticism. At the 3 cm mark I notice no difference or trouble in my walking gait and everything still feels very normal (this is with pool therapy and treadmill assisted).
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You won't recover fully.
You can do sports some days but never like before.
presumably under the assumption that modern medical technology doesn't exist?
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presumably under the assumption that modern medical technology doesn't exist?
Modern medical technology doesn't give doctors godlike powers.
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presumably under the assumption that modern medical technology doesn't exist?
Keep in mind that last we heard from Sweden, he was going to a national full-contact martial arts championship. I would personally consider that fully recovered.
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insane how everyone on limb lengthening forum wants to play competitive sports :D
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Keep in mind that last we heard from Sweden, he was going to a national full-contact martial arts championship. I would personally consider that fully recovered.
You're delusional if you think you're going to get back to baseline.
Leg lengthening doesn't come free, you're sacrificing a degree of functionality for it, especially noticeable in athletic ability.
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For example, if you are a professional runner, you will slow down after surgery. This will vary depending on your extension amount. You will finish the track in 3.5-5 minutes, which you finished in 3 minutes. it depends on the method you have surgery and the amount of lengthening, whether you lengthen the tibia or femur or both.
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Can you return to normal life
Yes.
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insane how everyone on limb lengthening forum wants to play competitive sports :D
yeah, that's not in the cards for most people anyways. the higher you go in any given sport the more your genetics matter anyway.
still, losing athletic ability is a valid cause for concern. you might not be trying to be an olympic sprinter, but what if you're one day in a situation where you have to run for your life?
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Hello to you,
Returning to the subject currently LL is not successful enough. If I did the operation for 4.5 cm, do I find my walk? Will my physical capacity return 2-3 years after surgery? Currently I do not see much positive effect on this operation except the size gain. Well I can't imagine if there are any complications.
thank you in advance for your answers.
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If your doctor is good and careful you will be fine.
But i am unlucky because i trusted the worst doctor for LL back in 2019 and even now i can't walk normally and my life is terrible.
Yasser Elbatrawy is not a doctor,he is a gangster.He destroyed my legs.When i was in Cairo in 2019 i see many many of his patients and all of them had problems.All of them were unhappy with his work.He likes only to take money
My life now is not good,i can't walk like before the surgery and i suffer from depression.
How i would be happy when i feel pain and i am not able to walk normally??
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I did tibia lengthening for + 5 cm and am fully back to normal life. Rods are still inside the bones and I can't sprint as fast as I used to. The trade-off is worth it even if I become stuck with my current sprinting speed after nail removal. I was expecting to get to 70-80 percent of peak performance, and I am at that mark and improving more. If you're real with the surgery and hate being short, go with a good doctor who knows what he's doing, and forget about breaking sprint records.
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I did tibia lengthening for + 5 cm and am fully back to normal life. Rods are still inside the bones and I can't sprint as fast as I used to. The trade-off is worth it even if I become stuck with my current sprinting speed after nail removal. I was expecting to get to 70-80 percent of peak performance, and I am at that mark and improving more. If you're real with the surgery and hate being short, go with a good doctor who knows what he's doing, and forget about breaking sprint records.
Having done femurs a long time ago and tibias recently, I agree with this. Your sprinting will probably never get back to what it was before. It may be a bit harder for you to play intense sports that require regular bouts of sprinting (like basketball, hockey, etc). But for most of us, I think height gain is much more valuable than sprinting speed. The other elements of your conditioning can be largely restored to your pre-surgery levels (with time, hard work, and persistence).
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Having done femurs a long time ago and tibias recently, I agree with this. Your sprinting will probably never get back to what it was before. It may be a bit harder for you to play intense sports that require regular bouts of sprinting (like basketball, hockey, etc). But for most of us, I think height gain is much more valuable than sprinting speed. The other elements of your conditioning can be largely restored to your pre-surgery levels (with time, hard work, and persistence).
Paley often claims that he aims for full recovery of athletic capability with his patients, and "would never sacrifice functionality for extra height gain". Is that just marketing on his part then?
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Paley often claims that he aims for full recovery of athletic capability with his patients, and "would never sacrifice functionality for extra height gain". Is that just marketing on his part then?
I have a lot of respect for Dr. Paley. The content on his website, particularly his "Frequently Asked Questions" documents were the primary information that guided me when I first began the journey. I didn't begin on the forum; I began by googling this topic (height increase surgery) and then reading all the information that Paley provided on his website, to better educate myself.
I will say that, yes, I do disagree with him regarding his recovery prognosis listed on his FAQs page. For one thing, based on my personal experience, I think anyone undergoing CLL will find it very difficult to regain full athletic capacity (concerning sprinting and high-intensity athletic sports). If it is indeed possible, it probably requires a lot of training and determination. I personally did not care so much about this (I am not a professional athlete), so I never trained hard enough to make this happen. But for some, I suppose it is possible, especially the younger guys who get this surgery in their 20's.
Regarding prognosis for return to athletics, Dr. Paley writes- Most patients can start to run one month after being freed to stop using crutches. They can return to other sports after one month after starting to run.
This runs contrary to my experience. I started to run once I was fully consolidated, which occurred at least 2-3 months after I got off crutches. And even then it wasn't running, it was just very slow jogging. It is hard to describe, but your legs just move much slower if you attempt to run after this CLL surgery. You have to train a lot to regain your prior running speed.
As for returning to sports, I guess you can certainly return to sports a month after you start to run. But what does that really mean? It depends on the sport. You will not be able to sprint across a soccer field/ basketball court/ hockey rink at the speed you could before CLL. So yes, you will be able to play those sports, but you will not be able to do that competitively because you will be quite slow at that point in your recovery. Again with time and training, this will improve. You just need to work hard.
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Cyborg has suggested 4cm and 6 cm, tibia and femur are the sweet spot for length vs recovery
Youth helps a lot; stories of 100% recovery of 19 yr olds
Donghoon has also commented on 4cm for tibias as best for recovery of athletic performance.