Limb Lengthening Forum
Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: Asiann123 on August 09, 2016, 01:38:06 AM
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Hi,
I came from Viet Nam (Ho chi minh city) and I'm having leg lenthening here. My starting height was 1m54 and my sister's height was 1m47.
I'm 18 years old and she's 20.
We started our journey 3 months ago and its been a while now. We've faced many problems but so far so good.
I was a very short men. In my country people are short so all i need is 1m7 so be consider "normal". My ended height is expected to be 1m62 and then i'll wear lift shoes for the rest or until I have enough money to do a second operation.
So to begin with, we are very young and money is a big problem for both of us.
My sister heard about legs lengthening 4 years ago when she was looking throught the news. She told me she wanted to do it and my reaction was "You are eight dumb or crazy". Few years later, when I'm done with growing and relized that i'm gonna be a short men forever i started to have a second thoughts. I started to collect information about this on the internet and turned out it is not so bad. I wanted to do legs lengthening. At first I wanted to wait until I have enough money to go with the betzbone or do it with Pailey or Guichet because I believe they are the best in the world and since this surgery is very dangerous I didnt want to risk my legs.
However, life is not always as we want it to be. I got rejected by almost every single girl because of my height. Their answer are all the same "I wish you are taller than me, then we can surely be together because i dont want to date anyone who is shoter than me" i've never felt so useless...
So when I have a break between uni and highschool I decided i will take one year off and do leg lengthening.
I started to make plan about my surgery. Since my parents are not allow us to do this (we tried to beg them for the money before but they got scared by the the thoughts that we would paralyzed our legs and lose it forever so they thing we better be short )
We decided to take the school tuition fee for uni to to go for it (10k/person)
10k/person isn't enough to travel oversea even with the cheapest doctor but that's all we have. I started to have a crazy thoughts about doing it right here in Vietnam. Now it's my sister turn to told me "You are either dumb or crazy"
But then I found her proofs that it is also safe to do this in Vietnam. We'll have enough money for it and our doctors are not butcher anyways. It was a back and forth fight for about 6 months. Then I finally cannot wait for her anymore. I told her I'll go and do it anyway because I believe in myself and I believed the doctors here are as good as the doctors overseas. (Honestly the information about leg lengthening in Vietnam impressed me a lot. They've been doing this since 2000 and the complications percentage is very low. But at first they only do it for people who have one leg shorter than other leg until 3-> 4 years ago one men came and begged them to do it for cosmetic reason)
My sister came with me eventually. We traveled to the North of Vietnam (Hanoi) because we thought the best doctors for legs lengthening were there. But we got disappointed soon. The hospital was very crowded and the doctors were so so busy that they can't even stop to talk to us for one minute. We understand, that is a very normal thing to see in Vietnam but we lost our patients at one week of waiting. Everyday on that week we went to to the hospital and sat in front of the doctors office to wait for him from 6 am to 5pm. We gave up because we were running out of money (which unfortunatly we didn't have a lot) and we assumed that if they are that busy then how can they gonna taking good care of us if we do leg lengthening there.
We went back to Ho Chi Minh city and found out there are another 2 doctor just as good. We came to the first doctor's private office to talk about leg lengthening his name is Huynh ba linh. The price he offered was too expensive. 10k surgery fee for LON. We can't afford it because we have to pay the rent and food on our own which is crazily expensive. Our last hope is doctor Dinh van thuy.
We came to his private office by our last hope because he seems to be the cheapest. His price was 5k LON tibal sugery fee for 1 person. We cant describe how happy we were. We decided to do it with him.
About him.
He's been doing leg lengthening for almost 20 years. He's the orthopedic dean of the hospital.
He had about 200 legs lengthening patients with almost zero complicatiom rate.
First we make a transition for the frame. He measured our legs and have somthing like bespoke frame for each of us.
Tibial LON amout of lengthening is 7cm for both of us. But i'm thinking if we lengthen til 7cm and feel no pain i will begged him for 1 more cm because my goal is 8cm.
We came to the hospital 2 weeks later for total check.
My sister had the operation first. And then my turn came.
(I'll leave it here because i'm so sleepy right now. I'll get back to the topic tmr)
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8 cm is too much for tibias, do 5 or 6 but not 8, please.
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He had about 200 legs lengthening patients with almost zero complicatiom rate.
What a doctor considers a "complication" is in this huge gray area. I'm sure the majority of his patients aren't cosmetic and they don't do bilateral tibias up to 8cm. Most major complications can be fixed with additional surgery, however.
You seem to have read much of the forum and came in prepared, so hope you're able to achieve your goals. Cheers
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Well he told me the maximum amount I can lengthening is 7cm but it's also depends on my body. Thank you for the recommendation I'll see how it goes on my body if it's too much then i'm gonna stop sooner.
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Hi LLCAPTAIN,
His complications on legs lengthening including:
Infection
Non-union
Nerve and blood vessels damage
Premature consolidation.
The infection one is really easy to prevent or to treat if it does happen by keeping the pin site nice and clean.
Non-union: once every two week he injects me with some drugs for bone healing and chondrosis. Also on a daily basic I have to take about 6 supplements twice a day:
Glucosamine 500mg
Vitamin C 500mg
Calcitriol 0.25 US
VG-5
Magnesi-B6
Calcium 500mg + vitamin D3 200 IU
Nerve and blood vessels damage: He keep me at the 0.67mm/ day rate.
Premature complications: X-rays every two week so he can adjust the lengthening rate base on my body's healing ability.
He said the maximum lengthening amount I can achieve without complications is 7cm and it will start to tax on my body from 5cm and beyond but let see how it goes.
8cm is just my idea because my thirst for height is real lol but maybe I'll follow his instructions.
As for the patients. His cosmetic patients are around 50. But it really hard to have their information because after they are done with this they just disappear. I've already met his 3 others patient. The rest either refused to meet or totally cut the connection with him because they don't want anyone to identify them and get to know about their secret.
Two did L.O.N
One did the original method.
They are all walking perfectly fine and their mobility was normal ( Around 90% before legs lengthening)
They did 7cm.
He's not really well-known as the doctors in India because English is not our second's language. We barely speak English here in Vietnam and he's already too busy to advertise himself globally on the internet.
Thank you for your cheering. 😊😊😊
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Dear Asiann123:
Which kind of nail do your dr. use for LON Tibias ? (Paley or Betz ? or ?)
and does your dr. has his website ?
thank you!
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So I've lengthening my legs by 3cm so far.
The pain is minimal. I barely feel it. But when i do I know i forget to take supplements. If i take my pills on time and excercise my legs every days I won't feel anything.
Ok so flash back now.
The surgery day = 1st day.
I woke up in the recovery room. My legs are heavy but i can move them up and down easily. I tried to do it couple of times and then a nurse come to told me not to move my legs so much because I may hurt the new cuts and it cause bleeding. So i just lied there quietly. The pain was not so bad. The nurse told me she would tranfer me to my room because she thought I was ok but first we gonna took an X-ray.
We took an X-ray and then got back to my room where my sister was waiting for me.
I came in and lied in the bed which is opposite her. She told me "congrats, we're gonna reborn from now"
But i'm too tired to actually said anything, i just felt as sleep.
2st day.
I woke up in the morning because of the pain and inconvinience on my legs. I was never a back sleeper.
The sore on you legs just won't leave you alone and the heaviness of the frames reminds you what have you done to your body.
I lied there quietly. I was happy that the pain was manageble to me but also upset because it did hurt you know.
I wished the pain could go away. I wished I wait to do it with the electric nail because the frames were annoying as hell.
I felt as sleep again. They put me on high dose of pain killer so I slept all the time. I coudn't eat much on that time. I just slept and prayed that when i woke up my body would get use to this.
My legs were heavy today and i coudn't lift them. A doctor come in and told me i did not need to lift my legs now. All I need to do is start to slowly move my insteeps and toes
3st day
I woke up in the morning, feeling the pain growing inside me. I coudn't stand this anymore. God help me. This was so fking painful. I started to cried because of pain and how helpless i felt.
My older sister asked me what was wrong. I told her i was in pain. She encourage, support and sharing the pain with me. That was her 5th day so she felt so much better, even no pain at all. She told me things will get better soon after the first 3 days.
She asked the nurse to come and check why I felt so painful. Turn out the painkiller bottle was broken so i didn't have any painkiller in my blood. That was the reason for my suffering. She was angry with them. They told us because today is sunday and the hospital doesn't have a lot of staffs so they just forgot to check. I was pissed as well. I wish i could broke their legs in two pieces and then forgot to give them painkiller.
But I forgot quickly so i just felt as sleep again.
4st day
I woke up in the morning and felt little pain. It was so magical. I excercise my instep and toes a bit and then i tried to bent my knee. I was doing just fine. My doctor came in and told me to keep coutinue what I was doing because it was good for me.
My sister was so much better than me at that time. She started to lift her feets little bit. Having mobility back slowly but surely.
5st day.
Today I felt little pain but my feets are a bit hard to move.
I kept excercise it and everyday it get better. I looked at my sister, she was handling so well. She started to stand on her feet today already for about 15 mins.
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Dear Asiann123:
Which kind of nail do your dr. use for LON Tibias ? (Paley or Betz ? or ?)
and does your dr. has his website ?
thank you!
Hi its SIGN tibial nail from USA. Unfortunately he didn't have any website because English is not our second language. But feel free to ask me anything because i'll ask him for you.
I texted him all the time lol. Because i worry about eveything. I usually have sudden panics about my legs.
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Hi its SIGN tibial nail from USA. Unfortunately he didn't have any website because English is not our second language. But feel free to ask me anything because i'll ask him for you.
I texted him all the time lol. Because i worry about eveything. I usually have sudden panics about my legs.
Not an insult to your country but you got balls to do LL in Vietnam man. Many people have complications with this Huynh Ba Linh guy. I saw it on the old forum.
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Not an insult to your country but you got balls to do LL in Vietnam man. Many people have complications with this Huynh Ba Linh guy. I saw it on the old forum.
Really i didn't know that. Nah it's okay I didn't do it with him anyway because when we meet he sound too much like a business man rather than a doctor. What complications did they have do you remember?
My doctor is Dinh Van Thuy
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We came home after about 15 days in the hospital. We could walk with cruches for about 50m/day and we can stand for about 3->4hours.
We did our housework by ourselves. We ordered food from nearby restauran. We live in an apartment where you can order anything by phone and they will bring it up to you.
When we were in the hospital, there are about 5->6 people come to meet us, they all wanted to do leg lengthening. My doctor let us meet and let them decided whether they really want to do this or not. When they ask me about the pain level i told them its minimal but they didn't believe me. I tried to explan but they were just too terified by looking at the frame so they just left.
But there was one girl still decided to do. She will do it next month. I'll try to convince her to take picture and video and i'll pose it all here with me and my sister as well after i finish my leg lengthening diary.
First check up after one month.
He looked at our x-ray and told us we could lengthen 0.1mm/day. We can lengthen every 6 hours. Because we are very young (i'm 18 my sister 20) so our bone heal faster. For older people it is just 0.75mm/day
Everything went smoth.
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thanks for updating.
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We came home after about 15 days in the hospital. We could walk with cruches for about 50m/day and we can stand for about 3->4hours.
We did our housework by ourselves. We ordered food from nearby restauran. We live in an apartment where you can order anything by phone and they will bring it up to you.
When we were in the hospital, there are about 5->6 people come to meet us, they all wanted to do leg lengthening. My doctor let us meet and let them decided whether they really want to do this or not. When they ask me about the pain level i told them its minimal but they didn't believe me. I tried to explan but they were just too terified by looking at the frame so they just left.
But there was one girl still decided to do. She will do it next month. I'll try to convince her to take picture and video and i'll pose it all here with me and my sister as well after i finish my leg lengthening diary.
First check up after one month.
He looked at our x-ray and told us we could lengthen 0.1mm/day. We can lengthen every 6 hours. Because we are very young (i'm 18 my sister 20) so our bone heal faster. For older people it is just 0.75mm/day
Everything went smoth.
Dear Asiann123:
if you have X-ray pic, can you post it ? thanks
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I'm in the hospital at the moment because my right leg got an infection. Its ridiculous that the infection is not on any of my pin site but on the cut.
It was totally my fault anyways because i thought the cut is healed so i washed it with warm water clot.
My doctor was upset with me a lot. He told me the infection was not really seriouse but I should be more careful because if it was deeper it will affect my bone healing.
My mom found out we did legs lengthening. We tried to lie and told her we got motobike accident but she didn't believe. She told us "i borned you guys so i know. This must be legs lengthening. Don't even try to lie"
Because she loves us so much she just support and forgive us for everything. She told us if we really wanted this we can cheated her to get to the surgery room but after we go out of that place we should called her so that she can take care of us. What's family for?
It was touching. She went to our side and help us to covered up everything with everyone. She hired us a personal assistant for 24/7 hours, a driver and a much nicer apartment. It felt like heaven men. I love her so much.
Since we have a personal assistant to do everything for us we became lazy. We didn't even walk anymore.
And we got a second complication. Our muscle shrink a bit because we were too lazy to excercise.
My doctor was so angry he even shouted at me face "Why didn't you follow my instruction, this is not a joke. If you don't excercise your legs, soon your muscle will all shrink and what left is bone and skin. You cannot walk again if you keep countinue to be like that"
He was quite upset.
Now i'm staying at the hospital so that he can take good care of me before returning me home again.
Everyday, the physican girl will come to help me to start to stand and walk again and the nurse will come to change my bandage for the infection.
I've been staying here for 2 days now and my legs got better. The infection wound is dry and clean. Legs are getting better and will start walking again soon.
Today my doctor came and talk to me in a calm voice. I guess after shouting at my face he felt some guiltiness lol.
"I'm sorry for shouting at your face 2 days ago but you should know that when I do this for you I took a huge responsibility, i could just refuse to do this for you but i didnt do that. if something wrong happen to your legs it will be the biggest regret of my life"
Those words made me feel glad that I chose him to be my surgerone.
Anyway he's not always emotional like that. Usually he will suddently come to my room and told me to keep excercising, keep excercising, dont be lazy or he gonna take off the frame and wont let me do the legs lengthening anymore.(In serious tone, it make me kinda feel like a student who did something to really upset the teacher. I must admit he make me scare)
Anyway I will keep everything update.
I will update x-ray photo tonight if i can find them. I don't remember my doctor keep it or I keep it. Lol short term memory problem.
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Hey dude,
post up more information about the doctor.
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Update:
After the infection was treated, they kicked me out of the hospital. Its a gorverment's hospital so its always busy.
They sew my right leg infection hole up. After 1 week a nurse come to my house to cut the stiches for me.
So basiclly i don't have any infection anymore. Good news.
My infection cost me $400
My left leg is 5cm longer now but my right leg is only 4cm. Due to the infection, i have to slow down the lengthen.
So i have uneven leg now. Hm bad news. But It will be over soon.
I dont feel any pain on left leg at 5cm rate. I have pretty normal mobility. I can lift it, bent it, straingten it, ect...
On the other hand, right leg is a nightmare. It was 6/10 painful. I don't know if it is because the infection or what but It has been really painfull lately at the "bone cut" zone. I have some knee pain which i didn't have before.
I start to feel pain at my knee just few days ago. I'm thinking this is because of the rod inside my bone move up a little. I think its a bit swollen as well. I'll ask my doctor about this on the following check up.
I also stop lengthening my right leg at the moment. I wil wait for a few days then start again. I think the problem is i lengthen my bone too fast at 1mm/day when other patient only lengthen at 0.75mm/day.
I cannot stand on flat feet at the moment and walking is painful because of uneven legs. I have appoinment with a physical therapy tmr to take care of this mess.
Sometime it is really deppress to countinue. Whenever i want to give up, i remember why did i start.
I might be a dck to say this but compare to others ll patient, i think i'm having quite good journey so far. Almost painless time and been taking good care of.
For anyone want to ask about the doctor information.
His website is on process and i'll post the link when its done.
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Update:
Turned out the knee hurting its not due to fast lengthening rate. Its because I used my right legs too often. I put all of my body weight on it when walking so my knee cannot hold everything up anymore. I'm getting better with the knee problem anyway.
My physical therapy told me i could walk without cruches. 30days more until frame removeeeeee.
I'm soooooo excited.
My physical therapy is 5"6 and he's consider a tall men in vietnam. Today when i stand tall I almost look as tall as him. Never been so tall in my life hahaha. Good feeling.
Just a little bit more to goo.
I know i can do this.
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Update:
Anyone know how to update pics please help me. I don't know. Can i send you pics through mail and you help me to update them here.
I have 3 legs lengthening paitients pics including me standing tall. I want to update video clip as well but I don't know how.
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Upload the picture on www.imgur.com and post the link here.
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Hello
I wish you have good surgery.
Im 20 yeaes old japanese.
I want to get surgery in vietnam.
Pleace tell me how can i get contact with your doctor.
He can speak english??
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How much time did it take you to lengthen 5 cm ?
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How much time did it take you to lengthen 5 cm ?
Hi, this is really depend on your age. If you are younger he will allowe you to turn faster. The normal time for 5cm is 3 months. 15 days since operation you will start to lengthening with the rate 0.75mm/day so almost 90 days for 5cm.
If you are younger like me and my sis the rate will be 0.1mm/day. About 2 month and a half.
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Hello
I wish you have good surgery.
Im 20 yeaes old japanese.
I want to get surgery in vietnam.
Pleace tell me how can i get contact with your doctor.
He can speak english??
Hi, you can reach him via this email
limblengthconsultant@yahoo.com.
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Hi, this is me standing tall at 4.5cm
http://imgur.com/Cu6Z5SM
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Me 5 days after operation
http://m.imgur.com/hQRAcHj
Frame looks
http://m.imgur.com/EKbVYuL
http://m.imgur.com/kVEFVMg
Standing at 6cm.
http://m.imgur.com/ETljEBi
My sis 4 days after operation.
http://m.imgur.com/f94Fvzr
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My doc keeps the x-ray so i cant post it here sorry guys. I only have video me walking after 6 days of operation. I will pose it in youtube in few days
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Looking great dude, would never even guess you've done any cm at all lol. Good luck and good progress!
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@Asiann123 - Congratulations. Your proportions look good, and I admire and respect your bravery to take up this challenge at the age of 18.
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[/quote]Looking great dude, would never even guess you've done any cm at all lol. Good luck and good progress!
Hi, thanks dude. I think this is because Asian people usually have long back and short legs. My doctor told me so. :D
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@Asiann123 - Congratulations. Your proportions look good, and I admire and respect your bravery to take up this challenge at the age of 18.
Well, I always told myself, if not now then when. This journey is the toughest thing i've ever been through srl :D
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Update:
Another paitient is coming. Its been 3 lately plus me and my sis so its 5 at this time. I will update her photo as well. This year he has nearly 20 paitients.
I don't even know that much people in Viet Nam willing to do Legs lengthening until now..
The girl who's coming this afternoon for legs lengthening was rejected by my doctor at first because he think she doesn't really need this surgery (She already got a stable career, a husband, two kids)
But then she told him "You promise me last time if I thought about this seriously then come back you would do it for me"
Well, he cannot say no so she's going to have the surgery in 1 month or so.
I'll keep updating about me and all his paitient if they let me + photo.
:D just ask me any question if you would like to. I dont mind, i have lots of free time in hands :))))
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Hey anyone know how to put like a note on top of this thread?
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Hey man, how is your journey going? haven't seen you post for a few days now! hope things are well.
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How much have you lengthened so far? Any complications? How's the ballerina? Keep it up!
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Hey man, how is your journey going? haven't seen you post for a few days now! hope things are well.
Hi, things are great. I'm expecting to walk normally again in about 2 months. I just forget to update lol. My doc have another paitient thought, this time male and he will have the operation next week. I just keep forgeting to update about new paitients. i'm feeling so guilty now. I'll keep the update from now on.
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How much have you lengthened so far? Any complications? How's the ballerina? Keep it up!
No complication for me hehe, no knees pain as well. I guess it depends on where the doctor put the nail on your knees. I'm expecting to walk again in about 2 months. About the ballerina, it will get better when you stop lengthening. I got them bad at first about 3cm but it got better and now its just little. The trick here is if you want to avoid it you should always sit on bed and put your legs on the ground at 90 degrees all the time. Except when you sleep then you may put your legs again the wall.
It helps me with ballerina. It gets better in just 3 days.
Cheers
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Good for you! Did you attain your 8cm goal?
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Good for you! Did you attain your 8cm goal?
I'm current at 6,5cm and slow down when lengthening because if i lengthening too fast hurt. My doctor said Its best for my legs to stop at 7cm if i want a full and fast recovery but then let see how it goes. I'm getting tired of waiting, so maybe i'll just stop at 7cm. I'm missing my friends and all the parties. When you just stay inside for so long time seem to stop.
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Yea I bet it would start to hurt at a certain length, probably best to go with what your doctor tells you anyways best of luck hope your recovery goes well
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Yea I bet it would start to hurt at a certain length, probably best to go with what your doctor tells you anyways best of luck hope your recovery goes well
Thank you :D
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Can you explain to me how long does the LON process takes? I've contacted the doctor about it and just waiting for his responses... I was hoping the latest would be 6 'months as I need to return to work.. I'm currently 170cm, was hoping to do 8cm! How long do you think it will take?
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Can you explain to me how long does the LON process takes? I've contacted the doctor about it and just waiting for his responses... I was hoping the latest would be 6 'months as I need to return to work.. I'm currently 170cm, was hoping to do 8cm! How long do you think it will take?
I think for L.O.N 6 months is enough. But may i ask what is your job? because if its like desk job it would be a lot easier. It depends on bone formation for the doctor to decided when to take the frame off you legs. He can take the frame out sooner but it won't be safe to walk because sometime you just get tired to walk on cruches so you decided to walk without them and then break the new bone formation. I'm not sure about 8cm bro, he won't let you lengthening that much and i have to say he's strongly agains the idea going beyond 7cm for a fast and full recovery. For 7cm it only takes like 3months to lengthening. The rate is 0.75mm/days.
Dr Thuy is on business trip, he'll be back in 2 days or so, i heard the nurse said that. I hope my respone help.
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I think for L.O.N 6 months is enough. But may i ask what is your job? because if its like desk job it would be a lot easier. It depends on bone formation for the doctor to decided when to take the frame off you legs. He can take the frame out sooner but it won't be safe to walk because sometime you just get tired to walk on cruches so you decided to walk without them and then break the new bone formation. I'm not sure about 8cm bro, he won't let you lengthening that much and i have to say he's strongly agains the idea going beyond 7cm for a fast and full recovery. For 7cm it only takes like 3months to lengthening. The rate is 0.75mm/days.
Dr Thuy is on business trip, he'll be back in 2 days or so, i heard the nurse said that. I hope my respone help.
i will not be rude, but if you stopped now its will be better for your recovery. Tibia is more difficult than femur and take far more time to recover. if its ok to wait many months to recover then go ahead and see how your body will react, good luck.
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Arent you one of the people here who want go get at least 8 cm in one go. Im suprised your not encouraging him.
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Arent you one of the people here who want go get at least 8 cm in one go. Im suprised your not encouraging him.
i didn't put 8 cm as a permanent goal, we are here to help each other and give advice to each other. 8 cm for Tibia is a lot, give me anyone here disagree with me? ask Sweden too, he made 7. but now the guy is almost there so lets encourage him if he insist to 8, who knows maybe he's one of the luckiest (unique) to run in less than 7 months with "8" cm Tibia
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He wont be later on when he gets all those complications from going too far. If people with paley have suffered complications going for 8 cm then this guy with this unknown doctor in Nam will sure as hell do too.
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He wont be later on when he gets all those complications from going too far. If people with paley have suffered complications going for 8 cm then this guy with this unknown doctor in Nam will sure as hell do too.
thats why i prefer 5 Tibia and 7 Femur
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So youre saying you wont go beyond 5 cm for tibia then.
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So youre saying you wont go beyond 5 cm for tibia then.
5-6 for tibia is realistic but no way 7, just imagine 8!!
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Well the tibia takes more to recover so make nore sense to do that first and and as you said you wont go beyond 6cm.
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I'm a tennis instructor in the U.S. so i often stand for 2 to 3 hours long feeding balls.
and i see, i understand that there will be great complication going beyond 7cm, but i will see what the doctor says once i meet with him.
I am very athletic and have a high tolerance for pain, as I've gone through ACL reconstructive surgery and shoulder dislocation surgery without as much as taking any pain killer after the surgeries. i am also naturally flexible, maybe these attributes help speed up my recovery and possibly help me lengthen to 8cm without any major issues.
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I'm a tennis instructor in the U.S. so i often stand for 2 to 3 hours long feeding balls.
and i see, i understand that there will be great complication going beyond 7cm, but i will see what the doctor says once i meet with him.
I am very athletic and have a high tolerance for pain, as I've gone through ACL reconstructive surgery and shoulder dislocation surgery without as much as taking any pain killer after the surgeries. i am also naturally flexible, maybe these attributes help speed up my recovery and possibly help me lengthen to 8cm without any major issues.
if you do it for sport (the myth of long leg better) then i will tell you your athletic ability will diminish. but that doesn't mean you will not enjoying sport and the new beautiful height
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Hey Kaiser.
I agree that my athletic ability will severely be diminish, however, i am doing this for the looks and the insecurities of being short :) i can just play tennis recreationally without having to compete, i wouldn't have been able to play professionally anyway haha... sadly..
Are you considering the operation as well?
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Hey Kaiser.
I agree that my athletic ability will severely be diminish, however, i am doing this for the looks and the insecurities of being short :) i can just play tennis recreationally without having to compete, i wouldn't have been able to play professionally anyway haha... sadly..
Are you considering the operation as well?
yes i am and i quit just because of the surgery (fk professional career) i will make it as a hoppy, yes am considering it. whats your height now
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yea.. the only thing holding me back currently is tennis as its something i've always done growing up! but for the extra three inches, i think its worth it haha! i am currently 5'6! i think that converts to between 167-170cm? not sure as they always give me different conversion online..
what is your current height now? and how much are you looking to lengthen?
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yea.. the only thing holding me back currently is tennis as its something i've always done growing up! but for the extra three inches, i think its worth it haha! i am currently 5'6! i think that converts to between 167-170cm? not sure as they always give me different conversion online..
what is your current height now? and how much are you looking to lengthen?
when i measure my height they give me different numbers, most of the time 169.5-170. one they told me 168 and i said no fking way, and once they told me 173 i said no fking way (i wish if its true hahaha) but i think 170 in the best number yet. i was thinking of 8.5 which is a lot, lets be realistic 7 cm is a lot and safer so i will stick with it. why risk my self for extra tiny cm
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yea im not too sure... but for sure an extra 7-8cm will solve all our problems haha.
True, once you wear shoes, you'll be even taller anyway haha.. so any plans on where and when you want your surgery? i'll probably get mine in June, once im done with school in the U.S.
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yea im not too sure... but for sure an extra 7-8cm will solve all our problems haha.
True, once you wear shoes, you'll be even taller anyway haha.. so any plans on where and when you want your surgery? i'll probably get mine in June, once im done with school in the U.S.
Hahahah thats true, our problem is not height but our mental, i used to date a lot of women they did say anything, but when i start seeing this forum i broke with all of them, so its a mental, now i want to wear lifts i didn't use it before. our problem is lack of confidence. btw whats your age now?
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yea i agree that it has a lot to do with confident as well... for me its because all of my friends are at least 7-8 cm taller as well... i always feel like a midget whenever im in a group..
I just turned 23 last week, how about you?
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yea i agree that it has a lot to do with confident as well... for me its because all of my friends are at least 7-8 cm taller as well... i always feel like a midget whenever im in a group..
I just turned 23 last week, how about you?
but its depend if you're asian or what
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Did anybody read Smallguys diary? He did 8cm LON in tibia he had several surgeries for his tibias. From 3cm to 9cm he lengthened 2mm a day due to lack of time 6months post op he was running. And what complications are you guys talking about later on? Ballerina? That's likely to happen anyways. Infection? Non union? None of these are due to amount lengthened.
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Did anybody read Smallguys diary? He did 8cm LON in tibia he had several surgeries for his tibias. From 3cm to 9cm he lengthened 2mm a day due to lack of time 6months post op he was running. And what complications are you guys talking about later on? Ballerina? That's likely to happen anyways. Infection? Non union? None of these are due to amount lengthened.
Hmmmm is he suspected user or this is for real? and does LON mean an Internal or External?
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He's real he was at sarins guest house with Sweden LON is external with faster recovery
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He's real he was at sarins guest house with Sweden LON is external with faster recovery
its completely rare to have this kind of recovery maybe one of 100 patients, i hope i could do like him in the future
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2mm A day on tibia. Thats a awful lot to do.
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I imagine turning at 2mm a day would be painful no doubt
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2mm for tibias??????????????????????? :'(
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The physio here told me about some Italian guy they got who went against what they told him and was turning 3mm A DAY in his tibs. A month later when they did his 1st X-rays he was already past 8cm needless to say they cut him off hhahahah what a guy
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The physio here told me about some Italian guy they got who went against what they told him and was turning 3mm A DAY in his tibs. A month later when they did his 1st X-rays he was already past 8cm needless to say they cut him off hhahahah what a guy
what happened to him?
and where's the owner of this thread no one realized he's missing?
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I'm not sure he had really. As ballerina and a gruesome month I would assume but no nerve damage no non union. You have to realize that 99.99999999% of people who do this surgery have never even laid eyes on this forum. This forum holds very little power over a doctors future in this field and also why this forum is hardly a liable source when it comes to doctors "track record". I've seen what 5 maybe 6 at the most sarin diarys he performs double that amount of surgeries in two months. Now people call him a butcher and apperently a rapist. Anyways I just realized this is someone's diary and this doesn't belong on here sorry Asian hope you're doing well please update us and you condition I'm eager to here
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I don't know about rapist but his butcher reputation is from the dealings he had with the old forum admin and people complaining about major complications with him.
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Hi guys, i'm doing well if you ask. I'm about to get back to normal life. My frames are going off. However, to walk as normal as before might take sometime. My doctor keep pushing me to walk on the walker more and more or do streching and excercise my legs so I'm quite busy at this time.
For the guy that ask me what if we lengthening more than 7cm. Well, I think just imagine your legs's soft tissue as a rubber band. You can strech them out but they also have their limit. To go beyond 7cm is not impossible but unsafe for most people.
Even lengthening at the rate 1mm/day on tibial hurt my legs, i cannot imagine someone do it at 2mm/day or 3mm/day that can sleep at night. And with 7cm on my legs right now is hard to walk. It will take month before i can normally walk again
I know we all want to have the most cm but when you're on the actual produce you will want to reconsider and go with the safest side. I have been there, I had asked him for 10cm but if you ask me now if i still want to go with 10cm i'll say no fk way.
My doctor said, its true you can lengthening as much as you wish, but lengthening is just a simple stage and not really hurt, the real challenge is when you have to stand-up-and-walk-again-like-normal.
Oh, i've heard a story about a girl who did LL with another doctor many years ago. She turn so fast, double the amount he recommend (nearly 2mm/day) and end up with non union legs, major damage on blood vessel and nerves. They then have to cut her both legs because it start to rotting from the inside. The doctor know about it too late, maybe 3 months time or so. I'm not sure about this though. I heard it from his other paitient. Just a gossip story.
Anyway updating about me:
People have been curious about knees pain on L.O.N so in my case I don't have any. My sister doesnt have it as well as his 4 others paitients (all did L.O.N)
His old paitients is fine also. So maybe this is something to do with experience in the surgery room? My doctor also and expert on knees replacement (he's so famous on this) so maybe he knows well where to put the nail to avoid hurting his paitients? (Just my theory thought)
I'll keep updating, please forgive me because i forgot to update video clip again lolllllllllll :)))))
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Good to know that you are doing well Asiann123! Hope you'll be able to walk normal and return to normal functions again! how long did it took you in total from the date of surgery until the day your brace came off? and is the doctor back from his business trip yet?
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Hi Asiann123,
I wish you and your sister the best and to achieve your dreams.
it will be very useful for the forum to post more about your doctor overall price so far i assume you mean USD ($). his contacts and also about the time you spent in Vietnam and the prices over there.
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Good to know that you are doing well Asiann123! Hope you'll be able to walk normal and return to normal functions again! how long did it took you in total from the date of surgery until the day your brace came off? and is the doctor back from his business trip yet?
Hi, He still not come back yet. I'm waiting for him to come back and take my frame out. I think maybe on Monday.
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Hi Asiann123,
I wish you and your sister the best and to achieve your dreams.
it will be very useful for the forum to post more about your doctor overall price so far i assume you mean USD ($). his contacts and also about the time you spent in Vietnam and the prices over there.
Hi, do you know how I can edit information in the front of the theard. I'm quite stuck becauase i cannot edit anything in the front page. If i put it back here i'm afaird people cannot see it.
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I'll just leave his information here and hope people will see it until i can find some ways to put this up front. Can admin help me with this? Anyone know how to contact the admin?
Dr Dinh Van Thuy
Located: Ho Chi Minh city, VietNam
Experience: over 350 case of legs lengthening
Complication rate: 5%
Complication include:
Infection, non-union, nerves and blood vessel damage, premature consolidation.
Major perform: Tibial lengthening. (Also do femur but not highly recommended)
Maximum amount to lengthen: 7cm on tibial and 5cm on femur
Rate: 0.75mm/day
Contact via this email: limblengthconsultant@yahoo.com
Price for Illazavor lengthening: 5000USD
Price for L.O.N: 5500USD
The price including all medication fee for legs lengthening (not include complication)
For the staying: 5000 USD for 4 months with a company specialize in taking care for international patient
They will help you with the visa
A private room (double size bed, air condition, wifi, tivi with private bath room inside)
House keeper
Nurse
Physician
Driver
Food
An assistant to help you with your request or your need when you staying with them
They also will lend you walker, crutches, wheelchair so you don't have to buy anything. I'm staying with them so i know, i'll take you pic of the room. Very nice room and friendly people.
4 months time package is enough because by that time you will be done with the lengthening process, only left with healing process.
For L.O.N, he will take out your frames
For Ilazarov, you can come back to your country with frame on and wait for the bone to heal then take out the frames out at your country (if you want) because any doctor can take it out without surgery or you can come back to VietNam so that he will take the frames out for you with no extra cost.
If you want to expand your stay with them they will charge: 650USD/month (try to negotiate with them don't be shy, if you stay more they will give discount)
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After the infection, my mom thought I should be staying with the company to avoid further accident because there will be someone to take care for you all the time.
I pay them 600USD per month
My mom negotiate with them and got discount.
Me and my sister staying in the same room though.
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I'll just leave his information here and hope people will see it until i can find some ways to put this up front. Can admin help me with this? Anyone know how to contact the admin?
Dr Dinh Van Thuy
Located: Ho Chi Minh city, VietNam
Experience: over 350 case of legs lengthening
Complication rate: 5%
Complication include:
Infection, non-union, nerves and blood vessel damage, premature consolidation.
Major perform: Tibial lengthening. (Also do femur but not highly recommended)
Maximum amount to lengthen: 7cm on tibial and 5cm on femur
Rate: 0.75mm/day
Contact via this email: limblengthconsultant@yahoo.com
Price for Illazavor lengthening: 5000USD
Price for L.O.N: 5500USD
The price including all medication fee for legs lengthening (not include complication)
For the staying: 5000 USD for 4 months with a company specialize in taking care for international patient
They will help you with the visa
A private room (double size bed, air condition, wifi, tivi with private bath room inside)
House keeper
Nurse
Physician
Driver
Food
An assistant to help you with your request or your need when you staying with them
They also will lend you walker, crutches, wheelchair so you don't have to buy anything. I'm staying with them so i know, i'll take you pic of the room. Very nice room and friendly people.
4 months time package is enough because by that time you will be done with the lengthening process, only left with healing process.
For L.O.N, he will take out your frames
For Ilazarov, you can come back to your country with frame on and wait for the bone to heal then take out the frames out at your country (if you want) because any doctor can take it out without surgery or you can come back to VietNam so that he will take the frames out for you with no extra cost.
If you want to expand your stay with them they will charge: 650USD/month (try to negotiate with them don't be shy, if you stay more they will give discount)
That's a really good price.
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$5000 might be the cheapest LL price we've seen, ever.
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Yeah I know, his price is like the cheapest in the world.
I know some factor that affect the price thought:
He create his own frames to cut down fee for patients
He perform the surgery in a government's hospital (if its private hospital, the price is likely to be 10.000USD)
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The indiian spinal institute Is close at 6000 but that company helping you out defitnely would be cheaper overall. How would a person get in contact with that company.
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Asiann123,
Thank you for the Inputs, I think if you didn't manage to edit your first post, maybe another topic on the doctors sections about your doctor will be a good solution.
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This doctor is really cheap i think Professor Leonid Solomin (Russia) costs+ staying is similar to your doctor (For people who want to also consider another cheap options).
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Yeah I know, his price is like the cheapest in the world.
I know some factor that affect the price thought:
He create his own frames to cut down fee for patients
He perform the surgery in a government's hospital (if its private hospital, the price is likely to be 10.000USD)
What is the quality of the frames?
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The indiian spinal institute Is close at 6000 but that company helping you out defitnely would be cheaper overall. How would a person get in contact with that company.
Hi, you can contact them via this email limblengthconsultant@yahoo.com
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Asiann123,
Thank you for the Inputs, I think if you didn't manage to edit your first post, maybe another topic on the doctors sections about your doctor will be a good solution.
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This doctor is really cheap i think Professor Leonid Solomin (Russia) costs+ staying is similar to your doctor (For people who want to also consider another cheap options).
Hi, thanks I will put his information in the doctor section :D
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What is the quality of the frames?
Hi, they are made from stainless steel.
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I'll get LON for femur within next year. Is it also $5000? Please help, I'm getting a loan later this year. I'm concerned with the language, does hospital folks understand English... From what hospital is it? So I could get a referral for medical visa.... Thanks alot... Needed your response and help alot.
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I'll get LON for femur within next year. Is it also $5000? Please help, I'm getting a loan later this year. I'm concerned with the language, does hospital folks understand English... From what hospital is it? So I could get a referral for medical visa.... Thanks alot... Needed your response and help alot.
I reccomend you should do tibial because you can only lengthen 5cm with femur. Yeah, I think the price will not incease next yeat. Hospital folk can speak english, thus, you also have a translator to help you with your requirement. I think if you contact with the company they will help you with everything including visa for your staying so don't worry too much. They will take good care for you as they did for me. (They are partner with the Dr)
You make me feel like you were me before I have the surgery, I was worrid and scared just like that. Best wishes go to you and don't worry everything is going to be okay.
Cheers :)
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Hey Asiann123.
Have you taken your frames out yet? If so, how does everything feel? Are you able to walk normally? Do you have any knee pains? How are the scars? Can you post some pics for us to see?
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Hello Asiann123
Can you please send some photos of the scars where the cut have been made. This will help us evaluate the aesthetic outcomes after the surgery. Also you mentioned about facilities. Can you send us some photos of the room?
Thanks!
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Hey Asiann123.
Have you taken your frames out yet? If so, how does everything feel? Are you able to walk normally? Do you have any knee pains? How are the scars? Can you post some pics for us to see?
I had the surgery yesterday. I don't feel any knees pain before or after the surgery.
I just have the surgery pain which is so annoying. After the frames are off you will feel funny because your legs are free. It just feel strange, I sometime feel my legs can fly because it is too light hahaha (Sorry for my bad english)
I will update the healed scar picture so you can imagion how the scar look like. But please remember I have keloid scar so it may look not so nice. You can compare it to my sister scar (she doesn't have keloid scars so her legs look nicer then mine.
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Hello Asiann123
Can you please send some photos of the scars where the cut have been made. This will help us evaluate the aesthetic outcomes after the surgery. Also you mentioned about facilities. Can you send us some photos of the room?
Thanks!
Hi, I will update the healed scar image. Its quite invisible for men legs thought because we have a lots of hair to cover it. I'm staying at the hospital at the moment. I will update the room picture when I come back. Maybe 15 days. Because next week doctor is on business trip again so no one will sign the paper for me to get out of the hospital...
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Can you walk normally?
After removed the frame
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Can you walk normally?
After removed the frame
I cannot walk now because I'm just out from the surgery room 1 day ago.
It still hurts but I think the pain will relief after 2 days.
I will let myself get some rest and start to walk again after 5 days
I'm quite confident that I can walk normal again thought.
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Get well soon ;D
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Scar on lower part of tibial (close look)
http://m.imgur.com/g7Uly8h
Normal view look
http://imgur.com/plisc1A
Scar on knees (close look)
http://imgur.com/o0oQdP5
Normal view look
http://imgur.com/ZfWaFEA
Scar on higher part of the tibial (close look)
http://imgur.com/WKvgtrc
Normal view look
http://imgur.com/s0pa0wq
This is the picture I took before the surgery. When doctor perform new surgery to take out the frames and looked the nails, he will cut the wound at the same place again so no new scar thought. Please remember I have keloid scars so maybe you scars will look much better.
Tomorrow I will update my sister scars so that you guys can compare. I'm just too tired today.
If you want you scars to look nice, please don't pick it. Let the scarbs fall out by themselve, I picked mine and regrets for life time lolll because my scars turn into black color, It could have be pink :(. I pick them at the knees area so compare to others scars on my legs it look worst (sooooo ugly)
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Get well soon ;D
Thank you :)
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Your scars don't look that bad, they healed pretty nicely. If they won't fade you can't still go for scar removal since your skin is pretty pale.
Good luck buddy, it will only get better from now on.
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Did Dr. fixate the fibula?
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Wow, sounds like everything went amazing for you. And 5000$??? That's the same price I paid for my braces, I'm in shock how cheap it is and how well you and your sister seem to be doing. What's the hospital called?
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in LON when will be the external frames removed for 3 inches? i guess 3 months
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4 months for 3 inches more or less.
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That is great to hear! are you able to normally walk yet? and being able to stand for a long period of time?
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I'm really considering this option after reading this diary and the doctor's conditions.
OP, how are you? Any news? You've been missing for a few days, I hope you're enjoying your new height :p
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Update? Is everything going ok?
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Anybody know what happened to him? haven't heard anything in awhile...
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Hey update about myself.
I've been walking like a duck lately but I believe it will get better in one month or so.
In ocassion when I'm standing straight, my friends told me I get a lot taller.
I strarted as 1m54, lengthening to 1m61 and i wear lift shoe for another 8cm.
So now when I stand tall I look like a 1m70 person.
Chances with girls are better than ever. Honestly, before this they wouldn't blink twice when I try to talk to them. After this they are the one who have to run behind me hahahahah.
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I will update video clip when I can walk normally.
When you are taller your life will change.
I don't know about you but for me it changes dramaticly.
When i'm 1m54 people usually make jokes about my height? They underestimate me as well. But as i get taller they just stop it. Thank god.
My old friends drop their jaw when they meet me again because they NEVER believe I can be this tall.
It was a long journey and it is tough. I don't know how to thank Dr enough for helping me make my dream come true.
I heard his assistanct say this year they are fully booked. When i'm in the insitute I heard people come everyday asking for leg lengthening. Being short is suck. If I have to come back and do this again I would still do this because you only live one, don't die with regrets that you didn't live those best years in your life fulfill.
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I heard he will have 3 foreigner patients next year as well. Around February. So maybe if you consider this you guys should come along with them because they can speak English. And you guys can talk to them while lengthening. This journey is tough and you really need someone to talk to.
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Glad to hear you're doing pretty well. Congrats on your new height. :) Lol and at 18 you can just tell people you had a late growth spurt. Are you and your sister done legthening then?
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Ye, we both done. She actually done it before me. She's walking like normal now but will not let me take any video clip or anything like that because she doesn't feel comfortable and affaird someone will recognize her in real life.
But I will post my legs dont worry, i want to share with everyone. I feel like young people who didn't have much money like I did should also have a safe place to go if they want to do legs lengthening.
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Yeah, I'm around your age and I'm definitely interested in this doctor because of the price. I know some others who are interested too. Especially because the doctor does LON for such an affordable price and that will get you out of frames much faster than pure externals. How many days did you lengthen in total?
Looking forward to the video of you walking. I can understand where your sister is coming from.
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Yeah, I'm around your age and I'm definitely interested in this doctor because of the price. I know some others who are interested too. Especially because the doctor does LON for such an affordable price and that will get you out of frames much faster than pure externals. How many days did you lengthen in total?
Looking forward to the video of you walking. I can understand where your sister is coming from.
If you are around my age, you can turn 4 time per day like I did (1mm). So for 7cm it takes 70 days. But since the operation you will have to wait 15 days until you can turn. So total would be 85 days for 7cm.
But if you get hurt and worry you would get hurt, you should only turn 3 times per day (0.75mm/day). For this rate it will take about: 109 days for total. Include 15 days you have to wait until you can turn.
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If you are around my age, you can turn 4 time per day like I did (1mm). So for 7cm it takes 70 days. But since the operation you will have to wait 15 days until you can turn. So total would be 85 days for 7cm.
But if you get hurt and worry you would get hurt, you should only turn 3 times per day (0.75mm/day). For this rate it will take about: 109 days for total. Include 15 days you have to wait until you can turn.
Thanks for the info. :) I'm 19, almost 20 so hopefully I won't have too bad of a time lengthening. Hope I can go to Vietnam and check this place out early 2017.
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Thanks for the info. :) I'm 19, almost 20 so hopefully I won't have too bad of a time lengthening. Hope I can go to Vietnam and check this place out early 2017.
Goodluck with your journey hehe. If you do lengthening with him please post your diary here like i did as well so that people can also learn from your experient
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Is the 4 month private room included in the fee or is it extra? How much extra money do you think I should bring in case of complication? I'm definitely planning to post a diary whenever I start LL.
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Asian123 - Did you get off of frames ?
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You dont feel pain from using the shoe lifts right know.
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Is the 4 month private room included in the fee or is it extra? How much extra money do you think I should bring in case of complication? I'm definitely planning to post a diary whenever I start LL.
The 4 month private room is included in the fee. I'm looking forward to read your lengthening diary ;)
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Asian123 - Did you get off of frames ?
Ye I'm, now i'm better than ever. =)
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You dont feel pain from using the shoe lifts right know.
Not really, It is actually feel better to wear lifts because I have a bit of ballerina.
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I think you are mistaken? in your previous post, you said that the 4 month stays with accommodation will be an additional 5000 USD, which is on top of the 5000USD Leg lengthening. Here you are saying that the 4 month stay is included in the price... which is it?
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I think you are mistaken? in your previous post, you said that the 4 month stays with accommodation will be an additional 5000 USD, which is on top of the 5000USD Leg lengthening. Here you are saying that the 4 month stay is included in the price... which is it?
Hey sorry, maybe I make you guys confuse what I mean.
So 5500 usd for L.O.N
And for staying is another 5000 usd.
5500 USD just only for the 3 surgery and medicine and x-quang and stuff. Not include private room.
Sorry my bad. :D
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Is the 4 month private room included in the fee or is it extra? How much extra money do you think I should bring in case of complication? I'm definitely planning to post a diary whenever I start LL.
Hey sorry i got you the wrong answer,
So for the L.O.N the fee is 5500 USD
for Illazavor is 5000 USD
this fee is only for the surgery. Include all surgery fee and medicine and xquang hospital fee.
The private room and others convinence come in a package for 5000 USD
You can go back to my previous post to check what this 5000 USD include of. I think i post a quite long post about doctor and the insitute's information.
So for total, if you do L.O.N, I recommend you bring more than 10500 USD.
Maybe 14500 USD is what you should bring with you to cover if complication appear.
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So does your leg feel any heavier when you're walking around with the nail inside your bones?
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So does your leg feel any heavier when you're walking around with the nail inside your bones?
Actually, its lighter because the frames are heavy. About 2kg or something I guess. The nail make your knees feel tight. You will feel it inside your legs, like you know where is it inside you body but It won't hurt you.
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For some of you if you have infection on pin sites. You should drink centella asiatica smoothy. It helps heep with the infection and wound healing.
When i was in the insitute, they make me to dink a glass of it everyday to prevent infections.
It tastes like nothing so they normally mix it with sugar.
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Congratulations, awesome to see how life changing it was for you.
I have some questions, out of curiosity..
1) How much would you rate the average pain on 10, 0 being pre-op normality and 10 being pain that makes you wish you were dead?
2) Do people notice something odd regarding your proportions? 3" tibia lengthening + 3" heels is a lot of height for just the parts below the knee.
3) Is the average height of males there 5'4.5 or 5'7? I'm talking about your friends, social circles, etc. Google wasn't specific enough about India in the sense they take the average height of even malnourished people, and there are a lot of them and that skews the survey.
4) In your first post you said you'll do femur eventually too. Is that dream still alive or are you satisfied?
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Hello Asiann123, i was wondering if you had to pay extra for the physical therapy while you were there? or did you have your own physical therapist that helped you do leg lengthening exercises everyday throughout your lengthening process?
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Hello Asiann123, after consolidation (healing) is done can you leave the nails inside you? (to avoid the surgery)
I understand that you are in your own country, but do you happen to know if the doctors and nurses speak some English? Is it common to see foreigners doing this surgery?
Do you work on your recovery alone or with a physiotherapist?
Sorry for flooding you with questions ;D
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From what i've read, it is advise to remove the nails once your bone fully consolidate.. reason is that the nail can have an effect on your bone if left inside for too long. Your bone starts to weaken and something about you losing blood cells in places that supposed to be bone, but instead is now replaced with the nails.
I believe the doctors and nurses do speak some English. I have been in contact with them recently through emails, and all of our communications have been through english.
In regards to the physiotherapist, the doctor there told me that you need physical therapy throughout the lengthening process, they charge 20USD per session if you want their specific experience leg lengthening physical therapist (with 10 years of experience in leg lengthening therapy) to come visit your home and work with you through the physical therapy. Or you can pay for their all inclusive package which is 10,500 USD, where they cover your stay, meal, physical therapy, doctor access, medicine, x-ray fee or any sort of accommodation you need. This package is a 3 months deal.
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Hi Asiann123
Can you tell us about your current condition?
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Hello again,
Sorry guys for disappear in such a long period but i was enjoying new life so much that I almost forget my promise with u guys.
I'm currently perfect. I mean, I have some ballenrine, about 3cm but it is surely comming down due to what my physical therapist said, i need round 3 to 6 months post op to walk perfecly normal so I wont really push anything.
My experient from legs lengthening is you should never push your self too hard cause it will actually hurt your body. You just recover from one of the biggest operation so just let everything cool down in peace.
I once tried tô hard to get rid of the ballenrine foot and end up with some bad swelling on my legs which freak me out but its fine, with plenty of rest and right medication everything went back to normal again.
Again, please consider bringing your lift shoes with you cause you WILL NEED IT.
Here are pics that i take after when i first learn to walk again without frame.
This is 10 days after my surgery. I was wearing 5cm lift shoes to help with walking. Without it I couldn't even move.
http://m.imgur.com/QBLxrwy,l275oay
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Congratulations, awesome to see how life changing it was for you.
I have some questions, out of curiosity..
1) How much would you rate the average pain on 10, 0 being pre-op normality and 10 being pain that makes you wish you were dead?
2) Do people notice something odd regarding your proportions? 3" tibia lengthening + 3" heels is a lot of height for just the parts below the knee.
3) Is the average height of males there 5'4.5 or 5'7? I'm talking about your friends, social circles, etc. Google wasn't specific enough about India in the sense they take the average height of even malnourished people, and there are a lot of them and that skews the survey.
4) In your first post you said you'll do femur eventually too. Is that dream still alive or are you satisfied?
1 I dont understand it fully sorry but if you ask me about pain. I would say it is really bad like 10/10 for the very first day of my operation (frame on). I must to admit that I cried out loud for the first 3 or 4 days, but after that it is pretty much easy to handle. At 15 days its zero pain and at that point i didnt take any pain medication or sleeping pill. I just live with it and then i had my second operation.
The second period is when I take out the frame. 7/10 pain for the first night out of the operation room. When i wake up the next morning It was 4/10, still need few paracetamol pills (500mg) for every 6 hours for around 4 days and then done.
Nothing else aside those supplements and antibiotics for the rest of my recovery.
2. No, they just simply ask me why I came back from no where and look so tall and I give them some answer like puberty hit me hard before 18 hahaha and they actually believe it so no problem with that.
3 I'm a Vietnamese not an Indian but it is okay i' not offended haha, the average height for my country is god damn low thanks god. Its around 1m64 -> 1m73
4 I will do femur too. I'm going to do 6cm to 8cm.
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Hello Asiann123, i was wondering if you had to pay extra for the physical therapy while you were there? or did you have your own physical therapist that helped you do leg lengthening exercises everyday throughout your lengthening process?
Hey, if you pay full price. There will be a physical therapist to take care for your legs. I pay something like that because my mom want me to stay at the insitute so I have one everyday till the day i can walk without crutches.
They just increase their price because this year the tax things are real pain in the ass. I'm so sorry for the comming patients.
12600 for 8cm and 12000 for 6cm. But you will pay in Vietnam dong and due to the fact that dollar is going up i think you can save a couple hundred bucks.
Also they do cover complications with this package.
I'm so piss at them because why the website is not even up yet. Vietnamese are sooo lazy :))))). They don't know how hard it is without a website for international patients urgg
This is the full package including everything for international patients but if you just go there to do operate like a local, they chagre.
140.000.000 vnd for 8cm
And 120.000.000vnd for 6cm
This fee will cover
Xrays, operations (frame on frame off, nail remove)
Frames, nails.
Drugs
14 days stay in hospital
Following checks.
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Hello Asiann123, after consolidation (healing) is done can you leave the nails inside you? (to avoid the surgery)
I understand that you are in your own country, but do you happen to know if the doctors and nurses speak some English? Is it common to see foreigners doing this surgery?
Do you work on your recovery alone or with a physiotherapist?
Sorry for flooding you with questions ;D
Nope, the nails need to be removed after 1,5 to 2 years. When you come in for operation, there will be a translator to help you to talk with doctors for first few days. When your condition is okay, they will leave you a dictonary for request to communicate with nurse and helper.
Things like
Hurt, swelling, hungry, help me to go to toilet or sth will be on that dictionary. If you need futher, you can text the translate guy to show up and help you. He just not there everyday because its not really neccessory. A lot of oversea people. They have patients from everywhere.
I work with the physical therapist guys for about 4 months until i can walk without crutches then i stopped. You need him to help strech your calf muscle (i might spell wrong lol)
Otherwise you might end up with some reallll bad ballenrine foot
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Hey, the frames are actually 3kg each, i ask the doctor to keep it as a gift lolllll
After frames removal walking is soooo easy.
If you dont want ballenrine foot you can do 6cm. And go back to normal life like a cham.
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Hmmm there is a female patient who want to share her experience as well but she doesn't speak any english. Do you guys think i should post it on or not? If I make another thread for her story will I break the forum laws or sth?
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I think you can do it as far as you translate what she wants you to translate and don't say more than that
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Hey today I found my old pic. This is 7 days post op after my first surgery http://m.imgur.com/3zopji8
And this is frames off's surgery post op 12 days
http://m.imgur.com/x37Wu3M
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Hey Asiann123,
How is everything? are you recovering well? are you able to go back to your normal life without any problems? keep us updated.
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Hi,asiann123
Please tell me your wingspan, thank you.
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Hey Asiann123,
I hope you're still active in the forum. I just sent you a message. Please take a look at it and let me know
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With another 8CM of femoral lengthening, your proportions will be noticeably outside of the normal range - you are already at the upper limit proportionally of leg/body ratio with just your tibia which look incredibly long.
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Yo Asian, I have been interested doing limp lengthening too but it was too expensive since my first choice of doctor is in LA and total cost is 85K. I found your post I was surprised that in Vietnam offer limp lengthening. I'm fluent Vietnamese and I also did my eyes and hair implant in Vietnam and it was pretty cheap.Do you happen to know the address of the office or phone number of your doctor? Do you know any other doctor that do limp lengthening other the 2 you mention? cam on nha ban :) Do you have a private email where I can hit you up and talk?
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With another 8CM of femoral lengthening, your proportions will be noticeably outside of the normal range - you are already at the upper limit proportionally of leg/body ratio with just your tibia which look incredibly long.
I second this. If you do it and stand next to a natural 5'7.5 person, you will look worlds apart. Ultimately your choice.
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And he said he uses like 7 cm insoles so his Tibias must be in pain and look like apotheosis proportions.
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Hey Asiann123,
How is everything? are you recovering well? are you able to go back to your normal life without any problems? keep us updated.
I still have ballenrina foot. It is going down but still i have some. I cannot walk on bare foot. I can only walk with shoes lift on (about 3cm).
Anyway, I will slowly adjust it so that my feet will flat again soon.
I'm going back to uni and a friend told me that I walk a little bit weird I just told her i have motobike accident and they all believe it. I just took the frame out for like 4 months so I think in the long run (about more months) i can walk normal again.
No knee pain, no bent legs.
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Hi,asiann123
Please tell me your wingspan, thank you.
Hey sorry but I dont know my wingspan
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Hey Asiann123,
I hope you're still active in the forum. I just sent you a message. Please take a look at it and let me know
Hope you got my last email.
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With another 8CM of femoral lengthening, your proportions will be noticeably outside of the normal range - you are already at the upper limit proportionally of leg/body ratio with just your tibia which look incredibly long.
If I do femur, i will only go with 5cm or 6cm. My tibial look long because i wear short and I was losing a lot of weight doing this. When i put on normal clothes, it seem fine. No one comment about my extra long legs.
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Yo Asian, I have been interested doing limp lengthening too but it was too expensive since my first choice of doctor is in LA and total cost is 85K. I found your post I was surprised that in Vietnam offer limp lengthening. I'm fluent Vietnamese and I also did my eyes and hair implant in Vietnam and it was pretty cheap.Do you happen to know the address of the office or phone number of your doctor? Do you know any other doctor that do limp lengthening other the 2 you mention? cam on nha ban :) Do you have a private email where I can hit you up and talk?
I will inbox you.
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You should probably send your email to him in a personal message :P don't post it out here for the internet to see
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You should probably send your email to him in a personal message :P don't post it out here for the internet to see
My bad, thanks for pointing it out hehe.
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thank you bro, I will message you.
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hi there! I'm also vietnamese just done lengthening my tibia with dr.Linh in vietnam , after 3 months i still walk with ballerina and it so annoying since i need to get back to work but i can't atm. do you consider to get your tendon achilles surgery so the tendons are going to be stretched out to get yr heels touch down. if you have time, we should meet up and share your experience.
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hi there! I'm also vietnamese just done lengthening my tibia with dr.Linh in vietnam , after 3 months i still walk with ballerina and it so annoying since i need to get back to work but i can't atm. do you consider to get your tendon achilles surgery so the tendons are going to be stretched out to get yr heels touch down. if you have time, we should meet up and share your experience.
How many cm did you lengthening? Have you tried to wear lift shoes?
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6.5cm for both legs 158-165 , not yet, it is better to wear lift shoes? i still consider the tendon surgery to make it better. i think we were lengthening at the same time, maybe you guys a little early than i did. how is walking now? I'm still limping quite a bit
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6.5cm for both legs 158-165 , not yet, it is better to wear lift shoes? i still consider the tendon surgery to make it better. i think we were lengthening at the same time, maybe you guys a little early than i did. how is walking now? I'm still limping quite a bit
My sis lengthening about 6cm and she is doing fine. No ballenrine. I did 7 so I still have them. I wear 3cm lift everyday and it helps a lottt. I read a diary of an Indian guy who did 7,5cm. After 6months he still have some ballenrine. The trick here is that he also put lift inside his shoes and then he take a them out one by one (-1cm) until his feet are flat. I do what he did.
How much did u pay for your lengthening journey?
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idk the exact amount but around 10K USD. I have ballerina both of my legs bc during lengthening I did not have physical therapy, just lay there until the frame are removed, which is 2 months and 1 week, turned more than 3 turns a day that's why the tendon is stretch fast enough. Now I can walk around but with limping. Dr. Linh is not very caringl, he did not call to ask me how i am doing at all, if I know sooner, i could have done it with dr. Thuy. I talked to him before, he's very nice guy.
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idk the exact amount but around 10K USD. I have ballerina both of my legs bc during lengthening I did not have physical therapy, just lay there until the frame are removed, which is 2 months and 1 week, turned more than 3 turns a day that's why the tendon is stretch fast enough. Now I can walk around but with limping. Dr. Linh is not very caringl, he did not call to ask me how i am doing at all, if I know sooner, i could have done it with dr. Thuy. I talked to him before, he's very nice guy.
If you didn't excercise at all maybe you should call doctor Linh and let he do the tendon surgery. How bad is your legs? Can you walk without support? When you standing, how many cm from your highest point to the floor? That is expensive cause doctor Thuy and others doctor here in the hospital have the price for internationl patient. Which is 12600 include everything from room to food and physical therapy and complications
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i walk everywhere normal unsupported but limping maybe about 4-5 cm, not bad at all, i want to get the tendon surgery bc i want my heels to touch all the way to the ground flat so i don't have to deal with ballerina. yeah a little expensive, bc we went to have surgery at private hospital, everything very good service.
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i walk everywhere normal unsupported but limping maybe about 4-5 cm, not bad at all, i want to get the tendon surgery bc i want my heels to touch all the way to the ground flat so i don't have to deal with ballerina. yeah a little expensive, bc we went to have surgery at private hospital, everything very good service.
I've talked to a guy who did tendon surgery. He said that u have to wait for around 3 weeks then your feet are 90 degree again. If you want to get back to work as soon as possible then go for it.
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that is not bad at all, my body heals pretty quickly and i take some tumeric and aloe vera in pills make me heal very quickly. 3 weeks is better than 3 months or more with limping
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that is not bad at all, my body heals pretty quickly and i take some tumeric and aloe vera in pills make me heal very quickly. 3 weeks is better than 3 months or more with limping
Good luck bro. Wish u a speedy recovery.
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thanks, u too! I'll let you know when i can run :D
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Hi Asiann123,
So you started your journey May of 2016 and you weren't able to take the frames off until November of 2016? it took you 6 whole months to completely lengthen 7cm? i thought the lengthening process should have only taken 3-4 months?
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Hi Asiann123,
So you started your journey May of 2016 and you weren't able to take the frames off until November of 2016? it took you 6 whole months to completely lengthen 7cm? i thought the lengthening process should have only taken 3-4 months?
Hey I didn't do my surgery on May please check my dairy again. I began my journey on May. I travelled to Ha Noi to meet doctor Luong first but things are not worked out so I went back to HCM city. I did my surgery on nearly end of June and I take my frame off on October.
I take a bit long because the exact cm I lengthening is 7.4cm I can show you my x-ray. Also, I have one complication which hold me back a bit so I stopped lengthening for around 2 week. I also wrote that on my dairy.
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Hi Asiann123, I really admire your will and thoughtful thinking. I was going to join the journey but I m still considering so much. I really worry about pain and complications, that make me feel upset (those complications). Can I have your email via inbox, just want to be encouraged a bit from an experienced person. Maybe this is the luck of my life when I found this forum and found you a Vietnamese too. Thank you and wait for your reply!
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Hi Asiann123, I really admire your will and thoughtful thinking. I was going to join the journey but I m still considering so much. I really worry about pain and complications, that make me feel upset (those complications). Can I have your email via inbox, just want to be encouraged a bit from an experienced person. Maybe this is the luck of my life when I found this forum and found you a Vietnamese too. Thank you and wait for your reply!
Hey no problem. Ask me anything, when I haven't done this I also wish someone give me the courage and honest experience.
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Today is 9 months since my first surgery. Looking back, I have to say I hardly believe I can do it.
- My knees funtion are okay. No knees pain or whatsoever discomfort in knees area. My sis too
- My ballenrine is gone. Thanks god it is finally gone.
- I love my new height and would like to do femurs lengthening as well. But not now, maybe 2 -> 3 years.
- I still cannot run yet. I don't really enjoy running so it is no problem for me.
- I can climb stares
- I can go uphill, down hill no problem. Up hill is easier but down hill is not hard also.
- I can go swmiming
- I can carry stuff maximum 5kgs. I haven't tried to carry heavier because my bones are not fully healed
- People dont really notice about my new height.
100% back to normal activities.
I'm trying to update video clip but is it hard to update on youtube because it takes like forever to upload them so I just gave up. Any recommendation?
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Today is 9 months since my first surgery. Looking back, I have to say I hardly believe I can do it.
- My knees funtion are okay. No knees pain or whatsoever discomfort in knees area. My sis too
- My ballenrine is gone. Thanks god it is finally gone.
- I love my new height and would like to do femurs lengthening as well. But not now, maybe 2 -> 3 years.
- I still cannot run yet. I don't really enjoy running so it is no problem for me.
- I can climb stares
- I can go uphill, down hill no problem. Up hill is easier but down hill is not hard also.
- I can go swmiming
- I can carry stuff maximum 5kgs. I haven't tried to carry heavier because my bones are not fully healed
- People dont really notice about my new height.
100% back to normal activities.
I'm trying to update video clip but is it hard to update on youtube because it takes like forever to upload them so I just gave up. Any recommendation?
Wooow its a great news especially with the huge amount you lengthened. Now you can walk normally 100%? how you like your new height and people didn't notice that mean it will not help you socially, isn't it?
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Today is 9 months since my first surgery. Looking back, I have to say I hardly believe I can do it.
- My knees funtion are okay. No knees pain or whatsoever discomfort in knees area. My sis too
- My ballenrine is gone. Thanks god it is finally gone.
- I love my new height and would like to do femurs lengthening as well. But not now, maybe 2 -> 3 years.
- I still cannot run yet. I don't really enjoy running so it is no problem for me.
- I can climb stares
- I can go uphill, down hill no problem. Up hill is easier but down hill is not hard also.
- I can go swmiming
- I can carry stuff maximum 5kgs. I haven't tried to carry heavier because my bones are not fully healed
- People dont really notice about my new height.
100% back to normal activities.
I'm trying to update video clip but is it hard to update on youtube because it takes like forever to upload them so I just gave up. Any recommendation?
give it another 6 months, eat a lot of proteins and you will be fine. ;)
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Wooow its a great news especially with the huge amount you lengthened. Now you can walk normally 100%? how you like your new height and people didn't notice that mean it will not help you socially, isn't it?
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I like my new height a lot. For the first time in my life I can stand taller than my mom. The part where people are not really notice about my height is the close friend and family member. They didn't questioning about my new height.
Yeah I can walk 100% like a normal person, since I've been back to stuying and working, no one ever made a comment about my walking so I think I'm pass 100%.
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give it another 6 months, eat a lot of proteins and you will be fine. ;)
Thank you. I can feel that I'm getting better everyday so I'm in no rush for a 100% recovery. Hope in 6 months I can get back to my boxing classes.
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Hi Asiann123 Tell me how you're gonna please :-\ show me some pictures
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Hi Asiann123 Tell me how you're gonna please :-\ show me some pictures
Sorry but I dont understand what you mean. What kind of pic do you want me to send you? If you want pic of me walking or wearing frames you can go backward a few pages. I uploaded quite a few. Or you can send me private message and we can talk via email :) cheers.
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Ok my mail siosio075@gmail.com I have some questions : ***
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Ok my mail siosio075@gmail.com I have some questions : ***
Hey I already email you. Please check your mail box.
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Hello again everyone. Such a long time. Today I had a check up and I took x-rays. Will update my x-rays after nearly a year. Doctor said next year on Feb maybe I'll need to do the nails removal surgery in Ha Noi because they will move to Ha Noi. Looking back I think I would never have thought I could do this surgery but everything turn out better than expect.
I was expected to been through a lot of pain but now I dont even remember what it was like when on the frames. Guess I was just in lots of luck to find the right doctor. I dont regret a thing when undergo this surgery. The reward is overwhelme all the hard time. It is tottally worth it. I have more confident and dont feel like i'm useless because of my height.
And I will update the daiary as the process go on. Maybe I will update video clip when I can run or play boxing after the nails removal. But I'm in the middle of the thinking because I'm affarid that someone may recognize me in real life if I post the video public. Soooooo not sure yet but i will def post photos.
I also decided to do the scars removal so I will also post it on here so that you guys know what the outcome will be.
I get tired when people constantly ask me about the scars. I'm not good at making up story :(.
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http://imgur.com/a/rluq0
Left leg
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Right leg
http://imgur.com/a/aEI67
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Why are they moving to Hanoi?
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Why are they moving to Hanoi?
They told me that this surgery and the number of patients they have require at least 2 doctor but because this year another doctor from their hospital who is qualified for limb lengthening is also retired so they must move to Hanoi to co-operate with another doctor who is alo skilled in limb lengthening.
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Hi,
Pls check inbox
I wanna do LL myself. My height is same as your sister but am 10 years older. Have you known any women in that age do LL with your Dr?
How is your consolidation now?
Your diary make me feel more confident and believe in LL decision in next 2 years.
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Well there was another women in the hospital age 32 and has 2 kids and her outcome is as good as us so I dont think you will have any problem. If I remember correctly I she did 8.2.
For my consolidation you can check my X-ray I update it last post and I'm happy with it. I have scheduled for nails removal this Sep so I think things are going great. You can email me anytime and I will share everything I know :)
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Your encourage make me feel great happy. I wanna do LL with all my heart but my family doesn't think it's a good idea. I need to convince them that I will be alright with no long-tern effect after LL. I need to be totally confident before convince anyone.
The women you mentioned, what is she starting height? Whether she need to do Achilles tendon release to achieve 8.2 cm? I am crazy with the idea that I will taller 8 cm. How long does it take for people at my age for LL tibias 8 cm?
You said your sis has done 6 cm only, is she satisfy? Do people recognize her height changed? I feel scare that people discovery that I do LL, lol, it's incompatible myself. I want to be taller 8cm at the age of 33 but don't want people know I do LL , that such my stupid.
Anyway, congrats your success trip.
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Hey, man, please come back to the forums.
You mentioned you couldn't run. Do you think this will ever change?
How hard is it walk downhill and upstairs?
And what do you have to do to cure ballerina feet? Does it just go away over time, as long as you keep walking?
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Hey, man, please come back to the forums.
You mentioned you couldn't run. Do you think this will ever change?
How hard is it walk downhill and upstairs?
And what do you have to do to cure ballerina feet? Does it just go away over time, as long as you keep walking?
I can run now. A little bit but it is improve everyday so I think I will be back normal soon. It is very easy for me with the staires upwrad and downward and many others normal activities, no problem. Ballerina feet will go away if you practice hard during the lengthening phrase and the recovery phrase. I religiously pratice 1 or 2 hours everyday. Mostly standing and walking. But there are others excercise as well.
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Thank you, man.
I hope life keeps on improving for you.
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Also, you had mentioned you were walking or only being able to walk by using your lifts. Can you walk normally with flat shoes now?
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hello , asian
its been a long time since ur last post
how life after surgery? :)
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Also, you had mentioned you were walking or only being able to walk by using your lifts. Can you walk normally with flat shoes now?
Yeah I can walk normally now (without lift). But sometime I still wear lift to feel even higher because height is addicting mannn
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hello , asian
its been a long time since ur last post
how life after surgery? :)
Pretty awsome. Glad I did it. I'm consider doing 8cm in my femur internal only. Doctor Dinh Van Thuy has retired and doctor Dinh Van Quynh is now in charge. From what I heard he is quite decent. They are going to perform internal only by the start of 2019 (From the rumor I heard from the manager of the insititute). So i'm saving up now and hope i will have money when they make it official.
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Hi Asian123,
Are they currently offering precise internal leg lengthening on tibias? If so, do you know what is the price for surgery and accommodation?
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They won't offer internals until 2019.
This is the cost 25.000 USD -> 30.000 USD for a full package service (Includes everything, no hidden fee).
That info is straight from the doctor's assistant.
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Thank for the information. I will give them a visit in 2019 :).
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Hi Asiann123, so the cost for the internal ranges from 25k-30k? what about the external? is it still 12k for full boarding and 6k for if you have your own place to stay?
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Do you know what the price is currently?
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18.000 USD all in package for externals with accommodation
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In that case Serbia is a better option
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8cm?Can you post your recent walk video?I'm very worried about your health!