Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Doctors => Topic started by: KiloKAHN on January 29, 2016, 07:26:22 PM
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Doctor information and response from Dr Jamal A. Nemer, located in Kiev, Ukraine. Contact for specific information and latest updates.
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1) How many patients have you operated for cosmetic limb lengthening so far and how many patients do you operate yearly on average?
I have over 25 years of experience in this field and I use the technique of intraosseous osteosynthesis, applying driving devices for femurs (hips) and tibias (shanks) using the latest Jamal Nail (JN) developed from the Bliskinov Nail and Dragan-Bliskinov Nail. Limb lengthening programs (pairwise lengthening) by internal methods provide a solution for patient’s social-adaptive problems (relative stunting). The nails have been implemented in over 90 patients by Jamal Abu Nemer M.D., Ph.D. The numbers of patients year to year greatly vary, but recently it has been around 12 a year.
2) What is the estimated total cost?
Bi-lateral femur lengthening with 3 months room & board starts from $46,500 USD.
Bi-lateral tibia lengthening with 3 months room & board starts from $52,000 USD.
The prices shown include 3 months stay at the recovery center which includes all meals, transportation, medication, assistance and any complications that will need additional surgery. Our pricing is designed to be clear and allow the patient to not worry about finance throughout the lengthening period.
Prices may vary depending on the bespoken program for each patient. A Skype or in person consultation will be provided to prospective patients to diagnose and provide a more accurate estimate of the costs and requirements before surgery.
3) What kind of physical therapy is assigned to the patient at your center?
Since the Jamal Nail is fully weight bearing, this allows the patient to move freely with crutches. I promote my patients to stay active on a stationary bike, stand for brief periods throughout the day on a walker, and practice moving on crutches. A physiotherapist is also assigned to each patient so muscle flexibility and strength is thoroughly maintained.
Walking (on crutches) is vital for a quick recovery. The nails are fully weight bearing so it can handle normal daily activities such as walking, light yoga, and general activities to remain independent that require short walking distances. My opinion is to have a fun activity each day socialising and taking part in activities such as cooking with friends and going on short trips with a driver to enjoy fresh air and keep spirits high. This is just as much a psychological recovery as a physical one.
4) What are your most important priorities for your patients?
My most important priority is for my patients to be: safe and minimize risk as much as possible; keep scars to an absolute minimum; and keep the comfort and well-being of the patient for fast regeneration and recovery.
5) What is the difference between the Bliskinov Nail and the Jamal Nail?
Dr Bliskinov and I have always developed the internal nail for strength and comfort. My Jamal nail reduces the incision sight of the hip area, and has a smaller construction to make the internal device much more comfortable in the hip area but at the same time being more stable.
6) How often will you follow up with patients during lengthening?
I visit very regularly – almost every day, and make sure everything is in the best condition.
7) What maximum amount of lengthening do you recommend per segment, regarding patient safety? What is the daily rate of lengthening?
Optimum value of the lengthening: 6.5-7 cm for femurs and 4.5-5 cm for tibias. Maximum "hard" program: 10-11 cm for femurs and 6-7 cm for tibias. There is a big resistance of Achilles tendon after 4.5-5 cm of tibia lengthening and there is a big resistance of the hip muscles after 6 - 7 cm of femurs lengthening.
8 ) How fast can patients return to normal life (walking without support)?
The period of basic recovery after the lengthening (lasts for 6.5-7 months after the devices were disconnected). The period is characterized with gradual restoration of the stretched muscles functions and regaining the stereotype of walking. At this point, bone regenerative process reaches the level which makes it possible to expose the legs to some load (forces) without using any outer supports (such as crutches, walking stick). At the beginning of this period, the patient can drive a car.
Toward the end of the period, the patient can resume his/her work (study) if it does not involve putting excessive forces (load) on the patient’s legs. The period of sufficient recovery is from 7 months up to 14-15 months from the moment of disconnecting the devices. The period is characterized with further bone consolidation and restoration of muscle functions to the condition which would allow to remove the devices from the bones and expose the legs to usual (not sports training) load (forces).
Contact Information:
Website
http://www.orthopedicjamal.com/
E-Mail
OrthopedicJamal@gmail.com
Office Address
Solomianska Street, 11A,
Kiev, 03110,
Ukraine
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Wow. Actually sounds good... Phenomenal prices. The fact that everything is included is definitely a load off of anyone's mind.. The best part is the weight bearing aspect.
Are there any diaries with Jamal?
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I think there are four on the old forum. 5 if you count one who did it with Dr Dragan and Dr Jamal in 2007.
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I think there are four on the old forum. 5 if you count one who did it with Dr Dragan and Dr Jamal in 2007.
Okay. I dont want to join the old forum. 1 forum is enough for me haha.. In a nutshell, do you recall the overall satisfaction of his patients?
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Okay. I dont want to join the old forum. 1 forum is enough for me haha.. In a nutshell, do you recall the overall satisfaction of his patients?
Some people struggled with recovery or a non-union (Emmanuel was his name if I remember correctly). I read that it has something to do with the materials used to produce the nail, apparently they slow down the bone growth.
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Thank you for the update, KiloKAHN!
Dear Alittletooshort, regarding the non-union situation, I would invite all my former patients to write candidly about their experience and recovery. In the case of Emmanuel, his recovery was indeed slow, however it was was not considered non-union in any way. Although, because I care about my patients mentality and psychological recovery also, I provided a free bone graft to ease any doubts about regeneration. I promise all my patients my best personal care, and at no extra cost.
Dear Deads, thank you for commenting on my prices which I think is important. Since I have now my own independent establishment, I am in much more control over patient experience quality as I want my patients to all have the best experience.
One of my goals is to make sure external limb lengthening is a thing of the past as I feel it is antiquated technology causing unnecessary burdens on the patients (especially external LL for femurs causes far too much suffering). I would invite members to open up a discussion about if my price of 46,500 USD for internal limb that includes 3 month room and board, makes external lengthening obsolete for patients with money concerns?
Best regards,
Dr Jamal A. Nemer
edit: repeated website url/email
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One of my goals is to make sure external limb lengthening is a thing of the past as I feel it is antiquated technology causing unnecessary burdens on the patients (especially external LL for femurs causes far too much suffering). I would invite members to open up a discussion about if my price of 46,500 USD for internal limb that includes 3 month room and board, makes external lengthening obsolete for patients with money concerns?
In my opinion no.
Whilst you are offering good rates in comparison to other internal LL options, $46,500/ £32,000ish is still a hell of a lot to pay in real terms. Average UK wage is around £26,500 and for younger people (20s - early 30s which I get the impression is the main demographic for LL) that wage will be less - doesn't include tax either. It's a hell of a monetary commitment which is why you have people making questionable choices in regards to their destination for surgery. If someone has money concerns but is dead set on this I would imagine external would always be the more attractive option unless there was a crazy large crash for the price of internals.
I also have a question about point 8.
You say work/ study can be resumed towards the end of the period of basic recovery, providing there were no complications, what is the reason this can not be achieved sooner?
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Is Doctor Jamal honest? Some people say one of his patients here Purrfection was a fake. Is that true?
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Yes, he is honest, but price will raise the coming years, so is not very affordable. You can see, 3 years before it was like 38 k usd and now 46 k usd, it has raised a lot.
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Sweden said he doesn't let you meet other patients, so I am not sure.
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I read two of his patients had problems with bone healing, is very strange, I mean is a possible complication but two that almost did the surgery at the same time??? Maybe full-weight-bearing is not good during bone growth or can be just a coincidence, at this point I hardly believe in coincidences.
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Bone healing depends on the surgeon and the device but also on the patient. I don't know who is to be blamed in these cases.
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It's the fake diary issue which worries me
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Bone healing depends on the surgeon and the device but also on the patient. I don't know who is to be blamed in these cases.
Doing my homework
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=1140.0
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This surgeon seems a good choice for me. I would like to have LL in Europe. Would you recommend him? 46k is not very expensive since it includes accomodation, all meals, transportation, medication, assistance and any complications that will need additional surgery. He seems to care about his patients.
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I would recommend you saving more money and go for precice2 with Birkholtz or Parihar.
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I can not disagree with onemorefoot. It's your health, man. There are, as stated by KiloKAHN, only 4 diaries regarding dr. Jamal, and with some kind of problems as above indicated. If the numbers of diaries were higher and with good results, it would be an option to evaluate.
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Yes, there are problems with bone healing with most of them, genetics??? Hmmm. Make a choice not for price if not for safety.
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Safety is always the most important thing, even if it hurts us in the wallet.
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Dr Jamal is my best internal option money-wise but if you think he isn't good enough... I will think twice.
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Why does nobody update information about this doctor?
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I just joined and posted about my experience in the patient diaries section. I thought I would add a quick note here too.
My experience of LL was with Dr Jamal, so I can only speak of his method and clinic. I was very fortunate to have an excellent result. But I will say this. LL is no walk in the park. The doctor and LL method is important of course, but it is up to the patient to do all the hard work. Some people seem to think that they will do their research, settle on a doctor, method and budget, then relax and let the doctor/medical team do all the rest!
As I have stressed previously, the doctor will operate on you. The method has to be solid, tried and tested, but the motivation to grow, heal, recover, get on with life has to come from you. Good fiet, daily exercises, stretching, keeping your spirits up and the end result in mind is what will get you there.
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All right everyone. Former patient of Dr Jamal here. Thought I'd post a quick photo here too. Dr Jamal thinks I'm in the top 1% of LLer's out there. That's a grand claim for a modest dude like me, but who knows, maybe he's right lol. These days I feel like one of those instagram bitches taking mirror selfies. But if it serves to inspire any would be LLers here, then it's fine I guess.
(https://s7d1.turboimg.net/t1/38878017_IMG_20180711_123839.jpg) (https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/38878017/IMG_20180711_123839.jpg.html)
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Dr Jamal is a fair option. I’d consider him if I ever decide to do my 4-5cm I still want.
The price is exactly as it should be. Good is great in Kiev and living standard is alright.
Almost makes me want to go there now.
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You forgot to mention the main attraction of coming to Kiev: the most gorgeous women! And boy have a I seen many a beauty alongside a shorter average looking guy here!!
If you did 7cm on tibias, aim for 7cm on femurs too. You'll keep perfect lower body proportions.
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You forgot to mention the main attraction of coming to Kiev: the most gorgeous women! And boy have a I seen many a beauty alongside a shorter average looking guy here!!
If you did 7cm on tibias, aim for 7cm on femurs too. You'll keep perfect lower body proportions.
So let's make a recap
You did 11 cms on your femurs (which is a freakish and dangerous ammount) and you are claiming you have come back 100% athletically speaking.Furthemore from the photos that you have posted you seem a perfect proportional guy,a naturally 6 footer with big toes.It's not exactly what I'm expecting from a guy that is supposed to have lengthened so much
I find very hard to believe your story especially because all this tale seems a big spot for Jamal
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So let's make a recap
You did 11 cms on your femurs (which is a freakish and dangerous ammount) and you are claiming you have come back 100% athletically speaking.Furthemore from the photos that you have posted you seem a perfect proportional guy,a naturally 6 footer with big toes.It's not exactly what I'm expecting from a guy that is supposed to have lengthened so much
I find very hard to believe your story especially because all this tale seems a big spot for Jamal
Come to Kiev and meet me in person then. I'll show you around )
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There are two possibilities here, either its fake, or he had abnormally short femurs before LL because i have seen with my own eyes a person who did 11cm on his femurs and i could instantly see it.
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There are two possibilities here, either its fake, or he had abnormally short femurs before LL because i have seen with my own eyes a person who did 11cm on his femurs and i could instantly see it.
Read mine and Rocky's diary before throwing words like fake around. You know someone else who has done 11cm on femurs? Please enlighten us. You don't have to give personal details but anything to back up your claim. I would say you're lying.
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If your femurs looks completely normal at 11cm in the eyes of people who knows about LL, then obviously your femurs where quite short to begin with.
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if you look very closely, they don't. I am out of proportion, there is no doubt about it. Maybe the photos show it in a kind light, but it's ok cos I'd rather be taller. I didn't have overly short femurs previously. Maybe a little, I don't know, but the doctors at pre-op stage did not think so.
People will not notice unless I tell them. I worked in the corporate environment for many years and no one ever suspected anything.
Right after lengthening, it may have been a lot more obvious as your legs lose a lot of mass, but with time and exercise as you bulk up again, the body adapts and you fill up in such a way as to look more in proportion.
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Dr Jamal has asked me to update his information on here.
Website link above is out of date. Actual website is:
http://www.correction.kiev.ua
You can see my before and after photos and xrays here:
http://www.correction.kiev.ua/news/patient5.htm
Latest price for 2018 is:
Femurs: USD 47,700 (€41,327) for standard 7cm. Each extra cm is USD 3000 (€2600). Room and board is additional USD 1000 (€866) per month. This includes maid service, all food cooked and prepared, apartment cleaned. Massages, hot baths, help with daily activities if needed.
Tibias: USD 48,800 (€42,280) for standard 5cm. Each extra cm is USD 3000 (€2600). Room and board is additional USD 1000 (€866) per month. This includes maid service, all food cooked and prepared, apartment cleaned. Massages, hot baths, help with daily activities if needed.
Prices are in US dollars. Exchange rate at time of writing: $1 = €0.87
Under patient experiences, there is myself and Rocky. I did mine 14 years don't forget and Rocky has just come to the end of his LL journey (at the time of writing) and starting his recovery. Links to diaries below. Regarding the negative information about Dr Jamal, I will say this: Some patients were too old or lazy, smokers, bad eaters... You can be older, but you must still be pretty fit and healthy. As I've said previously, the doctor will operate on you and break your bones, but it is UP TO YOU to heal, grow and recover. It is not fair to blame the doctor if you are lazy.
My diary:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=9000.0
More photos here:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=9023.0
Rocky's diary:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=5395.0
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41k euros for a very old nail in a very poor country like Ukraine (where average salary is not more than 250 euros per month!) are way too expensive.
Even if Nemer is a capable doctor (something I don't know) he is still too expensive considering the nail he uses and the country he operates.
Also, the 3000 extra cost for every cm more than 7 seems ridiculous to me.
Anyway, at the moment there are doctors in west countries that operate with even less money with precise 2 (like Giotikas), I can't see why someone would go to Ukraine and Nemer. But that is just my opinion.
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@ Bodybuilder, FYI the nail is one of the best out there. It is an evolution of the original and pioneering nail developed by Prof Bliskunov. Ukraine may be a poor country but you get treated to western standards here. And you get to stay in modern accommodation. The 7cm is offered as standard because that is what most patients can and should accomplish within a time-frame of 3 months without too much bother. Extra cm means more time and resources are needed.
Of course everyone is free to chose their own doctor and location, but I would say for a solid internal method like Jamal's, it still represents good value.
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Bodybuilder is right. 47k for femur with an old-tech nail is way too much. Especially in a country like Ukraine which is poorest of the european countries.
@moderators of this site, you may be looking into taller_in_kiev shilling for Dr. Jamal. This forum is supposed to be neutral yet we have taller_in_kiev who has written that he has now moved to live in Kiev and probably has a business arrangement with this doctor.
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Lol you're so funny. Dr Jamal is a friend, you might note he doesn't have any fancy marketing behind him. As a former patient with a good result, I can vouch for him. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. If you or bodybuilder feel he's too expensive, fine, go somewhere else, go to India for all I care. As a professional, he is entitled to set his own price, doesn't matter where in the world he's based or what the average wage is.
He doesn't need to justify it to people like you.
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Bodybuilder is right. 47k for femur with an old-tech nail is way too much. Especially in a country like Ukraine which is poorest of the european countries.
@moderators of this site, you may be looking into taller_in_kiev shilling for Dr. Jamal. This forum is supposed to be neutral yet we have taller_in_kiev who has written that he has now moved to live in Kiev and probably has a business arrangement with this doctor.
There's no way to know if he is promoter. This a problem for forums like this. They're full of promoters and they're difficult to detect. How do you know if he's a helpful patient or a paid promoter? In the case of Monegal I know Cinderella is a FAKE but for Jamal we don't know.
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There's no way to know if he is promoter. This a problem for forums like this. They're full of promoters and they're difficult to detect. How do you know if he's a helpful patient or a paid promoter? In the case of Monegal I know Cinderella is a FAKE but for Jamal we don't know.
Hi,
the problem is not that he is expensive for me. But he is too expensive for the nail he offers. Its not worth it. That was my point.
I am not going to india and get butchered. Its gonna be a US surgeon or birkholtz/donghoon and only precice.
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Hi,
the problem is not that he is expensive for me. But he is too expensive for the nail he offers. Its not worth it. That was my point.
I am not going to india and get butchered. Its gonna be a US surgeon or birkholtz/donghoon and only precice.
What would you say are the main drawbacks of his nail?. Isn't it full weight bearing, so that's a good thing.
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Hi,
the problem is not that he is expensive for me. But he is too expensive for the nail he offers. Its not worth it. That was my point.
I am not going to india and get butchered. Its gonna be a US surgeon or birkholtz/donghoon and only precice.
tlannister, you are a little pathetic, i am sorry to say. You and bodybuilder both. If anyone is a promoter on here, I'd say it was you with your precise (or perhaps not so precise) and name dropping of doctors. You claim Dr Jamal's nail is cheap? What, you have a price list of all the nails on the market? If so, please share with the rest of us and back up your claim.
I would argue the nail is a relatively small cost of the overall surgery cost, rendering your argument null and void. And in case you didn't know, you don't get to keep the nail as a souvenir after your surgery, not with Dr Jamal anyway. Maybe with your precise doctor. If so, I'm sure you could flog it on eBay)) someone might just be thinking of a DIY LL job out there) Yeh, never mind the LL result lol, be happy that you got "an expensive nail" out of it!
A nail should be judged on it's merits and track record. The Jamal nail, an evolved version of the original and pioneering Bliskunov nail is fully weight bearing, made of bio-compatible titanium, has a simple clicking mechanism, no magnets or electronics and has an excellent track record. I am not aware of any other nail on the market offering any significant advantages over it.
If you want to promote your precise and/or any particular doctors, I have no problem with that, but please do it on your own thread instead of littering other people's pages with nonsense comments.
Also for the record, I have not moved to Kiev permanently. I may be here for a few more weeks and while I am here, I am happy to offer my mentoring and support to any potential LL'ers wanting to come here. Wishing you well on your LL journey and life.
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Hey everyone. I am saddened to say that a couple of sad, uneducated and pathetic members/trolls on here have tried their best to diss the great city of Kiev, which is almost like a second home to me. Whether or not you consider it a destination for you LL, Kiev IS one of the greatest cities in Europe, it is also one of the greenest. The history and culture here is unparalleled. There are many vlogs on youtube, but if you've never been here, the following 3 should open your eyes a bit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YSf-YgDXY0?rel=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhB_wisjtxM?rel=0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPCqu0VvwGY?rel=0
********Trolls, save your comments if you have nothing constructive to say**********
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Hello,
As some of you might know, I am a patient of Dr. Jamal, who has done LL in Kiev in 2013.
If you are interested, you can read my diary in the old forum.
It has not been an easy journey of course, but now I am doing fine, doing sports (running, tennis etc.) as well.
I am happy to get the Bliskunov nail from the right leg removed soon, probably this october.
Later I'll post a recent xray of my bones, which was just taken in Kiev by Dr. Jamal to plan the nail removal surgery...
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Hello,
As some of you might know, I am a patient of Dr. Jamal, who has done LL in Kiev in 2013.
If you are interested, you can read my diary in the old forum.
It has not been an easy journey of course, but now I am doing fine, doing sports (running, tennis etc.) as well.
I am happy to get the Bliskunov nail from the right leg removed soon, probably this october.
Later I'll post a recent xray of my bones, which was just taken in Kiev by Dr. Jamal to plan the nail removal surgery...
great to see you. I thought u werent ever going to post again.
How did you treat your non-union (or was it discrepency?) in the end? and do you know why it happened? lack of nutrition, genetics, or malpractice?
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********************* UPDATE **********************
Dr Jamal to offer Precise 2 and Stryde (whenever available) as alternatives alongside his own proprietary nail.
More info and pricing coming soon. Watch this space.
Once again, I don't want to blow my own trumpet, but my result speaks for itself. What more do you want a nail to do for you?!
https://youtu.be/WmGGIjtnOgI?Rel=0
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Also, video detailing Dr Jamal's proprietary nail coming soon.
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Promotor of Dr. Jamal lol
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great to see you. I thought u werent ever going to post again.
How did you treat your non-union (or was it discrepency?) in the end? and do you know why it happened? lack of nutrition, genetics, or malpractice?
Hi tlannister,
there was a bone graft done in the left leg, you can also read about in the diary. In the right leg the bone basically came by itself eventually. So I guess it was a delayed union instead of a non-union in that case. Reasons? I have no idea and could only speculate.
Anyway, here are some recent x-rays:
Left leg:
(https://i.imgur.com/0Xmvx9T.png)
Right leg:
(https://i.imgur.com/cKtITdr.png)
As you can see, the bone is stable like a normal bone, just a little more massive. So surely it is time for nail removal!
About not posting anymore:
There is a point where you don't want to think about LL and the forum anymore and just want to go on with your life, which is in fact a new life.
Going from really short to "okay short" as a male is a huge life changer. I've even been considering doing external tibias as well to add ~5cm, here in my home country Germany. But due to responsibilty for my family I probably won't be able to do it.
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LOL why you left leg has a normal Intramedullary rod and the right one has the jamal nail ? HAHAHHA nice one :D
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LOL why you left leg has a normal Intramedullary rod and the right one has the jamal nail ? HAHAHHA nice one :D
This is a new nail, which replaced the Bliskunov at the surgery, where the Bone Graft was done. Not sure, what would be so funny about it though...
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Hi there Emanuel
Thank you for posting your Xrays and well done on your recovery. I think you didn't have the smoothest of rides but very happy you got there in the end. Your bone consolidation looks great and yes I'd say you're not far from getting the metal out of you. Dr Jamal will advise on that of course. If I am still here when you come for that, would be a pleasure to meet you. Your replacement rod I am guessing is the newer Jamal nail, an improved version of the Bliskunov, which I hear prevents accidental clicking?
P.s. ignore the idiot doomsday, he's just out to trash Dr Jamal at every little opportunity. Also I am wary of tlannister, smells like a little troll to me.
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This is a new nail, which replaced the Bliskunov at the surgery, where the Bone Graft was done. Not sure, what would be so funny about it though...
so a new nail and a graft because of delay or non union. That really work well for Dr Jamal's credentials :)
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Hi tlannister,
there was a bone graft done in the left leg, you can also read about in the diary. In the right leg the bone basically came by itself eventually. So I guess it was a delayed union instead of a non-union in that case. Reasons? I have no idea and could only speculate.
Anyway, here are some recent x-rays:
As you can see, the bone is stable like a normal bone, just a little more massive. So surely it is time for nail removal!
About not posting anymore:
There is a point where you don't want to think about LL and the forum anymore and just want to go on with your life, which is in fact a new life.
Going from really short to "okay short" as a male is a huge life changer. I've even been considering doing external tibias as well to add ~5cm, here in my home country Germany. But due to responsibilty for my family I probably won't be able to do it.
I am really happy it worked out in the end. Your bone looks great and unlike some peoples body reject bone grafts, yours seems perfect! For people who havent done this surgery and suffering from height discrimination, its a self-medication to hear that your life has improved after becoming taller. Thank you! enjoy your life.
as for Jamal and his nail, this forum needs to send out a warning. Its 2018 and we non-unions should not be accepted as "normal" for LL.
I am not going to continue writing about Abu jamal in this thread as it belongs to Rocky.
@Doomsday please continue here http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=9107.0
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so a new nail and a graft because of delay or non union. That really work well for Dr Jamal's credentials :)
Doomsday, you are a former LL patient right? It was a while ago too, wasn't it, just skimming your previous posts. Why don't you post us a little photo of your masterpiece result? Or a short clip showing your walking, running? My guess is you can't even walk properly, let alone run. So as I've said to you in another thread, either put up or shut up.
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@tlannister, BANG, there goes that face of yours flat on the floor again!
The doctor's name is not Abu Jamal. Get the name right, I have previously pointed this out to you.
This thread doesn't belong to Rocky, but Dr Jamal.
As I explained in the other thread, you don't even know what caused the problem in Emanuel's case, yet you're so quick to jump all over the good doctor like a crazed chimp. The doctor by the way did his best to resolve the complication at no extra cost and it's good to hear Emanuel is now doing well.
This forum needs to be warned about the sad and pathetic little troll that you are. Listen to me, don't play with fire, you will get burnt. No more from you or that other tw@t Doomsday on this thread.
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Just a quick update here. Dr Nemer is currently organising his own login details to be able to post here himself. In the meantime, if you'd like to contact him, please email him directly at jamal.abunemer@gmail.com
The website address I previously provided is out of date, apologies for this. Please don't use the contact through the old website. His new website is coming soon.
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Hello all dear potential limb lengtheners! At the advice of a couple of my former patients, I decided to post here myself.
I have a new webiste coming soon with more patient experiences and I am also in contact with NuVasive Specialized Orthopedics to see about the possibility of offering their Precice Stryde nail in addition to my own going forward. More info coming soon. Happy to answer any questions in the meantime. Thank you all for your patience and best regards.
Dr J A Nemer
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How much do you charge for corrections? I had a surgery in Serbia and I have some issues with my legs, I'm hesitant to ask because of the 41000$ price tag especially since it's Ukraine.
Do you use an external method or an internal for corrections. My issue is minor bow leg on left, worse bow leg on the right leg and the right leg has is bent backwards slightly from the tibia so when I stand up straight there's pressure on the right knee
Thanks
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How much do you charge for corrections? I had a surgery in Serbia and I have some issues with my legs, I'm hesitant to ask because of the 41000$ price tag especially since it's Ukraine.
Do you use an external method or an internal for corrections. My issue is minor bow leg on left, worse bow leg on the right leg and the right leg has is bent backwards slightly from the tibia so when I stand up straight there's pressure on the right knee
Thanks
I know one patient with bent leg of one side was quoted about 12k USD to fix it with Dr Lee in korea
So I hope Jamal is cheaper than that
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Additional costs when you go over 7 cm is a joke!
Also before it was about 40 000 Euros including a 3 months stay. Now everything is seperate...
Bad price for a poor country.
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Dr Jamal's website address has changed to the following:
https://www.orthopedicjamal.net/ (https://www.orthopedicjamal.net/)
He also has a Q & A thread here if you have any questions for him:
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2815.31
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Guys i think taller in kiev is very very genuine..coz i have exactly his measurements pre OP height-170.5 and wingspan-178cm..and i know how it looks....and look closely at his arms they look a bit shorter as compared to his 6 feet height....this dude is my inspiration for CLL..looking forward to it in 2025..wish me luck guys..thank you