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Limb Lengthening Surgery => Limb Lengthening Patients Experiences => Topic started by: Morissette on September 01, 2016, 05:17:39 PM
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I will be writing a full log from my experience with Dr.Sarin from day 1 until I consider my self recovered feel free to ask me questions I will answer as best I can. Firstly let me tell you about myself. I'm 19 years old my height is 168cm I wish to add 9cm with this operation. I'm a personal trainer back home that being said I'm in excellent shape and more then ready to take on this challenge (I'm not looking for advice about length or doing 2 procedures such responses will be ignored). I had my consultation with Sarin August 27th we discussed how much I want to lengthen and he said 3inches shouldn't be a problem but if I need to stop beforehand I will.
I had surgery earlier today Sarin said surgery went very well I'm now in a hospital bed waiting to start the lengthening process. There is a little bit of pain in my left ankle hopefully it stops in a few days. I will try to update every time something new happens wish me luck:).
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good luck.
I know you said that you won't listen to advice on length but just listen to the 3 inch of your doc and from there see how you feel/how your body reacts. You still have time though.
Again, best of luck and have an easy lengthening
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Hi an good luck from me as well Morissette :)
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If my body can't take it or the pain is too much I will definitely stop before I would stop at 2cm if it's too much hopefully that won't be the case but we can only wait and see!:)
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The first night is incredibly painful but the nurse said the pain seises as the days go on luckily I can pain killers but I'm trying to use the least as I can so I endure a lot of it.
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Good luck man. I will follow your diary. I would like to know if Sarin has improved. He had very bad cases in the past but perhaps he has improved
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3 inches in tibias start being a lot of cm, do 7 cm, dont take such risks
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I did address some of his previous cases because I want to be able to walk again and return to my normal life if I didn't like his answers I would have walked out. But he said he performs 4 surgeries like this a month complications during surgery don't generally happen( my surgery only took 45minutes). Complications arise during the lengthening process people take shortcuts lengthen more a day then he told them too and then blame him. Also he said that people don't take the time to clean their pins very well which is extremely important health pin sites means healthy bones healthy bones means healthy blood. You must also do all excercises given to you to. I'm sure that he has in the past made mistakes during this operation but he has been doing this for over 20 years now he knows how to fix the problems and he won't charge you more. He hasn't hassled me about the payment he said he's in no rush my dad will take care of it once he goes back to Canada.
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3 inches in tibias start being a lot of cm, do 7 cm, dont take such risks
You do realize 7 cm is practically in the same ballpark as 3 inches right?...
OP: I have my opinions on Sarin: Last Doctor I would ever go to... Considering you've done it already I wish you luck and a safe journey. However, with that in mind... 3 inches on Tibia is far too much. It's too much risk. Do 5 cm only: it's substantial, and doesn't provide much risk on tibia.
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Well, yes do 2 inches like Alu said, I just say 7 because he really wants to push it. Half cm can make a difference in recovery too.
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The pain has gotten much more tolerable today the food in the hospital is pretty good as well. I haven't seen Sarin since surgery but I get checked up on regularly by nurses and other doctors I'm quite satisfied as of now. I'm not spending all this money on 5cm if I can achieve the full 9cm. 5cm technically isn't even 2" I'm doing this surgery once and then I'm moving on with my life it has been done many times before me I also have pharmaceutical Hgh medication waiting for me back home which will speed up the consolidation phase immensely. I truly appreciate everyone's concern with my safety but lengthening is very controlled and we can analyze day by day how my body is handling it. I will keep you all updated thank you:).
I'm very lucky to have the support of my parents throughout this "adventure".
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9cms?! So almost 4 inches on tibias?! There's no "moving on" and living your life if you've done irreparable damage, but glad you're going to decide as time passes. Just at least be open minded about it.
Good luck! :)
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You decided to to tibias, so I'm giving you the absolute best advice I can.. 5 CM ONLY! I know that sounds disappointing, but when you pass 5 CM on tibias there is absolutely zero going back. It's being proven time and time again that anything over 5 cm on Tibia greatly hampers your recovery years into the future. It's not to say it's impossible, or that you'll basically be a cripple... but you won't be anywhere close to where you were before and enjoying your new height will not be easy.
If you wanted the full 8 cm, you should have gone for the femurs... play it smart!
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Day 3 since surgery the pain is very tolerable I can move my legs side to side and up and down. The food isn't bad although it's vegetarian diet hopefully the guest house has better options. The staff is very friendly and will get you anything you need. I'm not wasting 20000$ to still be under the average height of my country. I think 9cm is too much but 3" shouldn't be a problem and if it is we will be able to tell and stop. It's been done before many times with full recoverys it all depends on you and your lifestyle. I believe I will be transferred over to the guest house working 7 days to begin lengthening. I'm barely taking any pain killers anymore and I can sleep just fine I will keep you posted.
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So i guess it's better to enjoy your height with mechanical problems or worse, on a wheelchair.
Rethink that.
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Give the guy a break. He is an adult (young one but still an adult). It's his legs and his responsibility.
Good luck buddy :)
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You're doing 9cm on tibias?? Well, then kiss your former healthy and active life goodbye. You won't recover to even nearly as 50-60%. The ones who say they have recovered to 100% doesn't even know of their own potential. These guys are happy they can walk.
I did 7cm with Dr Sarin from January to May in 2013. It's now been 3 years and 3 months since I left the guesthouse in India.
I can honestly tell you that I am crippled today to the point that I can not run if I don't prepare myself. I was going to catch the bus yesterday and saw it around the corner. Before my LL it was never any problems running to the station. I was fast as a cheetah and a professional sportsman. But I couldn't even start running because I've been walking too much that day.
It truly sucked just watching the bus drive away and I felt like an old man.
Don't pass 5-5,5cm. Your life will not be better with 9cm on your legs. You will also look totally weird. Everyone will notice your too long tibias. Your strides when walking will be way off from what is normal. Most likely you will end up with knee problems too.
Today I am 35 years old. I wish so bad that I've stopped at my planned 6cm. The numbers got to me and I thought 1cm wouldn't be much worse so that I could become 180cm.
Big mistake.
I'm positive I would have been much much better than I am today if only I've stopped at 6cm instead of 7cm.
I can barely jump at all. My legs got so weak that I developed X-legs which I suffer from every day. My tibias are too long and it's just not normal for the body when doing squats or anything else in the gym where you use your legs. The human is already perfect from the beginning. If anyone tries to alter that it never ends up in a good way.
I have some kind of pain EVERY DAY. I still need to take tramadol some days when it is extreme but mostly just aspirin.
I try to do heavy weight training in the gym but my ankles are still very stiff and have bad range of motion so it makes it very difficult. My X-legs gives me really trouble if I want to work out explosiveness in my legs. One time I was close to die just bc my knee sprung to the side and I fell down with 80kg above me.
The worse part is just that I can not run whenever I want to. And then the X-legs.
You will be much worse if you do 9cm. WAY WORSE!!
Stick to a maximum of 6cm, but preferable 5cm.
It's not about the money. It is about your life!!
If I would have done 7cm when I was 19 years old then everything I've done in sports would be all gone.
From now on you will never know for the rest of your life what you could have done in sports.
And yes, I have enjoyed many moments from being taller. The empowerment it has given me is priceless! I earn more now than ever before - but I will never know if it has anything to do with my surgery. Next year I hope to break the $100.000 a year barrier. After I'm done working this much I'm planning to go visit Dr Betz or Guichet so hopefully they can make me better than I am today.
Take care and stand up as much as you possibly can do - every day!
Give my best to Dr Sarin!
/Sweden
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Thank you! I'm writing this diary for people who are are planning to do the same and are curious as to how the process goes. I was very clear that I didn't wanna hear about how much I'm lengthening it's my choice I will be fine if you wanna spend thousands of dollars for 1" be my guest but let others decided for themselves. People have done 6"+ in one segment and have been fine. I've been to the guest house pre surgery and I met many people most of whom were Indian. One in particular was a professional cricket player in India who lengthen 4.5" a year later he was playing again he had returned to remove the LON nail.
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Sweden I have read up on your situation I've been lurking this site for a long time now I truly am sorry for how things turned out for you but you doing this at 32years old at was already a red flag. You need to be young to recover fully also I have gh back home if you know how good it is you would know I will be okay. 8cm is the MAX I would lengthen I'm not saying I will actually achieve this that's my goal but I'm more then prepared to stop before hand.
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My friend, it is your choice,but if you want 9 or 11 cm, you should do 4 segments, instead of two, believe me, you will be better than doing 9 cm in just two segments.
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Dr. Sarin does 30-40 of these surgerys a year for the past 20 years. There are maybe 7 diaries related to him some of which were successful. People are more likely to share their experience of they're angry and unsatisfied with their results, if everything went smoothly and recovery happened well it's easy to put it in the past and move on. You have convinced me that 9cm is too much but I'm not stopping at 5cm unless necessary.
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You're doing 9cm on tibias?? Well, then kiss your former healthy and active life goodbye. You won't recover to even nearly as 50-60%. The ones who say they have recovered to 100% doesn't even know of their own potential. These guys are happy they can walk.
I did 7cm with Dr Sarin from January to May in 2013. It's now been 3 years and 3 months since I left the guesthouse in India.
I can honestly tell you that I am crippled today to the point that I can not run if I don't prepare myself. I was going to catch the bus yesterday and saw it around the corner. Before my LL it was never any problems running to the station. I was fast as a cheetah and a professional sportsman. But I couldn't even start running because I've been walking too much that day.
It truly sucked just watching the bus drive away and I felt like an old man.
Don't pass 5-5,5cm. Your life will not be better with 9cm on your legs. You will also look totally weird. Everyone will notice your too long tibias. Your strides when walking will be way off from what is normal. Most likely you will end up with knee problems too.
Today I am 35 years old. I wish so bad that I've stopped at my planned 6cm. The numbers got to me and I thought 1cm wouldn't be much worse so that I could become 180cm.
Big mistake.
I'm positive I would have been much much better than I am today if only I've stopped at 6cm instead of 7cm.
I can barely jump at all. My legs got so weak that I developed X-legs which I suffer from every day. My tibias are too long and it's just not normal for the body when doing squats or anything else in the gym where you use your legs. The human is already perfect from the beginning. If anyone tries to alter that it never ends up in a good way.
I have some kind of pain EVERY DAY. I still need to take tramadol some days when it is extreme but mostly just aspirin.
I try to do heavy weight training in the gym but my ankles are still very stiff and have bad range of motion so it makes it very difficult. My X-legs gives me really trouble if I want to work out explosiveness in my legs. One time I was close to die just bc my knee sprung to the side and I fell down with 80kg above me.
The worse part is just that I can not run whenever I want to. And then the X-legs.
You will be much worse if you do 9cm. WAY WORSE!!
Stick to a maximum of 6cm, but preferable 5cm.
It's not about the money. It is about your life!!
If I would have done 7cm when I was 19 years old then everything I've done in sports would be all gone.
From now on you will never know for the rest of your life what you could have done in sports.
And yes, I have enjoyed many moments from being taller. The empowerment it has given me is priceless! I earn more now than ever before - but I will never know if it has anything to do with my surgery. Next year I hope to break the $100.000 a year barrier. After I'm done working this much I'm planning to go visit Dr Betz or Guichet so hopefully they can make me better than I am today.
Take care and stand up as much as you possibly can do - every day!
Give my best to Dr Sarin!
/Sweden
You need to do another ilizarov to fix the x-legs... But it would be nice if you could do a recap of how the added height changed your life for better or worse... What changed in terms of sociability, jobs, women etc... If it's all exaggerated in the forum or if it's real
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Dr. Sarin does 30-40 of these surgerys a year for the past 20 years. There are maybe 7 diaries related to him some of which were successful. People are more likely to share their experience of they're angry and unsatisfied with their results, if everything went smoothly and recovery happened well it's easy to put it in the past and move on. You have convinced me that 9cm is too much but I'm not stopping at 5cm unless necessary.
Do whatever you want it's your life.
But getting additional cm's for the price of basic life functions is just stupid. People only try to warn you.
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Sweden I have read up on your situation I've been lurking this site for a long time now I truly am sorry for how things turned out for you but you doing this at 32years old at was already a red flag. You need to be young to recover fully also I have gh back home if you know how good it is you would know I will be okay. 8cm is the MAX I would lengthen I'm not saying I will actually achieve this that's my goal but I'm more then prepared to stop before hand.
Age isn't a huge factor as people play it out to be. I know a guy who did it at 52 years old with Paley. He did all 4 segments for a total gain of 4.5 inches. And guess what? He's pretty much near 100%. Know why? He played it smart.
I'm done stating what I personally need to state. Good luck.
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Age is the biggest factor lol, age has everything to do with your hormone levels which is what heals you. Also why I have hgh waiting for me at home to greatly speed up consolidation phase. Maybe if I had 200k chillin in a bank account I would do the same but that's not the case I don't wish to put myself in debt for the rest of my life because US doctors are greedy. I started this diary because I wanted to help others decide wether or not they wanted to go through what I'm going through right now. I also thought I would get support and motivation from other members but so far I regret sharing my experience. Have a good life.
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I also thought I would get support and motivation from other members but so far I regret sharing my experience. Have a good life.
Good luck! :)
Good luck man. I will follow your diary. I would like to know if Sarin has improved. He had very bad cases in the past but perhaps he has improved
Take care and stand up as much as you possibly can do - every day!
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Age is the biggest factor lol, age has everything to do with your hormone levels which is what heals you. Also why I have hgh waiting for me at home to greatly speed up consolidation phase. Maybe if I had 200k chillin in a bank account I would do the same but that's not the case I don't wish to put myself in debt for the rest of my life because US doctors are greedy. I started this diary because I wanted to help others decide wether or not they wanted to go through what I'm going through right now. I also thought I would get support and motivation from other members but so far I regret sharing my experience. Have a good life.
Sometimes you get what you pay for. You want to do ridicilous amount of lengthening per segment(on tibias which have bigger limits), with Sarin who is well known of being one of the worst LL surgeons and on top of that you want to use HGH which will probably screw your endocrine system.
But you only see that some people DARE to disagree with you. We are not attacking but actually worrying about your future health, that's the difference between this forum and the old one.
So many people had their lives destroyed but people learn nothing.
Anyway, good luck with your journey, i hope you will be alright.
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Pain has fully stopped doctors are impressed by how much mobility I have regained in my legs already I'm still satisfied with the care they are providing for me my only complaint would be I haven't been able to speak to Dr.Sarin since surgery I presume he must be very busy hopefully I'll get too see him before I get sent over to the guest house. I'm almost off of all pain killers at this point and I will start lengthening on Monday. I will keep you posted!
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I have never met a bunch of whiners and complainers except on these damn LL forums. I have done two LLs. I personally know several people in their 20s that did 10 cm on tibiae and fully recovered. Dr. Sarin is a good doctor....the external tib operation is about as easy as they come for an LL doctor. Yes...3 inches is standard for how much one should lengthen on tibs...but several people have done more. You never go back to who you were...i dont care which doctor you go to (betz or otherwise...and I know several that went to betz). LL is what you make it...its about overcoming every obstacle thrown at you. height is worth it. If you cant get to 9cm...Sarin is going to stop you. Big thing is dont lay in bed all day...you have to stand as much as possible...or sit in a chair and get you feet flat on the ground as much as possible.
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It is impossible, for anyone in the world, to recover fully after doing 10cm. Stop saying these things.
You won't be able to jump normal again.
Do 9cm and take your HGH back home. Then show us some videos of when you're doing some jumping, running and quick turnings. I really hope you make it.
But the thing is - it's impossible.
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but 3" shouldn't be a problem and if it is we will be able to tell and stop. It's been done before many times with full recoverys
No. No. No. Listen to Sweden.
What "full recovery" means to a couch potato is going to be very different to a personal trainer. Again, listen to Sweden.
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I guess I will just have to prove everyone wrong. Explain to me how Sarin is a butcher. My surgery went extremely well took 45 minutes for both legs the rest is up to me I have to turn the dial to lengthen my legs I have to clean the pin sites I have to follow the physiotherapy Sarin did his job he's a very kind man I don't understand why people bash him. He hasn't hasselled me for a dime yet he says he's in no rush I would like to see if other doctors would operate before being paid I highly doubt it. Synthetic hgh is given to children everyday to help their growth, it is the healthiest hormone you could take synthetically thousands of older folks take it every day to make them feel young and refreshed. My endocrine system will only get boosted by the hgh because hgh effects everything even testosterone levels I know this because I took courses on the endocrine system. It's a fascinating subject you can accomplish just about anything with hormones.it stays in your blood stream for about 10-20 minutes does what it needs to do then it's gone. 3" in Tibias is very normal who the hell spends all that money for hardly any change? Anyways I'm done arguing I still welcome you to follow my story and see how it goes I understand that you aren't attacking me you're just worried but we're all gunna make it.
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Synthetic hgh is given to children everyday to help their growth, it is the healthiest hormone you could take synthetically thousands of older folks take it every day to make them feel young and refreshed. My endocrine system will only get boosted by the hgh because hgh effects everything even testosterone levels I know this because I took courses on the endocrine system.
What a horsecrap. Yes HGH is taken by kids WITH iGF-1 deficit.
There are just few examples of what HGH can do to you:
-Increased cancer risk
-Acromegaly
-Growing of internal organs
-Breaking hormonal balance which leads to thyroid issues
Even Rich Piana said that the worse thing he was taking than steroids was HGH.
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Age is the biggest factor lol, age has everything to do with your hormone levels which is what heals you.
Synthetic hgh is given to children everyday to help their growth, it is the healthiest hormone you could take synthetically thousands of older folks take it every day to make them feel young and refreshed. My endocrine system will only get boosted by the hgh because hgh effects everything even testosterone levels I know this because I took courses on the endocrine system. It's a fascinating subject you can accomplish just about anything with hormones.it stays in your blood stream for about 10-20 minutes does what it needs to do then it's gone.
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Why do you guys bother to argue with someone who says such things?
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You guys are hilarious just follow my progress and admire ;)
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Despite a lot of negativity on my diary I've gotten a lot of support through email which I'm grateful for I will keep updating you guys as truthfully as I can. My goal with this diary isn't to convince others to do the same this operation is no doubt not for the faint hearted and you have to TRULY want the height to put yourself through something this intense. I've never broken a bone in my life much less been in a hospital setting for this long away from home, no my goal with this diary is to help someone who was in my situation for months and in some cases years decide wether or not they should proceed. I'm not gunna lie even at 5'6 ive never had any problems getting girls all you need is a pretty face but to me it's about more then that it's about waking up in the morning with a smile on my face and not have to fake my confidence(which I've become an expert). It's about being able to go to the mall with friends and not constantly compare my height with others. Truthfully it's about own self image. Deciding to do LL is a very serious decision with its risks and should not be taken lightly every precaution should be taken before hand and after. If you want things to go smoothly you have to be young you have to be in tip top shape. You can't be obese, hypertensive, you can't be on a bunch of meds just to get through the day also if you're prone to illness and desease i would think twice about an operation that directly effects your bones. I wish you all the best of luck with your trials as you face an uphill battle but anything worth fighting for doesn't come easy.
Btw I have responded to every email I've received so if you haven't gotten an email back from me and you have some questions feel free to send me a msg on this site I will get back to you.
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I'm off of pretty much all pain meds doctors say I'm ahead of schedule I was suppose to head to the guest house Wednesday but they're sending me today I'm just waiting to get transferred over.
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Bro I agree. Everyone that wants a lot of height has not done limb lengthening lol
The ones who have all agree. lol
So i guess it's better to enjoy your height with mechanical problems or worse, on a wheelchair.
Rethink that.
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Guest house is great king sized bed my own bathroom and a patio. They give you food delivery apps I hundreds of restaurants to choose from a meal ranges from 100rupees to 300rupees
(1-2usd). First hour here another patient came in my room to introduce his self he was in the consolidation phase he actually lengthened both femur 6.5cm and Tibs 7.2cm AT THE SAME TIME. Took him 2.5 months to lengthen he's been recovering for 3 months.He has since corrected is ballerina and feels no pain in his legs. He can walk on his own he's leaving next week back home. A lot of Indian patients who don't speak English so I can't communicate with them. Anyways that guy told me last week there was another patient here who lengthen his Tibias 8.2cm with no complications and he walked out of the guest house. That being said Sweden doesn't know everything not everyone reacts the same listen to what your body is telling you and you will be fine. He also told me of another patient whom 2cm into lengthening got a very serious infection and so the doctors told him his max was 5cm. Dr.Sarin is not a butcher all he does is surgery the rest is up to chance.
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There is some pain on my left leg at the break area but only when I move my leg. I didn't sleep well lastnight because my right hip was in pain I'm not sure why but it has stopped since.
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I'm cheering for you, but listen to the experienced guys. You have an ideal outcome in your head, while they've actually been there, done it and understand that there are limitations. Be conservative and you're more likely to have a happy ending. Good luck!!
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You aren't really sane if you believe those stories.
Forget about it. 8cm in tibias will permanently affect you for the rest of your life. There is not ONE SINGLE PROOF of all these wonderful stories where everyone just walk out of there feeling excellent and happy.
Yes, he could stumble around by himself, so could I - but it takes several months before you can walk properly.
The guy will never be able to jump normal again and he can forget about sprinting. His legs will look very strange for the rest of his life but I bet he is happy anyway.
I feel good being 180cm instead of 173. I can run, but not as fast as before. It's a trade off you make.
I bet I can do much better than anyone I met in that guesthouse. Prove me wrong, let's have a run together.
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You aren't really sane if you believe those stories.
Forget about it. 8cm in tibias will permanently affect you for the rest of your life. There is not ONE SINGLE PROOF of all these wonderful stories where everyone just walk out of there feeling excellent and happy.
Yes, he could stumble around by himself, so could I - but it takes several months before you can walk properly.
The guy will never be able to jump normal again and he can forget about sprinting. His legs will look very strange for the rest of his life but I bet he is happy anyway.
I feel good being 180cm instead of 173. I can run, but not as fast as before. It's a trade off you make.
I bet I can do much better than anyone I met in that guesthouse. Prove me wrong, let's have a run together.
You are so caught up with trying to persuade yourself that's you didn't ale a mistake by going with Aaron (a well known butcher) and the fact that you never had your "broken foot" (misalignment) fixed that you can't possibly believe anyone's ever had a successful surgery. It's hilarious lol, and everyone on this forum knows.
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You are so caught up with trying to persuade yourself that's you didn't ale a mistake by going with Aaron (a well known butcher) and the fact that you never had your "broken foot" (misalignment) fixed that you can't possibly believe anyone's ever had a successful surgery. It's hilarious lol, and everyone on this forum knows.
And if you think going for 7-8cm at tibias without any drowbacks is possible then you are in absolute denial. Even people who weren't a Saren patient had complications(and really often, pretty huge one).
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Sweden I will prove you wrong full recovery is possible and I will do it I will be deadlifting 300lb like a used to I will be as fast as I used too. My legs are broken rn so I can't run but I welcome you to fly to Canada in two years time to come race lol. Sorry if you had a "bunk" recovery but many before you have recovered fully (even though you can seem to accept that)and many after will too. The guy wouldn't come in my room and lie about stories what's he's gain on that? In your mind nobody can have better results then you only inferior or equal we'll I'm sorry to say but you're not that special. How can you ever plan to make a full recovery with all that negativity. Law of attraction look it up now stop commenting negative things on my diary until it's over. If I don't make a full recovery feel free to say I told you and it will be my mistake but until then.
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btw, are you doing pure external or LATN?
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I'm doing LON. On another note I saw Dr. Sarin yesterday he came to see me at the guest house he said I would start lengthening on Saturday. My only complaint so far is the wifi. It sucks if you wanna go on the Internet and browse more then 1 page a minute you will have to get data or buy high speed internet. I have both the data comes out to be 169 rupees per GB and the wifi was 3570rupees 160Gb for 3 months. I have data because I will probably be here longer then 3 months. Oh and you have to pay for the water once you get here 200rupees for 12 bottles I'm gunna ask Sarin if that's true next time I see him but it looks to be.
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Sweden I will prove you wrong full recovery is possible and I will do it I will be deadlifting 300lb like a used to I will be as fast as I used too.
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I'm sorry but some statements on this forum recently....
You really think everything will go that easily? You either got deluded by Sarin or you really don't know what are you talking about.
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Deluded? No I prefer the term buoyant. Just wait and see:)
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Does anyone know how after getting frames removed doing LON that a person can develop club foot.
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The guy I spoke about earlier said his food was swelling closer to the end of his lengthening but it went away after a while when the frames were removed otherwise idk what club foot is.
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Club foot is where your feet turn inward towards each other.
The guy I spoke about earlier said his food was swelling closer to the end of his lengthening but it went away after a while when the frames were removed otherwise idk what club foot is.
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I done 6.5 with sarin and I am fine, but let me tell you something, I believe that 6.5 should be the maximum limit.
The reason I say that is because my calf muscles are extremely tight, if I lengthened more than 6.5 / 6.6 I can guarantee that i wouldn't of recovered aswell.
Lastly for the guys saying sarin is a butcher blah blah blah you don't know except for what you have read from other guys who also don't know , I used sarin and I'm fine. P.s sarin was also the one who told me to stop at 6.5 / 6.6 cm to avoid complications.
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The cost of surgery?
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I done 6.5 with sarin and I am fine, but let me tell you something, I believe that 6.5 should be the maximum limit.
The reason I say that is because my calf muscles are extremely tight, if I lengthened more than 6.5 / 6.6 I can guarantee that i wouldn't of recovered aswell.
Lastly for the guys saying sarin is a butcher blah blah blah you don't know crap except for what you have read from other guys who also don't know crap, I used sarin and I'm fine. P.s sarin was also the one who told me to stop at 6.5 / 6.6 cm to avoid complications.
In your past posts you wrote that you lengthened 4cm (just like your name implies...). You even went on to write that you were one of the few who lengthened below 6cm. How come now suddenly you say you did 6.5?
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This is a fake diary guys
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This is a fake diary guys
Not closed off to that idea... but what makes you say that?
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I dont think this diary is fake, but I am sure as hell that 4cm is not exactly saying 100% the truth
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hiiiii guys .........i am new member on LL Forumorum .....my height is 165cm ..... i am indian .......desperate to increase 6 cm . so can you guys suggest me to select my doctor ...........i am confused about two doctors dr t sringari and dr sarin..........please guys help me .
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hiiiii guys .........i am new member on LL Forumorum .....my height is 165cm ..... i am indian .......desperate to increase 6 cm . so can you guys suggest me to select my doctor ...........i am confused about two doctors dr t sringari and dr sarin..........please guys help me .
Parihar
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hello .......YourSpaceBoyfriend ...........due to some reason.......... i cant go to parihar.......i know parihar is good doctor ........if you know ....... then suggest me between sarin aand sringari.
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Lol I can assure you I'm not fake but if want to believe so be my guess doesn't change a damn thing in my life. I can't speak on Parihar or Sringaris behalf since you live in india it would be easy for you to get in contact with them, for me Sarin is the only one who took the time to take my calls. At first I had to call his office but eventually I got his private number which was nice. The cost was 15000usd includes surgery 10days stay at the hospital and 3 months stay at the guest house after it'll be 500$ a month. They took the bandages off my legs yesterday and I got the first real good look at my legs and let me tell you it's not for the faint hearted. We've all seen pictures but when it's your legs and you see all these metal rods going into your legs lets just say it'll take me a little to adjust lol.
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In your past posts you wrote that you lengthened 4cm (just like your name implies...). You even went on to write that you were one of the few who lengthened below 6cm. How come now suddenly you say you did 6.5?
You idiot lol I done around 6.5 and I wanted to do a further 4cms you fairy.
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You idiot lol I done around 6.5 and I wanted to do a further 4cms you fairy.
Here is a quote from you:
Trust me I have done it i only lengthened about 5.5 to 6 cms and my recovery was actually the quickest in the guest house.
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You also posted this in 2014 →
"I have already done 4cms 3 years ago with sarin and had no probelms . i will not be answering questions if anybody is thinking about that i am simply going to write a diary and detail if things go smoothly or not"
You're fudging the truth somewhere bud.
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Here is a quote from you:
Trust me I have done it i only lengthened about 5.5 to 6 cms and my recovery was actually the quickest in the guest house.
End of the day I ve done 6.6 cms as sarin and the x rays showed, if there's 4 cms written somewhere that's not what I ve lengthend it's 6 to 6.5 roughly.
4 cms Is what I wanted to do on femurs yea, now I couldn't give a flying fk about what you think, I don't think you have even done the surgery furthermore I know Sweden and I was actually there when he lengthened.
I hold more credibility than you buddy it's better If you listen to the guys who know what they're talking about.
Now if you haven't done the surgery you don't know jack full stop.
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Seems to me aswell that you have been on this forum more than you have actually done to enrich your life, learn from me, go do something for eg since I lengthened I have bought a house, got married, changed careers, bought a ducati and now enjoying life more than ever.
My suggestion to you is go do your leg lengthening and if you already have done it then what are you doing here analysing things from 2014 as you claim.
You either haven't done your lengthening and have no life or you have done your lengthening and still have no life.
Either way you have issues.
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End of the day I ve done 6.6 cms as sarin and the x rays showed, if there's 4 cms written somewhere that's not what I ve lengthend it's 6 to 6.5 roughly.
4 cms Is what I wanted to do on femurs yea, now I couldn't give a flying fk about what you think, I don't think you have even done the surgery furthermore I know Sweden and I was actually there when he lengthened.
I hold more credibility than you buddy it's better If you listen to the guys who know what they're talking about.
Now if you haven't done the surgery you don't know jack crap full stop.
Usually people who have done this surgery are less aggressive and less "compensating" because they cured themselves from their shortness (or as a gay guy who did it at Paley's said "got rid of their short-man character").
Seems you lack (or lacked) much more than a couple of inches
Btw, since you got on with your life (you did this LL thing like 6-7 years ago?) and have all the things you wished for, what are you doing here?
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Lol your antics mean nothing buddy you seem to lack intelligence and seem to not understand the meanings of the words you are using.
Often times a person who mentions compensating or insecurities is speaking from experience, it's ok you will get there there's hope at the end of the tunnel.
Keep fighting the good fight.
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Lol your antics mean nothing buddy you seem to lack intelligence and seem to not understand the meanings of the words you are using.
Often times a person who mentions compensating or insecurities is speaking from experience, it's ok you will get there there's hope at the end of the tunnel.
Keep fighting the good fight.
By your logic it means that you mention of "no life" earlier means you are the one who has no life no?
Funny thing is that you jumped on all threads defending Sarin and changing the amount you lengthened...
If you are indeed the guy from Encyclopedia Dramatica, and the stuff there about your education, views ,career are all true, than frankly, I am not suprised by the way you respond to critisism... If you truelly were happy and secure, you wouldnt give a fk but you sure do :)
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Lol dude you have 845 posts here compared to my 63 over 4 years , accept it you have no life and Leg lengthening hasn't or won't change anything for you.
I think it's all mental for you...... Keep on truckin you will get there if you persist, I believe in you.
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Lol dude you have 845 posts here compared to my 63 over 4 years , accept it you have no life and Leg lengthening hasn't or won't change anything for you.
I think it's all mental for you...... Keep on truckin you will get there if you persist, I believe in you.
<3
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/Vg0JstydL8HCg/giphy.gif)
LOL
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Lengthening starts today wish me luck ;D
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Luck :)
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They gave me these sandals with a strap built in the that you attach around the fixator device to keep your feet at a 90 degree angle. They say it's good to help ballerina.
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Anyone know why it's so hard to dorsiflex your ankle? I'm gunna presume it has something to do with the fact your anterior tibialis is weakened?
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Yea
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Remember your tibia has just been broken your dorsi flexion should be hindered because of the break proximaly.
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Today another patient ordered food for all of us Dr.Sarin came and a lot of the care takers as well. I started talking about this forum and how a lot of people here say Sarin is a butcher even though he's very experienced. Btw this is 100% to discredit Sweden and his none sense. Without even mentioning his name one of the care takers named Sarik or Sharik I'm not sure how it spelled said the only person to ever feel negative about Sarin was someone named "Sweden". Instantly I laughed and told him how he says I will be crippled and he told me so many stories of how he got in fights with other patients and even with himself. In the beginning Sweden asked Sharik well call him what his credibility was as a physiotherapist and he told him he had a 5 year degree in it. Sweden had the nerve to go on the make me taller forum and say that his physio had no degree. He brought his degree and showed Sweden who then deleted the post. I could go on and on but I think tomorrow I will just let him write some stories of his unpleasantness he knows the stories better then I do clearly if he remembers the guy. One last thing I will mention is Sweden came to get his surgery with an ankle fracture and never told Sarin. He also refused to do many of the exercises assigned to him which are critical to avoid complications. You have to be some kind of idiot to do his surgery with an ankle fracture no wonder he's recovery was but I bet he failed to mention that because he's a liar and undecent. Wether you chose to still blindly follow what Sweden says just because he has done it that's your problem but believe me when I tell you if you come to Sarin you're in excellent hands the staff is great just do what they tell you and be positive goodluck to all future LLers:).
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Oh and you wanna know why Sarin go removed from the recommended Drs list it's because the owner of make me taller site went to Sarin and asked he to pay him and he would bring him patients and Sarin said fk you. Sarin is a kind and caring man he knows what he's doing and these surgerys are his entire life it's what he does. He remembered you too 4cm I just mentioned your forum name and he was like oh yea he might come back to do 4cm on his femur he believes you were Australian but can't remember 100% lol.
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Why'd he make the deal in the first place then? Bailing on an immoral deal that went sour doesn't make you a good person.
And keep strong with your LL. :)
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hiiii Morissette......how are you ?..........hows your pain levels ? :-\
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You are being told lies Morissette and you believe them blindly. Good luck with that.
I was in top absolute great shape when I arrived for the surgery. Nothing was broken.
I was a professional athlete before this.
Nothing is erased from my diary in old forum , at least not by me.
I never got to see any diploma from Sharik. Physios in India doesn't have a clue of what they're doing.
I've been to the best physios around entire Europe and we had our own physio before in our national team. I know what I'm talking about.
I never trash talked Dr sarin. He was kind and caring when I was his patient. He is also right about the Australian Guy.
You are only told rumors from 2013 that nobody knows about except me and my room mate. I have it on video when the siblings, who wanted limb shortening, from next door started an argument. In the video you can see the guy approach me while I'm in bed in frames and rise his fist at me. That was it. Then he backed off. And then they stayed to argue over some stupid rumors they overheard that my room mate told about then. Which he never did.
All of the rumors and bull talk by low lifes like you Morissette make Dr Sarin's guesthouse seem like to other people. YOU are the one who ruins Dr Sarin's wonderful idea about helping other reach their life goals.
People doesn't come to Dr Sarin because of people like YOU Morissette.
There will never be any form of quality in this diary. You only focus on trash talking people and tell off veterans who did what you are doing right now 3 years ago and therefore KNOW what it's all about.
Your life was before this journey you are making and it will be for many years when you get back home. You'll be in for a very big surprise!
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Hello ajay my pain levels have gone down quite a bit now my legs have healed from the surgery and I can move around a lot better of course there is still some pain involved with this entire surgery it's very intensive but it's quite manageable. Sweden you have lost my respect and any credibility you had before hand. Save your breath because I won't even bother reading what you write anymore. Good luck with your miserable life of negativity thinking you're an expert on everything. Even 4cm said everyone knew you had a broken foot which was obviously not true but he knew you had some type of injury and he was here when you were.
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I had ACL rupture you stupid moron. It doesn't affect LL.
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It effects recovery lol and idc what you had you failed to tell your dr and bad things happened to you big surprise relax with the name calling try acting your age.
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What's with the lies? You don't know anything about what you're talking about. You're posting rubbish and confuse everyone reading to collect wisdom about this. You need to be banned, seriously.
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Settle down Sweden you've been exposed I'm actually relieved I'm almost half believed you at one point ;D. And now that I think about one of your other posts really? Even if what you had was an ACL rupture you don't think LL will affect it? Just so you know your ACL is located right square middle of the knee and is a crucial part of having a healthy moving knee. Movement at the knee is important for physio and to avoid complication. And you wanna ban me? Why wouldn't you want people too see you're right once I'm finished with this lengthening? I think it's more you being scared that I'm telling the truth but anyways my diary was supposed to be informative for other potential LLers and it will continue to be if any complications arise the forum will know and I will keep posting until I feel I have recovered well enough to move on with my life.
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Yes. I'm exposed. I never did LL. My entire diary is complete fake.
CHRIST you're ignorant. You don't know anything about ACL rupture. This is a whole new level of stupidity.
Good luck.
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Why'd he make the deal in the first place then? Bailing on an immoral deal that went sour doesn't make you a good person.
Making deals with apo, creating fake diaries and accounts. Even Paley said that he had many Sarin patients coming to him because he screwed them up.
I had ACL rupture you stupid moron. It doesn't affect LL.
Don't try to talk him off, he is in total denial.
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God I ****ing love this forum keeps me entertained while I lay here bored out of my mind you two are just great keep on keeping on fellas 😂.
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In the beginning Sweden asked Sharik well call him what his credibility was as a physiotherapist and he told him he had a 5 year degree in it.
really curious to know which college/university is providing 5 year physiotherapy degree program in India, normally these courses are only for 4 year duration.
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I don't really follow how schooling works in India but Google is a wonderful tool for such things. Maybe he took extra courses or specialized in something I don't really know. Well I'm officially 2mm taller I thought lengthening would be painful but so far I can't feel a damn thing. Still getting used to seeing all the metal rods go into my legs though it's slightly terrifying at first. My only advice so far if you do this is around the pin site areas there will by what looks to be dried up blood do not I repeat do not pick it off it is extremely painful and provides some protection when you do physio.
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I just want to stress to all future LLers how important it is for you to follow any and all physio that is assigned to you. Yes it is painful but it will make recovery so much easier and help avoid complications. If you read the start of the diary you might have seen when I mentioned another patient here who lengthened both segments. He himself didn't do all physio assigned to him because it was really painful he said. He regrets not having done it all because he had to fight with ballerina for quite some time instead of being able to focus on his walking. He told me that another guy was here who did 8.2cm in his Tibias and did all the physio assigned no matter what multiple times a day. Sometimes he would come to his room and see the guy on the ground exercising. A really painful but effective way here that they combat ballerina while lengthening is put dumbbell weights on your knee too losen up your calves. The guy did that every day and never got ballerina 2 months later he was walking normally.
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I don't really follow how schooling works in India but Google is a wonderful tool for such things. Maybe he took extra courses or specialized in something I don't really know. Well I'm officially 2mm taller I thought lengthening would be painful but so far I can't feel a damn thing. Still getting used to seeing all the metal rods go into my legs though it's slightly terrifying at first. My only advice so far if you do this is around the pin site areas there will by what looks to be dried up blood do not I repeat do not pick it off it is extremely painful and provides some protection when you do physio.
all your messages are so funny
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What's life without a little sense of humour 🤓
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I just want to stress to all future LLers how important it is for you to follow any and all physio that is assigned to you. Yes it is painful but it will make recovery so much easier and help avoid complications. If you read the start of the diary you might have seen when I mentioned another patient here who lengthened both segments. He himself didn't do all physio assigned to him because it was really painful he said. He regrets not having done it all because he had to fight with ballerina for quite some time instead of being able to focus on his walking. He told me that another guy was here who did 8.2cm in his Tibias and did all the physio assigned no matter what multiple times a day. Sometimes he would come to his room and see the guy on the ground exercising. A really painful but effective way here that they combat ballerina while lengthening is put dumbbell weights on your knee too losen up your calves. The guy did that every day and never got ballerina 2 months later he was walking normally.
You seem like you know more about patients that have done this years ago than you should. One of the many clues that this is a fake diary. This thread is bull and you're not even making an effort to make your lie more believable. It's actually a little insutling
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You seem like you know more about patients that have done this years ago than you should. One of the many clues that this is a fake diary. This thread is bullcrap and you're not even making an effort to make your lie more believable. It's actually a little insutling
This is exactly what I thought of the diary...a bloody fake.
And in my mind at least, the words "Fake" and "Dr. Sarin" go hand in hand.
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This user was active here a few months before this diary was started so I don't know. It does seem strange that when I asked from Sarin some contacts, he said he doesnt remember any personal patient name by name or whatever yet in this case he remembers Sweden and 4cm even by their usernames...
Also, the 45 minutes does sound far fetched.. Anesthesia, braking the bone, constructing the frame... These things take time.
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Every surgery takes about 3 hours.
Morissette is an idiot and can't help that everything he does online turns to nonsense. He is just stupid.
They don't study 4-5 years in India to be a Physio therapist. None of them know anything of importance regarding leg lengthening. They do idiotic exercises that doesn't help at all and stretches muscles they don't know why even.
Forget about the physios and try to stand up as much as possible. Use the crutches to lift your legs every day. Eat lots of garlic and coconut oil, vegetables and chicken too.
Try to use the sandals during the night. Keep an eye on your thigh muscles bc that's the one that turns the femur inwards if it disappears.
The tibia can't rotate, it's fixated in the ilizarov frame.
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Keep an eye on your thigh muscles bc that's the one that turns the femur inwards if it disappears.
Hey Sweden. Can you explain that a little more, please?
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They don't study 4-5 years in India to be a Physio therapist. None of them know anything of importance regarding leg lengthening. They do idiotic exercises that doesn't help at all and stretches muscles they don't know why even.
I guess you do not know anything about how medical system works in India.
All the medical practitioners including physios (who needs 4 year degree) should be qualified and need to be registered with the government, they do a thorugh check of credentials before registering them.
medical practice without proper registration is illegal in India and also a criminal offence as they can even get charged for murder.
You probably might have met with some quack physio in India.
this is for your reference http://www.dcptot.com/reg_practitioner.asp
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Surgery itself took about 45minutes with prep and everything the total time was more then 45 minutes I'm very real and the patients I'm talking to you about were here last month I'm sharing stories shared to me by another patient here. You guys have an extremely harsh prejudice against Sarin and I don't understand. Either way this forum is so incredibly hostile must be all the depression and anger why can't we all just be friends 😘. I have mock photos on here from like 4-5 months ago go take a look I'm real lmao. Someone wanna explain to me how to post a video on here always says file full and imgur doesn't take videos. And lol don't stand while lengthening causes the new bone to compress and you lose height why the hell would you wanna endure this longer.
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Someone wanna explain to me how to post a video on here always says file full and imgur doesn't take videos.
Easiest way is just upload to youtube as an unlisted video and paste the link inside a forum post wrapped in [ youtube] [ /youtube ] tags.
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Thank you!! I hope this is enough to satisfy you savages. Ub40 did I uninsult you or what I'm Canadian we don't insult people we just play Hockey ;) https://youtu.be/BevN9c9BzLQ
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Sweden just for you http://www.forwardtherapy.se/tag/anger-management/. Get well soon friend I wanna see you being positive instead of all this anger stress is bad for the body.
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Sweden just for you http://www.forwardtherapy.se/tag/anger-management/. Get well soon friend I wanna see you being positive instead of all this anger stress is bad for the body.
You're not really inspiring any sort of sympathy for your diary with how petty you're starting to be...
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I'm not looking for sympathy I was trying to help others with an honest diary about my experience then I started to get called delusional and being told I'm going to pretty much end up crippled and called names. So I'll be back when I've finished lengthening to let everyone know how much I did and I will be back another time when I can walk normally. If anyone have any real questions about the surgery that they wish to ask me pm me because unfortunately my diary is not very informative mostly just ppl bickering at me have a fabulous day and good luck to future LLers :).
Ps don't lengthen to fast at a time it burns little turns at a time throughout the day is much better. I expect to be done lengthening in 9weeks and 6 days from today.
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Ever wonder why everyone is picking on you?
Hmmmmmm, could it be bc everything you say is either lies, nonsense or misleading others who want to do this?
Let me guess, the Physio let you sit on the side of the bed and presses your knees down so your heels will come down to prevent ballerina?
Idiots.
How is that different from standing up - with a walker of course??
You should stand, every day! The physios doesn't know , even if they'd studied 4 years.
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I have been getting a lot of Pms so I've decided to make a quick update tomorrow I will have my 1st cm. The days go by slow here I didn't come well prepared to keep myself occupied so I bought some books on my phone. There isn't usually much pain in my legs most of the time but sometimes 20-30 minutes after I lengthened it hurts a lot in the middle of my tibia but the pain ceases within the hour. I won't lie it is increadibly uncomfortable to have these on your legs all day every day sleeping doesn't come as easy as it used too. My legs mostly just feel very tight most of the day but it is tolerable. No complications yet although I've just started hoping for the best.
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Do you think someone has really proportions for a quadrilateral lengthening of 10 cm, 6 femur+4 tibia, with a year of distance. Beacuse I am concerned about the relation of my femur length to tibia. Morissete, good luck with your goal.
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There is a big difference between putting 15lb Dumbbells on your knees to fight ballerina vs holding your entire body weight I don't think I have to do the math for you. And I and its hard to say you would have to figure out your proportions before hand and do some math. Everyones proportions are different but I think 6+4 would keep your legs well proportioned it's more a question of wether or not your torso is long enough. In most cases we shorties have short legs and longer torsos so it works out nicely.
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In most cases we shorties have short legs and longer torsos so it works out nicely.
haha please stop fooling yourself and be realistic :D In most cases shorties ''dont'' have short legs and longer torsos people mostly come to world with a proportioned body(of course there are exceptions and they are not so common but they exist.)
People just come to forum and be like ''hey guys im 165(or 170) and i have very short legs so LL will make my proportions much better.''
LOL you dont have ''short'' legs compared to rest of your body...You are just short alredy!
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Well height to inseam ratio is a good measurement to judge if someone has short or long legs.
But i agree a lot of people exaggerate that they have short legs when in real life they are just average for their height.
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haha please stop fooling yourself and be realistic :D In most cases shorties ''dont'' have short legs and longer torsos people mostly come to world with a proportioned body(of course there are exceptions and they are not so common but they exist.)
People just come to forum and be like ''hey guys im 165(or 170) and i have very short legs so LL will make my proportions much better.''
LOL you dont have ''short'' legs compared to rest of your body...You are just short alredy!
Actually, judging by the pics this guy posted a few months ago in the proportion thread, he has really really short tibias... His tibia LL will actually improve his proportions... But yeah... Most people are well proportioned to a degree but in varies... I am a 5'7 with 27-28 inseam
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I posted on the forum a few months ago asking everyone's sitting height. My sitting height is 91cm at 168cm and people said that was relatively short torso people were saying they had 92-93cm+ sitting height and they were shorter then me. Either way to me longer legs looks better I guess it's all just how you interpret proportions yourself. You should only be trying to please yourself by doing this surgery if you're trying to please everyone you'll never be happy.
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I don't know if your honest or not but don't listen to the negativity you did the surgery for yourself, not for the approval of others. I have my feelings about Sarin but you have already gone beyond the point of return, you have to focus on recovery. I would advice to stop lengthening when your body is telling you to stop and not until you reach 3 inches.
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Thanks bander and that is the plan I will stop when my body tells me to stop
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Actually, judging by the pics this guy posted a few months ago in the proportion thread, he has really really short tibias... His tibia LL will actually improve his proportions... But yeah... Most people are well proportioned to a degree but in varies... I am a 5'7 with 27-28 inseam
uhm i really dont agree that,if we think that he is 168 and look at his proportion pics,i cant see anything anormal.They are just normal sized tibias..
and morissette,im not trying to attack you or offend you in anyway.I really dont.Please be careful and listen other veterans advices.(like sweeden,he is very realistic and knows so much about this whole thing.)
I hope you dont regret your decision later.I wish you a good recovery.
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Thank you Peaceout I am more then willing to stop before hand 8cm would just be the "dream" I guess you could put it. Now proportion wise according to my x-rays my femur is 17" and my tibia is 11". That makes a 6" difference in length I too agree that by just looking at my proportions picture my legs still look fairly proportionate. Now if we were to get all technical the average difference between the two would be 4" so if by some miracle I did get the 3" I was after I would still be very close to the average if I don't reach the 3" my proportions would essentially be almost perfect. I was lucky in my height dilemma that my proportions turned out this way although I'll admit even if they weren't like this it wouldn't have stopped me from doing the surgery.
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I dont know... Morissette has the shortest pre op tibias I have ever seen. I only saw one or two people like that naturally in the gym or the streets during summer. Again, this is a plus for Morissette as it means that after surgery his proportions would actually look better (in my opinion).
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I agree tibike I was lucky in that sense my Tibias are 3" shorter then the average which is still small for my current height
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Quick update, lastnight was the worst sleep I've ever had not because of pain but my legs were so damn itchy the whole night I scratched at the for over an hour with no hope. The pain I get makes me feel like a 10 year old again feels like growing pains in my Tibias lol. This morning I was minding my own business eating some toast with jam on my bed and this bug came crawling out of between my mattress and bedframe. Before I had time to kill it it crawled back. I tried to find it but I can't so now I have a rogue bug in my room somewhere.
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Pain will go, just be careful, if you feel too much pain at 7 cm you should stop.
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Couldn't agree more if the pain becomes to much that's my body telling me to stop so far it's quite bare able just annoying. I seem to be fine all day long but always seems to hit the fan when I try to sleep I used to like sleeping not so much anymore lol.
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hey Morissette.............can you please post some pictures of your frames....... :D
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Sure! Lemme just figure out how to post pictures on here again might take a minute lol
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https://imgur.com/a/OwRWt
My legs have seemed to lose the most amount of weight the quickest, I also just got the staples removed out of my legs 2 minutes before taking these pictures those are the random scars you see.
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awesome scars
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Scars happen they'll fade away they're minor it was just staples to let my skin heal post surgery
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This morning I was minding my own business eating some toast with jam on my bed and this bug came crawling out of between my mattress and bedframe. Before I had time to kill it it crawled back. I tried to find it but I can't so now I have a rogue bug in my room somewhere.
This reminds me of when a huge spider started crawling up the wall near my bed and I got really nervous because I was in quite a bit of discomfort and couldn't move all that fast if it came toward me. I called room service and had them take care of it. Is there a designated bug killer over there? lol
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Oh my goodness spiders I would lose my mind mine was just a mini ckroach looking thing 🙈. I don't think there is I tried hunting for the bug a little moving my mattress and stuff but no luck so I'm just gunna pretend like he doesn't exist haha. Hopefully he torments someone else.
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dam most of us in the west will be in terror then seeing giant Spiders
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Physio is getting more bearable as the days go on. The feeling of everything in my lower leg being tight is also going away the more I stretch.
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I just came back from the hospital to get X-rays and something very strange happened. So far I have turned to lengthening 1.35cm but the X-ray shows that my left leg has lengthened 1.65cm and my right leg has lengthened 1.42cm. I'm not complaining but if anyone care to shed a little wisdom on this you would be more then welcomed. Up until today I had started to question myself on wether this was really worth it but there's something so increadibly satisfying knowing that I'm on my way. Long story short yes it is worth it.
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Just in quick response to what you posted in the proportions thread.
1) There are some flawed basis you posted which I'm not even going to get into because I know for a fact you really wouldn't listen too.
However, there is something I want you to listen too...
2)If you're still going ahead and doing all that ridiculous amount of lengthening in the tibia understand you will have a very hard recovery process AND future lenthening you could have done in the femurs will be gone. You would look ridiculous if you added any more in the femurs.
Lastly, when it comes to recovery, your bones may heal, you may get rid of the lengthening muscle discomfort, but that doesn't mean you'll be fine (or anywhere close to 100%). Take this analogy: http://www.limblengtheningforum.com/index.php?topic=1584.msg51535#msg51535
That's all
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I've officially turned for 2cm. The pain is minimal now I can bend my knees and lift my legs no problem. Physio is still a pain when I stretch but necessary, I still have good mobility in my toes and so far ballerina has stayed clear. I believe I will get my next X-rays in a few days. This whole experience has been quite boring I recommend for any future LLers bring lots of books,games,movies whatever you can think of to kill time. You can only eat up so much time with exercises.
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On another note if ever the pain was too much I would slow down the rate of lengthening but so far it's quite manageable. It's not painless but it feels like growing pains usually stops within the hour, sleep is still difficult but easier the increased mobility in my legs allows me to sleep on my side. Not as comfortable as before of course but sometimes it's a nice change over being on my back all day everyday.
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Good luck dude, you're 5'7. An entire inch of gain has to be motivating.
Edit: Well..2cm =/= an inch but you were a bit higher than 5'6 so..5'7.
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Thanks penguin:) it's quite motivating hope the rest goes as smoothly!
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Hey Morisette! Which pain meds is Sarin giving you? Can you tell me the name of the meds?
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I have ultracet if for mild pain and I also have Mobizox incase I get really bad pains. I rarely take either if I do it's usually before bed otherwise I usually endure the pain.
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Day 30 being stuck in bed. Really should have brought more things to do recently started playing a game called civilization 5 on my laptop quite entertaining to say the least. I've lost a lot of muscle on my legs and upper body. Before leaving to India I was 168cm and I weighed 160lb after India I'll be around 176cm weighing around 140lb very strange but that's what I expected being stuck in bed all day long lol. Pain is still minimal I've started to notice that I only ever get pain in my left leg. Ive never talked about the rate of which I lengthen. I do 1mm a day and every 4th day 1.5mm, another patient that was here recommended I do that and slow down if the pain was too much. The scars I had in the pictures I posted are already fading very happy about that.
A guy that works at the hotel frequently goes out to buy me fruits and vegetables otherwise they would be greatly lacking in my diet today he went out to get my apples,bananas,grapes,carrots and cucumber. One thing that I really miss is beef. How good does a nice sirloin steak sound right about now.
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How have your dealings with sarin been. Is he vising you often?
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He comes to see me every almost every week I would say. He just asks me how I'm doing if I have any questions he will answer them otherwise he goes to see his other patients. His assistant comes to check on me every 2nd day and I also see the physio everyday.
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hiiii Morissette ......how are you ? ..............how many patients are in guest house ?...............actually i am confused between dr sarin and dr sringari ............i want to do 6 cm..............but i am little confused about full atheltic ability .
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Hello ajay there's currently 7 people at the guest house 3 guys including me and 4 girls. So far my experience with Sarin has been very positive I'm confident I'm in good has no complication as of yet. I've passed the 3cm mark nowhere close to ballerina. I dorsiflex my ankle on two flip flops stacked multiple times a day and my heel still touches the ground. I can't speak on dr Sringaris behalf as I never met him and didn't look into him as much but definitely take the time meet with both ask questions and go with your gut feeling. Full recovery doesn't seem to be an issue here although it will take longer then a year from what I understand. I can't vouch for it as I'm still far away from that stage anyways I hope you the best of luck in your LL maybe I'll see you at the guest:)!
Ps- From what I understand dr Parihar I believe his name is is also a much worth dr to go consult
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hiiii Morissette ......how are you ? ..............how many patients are in guest house ?...............actually i am confused between dr sarin and dr sringari ............i want to do 6 cm..............but i am little confused about full atheltic ability .
with externals say good bye to the athletic ability
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with externals say good bye to the athletic ability
Lmao.
Since when method used decide about your post-LL athletic abilities? Tbh if i would lengthen my tibias i would go for the external to avoid permament knee pain.
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Lmao.
Since when method used decide about your post-LL athletic abilities? Tbh if i would lengthen my tibias i would go for the external to avoid permament knee pain.
Paley and Guichet agreed that External have more complication rate, more worst scenario came from externals method. Maybe because its done with a bad doctors its a possibility.
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I also wanted to avoid knee pain so internals weren't an option for me since my femurs are already much longer then my tibias.
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I also wanted to avoid knee pain so internals weren't an option for me since my femurs are already much longer then my tibias.
the only thing make this surgery more difficult is proportions myth. 6-7 cm will not do anything with someone's proportion, unless his femur is looooong and out of nature
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Right now my proportions are still fine but if I were too add another 2" to them and nothing to my tibs there would be an 8" difference which would look a little goofy
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with externals say good bye to the athletic ability
That makes no sense, externals are less invasive
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i asked many doctors about permanent knee pain ...................permanent knee pain is caused when doctor insert nail into the tibia .............but 95% of patients are not having knee pain.............In some patients if it happens it will go away after 6 months or after removing the nail ..............but there is very little chance if it remain permanent.........but the reason is unknown. >:(
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Good to know!
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i asked many doctors about permanent knee pain ...................permanent knee pain is caused when doctor insert nail into the tibia .............but 95% of patients are not having knee pain.............In some patients if it happens it will go away after 6 months or after removing the nail ..............but there is very little chance if it remain permanent.........but the reason is unknown. >:(
thats mean external better for tibia and internal for femurs?
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yes ............but it depends on person .....if he could wear the frames for 12 months................According to me if person wears frames for full year ............that makes him depressd .........and he could not walk for 12months ........having problem to get enough sleep..........in this way we make LL very difficult............................If we chose LON (lengthening our nail)...........its recovery is fast .........if we do 6 cm we will start walk after 6 months without crutchs and we get comfortable sleep after frame removal which is around 3 months ...............but one disadvantage of knee pain..............but the chance is very little .......around 2% to 3 %.............................and one thing........ LL is one of most difficult task and main thing in this task is our mental strength. ; :D :D
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A little disappointed today I was supposed to get screws that you turn to lengthen replaced today as I maxed out the available length and it didn't happen. I know it's only a day of downtime but I have to spend enough time in a bed already I don't want to make it longer then it has too for no reason. Also someone was supposed to get money for me today for food and that didn't happen either.
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yes ............but it depends on person .....if he could wear the frames for 12 months................According to me if person wears frames for full year ............that makes him depressd .........and he could not walk for 12months ........having problem to get enough sleep..........in this way we make LL very difficult............................If we chose LON (lengthening our nail)...........its recovery is fast .........if we do 6 cm we will start walk after 6 months without crutchs and we get comfortable sleep after frame removal which is around 3 months ...............but one disadvantage of knee pain..............but the chance is very little .......around 2% to 3 %.............................and one thing........ LL is one of most difficult task and main thing in this task is our mental strength. ; :D :D
6 cm and 6 months to walk normally? what i know from some diaries 3-4 months is more than enough
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I'll be very honest during my recovery and the end amount I lengthened to add to the collection on the forum. If everything keeps going well recovery should start in November
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hiii Kaiser..........2.5 months for lengthening ................. 1 month for callus formation.......3 months for strengthening (60% to 70%)................it takes around 6 months for normal walk................for 90% to 100% strengthening .............it takes 11 to 12 months........including ballerina recovery.................kaiser are you indian ?........... you also want to do LL ........which doctor do you want to go with ?...........how much you want to lengthen?
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hiii Kaiser..........2.5 months for lengthening ................. 1 month for callus formation.......3 months for strengthening (60% to 70%)................it takes around 6 months for normal walk................for 90% to 100% strengthening .............it takes 11 to 12 months........including ballerina recovery.................kaiser are you indian ?........... you also want to do LL ........which doctor do you want to go with ?...........how much you want to lengthen?
Whats your gimmick with all the ..........
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Actually I am researching about limb lengthening from 3 years.................I consulted many doctors and also met many patients .............but now i want to take action to complete my dream of height..................and now I am just sharing the right information about LL .........so that the other future LL patients could get the right information. ;) :) :)
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And what information is that if I may ask........
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what is your lengthening goal ?................whats your age ?................which doctor do you want to go with ?..................I am not any LL expert ............I am just want to share and get more info about LL . ;D
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what is your lengthening goal ?................whats your age ?................which doctor do you want to go with ?..................I am not any LL expert ............I am just want to share and get more info about LL . ;D
My goal is 4 cm..... to be 179 cm I am 23 years old..... I am thinking of going to Dhawan.....
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first I suggest you .........not to do LL ......because you are already tall ............179cm is very good height ............after that if you really want ....than put insoles.........it would be around ............3cm insole height + 2cm shoe height = 5cm......................179+5=184cm ........... around 184 cm tall................after that if you really want to do it then its you choice ..........and i know 3 patients of dhawan ..........its reviews are not good ..............2 patients did TSF (talyor spatial frame) pure external method and 1 patient did LON ...........he was dissatisfied with aftercare and.......returned back to home without frame removal................DR dhawan is good doctor in just surgical skills ..............but aftercare is very bad ...............If any complication occurred then he will take more and more money ............and one thing more ..........his surgery leaves large cuts and scares...........and in your case you need only 4cm ...........which is very safe ..........and last thing he will not provide any accomodation........ you have to arrange it yourself .......and he will not provide any guide person during the whole procedure..............and you have two more options dr srinagri and dr sarin............read all dairies of sringari and sarin...........in make me taller forum also ..........and last option is dr parihar in mumbai...........which is very safe and gud doctor........but the disadvantage is that he will not provide any accomodation and guide person during the whole process...................I am also confused about two doc .........sarin and sringari ..........because i have seen some good results ..........who lengthend 6cm or less then 6cm . ......and at last best of luck for your LL dream. ;D ;D
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first I suggest you .........not to do LL ......because you are already tall ............179cm is very good height ............after that if you really want ....than put insoles.........it would be around ............3cm insole height + 2cm shoe height = 5cm......................179+5=184cm ........... around 184 cm tall................after that if you really want to do it then its you choice ..........and i know 3 patients of dhawan ..........its reviews are not good ..............2 patients did TSF (talyor spatial frame) pure external method and 1 patient did LON ...........he was dissatisfied with aftercare and.......returned back to home without frame removal................DR dhawan is good doctor in just surgical skills ..............but aftercare is very bad ...............If any complication occurred then he will take more and more money ............and one thing more ..........his surgery leaves large cuts and scares...........and in your case you need only 4cm ...........which is very safe ..........and last thing he will not provide any accomodation........ you have to arrange it yourself .......and he will not provide any guide person during the whole procedure..............and you have two more options dr srinagri and dr sarin............read all dairies of sringari and sarin...........in make me taller forum also ..........and last option is dr parihar in mumbai...........which is very safe and gud doctor........but the disadvantage is that he will not provide any accomodation and guide person during the whole process...................I am also confused about two doc .........sarin and sringari ..........because i have seen some good results ..........who lengthend 6cm or less then 6cm . ......and at last best of luck for your LL dream. ;D ;D
no......offence.....but......you.....are.....weird....man....
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o sorry ............i have not read it carefuly.........so you wann be 179 cm tall...........by increasing 4 cm height............ read IKE dairy and philips of dr sringari in makeme taller forum...............and i also know some patients of sarin.......... who did cross lengthening to become 180 cm tall .........................and dr sringari did 45 to 50 cosmetic limb lengthening...............dr sarin did 100 to 130 cosmetic limb lengthening............dr dhawn did 15 to 20 cosmetic limb lengthening................and parihar did 15 to 20 cosmetic limb lengthening..........it might be helpful to chose your doctor...............i consulted these doctors and asked same question to all.
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hiiii Peaceout ..........what do you want to say.........how can you say that i am weird man ........
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hiiii Peaceout ..........what do you want to say.........how can you say that i am weird man ........
hahah sorry dude ,you made me smile.Didnt mean to offend you :D just your posts are funny with all the dots and weird sentences.
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hiiii Peaceout ..........what do you want to say.........how can you say that i am weird man ........
Easy, it's 2016 and you can't even write close to properly.
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He's from India obviously his English isn't the best we aren't here for an English class you understand what he's trying to say, keep it relevant to LL.
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yes, my english is not perfect like you guys but i want to improve it as much as i can. Morissette can you please post your latest x ray, i am also considering Dr sarin for my LL next month and do you know any other patient is coming this oct ? :) :)
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I haven't had a second X-ray yet but next time I go I will be sure to post it! As far as I know two girls had surgery for internals yesterday but they haven't been moved to the guest house yet usually takes 5-10 days depending on pain and recovery post surgery. There are 3 guys at the guest house and 2 girls right now 4 when the other two are moved here.
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Got my money for food today as well as I got my bolts changed so I can resume lengthening. Physio is practically painless now and any knee pain I used to have while doing leg raises or just simply bending my leg and straightening back out is pretty much none existant anymore.
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If you don't stand up - every day, you will have very bad ballerina.
Do the Physio let you sit on the edge of the bed and then press your knees so your heels touch the ground?
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If you don't stand up - every day, you will have very bad ballerina.
Do the Physio let you sit on the edge of the bed and then press your knees so your heels touch the ground?
Sweden do you think 8 cm is a good goal? or its depend on individual
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8 cm starts being a lot, Sweden himself did this and says that you shouldnt pass 6 cm. Even in femurs 8 cm is quite a lot. I dont know if there are exceptions.
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8 cm starts being a lot, Sweden himself did this and says that you shouldnt pass 6 cm. Even in femurs 8 cm is quite a lot. I dont know if there are exceptions.
with Internal method i thik its more safe
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Yes, that is why inernal cost a lot.
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Yes, that is why inernal cost a lot.
8 cm is the max recommended length, Argios made it and a lot of patients too. btw which method you gonna choose and with who?
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Precice 2 or Guitchet nail, Precice with Paley if you have the money, other options are Parihar and B.Personally I want to add 10-11 cm in two surgeries.
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Precice 2 or Guitchet nail, Precice with Paley if you have the money, other options are Parihar and B.Personally I want to add 10-11 cm in two surgeries.
like 7-4 - 6-6 or what? whats your age now? two surgeries take time and this is the cons
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If you don't stand up - every day, you will have very bad ballerina.
Do the Physio let you sit on the edge of the bed and then press your knees so your heels touch the ground?
Yes my heels still touch the ground I often sit on the edge of my bed place my feet on stacked flip flops and press down to get my heel too touch the ground. The stacked flip flops give me around a 2" "platform" I guess. Hurts my ankles a little bit in the beginning but holy hell does it ever do I ever feel the stretch in my calves haha.
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16 years, my plan is 6 on femurs+5 on tibias with LON or maybe 5+6, tibias really scare me, but internal femurs are too expensive.
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16 years, my plan is 6 on femurs+5 on tibias with LON or maybe 5+6, tibias really scare me, but internal femurs are too expensive.
you still young, whats your height? and wait maybe there is a chance you get a few cm
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Yes my heels still touch the ground I often sit on the edge of my bed place my feet on stacked flip flops and press down to get my heel too touch the ground. The stacked flip flops give me around a 2" "platform" I guess. Hurts my ankles a little bit in the beginning but holy hell does it ever do I ever feel the stretch in my calves haha.
This exercise is idiotic and very foolish. I'm telling you: STAND UP EVERY DAY!!!
The physios don't know anything.
Put your folded socks under the front of your feet and stand up so it forces to push your feet up a little.
Remember: your range of motion in your ankles will be determined after his much you forced your feet up during this process. You will be in a world of hell after the cast are taken off after frame removal if you never forced your feet up every day.
Use the walker and try to lean forward towards the wall, stretching your calfs. In that way you force your ankles to adapt to the new length.
Sitting on the bed, especially with sandals on, will be devastating.
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I think a few more cm is possible because my SH is 89 and I am fat, most of people of my height have a SH of 91+ cm.
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I think a few more cm is possible because my SH is 89 and I am fat, most of people of my height have a SH of 91+ cm.
I didn't do 8cm, I did 7. On tibias.
You should never go more than 5cm on tibias. 6cm on femurs.
And get in shape. Go out running. You'll miss that A LOT when can't run anymore after LL.
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Dr Sarin had made some changes to the fixator since you have done your operation. There are less pin sites. The reason for this that I was told is less pain,less nerve compression which leads to a lower chance of nerve damage,much less scarring and less chances of complications during surgery. The downside to this is it creates less support while you're lengthening and you can stand anymore while lengthening. So unfortunately standing is not an option for me
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I didn't do 8cm, I did 7. On tibias.
You should never go more than 5cm on tibias. 6cm on femurs.
And get in shape. Go out running. You'll miss that A LOT when can't run anymore after LL.
Sweden 7 cm in Tibia is like 11 cm in femur. i think 7-8 cm max is good for internal method
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16 years, my plan is 6 on femurs+5 on tibias with LON or maybe 5+6, tibias really scare me, but internal femurs are too expensive.
I've always wondered what the ramifications would be for someone who had ll surgery, then had a natural growth spurt during or shortly thereafter.
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It's been done in kids since the lengthening is done in the middle of the bone and the natural growth occurs at the ends of bones it should effect natural growth.
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Sweden 7 cm in Tibia is like 11 cm in femur. i think 7-8 cm max is good for internal method
Alright?
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You'll regret it so bad that you never stood up. You will forever have short ROM in your ankles. 3-4 months of not using your ankles properly will destroy them permanently.
Don't say nobody told you. I know it's difficult to understand but this is how it is either way you look at it.
You will be permanently destroyed anyway from this but the question is just how much.
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Alright?
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You'll regret it so bad that you never stood up. You will forever have short ROM in your ankles. 3-4 months of not using your ankles properly will destroy them permanently.
Don't say nobody told you. I know it's difficult to understand but this is how it is either way you look at it.
You will be permanently destroyed anyway from this but the question is just how much.
Using Guichet nail will allow me to move my ankles, there are many patients lengthened 8 cm and they doing fine. you did 7 cm and you're fine except the x leg
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Using Guichet nail will allow me to move my ankles, there are many patients lengthened 8 cm and they doing fine. you did 7 cm and you're fine except the x leg
I wasn't talking to you.
You don't have any idea what fine really means.
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I wasn't talking to you.
You don't have any idea what fine really means.
i mean no need for athletic ability level, just running and walking normal. maybe 8 cm is a lot if someone care about sports a lot right?
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i mean no need for athletic ability level, just running and walking normal. maybe 8 cm is a lot if someone care about sports a lot right?
8cm is always too much.
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8cm is always too much.
and 6 for femurs is a very little, i quit sports because i know this will effect my ability. and am not gonna go for 4 cm as its safe, 7.5 or 8, if everything goes well maybe 8.5. the only mistake i will not take is when my body tell me to stop and the doctor too, i will even if its 2 cm
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Sweden do you if wearing shoe lifts after surgery could affect you in anyway. I wanted to do LON and then use lifts still when I can walk by myself.
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Sweden do you if wearing shoe lifts after surgery could affect you in anyway. I wanted to do LON and then use lifts still when I can walk by myself.
Don't do it on a regular basis. Wait 1-2 years before you use lifts.
It's never good to walk in lifts. And it's even worse after you've done tibias.
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What if I did 2x a week.
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I use these that I can adjust to one inch or less.
http://www.tallerheels.com/heel-lifts.html
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Lifts shorten your calve muscles and most people are already battling some form of ballerina
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Ill limit my use of them then.
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Lifts shorten your calve muscles and most people are already battling some form of ballerina
Wish I knew that before my surgery
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Once ballerina is gone using them in moderation would probably be fine. But definitely not before surgery you wanna stretch your hamstring as much as possible at that point
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I get pain in calf's Id probably have to be more careful which is why I want to do 4cm. Maybe wait 9 months at least before using them 2x a week.
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Yea that sounds reasonable but I really don't know I've never worn lifts and I'm still lengthening I would assume it all depends on your ballerina. You might not even get it I'm st 4cm and nowhere near ballerina.
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Yeah heard you get ballerina after 3 cm if you don't exercise, stand up daily but I imagine past 6 cm you're going to be getting it either way.
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We shall see one can only hope lol
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Yea that sounds reasonable but I really don't know I've never worn lifts and I'm still lengthening I would assume it all depends on your ballerina. You might not even get it I'm st 4cm and nowhere near ballerina.
Yes you have. I'm telling you - the physios don't know anything. They haven't done this. They don't understand. I did it. I know. I've been to many top physios all around Europe. I'm well educated in this particular.
You can't feel it when you're in frames. You get your heel down and that's fine.....
But it's not.
You need to stand up - and that, every day!!
I was told the day before my frame removal that I didn't have ballerina.
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Quick update:
I'm at the 4cm mark no complications so far pain is still very minimal mostly only when I'm trying to fall asleep. My sleeping patterns have improved although I really miss my Caucasian food back home, a lot of food here is quite spicy and I'm not a fan of spicy. I slept on my stomach for the first time last week it felt great. I still do physio 3-5 times a day not including the time the physio comes to see me. I was told that I would be going for an X-ray in the next 10 days so I'll post my results from that. Scarring on my legs has significantly gone down too in the past couple weeks. Unfortunately my grandma hasn't been doing very well health wise lately and depending on her predicament as they move along I may cut it short I would like to see her before she passes but we will see.
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Do you feel taller when standing.
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I can't stand yet the fixator can't support my weight but when I put my foot on the ground I've noticed that my knee comes up higher then it used too. Also just looking at my tibia it looks longer then before good feeling to have :)
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4cm is quite significant. You will definitely feel taller. Glad your doing well and thanks for the regular updates.
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My pleasure forum keeps me busy:). And btw for anyone wondering Sweden is right that just because my heel can touch the ground sitting with my foot on my flip flops doesn't mean I won't have ballerina while standing. I'm not allowed to stand so I listen to what they say so far they haven't steered me wrong and everything has gone smoothly so I will keep doing what they say. The reason I can't stand is the fixator can only hold about 60kg and I was about 68kg before surgery idk how much weight I lost and I don't wanna risk it. People under 60kg could stand but standing doesn't mean you won't get ballerina to avoid ballerina you have to stretch ALOT every single day even after you stop lengthening up until you start walking frequently so your muscles don't tighten up again from immobility. After I stop lengthening I have a month too keep stretching before I start walking with crutches so hopefully I won't have ballerina by that point or it won't be that bad.
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The frames could stand 60kg when I was there too. Just as the IMnails.
Every day that goes and your not standing up is a day that makes your ballerina worse.
Trust me when I say that ballerina is a serious condition. It takes years to combat.
Your ankles will get used to this motionless statement and adapt to it and then stay like that. It is a complete war to get the ROM back in them.
You will regret it after 2-3 months when you feel the tightness all the time you stand up.
Remember, after frame removal you will get hard casts on your legs and then your ankles won't move AT ALL. It is absolutely devastating for them.
I lost 6 months just bc I didn't stand up. I trusted the physios in India.
There were guys that stood up and made it much better. I was afraid to break the pins if I stood up.
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I believe you but I can't go against what the doctor has told me. I'm very aware at the seriousness of ballerina and I'm doing all I can to avoid/lessen it and the ankle thing is also true but I never expected this journey to be a breeze. They used to recommend standing but noticed ballerina still happened and lack of mobility in ankles for the moment is due to the pins in my ankles. I will be sure to excerise the hell out of them frames should be off October 26th. I don't think they put casts on your legs anymore but I will confirm that tomorrow
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Agree with Sweden stand as much as you can, try each day just to stand as this will loosen off the tightened tissue. Try not to walk too much as imo this doesnt help. The reason is you arent really walking you are dragging your legs other than actually walking its pointless imo. You wont be able to walk until the frames are off anyway just work on getting that muscle tissue to being used to being on the ground.
Would be interested in knowing how exactly you work on your dorsiflexion, this is the biggest problem you will have with lengthening. If you overdo it on tibias you will completely lose dorsiflexion, once you lose that walking normally and being able to run or play sports will be a thing of the past. Id advise not going past 4-5cms if you are concerned for any of those things
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As of right now for my Doris flexion I use a resistance band pretty much all day long. I also sit on the edge of my bed and place 10kg weights on my knees put the front of my foot on stacked flip flops (2" off the ground) and let the weight bring it down once my heel touches the ground I lift myself off the bed and lean my legs forward as if I was in a squatting position. I'm not an athlete I can't remember the last time I played sports I do like going to the gym. I doubt I will loose my dorsiflexio I would need some serious nerve damage for that to happen, it'll definitely need to be worked on but that's just one of the many things that needs to be done if you chose to do this surgery.
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As of right now for my Doris flexion I use a resistance band pretty much all day long. I also sit on the edge of my bed and place 10kg weights on my knees put the front of my foot on stacked flip flops (2" off the ground) and let the weight bring it down once my heel touches the ground I lift myself off the bed and lean my legs forward as if I was in a squatting position. I'm not an athlete I can't remember the last time I played sports I do like going to the gym. I doubt I will loose my dorsiflexio I would need some serious nerve damage for that to happen, it'll definitely need to be worked on but that's just one of the many things that needs to be done if you chose to do this surgery.
take Sweden's words into consideration. its make a sense you have to walk (carefully) for blood flow. but am not sure what Precise patients should do, they can walk for 4-5 months so?
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Work your arms in the gym so you can bear most of the weight there while you stand.
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Lengthening is still going well moving along. Little bit of pain in my tibias from time to time but nothing I can handle. Still clear of ballerina tho I'm sure I'll start getting a little soon. I'm doing my second surgery to get the frames removed on oct 26th my time was cut short due to a family member going ill. Physio is still tolerable but I've started to get ankle pains in the front of my left ankle my physio says it's due to the pin it's only nerve damage if I start having problems moving my toes or if the pain moves into my feet and toes. Can't wait to get this off my legs.
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Oh I also got interviewed by a Spanish journalist today so I'm gunna famous. In Spain... lol
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How much have you gained.
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Should be coming up to 5cm I'll know exactly when I get X-rays before getting frames removed but no matter the amount lengthened I've decided I have to stop and return home unfortunate situation but oh well.
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Hopefully you get the 5 cm at least.
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That sucks, but if it's any consolation 2 inches is still a good gain and with 5cm you'll have top notch proportions and recovery like LL never happened.
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Yea very true I'm not too bummed out about it we'll see how it goes in the end
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What type of physio do they do for you at the hospital morrisette?
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A lot of stretching of the Achilles' tendon and hamstring muscle + many hamstring and quad exercises to minimize muscle atrophy
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How exactly are those performed if you dont mind me asking?
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Well the physio helps with my Achilles stretches essentially I just lay on my bed and he pushes my foot up over and over and over going further each time and he also helps with one hamstring stretch which is me lifting my leg up straight and he pushes it as close to my head as possible while I keep it straight. He used to help with the excercises but I prefer doing it alone now. I do leg curls, leg raises, modified form of a pronated plank, sitting on the edge of my bed and straightening out my knee over and over simple things like that I also stretch on my own time a lot.
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Just as I said. Completely useless exercises. There is no point in doing these.
Every patient needs to STAND!!! Listen to me. I really know this part.
Good that you decided to stop at 5cm. It is really the maximum you should go. You'll be fine.
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Very good choice, Morissette, you will be very good. Dont forget that you can do femurs in the future, but both segments with a safe amount.
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how to make a post in here? cause i am also gonna go to dr sarin
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how to make a post in here? cause i am also gonna go to dr sarin
welcome, You mean a new topic?
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She already started a topic so I'm not sure what she means
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Update:
Going for X-rays Sunday I expect to be past 5cm will confirm that on Sunday. My parents are telling me to stay and finish what I started so I have a decision to make and some time to make it. Pain is still minimal I hit my external device fairly hard a few times accidently so the left pin site in my ankle has some pain. It's should go away once the bone fixes itself. Still no complications so far I can't wait to get these things off my legs though finally have a good sleep I feel the pressure these put on my knees it's not pleasant. Will keep you posted
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Going for X-rays Sunday I expect to be past 5cm will confirm that on Sunday. My parents are telling me to stay and finish what I started so I have a decision to make and some time to make it. Pain is still minimal I hit my external device fairly hard a few times accidently so the left pin site in my ankle has some pain. It's should go away once the bone fixes itself. Still no complications so far I can't wait to get these things off my legs though finally have a good sleep I feel the pressure these put on my knees it's not pleasant. Will keep you posted
Hope everything goes smooth with you, stay strong and be optimistic, this will help you
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hey Morissette do you feel tightness in your legs. it mostly happens after 4.5 to 5 cm lengthening and can you please post some pictures of your xrays. some body told me about the girl suffering from complication in your guest house, can you please tell me the full story, the girl is ok now? do you know how many patients are coming next month? If you dont know then please ask your physio manager (shaari).
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Thanks kaiser!
I don't feel the tightness in my legs no but I stretch a lot everyday and do exercises to avoid xlegs and I've been good so far. As far as I know no one has any serious complications the basic ballerina,pain,tightness,muscle atrophy possibly. And two girls just got operated on last week that's all I know as to new patients so far.
I will post my X-rays when I get them
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https://imgur.com/a/mIDvX <---- today's X-rays
Measurements aren't accurate my right leg is around 5cm my left 4.5cm. We went to a different hospital for X-rays because the one o got surgery at is an hour away so the doctor started measurement after the start of caluses which are part of how much I've lengthened.
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Link wasn't working but I fixed it
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I cant send more PM this hour, so you didnt do pin site care, the doctor always did it?
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You should probably get remeasured and stay as long as you need to get your leg length together.
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I cant send more PM this hour, so you didnt do pin site care, the doctor always did it?
Well not the doctor himself but the assistant or the care taker Sarin comes to check up on me once in a while make sure everything looks good as does his assistant.You should probably get remeasured and stay as long as you need to get your leg length together.
Of course I'm not leaving until my legs are even but it's very common that your legs don't lengthen at the same rate once I get to my desired lengthen for one leg I stop lengthening and continue with the other and sarin can shorten my leg for the remaining difference of lengthen a little extra if it's only 1-1.5mm difference
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Update:
Lengthening is still going well just about turned for 6cm. ROM in my ankles is still pretty good not too much pain. There is some pain in my left pin site at the ankle and some pain in my right knee on the left side but I never expected this to be painless so I will endure. Closer to the end then the beginning anyways exited to go home and start my recovery. So far I've been doing good with virtually 0 complications unless you consider pain a complication. Days go by slow and my sleep schedule is still all f*cked up but it's coming to an end. As far as the food goes the less picky the better but there are many food apps that deliver to you I personally like foodpanda,FreshMenu and Zomato. You can get away with not liking Indian food but your options will be fairly limited to Italian,Chinese , Japanese, and fast food. I guess American too but that's pretty much all fast-food lol.
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how many cms are you planning to do?
Also, are you doing LATN?
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I'm still planning on 8cm if things keep looking up as they are now and I'm doing LON i preferred that method over LATN
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Morissette you should do 6.5 cm at most, 8 is quite a lot even for femurs.
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I'm not sure I can see it right but the callus looks very dark. Maybe you should take 2 days break from lengthening.
The right leg on the X-ray picture is bent. The other one looks bent too, but the rods on the frame are straight at least.
The rods on the right frame are bent. This will cause you serious problems. You will probably get Xlegs that will cause you arthritis in your knees.
You will not function normal without tramadol if that's the case.
It looks like you lengthen way too fast.
Hopefully you're fine.
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My legs have always been a little bent like that minor deformity from birth I suppose. Anyways thank you for your concern so far so good I'm taking a a break tomorrow and possibly the next day to let my soft tissue relax. Xlegs is caused by muscle atrophy in the IT band and is relatively unpredictable all I can do is some leg excersices and hope for the best honestly but so far there are no signs of xlegs and I'm closer to the end then the beginning
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My legs have always been a little bent like that minor deformity from birth I suppose. Anyways thank you for your concern so far so good I'm taking a a break tomorrow and possibly the next day to let my soft tissue relax. Xlegs is caused by muscle atrophy in the IT band and is relatively unpredictable all I can do is some leg excersices and hope for the best honestly but so far there are no signs of xlegs and I'm closer to the end then the beginning
x-LEGS is caused by bone deformity... Has nothing to do with muscle atrophy or other bull
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What? Xlegs is when you walk with your femurs extremely adducted no bone deformity? IT band and tensor fascia latae abduct your femur and when they are weakened or "shortened" it causes your femurs to cave inwards because the adductor brevis, adductor longus and gracilis muscles are exerting to much force to even it out.
Long story short it's a muscle imbalance
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His legs look crooked because the picture was taken off a page that was deformed by holding it up.
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https://imgur.com/a/fYz8r This an X-ray 10 days into lengthening my legs are bent the exact same way if it was an early sign of xlegs it would have gotten exponentially worse 1.5 months later. Not everyone is built the same simple as that. My Tibias isn't going to get deformed I have a metal nail going through it which ensures it won't get crooked.
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What? Xlegs is when you walk with your femurs extremely adducted no bone deformity? IT band and tensor fascia latae abduct your femur and when they are weakened or "shortened" it causes your femurs to cave inwards because the adductor brevis, adductor longus and gracilis muscles are exerting to much force to even it out.
Long story short it's a muscle imbalance
Valgus or equinous of the knees is caused by either problems with the allignment of the tibias or the coxo-femoral joint. Nothing to do with muscle imbalances... If that was the case, everyone would have them since everyone today are lazy couch potaotes.
Btw, I am not attacking you or your doc since I didnt look at the X-rays. Just pointing out about what are X-legs
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I know don't worry I've grown to tell the difference when someone is being genuine and we just disagree and a troll. And how would my knee become unaligned(serious question I'm sure it's happened before)? In my line of work I help people with muscle imbalances everyday and i have seen Xlegs obviously not as severe as some cases with LL but I believe the big difference is yes most are couch potatoes but they still take at least 5000 steps a day. Enough to keep the muscles somewhat strengthened. As for me I haven't taken a step since September 1st
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Dont increase moré just get your left leg to proportion to your right and call it a day. youre gonna regret it after.
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how is the internal LL going on with girls there at guest house?
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As far as I know the girls are doing fine. The two local girls don't speak English so I base this off of solely watching them walk without crutches. The American guy is having a bit of a harder time with internals. He wasn't able to move his right leg for about a week so he took a break and the movement is back. Although it's his second surgery on femurs with sarin he's stopping at 4cm
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still, it says 3 messages limit thingy , i hate it!
so here this boy texting me all this
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Hey GirlOnine,
Even I am a LL aspirant from Hyderabad,I understand you are considering for internal Limb lengthening with Dr Sarin.
I actually visited some of the patients in Dr. Sarin's guest house in month of July.
I met a patient there who has performed interal LL in tibias and he got serious complications , his HLN rod (Internal method used by Dr Sarin) is leaking with fluids after 2 weeks and he had to undergo another surgery to get it fixed.
Even after it was fixed he could not able to move his legs even after 6 months.
Most of the internal LL patients with Dr Sarin suffered with complications.
Please think thoroughly about this surgery and choose your doctor wisely.
Wish you the best!
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That patient said to me that its issue that happened during the surgery,even I agree with him as first 2 weeks they usually under the regular care of doctor.
I also met a patient of Netherlands, he had performed lengthening on both feumers (internal) and tibias (external) at 6.5 cm and 7.5 cms respectively.he has given good feedback about Dr. Sarin. but we could not able to walk that time.
there are also two Indian sisters who are performing externals but I could not able to talk with them.
Even Dr.Sarin does not come to visit guest house every day, Its only the physio guy who sees the patients every day, that happens even with Parihar.
Anyway I am not to suggesting you any doctor.I would suggest to talk with current patients of doctor before going forward.
bty the guest house is not owned by Dr Sarin , he only has tie-up with the guest house owner so his patients can stay and couple of Dr Sarin patients stay in nearby hotels as well.
You can probably check for service apartments if are planning going with Dr Parihar.
I am 25 yrs old.
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I wasn't here for the month of July so I couldn't say I was here with the Netherlands patient tho and we talked a lot about patients who were here when he was and he told me 1 patient got a serious infection and had to stop at 5cm due to it that may be who he's talking about
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How many internal nails has Sarin put on patients?
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Idk about the total but he has 5 patients with internals atm
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thats a lot
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hiii i read the msg of rack, I know that patient who suffered from seriouse complication that was due to the leakage of liquid in bone, so this is the one main disadvantage of Hydraulic nail but the exteranals are safe in this way. and If you have so much money than go for precice nail. If you have doubts than go directly to doctor, If you ask questions here, then every body guides you in a different way.
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Can we play sports like football, cricket with 5.5 cm to 6cm lengthening?, Actually I am little worried about 100% recovery, please guys guide me. I am going with sarin next month. :) :)
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Can we play sports like football, cricket with 5.5 cm to 6cm lengthening?, Actually I am little worried about 100% recovery, please guys guide me. I am going with sarin next month. :) :)
I'm sure you'll be fine that's not an excessive amount
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Can we play sports like football, cricket with 5.5 cm to 6cm lengthening?, Actually I am little worried about 100% recovery, please guys guide me. I am going with sarin next month. :) :)
Not like before, maybe after 2 years. you should wait for your weaker new bone to be fused completely.
100% recovery is myth forget about it, you will never achieve it, but the good news is, you can't fell the differences because you're not an professional athletic, so don't worry and do the surgery.
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Update:
At the 7cm mark. Pain is still tolerable to has risen in the past week(to be expected). I now see my initial goal of 9cm would have been impossible at least for me. After going through this experience I believe I will be able to appreciate everyday life and just little things a lot more then before as cliche as that may sound. My pin sites are getting really sensitive and I have troubles straitening out my legs completely. Also some knee stiffness other then that every thing is still the same. I can't wait to get these god damn devil frames off of my legs it'll such a relief.
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Update:
At the 7cm mark. Pain is still tolerable to has risen in the past week(to be expected). I now see my initial goal of 9cm would have been impossible at least for me. After going through this experience I believe I will be able to appreciate everyday life and just little things a lot more then before as cliche as that may sound. My pin sites are getting really sensitive and I have troubles straitening out my legs completely. Also some knee stiffness other then that every thing is still the same. I can't wait to get these god damn devil frames off of my legs it'll such a relief.
I think 7 cm its your time to hang gloves. stop here 7 is already a lot for tibia. each mm means a month or more of recovery, please stop it now. anyways you were strong during this time
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Hello everybody, I have decided to go with sarin next month but i have one question to all guys, Is there any possibility that I cannot walk again after my LL for life, that question makes me feel depressed and feel anxiouse when i think about it, If any body have a complete knowlegde about LL then please guide me and my goal is also very safe 5.5 cm, please guys guide me and please guys try to make me stronge for my surgery, I hope you guys understand why i am asking this :( :
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There is always a risk, like with every surgery.
But with a good doctor risk is minimal but you still should keep it in mind.
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A chance of you not walking again is pretty much none existant but there's a risk that you could walk weird for up to a year sometimes more
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Hello everybody, I have decided to go with sarin next month but i have one question to all guys, Is there any possibility that I cannot walk again after my LL for life, that question makes me feel depressed and feel anxiouse when i think about it, If any body have a complete knowlegde about LL then please guide me and my goal is also very safe 5.5 cm, please guys guide me and please guys try to make me stronge for my surgery, I hope you guys understand why i am asking this :( :
Your worried about that and your going to sarin. ::)
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Your worried about that and your going to sarin. ::)
lol ;D :D
really on point, but i think 5.5 cm is a realistic goal, i don't thing Sarin is worse than Ukraine doctors, he had some impressive and good cases
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hiii kaiser, i have seen some patients of dr sarin with good results but his some patients got complications because of there own carelessness and kaiser, are you going with mansih dhawan ? and when you will do the surgery ?
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hiii kaiser, i have seen some patients of dr sarin with good results but his some patients got complications because of there own carelessness and kaiser, are you going with mansih dhawan ? and when you will do the surgery ?
My Two choices are Paley or Guichet, never heard of mansih dhawan!!
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Because you don't look at the doctors list in the forum. He is not as cautious as pahirhar but he still is a good doctor who is very knowledgeable in LL.
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Because you don't look at the doctors list in the forum. He is not as cautious as pahirhar but he still is a good doctor who is very knowledgeable in LL.
Am really afraid to go to India, Ukraine and Russia for LL. I go there for a tourist purpose. All the biggest complication mostly come from the doctors in These countries. I started to like some Indian doctors such as Parihar
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Am really afraid to go to India, Ukraine and Russia for LL. I go there for a tourist purpose. All the biggest complication mostly come from the doctors in These countries. I started to like some Indian doctors such as Parihar
Why are you writing like This
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There are many story's of complication in other countrys and Guichet the one you want to go to, have you forgotten about Unicorn. Ill go to parihar before Guichet even, he has proven to be more safer.
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Why are you writing like This
Because its more comfortable to read lol
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There are many story's of complication in other countrys and Guichet the one you want to go to, have you forgotten about Unicorn. Ill go to parihar before Guichet even, he has proven to be more safer.
if you judge like that, then see Paley's patients (Programdude and DIFM).
expect the unexpected in this surgery, but Paley and Guichet known for their high success rate
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Guys that went to lengthen too much. Unicorn problems started long before going for too many cms.
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Guys that went to lengthen too much. Unicorn problems started long before going for too many cms.
DIFM and Programdude lengthened with Paley's advice, he didn't ask them to stop. and am sure if you win a lottery you will chose Paley or Guichet because they're the best. Parihar is the best safest economic doctor too
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I dont know really why, but I think that Parihar is even more intelligent than Paley. He makes see simple complicated things, Paley not.
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hiii Morissette, i hope you are doing well and Have you cross 7cm mark?, Any complication like ballerina? and how many months are you going to stay in india? and I am coming to take surgery date in november 1st week but little nervouse and worried about surgery and can you give me some suggestions or tips for surgery. :) :)
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Hi Ajay I have crossed the 7cm mark my frames are getting removed nov 4th. I can't stand so idk about ballerina but I will have a little bit of ballerina but my ROM in my ankles is still pretty good there's still some flexibility in those bad boys. No serious complications my connective tissues are getting tight and pain has increased recently but still bareble. Other then that no xlegs every thing is still aligned and no bone deformity from what I understand I've been one of the more successful and luckier patients very thankful for this. After I get the frames removed I don't plan to stay long I'll be out of here by Nov 10th I miss home. Tips for surgery uhh try to be in the best shape of your life I strongly believe in law of attraction so keep a positive attitude and convince yourself things will go flawless. Bring LOTS of things to do post surgery for in the hospital and guest house. Work on youre flexibility none stop so very important. Best of luck to you!
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Hi Ajay I have crossed the 7cm mark my frames are getting removed nov 4th. I can't stand so idk about ballerina but I will have a little bit of ballerina but my ROM in my ankles is still pretty good there's still some flexibility in those bad boys. No serious complications my connective tissues are getting tight and pain has increased recently but still bareble. Other then that no xlegs every thing is still aligned and no bone deformity from what I understand I've been one of the more successful and luckier patients very thankful for this. After I get the frames removed I don't plan to stay long I'll be out of here by Nov 10th I miss home. Tips for surgery uhh try to be in the best shape of your life I strongly believe in law of attraction so keep a positive attitude and convince yourself things will go flawless. Bring LOTS of things to do post surgery for in the hospital and guest house. Work on youre flexibility none stop so very important. Best of luck to you!
Mashallah very happy for you :)
i see so many positive comments from you regarding LL and that makes me super happy, just be careful and all the best, sad that i couldnt come to the guesthouse because of less flight time left, :(
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Positivity is key. Don't get me wrong this will be one of the toughest things you will ever do in your life it hurts, its long, it's boring a lot of questions and subconscious worries are left up in the air until you finish lengthening; don't let it get you down look forward and remember why you're doing this next thing you know it'll be over and you'll be in recovery. I really don't want anyone thinking this surgery is a breeze from my diary it's not but YOU WILL BE FINE ONE DAY AT A TIME.
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How much have you lengthened so far and what is your goal?
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Goal is 8cm I'm at about 7.2 in getting X-rays nov 2nd to confirm and fix the difference between my legs
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Update:
My dumbass fell off my bed while I was sleeping two nights ago and I hit marble floor. Frames were fine but god damn did it ever hurt I'm still feeling the consequences of it today. Other then that nothing new or exciting has happened last X-rays nov 2nd
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Oh man, that sucks. I've found myself half-rolled to the edge of the bed and now keep chairs there as a barrier.
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Update:
Surgery is set for November 3rd. I've stopped lengthening I'm quite sick of it to tell you the truth. I didn't reach 8cm I'm at 7.5 but I'm satisfied. No major complications throughout my lengthening process for happy about this. I'll be going home in about 2.5 weeks time. Only complications I have to report is some knee bending which is easily taken care of and probably ballerina I won't know until I start walking. Will update again after surgery.
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That's awesome! Wishing you a speedy recovery, don't forget to upload some photos once the frames are off.
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Will do!
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What is the most common rate of your lengthening? .75mm or 1mm or .67 mm?
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My most common rate was 1.5mm(don't recommend this for most).
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That could be because of your age and good bone regeneration, if a patient is overweight, how will he/she walk after distraction phase( considering LON)?
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Age is a major factor my entire body is more flexible at a younger age and allows for more elasticity. Also you feel less pain when you're younger. If a patient were overweight firstly depending how overweight i wouldn't recommend this. Anyways after distraction they would have to wait the 4-6 weeks then they would start walking with crutches. It would be more critical for someone like that to make sure the doctor says the bone is strong enough before you start walking because the more weight you have to carry around the higher chance you have at bending the screws holding the nail in place.
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Got surgery yesterday to get the frames removed. Final length gained was 7.5cm I'm happy with this amount, it would have been difficult to keep going to 8cm my will power was running out. I'm set to leave for home on the 8th. Right now I have bandages on my legs not really sure why but once they're removed I will post a picture of my legs; after that this diary will be coming to an end and I will be taking a short 2 week break off the forum.
When I return I will start a new diary strictly on my recovery, the reason I want to do it in two seperate diarys is because I think it would be easier for members to navigate through my LL experience instead of having a huge 30 page diary. Feel free to pm any questions you may have and I will answer all of them when I return.
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Congrats man.
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Congrats i wish you a speedy recovery
Tell me did you get the rods in?
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congarts buddy, I am coming on 7th to meet all patients.
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Mori had a succesful case with this doctor. But beware, most surgeons can perform a good surgery.
The problem is when you get a complication and you need someone that can fix them and someone that cares. Not someone who is all about the money, which Sarin has proved himself to be.
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congarts buddy, I am coming on 7th to meet all patients.
Thank you for letting all of us know that your life long dream is not to become taller, but to become a permanent cripple...
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Mori had a succesful case with this doctor. But beware, most surgeons can perform a good surgery.
The problem is when you get a complication and you need someone that can fix them and someone that cares. Not someone who is all about the money, which Sarin has proved himself to be.
The surgery just begin, the recovery is the most important thing and we will see how can he manage it
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Mori had a succesful case with this doctor. But beware, most surgeons can perform a good surgery.
The problem is when you get a complication and you need someone that can fix them and someone that cares. Not someone who is all about the money, which Sarin has proved himself to be.
Are you saying Sarin is all about money?
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I believe he is, yes.
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Thank you for letting all of us know that your life long dream is not to become taller, but to become a permanent cripple...
Got off my fking diary you pessimistic douchebag
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Got off my fking diary you pessimistic douchebag
Please explain? Sarin performed my surgery 3 weeks before I gave him a single dime. Name me another doctor that would do that? The price is one of the cheapest on the market for the amount of experience he has plus if you get complications he will fix them for free.
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But kaiser is right recovery is a huge part of this opperation I still have a long road ahead although my doctor is no longer to blame if something goes wrong
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"yes plez come india lengthen 9cm tibia you be fine after"
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Lol what? So you just create a broken English quote and that's why he's all about money? He doesn't recommend over 8cm per segment if you want more he says do two separate operations. We're old enough to make our own decisions when we come for this surgery. As well as he tells you the risks of going to 8cm and you're well looked after. If you're too at risk they will stop you they just make 8cm an option for those who can achieve it. I had a better experience lengthening then most do that go to even the most expensive doctors. 15k 2 months no complications. This is why I need a break from the forum totally ridiculous even with a positive diary people still say negative things
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Got off my fking diary you pessimistic douchebag
The guy is a complete AIDS ridden poofter he needs his IP address banned. He's a troll who will never do this op yet acts as if he knows everything
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The guy is a complete AIDS ridden poofter he needs his IP address banned. He's a troll who will never do this op yet acts as if he knows everything
I agree he's an to anyone who doesn't go to parihar or paley
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There are people with positive results from every doctor. I am happy for you!
Even some of Sringari's patients managed decently and we all know he doesnt't know about ilizarov.
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Morissette well done, the first stage is over. Now you're in the longest stage to get back to normal, i want a specific details day by day. take two weeks off as u wish, you did a lot of effort, then tell us updates and avoid sudden disappearance
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Well let see how the recovery goes. If you stumble though it okay then I got to get on it as age will make things easier.
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Thank everyone I'll definitely be back to finish what I started and bander idk what you're trying to say
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here i want to say that many pateints of dr sarin does not make their dairies, all most all are successfull cases and one thing more If we are unlucky then complications would also occur if we do leg lengthening with paley or guchit. and safety comes with experience, According to me, now sarin has enough experience to give safe surgery and to handle complications. If we chose to lengthen more than 6 cm which is safe limit and complication occured then its our fault not doctors. :) :)
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3 days post op just got the bandages off
https://youtu.be/9Mqbp7KAQOc
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hii Morissette, congrats for your Lengthening success, but i want to ask that you have any kind of knee pain when you bend your knee or simply move your knee ? :) :)
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When do you expect to walk normally without training and stuff?
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I have 0 knee pain when I move my knees no issues at all there. The only remaining pain is in my ankles like I said but it gets better day by day by the time I get home I'll be ready to start stretching myself out well. This is my recovery schedule I've laid out for myself.
November 20- start putting body weight on feet wth crutches,walker,hanging off counter etc
November 27- start walking with crutches
December 1-5- return to weight training
December 23- start walking unassisted
February 15- no longer need the use of crutches
That's how i hope it's going to go. It's really hard to predict when I'll be walking normally until I start walking at all. From what I understand the reason you walk weird post surgery is because of your weak muscles and so your body compensates and shifts the weight usually in the hips which makes you look retarded. On that note my main focus when I get home is going to be to strengthen my legs as best I can reasonably of course.
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Did he do the C-cut on you? He used to do that to people to save time/money. Very bad stuff.
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I'm not sure what that is where would that cut be located? The only cuts I can see are where the pin sites where(only 1 required staples). And also 4 staples close to my ankles where the screws were inserted no additional cuts
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Well this concludes my lengthening diary. This will also be my last post for a while. I'm all packed up and set to take off in about 8hours.
I consider my lengthening phase a huge success and I'm glad it's over. I'll be back in a couple weeks starting my recovery. Cya all on the other side ???
Ps: I would totally do this all over again even with knowing how much of a pain it would be.
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You are halfway done. Recovery is a bitch. No disrespect. It's just not something I thought of when I finished lengthening.
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Congrats man,thanks for the video.How tall are you exactly now?
and will you share a proportion pic later?
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here i want to say that many pateints of dr sarin does not make their dairies, all most all are successfull cases and one thing more If we are unlucky then complications would also occur if we do leg lengthening with paley or guchit. and safety comes with experience, According to me, now sarin has enough experience to give safe surgery and to handle complications. If we chose to lengthen more than 6 cm which is safe limit and complication occured then its our fault not doctors. :) :)
How reassuring..... Sarin is not in the same breath as Dr Paley or Guichet.
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Recap:
Surgery performed September 1st
Lengthened tibias by 7.5cm
Frames removed November 3rd
Left India to head home November 8th
Overall experience:
Overall I was satisfied with my experience in India under Sarin's care. Professional,clean and genuine I believe all my needs were met with good lengthening phase results. If I had to complain about anything it would be the guest house service could have been better.
I've had the frames removed for 17 days now I've been home for 12 of those days. Complications I had when the lengthening was over:knee bending, ballerina, knee pain
From the very first day I landed back home I've been practicing standing with a walker. Since then my pain has significantly gone done I've also gotten a lot of mobility back in my ankles. My knee bending is almost all gone and to a delightful surprise my ballerina is now less then half an inch when I stand up straight and i haven't even started walking yet.
I will post proportion photos once I can actually stand in a mirror and take a pic. Before I forget I'm very impressed with my scars they're healing very well in a couple months time you won't even be able to tell
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Dam you're age. You're going through this like it's nothing.
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Good luck with your recovery I'm dreaming of the day I get my frames removed I really am.
That's great your pain is going down I'm sure you will notice changes day by day
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Didn't you do 3 cm it should not be that long of a wait.
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Yeah I did
Do notice I'm slightly taller even at this amount
Yes il likely with luck get these things off in a month as bone growth is excellent
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How long have you had them on.
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Good 3.5 months or so.
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Dam you're age. You're going through this like it's nothing.
I've been very fortunate indeed while going through this so far other then pain.
I've taken a few steps with my walker today I feel like an old man when I walk but hell im ahead of schedule. I've also started training my abs and upper body at home, I'm tired of being lazy. One day I'll do 10-30 minutes of ab exercises I usually get 5 exercises done with 3 sets each. The next day I'll do every single push up imaginable to man. Regular, triangle push up, tricep push up, clapping push up etc I'll also do tricep dips. All of this for 3 sets each
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How flexible / fit were you before LL? Were you athletic? Did you train / exercise to prepare for your surgery?
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How flexible / fit were you before LL? Were you athletic? Did you train / exercise to prepare for your surgery?
I was fairly flexible nothing too impressive but I could touch my toes and stuff like that.
Before LL I had been training 5 days a week at the gym for the past 3 years. I'd been dieting for about 2 years I would meal prep my lunches. Before LL I was at 8% 160lb 168cm in terms of being physically prepared for this I couldn't have been more ready. The only thing I changed when I found out I wanted to do this surgery and implement stretching exercises more frequently post workout:
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Good 3.5 months or so.
Are you doing LON
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Update:
I'm walking with a walker around my house now, pain has gone down a lot when putting pressure on my legs. Knee bending is almost all gone same with ballerina. Ankle mobility is coming back. My legs strength is also coming back but I do still have to take it easy.
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Consolidation day 31:
Yesterday I stood up with my crutches but didn't feel balanced enough to walk, today I stood up and started step by step. I ended up walking around my kitchen for 4-5 hours.
I still have a little bit of knee pain the more I walk the better it gets, I still have a little minor ballerina but not when I'm standing when I walk.
My knee bending is gone, no xlegs thankfully. I don't get pains in my bone anymore I'm going to go for an X-ray in a couple weeks to see how it's healing. My ankles ROM is coming back obviously still needs work but have made very good progress.
I will post some pictures tonight
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Consolidation day 31:
Yesterday I stood up with my crutches but didn't feel balanced enough to walk, today I stood up and started step by step. I ended up walking around my kitchen for 4-5 hours.
I still have a little bit of knee pain the more I walk the better it gets, I still have a little minor ballerina but not when I'm standing when I walk.
My knee bending is gone, no xlegs thankfully. I don't get pains in my bone anymore I'm going to go for an X-ray in a couple weeks to see how it's healing. My ankles ROM is coming back obviously still needs work but have made very good progress.
I will post some pictures tonight
Great news, keep it up. Try to walk more and more to flow the blood. waiting your Xray
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Sorry i haven't been consistent with the forum since I've been home life has gotten exponentially better and I forget all the time.
Anyways quick update: started walking unassisted Monday as well as started hitting the gym again on Monday. Went for X-rays and my callus touches (thank god). They also determined that my foot/ankle/tibia were all aligned.
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Video of walking please? :D
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hiiii Morissette, can you please post your walking video ?
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Hi Ajay. how is ur journey? did u goto dr.sarin?
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This is actually a good diary for tibias with pictures and videos but still no internal femur diaries with pictures and videos.
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Did you do LATN?
What type of nail did you use ?
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Hey Morisette, I see that you are online. Seeing that its been almost 2 years since your LL (I'm assuming you had 1 LL surgery), do you mind telling us how other parts of your life have been impacted by your new height?
I started at the same height as you and did 6.5 cm femurs. I always find it interesting how it impacts their life out long term (not in terms of healthy, but other aspects).
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Any update. How is ur life going ? do people notice ur height ? any posture change while walking ??
Thanks.
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Morisette how are you feeling now? Any regrets? It’s been a few years, was it worth it for you??
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I always feel relieved when people stop posting, because to me it means they moved forward in life and don't need the forums for support. :)
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Hey guys it’s been a long time since I’ve logged on, after I recovered I kind of just moved in with life but I always wanted to comeback and checkin.
Life has been good, I did get those 3inches I was after (7.5cm) recovery took sometime but after 4-5 months I was walking unassisted granted I was very healthy going into this and went right back to the gym as soon as I could get around on crutches. 2 years after surgery I was pretty much 100% a little slower running but if I trained for it I could recover that fully as well. No pain in my legs even all these years later minimal scaring.
No regrets I’d do it all over again, I’ll stick around for a little bit if someone has questions! I haven’t kept in contact with Dr. Amar Sarin so I really can’t speak to his methods today/prices but my experience back in 2016 was positive with 0 complications.
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