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Title: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 25, 2016, 10:53:08 AM
Hi everybody
Last week I had my dreamed operation of leg lengthening in Milan with Dr. Pili.
This will be my description of my experience.

Some info about me:
I am 30 years old man 163 cm tall (or shoes I should say).
I am aiming to get 8-9 cm taller within the next year.
I am using HEF.

Wish me good luck
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: chineseguy on April 25, 2016, 11:43:19 AM
why pili not catagni?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 25, 2016, 12:44:14 PM
With PILI, as I clearly say in the title  8)
But your question is not that silly! I am seeing Catagni for my first consultation in May as Dr Pili is away.
They work closely together as he also says in his site.
http://drpiliortopedico.it/en/leg-lengthening-stature-limb-augmentation-become-taller-increase-high-short-leg-limb-surgery/ (http://drpiliortopedico.it/en/leg-lengthening-stature-limb-augmentation-become-taller-increase-high-short-leg-limb-surgery/)
And in his Q&A on this site.
http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2804.0 (http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=2804.0)


Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 25, 2016, 12:49:24 PM
why pili not catagni?

I chose Pili over Catagni because he is more easy to get in touch. He has an assistant that helped me finding an accommodation where to stay.
In addition he promised to do my femurs later if I will not be happy with 8-9 cm.  ;D
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 25, 2016, 12:50:12 PM
chineseguy

When are you getting your surgery?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: determination on April 25, 2016, 01:09:46 PM
HEY MAN

Glad there is a new Diary for PILI
Stop talking and show us pictures. ;)

Good luck with your experience
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: ouroboros on April 25, 2016, 01:34:32 PM
In addition he promised to do my femurs later if I will not be happy with 8-9 cm.  ;D

Congrats on choosing a great doc!

With regards to femurs, how many cosmetic surgeries has he done (internal precise) for femur lengthening?
Did he give you an idea on the cost for femurs?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: chineseguy on April 25, 2016, 01:35:04 PM
exgertae, thank you for answring.

i am not sure to choose italy or guichet.     i am going to do 4 cm  so i can reach 170+.   my friend say doing lower leg look better than upper leg    but i want to learn english more so england will be my choice. also   i do not like scars

i am not yet sure
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 27, 2016, 11:16:08 AM
HEY MAN
Glad there is a new Diary for PILI
Stop talking and show us pictures. ;)
Good luck with your experience

Hey
Calm down! I have been busy!  :o

Here are some pictures of me when back home.  ;D

(http://drpiliortopedico.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/IMG-20160424-WA0018.jpg)
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 27, 2016, 11:26:19 AM
Congrats on choosing a great doc!

With regards to femurs, how many cosmetic surgeries has he done (internal precise) for femur lengthening?
Did he give you an idea on the cost for femurs?

I did not ask this question!
But he says he will do it as second procedure if I ask later after this LL, in case I want to be even taller!!!!  8)
He says around 10% of LL patients ask for a second lengthening to the femurs with nails. Considering he does around 30-40 aesthetic LL a year I believe he does 3-4 with nails a year!  But this is my thought!  :-X

He promised me he would do it for a special price on me if I request later and promised 5 cm!
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 27, 2016, 11:30:46 AM
exgertae, thank you for answring.

i am not sure to choose italy or guichet.     i am going to do 4 cm  so i can reach 170+.   my friend say doing lower leg look better than upper leg    but i want to learn english more so england will be my choice. also   i do not like scars

i am not yet sure

I believe lower leg looks better too! People with long lower legs look taller than people with longer femur!  ::)

4 cm would be so easy on tibia!
If learning english is your priority than I understand you... And obviously you don't have budget problems!!!  ;)

Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: determination on April 28, 2016, 07:47:59 AM
Congratulations exagerate

A few questions for you.

Did you meet other LL patients?
Where are you staying?
Did he let you go back home?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 28, 2016, 03:44:06 PM
I saw a few patients with frames at the consultation. A girl getting her leg straight, a child and another couple of guys but I am not sure they were there for LL.  ???
I went back home after 2 days. But I was offered the option of a nearby place.

 
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 28, 2016, 03:47:58 PM
An update...
I am doing fine.
The worst day was actually the second day when I was still in hospital. I had some strong medicine given by doctors and that's it.
Now I have some pain but nothing serious.
I walk around in the house but my legs feel very weak, with a funny gummy like sensation.  :o
I hope you guys know what I talk about!  :P



Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: berkeclor123 on April 29, 2016, 05:53:30 AM
What happens if there are complications?? I figure the back and forth trip must be taxing.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 29, 2016, 07:28:01 AM
Dr Pili explained me that with HEF there are no big complications and after 2 days it is safe to go home.
If I have a problem I can contact him and he will tel me what to do.
If I have to come back I will get a train to Milan or Lecco.
I know people doing the same from much more distant.  8)

Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: determination on April 29, 2016, 08:42:33 AM
What if I want to stay close? Did he give you this option?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 30, 2016, 12:54:44 PM
Sure!
His team would help to find a place in Milan/Lecco to stay...




Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Cheez on May 01, 2016, 08:46:08 AM
May I ask, how far are you living from Milano (or wherever you could reach Dr. Pili)?

I'd be scared a little bit probably.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Benny on May 03, 2016, 08:42:33 AM
any news about you? i m thinking to do the operation, but i m so conflicted between catagni and pili
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 03, 2016, 09:12:00 AM
May I ask, how far are you living from Milano (or wherever you could reach Dr. Pili)?

I'd be scared a little bit probably.

It takes me around 1 h by train or 1:20 by car to get to Milan.
HE gave me the option to stay closer but he actually said it is never been an issue to be distant. He has patient from abroad as well as the far south of Italy where it would take up to 5-6 h to drive to Milan.

Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 03, 2016, 09:14:03 AM
any news about you? i m thinking to do the operation, but i m so conflicted between catagni and pili

I think they are both great surgeons and use the same technique.
Unless you want to have the option of lengthening your femurs after tibia, just go by your deep felling, you can't get it wrong either way!  ;)

Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: ouroboros on May 03, 2016, 12:30:58 PM
It takes me around 1 h by train or 1:20 by car to get to Milan.
HE gave me the option to stay closer but he actually said it is never been an issue to be distant. He has patient from abroad as well as the far south of Italy where it would take up to 5-6 h to drive to Milan.

What about physio?  Do you have a place close to home?  Were you given specific instructions?

I was under the impression that the doctor wanted us to stay nearby for the distraction phase at least (3-4 months)
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Cheez on May 03, 2016, 01:48:52 PM
The Frames look really massive. Even more massive than the ones they seem to use in Russia.

How is sleeping at night with these things on your legs?

Thanks for your replies, and hoping to read more of your thoughts and experiences.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Benny on May 06, 2016, 10:38:35 AM
How was the pain you had just after the op?
I wish u the best luck
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 08, 2016, 09:32:14 AM
What about physio?  Do you have a place close to home?  Were you given specific instructions?

I was under the impression that the doctor wanted us to stay nearby for the distraction phase at least (3-4 months)
Dr Pili told me to do some exercises, very simple ones. He also sent me some videos to see how to exercise.
He told me I will do physio with some proper therapist just if needed.

He was perfectly happy for me to go home as far as I am able to come back and see him when requested. He told me there are no major complications needing urgent attention when using HEF technique and therefore as far as I am a few hours away it is perfectly ok by him.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 08, 2016, 09:39:04 AM
The Frames look really massive. Even more massive than the ones they seem to use in Russia.

How is sleeping at night with these things on your legs?

Thanks for your replies, and hoping to read more of your thoughts and experiences.

I asked the same question the first time we met with Dr Pili  ;D
He told me they are lighter as they are made with carbon fibre and in fact they are extremely light!  ;) In fact he sowed me some old fashion classic Ilizarov and they weight far more!! :P
He also explained me they are more stable as carbon fibre is more rigid and possibly this is the reason why they are more accurate and grow bon faster  :D

First nights it was weird to feel my legs hanging from the frames but aster I got used.

Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 08, 2016, 09:45:45 AM
How was the pain you had just after the op?
I wish u the best luck

Pain the first day was not too bad. It was mainly the difficulties walking that was uncomfortable.
The second day the pain was worse! As apparently I was walking too much!!! :P
Now it is fine and I take pills just now and than.

I spoke with some of other patients before my operation and they had different stories thought! :o
Some took pain killers continuously for almost the all first week.

Dr Pili told me pain was an issue with the old fashion Ilizarov because it moves too much but with HEF it is far bearer.
THANKS GOOD   ;D
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: myfreewill on May 08, 2016, 10:36:17 AM
Have you got a better less close up picture?
I really want to see how this HEF is made.
Does it fill rigid as you have been told?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 08, 2016, 11:11:14 AM
It does fill quite rigid, but the first couple of days I felt like I was walking on a jellyfish!  :o

(http://drpiliortopedico.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/HEF-.jpg)

Here is the picture of my HEF  :)
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 08, 2016, 11:15:53 AM
Is it detailed enough!?
 ;)
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: please on May 08, 2016, 11:18:08 AM
YES
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Knik on May 08, 2016, 02:14:04 PM
Is life is expensive in Milan?
Another question: do not you bored you ?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Benny on May 10, 2016, 09:14:17 AM
have you start the distraction? how it feel
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 10, 2016, 09:55:39 PM
Is life is expensive in Milan?
Another question: do not you bored you ?

I do not know what you mean for expensive. It is like an average European big city.
I live in Switzerland thought!  :P
I do get bored every now and than but I keep myself busy.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 10, 2016, 09:58:59 PM
I have been lengthening for around one week.
I don't feel pain when I turn. I have no much tension but one of the wires is causing me problems. The pins are ok but the wires are so much more painful! I am taking painkillers daily.  :-X



Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Knik on May 11, 2016, 11:53:26 AM
I have been lengthening for around one week.
I don't feel pain when I turn. I have no much tension but one of the wires is causing me problems. The pins are ok but the wires are so much more painful! I am taking painkillers daily.  :-X

Walk you sufficiently well enough to take walks ?

As a Swiss, you speak English with Pili?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Benny on May 12, 2016, 08:07:20 AM
in this or next month, i will fix an appointment with catagni and ask him if he let me talk with some patients that he and pili operated
who knows maybe we can meet  ;D
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: lestrac on May 13, 2016, 08:25:48 AM
Hi everybody
Last week I had my dreamed operation of leg lengthening in Milan with Dr. Pili.
This will be my description of my experience.

Some info about me:
I am 30 years old man 163 cm tall (or shoes I should say).
I am aiming to get 8-9 cm taller within the next year.
I am using HEF.

Wish me good luck

Ciao bello, una domanda: puoi dirmi dal momento in cui ti sei svegliato dall'operazione fino ad ora quanto dolore hai avuto complessivamente su una scala da 1 a 10 e cosa pensi al riguardo? grazie

Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 28, 2016, 03:24:25 PM
theophilo

Dr. Pili worked in the UK. He speaks perfect english.
You will have no problems   ;)
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 28, 2016, 03:26:26 PM
Yea Benny

Let me know how it goes  :)
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 28, 2016, 03:33:07 PM
Ciao bello, una domanda: puoi dirmi dal momento in cui ti sei svegliato dall'operazione fino ad ora quanto dolore hai avuto complessivamente su una scala da 1 a 10 e cosa pensi al riguardo? grazie

I had some bed days! Last week I took painkillers 3-4 times a day for two days and I barely could sleep!
Now I am fine, thanks god!!  :)

I knew this would happen and I got reassured it was normal and that is it! I believe so far I have been quite lucky...
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: lestrac on May 28, 2016, 05:22:58 PM
I had some bed days! Last week I took painkillers 3-4 times a day for two days and I barely could sleep!
Now I am fine, thanks god!!  :)

I knew this would happen and I got reassured it was normal and that is it! I believe so far I have been quite lucky...

Ok, ma complessivamente è tutto sopportabile oppure sono dolori allucinanti?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on May 30, 2016, 04:33:08 PM
Pain can be quite bad but not unbearable pain.  :-X
I sleep if I take pain killers and I read on the internet this means it is not too bad.

Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: lestrac on May 30, 2016, 07:18:11 PM
Pain can be quite bad but not unbearable pain.  :-X
I sleep if I take pain killers and I read on the internet this means it is not too bad.

e che tipo di dolore è? un esempio?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Benny on June 23, 2016, 11:56:10 AM
hey are you ok? how it s going?
hope all well  :)
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on July 09, 2016, 04:33:31 PM
e che tipo di dolore è? un esempio?

More than it si like a tension in the legs!
But sometimes I get pain from the screws fixed to my legs! In this case it is different, like a toot pain in the leg  :-[
This is if the skin gets inflammed
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on July 09, 2016, 04:37:12 PM
hey are you ok? how it s going?
hope all well  :)

I am good thanks... I am almost 5 cm taller now and it feels great!  :D
You can not imagine how it feels to be taller after dreaming of it for so long!
Last follow up went well and I have to go on with lengthening...
Keep your finger crossed for me guys!  :o
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Sonia on August 14, 2016, 10:01:29 AM
Dear,
Could u tell us how much did u pay in total for the operation (HEF method)? and if you pay all in once or can be paid in installments?
and also i want to know if there is a limit of age for this operation? :)

Infact,the first time i talked with a doctor about this operation in my country i was just 18 but then i couldn't do it for some reasons (also for the price) now I am 33 and since I am in Italy after reading ur diary i thought to it again :)
I think if i can do this operation it will be in two years (so i will be 35) so i want to know if there is any limit of age or not.

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on August 24, 2016, 06:43:42 PM
Dear,
Could u tell us how much did u pay in total for the operation (HEF method)? and if you pay all in once or can be paid in installments?
and also i want to know if there is a limit of age for this operation? :)

Infact,the first time i talked with a doctor about this operation in my country i was just 18 but then i couldn't do it for some reasons (also for the price) now I am 33 and since I am in Italy after reading ur diary i thought to it again :)
I think if i can do this operation it will be in two years (so i will be 35) so i want to know if there is any limit of age or not.

Thanks in advance

Hi Sonia

For the procedure I spent just about 20.000  :P
If you have been thinking of it for so long you should get the operation done soon and stop just dreaming of it.

I have been dreaming of doing this operation for a long time and now that I am half way and feeling taller and closer to the end I wish I had done it at least one year ago to be done by now!!  8)

But like you I had my doubts and thoughts.

Just contact Dr Pili using his site and ask about this.
http://drpiliortopedico.it/allungamneto-arti/

I am myself 30 and I definitely met people older than me in clinics  :-X
I don't think that would be a problem
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: alexx on August 25, 2016, 02:07:57 AM
Hi exagerate,

thank you so much for sharing, i am very interesting in doing my limb lengthening with this doctor.
So it is really 20.000 for both legs? Seems very cheap comparing to some other doctors.
i wish you Good luck !
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Sonia on August 26, 2016, 06:08:03 PM
Hi Sonia

For the procedure I spent just about 20.000  :P
If you have been thinking of it for so long you should get the operation done soon and stop just dreaming of it.

I have been dreaming of doing this operation for a long time and now that I am half way and feeling taller and closer to the end I wish I had done it at least one year ago to be done by now!!  8)

But like you I had my doubts and thoughts.

Just contact Dr Pili using his site and ask about this.
http://drpiliortopedico.it/allungamneto-arti/

I am myself 30 and I definitely met people older than me in clinics  :-X
I don't think that would be a problem

Thanks exagerate for ur words,
I appreciate it :)
I have to wait to have that amount. For price, infact i am thinking also to other countries like Russia even though I know in Italy it will be easier for me since I know Italian. :)

anyway thanks and update us sometimes with ur news :)
I am happy when I hear the people who obtained what i wish for years :)
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: redi_rv on September 19, 2016, 07:21:30 PM
Hi Exagerate! I hope u r doing well... i just read your diary... u had your surgery in late April, i want to know how fare have u gone, have u removed your HEF??
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Benny on October 24, 2016, 01:16:00 PM
hey how are you doing?
keep us informed  8)
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 22, 2017, 03:49:42 PM
Hi exagerate,

thank you so much for sharing, i am very interesting in doing my limb lengthening with this doctor.
So it is really 20.000 for both legs? Seems very cheap comparing to some other doctors.
i wish you Good luck !

Yes, that is the price. Amazing isn't it? Considering the exceptionality good results!
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 22, 2017, 03:54:05 PM
I removed the frames at the end of January.
10 months for 8.3 cm.
I walk normally now and can also run, even thought I am not yet 100%!
I feel really good with my new height!  8)
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 22, 2017, 03:57:23 PM
Thanks exagerate for ur words,
I appreciate it :)
I have to wait to have that amount. For price, infact i am thinking also to other countries like Russia even though I know in Italy it will be easier for me since I know Italian. :)

anyway thanks and update us sometimes with ur news :)
I am happy when I hear the people who obtained what i wish for years :)
Sonia

Yes, Italy would be a good option for you!
Good food, good weather, good surgeons and good looking guys!  ;)
Let me know if you end up here...
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: LLSouthAmerica on April 22, 2017, 06:06:17 PM
It's amazing. I thought 8-9 cm were TOO much for tibias because from the people here, the ones that did more than 5 cm  usually have ballerina feet. Afterwards if they do an achilles tendon lengthening they end up with less strength in the legs (never recovered close to pre LL) or walk with a limp.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Body Builder on April 22, 2017, 06:31:43 PM
Good job my friend.
You lengthened so much without achilles tendon lengthening and you have no massive bf? Then you are very lucky.
That's what I'm talking about when I'm saying that the threshold of 5cm is stupid and everyone is different.

Keep strong!
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 22, 2017, 07:35:38 PM
I am not the only one!
Dr Pili told me about a guy he did lengthening about 8 cm in around 7 months with no need of Achilles tendon lengthening.
Dr Pili says he was a super man!  8)
Body Builder is right! Everyone is different and there is no set point.
I also met a guy having Achilles lengthened after about 4 cm. He also is fine now and his walking is normal to my eyes!

Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: onemorefoot on April 22, 2017, 07:59:54 PM
Which is the price for Internal lengthening un Italy? Will you accept another round with precice?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: fivetenneeded2016 on April 22, 2017, 08:39:48 PM
I removed the frames at the end of January.
10 months for 8.3 cm.
I walk normally now and can also run, even thought I am not yet 100%!
I feel really good with my new height!  8)
congrats man!
is 8.3 cm ur final height that is after any compression? as in did u lose any length after frame removal like lumiere did?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Body Builder on April 22, 2017, 08:40:11 PM
Which is the price for Internal lengthening un Italy? Will you accept another round with precice?
I think this is about 55.000 euros for precise 2 which is a little too bit imo.
If this price is real, I hope dr Pili change it a little to something like 6-8.000 euros less and I'm sure that he will be maybe the first choice for many of us who want to do imternals in europe.
But when Monegal has a price of almost 20.000 euros less, I think Pili is expensive, not ridiculously like Guichet but still.

So lets hope for a (not big of course) price reduction and Pili will be the first choice for many of us for internals.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: onemorefoot on April 22, 2017, 08:43:21 PM
I read that despite Catagni not doing femurs, he would charge 50k€ so maybe Pili price can be 50k€ too a little less than 55k€,  I want two ll, so maybe a discount can be done.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: notimportant on April 22, 2017, 11:50:39 PM
I don't understand why you say Dr Monegal is 20000 eur less. In Monegal's clinics there are many hidden costs (see Nomad case). Then the guest house is expensive as fk and the fake PT he obliges to hire charges more than a real PT. Dr Monegal's less expensive than Dr Guichet but not as cheap as some people say. If you have complications you can finally pay much more than 100k.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: onemorefoot on April 23, 2017, 12:50:43 AM
Fake pt??? Holly sh-+, but how nobody has complained about that, that is concerning.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: notimportant on April 23, 2017, 01:14:13 AM
There are few posts about this in the forum. People don't complain because they're afraid of him.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: onemorefoot on April 23, 2017, 01:51:39 AM
That can make easier to get fracturated And other serious complications, should se do something?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 23, 2017, 09:53:36 AM
I know he does also Precise but the best is to ask Dr Pili.
He is very approachable and usually replays in a matter of 1-2 days.

http://drpiliortopedico.it/en/allungamneto-arti/
Contact him directly from his site. It is the best option.  ;)
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on April 23, 2017, 10:02:32 AM
I was also scared about complications using a nail. That's why I chose to have a HEF!
It is cheaper and safer.
  :)

Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Knik on May 09, 2017, 02:32:03 PM
can we have some pics ?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: endderz_eyre on June 03, 2017, 12:45:41 PM
Hi exagerate!

Glad to hear that you are doing well! It's nice to see a Swiss around.

I have some question regarding the procedure:

- could you drive during the lenthening?
- how far could you walk a day? would it be possible to work an office job during lenthening?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: Espresso2132 on July 09, 2017, 10:34:53 PM
A che punto sei, anch'io ho fatto l'allungamento con pili... I have also done leg lengthening with pili. I finished lengthening a while back... I am about to be removing my lizarov, I have lengthened 9 cm
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: EveryCMCounts on July 11, 2017, 02:35:32 PM
I must say that this seems lika a highly interesting option! One question! In the description of Dr. Pili and his method the following is stated "When the HEF is removed a splint is applied to the leg to protect the new formed bone.". Does this mean that after having performed LL one will keep a piece of metal in the legs for the rest of ones lifetime? Or is the splint external?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: onemorefoot on July 12, 2017, 05:11:26 AM
I must say that this seems lika a highly interesting option! One question! In the description of Dr. Pili and his method the following is stated "When the HEF is removed a splint is applied to the leg to protect the new formed bone.". Does this mean that after having performed LL one will keep a piece of metal in the legs for the rest of ones lifetime? Or is the splint external?
Just for some months you keep the splint, to protect the new formed Bone, It is already formed but not completely calcified
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: LLSouthAmerica on July 12, 2017, 04:01:42 PM
Does anyone know how long it takes with the device Dr Pili uses to weight bear (walk with crutches) and to walk without support?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: TIBIKE200 on July 12, 2017, 06:03:40 PM
Does anyone know how long it takes with the device Dr Pili uses to weight bear (walk with crutches) and to walk without support?

Like all REAL ilizarov apparatus, immidiatly after surgery
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: doomsday on July 12, 2017, 07:41:36 PM
Like all REAL ilizarov apparatus, immidiatly after surgery
stop misinforming people....
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: TIBIKE200 on July 12, 2017, 07:51:09 PM
stop misinforming people....

 With crutches I meant. And usually it's like that
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: LLSouthAmerica on July 13, 2017, 06:19:14 AM
Is it? Can a former external tibia patient (better if Dr. Pili patient) confirm this?
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: onemorefoot on July 13, 2017, 10:03:28 PM
Is it? Can a former external tibia patient (better if Dr. Pili patient) confirm this?
After Ilizarov surgery, you can walk after surgery, that is the only advantage external fixators have on Internal fixators, also the alignment.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: doomsday on July 13, 2017, 10:49:01 PM
After Ilizarov surgery, you can walk after surgery, that is the only advantage external fixators have on Internal fixators, also the alignment.
Another LL dweller and kid who thinks he knows anything.

There are tons of Ilizarov frames with different amount of pins and half pins put in different places depending who is performing the surgery and patients  legs anatomy
Some doctors dont allow walking even with walker up to 2 weeks to stop bones from grinding and giving some time to let the frame tighten up.
Not mention about the fact that most LON patients are not allowed to walk thanks to pins that need to avoid the rod which weakens the frame.

So please shut the  fcuk if you don't know sh it...
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: TIBIKE200 on July 13, 2017, 11:00:04 PM
Another LL dweller and kid who thinks he knows anything.

There are tons of Ilizarov frames with different amount of pins and half pins put in different places depending who is performing the surgery and patients  legs anatomy
Some doctors dont allow walking even with walker up to 2 weeks to stop bones from grinding and giving some time to let the frame tighten up.
Not mention about the fact that most LON patients are not allowed to walk thanks to pins that need to avoid the rod which weakens the frame.

So please shut the  fcuk if you don't know sh it...

I am talking from what I have seen in a very famous orthopedic center in Italy (not related to cosmetic LL). People here usually use a heavy bulky ilizarov frame made with carbon fibers which makes it very light but also very strong. Patients here are not only allowed but also forced to walk immidiatly after surgery.
  I am talking about pure ilizarov alone and I meant only crutches walker. What happens in third world countries, I have no idea.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: LLSouthAmerica on July 13, 2017, 11:06:24 PM
It's obviously frame and doctor dependent, that's why I'm asking former tibia patients for their experience.

I am talking from what I have seen in a very famous orthopedic center in Italy (not related to cosmetic LL). People here usually use a heavy bulky ilizarov frame made with carbon fibers which makes it very light but also very strong. Patients here are not only allowed but also forced to walk immidiatly after surgery.
  I am talking about pure ilizarov alone and I meant only crutches walker. What happens in third world countries, I have no idea.

Hey TIBIKE, which famous orthopedic center are you talking about?  Do you mean walking immediately after surgery with crutches and when can you walk normally? Tanti saluti if you are from the land of pizza, pasta e mozzarella.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: onemorefoot on July 14, 2017, 12:00:20 AM
Another LL dweller and kid who thinks he knows anything.

There are tons of Ilizarov frames with different amount of pins and half pins put in different places depending who is performing the surgery and patients  legs anatomy
Some doctors dont allow walking even with walker up to 2 weeks to stop bones from grinding and giving some time to let the frame tighten up.
Not mention about the fact that most LON patients are not allowed to walk thanks to pins that need to avoid the rod which weakens the frame.

So please shut the  fcuk if you don't know sh it...
One more time you, pain, what the fu!! LON has to do with pure external fixation in terms of weight support? I told you And tell you one more time, if you go to cra??? Doc as yours, they have you in frames forever, every doc you ask Will tell you that you should walk with crutches with PURE external fixation, becuase It helps bone formation, if you didnt do It, that is not my problem, so shut Up your a!! and use better the forum.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: doomsday on July 14, 2017, 03:17:40 AM
One more time you, pain, what the fu!! LON has to do with pure external fixation in terms of weight support? I told you And tell you one more time, if you go to cra??? Doc as yours, they have you in frames forever, every doc you ask Will tell you that you should walk with crutches with PURE external fixation, becuase It helps bone formation, if you didnt do It, that is not my problem, so shut Up your a!! and use better the forum.
First of all, boy, the question was about weight bearing after the initial surgery. You said immediately which is a horse shi t. 
Second, there is no such thing as "REAL ilizarov apparatus". The Ilizarov frame/technique is more of a concept of using struts, rods, rings etc. It is highly adjustable. TSF and Hexapod are different but the principle of lengthening is similar.

Then you're changing your narrative by talking about general weight bearing which is a totally different subject. LON was mentioned there as an example that sometimes you can't walk and it still uses ilizarov frame...

You're getting lost in your pure stupidity, and then you try change the subject to defend yourself.   

Yes, weight bearing is good for the callus, muscle etc  in general but there is more caveats to that and saying that someone can walk straight after the surgery because of Ilizarov frame is a total BS.

In summary over 1000 post of nothing. Also, that story about Italian clinic is hilarious, keep lying boy. 
 
PS. You don’t know   about my doctor or doctors so please STFU.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: onemorefoot on July 14, 2017, 03:37:14 AM
Read Maurizio Catagni topic, " when Will I walk"? " "Immediately", I am not lying, every doc says that you can walk after the surgery with crutches. There are even vídeos, but I stop here, there is no sense in fighting about an universal truth.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: The Dreamer on August 26, 2017, 06:54:00 AM
can we have some pics ?
Yeah,I was wondering why no one is asking X-rays,pics after surgery ecc.Everyone is able to write an essay like that
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: syekhandone on August 29, 2017, 10:46:39 PM
Doomsday,
I've been following any lenghtening forum almost 20yrs now....Since Random H... Board to old forum  and now LL Forumorum.
Have you seen Salameh Fix?
His unique frame (modified from original ilizarov Frame) allow his patients to walk "immediatelly" after surgery...
His frame has been used more than 10 years with good result

You can find diaries of his patients in this forum or in "old" forum.... or go his website;
http://www.lengthening-sldf.com/
Learn more doomsday..

As for a "real Illizarov",...yes there is a "real Illizarov" frame,.. it is combination of several (2-4) full circular frame with only using "wires" no pins at all....that's a "real ilizarov" frame.
I could share you the presentation or the textbook if you want to learn...
Learn doomsday...
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: exagerate on August 30, 2017, 08:17:04 AM
Just for the sake of the discussion.
I found this video:
patient walking with crutches the day after surgery.

This is one of Pili's patients.

Click on the link to see the video

https://www.facebook.com/chirurgiaallungamentoartiDottPili/videos/vb.1627643804118911/1656375017912456/?type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/chirurgiaallungamentoartiDottPili/videos/vb.1627643804118911/1656375017912456/?type=2&theater)
https://www.facebook.com/chirurgiaallungamentoartiDottPili/videos/1656375017912456/ (https://www.facebook.com/chirurgiaallungamentoartiDottPili/videos/1656375017912456/)

(https://scontent.flis2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21192927_1940663866150235_427139202290376826_n.jpg?oh=99a867148f53c7d5d924c3f330cd9c4e&oe=5A5D1622)
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: The Dreamer on August 30, 2017, 10:12:57 AM
Just for the sake of the discussion.
I found this video:
patient walking with crutches the day after surgery.

This is one of Pili's patients.

Click on the link to see the video

https://www.facebook.com/chirurgiaallungamentoartiDottPili/videos/vb.1627643804118911/1656375017912456/?type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/chirurgiaallungamentoartiDottPili/videos/vb.1627643804118911/1656375017912456/?type=2&theater)
https://www.facebook.com/chirurgiaallungamentoartiDottPili/videos/1656375017912456/ (https://www.facebook.com/chirurgiaallungamentoartiDottPili/videos/1656375017912456/)

(https://scontent.flis2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/21192927_1940663866150235_427139202290376826_n.jpg?oh=99a867148f53c7d5d924c3f330cd9c4e&oe=5A5D1622)
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It's a video just of 8 seconds.More of that,the shotting is not very clear.
Can we have some of your pictures and videos ? You can cover you face with a dark circle if you worry about privacy
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: onemorefoot on August 30, 2017, 06:54:24 PM
As I said wrote before, I dont know what happens in third world, but with good doctors, weight bearing shouldnt be a problem talking about Ilizarov frames.
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: syekhandone on August 31, 2017, 02:04:11 AM
Doomsday,
Dr. Salameh also practices in Germany at Dr. Schmit clinic for cosmetic limb lenghtening using his own Salameh fixator,....pse find diaries of his patients who have been surgery in Germany.
And everyone agree that Germany is not a "thirld world"..
Learn doomsday....learn...
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: kimthien2246 on September 08, 2017, 03:06:15 PM
Hello everyone,

Iam newbie and dreaming about doing LL operation at the end of this year (5cm in tibias).
i have ever heard that after lengthening, years later, people usually face some problems like aching bones, getting painful whenever weather changes like turning winter. Although your bones get fully solidarity, this side effect still last forever.
Is it true?

Tks so much!
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: The Dreamer on September 10, 2017, 09:07:59 AM
Exaggerate,any updates ?
I would also ask you if you are italian
Title: Re: New Diary with Dr PILI in Italy looking to get 8-9 cm taller
Post by: federico94 on October 15, 2017, 11:10:43 AM


Some info about me:
I am 30 years old man 163 cm tall (or shoes I should say).
I am aiming to get 8-9 cm taller within the next year.
I am using HEF.

Wish me good luck
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Ciao Exagerate, I hope you're doing fine, could you please tell me your wingspan?
Thanks, all the best