Limb Lengthening Forum
Community Hangout => Off Topic => Topic started by: CaptainAmerica on December 01, 2016, 08:28:34 PM
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I stopped growing at 15 at only 5'4'ish and I've been researching how to get taller ever since and I've been lurking here for around ~3 years now. Unfortunately, I just found out this exists: http://authenticheightresearch.blogspot.com/.
I'm giving Ibutamoren a shot. I really don't think my growth plates are still open, but it promises 1 inch over 3 months. Anything helps. Anyone else here under 18-20 I really suggest trying it as well.
I will post updates here about how it goes for me. If it doesn't get me taller, well, at least I'm hoping for better skin lol.
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The Ibutamoren got here today. The drug is orally active, so I filled a cup up to 1ml. (My mixture is 25mg/1ml) and I drank it down. Such a foul tasting substance, tastes a lot like cold medicine but without any flavoring at all. I didn't want to chance mixing it with anything on the off-chance that I mess with its' potency. Not really feeling anything yet besides this awful after-taste in my mouth, but apparently it's supposed to help you get better sleep. I'll update tomorrow on if that's true or not.
EDIT 3 hours later:
Wow, I have never been so hungry. My stomach feels that it's full, but it's as if something is telling me: EAT MORE, EAT MORE. I really can't stop eating. May just be placebo, because I doubt this would be happening so quickly. Also, feeling a bit drowsy after taking my dosage, the same way Tyneol/Beneydrl may make you a bit tired. I read that lethargy is a possible side-effect. I may switch to night-dosages.
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Interesting stuff. Let us know how it works out for you. I'm a few days shy of 20 so it's probably too late for me if this actually works, might help someone else though. :)
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19 here, but pretty sure I stopped growing a while ago. Best of luck with that method, hopefully your growing process won't have stopped. However, I'd say nothing will make you grow taller once you've stopped growing naturally. But you still have the LL choice!
Cheers.
PS. Please be careful with drugs.
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Hi everyone. Wow, did I get the best sleep of my LIFE last night. I seriously can't believe it. I only slept for 5 hours too, (I know, a waste of HGH), but wow it felt like I slept 12. Woke up feeling refreshed. Usually I struggle to get out of bed in the mornings and sometimes I can't even tell if I've slept at all. (Tossing and turning so often, did I actually really fall asleep even?). But when I woke up this morning, it was like coming out of a deep, rejuvenating slumber.
I think a big misconception is that your growth plates close immediately after you stop growing. That's not always exactly the case. I've been reading up on a lot of forums online and a lot of people who were 18-19 and took HGH grew an inch or two in a few months. Honestly even half of an inch to my torso would be greatly appreciated (torso is seriously underdeveloped).
Even though I probably started puberty at around 13, I still look seriously undeveloped for my age. As in, 15 year old girls will randomly approach me at the mall. (What an awkward feeling). I think it was due to lack of sleep, not eating properly, little to no exercise (to generate HGH), and just all around poor nutrition. I'm hoping that this will be able to kick me back into my proper development cycle and give me at least an inch or two. Anything counts. I mean I eventually plan on breaking my legs twice and going through months of torture to get 4 inches so... Yeah, I'll try/take anything.
Also, I appreciate the concerns. I did a lot of research on HGH/Ibutamoren/etc before deciding to go through with it and found a reputable supplier. The cost for 30 doses was $85, you're probably not going to find anything much cheaper.
The lethargy wore off after 2 hours. It wasn't as bad as Nyquil usually is for me. That stuff is impossible to keep your eyes open with. But it did give a bit of a slow-body-droopy feeling. It felt like I was maybe 3-4 shots in. I'm still not switching to a night dosage, because I'm a little paranoid of falling asleep (even without drugs, I used to have anxiety about falling asleep and not waking up, probably why I'm so short tbh), but if I see that I'm doing well maybe a week or two in I'll just start dosing before I go to bed to avoid the lethargy altogether.
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Good luck :) Words wouldn't even begin to explain how much easier it would be for HGH to give you (or me) 1-2 inches of height without having to through LL. Or still doing it, but being a lot closer to your goal.
I get the same thing too, except I'm usually approached by 12-14 year olds. I look really young in general, even in the face. Lol
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I think TIBIKE mentioned that his brother took HGH and he mostly grew in legs so i don't think you could be closer to your goal because of the proportions.
Well but at least it would be less painful.
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Wow.... what a feeling. I've grown 1/8 of an inch in the past 3 week. I know, that's not a lot, but it gives me hope and makes me feel a lot better than I have in a long time. Especially considerig that I haven't grown AT ALL since I was 15. I feel like a young teen again, like everything is going to be alright. Like maybe, just maybe, I'll have a shot at a normal life.
I've noticed increased appetite and before going to bed I get frequent leg pains. It starts in one leg and then goes to the other, and it happens nearly every time before I go to sleep guaranteed. Rarely it'll happen randomly throughout the day. On days when I would eat really well and get lots of sleep the night before the pains would last for hooours. Getting these pains makes me feel really happy, like nothing else.
Right now I'm taking a standard multi, megadosing vitamin c, glucosamine, drinking hella milk, and trying to eat as much as possible. (I have already been taking all of these besides the milk/ vitamin C). You really can't skip out on this part, if you plan on doing this, your nutrition and sleep have to be TOP TIER.
Good luck. I may hop on an AI soon after more research. But I hope any 15-16 year old teens who are already on here (like I was) get some hope from this and can combat their problem earlier. :)
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Dull throbbing leg pains for nearly all day today. Very exciting. My legs also feel very tired and weak, despite not really doing anything. (This may just be placebo). I wonder why I'm not feeling anything in my arms? (My arms are around 2 inches longer than my height anyway, so).
Once again, broscience, but, I ate ~3500 calories yesterday and the pains have been going on all day today. I'm not too certain there's a direct correlation between today's pain and yesterday's caloric intake, but it's happened a few times now.
Unfortunately, I'm almost all out of juice! But I'm going to re-order soon with some aromasin and start at ~12.5mg EOD. Wish me luck!
This cycle has given me hope like nothing else. Like you guys, all I ever wanted was a normal life, and as a man, that's nearly impossible when you're under 5'6. I couldn't even check into a flight a few months ago without my dad having to come talk to the lady at the desk (because she thought I was under 18). And just... walking around my uni campus. I swear the average height for dudes my age has to be 6'. I've never felt smaller. At least in high school I wasn't the tallest, but I still had a chance. At 5'4, as a dude, I'm pretty much dead in the water.
Hoping I can squeeze out another 2 inches with an AI. From then I'll meet with a doctor, get my hormonal profile/bones checked, and see if it's safe to continue. If not, I'll call it quits and plan on giving Paley a visit next year.
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Wow, so there was a small height increase already. Good luck. I would love to be a good two inches taller someday. :P Hope things work out for you. I can 100% relate to that " feeling trapped in a child's body" thing.
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Hey bro, could you provide the sources for what you are taking, i want to try it. Im almost 20 but im convinced my bone age is at 18 yrs or possibly under. I calculated this bcus when i x rayed my growth plates last year, it was in the beginning stage of complete primary fusion, this usually happens when the bone age reaches 17. Shortly after that x ray i started taking letro which is a estrogen blocker. Estrogen fuses growth plates. I have grown some inches since then so im hoping to grow some more. If you got any links, post them or message me them.
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CaptainAmerica can you provide a link of where you get it tks
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Does the body keep growing horizontally after the vertical groth plates have closed? E.g. the body getting wider?
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Yeah, for a few more years on average I think.
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I'm 17 years old and this is very interesting for me. Even just 1 cm would be worth it. Could you please link the site you bought it from. Much appreciated
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Finally back for an update. What's happened thus far?
Well, school is back in session -_- this means that I can't spend my entire day stuffing my face. Couple this with the fact that my dining hall only serves low-nutrience 300 calorie meals, no food in my dorm, and less sleep... I don't feel like I'm getting the gains I used to. There was a week over winter break where I truly stuffed my face all day and got 12 hours of sleep and I really did feel growing pains nearly for an entire day sometimes. Those days felt magical. I was off for 5 days (waiting to get back to dorm mail to get my new order of MK-677) and I started back up again around 4 days ago. And unfortunately now, I just left my vial at my dorm on accident! Agh! Time is ticking andI feel like I won't reach my 2 inch optimistic goal.
I don't think I've grown nearly as much as I did at the middle of December. That was truly an amazing time. I need to start disciplining myself to eat more and sleep more if I want to get that kind of growth again. I think if I do this I could reach 1/4 of an inch total by the middle of February.
I PM'd with Cristian and he told he was on Letro to lower his estro and in turn prevent growth plate fusion and that it was going well for him. Dude is getting good gains at 18 and it doesn't look like his growth his slowing down. So, I bought some Letrozole myself. BE CAREFUL!!! This stuff can completely kill your estrogen, which can make you feel depressed / lose sxx drive / etc... As such, I'm taking 0.5mg/e3d. I may ramp this up over time, but right now, I've experienced absolutely zero side effects. If anything, I would say my sxx drive has gotten much higher and I feel like my body warmth and overall energy have increased.
I'm a little wary of posting links here of where I'm getting this stuff, as I don't want to be accused of promoting or anything, but I will be PM'ing those who asked for the link of my source right now.
Overall, I'm still doing good but I just can NOT believe how much growth and the growing pains I felt correlated with my diet and sleeping habits. I just really can't believe it. It truly makes me wonder how much more I could've grown naturally had I been consuming 2000+ calories a day as a teen and getting more than the usual 5hrs of sleep that I usually did.
Also, my skin has almost completely cleared and healed up. I have really slow healing skin that takes 4-5 months for any previous marks to disappear. It seems like 4-5 months has been reduced to 1-2 months. There are some days where I would wake up and I swear my skin would have a youthful glow to it, and made me look very healthy. Thanks HGH!
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Does the body keep growing horizontally after the vertical groth plates have closed? E.g. the body getting wider?
This is something I was worried about as well, as I plan on getting LL and thus want as wide of a frame as possible to have better proportions. The answer is, yes! But the clavicle is usually ~80% done with growing by the age of 14. Still, it seems to continue to grow until your early 20's, and that's why, this thread is titled, "if you're under 20!"
Because growth really probably does not stop until you are ~25 at the latest. Other people will argue that it stops much earlier, and that they stopped growing entirely at 14-15 but they most likely are not paying to proportions the way I am. Just in the last year I've noticed my mandible and brow ridge get far more pronounced, for example.
Honestly, just go look at a sophomore class in high school and then a sophomore class in college. Now, do you really believe that growth for most people ends at ~15? Their is a world's difference in the bone mass and proportions of the two.
Even if you feel like you've stopped vertically-growing, I recommend getting your hands on this to try and maximize horizontal growth.
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Does the spine have growth plates aswell? Will buying estrogen blockers work if only my spine is still growing? Because I'm pretty sure my growth plates in my legs are fused. :(
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Does the spine have growth plates aswell? Will buying estrogen blockers work if only my spine is still growing? Because I'm pretty sure my growth plates in my legs are fused. :(
Nope, hard cartilage forms on the vertebrae that stops continued elongation of the torso. Growth in the torso doesn't really work similar to how it does in the legs.
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This is something I was worried about as well, as I plan on getting LL and thus want as wide of a frame as possible to have better proportions. The answer is, yes! But the clavicle is usually ~80% done with growing by the age of 14. Still, it seems to continue to grow until your early 20's, and that's why, this thread is titled, "if you're under 20!"
Because growth really probably does not stop until you are ~25 at the latest. Other people will argue that it stops much earlier, and that they stopped growing entirely at 14-15 but they most likely are not paying to proportions the way I am. Just in the last year I've noticed my mandible and brow ridge get far more pronounced, for example.
Honestly, just go look at a sophomore class in high school and then a sophomore class in college. Now, do you really believe that growth for most people ends at ~15? Their is a world's difference in the bone mass and proportions of the two.
Even if you feel like you've stopped vertically-growing, I recommend getting your hands on this to try and maximize horizontal growth.
Did you grow any since you've been taking this substance, and how old are you?
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Nope, hard cartilage forms on the vertebrae that stops continued elongation of the torso. Growth in the torso doesn't really work similar to how it does in the legs.
ahh thanks, then I wont bother buying estrogen blockers. Do you know if there is anything that could help spinal growth?
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ahh thanks, then I wont bother buying estrogen blockers. Do you know if there is anything that could help spinal growth?
Glucosamine will help with spinal cartilage meaning it could help retain your morning height and it can also prevent it from deteriorating as you get older (stopping you from getting shorter).
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Glucosamine will help with spinal cartilage meaning it could help retain your morning height and it can also prevent it from deteriorating as you get older (stopping you from getting shorter).
Yeah thanks, just read about gluccosamine, seems pretty interesting and definetly something I'd give a try in the future. But I mean more of something that can help increase your spine growth during puberty. I've been surfing around but can't seem to find anything, maybe you know something or have a link to some study.
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i have seen guys in my school they had a growth spurt and few of them at 15 were about 6 ft 3 or so i was like omg how tall they supposed to be in a nearest future ,and right now all of them 18-19 y.o. and same height so i think mostly guys reach their final height by 15-16
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i have seen guys in my school they had a growth spurt and few of them at 15 were about 6 ft 3 or so i was like omg how tall they supposed to be in a nearest future ,and right now all of them 18-19 y.o. and same height so i think mostly guys reach their final height by 15-16
It depends on a person. Some people hit their final height around 15yo but some still grow later on.
One of my classmates from basic school was one of the shortest guys but recently i met him at the bus stop and he grew from around 5'5 to 5'9.
I basically stopped growing when i was 12yo but im just 19yo right now so who knows what happens.
People are different and their "growing schedule" depends on their genetics.
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Okay guys, so I'm back in school and really trying to max my nutrition and sleep again. I've felt pains here and there again, so everything's looking good! I haven't measured myself in a while, BUT, my mom did tell me "wow you look taller" out of nowhere, also I no longer fit into a lot of my sweaters that have previously fit me for the past 3 years (where I did not grow at all).
Aside from height, I'm curious in how taking HGH will help my clavicle: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21315303
As you can see, on average, clavicles don't usually close till ~22. Now I know, they're normally 80% grown by 12-14 or something. But people like Jeff Seid come to mind. He's been steroiding/HGH/estro-blocking since 14-15 presumably and that dude is REALLY wide. You can see photos of him at ~14 and his clavicle looks very average.
Lol but as a counterpoint, 20% is still significant. I see people on here downplaying percentages all the time. For example, I think I saw Sweden linking to a study where it showed that people have roughly 70% similar bone lengths or something. He posted that to prove that everyone is "proportional" (which I completely disagree with, very, very much).
But 20% possible growth is A LOT (especially clavicle). Even in height, 20% would be the difference between me being 5'4 and 6'3. So hopefully my clavicle will grow a bit wider than it would have without the HGH.
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Oh yeah, and I'm on letrozole .75mg/e3d now. Noticing no side-effects at all. It's a stupid/potentially dangerous/much riskier idea than just taking MK-677 but desperate times call for desperate measures.
Also, I'm taking Vitamin K2 to support bone growth and strength.
If anyone has any supplement / dietary suggestions feel free to post here. I'm all ears.
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Jeff Seid isn't really that wide. He has narrow hips and most of the shots of him his muscles are enhanced. He's also on tons of gear, when he's not flexing his lats his clavicles width looks average. People who have small frames and go on steroids most of the time end up looking worse because so much muscle on a small frame looks bad. I have a friend who's got a decent amount of muscle and broad shoulders and looks better than someone I know who trains religiously on roids and has a small frame. I don't even care if my shoulders are broad, I just want them to be normal width at least, as I sure you do too. HGH really only would of benefited us if we started at age 12-13. Legit the only thing we can do is clavicle lengthening. We shouldn't have to deal with the effects of steroids just to get wider clavicles, not even worth it. I plan on getting more info about Leif Rogers preforming the surgery, so many kids break their collarbones/clavicles in high school football in worse ways and end up fine. (My brother did also). I don't know why people obsess about leg to torso ratio, shoulder width is very underrated. If we can get our clavicles widened by 1 inch which that doctor Leif Rogers is advertising, that's 2.5 cm on each side. Your chest can go from 40 to 45 cm, that's a significant difference in shoulder width, probably could even lengthen 3 cm on each side which would be from 40 to 46. I'm 5'7 so I'm not tall by any means, I don't even want to get LL unless I can get my shoulders widened cause I will look worse and will just be okay with that.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BkFD7WwCUAAUkyP.jpg -Pic of Jeff Seid when he isn't flexing his lats and how he looks in person. Dude's clavicles look the same length as mine lol. HGH is also so expensive and were past the point of it really benefiting us.
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Wow! Maybe I want to use it too, but is there the same side effects like hgh? Because i dont want get a bigger nose for an example.
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^ No side effects, your nose never actually stops growing and HGH would have negligible effects on nose growth anyway.
Update: I've officially reached the 1/2 inch mark in the past 3 months. I've noticed I'm taller than a friends, one has commented on it, and I've grown out of a few tight-fitting clothes. Unbelievable. I can't believe my growth paused between 15-18. I wonder if it was poor sleeping habits, not eating properly, etc.. This study: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1054139X02003427 shows that teen girls who begin to eat properly after having anorexia can catch up on their regular growth curve. However, if their growth plates fused, they never would've "caught up" and grown. I wasn't anorexic, I ate (just not very much), maybe 700-900 calories/day sometime (I was very depressed as an upperclassmen and figured I had stopped growing, oh if only I would've known lol). I was significantly underweight. I mean, maybe 100-105 lbs at 5'3-5'4? I weigh 130 now, at 5'4.5 (lol) and I still look pretty thin. I've put on 15 lbs in the past 3 months, which I'd like to attribute to the raging hunger MK-677 causes (and possibly even that 1/2 inch of bone weight).
Before taking MK-677, I never grew more than an inch a year. I eagerly awaited a growth spurt every year since I was 12-13 and started noticing friends having them. I would constantly search the internet to try and figure out what was wrong with me (and ended up here).
Here has been my growth pattern:
12-13 - 5'2
13-14 - 5'3
14-15 - 5'3 (this is the age where all my friends who I had stayed similar heights with shot up to 6' lol)
15 - 16 - 5'4
16 - 17 - 5'4
17 - 18 - 5'....4.5?
I probably averaged 4-5 hours of sleep from 14-16. I'm not saying it was responsible for my ridiculously slow amount of growth, but sleep is when you release the most HGH and the fact that I have been growing at such a fking slow rate I mean I can't really imagine anything else. Seriously, who tf grew as slow as I did throughout puberty lmao? I've never seen a similar growth pattern. I mean everyone I've ever known has had at least a year where they grew 2 inches in their lives, but I've never had one (well, except for maybe my early childhood).
For reference, I'm also definitely Tanner stage 4+ of puberty. Voice deepened/pubic hair at 13-14, 15-16 is when I started getting lower stomach hair, started shaving. At 16 I started getting really bad acne, had tiny speckles of armpit hair, starts maybe like one hair or two. At 17 armpit hair remained pretty minor, acne continued, and 18 now I can actually see it while standing ~5 ft away from the mirror, also started growing sideburns a few months ago and while I used to shave every few weeks last year I'm starting to have to do it once a week now.
I guess in some ways I've been a "late bloomer" and in other ways I've been an "early bloomer." I really don't know. I can't imagine my bone age is much younger than 17 at most.
With that said, desperate times call for desperate measures. I've spent a LOT of time over the past few weeks skimming Pubmed, NaturalHeightGrowth, and Steroidology.
While MK-677 does increase HGH and IGF-1, it does so in a "leak" manner. This is not how growth hormone normally happens during puberty (especially during growth spurts) instead, growth hormone is released every 3-5 hours at a time in "pulses." With MK-677 I'm probably only getting ~3-4IU/day.
In order to simulate what would be the natural "pulses" of growth hormone that occur in a day, I will now be taking:
- CJC-1295 (w/o DAC) 100MCG 3x (every 3-5 hours empty stomach) ed
- Hexarelin 100MCG 3x (every 3-5 hours empty stomach) ed
(the below are not necessary but I am trying EVERYTHING)
- Melatonin 5mg everynight
- Vitamin K2 500mcg ed
- SAM-e 200mg ed
- Standard Multivitamin ed
After about a month, your body gains a tolerance to Hexarelin and it's effectiveness is decreased. So lots of bodybuilders / steroiders will then cycle GHRP-2 / 100MCG 3x daily as a replacement for a month and then go back.
All this stuff is pretty expensive and quite a hassle. If you are already taking Ibutamoren, are afraid of needles or maybe can't afford the $60+ a month to spend on peptides stay the course. But if you have the money and time to read up on this stuff yourself, look into the stack I posted.
So yeah, it's pretty crazy that I've gained 1/2 in the past 3 months. I've felt a lot of leg pain and also now starting to feel some arm pain. What's odd about my leg pain is that I feel it usually in my lower femurs, almost always before going to sleep, and I've noticed that some nights it'll be both, but usually most times it cycles between my left and right legs. I don't know if I'm in a growth "spurt", but I hope, this is certainly the fastest I've ever grown.
My bac water and needles should be getting here next week. Having to deal with peptides is such a mess, finding a reliable source, getting needles, bac water, and also injecting yourself 3x a day on an empty stomach lol.. With CJC-129 no dad and Hex/GHRP I think I can get 2.5 inches instead of 1.5 I currently predict with Ibutamoren. They're also much more expensive (probably $60-80 a month not including supplies) but hey, as I said earlier, desperate times call for desperate measures.
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you reached you full growth, ghrpc, cjc, hgh, non of those will work anymore.
http://www.childgrowthfoundation.org/CMS/FILES/Puberty_and_the_Tanner_Stages.pdf
All those miracle substances will not work its just very clever marketing, same with hanging etc.
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you reached you full growth, ghrpc, cjc, hgh, non of those will work anymore.
http://www.childgrowthfoundation.org/CMS/FILES/Puberty_and_the_Tanner_Stages.pdf
All those miracle substances will not work its just very clever marketing, same with hanging etc.
Please check back in a year and proceed to crap your pants. Most males in my family came back 2 inches or so taller from the military and much wider. lol I feel like you didn't even read any of this and just felt immediate rage at the fact that it's far too late for you and quickly cited this irrelevant study.
I don't think I'll grow more than 2 inches but that's better than having to do quadrilateral lengthening. Anything counts.
Also, that paper is very accurate and 100% relevant to every male who has ever existed. I definitely remember growing 10cm/year when I was 15 lol.
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Keep us updated! Injecting 3x a day it's a real pain, but maybe you'll get taller with it.
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Please check back in a year and proceed to crap your pants. Most males in my family came back 2 inches or so taller from the military and much wider. lol I feel like you didn't even read any of this and just felt immediate rage at the fact that it's far too late for you and quickly cited this irrelevant study.
I don't think I'll grow more than 2 inches but that's better than having to do quadrilateral lengthening. Anything counts.
Also, that paper is very accurate and 100% relevant to every male who has ever existed. I definitely remember growing 10cm/year when I was 15 lol.
Keep dreaming. All those stories from family and friends are just exaggerated and without any evidence. So its easy to thing its a real thing. There are tons of medical articles about idiopathic short stature etc and there is no evidence that anyone got taller after certain stage of puberty. Keep wasting your money :)
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I'm pretty sure this is the Letrozole, but damn do I feel hormonal. Hopefully this isn't TMI, but I'm pretty sure my dck's grown at least half an inch, it looks very different from what it used to look like (the shape just looks much "longer" now). Also, my libido is through the roof and I am getting that testosterone-y feeling you get in your arms and armpits I get whenever I used to go camping or nofap for a few weeks.
I haven't been using the Letrozole consistently, but I've noticed that when I'm off it I'm kind of mopey/paranoid but when I go back on it I feel normal again. As I mentioned earlier I spent like all of last year depressed and eating McDonalds everyday with an almost non-existent sxx drive, and things couldn't be more different now. I feel incredible, I guess because I am eating lots of greens and calories everyday.
It's odd though, because most stories I've read online of Letrozole side-effects have been NEGATIVE. Like ohhh Letrozole made me completely depressed and my dck stopped working and libido became non-existent. Maybe it's because I've only been taking 0.3mg-0.5mg dosages, but overall I've noticed the EXACT opposite.
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Please check back in a year and proceed to crap your pants. Most males in my family came back 2 inches or so taller from the military and much wider. lol I feel like you didn't even read any of this and just felt immediate rage at the fact that it's far too late for you and quickly cited this irrelevant study.
I don't think I'll grow more than 2 inches but that's better than having to do quadrilateral lengthening. Anything counts.
Also, that paper is very accurate and 100% relevant to every male who has ever existed. I definitely remember growing 10cm/year when I was 15 lol.
At this rate you will be 7 feet tall by next year! Good luck and I hope to see some good results beyond placebo and that you have managed to catch it just in time but of course I am skeptical (Hope to be proven wrong). Please be very careful with your dosage.
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Hey everyone!
Alright so I injected for the first time today. Can't believe I put those massice needles in me LOL. What has my life come to?! Anyways, I didn't really feel any different. Haven't really felt growing pains in maybe a week now but to be fair I've been sleeping like absolute garbage due to studying for midterms and just keeping up with class.
Also, mostly wanted to come on here to say, I am quitting Letrozole lol. I can't take it. I'm pretty sure that crap was making me ca-raaaaaaaaaaazy. I normally consider myself a pretty happy floaty light headed person, but on Letrozole I felt so so hopeless and depressed. I thought nah, there's no way this tiny doseage amount, a few drops, will have any effect on my mood. But it REALLY did. I'm just so sick of being so mad and hopeless all the time. You probably don't think it will affect your mood, but trust me it really does, you won't be able to escape your own brain chemistry. After trying it for dosing one week and dosing two weeks off it's a night and day difference. And I'm staying OFF.
Thankfully, Vitamin K2 has had the exact opposite effect for me. Usually after taking some and having a good wholesome meal I feel really rejuvenated and great for the rest of the day.
Also, I weigh 135 now and I'm starting to look quite fat. I fell for the "bulk and lift" meme. What a mistake. I'm probably going to start running before this gets too out of hand lol. MK-677 really does that to your appetite. On days I don't take it, I can probably eat ~40-50% as much as on the days that I do.
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Good choice on stopping the usage of Letrozole. It isn't tolerated well by many and being an anti-breast cancer drug I would be worried about long term side effects of usage when you don't have breast cancer. Good to hear you are feeling better, you're young, you will drop the weight in no time.
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Thanks for the update.
You're saying that you start looking quite fat, I believe it's because of MK?
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Are you sure the extra weight you put on isn't just water?
Anyways, just got my Mk-667 in the mail today after over a month of waiting. I am 17.5 years old and ~167 cm tall. Very excited to see the effects it will have on me, if any lol.
Do you take the dosage before bed? Because that's when I suppose it will have the best effect since you grow during your sleep, plus you wont feel as hungry and overeat since you're asleep.
Oh and also how much do you take per dosage? I bought mine in capsuleform and each capsule contains 10mg.
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From what i've read, you'll have water retention from MK-677. Some report mild, others significant retention, it will also depend on your diet, but you'll retain water with it anyway.
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Hey I'm really happy for you man, this is really good news! How much have you grown so far?
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Hi everyone. I'm getting ever so closer to being 5'5 which isn't much but it's just good to see that I'm still growing.
As for the MK-677: yeah it does cause CRAZY water retention. Sorry for not mentioning this earlier. I drink probably ~2.4L of water a day and if I don't take potassium / eat bananas I will be suuuuuuper bloated to the point where it's almost hard to walk around and sit lol. So if you're still taking MK and you want to reduce bloat, make sure you get your potassium!
I don't think the weight gain is 100% water retention because I've noticed on dehydrated days and days when I have no bloat I'm still ~130+ lol. But still, I'm sure it's a factor.
For RichTheGreat:
I'm following the study's protocol where they took the Mk-677 at 8am. Lots of growth hormone is already released while you're sleeping, so I'm not too sure if taking it before sleep is ideal for "max gains."
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Sorry to bombard you with questions but I recently read that some people on some forum recommended to take the mk667 dosage 5 days every week with 2 days off for best effect. They don't take mk667 for the same reason we do though (growing).
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Is There a alternative to letrozole because i read it creates acne
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Sorry to bombard you with questions but I recently read that some people on some forum recommended to take the mk667 dosage 5 days every week with 2 days off for best effect. They don't take mk667 for the same reason we do though (growing).
Anti-aging people? Yeah they may take less frequent doses. Like I said in my OP a lot of people just take HGH to maintain good skin/nails/hair, which is a good idea. If you're taking it for that reason you won't need it that often.
Is There a alternative to letrozole because i read it creates acne
Just look into other aromatose inhibitors. Letrozole is the absolute strongest, I would suggest staying away from it now after experiencing it.
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Alright boys I'm back from spring spring break. Injecting 3x a day and boy do I feel good. Rather odd but every time I poke myself in the stomach I feel about euphoric lol. It's a bit creepy at first, seeing the needle go inside of you, but I got used to it fast and injecting is just a regular daily routine now like brushing your teeth.
Alright, so I told you guys on MK677 I was eating like a truck and I got up to ~135 (Crazy, cause I had never been able to really gain weight before). I was starting to get some pudge too. So I'm sprinting 20 minutes a day and I'm already down to ~131, I'm starting to see a major difference in my face already (was getting chubby face, screw dat). If you're taking any HGH and eating like I was, you're probably gonna want to exercise since you're going to most likely gain weight, or just sprint (it also releases HGH).
At this point I'm now a solid 5'5 and maybe slightly more. I've had my dad comment on my height now the other day he was like "Wow you're catching up to me?" which means a lot to me. Because like a lot of you guys I'm shorter than my dad and yeah it sucks, hopefully I pass him up.
On Hexarelin / CJC129 (no DAC) 3x a day:
- This stuff is NO joke. MK-677 feels like child's play in comparison. It kind of gave me a dull hunger over the course of the next 2 hours. You guys, I kid you not, after taking 100mcg ea of Hex/CJC I can probably eat a whole fridge. It's advised to inject on an empty stomach, and then eat 35 minutes after, and by the time those 35 minutes roll around... I'm practically fooking sweating for food. I made the big mistake of injecting before class the other day, and I actually had to run outside to the vending machine and wasted like $6 on snacks because my stomach felt like it was going to kill me. Seriously. In just 10-15 minutes this stuff hits you HARD to go get food.
- Leg pain is back, and pretty consistent. Once again, it always happens 2-3 hours before going to bed. I've thought of it maybe being the fact that I'm walking around so much, but it happens on the days where I barely leave my dorm as well. I haven't felt it like this since December. I don't know if it's how much I'm eating, or maybe some of the MK-677 I received after my winter batch just wasn't as strong. Apparently, finding a good potent MK-677 source is hard.
- When I was on Spring break, for a few days I did not have access to my Hex/CJC/Vitamins. Going to sound kind of ridiculous, but without them I felt kind of anxious. I swear, Vitamin K2 has a real impact on my mood and can completely turn my day around. Also, I immediately broke out in acne and noticed a sharp decrease in skin quality. I took for granted how good and smooth my skin looked on HGH. I looked a LOT older, my skin looked a lot more dry.
- Melatonin is really great. Before it wasn't too uncommon for me to just take 2-3 hours laying in bed contemplating my life or whatever. Which really pissed me off, cause there goes 2-3 hours of glorious HGH/growth sleep. Man it really pisses me off that my room mate is 6'1 (significantly taller than his 5'4, 5'8 parents) and the dude falls asleep the same time as I do (10-11, (falls asleep instantly too) and wakes up 3-4 hours after me (12-1). Every. Single. Day. I couldn't even sleep that much if I wanted to. And sleep is when you release the most HGH naturally. I know this place is really skeptical on stunting or promoting growth, because a lot of studies out there haven't really conclusively proven much yet, but I will say this: The other day I saw some photos of separated twins, nearly every twin was the same height, but one out of 8 of the pairs, one twin was around ~2-3 inches shorter than the other. They were both from China. Maybe one twin grew up rurally on a poor/starvation diet? Who knows, but honestly, I feel like I could've missed out on those 2-3 inches by not sleeping and by not eating. I seriously did not ever eat as much as I needed to as a kid or as a young teen. I was way too hyper to sit down and finish all my food. Damn what kind of tangent am I going off on, anyway, I highly highly recommend Melatonin to anyone hear trying to maximize their sleep, in 20 minutes it gives me a nice sleepy feeling and then I fall asleep within ~5 minutes.
Conclusion: SLEEP, EAT, TAKE YOUR VITAMINS AND HGH. GOOD LUCK EVERYONE!
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Hi CaptainAmerica, I've just quickly scanned the thread - did you actually say how old you were? You mention 'catching up' to your father, how tall are your parents?
Also, no, you didn't stunt your growth significantly - so many people here try to blame their lack of height on they didn't eat enough, exercise, smoking etc. as a reason for their height but honestly, it's because of your genetic make up. You would have needed to literally be starved leading to medical malnutrition, this doesn't come from what people in the Western world perceive as 'not eating enough' and the body is incredible at restoring that growth when conditions improve - if what you say were true, there would be no lanky teenagers.
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I was talking to a guy doing a PhD in bone development who basically said the same thing. He said if you were really unhealthy you might miss out on a little off your maximum height potential (i.e. an inch or two), and if you were anorexic and untreated or malnourished you might miss out on several inches, but overall anything within the "normal" range of what most kids do wouldn't make you lose out on much- maybe a few mm if that.
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^ Yes, that's my school of thought also. Adam Lanza, the Sandy Hook shooter was anorexic at 112 lbs and grew to 6 feet. I don't believe he would have been 6'5'' or something with better nutrition. Supoptimal nutrition in the Western world can affect you a bit, but not drastically by any means. Still, it's pretty amazing that 1 inch can be achieved so late with all these substances.
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@CaptainAmerica thank you so much for posting this log, most people doing this kind of experiments don't even bother.
I hope you're still going strong with your gains and that you keep us updated
Cheers
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Nope, hard cartilage forms on the vertebrae that stops continued elongation of the torso. Growth in the torso doesn't really work similar to how it does in the legs.
So you only grow in legs with letrozole? What about the hex, cjc Stack ?
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Hey guys, I recently turned 19 but I'm still blasting HGH like no tomorrow. Now that I'm taller than my dad, (who has always been 5'5) I feel like I'm reaching my end. I think I've grown ~.5cm in the past 2 months, but that could honestly just be better posture from less computer usage & exercising. Overall, I'm starting to become more active, improving my flexibility, running, doing yoga, etc.. Even if I do grow another inch, LL is unfortunately inevitable for me. But I'll continue blasting HGH in hopes that I get even a few mm more of clavicle length than I would have genetically (just to look more balanced after LL).
Good luck to everyone, if you have any questions feel free to PM me. Like I said, under 20 for clavicle & torso development, femurs are supposed to fuse at 17-18, if you're 18+ you're going to want to take at least 7IU/minimum daily for any chance at growth at all, if you're younger (ideally 14 or 15), start at 4-5IU and see what happens.
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It's not my thread but you can also use oxandralone (Anavar). I got it from my doctor and i grew an inch.
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It's not my thread but you can also use oxandralone (Anavar). I got it from my doctor and i grew an inch.
How old were you?
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I'm 17 and use it for 2 months now.
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I'm 17 and use it for 2 months now.
Lucky I should have taken steroids when I was 17 and researching leg lengthening. I would have avoided this dangerous surgery. I even had them in my apartment but was too much of a sissy to take them. Now I realize that all football players have been using steroids since 16 years old. fk man I really missed out what a shame.
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Has anyone experience with HGH? I want to use HGH but pharma is very expensive would another HGH also do the job?
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Won't be replying to PM's anymore, in final I started at 5'4 1/2 and ended at 5'5 3/4. I stopped feeling growing pains or really any weird sensations in my legs around 6-7 months ago, but I've continued taking peptides and MK-677. Whether it was the HGH and peptides that made me grow 1 inch and a half or not, who knows. As I've said, in graduation photos and returning photos of 3 family members who went off to military, it's pretty obvious that they all grew at least 2 inches and put on 40lbs of weight. I've experienced no negative side effects as a result of my experimentation, although who knows, I might die of a heart attack at 40 or something random like that lol.
If you look at the male growth chart for 2-20 years old, you'll notice that even up to 19 years old, even the shortest males have the smallest of incline, but still an incline, I mean maybe from 18-19 they on average gain .5cm or something ridiculous like that (the incline for the taller males is noticeably larger). I think if growth completely halts at 15-16, then you would probably see a flat plateau after 16, but still, even up to age 20 there is the smallest indication of growth.
So I guess I'll never know if it was all the BS I was doing or just natural growth, but either way I don't care. I'm very, very satisfied with my results. I can probably get by on doing one LL now and being 5'7.5 rather than doing both segments and losing another 2 years of mobility and another $100k.
Best of luck to everyone. Remember to do and try everything. Sleep, eat, sprint etc.. while you still can. There are a few growth plates that don't close completely until 20-22, such as femoral, clavicle, etc and there's no reason you shouldn't be able to squeeze out at the very least half an inch from these. Everything counts when you're going to spend $100k and a year in bed to grow 2 inches.
Also, TMI don't continue but when I was 17 my dck was shorter than my iPhone 6 Plus and now at 19 almost 20 it's significantly longer. Probably about 6.7 inches or so. I don't know if it was all of this experimentation with hormones or just late growth, which would be odd since I'm pretty sure I started having pubic hair at like 15. From what I've thought, the dck was the first thing to start growing and first thing to stop during puberty, so I'm really surprised at the fact that I gained any length at all after 17 years old.
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Also something interesting, I've met two students studying here in America from China who took HGH as children. One is 5'9 and the other is 6'. Apparently it's really popular in China among the wealthy to give your kids HGH. I don't know how tall their parents are, but they seem significantly taller to me than most other asian students. I've only personally heard of one case of it being done here in America all my life, and that was a 5'3 15 year old taking HGH to end up at 5'10.
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The only person I knew who did HGH treatment throughout his youth also ended up really tall compared to his parents, but I realize this is anecdotal evidence.
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Won't be replying to PM's anymore, in final I started at 5'4 1/2 and ended at 5'5 3/4. I stopped feeling growing pains or really any weird sensations in my legs around 6-7 months ago, but I've continued taking peptides and MK-677. Whether it was the HGH and peptides that made me grow 1 inch and a half or not, who knows. As I've said, in graduation photos and returning photos of 3 family members who went off to military, it's pretty obvious that they all grew at least 2 inches and put on 40lbs of weight. I've experienced no negative side effects as a result of my experimentation, although who knows, I might die of a heart attack at 40 or something random like that lol.
If you look at the male growth chart for 2-20 years old, you'll notice that even up to 19 years old, even the shortest males have the smallest of incline, but still an incline, I mean maybe from 18-19 they on average gain .5cm or something ridiculous like that (the incline for the taller males is noticeably larger). I think if growth completely halts at 15-16, then you would probably see a flat plateau after 16, but still, even up to age 20 there is the smallest indication of growth.
So I guess I'll never know if it was all the BS I was doing or just natural growth, but either way I don't care. I'm very, very satisfied with my results. I can probably get by on doing one LL now and being 5'7.5 rather than doing both segments and losing another 2 years of mobility and another $100k.
Best of luck to everyone. Remember to do and try everything. Sleep, eat, sprint etc.. while you still can. There are a few growth plates that don't close completely until 20-22, such as femoral, clavicle, etc and there's no reason you shouldn't be able to squeeze out at the very least half an inch from these. Everything counts when you're going to spend $100k and a year in bed to grow 2 inches.
Also, TMI don't continue but when I was 17 my dck was shorter than my iPhone 6 Plus and now at 19 almost 20 it's significantly longer. Probably about 6.7 inches or so. I don't know if it was all of this experimentation with hormones or just late growth, which would be odd since I'm pretty sure I started having pubic hair at like 15. From what I've thought, the dck was the first thing to start growing and first thing to stop during puberty, so I'm really surprised at the fact that I gained any length at all after 17 years old.
it will be 2y I'm doing one hour of bike everyday (but at a moderate rythm), sometimes less (30mn) because I'm too tired but at least 1h each 3 days. I will continue
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it will be 2y I'm doing one hour of bike everyday (but at a moderate rythm), sometimes less (30mn) because I'm too tired but at least 1h each 3 days. I will continue
Do you think you've gained any height?
I have very poor posture from lots of computer use, and I rarely do exercise. I wouldn't be surprised if I could gain maybe a quarter inch of height from stretching, exercising, building up my core and correcting my posture. It would ideally be torso height as well, which would be fantastic when it comes time for LL.
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I took 3-4 months of MK-677 since last year. I'm now 18, turning 19 this year. I have grown maybe slightly over 1cm in one year obviously not sure if it is thanks to the mk-677 or not. Basically haven't noticed any growth for 6 months. Maybe I will invest some money into mk-677 and if I'm super lucky squeeze out another cm or so xD.
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Hate to be the bearer or bad news, but do you think stopping the AI stopped your growth? Noticed that you grew the most while on that, and then after you stopped your growth tapered off
It's what doctors do with young girls to stop their height growth. They give them AI and tell them to take for a period of while, then stop. The estrogen gets released all at once when they stop taking, releasing in a closing of the growth plates
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Hate to be the bearer or bad news, but do you think stopping the AI stopped your growth? Noticed that you grew the most while on that, and then after you stopped your growth tapered off
It's what doctors do with young girls to stop their height growth. They give them AI and tell them to take for a period of while, then stop. The estrogen gets released all at once when they stop taking, releasing in a closing of the growth plates
Hey Downey, it's possible. I think my growth plates in my legs were already 90%+ sealed anyway, so I don't think I would've gained significantly more height had I continued taking Letrozole.
What's funny is since my last update I've continued growing despite running out of MK677, and I'm now comfortably over 5'6. There is a lamp post in my hall way, and I could just tap my head on it previously, up until the afternoon when my height shrink would kick in after being awake for 4+ hours. Well now I can touch it well into the night, after being up for over 10 hours. It's been a minuscule amount, probably on par with the average height shrink experienced throughout the day, and I don't know if it's been my legs or torso, but it's funny that I've continued to grow, probably more so than when I was still taking MK-677. I'm sleeping and eating much less as well, really busy with school and I'm probably down to 120lbs. No idea where it came from but it's certainly welcome.
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Always glad to see success stories like this, thanks for the update. Gaining 2 inches is huge
I'm personally doing cjc+hex+igf1 but no mk677 and no estrogen blockers
Lots of naysayers on here but I'd much rather try and have it not work than wonder what if.
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Always glad to see success stories like this, thanks for the update. Gaining 2 inches is huge
I'm personally doing cjc+hex+igf1 but no mk677 and no estrogen blockers
Lots of naysayers on here but I'd much rather try and have it not work than wonder what if.
How old are you?
Naysayers are mostly because most people over 18 can't significantly grow unless they had extremely late puberties, even with any type of HGH. Involving AIs in the (18+ with maybe some plates open) matter, on the other hand, I have no data to be able to discuss with.
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the best advice for someone who is under 20 or in his early 20s to use HGH ,but not cheap fake one from "aliexpress "but European like saizen (from Switzerland)if im not mistaken,its expensive(less expensive than CLL) but it going to work at least ,even if your growth plates are fused ,there good chance to grow taller like 2-4cm(but no more) though improving bone density
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Also, TMI don't continue but when I was 17 my dck was shorter than my iPhone 6 Plus and now at 19 almost 20 it's significantly longer. Probably about 6.7 inches or so. I don't know if it was all of this experimentation with hormones or just late growth, which would be odd since I'm pretty sure I started having pubic hair at like 15. From what I've thought, the dck was the first thing to start growing and first thing to stop during puberty, so I'm really surprised at the fact that I gained any length at all after 17 years old.
Bro you basically were a late bloomer that’s why you grew 2 inches by then.
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REUP. I'm 5'10 and 16 years old. Could i be 6'2?
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REUP. I'm 5'10 and 16 years old. Could i be 6'2?
i think you still can grow easily up to 1-2
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I'm exactly 5'10 and have 180lbs(but of muscles, in Mesomorph and dont practice gym)
Who want help to me to grown naturally, call me in whatsapp or SMS: +19419993831
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I gonna buy MK-667 in 5 days, to boost my height. (i'm 1,78.5m 5'10 and want minimum 6'1, and 16yr)
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If I take it here, will I grow more than normal?
https://www.oficialfarma.com.br/exemestano-25mg-30-capsulas-p5268/
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I wish I knew these methods when I was 15-16yo so I could at least try. It's so weird to think that when I was at this age I literally didn't know my own height, like, it was something I never cared about, it was a nonexistent problem, even though my classmates were mostly taller than me, I never cared about it and then now I have this height dysmorphia at 21 lmao.
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I wish I knew these methods when I was 15-16yo so I could at least try. It's so weird to think that when I was at this age I literally didn't know my own height, like, it was something I never cared about, it was a nonexistent problem, even though my classmates were mostly taller than me, I never cared about it and then now I have this height dysmorphia at 21 lmao.
Sometimes I wonder... When I was 15-16 I must've assumed I'd wind up at least as tall as my old man and hes around 6'1-6'2.
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Sometimes I wonder... When I was 15-16 I must've assumed I'd wind up at least as tall as my old man and hes around 6'1-6'2.
it depends on ur maternal genetics if ur a male. ur mother must be short if ur short i can almost guarantee it.
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Reup.
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Please please pm me where you bough all this stuff id really appreciate it
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SARMS banned from USA.
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How do i consume hexarelin do i drink it or something
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where did you buy your syringe from
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where did you buy your syringe from
Please do more research... You need to keep it refrigerated, reconstitute it with the proper amount of bacteriostatic water, and ensure that you are dosing yourself properly... You need to read up on this topic both formally (scientific literature on HGH, Hexarelin, dosages and responses), and casually (bodybuilder forums, steroids subreddit, watching guys on YT showing how to inject). This information is all easily available and it's something you need to do if you want to take it safely and effectively. You are injecting something foreign into your body you have to have a decent understanding of how it works.
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I understand that i just want some reccomendations to where I should get a syringe from I have already bought hex and plan to buy cjc
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Text me on whatsapp everyone who gonna go on cycle we will talk, may be make group.
+48 696 461 785
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Nice, but i sell my smartphone to buy Melatonin, GABA and IGF-1, call me in facebook.
facebook/dammestm
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also what do you mean injecting it safely there is an unsafe way to inject it?
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You are retarded, you can use Hexarelin powder as cocaine.
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Anyone got any updates? I'm thinking of hopping on HGH but need some advice
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I dont know where to ask this but what is the price and the side effects of igf-1?
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MK-667 increase more IGF-1 than HGH.
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Very interesting man! Unforutanetly I naturally have low estrogen, but recently used letrozole and gained some height at 23....
I'm going to get real HGH and try 5 ius of that, tbh hoping it's more effective than mk 677
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Good story. Why did you stop the hgh?
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But medical specializers commonly agree when the growth plate closes the door to tall also closes.\
Anyway I wish you can succeed
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Any updates?
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Yea, i know its a little late but yea, im a 16 year old male from Netherlands (tallest country in the world) but im Egyptian myself im 5’11 currently and havent grown a bit since i was 15 my mk 677 is coming in tomorrow but they are capsules 10mg so my question is should i take 2 capsules a day of 20mg or just one 10mg. I will be updating if i will be growing in height. I already am the tallest in my family my dad is 5’5 and my mom is 5’3 my older brother of 21 is 5’7 my grandfather on both sides were also short but my grandmother on both sides were very tall sadly i dont have te measures because that wasnt really a thing back then in Egypt i also have a very tall cousin on my father’s side he is 6’7 1/2 every time i look at him i have to look way up i hope i can reach 6’5 so i can look him on the eye. I will be updating soon hope you all are still alive.
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Yea, i know its a little late but yea, im a 16 year old male from Netherlands (tallest country in the world) but im Egyptian myself im 5’11 currently and havent grown a bit since i was 15 my mk 677 is coming in tomorrow but they are capsules 10mg so my question is should i take 2 capsules a day of 20mg or just one 10mg. I will be updating if i will be growing in height. I already am the tallest in my family my dad is 5’5 and my mom is 5’3 my older brother of 21 is 5’7 my grandfather on both sides were also short but my grandmother on both sides were very tall sadly i dont have te measures because that wasnt really a thing back then in Egypt i also have a very tall cousin on my father’s side he is 6’7 1/2 every time i look at him i have to look way up i hope i can reach 6’5 so i can look him on the eye. I will be updating soon hope you all are still alive.
25mg is the typical dose, so take three. 25mg is the maximized point of return per cost, and is the standard dose. As in best effect/per dollar. At your age 50mg is ideal, but is less effect per dollar. I suggest forget about the money and just do as much as you can afford. You can only grow in a short period of time in your life. After 16, the chances of growth are lower and lower each year. Forget about the money.
And as a disclaimer, don't expect too much from mk. It's boost to off levels is significant, but not significant enough to make you grow twice as fast as natural or something like that.
Still worth using, it's not expensive at all unless you're making third world country wages or your parents are cheap and don't give even 20 dollars allowance a week
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25mg is the typical dose, so take three. 25mg is the maximized point of return per cost, and is the standard dose. As in best effect/per dollar. At your age 50mg is ideal, but is less effect per dollar. I suggest forget about the money and just do as much as you can afford. You can only grow in a short period of time in your life. After 16, the chances of growth are lower and lower each year. Forget about the money.
And as a disclaimer, don't expect too much from mk. It's boost to off levels is significant, but not significant enough to make you grow twice as fast as natural or something like that.
Still worth using, it's not expensive at all unless you're making third world country wages or your parents are cheap and don't give even 20 dollars allowance a week
How much should i expect in growth? Like atleast if we are talking minimum?
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Minimum, 0cm, maximum, depends on your growth plates. If you haven't grown in a while like you said, I would say maybe half an inch
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Minimum, 0cm, maximum, depends on your growth plates. If you haven't grown in a while like you said, I would say maybe half an inch
I have a quick question do you happen to know if the mk 677 of the firm Enchanced Athlete is legit theyre pretty known but i never seem to see theyre name mentioned when people talk about MK-677
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I have a quick question do you happen to know if the mk 677 of the firm Enchanced Athlete is legit theyre pretty known but i never seem to see theyre name mentioned when people talk about MK-677
I've used Chemyo.
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How tall are you now? Provide an update on your stature in 2020
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How tall are you now? Provide an update on your stature in 2020
Sadly i cant because of this corona lockdown my supply stopped delivering in my country and Chemyo doesn't either i just have to sit back and wait till the lockdown passes hoping it goes away as soon as possible
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I've used Chemyo.
So have you grown any from mk 677 and if yes how old where u at that moment?
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I wasn’t asking you, I was asking captain America the person who grew
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I know lol I can relate
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Ok guys so here is an update i started MK-667 on 6 nov and started the rest of the cycle 3 dec since it came in later so,
Age: Just turned 17
Height : 181 At the moment
my stack looks like this :
Mk677 - 35mg Everyday
Hexarelin Acetate - 300mcg 150mcg 2x a day
CJC 1295 NoDac - 300mcg 150mcg 2 a day
Anastrozol - 1mg Everyday
Also ~
Melatonin 5mg before sleep
Multivitamin
Vitamin B12
Vitamin D
Calcium
Im also looking to buy Sam-e and L-arginine
Now that I showed u guys my stack here is an update. I measured myself and hour ago and I grew slightly more than 1cm the past month from 180 to 181 its really crazy since i did not believe this would work also i wasn’t eating much at all like sometimes 2 times a day the mk-677 gave me alot of water retention but it never did something for my hunger i did some research and found the effects could be different for every person im gonna discipline myself on eating 3000cals a day also alot of greens and red meat. Sleeping wise the MK-677 and melatonin are miracles im sleeping around 10 hours a day before i only slept like 7. Im gonna start doing yoga and stretches from today on aswell and im gonna exercise from today on at home since the gyms are closed in my country due to this corona im gonna keep u guys updated every other week
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Hey do you have d? I will try everything with you
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I mean u btw
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Ok guys so here is an update i started MK-667 on 6 nov and started the rest of the cycle 3 dec since it came in later so,
Age: Just turned 17
Height : 181 At the moment
my stack looks like this :
Mk677 - 35mg Everyday
Hexarelin Acetate - 300mcg 150mcg 2x a day
CJC 1295 NoDac - 300mcg 150mcg 2 a day
Anastrozol - 1mg Everyday
Also ~
Melatonin 5mg before sleep
Multivitamin
Vitamin B12
Vitamin D
Calcium
Im also looking to buy Sam-e and L-arginine
Now that I showed u guys my stack here is an update. I measured myself and hour ago and I grew slightly more than 1cm the past month from 180 to 181 its really crazy since i did not believe this would work also i wasn’t eating much at all like sometimes 2 times a day the mk-677 gave me alot of water retention but it never did something for my hunger i did some research and found the effects could be different for every person im gonna discipline myself on eating 3000cals a day also alot of greens and red meat. Sleeping wise the MK-677 and melatonin are miracles im sleeping around 10 hours a day before i only slept like 7. Im gonna start doing yoga and stretches from today on aswell and im gonna exercise from today on at home since the gyms are closed in my country due to this corona im gonna keep u guys updated every other week
Please give me d or smth
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Ok guys im back im pretty having a pretty hard time finding time to post because of my school and corona i have online class which makes it 100x harder to understand my classes. Anyways i have grown again, although not as much ad before i think around 0,5cmish im standing right now at a strong 181,5cm. Before I started this cycle i could not reach my ceiling at all after a while only my middle finger could and only in the morning before i went to bed I couldn’t reach it, now i can touch os easily with my index finger, middle finger and ring finger. I have now switched to GHRP-2 instead of hexarelin and im switching back today but in lowering the use of hexarelin from 300mcg a day to 175mcg. I still feel growth pains daily mostly in my ankles and kneecaps. Also somewhere i feel this could natural growth or that this would come even if i did not use hgh, see when i was 13 170cm and my doctor predicted my height to be around 187-190, i kept growing till my late 14s to 179/180 and then suddenly stopped from my 15th till my 17th buts thats not what got thinking the reason i think it could be natural is because my wingspan is 198cm (6’6ft) when i stand up and lay my next to my body normally it reaches my kneecaps. Ofcourse i know the hgh is having affect but i think there is some natural growth aswell. Anyways that was it i will update u guys soon!
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Ok guys im back im pretty having a pretty hard time finding time to post because of my school and corona i have online class which makes it 100x harder to understand my classes. Anyways i have grown again, although not as much ad before i think around 0,5cmish im standing right now at a strong 181,5cm. Before I started this cycle i could not reach my ceiling at all after a while only my middle finger could and only in the morning before i went to bed I couldn’t reach it, now i can touch os easily with my index finger, middle finger and ring finger. I have now switched to GHRP-2 instead of hexarelin and im switching back today but in lowering the use of hexarelin from 300mcg a day to 175mcg. I still feel growth pains daily mostly in my ankles and kneecaps. Also somewhere i feel this could natural growth or that this would come even if i did not use hgh, see when i was 13 170cm and my doctor predicted my height to be around 187-190, i kept growing till my late 14s to 179/180 and then suddenly stopped from my 15th till my 17th buts thats not what got thinking the reason i think it could be natural is because my wingspan is 198cm (6’6ft) when i stand up and lay my next to my body normally it reaches my kneecaps. Ofcourse i know the hgh is having affect but i think there is some natural growth aswell. Anyways that was it i will update u guys soon!
You sure about that wingspan mate?
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Bro you better remeasure your height at night,which is your real height, if you 181.5 which is 5 ft 11.5 ,then you had grown and im happy for you
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Bro you better remeasure your height at night,which is your real height, if you 181.5 which is 5 ft 11.5 ,then you had grown and im happy for you
Best measurement is mid day.
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Ok guys so i just read whatever i was writing there im sorry it was so bad written i typed it in my 10min break of online class and had to typ it quick without looking at my text anyways what I was saying is that my wingspan is at least 198 cm that at least i think its even more my arms almost cover a whole door (Door Netherlands are 203cm) from ground to just slightly under they’re really long when i just stand normal with my hand straight to my hips it reaches my kneecaps. Thats also one of the reasons i can touch my ceiling if u read my last posts. My hands are also very big for my height I compared it with a friend of mine who is 6’4 and mine slightly tipped over it. I did not notice this till a few friend of mine and my own mother mentioned it. I also have a pretty long neck and torso the only thing that does not add up to my height are my legs. When i was 13 and 3 months i was measured 170cm when i went to renew my passport. one year later at 14 i was standing at 178cm then when i became 15 i only grew 2 cm 180cm and stopped from there. (Maybe some really small not noticeable growth but nothing big after 15). I somehow can believe that my legs have delayed growth but I haven’t really seen proven factual reseach that when you have long arm that you will grow into them. So that leaves me with this question im i growing because of the peptides or is it delayed natural growth and will i ever grow into my arms and hands. Im definitely not a late bloomer i know that for sure i grew a mustache at 13/14 and have a full goattee at 17 right now i also have to shave my sideburns every week and my first wisdom tooth starting to come out. Anyways i still feel pain in my ankles daily and when i wake up i feel tingling sensations in my knees. Im hopefully soon getting an xray from my knees in the Netherlands they’re very difficult with these things since u are insured for medical care and can’t just say I want an x ray there has to be a valid reason. Also the average height in Netherlands is 183cm so believe it or not im below average in my country and thats only the average if you are 180cm You are technically on the short side here (not saying 180cm is short).
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Ok guys so i just read whatever i was writing there im sorry it was so bad written i typed it in my 10min break of online class and had to typ it quick without looking at my text anyways what I was saying is that my wingspan is at least 198 cm that at least i think its even more my arms almost cover a whole door (Door Netherlands are 203cm) from ground to just slightly under they’re really long when i just stand normal with my hand straight to my hips it reaches my kneecaps. Thats also one of the reasons i can touch my ceiling if u read my last posts. My hands are also very big for my height I compared it with a friend of mine who is 6’4 and mine slightly tipped over it. I did not notice this till a few friend of mine and my own mother mentioned it. I also have a pretty long neck and torso the only thing that does not add up to my height are my legs. When i was 13 and 3 months i was measured 170cm when i went to renew my passport. one year later at 14 i was standing at 178cm then when i became 15 i only grew 2 cm 180cm and stopped from there. (Maybe some really small not noticeable growth but nothing big after 15). I somehow can believe that my legs have delayed growth but I haven’t really seen proven factual reseach that when you have long arm that you will grow into them. So that leaves me with this question im i growing because of the peptides or is it delayed natural growth and will i ever grow into my arms and hands. Im definitely not a late bloomer i know that for sure i grew a mustache at 13/14 and have a full goattee at 17 right now i also have to shave my sideburns every week and my first wisdom tooth starting to come out. Anyways i still feel pain in my ankles daily and when i wake up i feel tingling sensations in my knees. Im hopefully soon getting an xray from my knees in the Netherlands they’re very difficult with these things since u are insured for medical care and can’t just say I want an x ray there has to be a valid reason. Also the average height in Netherlands is 183cm so believe it or not im below average in my country and thats only the average if you are 180cm You are technically on the short side here (not saying 180cm is short).
how many guys in your class/school are over 6 ft (183 cm) tall?
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I can understand you ,how you feel being slightly below than average, in my country average height for male is 178 cm but for young guys around 183 so..
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Almost everybody is around 6’1-6’3 of the younger generation ofcourse there are execptions but even the women here are really tall im being towerd daily by them even at work there a girl my age towering me its really crazy im not 100% dutch not even 1% my parents are both Middle Eastern. But the genes these people have is just unbelievable. Although im never thinking of going to surgery to be honest if god wanted it this way than its just that going to be that way. Im only peptides because i really think i somehow stunted my growth i was always predicted to be around 190cm or just slightly under somehow i think somewhere between 14-15 something went wrong for me and im hoping to fix it
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Almost everybody is around 6’1-6’3 of the younger generation ofcourse there are execptions but even the women here are really tall im being towerd daily by them even at work there a girl my age towering me its really crazy im not 100% dutch not even 1% my parents are both Middle Eastern. But the genes these people have is just unbelievable. Although im never thinking of going to surgery to be honest if god wanted it this way than its just that going to be that way. Im only peptides because i really think i somehow stunted my growth i was always predicted to be around 190cm or just slightly under somehow i think somewhere between 14-15 something went wrong for me and im hoping to fix it
What are you smoking lad? I can assure you the average is far from 6ft1 unless you are talking Northern Europe.
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Could you please search up average height Netherlands and look foor urself? And btw we are allowed to smoke here aswell. U have to calculate in that the population of Netherlands os very small a few years ago it was less than 18million
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was 169-170cm at 17,7months took somatropin and now im 177 at 18, i think it will remain open till 20-21. started at 15 UIs then 20 then 30, kept going for 3months straight on it and now im 177cms with alot of muscle gain but recently stopped and gonna try mk677 bc i heard its alot better since its natural hgh and isnt synthetic
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Hey wht supplementa and excersises should i do to make my calvicle grow wider after 20....i googled it and it says technically it's possible to grow the clavicle wider coz clavicle is the only bone the human body which starts it's ossification (maturing) process first and is also the last to complete it..in male typically clavicle ossification starts at 12 and is completed by 25 so yeah there is still some chance for me..wht are ur thoughts on this....and any ideas how to make it wider?
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was 169-170cm at 17,7months took somatropin and now im 177 at 18, i think it will remain open till 20-21. started at 15 UIs then 20 then 30, kept going for 3months straight on it and now im 177cms with alot of muscle gain but recently stopped and gonna try mk677 bc i heard its alot better since its natural hgh and isnt synthetic
Wow that’s really interesting do you by any chance have any facial hair or body hair? And when did you start notice that u was growing? how many months it took for you to see real change in height?
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30 ius a day wouldn’t that cost like 500 dollars a day?
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Wow that’s really interesting do you by any chance have any facial hair or body hair? And when did you start notice that u was growing? how many months it took for you to see real change in height?
i have some facial hair and body but not that much , i noticed some height gain after every month but not that much but there was a noticable height gain after 3 cuz some of my friends joked about me getting taller
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Wow that’s really interesting do you by any chance have any facial hair or body hair? And when did you start notice that u was growing? how many months it took for you to see real change in height?
mk677 is alot better than synthetic hgh and works faster cuz its natural hgh and is alot better in the long run and alot cheaper
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was 169-170cm at 17,7months took somatropin and now im 177 at 18, i think it will remain open till 20-21. started at 15 UIs then 20 then 30, kept going for 3months straight on it and now im 177cms with alot of muscle gain but recently stopped and gonna try mk677 bc i heard its alot better since its natural hgh and isnt synthetic
How was your plates opes at almost 18? Most boys have their plates closed at 16 or rarely 17.
I have never heard anyone gaining 8cm at almost 18 years with hgh or not.
Even at 15 it is hard to gain that much if you don't have hgh deficiency.
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How was your plates opes at almost 18? Most boys have their plates closed at 16 or rarely 17.
I have never heard anyone gaining 8cm at almost 18 years with hgh or not.
Even at 15 it is hard to gain that much if you don't have hgh deficiency.
Most likely a lie.
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How was your plates opes at almost 18? Most boys have their plates closed at 16 or rarely 17.
I have never heard anyone gaining 8cm at almost 18 years with hgh or not.
Even at 15 it is hard to gain that much if you don't have hgh deficiency.
its clearly a bullsh1t , at almost 18 years old had grown 7-8 cm in 5 month!
Even pituitary giants like Robert wadlow didn't have such a dramatic growth spurt
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Most likely a lie.
This.
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How was your plates opes at almost 18? Most boys have their plates closed at 16 or rarely 17.
I have never heard anyone gaining 8cm at almost 18 years with hgh or not.
Even at 15 it is hard to gain that much if you don't have hgh deficiency.
partially open* plates dont fully close till 20-21, ig imma keep growing till 20 cuz i asked my dad when he stopped growing and he told me at 20
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its clearly a bullsh1t , at almost 18 years old had grown 7-8 cm in 5 month!
Even pituitary giants like Robert wadlow didn't have such a dramatic growth spurt
why would i lie. even if i did lie theres some basketball players who gained 2 or 3 inches at 19-18
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This whole thread is bs. HGH for height is taken via injection and is extremely expensive not $85 or whatever the guy mentioned it cost him for 35 doses
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Just had a xray done for my knees 2 days ago i have an appointment with the orthopedic or how you call it next week so then is when i will know for how long my plates are open. I also feel like im gonna grow anyways natural even without these peptides since all my other limbs are also pretty long even my neck is long. Or i just have some crazy genes with long limbs and normal sized legs lol.
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Ok guys so i had my appointment about a week ago he told me that my knees are healthy and have no problems he also told me that my growth plates are open en will close in about a 1 - 1,5 years. I also can say positively im standing at 182 cm in the afternoon i used to be around 180cm in the afternoon. Im also thinking of stopping using peptides i feel the growth is coming natural since i was always predicted to be tall
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Im around 183cm in the morning just under btw I remember when i just started this cycle I actually like to call it journey. When i started this journey i wanted to be 195cm now that i think about it i dont wanna be that height even if i could i would be happy of i reached 184 - 185cm it made me realize that height is not the most important in your life its your own mindset. But enough with the poetry i hope i reach around 185cm with shoes i would be around 188cm and i would be more than tall enough. If i reached it ik be very happy if i dont i will still be happy