Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: 188close on November 22, 2015, 09:21:08 AM
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Hi all!
This is Merlion. I'm a pretty young chap at 20, standing at 173 cm. Not really tall or short - people may say, but to me i always see myself at 6 ft. I have body dysmorphic disorder and I have been wearing 9 cm lifts in my boots for 3 years every single day due to my height dysphoria - i think some of you can relate. My idealistic goal would be 10 cm of course, but i read the risk involved lengthening any more than 5 cm. So I will do the best of my ability and accept what i can get. But minimally I'm looking at 7 cm. I'm a risk taker by nature.
I know there's a risk in doing leg lengthening with Dr Sarin. I read on this forum and also on old forum . But... I'm having really bad depression from this. I don't think I can continue living about my height situation and this is all the money I can gather to do my leg lengthening. So please just allow me to share my experience with the world. I hope y'all can support and be with me through my LL journey. It means a lot to me.
My surgery is on the 2nd Dec 2015 at New Delhi. My flight is on the 29th Dec 2015. It's less than a week from now. How am I feeling? Pretty damn scared on what's to come - never been so pussy in my whole life I'm never like that - it's also my very first surgery in my life. And at the same time, I'm excited whenever i visualise the result i will achieve at the end of my journey. I'm pretty weird. Sometimes.
Ok so i'm preparing myself mentally and physically for the surgery now. And because I will be away for a long time, I will be bidding "temporary farewell" to my love ones for the next couple of days. It's my first time spending Christmas, New Year, Chinese New Year and Good Friday alone. Oh boy - it's gonna be a long 4 months in India...
I have a fancy camera. So i will be keeping you all posted with nice pictures, my thoughts and feelings.
If there is anyone, ANYONE, that is doing limb lengthening with Dr Sarin, please, contact me here or at thisismerlion@gmail.com. It will definitely help to have a buddy physically there going through this together with me. Nevertheless, game strong.
God bless.
All loves,
Merlion
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I'm confused, if you know there's a big risk involved with Sarin, why are you going to him? There's tons of good doctors doing LL for the same price.
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Hey! I don't think so man. He only charges me 20,000 USD for everything.
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Sorry, just read you were doing internals.
What internal femur nail/method are you using?
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No worries man. Hydraulic nail (HLN) from Belgium - you can check it out at this web link: http://www.jeannor.be/lengthening-nail.html
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Good luvk hope everything goes well...
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Best of luck with your lengthening man! Hope you'll stick around to share your experience and recovery.
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Hey Merlion!
Good luck with your surgery, these guys in the other hand don't have much to give.......it's more like this nail is still in the testing phrase or guys like you are going to be the guinea pigs for this company......what a huge gamble? :'(
Do you know any person who has use this nail before?
How much experience does your doctor have with this nail?
What are the possible risks he told you regarding using this nail?
The price is unbeatable for an internal nail i can tell you that, but...............looking forward to more positive experience after using this nail.
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I will definitely follow this diary!
Good luck with your journey and hope everything goes well, keep us updated :)
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Honestly they nail looks way too thin. It doesnt look like it could support anything
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Thanks for the well wishes devildog, taller, average and sevens. I will keep this diary updated. ;)
Penguin: I thought i would provide a summary on the HLN method. Crazy 6 and Syekhandone talked about it before. "It is developed by Professor Dr. P. Reynders from UZ Leuven Belgium. The HLN is not full weight bearing. It has small polymide tube that can be injected with sterile fluid (arichis oil) from outside the skin. The pressure of injected fluid will push the nail to lengthen."
Average2tall: I heard Sweden wanted to go back to do this HLN internal femur lengthening. But I don't know whether he did. So at the moment, I do not know anyone going through this. I can't seem to find any diary shared anywhere online. I guess i will be the first guinea pig to share my experience.
Here's some details about the HLN method provided by Sysop. "This nail is new for Dr. Sarin for bilateral to elective leg lengthening, so all prospective patients need to tread very carefully. It does not have the years of testing and usage that other internal nails have. Remember, even the ISKD that was tested and manufactured by OrthoFix, a huge multinational corporation, had problems. I'm not saying this nail will have problems, I'm saying wait until Dr. Sarin has all of his ducks in a row and he is comfortable using it. I'm sure he will have a few patients as test subjects before he offers this to the general public.
You must remember that the doctor is only one part of the equation. Dr. Sarin is an accomplished doctor, but this new nail is not a time tested technology to the best of my knowledge. If you all remember, before he retired from elective LL, Dr. Mitckovic also performed surgeries on many members of this forum. He also developed his own internal nail, and there were so many problems with it that he discontinued its use."
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Wait, so a nail under testing, with Dr. Sarin? :o
You really are a risk taker. But I'm rooting for you. All the best!
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Thanks for posting your experience, Merlion. I'm eager to know more about Dr. Sarin's HLN patients' experiences since it's probably the only internal femur LL method I'll be able to afford. So if I do go for the magic 6'0, I'll probably be following in your footsteps. I'll be following your diary closely! :)
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lol medium don't be one of those 5 10 LL'ers 8)
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Could you post a picture or your current proportions (with your face edited out or covered of course) and then post pics of how your leg to torso ratio change as you continue to lengthen?
Bohemia, a Dr. Monegal internal femur patient, did this and it was really helpful in allowing people to visualize how various amounts of femur lengthening affect how one looks. But it would be great if more people would do the same thing since there's so much variability in body type, starting proportions, etc.
Also, post a pic of yourself wearing your 9CM lifts. It will be interesting to compare that pic to your post-LL pic.
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Merlion!
Is it possible if you could ask Dr.Sarin to do a Q & A special for this nail in our forum?
Trust me if this thing works it will definitely be a game changer, all the competitors will be pressured to lower their nails price.....good news for us i guess 8)
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good luck Merlion!!!
You will reach your goal.
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Thanks for your blessings penguin, medium and yagen! I just got my 4 month medical visa settled yesterday. Flight tickets, vaccinated and medical visa checked. Seems like everything is a good to go! :)
Thanks to KILOKahn for sharing his experience on application of medical visa to India and illness precautions - Flu and typhoid fever vaccines - Anti-malaria, antibiotic for bacterial infections pills. You guys can check out here: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=634.25;wap2.
Taller: Sure I will do it tomorrow. I don't have a mock up though. Can you or do you know of anyone that can help me do my mock up? :o
Average2Tall: Hey buddy, of course. I will get as many relevant questions answered through my course of lengthening. If you guys have any just ask me here or send me a pm. 8)
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Hi. I'd be glad to make a photoshop mockup for you. Just post your current proportion pic and I'll edit it. How much hypothetical height do you want me to add to your femurs?
Also, post a pic of yourself in your 9CM lifts for comparison.
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Taller: Hey man, I'm sorry if the picture is not good enough. I don't know if i need to be half nked or something to show my proportion clearly. I only realised this after i took my photos, edited and uploaded it. I also noticed my pants is a little dark - can't really see my proportion much. I hope this is ok or you can probably do some editing to make it better. :)
My boots give me about 9-10 cm height. I got my style inspiration from vin diesel. He's about 183 cm but he wears i think 10 cm boots too. If you notice in his pictures, he is almost always in boots. Dwayne johnson "the rock" is about 196 cm but when vin diesel stands beside him, he looks about the same height because of his boots.
I'm 173 cm barefooted. I have lost ALOT of weight just for this surgery so i can move around easier - i went from about 75 kg to 57 kg now. I would like 2 mock ups in my femurs section - 8 cm and 10 cm - Thank you so much buddy!
I have no idea why i can't upload the photo here. I put them in dropbox already. You can download the photos here - https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xcohg6nghmg6rzr/AAAHrqLRXiUObn-XMoRWgnVJa?dl=0
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How can your goal be 10 cm´s when the nail can only distract 75mm´s? I wonder if some european Dr. would be willing to use this nail, Sarin sounds so risky.
Whish you all the best,
Greetings
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Alittletooshort: Thank you for the well wishes. I think the nail only recommends to distract 75mm maximum. I read Sweden's experience on it tho not much details were provided but he said it is possible. It's still really new, i think i will see how it goes for myself and share the experience with all here. Cheers! ;)
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Namastee! Meera naam Merlion hai! - "Hi! My name is Merlion!" in Hindi language. I'm typing this update partially high on anaesthesia. So I don't know if i make any sense when i finish typing.
So it's been really good here in New Delhi. Food is good, people are nice and i'm loving the chill weather here. It's really hard to get internet connection here, I finally managed to get my own 4G. Sorry for not updating my diary for awhile, it's really because of the crawling internet speed. I'm now at the Hospital recovering before I move back to the guest house probably on 7th Dec.
Throwback a little
On 29th Nov: I landed in Delhi, settled down at the guest house at Gurgaon. I met 5 patients undergoing limb lengthening with Dr Sarin at the guest house from Vietnam, Sweden, Australia, India and USA. I also met my physiotherapist, he's rly kind. They are real people. They are really really nice. The atmosphere here is great - at least i'm really happy to have friends here. They shared with me their experience with external and internal. Some of them were second times lengthening their limbs. I'm the youngest here. I felt I was treated like their little brother, I guess I'm really lucky.
On 29th Nov - 2nd Dec: I went exploring Taj Mahal, Qutb Minar and all those wonderful forts near Delhi. It's amazing. Definitely a must catch. In the noon, I moved my stuff to the hospital. I met Dr Sarin in person for the first time, he is a friendly nice gentlemen - really. We had a short chat addressing all of my concern and then I checked in and chilled in my ward. I wasn't allowed to eat after 12 am for the surgery.
On 2nd Dec: Really nervous the whole morning. A few doctors came to talk to me about the surgery. And then soon after, I was pushed to the outside of operating theatre from my room. I was panicking and anxious. They put me to sleep at about 11 am and the next thing i know i'm awake waiting to be pushed to my room at 4 pm. No pain at all, aside from the small pain from injecting of stuff like antibiotics and etc through the IV drip. I felt really weak - i was also given oral painkillers and sleeping pills. I don't know how much i took but i just knew i was flying and laughing a lot. I didn't have much trouble sleeping. My eye mask and ear plug helped! Thanks to the advice found on forum. The doctors and hospital staff will come in your room very frequently to clean the room, change bed sheets and check on you. So yup definitely get eye mask and ear plugs!
On 3rd Dec: I woke up. The first thing i asked was ICE CREAM. Weird craving after a night rest from surgery... And then the nurses laughed. Tried wiggling my feet. My left leg is fine. I have some trouble moving my right leg though - it's really numb i can't feel anything. This is when the song "When your legs don't work like they used to before" become super relatable to me. Ok i'm just kidding. The doctor said it's normal and it will come back - i have faith in that. I met my leg lengthening care taker today. He seems cool. 8)
On 4th Dec: Things here are really slow. It's important that you find things to occupy your time. Otherwise it can get boring. Like seriously, boring. I talk to people a lot and then i sleep a lot too. So time is okay for me without internet. But now with internet, i can feel that my days can be a lot more productive. I recommend Airtel 4G portable mobile wifi. It tops the speed here in India.
That's all for now. I will keep you guys updated! Stay tuned. :)
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why can't you move your legs immediately after surgery?
I am curious. Anesthesia is general anyway, when you awaken, shouldn't your legs also awaken?
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I don't know, i guess your muscles or nerves will get affected after the surgery. I just tried and I realised can move my right toes and ankle now - Woohoo! So both of my legs toes and ankles are moveable now.
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They gonna stop injecting me with Fentanyl painkiller tmrw. I will update tmrw on how i feel without the injected Fentanyl. Ok good night guys. :)
//Fentanyl is a synthetic opiate drug which is a powerful painkiller and tranquilliser. First day after my surgery i was given a higher dosage. Subsequently, it's at 2ml/hour.
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Good for you! Best of luck.
Don't do more than 7cm. You will look very weird have those long ass femurs and low knees.
If all goes well I'm interested to join you. Give my best regards to Dr Sarin.
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Congrats for going through with the surgery :)
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Good luck wth dr sarin
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Hey Sweden! Yeah sure come and join us. There's 2 people here doing internal.
Thank you Average2Tall and Tallexpectations.
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I don't know, i guess your muscles or nerves will get affected after the surgery. I just tried and I realised can move my right toes and ankle now - Woohoo! So both of my legs toes and ankles are moveable now.
I was able to move my legs after surgery. I very clearly remember doing bicycle kicks right out of surgery and even tried sitting with my legs folded, and putting my legs behind my head. I'd probably freak out if I wasn't able to do all that stuff. You're brave, Merlion. I wish you the best of luck!
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Namaste! I'm checking in again. You can read my updates below. :)
Updates
On 6th Dec: I am so happy to leave the hospital. I'm going to the guest house! It's a scary thing to have a few man carry you up from the rolling bed to the car. It's about an hour plus ride from the hospital to the guesthouse. I'm lucky again to have a not so bad driver. Else I probably have to hang on to my dear life every minute of the way. The road and traffic here isn't that good especially when you have two broken legs...
The remaining whole of the day i just lied in my bed contemplating my life after the surgery. It's rly boring. You'll be given a rollable chair to move around. Unfortunately, I can't move around the guesthouse yet because my legs are still weak.
I'm starting to feel the discomfort for too much lazing in the bed doing nothing all day. People here say after awhile your muscles will deteriorate if you don't move around much. And it's gonna be rly uncomfortable because you will feel your spine and backache whenever you lie down.
On 7th Dec: I managed to sleep pretty well even without sleeping pills. People here have been given sleeping pills and pain killers tablet - like free flow. It's easy to get addicted. But I am determined to not use them at all unless I really need it. It's bad for your kidney and sleep cycle. I stay away from caffeinated drink as much as possible and move as much as possible to make myself really tired by night 11 - 12 pm so i can have a good sleep.
On 8th Dec: I woke up with a rly pain in my ass. I think it's more from the end of my spine tailbone. They had heat packs to help me soothe the pain. And it's getting on better now. I couldn't help it but i took 1 tiny painkiller tablet. And that's all, i'm not gonna touch it this week already. The max cap is 3 painkiller tablet a day.
On 9th Dec: Yay no more pain in the ass. And it's been officially a week after my surgery and I am ready to do my first lengthening. I am OFFICIALLY 1 mm taller today! Clap for me guys! You will feel a little stretch and weird pain but it goes away after awhile. It should be less-pain for at least the first 3 cm shared by an Australian friend here that is doing the same internal femur. He's almost done with 7 cm.
Ok i thought I would do some Q&A here. Do shoot me any questions if you have any also. It help me kill time as well.
Questions & Answers
1. Who are the personnel that you can attend to?
You will have 1 guy that will be your care taker, 1 guy that will be your physiotherapist, 1 guy that will be your limb lengthener. These 3 guys are shared amongst all the patients here in the guest house. So if you want anything to get done, you should preamp a little waiting time.
Aside from that, you will have a phone in your room. You can dial "9" to the guest house manager to ask for any room cleaning, laundry or in-house food orders or out-house food orders like Mac Donalds.
2. What are some of the essential apps in India?
Bigbasket - online grocery shopping - they do next day morning delivery
Zomato - online food delivery
Foodpanda - online food delivery
Flipkart - online furniture shopping - if you wanna get any extra furniture items, like if you want a better rolling chair etc
3. How do you make your stay is comfortable and enjoyable?
I'm never of sort to believe in material possession. But it really helped at this point of time. You should ideally have your table, pee pot, water bottles, dust bins, sanitiser, mouth wash, TV remote control, internet, games, iPad, laptop, phone, photos of your loved ones, memorable items and rly good musics and books ALL WITHIN YOUR REACH. OK maybe you don't need everything but this is just a list for you to check haha...
Be nice and talk to people a lot. Be real and make friends here. Exchange contacts if you can with everyone so you can give a little morale support and hangout with them just so time pass a little faster and better together. Everyone has a story to share on why they are here.
That's all for now. I will keep you guys updated! Stay tuned. :)
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DoingItForMe: Hey man. Wow you can do that?! I guess maybe it's because of the difference between PRECICE Nail and Hydraulic Nail. The Australian guy that done 7 cm Internal Femur said it's normal and I will gain back my range of motion in a few days.
But I gotta say - We are all brave. This is a crazy surgery. This surgery is hella pushing human limitations. It's risky in any ways. And I only realise that when i went through the operation. Of course, the risk can be probably reduced with better surgeons, better care and better facilities. People may give you their words to make you feel safe but in the end there's nothing personal, it's just business for them.
I guess only you know how well your body is... It's like almost everything you must always use your own judgement and gather feedbacks from those that went through it to evaluate your situation and condition.
For the people that is still considering this surgery, if it's really something you want - go for it but be prepared to brave some storm. It's gonna get fked up sometimes. :P
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For the people that is still considering this surgery, if it's really something you want - go for it but be prepared to brave some storm. It's gonna get fked up sometimes. :P
It's quite the understatement. This surgery is so messed up when you think about it haha.
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Good to hear you're doing well Merlion (nice avatar by the way). How many patients are at the guesthouse with you? Any other HLN patients? Do you have roommates or are the bedrooms single-occupancy? Is it Dr. Sarin's guesthouse just for his patients or is it more like a hotel where non-LLers are staying too?
Hope you continue to do as well as you have been. I couldn't move my legs after the surgery either, so I consider that normal.
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I found this video in Sweden's diary just the other day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MX0wGWfXnk
Dr. Sarin actually looked like he was being extremely careful when he's doing this surgery. I honestly don't think he's as bad as everyone makes him out to be.
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Aaaaaahh, look at my legs ;D
I still have all the junk in my bones. Those lower screws hurt like hell if I accidentally hit them.
It'll be pure torture taking everything out.
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UPDATE!! How's it going?? Pictures!! Bring them here.
I think I want to do another 4/5cm on my femurs.
Maybe I could get my X-legs fixed somehow too? If I need to rebreak my tibias then so be it.
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I'm amazed Dr. Sarin didn't correct the X-legs problem. did you ever ask him about fixing it?
But, yes, you can fix X-legs. It requires another surgery. I think they can do it without breaking the tibia and without losing. They attach the device to the exact location where the x-leg is and they stretch it back out.
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Aaaaaahh, look at my legs ;D
I still have all the junk in my bones. Those lower screws hurt like hell if I accidentally hit them.
It'll be pure torture taking everything out.
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UPDATE!! How's it going?? Pictures!! Bring them here.
I think I want to do another 4/5cm on my femurs.
Maybe I could get my X-legs fixed somehow too? If I need to rebreak my tibias then so be it.
Didn't you always say your x legs were caused by a muscle imbalance and not the bone itself. What changed?
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Didn't you always say your x legs were caused by a muscle imbalance and not the bone itself. What changed?
I still somehow think this bc I haven't gained back my muscles on my thighs. It is my femurs that are twisted, nothing else. My tibias are straight.
My femurs were so extreme twisted right after frame removal that I couldn't cycle on the bike bc my knees were in the way.
That got corrected after I built some more muscles back on my thighs. I need way more to even get back half of what I had before my LL.
I broke my foot this year and I haven't been able to run for 8 months now. I gained lots of weight to the point I almost feel repulsed by myself. Fat upper body and long skinny chicken legs.
It's embarrassing.
I ran a little bit today so it feels better now but far from good. I still need tramadol to make it through a day at the gym and running track.
Life sucks - but at least I'm average tall now(slightly below) and in many situations I can really enjoy my new height.
I started a new class in my training and I have never felt this much respected before. Hard to compare though since I've always focused on my own training but it's still there and my class has outgrown all other in membership so I must be doing something right - even though I can barely walk. =)
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Hello Sweden,
Sorry for the pain you are going through.....hope in time things will get better or you get a doctor to correct your current situation.
Being an athlete i took a lot of interest in you and i think you can be more helpful to the athletic LLC if we utilize the data you have been providing. Do you think lengthening at least 4cm internal femur will give back at least 90 percent of athleticism back? Assume you did that....perhaps 4/5cm each segment to get a total of 9/10cm gain. The reason im asking this is apart from being in the showbiz industry(my boring deskjob) i do alot of mountaineering and just a few weeks ago i helped a certain company(!!!) with their marketing campaign and since they were so impressed with the job they offered me half price to climb Mt. Everest 2017/2018 season......now that was on my bucket list as is doing Limb lengthening and i was wondering if adding 4/5cm will affect my ascent.
Congrats on your new class....don't give up, hold on to those few positive moments you are lucky to experience and ignore the rest, i sent you a PM some weeks ago...guess you are busy. :D
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DoingItForMe: Haha yeah it is an understatement.
Medium: Haha thank you. Here's to answer your questions.
1. How many patients are at the guest house with you?
There are in total 10 at the moment staying at the guest house with me.
2. Any other HLN patients?
1 Australian guy went to the hospital today to remove the HLN pump, he has completed 7 cm on femur. He will be on crutches soon - the nail is full weight bearing. So far there is about 20-25 patients that have done this HLN internal lengthening. It is getting patented now and it will be launching world wide. Dr Sarin wants to give the world affordable and quality lengthening. He wants to make this popular.
3. Do you have roommates or are the bedrooms single-occupancy?
I get a single room for myself. You can visit people near your door easily with the wheeled chair.
4. Is it Dr. Sarin's guesthouse just for his patients or is it more like a hotel where non-LLers are staying too?
It's like Dr Sarin's guesthouse. Only LLers or those correcting their legs are staying here.
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Namaste! Here checking in again.
Updates
On 11th Dec: Time of my life. For someone that can endure pain, I never felt so much sharp sudden pain before. I had my first 15 minutes physio session. It hurts so bad I almost died. The whole floor heard my wimpy shoutings. You can literally faint from this - at least for the first few sessions. It's gonna hurt. The best part is physio is Monday to Saturday - YAY! ::)
On 12th Dec: I'm one day away from half a cm taller. But i'm pretty sure i'm already passed that I can feel it. I'm gonna have my x ray in 3 - 5 days.
On 13th Dec: My knees are starting to hurt a little. A discomfort kinda pain. I was told if you're into this surgery at every point of the time, you should expect pain. It never goes away. If it did, something new will come. Just getting use to it. ;D
On 14th Dec: The discomfort pain gave me trouble sleeping the whole night. It was my first bad night not being able to sleep. Very unpleasant feeling but i'm gonna still have to put up with this. I took one Ultracet tablet - doesn't seem to work at all. :o
Ok i will try to upload some photos here. Keep the questions coming. Stay tuned! :)
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Sounds like things are going great for you and every other person there, Merlion! Feeling that half a centimetre taller makes a great difference already! :)
Keep me, and all of us all posted! :D
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I wonder if/when this method will come to europe. Do you know more about this?
I think I´d lack the guts to do this surgery in inda.
Will you post some pictures in thr future?
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Haven't heard from Merlion in a while. Hope he is okay!
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How are you man? I hope everything is fine..
Can you post some proportion photos please?
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Hey everyone! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! :o How have you guys been? Sorry I've not been updating for awhile. I received quite a handful of private emails and i appreciate the concern. I'm doing very well. :)
GOOD AND BAD NEWS
Good news first... :D
Just a quick update on how's things going here: it's all VERY good for me. I mean complications are prone to happen, and so far i'm happy that i have really minimal complications and it's fixed within a 2-3 days. I'm now at 5 cm already. I will get my lengthening device removed and start walking on walkers in another month. I picked up a new temporary hobby - gaming and movie crazing - time flew by too quickly. YESMAN! ;D
Bad news is... I'm gonna stop updating my blog publicly. Reason is that I wanna move on and keep this part of my life private, I think I might have gave too much information. BUT WAIT. I would still like to help those that want to find out more about this method. For those of you that still have questions about this Hydraulic Lengthening Nail (HLN) method, write me an email at thisismerlion@gmail.com or give me a private message here and like always, i will get back to you as soon as I can and with the best answer I can get.
You guys have been a great community for support. Here's to a new life and new year! Cheers to 2016. Merlion signing off.
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I have to ask quickly: would you ever mind posting pics or x-rays etc? I'm only asking not to disrespect you by any means, but this is more about the credibility of Sarin considering his...um..history...
Cheers
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Thanks for posting your experience, Merlion. I'm eager to know more about Dr. Sarin's HLN patients' experiences since it's probably the only internal femur LL method I'll be able to afford. So if I do go for the magic 6'0, I'll probably be following in your footsteps. I'll be following your diary closely! :)
Medium drink of water why are you being a hypocrite
You used to be totally against me when i suggested sarin was a good option .
You told me he butchered your friend and that he was unprofessional .............
Now you want to go to him ???
Wow dude maybe you should of just believed me when Said sarin was a good option
Still thats very hypocritical .
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Merlion, congratulations for induring such an intense procedure and i hope you get the satisfaction you wanted.
I'm concerned with this procedure since it's very unpredictable and recently our top guys we relied on updating us [not sales personel :-X] have decided to hang the gloves.
Are the doctors pressuring you guys to keep the negative updates to the minimum or what? Many people here can't afford top docs like Guichet and Paley who are considered somehow safer so this pressures us to consider trying other alternatives [not very wise] like the HNL.
This procedure can mess you up if things don't go as planned and since the CLL industy is rather in its infancy stage, maybe we need to come up with smart approach towards this e.g Visual and audio interviews of the top doctors, visual procedure of the PT sessions, visual updates of complications e.t.c
The doctors will be forced to be more open about this procedure and they won't risk to damage their reputations by giving us fake facts as this leave them open for criticism from their fellow colleague.
This is way better than relying on strangers yet paying alot of money just to risk your mobility and other serious longterm complications.
Props to the few who have been outspoken and committed to help others in need.
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Would have been nice if there were pictures from the start of this diary. Just my opinion that pictures would have given this diary more credibility. $20,000 for an internal lengthening sounds like a really good deal, I hope not too good to be true.
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Still missing those pictures.
Not good.
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Complications???
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Medium drink of water why are you being a hypocrite
You used to be totally against me when i suggested sarin was a good option .
You told me he butchered your friend and that he was unprofessional .............
Now you want to go to him ???
Wow dude maybe you should of just believed me when Said sarin was a good option
Still thats very hypocritical .
I second u bro. Im starting to think this forum is a pessimistic forum but they say they say facts and also they used to say old forum used to ban people but even this forum does that without giving an explanation without doing anything wrong.
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It's 2016 and people are still going to Dr. Sarin for LL. LOL!
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Has anyone been able to get in touch with Merlion? Does anyone know how he's doing? I've emailed him to no avail.
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He got screwed with Sarin i guess, the technology was also in trial.
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I wonder what goes through a person's mind when choosing a doctor?
Let's see.. shady doctor with commercial ties to old forum. Check.
Unproven internal nail. Check.
Third world country. Check.
Should be ok..No problem!
That said.. really hope Merlion is consolidated and moved on with his life.
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Haha hi guys! :)
I hope all is well. I'm standing and walking on crutches now at about 6ft tall. As expected i'm gonna come back to lots of criticism on why I choose Dr Sarin in the first - but i already gave my genuine answer to these questions on my earlier post, I am not gonna repeat. Just here to update that all is well - no i didnt get screwed by Dr Sarin, no i didn't get butchered and yes i'm still alive. It's been a journey, but i'm sure it will be soon just be a distanced memory. I have no complications now and i'm walking already. Feels real good in the confidence boost, i'm really contented with my height now. Lucky maybe? Your choice to make.
Just to share this is the most recent article about Dr Sarin - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/09/i-have-to-be-taller-the-unregulated-world-of-indias-limb-lengthening-industry.
Ok i will answer any questions if you are keen or interested just email me directly to thisismerlion@gmail.com. Peace out guys. ;D
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Nice article mate !
Best of luck !!
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Haha hi guys! :)
I hope all is well. I'm standing and walking on crutches now at about 6ft tall. As expected i'm gonna come back to lots of criticism on why I choose Dr Sarin in the first - but i already gave my genuine answer to these questions on my earlier post, I am not gonna repeat. Just here to update that all is well - no i didnt get screwed by Dr Sarin, no i didn't get butchered and yes i'm still alive. It's been a journey, but i'm sure it will be soon just be a distanced memory. I have no complications now and i'm walking already. Feels real good in the confidence boost, i'm really contented with my height now. Lucky maybe? Your choice to make.
Just to share this is the most recent article about Dr Sarin - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/may/09/i-have-to-be-taller-the-unregulated-world-of-indias-limb-lengthening-industry.
Ok i will answer any questions if you are keen or interested just email me directly to thisismerlion@gmail.com. Peace out guys. ;D
I feel happy with you that you are doing well
It would be better if you gave us more evidences not only words to enlightjen all of us
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I concur. I'm glad you're healthy and doing well Merlion. Could you possibly post some images of the device(s) and the current state of your legs? Images of the living conditions would be really helpful as well. Were there any complications for any patients that you are aware of using this nail?
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I'm beginning to doubt the legitimacy of this diary. I've tried to contact Merlion several times via email using the address that he provided. There hasn't been a response. Even contacting him here seems delayed. There hasn't been any pictures either. Has anyone been able to contact Merlion?
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I'm beginning to doubt the legitimacy of this diary.
Same here. No photos, and some weird statements that sound like advertisements.
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The Belgians did him!
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this seems fake indeed
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About expectations
I'm starting to not feel appreciated for my sharing. I'm not here to please anyone. And I don't get paid doing this... I'm just a guy that paid peanuts for an internal lengthening ($15k USD compared to 60-100k USD) and achieved what i wanted. I'm here genuinely to share my experience. It's RIDICULOUS for people to think this is an advertisement?! >:( Maybe i should start asking to be paid for this haha! ::)
I will take awhile to reply my email, because I do have a life and this email i created is not my official email that i'm constantly on and checking NEITHER is this forum account. I had never not reply an email. I will reply, but, it will take time. Please don't expect me to be on it actively. :-\
About my diary
I also have my reasons not to share any pictures, i already mentioned earlier. The reason i started this diary is because I just wanted a community that would understand how I feel and what i went through. It's a hell of a journey that's for sure. I am insecure in sharing photos (psh even if it's just legs and proportion crap) because i REALLY want what i do to remain discreet and not known by anyone. I wrote it because I could. ;D
That's all!
If you wish to seek a faster reply, you can try whatsapping Dr Sarin directly with his mobile phone at +91 98100 01907. Do note that he is also busy as he has many patients that he is operating daily. Dr Sarin also recently shared this recording with CNC of him, i thought i could just share it with you guys.. IT'S NOT AN ADVERTISEMENT FOR GOD SAKE. LISTEN TO IT IF YOU WANT, I DON'T CARE I'M JUST SHARING.
Here: http://www.cbc.ca/player/play/2688581919
You won't hear from me for awhile now.. ;D
Wanna keep in contact? Direct message or private email me, I can let you know how i'm doing. I'm in constant contact with a few friends I made on this forum. I had never not reply an email. But my reply will take time... Peace out. ;)
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How did you lengthen 10cm's with a device that's only capable of distracting 75mm? How come you do so well compared to others who lenghened even less with top notch Doc's like paley?
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Alittleshort: You seem to be asking a lot of questions with no follow up actions... I'm starting to think whether you're genuinely interested in this method of lengthening or you're just one of those guy that is trying to put Dr Sarin's reputation down. Are you working for Dr Paley? ;D
But here's to answering your question, again. ::)
To be exact i did approx 9 cm not 10 i just said i was 6ft because i'm close.
This internal nail stated that it is only capable of distracting 75 mm because that's the upper safe limit people should lengthen and was advise to lengthen by Dr Sarin. It's not all easy for me, one flaw in this device is that you have no way to tell accurately how much you lengthened, so i have to constantly use my judgement and feelings to match both leg to correct lengths. Maybe this can be considered "hardship". Ok maybe it's not that bad, they do have a marking like half a turn is 1 mm lengthened, but this is not calibrated in every devices it may vary a little hence u need to use a bit of your judgement. However, xray is constantly taken to make sure your leg length is of equal length and it's rly cheap for each xray and it's already covered in the price package so there's nothing to worry. Also, already mentioned, I took the risk to do more than that and probably because i'm young and a little lucky i got away with it. There was a point in time i accidentally lengthened too fast, was scolded, couldn't feel my right leg for a few days. But i regained my feeling after i rest for 3 days. Maybe that can be considered "complications" but i see it very minor and common.
There are people doing even BETTER than me. There's a patient who is from Japan 18 years old he came in a month later than me and was done when i was. Now he is already walking without crutches and gaining back muscles rapidly but with a lil help of steroids. He did 9 cm on tibia externally. I'm amazed. The other patients and I was thinking that he for sure will have complications due to fast lengthening but we were wrong. My only conclusion from my personal experience is that we have to take into consideration of nerve healing, nerve healing capability is different on individuals. I find taking large amount of vitamin C and gluthathione and coupled with my young age, healing abilities, flexibility, strength and ability to endure pain helped me a lot when i was lengthening. I think it might be the same case for the guy he was really agile and flexible and also he probably heal way faster than me. There are also of course patients that will be doing all sort of funny things that they're not advised to like smoking, lengthening too much a day, trying to stand when their soft calluses has not turned hard, not taking calcium supplements after lengthening pump removal to enhance bone regeneration and worst skipping physiotheraphy or not even taking physiotheraphy seriously. All of which contributes to a higher risk of complications and it should be avoided at all cost. This is what i feel can be the reason based on only my experience.
I really wonder how people come about to giving Drs like Paley their "top notch" title. It's all perception of a brand. Just because something is priced higher, doesn't necessarily means that other brands can't get the job done. Maybe for the premium price brand the comfort is better, risk is lower, communication is easier and they give you more assurance but that does not take away any means of other more affordable brands being able to STILL get the job done. If i have the money, of course i would go for that, but truth be told, not everyone sees the value in paying 3 to 4 times more for all these extra perks or there's also people like me that simply can't afford a more expensive brand. 8)
Thanks for the question.
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Merlion hope you are well and fine as you said!
One thing which is bothering me is this forum is mainly for helping CLL candidates rather than marketing doctors or devices.
You voluntarily started a thread and got us engaged about your procedure and the new device you were willing to try then post LL you suddenly went quiet but yet assured us everything is ok!
Then you emerged after the whispering started and even gave us a link to the Sarin's documentary which we all appreciate!
But why getting all emotional while you are the one acting all suspicious with us? The device is new, they have crappy website with limited information, no other sources to validate their device apart from their crappy website, no other sources to validate your CLL success using device apart from your swearing and threats to leave LL Forum if we keep asking about the detailed info regarding your procedure!
RED FAT FLAG IMHO!
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Average2tall: Wow. Has my thread become a roasting platform? Roasted merlion doesn't smell or taste good imo. Do you find this very fun and entertaining to do? I don't know if i should continue spending my time to even reply to people like you.
But you are accusing me of way too many things so let's be clear here, 3 things. This is about my reputation as Merlion not even Dr Sarin's...
First, i did not swear at all. Neither did i state i'm leaving this LL forum. You can read from all my replies it is in rather polite and friendly tone... And i wonder where do you even read that i'm threatening to leave the forum.
Secondly, my motivation to start this diary has been mentioned many times which is just to share this journey with the world and have a supportive community of people that will understand what i go through. I don't see myself here "assuring" people that LL is safe! Nor am I on a mission to prove this new method by Dr Sarin's. In fact, in one of my post earlier, i even wrote about the huge risk involved in LL no matter which doctor you go and only crazy serious people will do it. And I feel my sharing is legit even after my post LL surgery as i am constantly sharing my own thoughts and feelings frequently in every possible aspect of LL as detailed as possible! So sad that i have to say this myself to reinstill this fact. :'(
Such an insult... What have you contributed in this forum? Intellectual comments like these? Bravo ::)
Thirdly, i was seriously in the toilet doing my business and replying using my phone how can i be even emotional? I don't get how sharing about my photos of proportions, nail in my thigh and scars from surgery help enhance the knowledge of this procedure. What details are you exactly sorting after for your genuine help to benefit this community? You want my selfie? ;D
Come on... You have been around for long, if you are really serious about getting your surgery or next surgery done, go with whichever doctor with your research and just do it already. And if you have done the surgey and you genuinely want to contribute to this community, you can contribute your meaningful experience as comments rather than such comments.. You must be also older than me, you should know better.
P.S: i will stick that red fat flag up your butt IMHO! ;D
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Average2tall: Wow. Has my thread become a roasting platform? Roasted merlion doesn't smell or taste good imo. Do you find this very fun and entertaining to do? I don't know if i should continue spending my time to even reply to people like you. (Not funny at all hence my concern about the legibility of your information, we are talking about peoples lives here so honestly i don't care if you are offended or what not! )
But you are accusing me of way too many things so let's be clear here, 3 things. This is about my reputation as Merlion not even Dr Sarin's...(Who is Merlion? A patient? Sales man? A doctor? A device maker? A pretty young chap at 20 years of age?)
First, i did not swear at all. Neither did i state i'm leaving this LL forum. You can read from all my replies it is in rather polite and friendly tone... And i wonder where do you even read that i'm threatening to leave the forum. ( Bad news is... I'm gonna stop updating my blog publicly. Reason is that I wanna move on and keep this part of my life private, I think I might have gave too much information. BUT WAIT. I would still like to help those that want to find out more about this method. For those of you that still have questions about this Hydraulic Lengthening Nail (HLN) method, write me an email at thisismerlion@gmail.com or give me a private message here and like always, i will get back to you as soon as I can and with the best answer I can get.
You guys have been a great community for support. Here's to a new life and new year! Cheers to 2016. Merlion signing off.
I will take awhile to reply my email, because I do have a life and this email i created is not my official email that i'm constantly on and checking NEITHER is this forum account. I had never not reply an email. I will reply, but, it will take time. Please don't expect me to be on it actively.
You won't hear from me for awhile now.. ;D
Wanna keep in contact? Direct message or private email me, I can let you know how i'm doing. I'm in constant contact with a few friends I made on this forum. I had never not reply an email. But my reply will take time... Peace out.)
Secondly, my motivation to start this diary has been mentioned many times which is just to share this journey with the world and have a supportive community of people that will understand what i go through. I don't see myself here "assuring" people that LL is safe! Nor am I on a mission to prove this new method by Dr Sarin's. In fact, in one of my post earlier, i even wrote about the huge risk involved in LL no matter which doctor you go and only crazy serious people will do it. And I feel my sharing is legit even after my post LL surgery as i am constantly sharing my own thoughts and feelings frequently in every possible aspect of LL as detailed as possible! So sad that i have to say this myself to reinstill this fact. :'(
Such an insult... What have you contributed in this forum? Intellectual comments like these? Bravo ::)
( The forum doesn't force us to share, especially misleading info.....it's better to shut the fk up and observe like the rest of us, and that's if you are truly a poor young boy as you stated )
Thirdly, i was seriously in the toilet doing my business and replying using my phone how can i be even emotional? I don't get how sharing about my photos of proportions, nail in my thigh and scars from surgery help enhance the knowledge of this procedure. What details are you exactly sorting after for your genuine help to benefit this community? You want my selfie? ;D ( Taller: Hey man, I'm sorry if the picture is not good enough. I don't know if i need to be half nked or something to show my proportion clearly. I only realised this after i took my photos, edited and uploaded it. I also noticed my pants is a little dark - can't really see my proportion much. I hope this is ok or you can probably do some editing to make it better. :) - Looks like someone lost motivation to share his proportions all over sudden :o )
Come on... You have been around for long, if you are really serious about getting your surgery or next surgery done, go with whichever doctor with your research and just do it already. And if you have done the surgey and you genuinely want to contribute to this community, you can contribute your meaningful experience as comments rather than such comments.. You must be also older than me, you should know better. ( Serious people take their time to figure out and evade misleading information such as this.........why so keen on protecting MERLION'S PRIDE yet not willing to share like other's? Are you sorta special or something? )
P.S: i will stick that red fat flag up your butt IMHO! ;D ( Classic! You know you can't do that! ::))
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Ok ok you win i clap for you ::) Just don't post here on my thread already please :'(
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Or what? This is LL Forum, any one can post anywhere as long as the input is constructive to the community rather than bogus claims for things which you are not willing to prove but rather scream about it. Some people on the forum have even tried to contact you but failed, including me! I think you are not what you are claiming to be, i think you are here to prey on desperate individuals......so correct me and the rest who rather find your thread dodgy, give us proof!
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I concur with Average2Tall. Given the track record of several fake diaries, I don't find fault in questioning the legitimacy of this diary. Please understand that the information provided on this forum is used to choose the right doctor and right LL method. So any false information could be devastating and may result in irreversible damage to someone's life.
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Some people are so good making up even accusing false claims with so much confidence... Well i won't bother trying to "convince" these idiots. Believe what you want.
By far my conscience is clear, i answer all questions sent to me so far i never not reply to anyone. It will just take time. I will help those that want to be help and get their surgery done with any doctor and not cowards going around forum crying and accusing out of every journal. If you have any questions, do pm me or email me at thisismerlion@gmail.com.
Cheers,
Merlion ;)
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Some people are so good making crap up even accusing false claims with so much confidence... Well i won't bother trying to "convince" these idiots. Believe what you want.
With all respect, Merlion, but you have to understand that a lot of people very wary when it comes to Dr. Sarin because of certain things that happened in the past on the old forum.
I think nobody here wants to attack you personally, people are just scared that something like that happens again but on the other side want to believe that this whole procedure (which sounds too good to be true for that price) is safe and a real thing.
Also, it's a normal way of handling things in these thread that people post at least their x-rays if not even a proportions pic or even a short walking video or something like that.
Without that, there is apart from some advertisement for a new method of LL done by the most criticized DR in LL not that much information for anybody reading this.
So again, not attacking you, but just want to explain why people are a little bit wary.
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So far i don't trust any crap you have written about yourself, and the more you get poetic about this the more i stand my ground that you are a fraud. An honest fella like you tried to sell us wouldn't make a big deal of a rather usual conduct in LL Forum. So you can keep yapping or give us solid evidence :D
Note: For any of the members who happen to pass by this post, it's a very risky move to use untested and undocumented devices in an already high risk CLL procedure and especially just from reading a thread which wants you trust their rather honest review or story as they want to put it.
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I second this. It sounded way too good to be true. There were no photos. At least merlion could have taken a video of him lengthening with the "new break through" device but "he doesnt want to reveal identity". It's your legs nobody will know who you are from your legs, I believe this is a FAKE diary.
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This guy has done around 7.5cm using the HLN internal nail, would like an update as he has any another diary for tibias last year with sarin aswell.
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I would also like to know how you are, how is recovery going?
I hope you're well :)
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I would also like to know how you are, how is recovery going?
4cms: There's a possibility he got sick of the negative responses towards the end of the diary and may not come back or it really could be a fake but it seems real to me.
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After seeing this guys video, I can confirm this was a real Diary and wow Does he look good. He even came back and done tibias aswell.
I definitely got sick of the negative stupid comments by people here, There is still however some nice people here.